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He covers the Bengals. Yeah, like ESPO at fifteen thirty
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Speaker 3 (00:15):
Terryn, who is there? You go give it to me? Sorry,
I'm not going to do this for three hours. My
guy Terry has jumped on the bandwagon.
Speaker 4 (00:23):
He's wearing a Knicks hat.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
Look, I am a long suffering Cincinnati sports fan who
also roots for the New York Knicks. Let me have
my time here, let me have it. I got Tarren
wearing a Knicks hat today.
Speaker 5 (00:39):
Arren?
Speaker 3 (00:39):
Is that a telemarketer calling on the hotline? Yes, let's
go ahead and do this. Hey, what's up. You're on
ESPN fifteen thirty. What's going on?
Speaker 4 (00:49):
Hello?
Speaker 5 (00:49):
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old department?
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Please for what company?
Speaker 5 (01:00):
Hello?
Speaker 3 (01:02):
Okay, Well they were looking for the accounts payable department
and we could not help them. Hey, give it to me,
Tara play the music. Hey, man, we have to talk
about like Hunter Green getting hurt.
Speaker 4 (01:12):
That's no fun.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
We have to talk about Trey Hendrickson not wanting to
play for the Bengals.
Speaker 4 (01:17):
That's no fun.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
We have to talk about fixing college sports, which that's
no fun. So come on, jump on the badwagon. Another
improbable comeback last night. That was a blast. That was
an absolute blast. I promised you years ago if the
Knicks ever started playing in the playoffs on a regular
basis and being like a legit contender, I was going
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to be obnoxious. I deserve a chance to be obnoxious.
I want the Reds to make me obnoxious. The Bengals
have the potential to do that with Hollywood, Joe Burrow
and you know, the Bearcat football team a couple of
years ago made me obnoxious. I'd like for UC basketball
to make me obnoxious. The Knicks right now have me obnoxious.
It's really fun. I love most about this. So I
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think I said this on the show Friday. I don't
have to have a take. It's just, you know, when
they win, I could be happy. When they lose, I could,
you know, get mad and no one cares.
Speaker 4 (02:11):
I like obnoxious mode.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
I like obnoxious mode too. I still do not think
they're going to win the series. I still like looking
at it objectively, I am anticipating a loss. In seven.
I do not bet against teams that I root for.
In fact, last the only thing I did I did
make a wager Derek White over his point total fifteen
and a half and he finished with twenty. But I
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will not bet against the team that I root for,
and that's going to tie into what we're going to
talk about with the Reds here in a second. But
I Vegas still looks at this as basically even money,
and I think the smart money is still on the
Celtics in seven. We will say, I hope I'm wrong.
I do not do the emotional hatch now really quick.
Last night when Hunter Green came out of the game,
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I have never in my life made a wager against
the Cincinnati and I never will. I have bet some
overs and unders, but I won't do it. I don't
bet against the Bengals, the Bearcats. I don't bet against
the Dayton Flyers. I don't bet against the Knicks, and
I don't bet against I can't.
Speaker 4 (03:12):
I don't. I don't want to do that.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
And I have a lot of friends that's that's their
their their jam, right, they'll they'll do an emotional hedge.
So hey, at least if I have to be miserable
because my team lost. I'll get paid, but I will
admit to you last night, when Hunter Green came out
of the game and now the Reds were gonna have
to go through five innings with their bullpen despite being
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up four, I wasn't feeling very good. And I took
a look at the odds at a fan duel and
it was plus six 't eighty for Atlanta to win.
Hunter Green comes out of the game right before the
bottom of the fourth inning with that groin injury, and
I'm going the Red's got to get through the rest
of this game with a bullpen, and the bullpen has
had its moments this year. I think the bullpen has
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been more good than bad this season, and I'm thinking,
okay for nothing on the road against Atlanta Hunter Green
has come out, there might be the similar emotional let
down that we saw in Game one of this series
after Tyler Callahan got hurt. The Reds offense is probably
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done scoring, which they were. Can the bullpen get through
six sittings without relinquishing this for run lead? And I
looked at the odds on fansuel going into the this
In fact, this was going into the fifth because I said,
I checked this after Brent Souter got out of the
fourth inning, and it was Atlanta. Atlanta was at plus
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six pint eighty to win the game. And I felt
compelled because it just it felt like this has not
been a good series in Atlanta to that point, right,
the Tyler Callahan injury, getting one hit, the way they
lost on Tuesday extra innings, the McClain play, Chris Sale
sticking it to him, wasting a good Andrew Avid performance,
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not cashing in with the magic Runner, and the top
of the tenth inning, Hunter Green is now hurt like
it just if it can't go wrong, it has in Atlanta,
and so it just felt like one of those games
they were going to lose. Can you imagine how we
would be feeling today, if, on top of the Hunter
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Green injury, which is a problem and we're gonna talk
about it, on top of the Hunter Green injury, they
lose the game and instead of sitting there at five hundred,
they're now two under, sitting on five consecutive losses and
a great amount of uncertainty regarding the ace of their staff.
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Can you imagine? So I give that bullpen last night
an immense amount of credit. And you know, Suitor and
Barlow weren't great. But I'll tell you what, man, let
me start with my guy Luisey. I that dude's got
that dude's got a big league future. That guy should
have a place on this team permanently. Tony Santien was
good and Amelia Pegan, though he gave up a hit
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with two outs in the ninth inning, closes the door
and the Braves win four or the Reds win four
to three.
Speaker 4 (06:16):
So give credit to the bullpen.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
Obviously a big night for TJ Friedel with the two homers,
Gavin Lux had a couple of hits, Tyler Stevenson drove
in a run. They scored just enough runs early in
the game to build a little bit of a cushion
for the bullpen to get through six innings, and the bullpen,
for the most part, collectively got the job done. In fact,
I don't even give Brent Soonter credit for coming in
in uh with you know, no notice in the fourth inning,
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and he wasn't great in the fifth, But he was
good in the fourth. I'm sorry I screwed that up.
Uh he got through the fourth, he.
Speaker 4 (06:54):
Was not so good in the fifth. Yeah, thank you.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
I badly needed win last night. Badly needed win last night.
I badly needed win last night just because, well, for
a lot of different reasons. They dipped to a game
under five hundred. The Hunter Green injury. The way the
series had unfolded to that point, it would have it
would have felt like devastation after that game. If you're
trying to figure out what's up with Hunter and you're
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dealing with a loss. We'll hear from Terry Francona. We've
got some Hunter Green coming up here in.
Speaker 4 (07:24):
Just a bit.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
The Hunter Green injury, it's a growing and having an
MRI today. I have not seen any reporting from Atlanta
about how he is doing. We do expect to hear
something at some point this afternoon. We are going to
have one of our experts from Orthos since he with
us tomorrow and I'm looking forward to that, and we'll
do that when we have a little bit more information
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and hopefully he's okay. And if he's okay, he still
may have to go on the injury list and maybe
miss a start or two. But that's that's okay. That said,
I think we we've all been dealing with and I'm
sure Terry Francona has been dealing with with this team
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nearly a quarter of the way through the season, a
lot of uncertainty, like we're all trying to figure out, right,
like how good is this team? We're all trying to
figure out how good is this team? We're all trying
to figure out. And when I say we're all, I
mean you and I as Reds fans, but I think also,
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you know Terry Francona himself, maybe to a degree, the
front office trying to figure out how good this team is,
trying to figure out who's gonna play where, trying to
figure out, like even like an Austin Hayes who hopefully
comes back, maybe as soon as tomorrow, what exactly can
they count on from him? Can they count on him
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to stay healthy? When Cees comes back? Is he a
big league player? Is he a starting caliber big league player?
What kind of player is Noel ve Marte?
Speaker 4 (08:59):
Really? When's he going to come back?
Speaker 3 (09:02):
Was his brief spike offensively reflective of a guy who's
poised to have a really good season or was it
merely a flash in the pan? Is Matt mcclan worth
worrying about, like how much should we be focusing in
on his offensive struggles. Is Elie Dela Cruz ready to
make the leap that we're all expecting him to make
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this year? Can they get the production they need from
the outfield? How much sense does it make to hit
the trade market early and try to start picking off
the carcasses of teams that have no chance of winning?
Can they wait to the deadline? Are their solutions in Louisville?
Can they really get by giving regular playing time right
now to Reese Hines and Jacob Herdabies and Blake done?
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There's so much stuff kind of just hanging in the
air right now, so much uncertainty. But the one thing
you knew, the one thing you thought you could count on,
was Hunter Green. Every fifth day you got a stab
pitching for you. I know some give me a hard
time for talking as much about Hunter Green as I do.
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I'll admit to you, man, that is my favorite Red.
I love watching him pitch When he is on his game.
He is a joy to watch. He was a joy
to watch early last night, and over the course of
the last basically calendar year, he has been awesome. Remember
you know we did that thing last year where he
made fifty starts and said, Okay, it's time for him
to kind of get it going here, and he has
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over his last thirty starts his ERA two forty four
opposing hitters batting just one seventy five against him. Hunter
Green is a bona fide staff ace. Hunter Green is
a guy that, if his season continued or continues the
way it's gone so far, is going to get at
least marginal Cy Young consideration.
Speaker 4 (10:46):
You knew that, like that was the one thing.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
And that's not to minimize the contributions of any of
the other pitchers. The Reds have a really good starting
pitching staff, but it's a really good starting pitching staff
in large part because the guy at the top of it.
Hunter Green, is the guy at the top of it. So,
you know, we've got this team that is just trying
to tread water. And I don't give teams credit for
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treading water anymore. I'm tired of doing that. But they're
they're trying to tread water, and they're trying to sift
through injuries and inexperience and guys playing while maybe not
being one hundred percent and trying to figure out a
lot of things on the fly. Terry Francona. You may
think he's doing a great job. You may think he's
doing a terrible job. But whatever it is that the
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dude has had to deal with a lot of uncertainty.
Who should the closer be? Although I think Emilio Pagot
has done a pretty good job. Who should fill out
what role in the bullpen? Do they have enough relievers?
There's enough that we don't know. There's enough that's kind
of just twisting in the wind that it felt good
to know, you know what, that dude they give the
ball to every fifth day, their staff ace is usually
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going to be better than the other guy, and for
the most part, for a year now, he's been better
than the other guy. Now you just add to the
uncertainty Hunter Green's status, his availability, and even to a
large degree, the question about whether he is going to
be able to establish a pattern of good health, because
as much as we all love him, he hasn't been
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able to do that. He may be fine, he may
be totally and completely okay. But number one, I mean,
come on, by now, I would think you're hardened enough
that when you hear the assurances from the manager or
from the organization, itself. Hey, you know what, we think
he's going to be okay. You take that with a
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massive grain of salt. That might not be fair to
Hunter Green, It might not be fair to the Red's
medical staff. It might not be fair to Terry Francona.
But you know, last night I saw a lot of
people go boy, big sire relief, like, I don't know, man,
guy hasn't had the MRI yet, haven't. We seen a
lot of instances where the initial diagnosis is, you know what,
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we think he's going to be okay, and then the
guy hits the injured list and has to miss a
lot of time. Hopefully that's not the case. But more
than anything, this at the very least adds just another
piece of uncertainty to a team that frankly has already
had to deal with way too much. That is not
giving them an excuse. We did a lot of spent
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a lot of time on this show yesterday talking about
the Reds do not get to use injuries as an excuse.
Ah Man teams figure out ways to overcome injuries. Smaller
market teams figure out ways to overcome injuries, and our
central teams figure out ways to overcome injuries, and we
said at the beginning of the season, this team felt incomplete,
which meant it wasn't going to be very good, perhaps
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at withstanding debt issues. That said, you cannot ignore the
fact that over the last six seven weeks we've asked
more questions about the Reds than we have answers. Player
performance questions, player availability questions, player usage questions, trade questions,
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outside acquisition questions, questions about who should be called up,
questions about when a certain player may come back, Questions
about whether a certain player when he comes back, is
how long he's gonna be able to stay healthy. Like
so many questions, the questions have outweighed the answers. Hunter Green, though,
was an answer.
Speaker 4 (14:19):
And now he's also a question. That's not good.
Speaker 3 (14:25):
That's not good, but at least they won last night,
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needs to make a phone call. And I know I'm
in the minority here, but I'm not entirely sure that
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we'll take a phone call or two in just a second. First,
as promised, Reds win the game last night, which is critical,
I mean there are we We talked yesterday about how
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the Reds have had a lot of quote quote tough
losses this year, and the one on Tuesday was one
of them because of you know.
Speaker 4 (17:03):
The one run league going into the ninth inning.
Speaker 3 (17:05):
How it unfolded with the play that Fairchild scores on
in the ninth chance to get a guy in a
the top of the tenth inning to at least take
the lead. They don't do that with their three, four
or five hitters up, and they lose the game the
way they did. Tough loss, wasted starting pitching performance by
Andrew Abbott. And then you know Monday, the game on
Monday where Callahan got hurt, that felt like a tougher
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loss than it might have been. They got one hit,
but you know, that Callahan injury just kind of cast
a pall over everything. Can you imagine blowing a four
to nothing lead on a night where your staff ace
has to leave the game walking off the mound with
the trainer. Fortunately they avoided that. Hunter Green did feel
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good enough last night to talk with reporters after the
four to three Reds win.
Speaker 7 (17:53):
Yeah, it sucks because the momentum was great, all my
stuff felt good. But yeah, and that top of the fourth,
those first too warm up pitches, I just felt my
growing grabs, so just didn't feel like I would be
at my best or be able to really honestly keep
the team in it. Continuing to throw. I have no clue.
I'm not a doctor, so I got to see what
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them eyes like tomorrow. It's here, yeah, for sure, obviously.
I mean I got a lot of power going to
the plate, you know, I definitely feel like I'm very
strong in that area, and a lot of pictures you know,
would probably agree with this. A lot of us trying
and focus on recovery with our upper extremities as opposed
to our lower so being strong there pitching and then
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not always like trying to recover with the legs. Sometimes
it goes past our like focus because we're so focused
on making sure o upper body recovers. So that's probably
the my diagnosis on it. It's it's part of the game,
you know, being at the forefront of the rotation. Obviously,
it's it's tough for me being sober competitive when I'm
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out there, but I'm looking forward to, you know, going
out this next week or so, however long it takes
to get back on the mound, and obviously I'm gonna
put my best foot forward on you know, making sure
I'm putting myself in the best position once I get
back out there. Hopefully I don't have to miss any starts,
you know, But I don't know what the future holes
on this. I gotta see what they are. It looks
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like to want.
Speaker 3 (19:19):
There to go Hunter Green. Last night, I like how
we did that there. That was Hunter's answers. We didn't
have the reporters questions that you often can hear. That
was not just him goffering some sort of soliloquy. It
was a sort of a cut up there of his
answers to the different questions that were asked of him
last night. He came out of the game, and look,
this part of it can't be ignored. And I think
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sometimes there are those among us who confuse a player's
inability to stay healthy with some sort of character flaw.
Hunter Green's a terrific picture and by every account, at
awesome young man. By the way, now at the point
of life that I can refer to people as young men.
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But the reality is he's had a hard time staying healthy.
And that's part of the discussion too. Now he's under
contract for a long time and he's one of the
best bargains in baseball, and things do happen, and players
do get heard, and it's not that there's anyone to blame.
But you know, we've talked about this with a number
of players. Austin Hayes, who when he has been on
the field has been terrific, has had a lot of
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leg injuries in his career. And Matt McClain, who we
all still I think, really like, has dealt with a
lot of injuries in his young career. Hunter Green, if
we are assuming that there is going to be a
stay on the injured list, this is his fourth big
league season. This is his fourth big league season where
there's been some interruption because of injury. You cannot ignore that.
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That doesn't mean the Reds are overpaying Hunter Green. They're
clearly not. That doesn't mean Hunter Green isn't a cornerstone
of what the Reds are doing. He clearly is. That
doesn't mean he's not a terrific pitcher, He clearly is.
It doesn't mean that any of the injuries are related
to each other. I don't believe they are, but there
is You have to add that to the discussion. As
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great as he is, as good as he is, at
least as much as we all love him, he has
that question hanging over him. Can he stay healthy and
get through a full Big League season, and so far
the answer has not been yes, I have to break here,
but I don't want to make people wait quickly. TJ
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on ESPN fifteen thirty, thank you for hanging on.
Speaker 4 (21:32):
How are you?
Speaker 5 (21:33):
Hey?
Speaker 8 (21:33):
I'm good, Hey doing I'm good, Hey. Just curious how
you become Knicks fan. I feel like you and I
are the only two Knicks fans. And if you can
introduce me to someone else in Cincinnati that's a Knicks fan,
I kind of appreciate it. Oh my Wafe is a
Knicks fan by by proxy. Yes, but I'll tell you
how I became a Knicks fan, and I don't know
how you became a Knicks fan. But maybe we'll share
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stories real quick. I just graduated from Eastern Kentucky University
in nineteen ninety six, okay, and I moved to New
York City for graduate school, and immediately I started dating
a lady and she said, okay, for your birthday. This
was in December. I just moved there, and you know,
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in the summer. Manly, she said, for your birthday, I
would take it to next game.
Speaker 5 (22:19):
And I knew that her uncle was immediate mogul.
Speaker 8 (22:22):
And it's really important to the entertainment industry.
Speaker 9 (22:25):
I'm didn't think.
Speaker 8 (22:26):
Much of it. And she got me tickets and we
kept walking down and down and down Madison Square Garden
to a point where they had to check your ID.
I let you in the velvet ropes. Our seats were
four seats down from Spike Lee. I looked behind me.
There's Lee Allen, there's Chris Rock, there's Ben Stiller.
Speaker 4 (22:47):
And my dumb.
Speaker 8 (22:48):
Twenty two year old Kentucky butt has better seats than
news guys. I was truly a low life live in
the high life. And if I don't know, I hate
say this people, but if you've ever said in courtside
that won those games, only like two or three people
actually care about the game. And so that happened to
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be me, Spike Lee, and some unidentified jackass that got
kicked out for drinking too much.
Speaker 5 (23:14):
But it was.
Speaker 8 (23:17):
John Starks threw one into Patrick Ewing at the last second,
and Ewing made this amazing shot to win the game.
And then after the game the highlights. There's a picture.
There was a video of me giving Spike Lee a
high five. It didn't show my face, it was the
back of my head. But my mother knew that it
was the back of my head. That's all I cared about.
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I was like, Mom, just watch this. My back of
the head's going to be on TV. And from then
on out, I've been a diehard Knicks fans. Not just
because they got great seats, well maybe just because they
got great seats, but they're they're just so fun to watch.
But please share how you begin mixim.
Speaker 3 (23:54):
I'm dying, I know, all right, So I get this
question often. So when I was right before I turned
ten years old, we moved from Taylor Mill, Kentucky, right
over the river from Cincinnati, and we moved to we
moved to New Jersey. My dad worked for a company
called Hilltop Research, and they moved him to a city
and New I think we initially lived in New Brunswick
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and then we moved but I think that's where his
company was, And so we moved to New Jersey for
a couple of years, and on Christmas Day nineteen eighty seven,
he somehow obtained tickets to go see the Knicks play
the Detroit Pistons. I had never been to a professional
basketball game. I was a basketball fan, but I didn't
have a team. And I went that night and you know,
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we were Reds fans. We were Bengals fans. I did
gravitate a little bit during that time to the Mets
because they were good when I was a kid, but
we were Reds fans. My dad was a Reds and
Bengals fanning he was a UK basketball fan. I didn't
really care about college basketball at that time, but he
took me to Madison Square Garden to go see the
next play as ten years old, and they lost the game.
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But it was really good Detroit team with all those
guys that would go on to win two titles, Isaiah Thomas,
Dennis Rodman, Bill Lambert, Joe Dumar's, Vinnie Johnson, like a
bunch of really good players. Detroit had a good team
and the Knicks had basically Patrick Ewing and that's it,
although I do know that on that team was former
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UC star Pack Cummings. And the Knicks were terrible that season.
They were absolutely awful. But I became a Rick Patino's
first year he had become the head coach and they
would go on to make I think they would make
the playoffs that year with like a thirty eight win record,
but they weren't very good. They got beat by the
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Pistons and I.
Speaker 4 (25:41):
Was just hooked. We were in the upper deck. Our
seats were terrible.
Speaker 3 (25:44):
I don't know how my dad got him, but he
took me on Christmas Day and I was hooked.
Speaker 4 (25:49):
And then we moved back.
Speaker 3 (25:52):
When I was in high school, and you know, Reds fan,
Bengals fan, Bearcats fan, I thought I would fall out
of love with the Knicks. And then I went to
the University of Dayton and there's a lot of kids
from the eastern part of the US that go to
UD and so I found some Knicks fans there.
Speaker 4 (26:08):
And it was the mid nineties, mid to late nineties.
Speaker 3 (26:10):
The Knicks were always good, always in the playoffs, and
so it never left. I sort of thought, what I
moved out here, I would become a Pacers fan or
a Cavs fan, or yeah, you know, maybe like everybody else,
become a Chicago Bulls fan. And it never happened. So
that's how I became a fan. There aren't many of us.
Most of my adulthood, they have been terrible, so I
haven't enjoyed it all that much. But I became a
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Knicks fan on Christmas Day in nineteen eighty seven. Watching
Rick Patino's Knicks lose to Chuck Daly's Pistons.
Speaker 8 (26:40):
Awesome, thanks man, thanks for sharing.
Speaker 4 (26:41):
I'll talk to you later there you go.
Speaker 3 (26:43):
Thank you very much, and like that that year. That's
also I don't have a lot of time here. That's
also how I became a Bearcat fan because Rick Patino
was the coach of the Knicks. I loved him. And
then we're back in Cincinnati and Rick Patino is co
coaching Kentucky. My dad loved Kentucky and I'm like, well,
(27:04):
wait a minute. And if you remember this, and if
you're a longtime you See or Kentucky fan, you remember this.
Kentucky played at the Shoemaker Center rick Patino's second year,
and my dad was all excited, and I'm like, Dad,
why aren't we Cincinnati fans.
Speaker 4 (27:19):
We like the Rats, we like the Bengals. Like what?
Speaker 3 (27:21):
And he's like, you know, Kentucky, Kentucky can U see
hasn't been good and you know thirty years He's telling
me all about UK basketball and I'm like, that's cool.
And then I remembered Rick Patino was the coach of
Kentucky and so screw him. I'm rooting for Cincinnati, and
Cincinnati's coach was Bob Huggins, a guy that I had
never heard of, and Bob Huggins that night literally sweated
(27:41):
through his suit, and as a thirteen year old.
Speaker 4 (27:44):
Kid, I'm like, that's my guy, that's my team.
Speaker 3 (27:46):
Kentucky won the game ninety five ninety one, and that
night I became hooked on UC basketball because of how
they played that pressing, frenetic energy, which was not that
dissimilar from how the Knicks played under Rick Patino.
Speaker 4 (27:57):
So there you go.
Speaker 3 (27:58):
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to yours for life kelseyshef dot Com Series finale tonight
in Atlanta. It's a night game on getaway day, Reds
and Braves seven to fifteen tonight on a seven hundred
WLW Cincinnati, looking for a second consecutive win. We'll give
(29:10):
the ball to Nick Lodolo against Spencer Schellenbach. Schwellenbach. I
should say easy for me to say, You're starting lineup
tonight against Spencer Schwellenbach.
Speaker 4 (29:22):
The righty TJ.
Speaker 3 (29:23):
Friedel coming off his two hormer night last night, leading
off Matt McClain. That second ELI is short, Gavin Lux
and left field, Spencer Steers at first base, Santiago Espinal
playing third and batting sixth. Tyler Stevenson DHS Tonight, Jose
Travino is catching and Reese Hines in right field. I
have not seen any sort of update from the folks
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in Atlanta on Hunter Green. It is worth pointing out
that Jake Freeley is again not in the lineup tonight.
He missed last night's game with a calf issue, and
that's obviously just adding to the numerous injury issues the
Reds have had just over the last couple of days.
What else do we have? The NBA playoffs continue tonight.
(30:08):
It's a Game two between Golden State and Minnesota and
no Steph Curry.
Speaker 4 (30:11):
Tonight. Warriors have a one nothing lead.
Speaker 3 (30:15):
And in the NHL Stanley Cup Playoffs, Carolina is at Washington.
Carolina leads that series one oh Game two Tonight Game
two between Edmonton and Vegas with the Oilers up.
Speaker 4 (30:26):
One nothing in that one.
Speaker 3 (30:29):
Nineteen oh went and we have a new pope who
is reportedly a Cubs fan, first American born pope. I
I enjoy Twitter. I still call it Twitter. I'm always
gonna call it Twitter. I still enjoy Twitter. I can't
acknowledge that Twitter has its dark side. I've I've still maintained.
(30:53):
I've been on Twitter for sixteen years. In fact, it
might be like sixteen years to the day. I'd have
to go look, but I remember of two thousand and
nine I joined Twitter, my experience is still largely the
same as it was back in the quote innocent days
of Twitter. I don't follow people whose content I don't enjoy.
(31:15):
I pay very little attention to bots and trolls. I
have made a promise to myself to engage very little
with people who don't reveal anything about themselves. And I
use Twitter for self promotion and self amusement and that's it,
and that hasn't changed. There are certain things that are
(31:35):
awesome on Twitter. The Grammy Awards are awesome on Twitter
because the funniest people say the funniest things, and it's great.
I love consuming Reds games on Twitter more than any
other sport. In fact, like Bengals games, I typically don't
even look at Twitter. Usually I'm with somebody. But also
I don't know. There's a lot of people on Twitter
(31:57):
like explaining things to you that I'm not sure they're
qualified to blame. But Twitter during Reds games is a
blast if you follow the right people, because there's a
good mix of humor and overreaction that I find amusing.
If you go on Twitter during a Reds game and
they're winning, you would think the Reds may never lose again.
And if you go on Twitter during a Reds game
(32:19):
and they're losing, you would think they may never win again.
It's a great place to be. I love Twitter during
and I chime in occasionally. Yeah, Like I don't feel
the need to come up with something every time, you know,
a guy gets a hit, But there are people who
do that, and some of the more prominent people who
cover the Reds they have decided that Twitter is not
(32:41):
so much for them anymore and they've gone to Blue
Sky or other outlets. And that's fine, you know whatever,
to each their own. I still get a great amount
of amusement if I'm sitting by myself watching a Reds
game to just see what people are saying, because there's
a lot of people who are smart and insightful, and
there's a lot of people who are smart and who
are funny, and.
Speaker 4 (32:58):
The overall tone is dream either way.
Speaker 3 (33:01):
So the Reds recently haven't been doing that much winning,
and when I say recently, just over the last week
or so, the sky is obviously falling. They win last
night despite Hunter Green getting hurt, and now this team
is on track to win like one hundred and five games.
There are also certain moments that you know Twitter is
going to deliver. And as I was sitting there today
getting ready for the show, watching everybody chime in with
(33:24):
their jokes about the pope also.
Speaker 4 (33:27):
Very very amusing.
Speaker 3 (33:29):
I even retweeted I think it was a Joe fortenball
from ESPN, who's like, man, this place could be assess pool.
But it's days like today, events like today that everybody
has like a good joke to make, And again you
have to follow, like I just I don't follow miserable people.
So if people are being miserable about that.
Speaker 4 (33:45):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (33:46):
I'm pretty good at managing my account. But for like
ninety minutes today, and I got to be honest with
you that the world of religion and Catholicism and who
the Pope could be or should be or will be
is just not something I follow very closely. I did
not have a joke of my own, but for like
a good ninety minutes today, if you were on that platform,
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I promise you you were entertained because the jokes were
coming and they were good. So to those of you
on Twitter who made the election of the Pope entertaining,
thank you. I know a lot of people who have
left Twitter, and that's fine, like whatever, to each their own.
I still, for the most part, really like it. Now.
(34:28):
I joke about, you know, we have an employee here,
Austin was talking about.
Speaker 4 (34:32):
His name is Sean.
Speaker 3 (34:33):
He's not on Twitter, and I'm like, he's not missing anything,
and I'm to a large degree he's really not. But
I Twitter during a Reds game is still a very
fun place to be and again you have to like
go into it in a good mood. I try to
not go to Twitter when I'm in a bad mood,
like if I'm just having a rough day, like all right,
let's focus on something else. But the ninety five percent
(34:53):
of the time I'm in a good mood, I just
Twitter during a Reds game is a blast. And h
you know, if they're if they're down one nothing in
the second inning, you will find accounts that think this
guy is falling, and the same people if they win
the game that night, will tell you the Reds are
maybe never going to lose again. Today on Twitter with
(35:14):
the Pope was a lot of fun. Fourteen away from
four o clock, also watching Paul Pierce walk. It's fine.
I give Paul Pierce, so Paul Pierce. Which show is
he on Arran the Celtics Hall of Famer? Which which
shouty shows? Is he on Undisputed Speak Speak? Is that
the one with Joy Taylor?
Speaker 4 (35:31):
Yes? All right, Paul Pierce DROI Taylor?
Speaker 3 (35:33):
And who's the third guy, Keishawn Johnson former friend of
the show, like Keishawn Johnson. So Paul Pierce said, and
I'm paraphrasing here on that show obviously a Boston Celtics
legend that if the Celtics lost game too.
Speaker 4 (35:48):
He would walk to work today. You have the audio.
Go ahead and play the audio.
Speaker 10 (35:55):
How confident are you.
Speaker 4 (35:59):
Night Celtics lose Game two at all? I promise you to.
I was walking here tomorrow.
Speaker 11 (36:05):
I'm walking here.
Speaker 4 (36:07):
I'm walking here fifteen miles. I'm walking here. I don't
know if this is your friend in my robe, get
your no shoes on, somebody saving bare feet. If the
Celtics lose tonight, oh my god, Oh don't do it.
Speaker 11 (36:22):
I'm walk hall.
Speaker 8 (36:24):
I'm telling you right now, take this series.
Speaker 3 (36:26):
No wait, not no?
Speaker 4 (36:31):
All right? So that's Paul Pierce on which show does it?
Speak on? F S one? And good for him?
Speaker 3 (36:40):
He actually he live, He lives it's like he said,
it was like an eight hour walk, right, Yes?
Speaker 4 (36:44):
Did he walk in his bare feet?
Speaker 12 (36:46):
No? He does have shoes on.
Speaker 3 (36:48):
Okay, he should walking eight hours in your bare feet outside?
No thanks, But he walked over twenty miles to work
today because Boston lost.
Speaker 4 (36:57):
Now did it he didn't?
Speaker 3 (36:58):
He did document this on social media, right, yes, like
he didn't. Like, Okay, I'll walk like two tenths of
a mile and then you know, jump in a car
and then walk the final two tenths of a mile
like he legitimately walked all twenty miles.
Speaker 4 (37:09):
I don't know all.
Speaker 12 (37:10):
Twenty because if you look at his videos, I'm being
drenched in sweat walking that far.
Speaker 4 (37:16):
Sure, do we know how hot it was? I'm not sure,
but steal walking twenty miles.
Speaker 3 (37:23):
So years ago, I'm talking like maybe the late eighties,
there was a Pirates announcer by the name of Jim Rooker.
He may still be a Pirates announcer, a former pitcher,
and he is doing the game Pirates in Phillies in Philadelphia.
I remember this as a little kid, And in the
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top of the first inning the Pirates scored ten runs
in Philadelphia at Veterans stadium and Jim Rooker said, I
don't know if he was the TV guy or radio guy,
but he said during the broadcast that and the Pirates
were awful that year. So he said something to the
effect of, like, you know, basically, even the Pirates can't
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blow this. If they lose after scoring ten runs in
the first inning, I'll walk home to Pittsburgh. Well, as
it turns out, they lost the game something like thirteen
to twelve or something like that, and he ended up
he didn't walk home that night, but it's like three
(38:24):
hundred miles between Philadelphia and Pittsburgh. He ended up, I
think that offseason walking the three hundred miles and did
it for charity. Like he got I don't know if
he got sponsors or whatever, but like he did it
for charity, and I don't know which charity it was.
I could look it up maybe during the break, but
he did it for charity, and I think he ended
up getting people to go with him and he did
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this walk and there was a group that benefited from it,
and he ended up walking from Philadelphia to Pittsburgh and
raised money for good. So when I saw this with
Paul Pierce, I didn't I saw his tweet after the
game last night. Do we know if he did he
just do it? Did he raise any money? Did he
really walk the twenty miles? I'd highly doubt it.
Speaker 12 (39:05):
Okay, not all twenty, but as seven minutes ago that
he said he made it.
Speaker 4 (39:09):
He made it?
Speaker 13 (39:11):
Right?
Speaker 4 (39:12):
When did he start?
Speaker 3 (39:15):
I mean if he says he started like nine hours ago,
then I mean I'm guessing he walked well.
Speaker 12 (39:21):
Going to with ig when he first posted his first video,
that was seven hours ago.
Speaker 4 (39:25):
Seven hours ago, all right, I am.
Speaker 3 (39:27):
If he just walked some of it, he's gonna get
more crap than if he didn't walk any of it.
So if you're gonna do it, go ahead, Paul, suck
it up. Walk the entire seven or eight hours twenty.
Speaker 4 (39:40):
Miles walking, I mean twenty.
Speaker 3 (39:41):
Like we had people that ran the Flying Pig on Sunday,
they ran twenty six point two.
Speaker 4 (39:46):
Paul Pierce can't walk twenty walk to twenty.
Speaker 3 (39:50):
Don't bet against the Knicks. Don't bet against the Knicks.
Don't make guarantees like that. I I've made a lot
of losing bets in my life. I don't know that
I have ever made that sort of proclamation. If this
team loses, I will because man's that's now in this
day and age too, where you know everything can be captured,
everything's recorded. I'm not writing a check I can cash.
(40:11):
So anyway, good for Paul Pierce. I hope he makes
another bet, and I hope he loses again. Ten away
from four o'clock. More on Hunter Green's absence, which we'll
see how long that's for. That's a big, big deal.
And Trey Hendrickson apparently says he has no interest. I
guess he didn't say this, but it's being reported Trey
Hendrickson has no interest in playing under his current deal.
Speaker 4 (40:34):
Trey needs to make a phone call.
Speaker 3 (40:35):
We'll talk about to whom coming up at four oh
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ESPN fifteen thirty. I'm olegar. Thank you for listening today.
That last hour got off the rails. Imagine if the
Knicks win an NBA championship, I will take off work
the next day into a three hour show for my
house for myself. Brennaman and Jones on Baseball coming out
(41:50):
by the way, Brendiman.
Speaker 4 (41:50):
And Jones on Baseball.
Speaker 3 (41:51):
I don't know if it was yesterday or the day before,
but they did a really good segment that.
Speaker 4 (42:00):
Referenced how hard and Marty used to.
Speaker 3 (42:02):
Be on Adam Dunn and I Taren, I might ask
you to go and get that audio because that represents
one of the great toldjusos of my life. Might do
that a little bit later on, because you know what
we need to talk about Adam Dune today. Maybe that's
better than trying to figure out who's going to get
hurt for the Reds tonight, Reds and Braves.
Speaker 4 (42:22):
No, Jake Freley again, there's no.
Speaker 3 (42:24):
I've not seen any update on Hunter Green, who is
going to have an MRI on his groin after coming
out of the game last night. There is Of all
the images so far here in the early portion of
the season, I don't think anything more sobering or more
terrifying than Hunter Green coming off the mound, walking toward
(42:44):
the dugout and then the clubhouse with the with the
the trainer in tow and hopefully he is Okay. Look,
if the Reds are going to get to the postseason
this year, the main reason is going to be the
starting pitching. Let's be honest, Okay, do they need to
hit more yes? Could they use an addition from outside
in the outfield yes. Should they wait to the trade deadline,
(43:06):
of course not, but they probably will, And then maybe
then they still won't even make a trade.
Speaker 4 (43:10):
Who knows.
Speaker 3 (43:11):
But if the Reds get to the postseason end, Let's
also be honest about this, the most likely way that
happens is they win the division. Right, They're probably not
gonna be a Wildcard, if they figure out a way
to outlast the Cubs, who offensively this season have been awesome,
or the Brewers, who, like the Reds, have treaded water.
If the Reds emerge as the last team standing in
(43:33):
the National League Central, the main reason is going to
be the starting pitching. We talk about like, well is
it class half full or class half empty? That the
Reds have treaded water? And I kind of exploded during
quick hits with Tony and Austin. I'm tired of hoping
the Reds can tread water, aren't you?
Speaker 4 (43:53):
I mean, just once, wouldn't it be great to get.
Speaker 3 (43:56):
Through a full season without hoping the Reds could just
tread water. I'm not interested in treading water. I'm interested
in swimming. The Rats have spent more time treading water
than my dog when we go to a lake, Like,
what are we doing? So if the Reds ever do
better than tread water this year, reason number one will
(44:17):
be the starting pitching. Assuming the starting pitching enjoys good health.
If the starting pitching is good enough to lift the
rest of the team to the postseason, Hunter Green is
going to be the primary reason why this does not
minimize the contributions of Nicolodolo, who has certainly had times
(44:38):
this year been terrific. And Andrew Abbott, who I'm a big,
big fan of, and I mean the other night, like
go watch Andrew Rabbit. The other night he was he
had that Atlanta order just tied up in knots. There
wasn't that bat On Tuesday Andrew Abbott versus Marcelo Zuna
were Abbot struck Marcelo Zuna out a good hitter, a
(44:59):
guy who of getting the game winning hit in the
tenth inning and just made a guy like that look foolish.
And Nick Martinez has upside and his pitch better, and
Brady Singer has been a good addition. Let's be honest, though,
if the Reds have a starting staff that's good enough
to carry the Reds to the postseason, it doesn't happen
if Hunter Green's not making twenty seven, twenty eight, twenty
nine starts. I think that's a reasonable take. So if
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you are like me, and for your sake for the
most part, I hope you're not. But if you are
like me, you are metaphorically at least holding your breath
like what comes out of Atlanta as it relates to
Hunter Green, is a big deal, and what comes out
of Hunter Green and the injury.
Speaker 4 (45:39):
Itself is a big deal.
Speaker 3 (45:40):
Because they may say he's fine, he's gonna miss a start, Okay,
we sure, And they may say, look, he's fine, but
we're gonna put him on the injured list. He's gonna
miss two starts. No big deal, Okay, like we are. Unfortunately,
when you watch Hunter Green, you're you're kind of holding
your breath because he gets hurt a lot and he's
(46:00):
that valuable to the team. So this is a big deal.
We've we have sifted through a lot of injuries just
this week. No, no knock on anybody who has gotten hurt,
and apologies to all of them, but noelve Marte and
Tyler Callahan and Jamber Candelario and Christian Incarnassian Strain. Oh
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know how good any of those guys are. I know
Hunter Green's really good. I know how important he is,
and I know how important this team starting pitching is
to their playoff fortunes. So yes, we're kind of holding
our breath. We'll spend more time on Hunter Green a
little bit later. On five point three fifteen thirty is
our phone number. We are six days away from the schedule.
(46:43):
Lease show We're doing it. Smoke Justice next Wednesday night.
Not a ton of Bengals news. I think we have
put uh the the Joe Burrow met Gallathing to bed
for now, which is nice, although I do thank him
for not coming to practice on Tuesday because I got
multiple segments out of it and nobody has explained to
(47:05):
me why Geno Stone had to take a pay cut.
But there is a Trey Hendrickson nugget that I guess
we have to talk about here. ESPN's Jeremy Fowler reports
that there's no update with defensive end Trey Hendrickson's contract situation.
I'm reading this verbatim on ESPN dot com, which is
(47:26):
at a stalemate. My read on the situation, this is
Jeremy Fowler writing. My read on the situation is that
Hendrickson is convicted enough to stay away from the team,
having no interest in playing on his scheduled sixteen million
dollars salary in twenty twenty five. Right now, this is
a waiting game. Now. It's important to point this out
(47:47):
that this is Jeremy writing in the first person. His
read on the situation is Hendrickson has no interest in
playing on his scheduled sixteen million dollar salary in twenty
twenty five. That is probably coming from a place of information.
Jeremy Fowler, ESPN National reporter, very good at what he does,
well sourced. I'm gonna guess he is getting that from
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someone really close to Trey Hendrickson, like his agent. I
would imagine that's not Jeremy Fowler just spitballing, but who knows.
So it's not like Trey Hendrickson made another appearance on
the Pat McAfee show with the other four people, the
guy in the cowboy hat and the other dude and
some other randos, and came on and said, I have
(48:31):
no interest in playing under my sixteen million dollar salary
this year. This is Jeremy Fowler's read on things, and
it may be the correct read. Here's what I would
do if I was Trey Hendrickson. I would stop calling
Jeremy Fowler, and I would stop appearing on the Pat
McAfee show, and I would stop having my agent talk
(48:54):
to reporters, and I would grab my phone and I
would call Joe Burrow and I would ask Joe Burrow, Hey, pal,
mind doing me a solid? Can you start lobbying the
Bengals to pay me what I want. Maybe Joe would
say yes, Maybe Joe would say no. Maybe Joe would
(49:16):
send a right to voicemail. Maybe Joe would text back
and go new number. Who dis I don't know, but
if I was Trey Hendrickson, You're not gonna win a
negotiation through the media with the Cincinnati Bengals. You're not
gonna win by putting a gun to the head of
the Brown and Blackburn family. You're not going to win
(49:39):
by giving the Bengals ultimatums. Many have tried, all have failed.
What you can do is call the person who runs
the show there, which is Joe Burrow, and go, dude,
mind doing me a solid.
Speaker 4 (49:57):
That's it. That's the move. Joe.
Speaker 3 (50:00):
Do you mind using your status in the organization, your
high public approval rating, and your track record of getting
the Bengals to shift from one direction to the other?
Speaker 4 (50:13):
Do you mind doing that so Bengals will pay me
to That's it.
Speaker 3 (50:18):
That's the only way things change here. I don't know
what Joe would do. Joe has stay tod a preference
for Trey Hendrickson to get paid, and there's a part
of me that thinks he genuinely wants that. There's a
part of me that believes Joe is just being a
good teammate, and there's a part of me that understands
(50:39):
that Joe was really emphatic about T Higgins. He also
mentioned other guys, one of whom got paid Mike GESICKI
that's what I want to know. That's what I would
want to know if I was Trey Hendrickson, Well, Joe
Burrow go to bat for me the way he did
T Higgins. Because when Joe Burrow started to go to
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bed for T Higgins, you could hear the screeching sound
of the organization. It's pretty good screeching sound by me.
Uh December ninth, I think it was in Dallas, right,
And suddenly they went from T Higgins is going to
be a free agent to T Higgins is going to
be a Bengal for pretty much the rest of the decade.
So that's the phone call forget Jeremy Fowler, Adam Schefter
(51:24):
or Pat McAfee or the sidekicking the cowboy hat or
the a J Hawk at his turtle knacks, like, forget
that show and forget anybody in the media. Call Joe Burrow, Joe,
do you mind? That's what I want to know. Is
Joe Burrow going to state an emphatic desire to have
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Trey Hendrickson get a long term deal here and and
maybe maybe his first media availability of mini camp or
OTAs or training camp, or maybe he'll go to podcast.
Speaker 4 (52:10):
I don't know. I don't know.
Speaker 3 (52:16):
But if I was Trey Hendrickson, yeah, I'm calling my quarterback.
I'm calling the guy who could actually get things done
for my teammates and maybe for me.
Speaker 5 (52:26):
What's it?
Speaker 4 (52:26):
Man? In the absence of that, the rest of this
is useless.
Speaker 3 (52:35):
That the rest of this is just, frankly, two sides
staring at each other. And when that happens, it's a
matter of who blinks first. My guess is the Bengals
won't blink. And then so we wonder, is Trey really
gonna decide to miss football games, like real football games,
(52:55):
football games that he would get paid for. Before we
get to that, can Joe Burrow change the Bengals approach
with Trey Hendrickson like he did with t Higgins By
the way, Joe may try and the Bengals go, uh yeah, Joe, Look, man,
we gave you tea we brought, we brought back to
SICKI we're gonna stick to our guns here with Trey, Okay, Man,
(53:20):
Like they may do that, they may, I don't think
that would be that surprising, quite frankly, Like, all right, Joe,
you told us what to do with one player. You
told us what to do with one huge sum of money.
You're you're not gonna tell us what to do with
this one. Did Trey make a phone call? Man, somebody
give him Joe Burrow's number if he doesn't have it, Uh,
(53:44):
sixteen after four o'clock.
Speaker 5 (53:45):
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Green has a grade one groinstream Grade one groinstring. Now
we are gonna chat with one of the experts from
(54:08):
Ortho Sinsey tomorrow and get a more clinical view of this.
This is, basically, my understanding, is a pretty mild muscle strain.
I have not seen any transaction. I'm looking at Physiopedia
groinstrain grade one no loss of function, which is good.
(54:31):
So the lower the grade the better. That's my understanding here.
So as things go, this is pretty good news. Grade
one groinstrain, but it's still a groin strain, I would imagine,
and I'm certainly no doctor. I could barely do this
job well. I would imagine that. Let's say he's going
(54:52):
to miss a couple of starts, which would be a stint,
so to speak. On the injured list. We'll see, we'll see.
But grade one groin strain, according to Charlie Goldsmith, who,
by the way, also offered an update on Jake Frayley,
who says his calf is not torn. It's less tightness
(55:12):
but more of a burning sensation because there's some internal bleeding.
Jake says, quote, I think I'll be good. He's trying
to make the case to play in Houston. Okay, that
doesn't sound awesome. They're still internal bleeding. Right, We're gonna
(55:33):
have a lot to talk about with our guy. I
think we're talking with doctor cor some worthows since you tomorrow,
so uh, we look forward to that. Five one, three, seven, four, nine,
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Speaker 3 (58:24):
I wish that instead of focusing on fixing college football,
that an executive order would be made for all games
and events to have paper tickets. I know this is
one of my cause selabs paper tickets. Like the other
(58:47):
night you hanging ol Suarez said, four homers in a game,
be kind of cool to have that ticket instead of
a screenshot of a QR code. Let's see here, Mike,
go ahead, you're on ESPN fifteen thirty.
Speaker 4 (59:00):
What's up?
Speaker 14 (59:02):
You got to have a blood transfusion?
Speaker 4 (59:07):
I'm sorry.
Speaker 5 (59:08):
Did you ever experience a blood transfusion?
Speaker 12 (59:12):
No?
Speaker 4 (59:12):
Fortunately not. Is that what you're going through?
Speaker 13 (59:15):
You don't.
Speaker 5 (59:17):
Yeah, I'm just gonna see a world. Yeah, Aaron, sounds
like no big deal, right, take the old blood out,
sticking new blood in. Uh A little bit more to
it than that, my friends. Well, I have more involved
in analyzing football, basketball, and baseball teams.
Speaker 4 (59:35):
Us.
Speaker 5 (59:35):
Yes, you know what I'm saying. Takes a slightly higher education.
Uh boy, I don't want to start here, buddy.
Speaker 4 (59:43):
Are you okay today? Are you all right?
Speaker 5 (59:46):
I mean, I guess, you know, yeah, I guess I am, well,
you know, real uncomfortable. But thanks for asking. Sure, thanks
for the distraction. Uh, Reds are five hundred team. That's
just the way it's going to be for the year.
Speaker 4 (01:00:00):
Yes, off and on all year.
Speaker 5 (01:00:03):
Lucks hasn't gotten hurt yet, hopefully won't, but good chance
he will historically at least in some game. And I
just and how about this. Listen to this Reds fan.
The team with the lowest payroll in baseball is two
games about five hundred and in second place in their division.
(01:00:24):
The Sacramento Athletics. Put that in your pike and smoke it.
Speaker 3 (01:00:30):
Now. You're right about that, although they should still be
in Oakland. It's not like though they haven't spent a
little bit money on some of the players they have
on this year's team compared to the last two decades.
Speaker 4 (01:00:41):
But you're right, you're you're You're absolutely right, Mike.
Speaker 3 (01:00:44):
People say all the time, well, the Reds can't compete
with the Dodgers and Matts and Yankees, and I go, fine,
I don't want them to.
Speaker 4 (01:00:50):
I need them to compete with the Milwaukee Brewers.
Speaker 3 (01:00:53):
I need them to compete with the Saint Louis Cardinals,
which they're doing a good job of this year.
Speaker 4 (01:00:57):
Because the Cardinals aren't very good.
Speaker 3 (01:00:59):
I need them to be better than the A's and
the Rays and the Royals and the Pirates like that.
That's fine. Just get me to the same playoff as
the Dodgers. And in a sport like baseball, anything can happen.
So I I immediately dismiss it when I hear, well,
the Reds and Dodgers are on a different level.
Speaker 14 (01:01:17):
Well.
Speaker 3 (01:01:17):
Number one, then Red's ownership should bandy together all the
other owners and when it's time to negotiate a new CBA,
get them to agree to some form of financial uh. Equality.
I was lost. I lost the word there, equality or
parody there? Right, that ain't gonna happen. Number two, forget
(01:01:40):
about competing with the Dodgers. Compete against the Milwaukee Brewers,
who have made the playoffs. What six I think in
the last seven years?
Speaker 5 (01:01:47):
Mm hmm, Yeah, you're right. No, I agree with you
one hundred percent. It's just, you know, it's it's just
a thing with It is a shame. It's not so
much the team's fault. That that's city council there in
the city. Man, they just subscrewed the Oakland teams over
so many times with stadium stuff and I'm just completely
(01:02:08):
unreasonable deals and no help and it's just it's so
just the team's fault.
Speaker 3 (01:02:14):
I think as it relates, I think as it relates
to the A's, it is I think I think the
prince of the gap and that the dude who owns
the A's is his Mommy and daddy started the gap
and that's how he made his money. He let that
ballpark rot, he alienated fans for two decades, and he
made some very unreasonable demands and many times refused to
negotiate with leaders in Northern California. So I put that
(01:02:38):
almost entirely on the dude who owns the Oakland A's.
Speaker 5 (01:02:42):
Bring me back, Charlie Finley, the most colorful owner. Other than.
Speaker 3 (01:02:47):
You're probably right about that, that is a storied franchise, Mike.
I mean, the Oakland A's have won I think only
three franchises have won more World Series, and they had
a very colorful history. You know, you look at the
the seventies with the three World Series they won the fighting,
bickering a seventy two, seventy three, and seventy four, and
then in the late eighties, man like when the Reds
(01:03:09):
beat the Oakland A's, they beat America's team. Every twelve
year old kid had an Oakland A's hat. They had
the Bash Brothers, they had Ricky Henderson, they had Dave
Stewart like those those teams were a big part of
my childhood. And then they obviously had some success in
the two thousands, the Moneyball era, Maltor, Hudson, Zito, those guys,
(01:03:31):
Miguel Tahata. That is a that is a franchise that
has a lot of history. Denniscresley has a lot of
history and a lot of winning history. For it to
be as nomadic as it is and for it to
be treated the way it has is malpractice.
Speaker 5 (01:03:45):
In my opinion, I agree, and I still say that
they're still my favorite uniform in all baseball. I just
love that uniform. Always here. Okay, how about you look
to I don't know where to start because they can't.
I can't do all this because.
Speaker 4 (01:03:58):
It I like, I got like two minutes, So give
me your best.
Speaker 14 (01:04:01):
Two Okay, you know you guys you think the Bengals
are a serious contender.
Speaker 5 (01:04:11):
I just don't. I don't because I just we talked
about the other day, and I'm looking at these other teams.
Denver has made great strikes. Denver is a dangerous football
team sixty three facts last year, not to mention a
good overall defense. Knicks has come along as a quarterback
just like Teyton. You knew he was kind of breeding.
(01:04:32):
And uh, and they're and they had a good draft,
a tough team, and and and the Chargers. You go, well,
the Chargers, you know they're gonna fall on their face
again Harball and blah blah blah. But the difference is
Harball Wow, and nig Harris comes over and this is
going to be a dangerous team.
Speaker 3 (01:04:53):
No, they have three teams in that division that are
awesome and a Hall of Fame caliber coach for the
one team that I'm not sure about with the Raiders.
Here's the answer to the question about the Bengals being
a legitimate contender. My take from the end of the
season has been if the Bengals have a good and
productive offseason, hell, yes, they're contenders. I don't know if
they've had a good and productive offseason.
Speaker 4 (01:05:15):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (01:05:15):
I mean, I think, look nothing against the six players
that they drafted or some that they acquired in as
college free agents. I don't know, man, I just don't
know that what they added via the draft, plus what
they've added in free agency, subtract what they didn't do
in free agency, subtract what they didn't do during the draft,
(01:05:38):
and then add to it the team they had, much
of which is coming back for this year. I don't
know that, even with Joe Burrow, that they're going to
be considered one of the favorites to win the Super Bowl. Now,
if it turns out that Duke Tobin nailed the draft,
has three or four players who can provide an instant impact,
(01:05:59):
and Al Golden can coach some of these dudes two
levels that they've never played before, and they have fixed
the interior of their offensive line, well then hell yeah,
I'll take my chances against anybody in the NFL. I
do feel like there's still too much of a you
know what, just get to the postseason and you got Burrow,
and you'll take your chances. Feel to the entire operation.
(01:06:20):
I reserve the right to change my mind based on
early season results.
Speaker 4 (01:06:24):
Right, Like, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (01:06:26):
I want to see if the Bengals start fast, which
they haven't done in a few years now. It's gonna
tell me, you know what. Number One they prioritize getting
off to a fast start. Number two, Yeah, they nailed
the off season, but the offseason part of it, Mike,
I don't know, and I still I still have in
the back of my mind this sense that they have
left some holes on the team.
Speaker 4 (01:06:50):
Not completely addressed, not totally unaddressed.
Speaker 3 (01:06:53):
Although they obviously haven't added safety, they haven't gone as
far as I think many of us would have liked
in filling some of those holes and addressing some of
those needs.
Speaker 5 (01:07:03):
Okay, let me here. Here's a comparison that just came
to mind. Joe Burrow is as important to the Bengals
as Hunter Green is to the Reds. Those are the two.
Let's face it, the Reds make the playoffs. You got
Hunter Green going, We'll pitch him against anybody, I don't
care who it is, and you win Game one or
who knows what could happen? Like you said earlier, So
(01:07:23):
we've got the two main dudes we need on both
these teams. But are the supporting cast. This didn't give
men them.
Speaker 4 (01:07:30):
Well what I like, Mike, I like this comparison more.
Speaker 3 (01:07:34):
I don't like comparing an NFL quarterback to a major
league starting pitcher who pitches once every fifth day, But
I think with both. With the Bengals, you have the
most important part. You've got this this key piece. He
is a great player at the sport's most important position.
You've got to win while you have that guy. From
a reds perspective, they have a core of good players
in place, and they have a good starting staff. Now
(01:07:57):
you know, some of the players they have in place
maybe aren't performing great right now. Matt McClain, Elie deler
Cruise is having a good season, but not a great season.
But like they have a core, you've got to win
while you have that in place. You've got to win
while you have Hunter Green and Andrew Abbott and Nicolodolo,
just like you have to win when you have an
elite level quarterback like the Bengals do with Joe Burrow. Mike,
(01:08:18):
I hope, I hope the transfusion goes well. We'll talk
to you soon, man, Thanks so much, Thank you. All right,
it's twenty six away from five o'clock. All right, I
have to do this. I have to do this. So
apparently the president's going to fix college sports, and Tommy
(01:08:40):
Tuberville wants college sports to be fixed, and so does.
Speaker 4 (01:08:43):
Nick Saban, and so do a lot of fans.
Speaker 3 (01:08:46):
I'll tell you what I hear when I hear that
college sports need fixing.
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Speaker 4 (01:11:00):
So there you go.
Speaker 3 (01:11:00):
That's relatively speaking, good news. What else do we have? Oh,
Jake Frayley is again not in the starting lineup tonight.
Charlie also tweeted about that. In fact, he's got a
direct quote from Jake, so you might remember he was
not in the starting lineup last night. One of many
Reds that has pulled up lame with an injury issue.
(01:11:25):
But he says his calf is stretched but not torn.
There's a burning sensation because there's some internal bleeding, but
he's going to try to make the case that he
could play in Houston.
Speaker 4 (01:11:38):
A couple of other things.
Speaker 3 (01:11:40):
Terry Francona did say today, by the way, that Hunter
Green's going to go on the injured list no move today,
which means he will miss a minimum of two starts. Also,
Christian and Carnacion Strand, who's been dealing with that sore
lower back, headed to the Arizona Complex there in Goodyear
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Speaker 4 (01:12:20):
I know I'm in the minority here.
Speaker 3 (01:12:24):
When I hear that college sports need to be fixed,
my question is are they broken? And maybe my view
is more limited than it should be, but I see
a large entity that continues to get bigger, that continues
to grow in popularity, and that continues to be profitable
(01:12:47):
for everybody involved in it. Coaches are getting paid, Administrators
are getting paid. Jobs are for the most being created.
Television networks and streamings are services can invest enough in
college football. There's no shortage of sponsors. Players are getting paid.
The TV ratings are awesome. More teams than ever before
(01:13:10):
have access in college football to the National Championship. NCAA
tournament ratings were through the roof this year. What's broken?
Like to me, something is broke broken when people stop
consuming it. You know, there are industries that used to
thrive that people aren't consuming the product as much. Anymore
(01:13:32):
kind of broken. If the stadiums are empty and the
TV ratings are awful and there are no sponsors and
there's no money, you can tell me the college sports
are broken, who are they broken for? So I read this,
and this is not a political statement. We do not
do politics on this show. But there is going to
(01:13:53):
be apparently a presidential commission to study college sports presidential commision.
So I would imagine, knowing what I know about presidential commissions,
that this is going to serve at the pleasure of
the President of the United States. I'm gonna be honest
with you, regardless of your feelings of the current president.
(01:14:15):
I sort of think there are some other bigger picture
issue things bigger picture, including me talking bigger picture issues
to be fixed than college sports.
Speaker 4 (01:14:26):
But that's just me.
Speaker 3 (01:14:28):
So there's going to be this presidential commission though on
college sports, and serving on it, I guess is going
to be Nick Saban, and apparently Tommy Turberville wants in
on it too, And there's also going to be a
Texas billionaire by the name of Cody Campbell, who's a
huge Texas tech booster. So we have two retired coaches,
(01:14:50):
one who's a senator and a billionaire booster. I haven't
heard about which college athletes are going to be serving
on this committee to help study college athletics. Now, maybe
they study college athletics and arrive at the conclusion that
they're not broken. I don't know, though, when I see
you know, Nick Saban says he believes that college football
(01:15:13):
needs to be fixed. Tommy Tuberville is really concerned. He
says the sport is in danger. He brought up recently,
you know players and the money they're making. So did
Nick Saban, who asked, quote, where does it end? On
ESPN when referencing athletes swelling paydays?
Speaker 4 (01:15:35):
Where does it end?
Speaker 3 (01:15:38):
I don't recall him or anybody else asking where does
it end when bad football coaches continue to command six
and in some cases seven digit salaries. This is just me,
and again I know I'm in the minority here. Whenever
I hear someone say college football is broken, or college
(01:16:00):
basketball is being ruined, or the sports need fixing, what
I hear? What I hear in my brain is I
don't like the fact that the players are getting paid.
That may be a gross oversimplification, but you know, when
when we started to have like massive conference realignment, which
is massively unpopular with most college sports fans. Uh and
(01:16:26):
we just started. We started to tear apart traditional rivalries
and built in partnerships between schools and the same conference.
I didn't hear anything about presidential commissions to study college sports.
But as soon as the players started getting their share
of the coin, well, now we have to study things.
(01:16:47):
That's kind of interesting to me. I would be willing
to bet that if and this can't happen right because
you know, the Supreme Court basically ruled like, uh yeah,
college athletes should start to be able to cash in
on their name, image and likeness, which is something that
should have happened decades ago. But if suddenly that was
(01:17:10):
like if that went away and somebody you know, waved
a magic wand and the athletes aren't getting paid anymore,
I'm I'm going to back. Guess what, you know, we
don't really need to fix anything. We kind of fix
the one thing we were concerned about. I just I'm
I'm and I say this is a college football lover
and a college basketball just junkie, and as as someone
(01:17:32):
who does understand in any sport, there have to be
some regulations I mean, I do, I do understand the
need for rules. I don't know why we can't ask
the people in charge of the sport to come up
with ways to have rules. Why do we need government involvement,
(01:17:52):
especially when the current administration is preaching lack of government involvement,
gutting the government to a degree government not being involved
in as many things. I mean, that's kind of a
fair take, isn't it not even really a partisan take?
(01:18:13):
If you're going to do the whole like less government's
good thing, which I kind of agree with, then do
you want government like meddling in college sports, especially when
it doesn't feel like it's going to come from a
place where we're going to be open to the athletes
continuing to have the power and the earning potential they have.
(01:18:36):
I just I'm dubious and I'm skeptical, and I maybe
shouldn't be. But whenever I hear wow, we've got to
figure out a way to fix college sports, in my head,
I just here like, yeah, you got to figure out
a way to make sure those kids aren't getting the
kind of money that they're getting now. I don't recall
any presidential commissions being launched when coach's salaries started spiraling
(01:18:58):
out of control, or when long standing rivalries were being
broken up, or when we started to form conferences that
span the entire continental United States. Well, but now the
players are getting paid, so we have to start. We
had to take a good hard look at this cool
who's going to be taking a good hard look at it?
(01:19:19):
Some old, washed up coaches and a billionaire who's a
booster awesome. I just.
Speaker 4 (01:19:29):
I don't really know what's broken here.
Speaker 3 (01:19:31):
I know one of the obvious answers is going to be, well,
you just you have you know, all the transfers, and
there's two thousand college basketball players going.
Speaker 4 (01:19:37):
From school to school to school to school.
Speaker 3 (01:19:39):
And that may be annoying to you, and I'm certainly
willing to admit to a degree. It's there's a part
of me that misses, hey, your school recruited this guy,
and barring something bad, he's going to be or she
is going to be a part of the program for
the next four or five years, and watching them develop.
As a sports fan, I do kind of miss that,
But I don't recall any commissions me. When coaches started
(01:20:02):
getting out of their contracts and hopscotching around the country
looking for the bigger payday, or the next opportunity or
a more prestigious UH school to go work at. No commissions,
nobody calling for the sport to be fixed. So I'm
curious as to how this is going to work. I'm
curious as to what findings they'll come up with. I'm
(01:20:26):
curious to see if any actual college athletes will be
on the Commission to Study College Athletics five point three
fifteen thirty. I just I know I'm in the minority here.
I don't think college sports are as broken as everybody
else thinks. College football ratings this past year were through
(01:20:46):
the roof. All those playoff games had huge crowds. The
NCAA Tournament this year had amazingly good ratings. College basketball
itself was awesome this season. If nobody's consuming those things,
you can convince me there needs to be fixes. People
are consuming those things, and everybody within the sports themselves
(01:21:10):
are getting paid like you know, how many like you
know administrator jobs. You'll find if you look at a
school's athletic department directory and you look at some of
those people, it's like, what do you do? So everybody's
getting rich, everybody's getting paid and everybody's watching.
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Speaker 4 (01:22:51):
Micultra, there you go, way the music. My favorite call.
Speaker 3 (01:22:55):
We've gotten over the last couple of weeks was the
dude who in the first hour asked me why oh
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superior taste, superior team up two to oh, all right,
that's good news for me. That balanced out losing Hunter
Green last night. So the update on Hunter Green as
this Reds won the game last night, And first of all,
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can you imagine how we would have felt last night
and this morning and even this afternoon had we be
talking about Hunter Green going on the injured list, which
he is and the Reds losing the game. It is
to their credit they did not last night. The bullpen
was good enough, they scored runs early. TJ Friedel a
big night. The Reds hang on and win four to
three and staved off the feeling of devastation that would
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have come with a fifth consecutive loss, another injury, and
that injury being two Hunter Green.
Speaker 4 (01:23:44):
So start with that.
Speaker 3 (01:23:47):
I guess comparatively speaking, we've gotten good news from Atlanta.
So Hunter Green's gonna go on the injured list, which
means he's gonna miss a minimum of two starts. He
has a Grade one groin strain. Now there are three
different grades of groinstrain. Grade one is the least severe.
That doesn't mean that this is gonna be you know,
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ten days and Hunter Green is back. Who knows, everybody
is different, we'll see. But if you were thinking or
fearing the worst last night, when Hunter Green is coming
off the mound with a trainer in tow, well, then
today feels like good news because I think a lot
of us were thinking, oh man, like not not again,
and not that it was going to be some like
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season ending thing. But Hunter Green is really important to
this team. Starting pitching is really important to this team.
So it feels like today we got the best case scenario.
I think most of us understood that there was gonna
be something that ended up with Hunter on the injured list.
Speaker 4 (01:24:48):
He's going to go on for at least ten days.
He'll miss at least two starts.
Speaker 3 (01:24:52):
We will see and look, man, I understand and I
share it. Skepticism about okay, they say he's gonna be fun.
Like there's a list of injuries and it's not just here,
but there's a list of injuries that the initial diagnosis was, Hey,
it's it's pretty benign. It's gonna be okay, and it
turns out to be a long lasting thing. But it
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does feel like, all things considered, that we've gotten some
good news from Atlanta today. The Reds cannot afford major injuries,
long lasting injuries to their starting rotation. I have not
seen anything from Atlanta suggesting a roster move. I don't
think there's gonna be one today. We'll see what the
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Reds do with Hunter spot in the rotation. They are
in the middle of a stretch. They're obviously playing tonight.
They are in the middle of a stretch. They go
to Houston this week, they play again, or their next
off day is going to be on Monday. Then they
start that series at home with the White Sox, and
then there's not another off day until And you could
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tell I'm looking at the schedule from across the room
instead of just pulling it up on the internet, there's
not another off day until I don't know why. When
you go to the red schedule at Reds dot com,
it takes you.
Speaker 4 (01:26:08):
Right to March.
Speaker 3 (01:26:09):
There's an off day on Monday, the twelfth, and then
another off day on Thursday, the twenty second, So we'll
see how they manage it. But I think if you're
like me, your biggest concern was is Hunter gonna be okay?
And it feels like there's a decent chance that the
answer is going to be yes. But Okay, isn't good. Okay,
isn't great, Okay, isn't no big deal. Okay means he
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goes on the injured list and hopefully is going to
miss just a couple of starts. So I guess the
way I look at this is the Reds have treaded water.
Now you may go, hey, that's great, and you may
go that's not good enough.
Speaker 4 (01:26:47):
They have treaded water.
Speaker 3 (01:26:49):
And coming into the season, we had a lot of
questions about this team, right, A lot of questions, A
lot of questions because of the new manager, a lot
of questions because of acquisite from other teams, a lot
of questions because of the sense that maybe they could
have done more to add to the team. A lot
of questions about players coming back from injury, a lot
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of questions about how good certain players are going to be,
a lot of questions about some players maybe being even
better than they already have been. Lots of questions, and
here in the first basically quarter of the season, we've
continued to add to the list of questions, and we're
still trying to figure out. I think, like who can
do what, who ideally can play? Where Austin Hayes is
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hopefully going to come back here maybe by tomorrow. Indeed,
how good is he going to be for this team?
And can he stay healthy? Guy has a long list
of injuries, already been on the Ange list twice this year.
How much is he really going to contribute? How much
is Cees going to contribute? When's he gonna get here?
He's going to Arizona to start baseball activities, I guess
(01:27:53):
this weekend. But like, I don't know, Christian and Carnassi
on Strand might be a guy who it's twenty five
homers a season. He might be a guy who is
twenty five homers a season playing in Japan because he
can't play here. I don't know, a lot of uncertainty
with him. What kind of player is noelve Marte? Really
we saw some good things, but now he's on the
injured list. When does he come back? Is Elie de
(01:28:15):
la Cruz gonna make the leap?
Speaker 4 (01:28:17):
You know?
Speaker 3 (01:28:17):
We keep talking about superstardom and can he be an
MVP candidate? And is he gonna be like a seven
hundred million dollar player. Well, he's got to be better
than he has been, even though he's obviously not having
a terrible season by any stretch. Is Matt McClain worth
worrying about? Is he best suited to the two hole?
When's the light bulb gonna come on? Offensively? Can they
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get more production from an outfield that right now consists of,
among others, Jacob Herdabees, Blake Dunn, and Reese Hines. Can
they afford to wait to the trade deadline to get
a bat? Can they afford to wait to the trade
deadline to get a bullpen?
Speaker 5 (01:28:54):
Arm?
Speaker 3 (01:28:55):
Who should close? I kind of like Emilia Pagan closing?
But is every body in the right role in the bullpen?
Can they make a trade in May and not wait
to the deadline? So many questions, so much uncertainty, but
amid all of it, one of the few things you
knew was Hunter Green as a staff as, And now
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one of the few things you knew gets moved to
the uncertainty pile. One of the answers Hunter Green is
an answer, like who are the dudes? Who are the
guys you can count on? Hunter Green is an answer.
Now that answer turns into a little bit of a question.
(01:29:44):
That's frustrating if you're a fan. It's less than ideal
if you're Terry Francona and trying to sift through a
lot of uncertainty while trying to keep keep things afloat
and steer the club up toward contention. So we'll see
how he and they navigate this. And like I get
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accused sometimes of like I'm a Hunter Homer, which I'm not.
I just I'm a big fan. I also think he's
really good, and the numbers back me up. His last
thirty starts, opposing hitters are batting one seventy five early
in the game last night, he looked really good. His era,
his last thirty starts, that's basically a full season's where
the starts.
Speaker 4 (01:30:28):
Two, four, four.
Speaker 3 (01:30:29):
Bonafide staff as and if he misses just two starts
and statistically continues to have the season that he's had
to this point, sure, man, he'll get at least some
n El SA Young Award consideration. But you have to
tap the breaks when it comes to that, and you
maybe have to tap the breaks a little bit when
it comes to this team, just a little bit more
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because one of the known quantities, there's now a cloud
of uncertainty about him. Not how good he is, not
the kind of guy he is, of course, but can
he get healthy in time?
Speaker 4 (01:31:06):
And you know, honestly, can he stay healthy? Like that's
part of the conversation.
Speaker 3 (01:31:12):
And I hate it because Hunter Green will go on
the injured list. This is his fourth big league season
and it'll be four seasons where he's had to spend
some time not active, on the il, not in the rotation,
missing starts. That does not mean that he's a bad picture.
(01:31:35):
Certainly doesn't mean he's a bad guy, doesn't mean he's
a bad investment. He's one of the biggest bargains in
the game. But that's kind of you know, we talked
about this with Matt McLean. Injuries are kind of part
of the story. Austin Hayes has like a thousand different
leg injuries. It's part of his story, unfortunately different parts
of the body. It's a part of Hunter Greens as well.
So you know, we do this thing all the time.
(01:31:56):
And you know, Tony asked me today on Sincy three
sixty how I felt the about the Reds just treading water,
and I just I get tired of hearing about how
they just got to tread water, just gotta get through
this next stretch. Like at some point I don't want
to just get through, Like I don't want to just
get through my day.
Speaker 4 (01:32:13):
The idea is have a great.
Speaker 3 (01:32:14):
Day, a productive day, a fun day. I don't want
to just get through the three hours I do every day.
I want to try to make it entertaining. I want
to try to make it fun. That's the idea, that
not just get through the three hours. I don't want
to just get through a baseball season. I don't want
to just get through a bunch of games, like want
to win them. How can they do better than just
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tread water when there's so much uncertainty. That was a
fair question twenty four hours ago. It's an even more
fair question now because the surest thing they have, there's
now a little uncertainty about them. Uh five pint three,
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seven four nine, fifteen thirty is our phone number in
eight six six seven oh two three seven seven six
works as well. And you know we talk about them
treading water, and hey, you know they're still at arm's length.
They've hung in there. And maybe that's two their credit.
But if it is to their credit, the credit goes
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to the starting pitching. Starting pitching is keeping this team afloat.
That's obviously five guys. Nick Lodolo has certainly had his
moments this year. Andrew Abbott, it goes without saying, has
had his He was terrific on Tuesday Night. And I
think Nick Martinez is throwing better. And Brady Singer, I think,
for the most part, has been a positive. He's been
(01:33:38):
better for the Reds at last check than Jonathan India
has been for the Kansas City Royals, if that's how
you judge trades.
Speaker 4 (01:33:44):
And I'm not sure that's the best way to do it.
But the reason why.
Speaker 3 (01:33:48):
The Reds haven't completely fallen apart with a below league
average offense, with all the injuries, with a lot of
other issues, the guy who I think ideally is the
closer not starting the season healthy pitching and then pitching
poorly and being sent to Louisville. The reason why this
team is still hanging in there is the starting pitching,
(01:34:11):
and the main reason why the Reds get to the
postseason if they do, if they defy the odds.
Speaker 4 (01:34:16):
And do, is going to be the starting pitching.
Speaker 3 (01:34:20):
The starting pitching is compromised if Hunter Green is getting
the ball every fifth day. So hopefully my fingers are crossed.
I'm sure Nick Crawls is too. I'm sure Terry Franconas is.
Can Hunter Green miss just two starts, come back and
pitch the way he was?
Speaker 4 (01:34:38):
We'll see.
Speaker 3 (01:34:39):
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will sit out regular season games and give up the
money that comes with them if he doesn't get a
(01:35:21):
new contract. I'm probably in the minority with this one too.
I actually think the answer might be yes. I think
Trey Hendrickson is and this is not an insult.
Speaker 4 (01:35:36):
I think Trey.
Speaker 3 (01:35:36):
Hendrickson is a different enough dude that he might go, yeah, man,
I'll forgo a little bit less than a million dollars
to miss a game. I would not advise him to
do that. I think it's dumb to give up that
kind of money just because you're pissed off at the
amount of money you're not making. We'll see most of
(01:35:57):
you in the early voting disagree with me. And the
other one is I know I'm in the minority here.
I think college sports needs some regulation. I don't think
college sports are broken, man, I don't. And maybe that's
me just looking at things through glasses that are a
little bit too rose colored. I just, at the end
(01:36:18):
of the day, man, here's I'm about the quality of
what I watch. I'm about the games. The games are
still good. And the games are still interesting and everybody's
still watching the games. I struggle with the idea that
the sport's broken. I struggle with the idea that and
I know this is me mainly focused on football and basketball.
(01:36:40):
I struggle with the idea that those sports are broken
when so many people are interested, when so many people
are investing, and when so many people are making money
off them. So I ask, because there's going to be
a commission, a presidential commission to study college sports? Do
you trust Nick Saban, who I guess is going to
be a part of this. Tommy Tuberville, who I guess
(01:37:00):
wants to be a part of this, which means it
probably isn't going to meet all that much because Tommy
Tuberville really doesn't like work. Do you trust Nick Sabe
and Tommy Tuberville in some billionaire Texas tech booster to
fix college sports?
Speaker 4 (01:37:13):
Most of you do not vote now?
Speaker 3 (01:37:15):
At Mo Edgar, Uh, can Joe Burrow do a solid
for Trey Hendrickson? Does Joe Burrow want to do a
solid for Trey Hendrickson. We'll get to that a little
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got the scheduler Lease Show on Wednesday night. That's going
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are kind of trading jobs that night for reasons that
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don't make any sense for me to get into it
right now, and nothing bad by any stretch, but that's
going to be a really fun night schedule. Lease Night
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who complain, it's a great event and there are no losers.
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to nine portion will be from Smoke Justice with Lance
and Tony twenty seven after five o'clock and folks waiting
on hold, let's see here. Preston, You're on ESPN fifteen thirty. Preston,
how are you hey?
Speaker 5 (01:39:49):
Good.
Speaker 13 (01:39:50):
Thanks for having me on this.
Speaker 9 (01:39:51):
You appreciate it.
Speaker 4 (01:39:52):
Thanks you for calling in.
Speaker 5 (01:39:53):
What's up?
Speaker 13 (01:39:54):
So? Yeah, I work in college football. I see a
lot of it. We got college teams that are now
getting a thirty to fifty one hundred million dollars budgets
to go after players, right and the further we get
down the line here, it's harder for me to justify
why we have this connection between amateur sports and college
(01:40:16):
at all anymore. College football, college basketball in particular, I mean,
these things are sustainable on their own. I don't know
why we're wasting class time. I don't know why we're
charging kids extraordinary amounts of to wish and just to
pump it into a football program that could sustain itself.
(01:40:37):
So at some point down the road, I think they
need to start looking into separating college football in college
basketball from the university somehow. I don't see the connection
of higher learning and amateur sports being really relevant anymore
when you start talking about the kind of money we are,
(01:40:58):
you know, pushing into.
Speaker 3 (01:40:59):
These pro but I mean, what is what is wrong
with saying that a requirement of competing for a team
that represents the university is enrollment in that university.
Speaker 4 (01:41:10):
I don't really have an issue with that, and that
and then the individual schools.
Speaker 3 (01:41:16):
I mean, there are I'm sure there are college athletes
who never go to class. I'm sure there are college
athletes who are awesome students and take advantage of all
the academic opportunities in front of them. But I don't
I don't really have an issue with tying eligibility to
being enrolled as a student at the university that the
athletic department and the football or basketball or track program
(01:41:38):
itself represents.
Speaker 13 (01:41:41):
That that's a reasonable argument. I can't say I think
I thought this thing through too well. It just seems that,
my goodness, the money is outrageous, and it feels like
the kids paying the tuition are really the ones getting
short end of the stick.
Speaker 3 (01:41:57):
So here's what I don't know, mainly because I don't
have a kid who's college aged, I don't know how
many schools have hiked tuition prices, And maybe the answer
is a lot. I'm asking rhetorically here, how many schools
have raised tuition because they have to fill a funding
(01:42:18):
gap with the football program.
Speaker 13 (01:42:21):
Yeah, it's a great question.
Speaker 4 (01:42:23):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (01:42:23):
I mean, I'm asking rhetorically here, I know that tuition
at a lot of schools has gone up Miama Mater,
the University of Dayton, which doesn't have D one football.
I have no idea how anybody affords that, but I
don't gather that suddenly have students and their families who
are feeling a pinch when it comes to tuition, specifically
(01:42:47):
because of the money being devoted to college sports.
Speaker 13 (01:42:53):
Yeah, that's a great question.
Speaker 4 (01:42:55):
Have to do some research on that, Preston, do that
and get back to me.
Speaker 13 (01:42:58):
Okay, thanks for your talking, a buddy. I appreciate it.
Speaker 3 (01:43:01):
You know, I appreciate you calling in. Yeah, I don't
I've not heard. And again, man, my daughter's going to
be eight next week. We are I'll say the college
is on our radar because I do know what it costs.
But we're trying to finish second grade here with a bang, right.
So I don't have a kid who's going to college,
but I certainly know a lot of people who do.
(01:43:21):
And I haven't heard anyone say like, well, we can't
afford college because the tuition is inane. And again, there's
a lot of schools, man, Like again, I went to
U D, I went to u D in the nineties.
It was expensive then and it took me ten years
to pay off. And you know, I don't know how
a family like mine back when I was a kid
(01:43:42):
could afford to go to the University of Dayton.
Speaker 4 (01:43:44):
I have no idea.
Speaker 3 (01:43:44):
I had know some well healed people whose kids go there,
and that's terrific. It's a fantastic place to go to school.
So I certainly understand there are our families who it's
like some schools I'd like to send my kid, but
I can't because of the cost, and we don't want
to take out an insane amount of loans because financially
be you know, really tricky to navigate. But I've not
heard anybody say I wanted my kids to go to
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this school but I can't because they raise their tuition
because they got to pay more for football. That doesn't
mean it's not happening. I just again, like it comes
back to the concept of college sports being needing a fix.
My view is immittiedly probably limited, But I see everybody
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getting paid. I see the money flowing through college sports.
I see sponsors, television, network, streaming services. I see boosters,
I see the athletes themselves getting paid, and I know,
like there's a market difference between you know, Johnny Football
getting paid and Jenny Swimmer getting paid. I understand that. Uh,
(01:44:46):
But for the sports that people pay attention to most,
the ratings are awesome. Heck, for sports like women's basketball,
the ratings are awesome. Women's volleyball, the ratings are awesome.
The College Softball World Series is coming up, ratings will
be great, So people are watching, people are buying tickets.
The playoff is bigger in football because you know, we
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were given more schools access to the championship. We're about
to expand the NCAA tournament for reasons that I don't
entirely understand. Like I just keep see adding expansion, and
I don't see anybody leaving. I don't see anybody deciding
I'm not rooting for my favorite school. Everybody's watching the
NCAA tournament, everybody's watching the playoff. I don't understand what
(01:45:30):
needs to be fixed. I do understand that Trey Hendrickson
should have already made a phone call, and if he
hasn't done it yet, he needs to do it today.
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Speaker 4 (01:47:08):
I give it to you.
Speaker 3 (01:47:09):
I was talking before about how even as as much
as a lot of people have left Twitter, that I
still really enjoy Twitter. Facebook, on the other hand, there
are some awful human beings on Facebook. I will leave
my commentary to that. You're a starting lineup tonight, Friedolan center,
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Hines is in left field.
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Hunter Green has not been placed on the injured list,
but he will be placed on the injured list.
Speaker 4 (01:47:48):
He has a Grade one groin strain.
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That is I think the best news we could have
expected after watching him come out before the fourth inning
if last night's game in EDLANDA there you go, your
big your big sports headlines.
Speaker 4 (01:48:03):
Some absolutely awful people on.
Speaker 12 (01:48:05):
Facebook, especially on one news station's comments section. I don't
even know about that, man.
Speaker 11 (01:48:13):
I just.
Speaker 3 (01:48:15):
There's there's gonna be a day and age, there's gonna
be a time in my life. There't me a time
in my life where there's like, I'm not even sure
I should I'm not going to go there. I just
I watched something on Facebook during the break that I
just I just think is reprehensible. I just there. I'm sorry.
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Let's talk to Ron and Milford. Ron, you're on ESPN
fifteen thirty.
Speaker 4 (01:48:42):
How are you.
Speaker 9 (01:48:44):
Oh no, I'm doing all right. How are you doing?
Speaker 4 (01:48:46):
I'm doing very well. What's going on?
Speaker 9 (01:48:49):
Well, you've been all over the place, so my thoughts
are all over the place.
Speaker 5 (01:48:54):
Uh.
Speaker 9 (01:48:54):
First, first thing I got to tell you on the
college sports You're right, it's not broken. I mean, revenues
and TV and all that tell you that it's not broken.
What's broken is that you can't put your enjoyment in
one single player anymore because that player is gonna play
on four teams in four years. That's the only thing
that's broken.
Speaker 3 (01:49:12):
I don't know.
Speaker 9 (01:49:12):
There's no fixing that part.
Speaker 13 (01:49:14):
I don't think.
Speaker 9 (01:49:16):
As far as what I really called about the Reds,
I'm feeling pretty good. I think I told you earlier
in the year, I had a bet with my friends
on the over under Reds wins and they all thought.
Speaker 5 (01:49:25):
The Reds were gonna win ninety games.
Speaker 9 (01:49:27):
I'm still sticking by seven. I'm still sticking at seventy
five because the Schlubs, we weren't out there even when
they're healthy. Mo, we got shut out six times already
or is it seven?
Speaker 4 (01:49:38):
I've lost track.
Speaker 3 (01:49:39):
I do know that over the last ten games when
they've lost, was they going into last night? They lost
six out of eight, and five of those games they
had scored one runner less.
Speaker 9 (01:49:49):
Yeah. I mean, so we can act like that, you
know the offense is going to get better. But I mean, Mo,
they got the problem was is we know in the
offseason and they didn't spend their money wisely. They spent
thirty five million dollars on Nick Martinez and the candy
and keeping the candy Man. And I guess that's because
no one wants the candy Man. I mean we'd probably
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have to like eat all the candy Man's salary and
get some baseballs back for him.
Speaker 3 (01:50:15):
Yeah, or some or some candy. I mean they didn't
spend the candy Man. They didn't spend money on Candy
Man this offseason. I mean they were going to spend
that money no matter what. But yeah, look, that's a
bad investment. It's trying out to be a bad investment.
Speaker 9 (01:50:26):
I mean, well, could is there. I mean, I'm sure
you remember you're about my age. Eric Milton, I mean
Eric Milton and the candy Man. They're about as useful
to the Reds as anything else.
Speaker 4 (01:50:37):
I do remember Eric Milton human gopher ball machine? Yes,
I do.
Speaker 3 (01:50:41):
Yeah, I mean, look, I think this offseason they also
acquired Brady Singer, who's been good, Austin Hayes who's been
helpful when healthy, Jose Travino who has been a savior,
Gavin Locks who has been good. I mean, they they
did some good things this offseason. But again, I come
back to what a lot of us said in the
lead up to the season, that it's still felt like
they deserved an incomplete grade. That they made some additions,
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they made some significant additions, but it still felt like
an incomplete team. And when you were looking at, you know,
at the end of spring training, some of the contenders
for roster spots, we were still talking about guys that
like Blake don and Jacob Hurdabes and nothing against those guys,
and I certainly hope those players end up having very,
very very good big league careers. The Reds could probably
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benefit from that. But it just felt like it just
felt like when their depth got tested, they were going
to fail. It felt like the offense was still below average.
It felt like they still in the outfield specifically, could
have used a bat and they never got one.
Speaker 9 (01:51:44):
No, and no, let's face it, if they had any
confidence in her of these he would have been able
to bat instead have only come in for defensive purposes
and to run the bases the first go around. And
I mean at this point, I mean, now, mind you,
his average is certed to crash after being way up there,
but I mean, and I know he's going to strike
out a lot, but I almost rather see Will Benson again.
Speaker 3 (01:52:07):
Well, I think you know we talked about this when
when they caught up Jacob Hurdabes the other day, Will
Benson went to Louisville and hit Jacob Hurdabies has been
in Louisville and wasn't hitting.
Speaker 9 (01:52:20):
One in Louisville.
Speaker 14 (01:52:21):
Mo.
Speaker 9 (01:52:22):
I mean, if you can't hit two hundred and triple A,
he's certainly not going to hit two hundred in.
Speaker 3 (01:52:27):
The major leagues, right, I mean so to me, and
I mean, would I expect Will Benson to show up
and put up Hall of Fame numbers? No, but just
based on the small amount of success Will had at
the major league level and what he was doing in Louisville.
If you say to me, you can have Will Benson
for twenty big league games or Jacob hurdabees, at least
from an offensive perspective, I know I'd put my money
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on Will Benson.
Speaker 9 (01:52:51):
Yeah, I mean I and mo. I think everyone was counting.
You know, the biggest offseason move was they got Terry Francona. Well,
I gotta tell you the manager is not going to
win you twenty five games with slubs. I'm not gonna
add twenty five additional wins. I mean everyone thought David
Bell was an idiot, including me. Is you know from
the times I've thought to you? But I mean, I
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don't know that the Reds would have been any worse
off than nineteen and nineteen with David Bell managing.
Speaker 4 (01:53:16):
Do you No? No, I really don't.
Speaker 3 (01:53:22):
I think the win loss record with pretty much any
manager this season would have been largely the same. I
have not watched the Reds on a nightly basis, thinking
to myself, Terry Francona has earned them this win. Now,
I really haven't thought, like, man, he's earned them this loss.
I'm a little bit more forgiving than some when it
comes to, you know, bringing in the right picture. I
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think over the course of a season, every manager is
going to get that stuff right and wrong. I just
I focused when David Bell was the manager, I focused
more on the players they had and the deficiencies that
had to work through, and I do the same with
Terry Francona.
Speaker 9 (01:53:58):
Yeah, I mean they one run losses are still the same.
You mean, the number of games they've lost by one
run this year the same as they you know, was
with David Bell. So I mean for everyone that thought
that Francona was going to magically put magic powers on
those one run defeats, it hasn't happened.
Speaker 3 (01:54:16):
Yeah, they're four and six, four and six and oh
and three and extra innings, and you know again, I
I certainly haven't watched.
Speaker 4 (01:54:24):
I haven't watched.
Speaker 9 (01:54:26):
The ghost Runner should be able to score, and we
when we we haven't scored a ghost Runner in three games.
And I think you and I know from back when
we used to play with our friends. That ghost Runner
was always getting knocked and when when you got a
ghost Runner on base, you were getting them.
Speaker 3 (01:54:39):
In Uh correct, I'm thinking of the three x runing games.
The first one was the one in San Francisco, they
did not score them. The other one was the game
the other night in Atlanta with the three, four and
five hitters coming up, they did not score them. And
then the other one was that game in Seattle that
they blew in the ninth inning and they didn't score
the magic Runner. They're o for the magic Runner, which
is to hard to do.
Speaker 9 (01:55:02):
I know, mom, would I feel like you know. I've
watched the extra ending games just on Major League Baseball
Network that it goes back and forth. The team scores
in the top of the ending, and then the team
either scores one or two in the bottom half. These
games keep going. The ghost Runner never gets stranded. We're
very good at stranding that ghost Runner. Yeah, we're expert.
Speaker 3 (01:55:24):
We're Oh, we're oero for three this season with the
ghost Runner. I hadn't thought about that, Ron. Thank you.
Speaker 9 (01:55:30):
I'm out take care of my friend.
Speaker 3 (01:55:32):
I appreciate the phone call, and I I share the
frustration five point three, seven, four nine, fifteen thirty uh
POL Questions number one about Trey Hendrickson. Do you believe
that Trey Hendrickson will sit out regular season games and
give up the money that comes with them if he
doesn't get.
Speaker 4 (01:55:46):
A new contract.
Speaker 3 (01:55:47):
Seventy six point six percent of you say no, So
we we read the story before. Jeremy Fowler of ESPN
rights that his read on the Trey Hendrickson situation currently
is that he has no interest. Trey does in playing
on his sixteen million dollar salary in twenty fifteen. That's
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Jeremy Fowler, who writes verbatim here, My read on the
situation is that Hendrickson is convicted enough to stay away
from the team, having no interest in playing on his
scheduled sixteen million dollar salary in twenty twenty five. Jeremy
Fowler may be right, he may be wrong. I tend
to believe a guy like that is very well sourced.
My guess is he's getting that information from someone close
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to Tray Hendrickson. Heck, for all I know, maybe Tray himself.
You and I both know that historically the Bengals don't
exactly cater to ultimatums. They don't let you push them
into a corner. They don't let you push them around.
They don't cave to public opinion. They're not that interested
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in playing a game of chicken with you. And if
they do, they'll win it because they'll watch you blink first. Uh,
they they don't. They don't. They don't do what you
want them to do. If you come to them with
an ultimatum, you want to hold out, go ahead and
hold out. You want to hold in, go ahead and
hold in. You wanna threaten to not play in the
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regular season, threaten to not play in the regular season.
You want to retire If we don't do what you want,
bro go ahead and retire. This is not what the
Bengals do. And so I think this is a fascinating
dynamic here. The draft is coming gone. They haven't traded
Trey Hendrickson. He's done the Dog and Pony Show where
he sees what else is out there. They didn't trade
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Trey Hendrickson. So now it's do they get a deal
done between now and the start of the regular season,
And if they don't, does Trey sit out Week one?
And if he sits out week one, does he sit
out week two. That's that's the question right now, because
I find it hard to believe, and man, I could
be dead wrong about this, that suddenly the Bengals are
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gonna have a change of heart and go hill k Trey.
Speaker 4 (01:58:00):
I will give you what you want.
Speaker 3 (01:58:02):
I would tell Trey Hendrickson quite simply, dude, forget your agent,
forget uh leaking things to the media, forget having your
agent talk to reporters. Make one phone call. Call Joe Burrow,
because I think Joe Burrow has more sway than any
athlete in the history of Cincinnati sports. He got the
Bengals to change their position regarding t Higgins. If you're
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Trey Hendrickson, make that phone call Joe. Will you do
me a solid? How about this?
Speaker 4 (01:58:30):
Joe?
Speaker 3 (01:58:30):
Can you send a social media post for me? I'll
pay you for it and just put out there we
need to lock in Trey Hendrickson or Joe the first
time you're in front of microphones, whether it be during
OTAs or voluntary workouts, or maybe he goes in another podcast,
maybe he goes to another gala and wears a suit
and somebody asks him for a question or ask him
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for a minute and they ask him about Trey Hendrickson
in some way, shape or form, Can Joe publicly make
it known, Yes, we have to sign Trey Hendrickson long term.
We have to pay him now, we have to give
him something closer to what he wants.
Speaker 4 (01:59:07):
He is a need.
Speaker 3 (01:59:09):
In the absence of that, what's going to change for Trey.
The only athlete I've ever seen, the only Bengals player
any of us have ever seen take the Bengals and
move them in one direction when they were going in
another direction, is Joe Burrow.
Speaker 4 (01:59:26):
So make that phone call like that would be the advice.
Speaker 3 (01:59:29):
Trey, not your agent, not your family, not your representatives.
Forget other outlets, forget going on Pat McAfee, forget leaking
things to reporters.
Speaker 4 (01:59:40):
Call Joe Burrow.
Speaker 3 (01:59:42):
Because the only way this changes is if Joe Burrow
comes out and says emphatically. He's mentioned Trey before, He's
mentioned Trey in connection to t Higgins. But let's be honest,
Joe Burrow talked more about t Higgins than he did
anybody else. He mentioned Mike Kasicki, he's mentioned Trey Hendrickson. Joe, Oh,
can you speak specifically and solely about me, just about me,
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no other player, just about me, and use words like need,
which is the word.
Speaker 4 (02:00:10):
You use in talking about t Higgins.
Speaker 3 (02:00:14):
Make that phone call, Tray if you want this done,
if you don't want to have to sit out, if
you don't want to have to engage the Bengals who
never blink in a staring contest.
Speaker 4 (02:00:24):
There's only one way.
Speaker 3 (02:00:25):
You're gonna get what you want, and that's by getting
number nine to move things around for you and change
the Bengals position. It's happened before. If you're a Trey,
do you believe Joe will do for you what he
did for Tea Trey? Make the phone call. We are done,
not permanently. We're back tomorrow at three oh five. Thanks
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