7/31/25 - The Mo Egger Radio Show w/ Chad Brednel - Mo Egger

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
No one covers the Bengals like ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati's
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Speaker 2 (00:25):
Here we go, The Mowager Show, Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen thirty.
Chad Brenda in for Mowagar today. Were you all right, Terre?
What's happening in there? Sorry? Distracted? We're done. I mean

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we're following the Hall of Fame announcement of Tony Pike,
and we're already off to a rough start, like a
big shoes to Phil. Obviously a celebratory day here in
the offices.

Speaker 1 (00:59):
Covers like ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati's sports station.

Speaker 2 (01:08):
All right, we're starting over, fresh start. I like it.
I like it. Snapping clear, Terran, snapping clear. Welcome in.
It's the Moeggers Show, Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen thirty. I'm Jaed
Brenda filling in for mo Eggar today, and boy do

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we have a lot to get to. Thank you for
choosing me. And Moe is enjoying a nice four day
weekend on a boat somewhere on a boat somewhere on

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a boat. Mother Trucker. Uh yeah, I'm in today. I
believe you said what Tarin James Rapine in tomorrow yep.
So that that'll get you through the rest of the
week here on the Mo Eggers Show. And it's exciting
to be here. I did this. This worked out perfectly
for the fine folks here at Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen thirty

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because I've been out at Camp Hire Ground covering the
Bearcats all week. Today was their first off day. So
I slide in here and we're going to try to
get to some some Bearcats football and basketball talk today,
but there is there is a lot going on. I
do want to clear up a report that is out

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there that we've been talking about on Bearcat Journal dot
com all day today. There's a report that Cincinnati has
added six to seven wing Jordi Rodriguez of Spain. My
understanding is they are working to add six seven wing
Jordie Rodriguez of Spain, but that it is not it's

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not a done deal yet. And and some of that
is when you're dealing with international kids, you have to
work in unison with the club because international basketball is
much different than American high school basketball. If you're really
good and you get picked up at a young age

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or identified at a young age, you go into their
their professional club system. Which the clubs then have lower
level teams that the amateurs play on, and Rodriguez played for.
If you're familiar with soccer, he's affiliated with Hooven Tos,

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the basketball version of Hooven Tuos, not the soccer version
of Hooven Tuos. But you gotta work with them. You've
gotta you know, you've got to make sure all your
tea's are dotted, your eyes are crossed in order to
make sure that everything's done. So that's not all the
way across finish line yet. I do think there's a

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pretty good chance of happening that Jordie Rodriguez joins the
Bearcat roster for this coming season, but it is, uh,
it is not all the way home. So I just
wanted to get that out there that it's definitely something
I'm monitoring. It's definitely something that that you see is

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very interested in doing from everything I have heard, but
not quite done yet. So we'll continue to monitor that
on Bearcat journal dot com. But uh, Bengals at a
tight end, Noah fan add a weapon, another weapon to
their offensive arsenal around Joe Burrow, I know there's you know,

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some some concern with adding fant but ultimately, at the
end of the day, this is just a another piece
for Joe Burrow to use to make this offense as
unguardable as possible. And he's very talented and he's a
guy that when you pair him with Mike Gasecki, who's

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more of a more of a wide receiver than he
is a tight end. Now you're you're talking about some
additional twelve personnel. You're talking about some different things you
can do out of run looks that can keep a
defense honest and allow you know, guys to get open
on the outside, play action game. So I see nothing

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wrong with it. I see it as the Bengals had
a chance to make their team better today than it
was yesterday. I think Noah Fan does that, So kudos
to them. And I've seen a lot of people, well
they needed offensive line, well they needed this well they
that That doesn't mean you ignore the ability to get better.
If it presents itself. Noah Fan becomes available and is

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interested in coming to Cincinnati, you don't say, well, you
know we were looking for offensive line. We know you
could help us, we know you'd make us better. But
you're not a guard, so you're not a right guard,
So we're going to pass. That's not it's not how
this really works. So a welcome edition for the Bengals.

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The Reds avoid the sweep yesterday. They take one of
three from the Dodgers, and it was needed. It was necessary.
Spencer Steer great at bat in the bottom of the eighth,
hits what looked like a home run and then look
like a home run that was going to be robbed

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with the bases loaded, the ball comes with two on,
the ball comes back into play, Steer gets a triple.
Reds go up four too. They eventually win five to
two and continue their streak of not being swept all season.
I still still think it's a little concerning that they

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haven't been swept all year and they're still hovering in
that dreaded five hundred range at fifty seven and fifty two.
But you take it, and you take it, especially because
you go into play tonight with Andrew Abbott on the mound.
He is eight and one with a two to nine ERA,

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and that should give the Reds a decided advantage as
he faces Carlos Carrasco. Carrasco is two and two with
a five ninety one ERA. He has started eight games,
he played, pitched an eight game, started six for the
Braves this year. So a chance for the Reds offense

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to do a little bit of damage tonight and to
do a little bit of damage with Andrew Abbott on
the mound activity last night for the Reds as they
go out yesterday afternoon, they go out and get key
Brian Hayes from the Pirates third baseman, one of the
best third basemen in baseball, somebody that people consider maybe

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the best defender in the sport. But he is not
a guy that hits the ball well. He is not
a guy that is going to help the Reds struggling offense.
So I think when you look at the Cabrian Hayes addition,

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it is okay. I don't have any problem with it.
If by the time we get to the trade deadline
at six o'clock today, the Reds have added a fairly
significant bat. We have seen how many times this year
this team has scored zero, won two runs a lot.

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It's been a significant portion of the season that they
have struggled to produce offense. And adding a guy who's
slugging below Santiago Espinal, think how much frustration there is.
Think how much frustration there was Tuesday night when Santiago

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Espinal hit with the bases loaded for Jake Frailey. You're
adding a guy offensively that is going to give you
roughly about as much as Santiago espinol and at least
with Espinal, he's a guy that you know he's going
to hit to sixty two seventy. Cabrian Hayes is in
the two thirty two forty range, So a guy that

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he and his on base percentage is under three hundred,
so in a vacuum. I don't love the trade. I
don't love the trade because I value defense absolutely, and
the Reds defense has been shaky. I think that's fair
to say. At times they've been very good. When they've

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been good, the team has won a lot. When the
defense has faltered, this team has has not been good enough.
So when you look at the addition of Hayes, I
think it's easy to say, Okay, this guy is going
to improve an area of the game that has not

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been consistently reliable this season for the Reds and has
been a thorn in their side. In that light, I
don't mind it, but we all know we all know
watching this team play, following this team throughout, you know what,

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one hundred and one hundred and nine games. This will
be their one hundred and tenth game tonight. There's not
enough offense and adding a guy that does nothing to
improve your offense. And we're not even going to get
into the conversation about his chronic back problems. We'll set

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that aside for now. When his back stars bother him,
we'll talk about it. But for right now, just strictly,
does Cabrian Hayes make the Reds more of a threat
to get into the playoffs and do damage when they
get there? I don't necessarily think so, unless unless we

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find out before six o'clock or we find out at
some point today that they went out and they did
something to address the issue of a right handed bat
that can hit somewhere near the middle of the lineup.
Because I don't mind it. I don't mind the Hayes trade.

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If there's more, two do it that adds offense to
this team. If there's not more to it, then sure
you've gotten better on defense at an important position, but
you've also gotten worse offensively, because now that would put

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Santiago Espinal in a primary bench roll, and we've seen
what that looks like when you need him to come
up to the plate in important situations. And guess what,
if you've got Cabrian Hayes, you don't need Santiago Espinal

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as a defensive replacement laden games, not at third base
at least. So it's an incomplete for me on the
Hayes trade until we find out is this team done
or are they still pushing the other concern learning thing
Cabrian Hayes seven million dollar salary. According to Nick Krawl,

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they kind of had to include Taylor Rodgers in that
trade to even out the salary. If this team that's
overall payroll, it's one hundred and twenty something million. They're
active payroll right right now, they're active payroll for this
roster is seventy seven million dollars. If you can't add

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seven million dollars, if you have to move a guy
that's been a decent part of your bullpen is Hera's
under three. If you have to move Taylor Rogers just
to make the money line up, that's a terrifying thought

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as a Reds fan. But the Reds weren't done. Uh,
this was kind of a wild one to me. The
Reds add Zach Lttel from the race. Zach Lyttel, if
you didn't follow along, pitched last night for the Rays
against the Yankees, and essentially as soon as the final

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out was recorded, it was made public that Lttel was
coming to Cincinnati. I like the move, perfectly fine with
the move. It allows them, even though I think he's
been pitching well of late, allows them to move Nick
Martinez into that Swiss army knife out of the bullpen.

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It also allows you in a situation where Hunter Green
comes back and is healthy and ready to go, now
maybe you can also move Chase Burns into one of
those roles in the bullpen where you've got Santian in
the eighth, you've got Emelia Pagan in the ninth, and
now you've got not only Nick Martinez, but you've got

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a bullpen arm behind him that can really do damage
as well. So we have a lot to get to
uh Richard Skinner joining us at four twenty, Klay Snowden
from Just Baseball joining us at five twenty, So a
lot to discuss, a lot of Reds, a lot of Bengals.

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We try to work in some Bearcats. Phone lines are
going to be open most of the day. Five one, three, seven, four, nine,
fifteen thirty. We'll talk to Tony Pike three forty five,
four forty five, and five forty five for camp updates,
and uh, it's going to be a busy show, so
let's get to it. We'll be back right after this.
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gotta we gotta keep it moving to stay on the
clock here so Terran doesn't get mad at me. Mike
in La, what's up, Mike, Mike, Mike, We'll come back
to Mike. Mister on the line, Misterrace, what's up?

Speaker 5 (17:06):
What's up with your homie, big homie, mister CMB man.
I see we got KB so I mean, I meant
to say KB toys, but we got KB. H is
our Barking Basement kV toys knockoffs, the third Basement, and
I'm happy to say that. I guess we say it's
some Nichols and dimes, and we may do a couple

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or something like that, a cup of water parents and
their kids out for the month of August, so hopefully
we can pay for its salary, and we might get
a couple more barking basement refread arms or something like that.
What's that page over Brown the third doing what about that?

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Because I know it's dead pitch for the Reds. He
was gonna pitch on the scaff team. The sun pitched
in someplace, and I guess by now there should be
a third because if there was a second, and has
got to be a third, and because you're such a
big kind of sort of music and we played. Mama said,
knock you out.

Speaker 1 (18:07):
Man.

Speaker 5 (18:08):
Did you enjoy the performance by l Kouj at the
music fest last weekend?

Speaker 2 (18:14):
I did not get to see it. I was busy.
Last weekend was a dad weekend. Is my daughter's fifteenth birthday,
so I had to I had to take her Friday
morning to get her tempts. So she is driving. I
think she might be in the car right now with
my dad driving the volleyball practice, listening to this. So
if you're on the road anywhere near Independence, Kentucky, be careful.

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Kelsey's on the road.

Speaker 5 (18:39):
I just left Kentucky. I just left Kentucky. So you're
lucky that's left Kentucky. So I'm gonna have to look
or do double looks to my left and tomorrow right.
But I will keep that in mind for future times
around this time period.

Speaker 2 (19:00):
Yeah, but I mean I would love to have seen
ll I love l.

Speaker 5 (19:04):
Oh.

Speaker 2 (19:05):
Yeah, remember when he remember when he started doing the
soft stuff?

Speaker 5 (19:11):
Man, Hey, shoot what missus A was very happy it was.
He was happy about that and which led to a
happy mister A.

Speaker 2 (19:22):
R right.

Speaker 5 (19:23):
This is a family, family, family friendly.

Speaker 2 (19:26):
Program with love in the background. Or I need around away, girl,
around away.

Speaker 5 (19:39):
But yeah, man, the music fest was live.

Speaker 6 (19:41):
Man.

Speaker 5 (19:42):
Now hopefully our our sports teams can can stay alive
and be live uh over the next few weeks to
make our programming and cincin that even more relevant all
the way to maybe like February or March, and hopefully
we have a major March. Man. And if we had,
like it would be it would be great to have Cincinnati, Xavier, Miami,

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NKU all tournament talk.

Speaker 2 (20:11):
I mean, I'm down with you see NKU and Miami,
that other school that you said.

Speaker 5 (20:16):
Whatever, Hey, hey, I'm just I'm just giving them this.
I mean, I'd like them to make the tournament. I
want them to get blown out by forty five when
they played a barricade Loo.

Speaker 2 (20:30):
Hall of Fame. Today, we're not talking about that other
school in town. Hey, I mean.

Speaker 5 (20:38):
You have to tell sympathy to the school that's got
a high school as well in town. So I mean
sometimes sympathy votes or sympathy votes. But yes, they don't
field a football team anymore. So unfortunately Tony did not
get to pike them to the bench.

Speaker 2 (21:00):
All right, Ace, I got a run. I'm up against it.
I forgot that. Uh we're in football season and uh,
Terran's job is a lot more difficult at this time
of year.

Speaker 5 (21:11):
Understandable, sir, appreciate it.

Speaker 2 (21:15):
Thanks mister as definitely. All right, Terren. Shall we break now,
Tarran and come back and try to get these Yeah, okay,
let's take a break. We'll be back more after this.
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All right, let's keep it rolling Meleggers show. Since that
he's ESPN fifteen thirty, get as many of these phone
calls in as we can before we uh go to Tony
Pike for his first camp report of the show. Mike
in La are you Are you there now, Mike?

Speaker 8 (22:30):
Mike, Yeah, Mike, be sorry, that's all right, apology.

Speaker 2 (22:33):
That's all right. I'm fantastic. How about you, brother, I'm
hanging man.

Speaker 8 (22:40):
I'm doing my best to hang in there.

Speaker 5 (22:41):
That's all we can do, right.

Speaker 2 (22:43):
All you can do, brother, all you can do?

Speaker 8 (22:46):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (22:48):
Yeah?

Speaker 9 (22:50):
Nice, nice acquisition, Brett.

Speaker 2 (22:53):
I mean I don't mind legitimately, Mike, if it's part
of something like if there's something something else coming, I
don't hate it. But if that's it, and that's what
you added to a team that desperately needed offense, what
are we doing?

Speaker 8 (23:10):
Typically third basement and first basement considered power guys and
make make some shit out stuff. I'm sorry, sorry, dance, sorry,
make some stuff happen. So it's you know, fine, he's
a great third basement. That's terrific. You know, I don't
really know what much is going to do. And I'm
looking at the Phillies, I'm looking at the Mets, I'm

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looking at the Mariners, I'm looking at the Blue Jays.
These teams are making stuff happen. Dude, Yeah, and what
are we doing? Shit, what are we doing?

Speaker 2 (23:41):
But we're we're watching. I mean, we're we're adding a
guy that that's great defensively but does nothing to help.
I mean, I like the Lattel move. I think that
you get another Swiss army knife type guy in that bullpen.
It allows you to use Martinez and maybe what is
a more natural role for him, although I think he's
been pretty good of Like, it gives you the chance

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when Hunter comes back, and now maybe you can use
Chase s Burns in the bullpen and give you an
electric arm that you can use in a six or
seventh inning situation. Like I like that move, and I
don't hate Hayes as long as that's not it. That
can't be it. We got until six o'clock, Mike, they're
on the clock two hours and twenty minutes. Dang it.

Speaker 8 (24:25):
That's exactly right. That's what you got down too. And
as far as pictures go, there ain't many starting pitches.
Well that that that that that market.

Speaker 2 (24:33):
Wore out right now and they got a decent one.

Speaker 8 (24:36):
That's not what we really need. But I was talking
to when you, I gotta ask you this. When you
were a kid, did you have baseball cards? Oh?

Speaker 2 (24:47):
Yeah, tons of them, hundreds of them, thousands of them.

Speaker 8 (24:51):
I can remember coming in from playing whip fotball in
the backyard, either by myself or with my buddies, right, yeah, woot.
The wall was a big deal in the sixties, playing
with fletball and then coming in and trading and trading
baseball cards. And then there was this little game that
you could play. They had these little discs, paper disc
that had all these Hall of Famers' names on them,

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and you put the disc on the little wheel and
then spin the stow. Yeah, it was so cool. Stuff
like that was just so much fun. And I don't
know that kids do that kind of stuff today at all.
I just wanted to ask you what you do because Mo,
I don't know what's mo forty something?

Speaker 2 (25:31):
Mo was two weeks older than me. Yeah, so exactly
two weeks older than me.

Speaker 8 (25:37):
You guys got WHI did you guys play whiffleball?

Speaker 2 (25:40):
Mike? We built a whiffle ball field of my neighbor's
backyard with a wall and a base path, and uh yeah,
and then the lot that we built it in, we
got it up. We played there for about a month,
and then somebody bought the lot and built a house
on it. So all that work we put in was
for nothing, brought.

Speaker 5 (26:01):
You know what?

Speaker 8 (26:02):
Not fair?

Speaker 2 (26:03):
I agree?

Speaker 8 (26:05):
Are the Cats? So what?

Speaker 6 (26:06):
What?

Speaker 8 (26:06):
What's the what? If you had to pick a record
right now for the Cats preseason football? What would you
put it at?

Speaker 2 (26:12):
Seven five? But if they don't win at Arrowhead, my
confidence level goes down quite a bit. Got to go
beat Nebraska in uh four weeks from tonight.

Speaker 8 (26:25):
Nebraska's pretty star, pretty star, A solid team, right.

Speaker 2 (26:30):
I mean I haven't really won anything, you know since uh,
since you were a much younger strapping buck.

Speaker 8 (26:37):
Mike, ye to Osbourne as the head coat, right.

Speaker 2 (26:41):
So, I mean Solis did a pretty good job there.
But you know, Matt Rules built a decent team. I
think these two teams are probably pretty close to each other.
It's going to be a Nebraska home game essentially, even
though it's an Arrowhead stadium. The question will be, you know,
how how much much better is the defense? Can they

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get a pass rush? And are the wide receivers that
you see caple capable of doing damage? We'll see, all right, Mike,
I am up against it. Brother, I gotta I gotta
get to Tony. He's a Hall of Famer today. We
gotta we gotta get to him one quick.

Speaker 8 (27:17):
When you get to it later, what other guys went
into the Hall of Fame? If anybody thanks you.

Speaker 2 (27:21):
They haven't announced it yet. Well know, Monday, thanks for what?
All right? Thanks Mike? All right, tarn I guess we
got to take a break. When we come back, we'll
talk to Tony Pike for his first camp report of
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Speaker 2 (28:36):
Put an entrance, I mean, let's welcome in the.

Speaker 11 (28:53):
Hall of Famer Tony Hi, I.

Speaker 2 (29:04):
Mean, this is epic. What an entrance? This is?

Speaker 5 (29:07):
Man?

Speaker 12 (29:08):
That after my guy Taren Bland for going with the
Roman Reigns intro music.

Speaker 5 (29:13):
This is that.

Speaker 12 (29:14):
After Karen Man.

Speaker 2 (29:16):
How was my announcer voice? I get that right? Sound
right there? I'm not Michael Buffer, but no I don't.

Speaker 12 (29:22):
I don't think you're there yet, but I think you're close.
But it's it's really Chad the thought that counts, and
you know, in the in the moments that we were
able to share in the hallway where you may not
have said Tony pick or you know, mentioned the ring
of honor reference. I appreciate you putting in the leads
to the effort here.

Speaker 2 (29:40):
Look, Tony, you know somebody there's a lot of adoration
for Tony Pike today. Somebody's just got to make sure
that you're on you stay on Cloud nine. We don't
want you on Cloud ten or eleven. Just right there
on nine.

Speaker 12 (29:55):
I want to know a couple of things, Chad. I
want to know what happens to the fifty talk bocks.
We didn't get to play today. Who's whose folks? Messages
are not going to go unhurt? Appreciate all of them? Now,
that might be a thing. Yes, uh, And I did
think this appropriate. I was I was one hundred years
and years ago to get to go into the Reading

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Hall of Fame. Yeah, very preceidious hall of fame. But
when I went into that, it just felt like my
dad kind of wrote in on my coattails, and this
this is a hall of fame where he's not going
to be able to ride in on the coattails.

Speaker 5 (30:32):
So there's that too.

Speaker 2 (30:33):
I mean, I'm sure it feels great. I've always wondered,
like you see these these Hall of Fame surprise announcements,
at what was was? It? Was it when your wife
and kids started walking in? Is that when you were like,
wait a minute?

Speaker 12 (30:50):
Well originally, and it's funny because I got home and
my wife told me she said, I was looking at
your face when when John Kenningham started talking, I was
almost wondering, like I say something I shouldn't have said.

Speaker 2 (31:03):
Have you were first?

Speaker 12 (31:06):
Have I bad talked to bearcats in a way because
he was like, you know, Tony, I want to talk
about something else.

Speaker 8 (31:10):
I'm like, oh boy, what have I said recently?

Speaker 12 (31:14):
But yes, once he said that, and then for me
seeing my wife and our oldest son coming in, that
to me was was the moment that I lost it
a little bit. But again, I don't know how I
didn't pick up on things. I've been doing training camp
coverage in Meredith. She's never asked me that. He's like, hey,

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I want to come down to training camp tomorrow. Like
I didn't even think anything of that. I didn't think
anything of John Tunningham was randomly going to be a
Bengals training camp because Ded Ritter was there and I
thought that made sense. So there's a lot of pieces
to the puzzle that I'm retroactively going back and looking at.
But in the moment in time, the I would say

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the plan could not have played out any better for
those involved.

Speaker 2 (31:59):
Except for me, it looked awesome. It's it's it's very cool.

Speaker 8 (32:03):
I was.

Speaker 2 (32:04):
I was a young upcoming member of the media during
those years, and man, it was somebody said today, somebody,
one of the talkbacks said, uh, thanks Tony for making
Cincinnati football cool again, and I wanted to let that
person know that was not the case. It was never cool.

(32:26):
Cincinnati football was never cool until then, and Tony made
Cincinnati football cool for the first time.

Speaker 12 (32:35):
The cool part about making Cincinnati football cool was growing up.
When I went to games, I could sit wherever I
wanted to. Literally, we would walk in. I would go
with my grandpa. We'd walk in and he'd be like, Hey,
meet me back here in the fourth quarter, and you
could sit anywhere, including the bench.

Speaker 2 (32:52):
You could sit on the bench.

Speaker 12 (32:55):
You knew whatever you wanted to. But you know that
that for me and I've had a chance. You talked
to so many former players and coaches have reached out.
You know, I told Armand today because Armand reached out
and I said, man, it's I'm not having today. There's
no tense I'm having today if you're not around. So
in a situation like this, you you're thankful, you know.

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For me, it's I've been a diehard barcout my whole life.
So there's from an honoring, honoring standpoint, there's nothing cooler
you can do. But it also makes you appreciate, you know,
the work that went into it personally, and and what
a lot of people put into you as well. With
my family and friends growing up. But man, I was
surrounded by so many, so many talented teammates that made

(33:39):
my job really easy at the end of the day.

Speaker 2 (33:40):
Yeah, all you had to do was start like one
yard and Marty would get you a touchdown.

Speaker 12 (33:45):
Marty's gonna give me some yards after the catch I had.
I had the wizard, dominant Goodman who as solid as
they come, armand Benz, I mean, the Isaiah Pede in
the backfield, and Sobel and Ramsey the year before Bones Barnett.
I just there were so many, you know, Ben Goadoley
at tight end.

Speaker 5 (34:05):
We just it was it was so much fun.

Speaker 12 (34:08):
I haven't had a chance to reach out to Bob
Diaco yet and thank him. I know he's busy with
North Carolina football and being on the coaching staff of
Bill Belichick. But a lot of what I was able
to do I think to Bob Diako sometimes too.

Speaker 2 (34:23):
And Brian Kelly.

Speaker 12 (34:26):
Yes, of course, that was the line of the day.
I think Austin now that he said, you know, along
with your family. Brian Kelly was here, but right before
the announcement was.

Speaker 2 (34:35):
Made, give me like one sentence, Give me one sentence
on the Bengals, uh.

Speaker 12 (34:43):
The secondary one the day today, DJ Turner was running
with the threes yesterday because he had been beaten so
much during camp. He had five pass breakups. Today had
an awesome bounce back day and another good day for
the defense.

Speaker 2 (34:54):
Tony, thank you, congratulations and we'll talk.

Speaker 8 (34:58):
So thank you, Jam.

Speaker 2 (35:00):
I can't wait, all right, Thanks Tom, There you go,
take a break more after this.

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(35:54):
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We've got Tony Pike's camp report. We also have Brenneman
and Jones on baseball. So I'm gonna go ahead and
try to get everybody off the phone from the phone
lines so that they're not on hold forever because I
hate having people on hold. So that means Mark and

(36:15):
Florence is up. Mark, how the heck are you?

Speaker 7 (36:19):
Oh man, I'm good now talking to Chad Brenda to.

Speaker 5 (36:24):
Walk up to day.

Speaker 7 (36:25):
Yeah, I'm disappointed with the Rids. I thought we was
gonna get a bat. What was most disappointing in me
is it doesn't look like Seattle gave up a whole
lot for.

Speaker 2 (36:40):
They didn't give up a top ten prospect. That's concerning.

Speaker 7 (36:43):
Yes, Yeah, so it's like, what were they what was
the Reds? What would it had took for the Reds
to get him? I mean he he was exactly what
they needed. And you give me this haze guy.

Speaker 8 (36:58):
This guy can't hit.

Speaker 2 (37:00):
Yeah, So I'm not as infatuated with with getting Swore
as back, maybe as as some I love Gino. I
think Geno is a great player. He's a two month guy.
It would be it would be a move strictly for
the end of this year. What we don't know, Marcus,
we don't know what they We know what they asked

(37:22):
for from Seattle. We don't know what they asked for
from the Rets. And and maybe it was the guy
that the Scouts had targeted for the Reds is a
guy that the Reds weren't necessarily willing to get rid of. Im.
I'm with you, or at least with the notion that
like hoarding prospects is silly, especially when you've got a

(37:45):
chance to make a run at things. They've hoarded prospects
for too long and far too long. How many times
are we sitting here watching a four A guy Mark
where Brandon Larson and sticks in my brain and it
will never be erased as a guy that they they
deemed untouchable. And then the problem was he couldn't touch

(38:08):
a major league pitcher.

Speaker 7 (38:10):
Okay, and got it, I'll remember him.

Speaker 8 (38:14):
Could they have have brought up the Sal Stuart guy?

Speaker 2 (38:18):
I mean, that's the other interesting thing is is with
this move because Cabrian Hayes is signed through the end
of the decade. That does kind of block South Stewart.
So what's the plan for Stuart? Like, you're not gonna
you You brought Hayes here to be your defensive ace
at third base. So what's the plan for Stuart now? Like,

(38:42):
where where does he fit into the picture? Because now
you've brought somebody in that that that covers him at
third base. So that's that's a bit of the head
scratching part. I'm not gonna I'm not gonna kill them
on this trade yet, Mark, until six o'clock. If they
do not go out and get a bat, and Cabrian

(39:02):
Hayes is their answer for whatever they think ails them
that doesn't involve the pitching staff, then they're tone deaff
Then then they don't have any business running a serious
baseball operation that says they want to contend for championships
because it is blatantly obvious they need a bat. Go

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get a bat.

Speaker 7 (39:24):
Okay, so you would agree that their front office needs
all need to be fired.

Speaker 2 (39:32):
I'll let you know. It's six h five.

Speaker 7 (39:34):
Mark, Okay, Okay, got it, I got it, got it?

Speaker 8 (39:39):
You know, all right?

Speaker 2 (39:40):
All right? I appreciate you, Mark, thanks for the call.
I'm straight down the middle on that. I don't mind
going and getting a slick, defensive minded fielder. I don't
love it at third base because that's supposed to be
a power an RBI position. That's supposed to be a

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guy that's got some pop. This guy doesn't have it
in a small sample size. It's got to include something else.
It can't just be our one move was a guy
that's slugging five sixty seven or whatever it is or

(40:22):
ops is five to sixty seven. That's not good enough.
That's not Yeah, great, the defense is better, but this
team's problem is hitting his guys that can consistently come
up in the middle of the lineup and drive in
runs and be a factor on a daily basis. And

(40:45):
if they don't get that, then the deadline was a failure.
To me. I don't care how good he could be
Brooks Robinson. I don't care how good he is on
defense if he can't hit a lick Dick and Dayton.
How are you, my friend?

Speaker 13 (41:01):
Hey?

Speaker 9 (41:01):
Ched, good time?

Speaker 2 (41:03):
Not time on, buddy, I'm doing good.

Speaker 9 (41:07):
I'm telling you Ched. We can say, as I told
Austin last week. I think the Reds are doing pretty
good so far. You know, I'm pretty happy with them.

Speaker 2 (41:17):
I mean, they're five games over, Dick. They're they're fine. Yeah,
They're fine, they.

Speaker 9 (41:21):
Are Yeah, but they're doing it. And I got to
ask you another question, you know, I saw. I haven't
got the schedule yet, but I know if Burrow and
Chase get this together, I know the first six games
are gonna be tough. We I think can get there
this year, but we've got to win. Do you think
it's going to be a good season y'or bad season?

Speaker 6 (41:43):
Jed?

Speaker 2 (41:46):
So far, the reports on the defense have been positive.
And if this can be a top twenty defense, I
think the Bengals are as good as anybody in football.
And if it can't be a top twenty defense, then
you're just relying too heavily on having to win games
forty three, forty two, and eventually you're gonna have a

(42:10):
day where you're not at the bat at your best
because if you're I mean some of those games last year, Dick,
the other team didn't punt. I know they didn't punt.
They scored on every possession, or we're in position every
possession that can't happen again.

Speaker 9 (42:25):
And they can't miss the field goals this year either
they've mitched to any last year.

Speaker 2 (42:30):
Right, Well, yeah, if the other team is scoring every possession,
you better get some points on the board or else
you're not gonna be able to catch up.

Speaker 5 (42:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (42:40):
Well, good tapping to you, Chad, appreciated, Dick, thank you
have a good one.

Speaker 9 (42:43):
Bye bye bye.

Speaker 2 (42:47):
I mean, can the defense be middle of the pack?
That's you know, that's not groundbreaking. That's what everybody's been
talking about. Are they good enough to be top twenty?
I don't even need top fifteen? And what the the
Luanna Roumo defense that the Super Bowl year they were
what sixteen, fifteen, seventeen somewhere in there. Don't have to

(43:11):
be great, just have to provide some resistance, which last
year's team did not do. And that's the reason they
were nine to eight instead of you know, twelve and
seven or whatever, twelve and five. Yeah, twelve and five,
seventeen games. That's that's ultimately. I look, I don't have

(43:36):
any question that as long as you know, knock on wood,
as long as everybody stays relatively healthy, this should be
the best offense in the NFL. Even with questions on
the offensive line. There have been questions on the offensive
line since Joe Burrow arrived in town. I don't think

(44:00):
this front office has done a good job answering those questions.
And still Joe Burrow has been elite, So this offense
is not the concern. Can the defense get some stops?
I agree with Dick. Can they kick some field goals?

(44:23):
Can McPherson bounce back and have an elite season as
your kicker so that on those drives where you stall
out at the forty, he walks up there, bangs through
a fifty seven yard field goal and you get three
points off a drive that didn't really get going. And

(44:46):
you turn a failed drive or a semi successful drive
into points that didn't happen enough last year. The defense
wasn't good enough last year, and as there is at
Joe Burrow was incredible and they only won nine games.

(45:08):
Those things aren't too hard to piece together. I can
do it, and I went to public school in northern
Kentucky on the Reds front. I keep refreshing because I
can't think that was it. That can't be it. To

(45:35):
Brian Hayes, can't be the answer when it comes to
what this team needed at the deadline. Can't be Yeah, okay,

(45:57):
you feel like you need defense, got it. You went
out and you got a guy. But that can't be
the only one. That can't be we're done. We went
out and got a decent fourth or fifth starter and
a third baseman that you know couldn't hit the beach

(46:20):
with an ironing board. Can't that that can't You can't
look your fans in the eye and say we're serious
and expect them to continue to support you in a
season where you're five games over at the deadline, You've

(46:42):
got plenty of capital to move in the minor leagues,
and you don't do anything. It's not acceptable. Just take
a break, Richard Skinner after this since at He's ESPN fifteen.

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and first off, Skinner, I have to ask your reaction

(48:12):
to Tony Pike becoming a member of the Go Beart CAATs.

Speaker 8 (48:16):
Hall of Fame about damn time. I'm happy for him.
I mean honestly, I mean he he is a Hall
of Famer by Henny Standers. When it comes to football
at a university, I mean again, I don't know what
the delay was, but I'm glad it's finally getting done.

Speaker 2 (48:35):
I Like I said earlier, somebody called in on one
of the talkbacks and said, Tony made UC football cool again,
and I was like, no, no, no, I.

Speaker 8 (48:44):
Heard I actually heard that. No I thought he did too.

Speaker 2 (48:46):
No, no, no, no, he didn't make you see football
cool again. It was never cool To make it cool again,
it had to be cool at some point before then.
Tony made UC football cool for the first time.

Speaker 8 (49:01):
That's a that's a good call. Yeah, I mean the
great cook ear might have been cool because they didn't
pass it that Europe but you see did but they
you know, they were five hundred team back then too,
so that's not all that cool. So Mayby, that's a
good point. Your points will take it.

Speaker 2 (49:15):
Yeah. Uh, awesome to see for ton and and really
cool to see where he's made it in this industry,
in this town, making a name for himself after football.
And uh, I can't wait to uh to be at
the ceremony when Tony gets to give his acceptance speech.

Speaker 8 (49:32):
I hope you mentioned Byan Kelly.

Speaker 2 (49:34):
I'm sure he will in some ways shape or form.
I Uh, I'm guessing it's not gonna be similar to
uh Mick cronin coming back for Sean Kilpatrick's induction last year.

Speaker 8 (49:49):
Yeah, good call.

Speaker 2 (49:51):
It's probably gonna be a little different. Yes, the rets
Cabrian Hayes. I am of the opinion that I I
am potentially okay with adding a guy that many consider
maybe the best defensive player in Major League Baseball. But

(50:11):
I need a bat to go with it. Sometime here
between now and six o'clock for me to look at
Cabrian Hayes and go, okay, that makes sense? Is that fair?

Speaker 8 (50:19):
Remember back in like the sixties, seventies and eighties. You
probably don't, but you'll know what I'm going.

Speaker 2 (50:23):
I was born in seventy seven, so no, not really.

Speaker 8 (50:25):
Well, like like every every team in baseball had a
light hitting shortstop, right and and then and then kind
of cal Rippon came along. I mean, Dave Conception was
a little bit uh you know, of a hit. He
was a good hitter, but he used to be every
team that had the light hitting shortstop, and that guy
batted eight and he was in there only for defense.
That's what Brian is. He's just really in there for defense.

(50:46):
I mean, is ops is under six hundred this year?
It was under six hundred last year. I don't need
him to be a seven to seventy OPS guy, but
under six hundred is poultry. That's horrifying.

Speaker 2 (50:58):
The unplayable.

Speaker 8 (51:00):
It honestly is no matter how good you are defensively,
and and he is good. That parts that parts to
give me the gold blood winner. If you look at
some of the SATs and metrics on like Baseball Reference
dot com, he's been up there in range factor UH,
in range factor per game, UH, fielding percentage, double plays started,
all of those things. I mean, so he isn't a
weak defender, but can you carry that in your lineup?

(51:23):
The only thing I can think of for them in
the back department is they must think that this this
decision to move to La Martin the outfield is permanent
and that it's gonna work, and that he's the bat
that they kind of added. They added him as a
regular now in the outfit. He's bat waiting second tonight
in the lineup, and maybe they felt like at that
part point, let's just let's make sure we solidify defense

(51:44):
at third. We we need somebody on this roster that's
gonna save some runs for us, and maybe he you know,
you know, we can we can bat am Knights and
he's gonna save some runs and that's gonna save us
some games. I'm not here to tell you I'm completely
on board with that thought process. But if they are
hell bent on going ahead and moving you know, noelve Marte,

(52:04):
your other options would have been to play Gavin Lucks
at third. I don't think that was a great option.
Santio x espinol third, and well, his OPS is actually
better than Brian Hayes. You know. The question then, is
is Keith Brian Hayes's defense that much better? I mean,
maybe they think it is, so. I The part that
is a little odd too, is this would have been

(52:25):
maybe fine to take this on for this year and say, okay,
no Eleves our batman outfield, and we'll put him at
third and we'll get through the year. You still got
him next year, and the year after, and the year
after and the year after, and then a team option
in twenty thirty. I mean, that's a lot to take
on for a guy who just simply hasn't hit, and
especially I mean the last two years you're talking. I

(52:45):
think over two hundred games played in like seven hundred
played appearances with an OPS under six hundred. That's I think,
to my way of thinking, that's a pretty good sample size.

Speaker 2 (52:55):
Unplayable as a bat is can have a question is
can they d H for him.

Speaker 8 (53:05):
That would be good on a day on a day
one hundred on a day one hundred green pitches because
Hunter was obviously a two way prospect officially, maybe maybe
Hunter Hunter Hunter hits, and yeah, he hits. He's he's
a DH pitcher in place of Cabrian Hays in the lineup.

Speaker 2 (53:20):
I mean, Hunter's got to be able to get an
ops over six hundred. I would hope he may well
be able to. You're right, It just I understand, like
this team has not been great defensively for a while,
and I understand that it's something that Tito really values
and things is important. But what you're talking about fifty

(53:43):
percent of the games they've scored two runs or less,
and you add a guy that can't slap hit over
six hundred ops. I don't know, Skinny, I don't know.

Speaker 6 (53:54):
Now.

Speaker 8 (53:54):
I will say this. I looked up the splits today
to see what he's done in Great American Ballpark. He
does have like a seven thirty five OPS and Great
American Ballpark, and aside from his home park, it's it's
the major league stadium that he's hit the second most
home runs in Granted, it's only four. Yeah, four, Yeah,
it's four, it's four. But it is the bullpark where
he's hit the second most home.

Speaker 2 (54:15):
Runs in all right, I guess I feel a little
better about it. Zach Lettel. I like that. I like, yes,
having as many of those multi faceted kind of Swiss.
I hate the term Swiss army knife, but you know
what I mean, like a guy that can do a
lot of different things for you. He's been pitching really

(54:37):
well as a starter. Now you get Martinez maybe back
in his more desired role, and you also open up
the door for when Hunter Green comes back. Now Chase
Burns can maybe be a guy out of the bullpen.
Like I just think that is a move that was
really prudent to improve. Sometimes teams don't think to improve

(54:58):
an area of strength. I like improving an area of strength.

Speaker 8 (55:02):
I do too. And you know, we don't know, you know,
what point does Chase Burns reached the innings limit that
they've shut him down to? And so yeah, I mean,
I think I'm with you on that. I you know,
I mean, in a pants let's just say it's a
week where a couple of guys have gone haywire health wise,
and they just need to skip to start. Well, Nick
Martinez can make that start, or if if he hand
Lettel are both in the bullpen at some point because

(55:23):
you got a dearth of guys, then you know, again
they can make those starts.

Speaker 5 (55:26):
I know.

Speaker 8 (55:26):
For now, the plan obviously is Latel's going to be
in the rotation and Martize is going back to that
super reliever role. I think that's his best role. I mean,
I know he did good things as a starter last
year when he got you know, kind of the injuries
forced the hand of having him to be in the rotation.
But it just it seems like in that starting role
to me, he's had some good starts. But I just
I think he's really well suited for that other role.

(55:48):
The Hey, I need three innings tonight out of you.
I need five innings you out of it. I need
you to get me six right handed outs. I just
I think he gets that that role beautifully.

Speaker 2 (55:57):
In my opinion, he seems more comfortable in that role.

Speaker 8 (56:00):
Yeah yeah, I mean I think you ask any picture
they want to be a starter.

Speaker 2 (56:04):
Run that's that's where the most money is.

Speaker 8 (56:07):
Well yeah, no, I I yeah, for sure. And you know,
to the point of will tell you know, he's he's
he's relieved in his career, but he's having success.

Speaker 6 (56:14):
I know.

Speaker 8 (56:15):
You know. The first thing I did yesterday was obviously,
like we all did, we look at his numbers and
then you see that that number of home runs leads
the Major League Baseball. But again, when you match that
and marry it with the e r A, it's that's
probably a lot of solo home runs. I mean, that's
that's okay, it's not it's not the worst thing in
the world. And that means you're probably throwing strikes other
times and getting guys out and not allowing runs to score.
I mean, is the ras and the mid threes. You

(56:37):
give me mid threes on a staff that has a
guy in the two's at the moment in in uh
and Andrew Abbott, and a guy in the in the
low threes trending tours that sus In Cortolo, and you
get a hundred Greenbackers into twos. That's pretty good.

Speaker 2 (56:50):
Yeah. And then and then him and Singer are your
your four and five, Like I've seen really successful teams
have worse four and fives than that. And and but
he's got about four walks on the air like Lttel
does not put free guys on base. And this is
a pitching staff that at times is a little too
fond of the free pass.

Speaker 8 (57:11):
Well, and you know that guy too. Can can you
know on a night where your bullpen is burned out
a little bit, you go, hey, I can get you
into the seventh inning, mate, maybe even keeper than night
of things.

Speaker 5 (57:21):
Go welcome.

Speaker 8 (57:21):
I'm gonna throw strikes as long as it's not a
getting tattooed that nights, He's gonna maybe linked in that
start out. So yeah, I do. I like that move
a lot to keep Brian one. I mean I saw
his name mentioned a couple of days before that, and
I literally said to myself, Oh, don't do that. And
you know, if they're in on a you hanging a
Suarez and just didn't work out financially or prospect wise,

(57:42):
and this was the next way you were gonna go,
because you always were gonna go get a third base
and because of what you're doing with Marte, then let's
just see it play itself out. But I mean, there's
a lot of there's a lot of history that played
for Cobryan as he's just not a hitter.

Speaker 2 (57:53):
And unfortunately, if you're looking around a lot of those
wild card teams that are you know, right there or
ahead of the rads, they're going all in. They're they're
the padres are maniacal. The last twenty four hours.

Speaker 8 (58:08):
Now, yeah, I mean there's been a lot of stuff
going on, and honestly, if you hit refresh on any
of those probably trade trackers that you probably have up
at the moment, Yeah, in a private every fix team minutes,
you'll see something between now and six o'clock.

Speaker 2 (58:19):
Yeah, let's get to the Bengals, uh camp, anything that's
jumped out as it seems like it's been a camp
where you guys had a pretty good idea what you
were gonna watch going in and it's kind of played
out that way. Is that an accurate assessment?

Speaker 6 (58:34):
Yes?

Speaker 8 (58:34):
No, I mean the defense has had really good moments, yes,
you know, uh and especially against the pass today, Uh.
DJ Turnor who was just simply awful yesterday. And I mean,
when I tell you awful, he looked like he was
running in quicksand I mean every receiver that he was
covering looked like they had two full steps on him
on every single route, and it looked like when we

(58:55):
had talked to a couple of utuff to Charles Brooks
the quarterbacks a couple of days before that I need
to see more consistency out of this guy. I gotta
get more. And so you're thinking, oh, boy, he's turning
in the wrong direction. But today he has five pass
breakups and more practice. That's a lot for defense in
one practice, let alone a guy. And that was going
against Joel Burrow in the first team of Benson group.

(59:17):
So you know, you're seeing corners making plays. You know,
yesterday Barrett Carter, linebacker got a nice tip ball away
on a on a red zone pass play. Today it
was Demetrius Night, the linebacker tipped one to Dak Sill
who caught it for an interception. You're seeing the defense
whooping around a little bit. You know, they're kind of
they've been seeming very vocally enthusiastic and talked openly about

(59:38):
you know, kind of chirping at the offense and that
gets them going. The offense church back at them, and
then you can hear it, especially in the indoor practices,
and today was moved indoors because of the rain. It's
probably louder because you're inside and we're closer to them.
But I mean every play the defense made, the whole
group was running up and down like they just had
made a fourth down stop to win the Super Bowl.
So I don't think that's a bad thing.

Speaker 2 (59:58):
But I think that's part of out golden too, right,
that that college coach kind of mentality of let them
wolf a little bit and then it's a young defense.

Speaker 8 (01:00:07):
Yeah, and it I mean, it's it's been. It's good
a couple of At some point, Tyson Anderson and Jermain
Burton are gonna throw hands. It's just it's gonna happen.
They just keep chirping each other at point. But you know,
you know Jordan Batley chirping at Jamar Chase the other
day when when he broke up a pass and told Jamar,
you need to catch that ball. Catch that ball, catch
that ball, catch that ball. Well it was gonna impossible
to catch, but you know, but you better put your

(01:00:29):
big boy pants on if you're coming back at Jamar Chase.
And today it was a play where I can't remember
it being DJ got the pass breakup and Jamar's walking
back towards the offensive huddle and three defensive backs they
got him surrounded. You can just tell they are just
chirping at him, and he like took his arms and
kind of shoved them away, not in a dirty yeah
I'm gonna but just like get away from me kind
of way. And so I think it's been been good

(01:00:49):
to see. Now put the tongue in cheek and just realize,
let's see what happens when other teams game plan and
you're playing another club, but you are playing or to
be the best offense and in footbaul and doing a
really good job at at the moment.

Speaker 2 (01:01:03):
How much does Noah fan make this offense even better?

Speaker 8 (01:01:08):
Yeah? I think I think they really, I mean they
were they fell in love with Eric Hall last year
and because he could just gives a three down tight end.
And you know, there was a question asked today of
you know, you guys have been a big eleven personnel team.
You know, what does this do? You went to you know,
twelve personnalit He said, well, even when we have another
tight end and and Mike Gasicki on the field, we're
kind of still eleven personnel because Mike is more of

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a receiver. So I think that gives you still the
flexibility to put Mike is almost a slot guy at times.
Noah Fan can be a three down tight end. You know,
Drew Sample has his role as kind of that third
down blocker or you know, just as an extra blocker.
If you have to need a third and one and
you need an extra tight end in there, odd man
out's probably Tanner Hudson, him and Can Grandy probably battled

(01:01:50):
for the last spot, wasn't I Noah Fan is okay,
But I think he does make your tight end room better,
and I don't think there's never anything wrong with that.
You make your room better. You know, he's if you're
drafting in fantasy football in the years he was a starter,
you probably were drafting Noah Fant as a backup tight end.
So he's not gonna wow you. But again, last year
forty eight catches five hundred yards. Pretty good blocker. He's

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averaged I think fifty catches a year in his six
year career for you know, a little over five hundred
yards per year. Is that wow numbers? No, but those
pretty nice numbers. And again, if you're gonna run some
of that too tight end stuff, and let's face I
mean MIKEKASICKI Wally is he's a tight ending name more
than he is anything else because he's more of a receiver.
He gives you a guy who can probably fill a
three down role that they really thought Eric Hall was

(01:02:33):
gonna fill until excuse me Toil Supper the kne injury
last year.

Speaker 2 (01:02:37):
And look, if you're out there with with Jamar and
t getting open should be a lot easier than it
is in most every other situation.

Speaker 6 (01:02:46):
No question.

Speaker 8 (01:02:46):
I mean that's I think you saw that as the
year went on from Mike Kasiki last year, Like he
he was slow out of the gates, and all of
a sudden, you know, he started getting some favorable matchups
and he started winning those matchups, and he wound up
with sixty five catches for six hundred and fifty five yards,
number three on the team. And so you can do
a lot of things. I mean, you can go to
three wide receiver and go sicky. You have really a
four receiver set at times. You can mentioned two tight ends.

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You can leave Noah Fans on the field, take a
Sicky off and go three wide receiver. So it gives you,
it does give him a lot of flexibility.

Speaker 2 (01:03:18):
Looking at Shamar Stewart and what you've seen through the
first couple of days. Have you been impressed? Is it?
I saw he got a running back on him today
and he almost murdered poor He almost murdered poor Desmond Ridder.

Speaker 8 (01:03:31):
Yes, he did. I mean he is a They did
some drills right in front of us today. I mean
he is just physically imposing. He's a big guy and
he can just move. He had one yesterday where I
think Devin Cocklan was trying to block him, and you know,
Devin might have taken a wrong step for all I know,
but as soon as a snap came, he jumped inside
of him on a run play and kind of blew
that up. Saw him back down a couple of passes

(01:03:53):
a couple of days ago in a red zone drill,
and then today they ran a route. I kind of
got blocked out, but I was watching shemark. I want
to watch him rush, and he didn't rush. He took
the back out of a backfield and ran with h
Chase Brown with him, ran with him about forty yards
down field. Strive for stride. I mean, that's just that's
some of the stuff he can do. Again, Let's see
when the preseason game start. What he what he does.
And then obviously the big part is what he didn't

(01:04:14):
do in college, right, Go finish.

Speaker 2 (01:04:16):
Go finish. All right, Speaking of finish, that's gonna be
its skinny, I've got to get back to you know,
it's a big day for Tony. He's got these camp reports.
I've got to, you know, cater to him being in
the Hall of Fame. Now, Hall of Fame or turn Pike?

Speaker 8 (01:04:29):
Do you have do you have more talkbacks? So there
are still people sitting in tal.

Speaker 2 (01:04:33):
It's like fifty more talkbacks that haven't been played.

Speaker 8 (01:04:35):
Okay, that's that's what I figured. Okay, So I'll let
you go back.

Speaker 2 (01:04:39):
All right, Thanks, Kenny, appreciate it.

Speaker 8 (01:04:41):
YEP.

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Speaker 2 (01:05:48):
Wait, Where's where's Tony? I can't I can't see him.
Welcome back in Little Welcome back in Cincinnati Bearcats Hall
of Famer Tony Pike. Are you used to that yet?
Have you said it to yourself seven or eight times?

Speaker 5 (01:06:10):
I'm not used to it yet.

Speaker 12 (01:06:11):
I don't know that I ever will, but it does
have a very nice ring to it.

Speaker 2 (01:06:15):
Sad Did you prefer the Roman Ragns theme or the
John Cena theme?

Speaker 12 (01:06:21):
You know, Sena's kind of on the last ride. I
don't think I'm there yet. I think from a tribal
chief standpoint, I appreciate I'm a Roman range guy, so
I appreciate that.

Speaker 2 (01:06:32):
You are Tony. So everybody is talking about the big
day for dj Ivy today. Bad? How bad it he
struggled that it's this bigger news that that he played
as well as he did today.

Speaker 12 (01:06:50):
Yeah, he struggled enough, Chad that yesterday at practice he
was running with the threes, and not only running with
the threes, the third team offense was having success throwing
at DJ Turner. He had struggled throughout training camp up
to that point. They moved him down. But today again,
and I credit him, and I credit Al Golden and

(01:07:11):
whatever they're doing from a technique standpoint and a confidence
standpoint is working. Because you go into a practice and
have five pass breakups and team drills and a couple
of those against Jamar Chase. That's a that's a positive
sign because it's a tough position to play mentally because
you're gonna get beat a lot, and for him to
bounce back, I think says a lot about where he's
at and where this defense is right now.

Speaker 2 (01:07:33):
Did you ever have a guy knock away five balls
in a practice, Mike Mickens, d Loo d'angelos Smith, They
never got you like that? No, No, you don't have
the last number I can call him.

Speaker 12 (01:07:47):
I'd probably be more ring of honor material said if
I could have gone up against some better corners.

Speaker 13 (01:07:53):
No, I.

Speaker 12 (01:07:56):
Was lucky in that sense.

Speaker 7 (01:07:56):
Man.

Speaker 12 (01:07:57):
You go back to like ha Rookie, Nacamora and Webster.
You mentioned Nickens and d Lo and so many others.
We got a lot better when we did eleven on
eleven and one on one and seven on seven.

Speaker 2 (01:08:10):
Evan McPherson is the hype real. Does he look back
to normal?

Speaker 12 (01:08:17):
I think so, But that to me is one of
those things that I'm gonna need to see it in
a game. I get it's one thing to come out
and practice controlled settings and knock in field goals. He's
got to do it in the game for me because
there's no other kicker in camp right now. There's no competition,
and there was a big emphasis last year on some

(01:08:40):
of those losses of Evan McPherson misses. And it changes
the mindset, right if you're a quarterback and you're on
the thirty eight yard line and it's third and eight
and McPherson is struggling. If I'm the quarterback, I might
try to so maybe Young characteristically fit a pass in
somewhere as opposed to if I know my kicker is
in a good spot and that's three points on the board,
I'll dump the ball off, I'll check it down, and

(01:09:02):
I'll take the three. So I think it changes the game.
I think it changes how they called plays offensively, and
I would be very interested to see if early in
the season, if he misses a forty five yarder Week
one against Cleveland, what's the leash look like for Evan
McPherson going into this year.

Speaker 2 (01:09:19):
Yeah, it's going to be fascinating because he was a massive,
massive weapon and a loud burrowed I think playoffense a
little differently, knowing you get to the forty, you got
points and that wasn't the case last year. It changed.

Speaker 12 (01:09:34):
It changes a lot, and it's one of the looks.
It's not the only reason that they lost the games
they did last year. But you know we're talking at
the end of the season. Yeah, you're talking at the
end of the season about just needing one more and
you're a dangerous playoff team. Well, that goes on the
list of what went wrong last year that can't go
wrong this year.

Speaker 2 (01:09:51):
All right, Terrence yelling at me to get out of here.
Marty Brenneman and Tracy Jones are sitting in the chairs
across from me, looking agitated. Thrank, you takes town, appreciate it.
We'll talk to you in an hour. So ya, all right,
let's take it break. Brenhaman and Jones on baseball after
this Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen thirty.

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Speaker 2 (01:11:12):
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(01:11:34):
a boat today, Terran. I hope he's on a boat
somewhere far from here. Correct. Tomorrow is supposed to be phenomenal,
eighty degrees sunny. Really looking forward to getting out to
Camp Higher Ground tomorrow for Bearcats practice and not experiencing
what we experienced the first three days, which is the

(01:11:55):
worst thing in media, Terran. Sitting still and sweating. I
guess you could consider like that's as it's kind of
like spending a couple hours in a sauna because you
just sit there and sweat as the team practices. It's

(01:12:17):
not great, but I guess you know, I get do
I get to count that as exercise? I sweat. It
took me. Monday, we got done with practice, we went
into the dining hall, we had dinner. I drove home
the like fifty five minutes from Camp Higher Ground, and
my undershirt was still soaked from practice that it ended

(01:12:43):
two plus hours ago. So hopefully that won't be the
case tomorrow. It's supposed to be delightful Tomorrow and Saturday
and then the rest of camp is at the endoor
practice facility tear and so like the hard part of
camp for me kind of over and it's what we're
not even to August. Nope. Usually, man, you're out at

(01:13:06):
higher Ground for two weeks. Tony will tell you there's
nowhere to run, nowhere to hide. When you're at the
practice field at Camp higher Ground, there is no shade.
You just you get to cook. So I don't hate
it that the temperature is dropping. Today. The Bengals have
made it official. Noafan is signed to a one year deal.

(01:13:33):
He joins a tight end room that includes Mike Giseki
and Drew Sample. Last year, forty eight catches five hundred
yards solid the number that jumps out at me the
most for Noah Fan. Of those forty eight catches, twenty

(01:13:54):
five of them went for first downs more than half.
And that has been about where he is for his
entire career. Right about fifty percent of his catches are
for first downs. And you know, he's not an explosive
guy that's gonna get you a bunch of touchdowns, but

(01:14:16):
he is a guy in critical situations for Joe Burrow
that can move the chains. Reliable hands. You know is
going to find a place to sit down in his
own and make a big catch. Keep the chains moving,
keep a drive alive so Joe Burrow can continue distributing

(01:14:37):
the ball to Chase Brown, Jamar Chase t. Higgins. So
it's not splashy. But the Bengals are better today than
they were yesterday. I don't know if I can say
the same for the Reds, at least offensively. We are

(01:15:02):
forty nine minutes from the trade deadline. We learned during
this show yesterday that the Reds had acquired Gabriant Hayes
from the Pittsburgh Pirates. Hayes an excellent defender, one of

(01:15:25):
the worst everyday hitters in all of Major League Baseball,
maybe the best defender in all of Major League Baseball.
Also one of the worst hitters in the entire sport.
And for a team that needs offense, for a team

(01:15:50):
that desperately needs the offense to step up and be
more productive in August and September, if they are going
to make a run at the playoffs, the Reds haven't
gotten there. And when you look around at the teams

(01:16:13):
that are going to be in and around that wild
card race, you can't feel great you can't. The San
Diego Padres are the team the Reds have to catch

(01:16:34):
they have been. To say they have been aggressive in
the last twenty four hours would be a vast understatement.
The Reds have to make up three games on San Diego,
have to make up four and a half games on
the Phillies, and have to make up six and a

(01:16:54):
half games on the Cups. If you're a Reds fan,
I don't know how you can't be upset right now.
I don't know how you can't look at this franchise

(01:17:15):
and even look at the Cabrian Hayes trade where Nick
Crawl acknowledged yesterday they had to include Taylor Rogers in
that trade. Rogers was making six million a year, Hayes
making seven million a year. It couldn't just be prospects.

(01:17:37):
They had to include Rogers in that deal. Guy what
they sub three era coming out of your bullpen, had
to include him in that deal to make the money work.
The Reds are in the bottom third of Major League
Baseball payroll. They're in the bottom third of Major League
Baseball and active payroll, which is guys that are healthy

(01:18:01):
and on the roster right now, seventy seven million dollars
is what the Reds are paying the active roster right now.
And you mean to tell me they can't make a
trade to bring in a player making seven million dollars.

(01:18:27):
That's if that's not a microcosm of this entire franchise.
I don't know what is. They didn't go get Auhaniosaurus
the Mariners did. The Mariners did not give up a
top ten prospect to get au Haaniosaurus. And we don't

(01:18:47):
know the whole story. We don't know what the uh
Diamondbacks wanted from the Reds in order to get for us.
Maybe they had eyes set on a top ten prospect,
maybe they had their eyes set on two top ten prospects.
But what we know, if Nick Krawl is being accurate,

(01:19:13):
which I have no reason to believe he's not, is
that they probably weren't willing to take on the contract
of a Johanio Suarez, even if they had the players
that they were willing to trade to bring him in.
As far as he's making twelve million, it's not a

(01:19:33):
crazy number for a guy that's almost got forty home
runs before we've hit August. And there is a building

(01:19:54):
almost anger, I think is the right word for it. It's
not apathy. It's in the way that the Reds are
handling an opportunity to be good. This is not a
one hundred lost Reds team. This is not a team

(01:20:17):
that is filled with essentially minor league players that you know,
the Reds are rebuilding and looking for that window to
be open. The window is open, damn it. They're five
games over five hundred. They've got an outstanding pitching staff,

(01:20:45):
They've got plenty of talent. Is it inconsistent, Yeah, yeah
it is. And that's why the expectation from this fan
base was that the front office would go out and
do something about it. That the front office would go
out and say, look, offense is our problem. Offense is

(01:21:10):
what is holding us back. Offense, more often than not,
more often than it should be, is why we're not
ten games twelve games over five hundred. They've been stuck four, five,
six teams over five hundred. For it feels like an

(01:21:34):
entire month. Remember they had a really good June. They
couldn't continue it in July, and a lot of it
is because they couldn't successfully put runs on the board.
And you're gonna look this fan base, who is a
very smart baseball fan base. And you're gonna look this

(01:21:55):
fan base in the eye and say we did everything
we could because you brought in a guy who, while
he is brilliant defensively, has an OPS under six hundred.
You're insulting their intelligence. And I'm sure we're gonna hear
we were in on this guy, we were in on

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that guy. It doesn't matter who you're in on. It's
like recruiting in college, right, doesn't matter who you finished
second to, you finished second or third. What matters is
is this team. This is the window, right, this is
the trade deadline. Will evaluate when we get to the

(01:22:38):
trade deadline. We'll make decisions when we get to the
trade deadline. You have gotten to the trade deadline. We
are forty one minutes away from that window closing, and
the Reds have not done anything to improve their biggest weakness.

(01:23:00):
I've heard Charlie Goldsmith say their biggest concern, their biggest
issue was pitching depth. That's an issue. Sure, if you've
watched this team and you think their biggest issue is
pitching depth and not offense, that's got gaslighting written all

(01:23:22):
over it. They needed offense, They need offense. They need
a bat with forty one minutes to go, They've done
nothing to get one. How in the world did the
Bengals signing someone as What did the kids say? Signing

(01:23:46):
someone as mid As? No offense? Win trade deadline day
in Cincinnati? Give me a damn break. Speaking of breaks,
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Speaker 13 (01:25:38):
Well, you know, it's it's a big day in Red
Plains now. It's not always known for making big splash
moves on days like today, Clay.

Speaker 2 (01:25:47):
The Bengals have won the day with the signing of
Noah Fant.

Speaker 8 (01:25:53):
Yeah, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah exactly.

Speaker 13 (01:25:56):
Noah Fan mediocre, big name in college.

Speaker 2 (01:25:59):
Yeah, and more important than anything the Reds have done today.

Speaker 5 (01:26:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:26:05):
Cabrian Hayes. In a big picture, I would not have
I would not be bothered by the addition of an
elite fielding, you know, a guy that you've got under
control for multiple years, like in theory. I don't hate
the addition of Cabrian Hayes. If it was coupled with

(01:26:28):
the addition of another bat. We are thirty three minutes
away from the trade deadline. That bat has not come.
And if you're trying to sell to the fans, Cabrian
Hayes as what ails this team in August in September.

(01:26:49):
If you're a fan and you want to be pissed,
I get it.

Speaker 13 (01:26:53):
Yeah, I'm right there with you. I will say the
Reds did not have a third baseman that was elite
at anything. Sure, Brian Hayes as elite at something, but
the end of the day, they needed more offense. And
he's one of the worst hitters in the league. So
the Pirates are not a great hitting development team, but
neither of the Reds. So it's going to be a project.

(01:27:14):
If they can give him close to an average hitter,
that's a good player on a good deal. But getting
him there is going to be the challenging part. And
it doesn't really help much this year in particular.

Speaker 2 (01:27:27):
I mean, the reports aren't on him as a hitter
are almost unplayable, unplayable at the plate that I know.
This team hasn't been good defensively. They've been okay, it's
not been a strength, but I don't think it's been
an incredible weakness. They improve there, but you can't look

(01:27:49):
at this team when with a straight face tell me
starting pitching, depth and third base defense are all this
team was missing to get over the hump. I just
that to me is insulting to your fan base.

Speaker 13 (01:28:06):
Yeah, it's almost like it is called around and figured like,
all right, these guys we can at least get they
are better than you know. They're they're major leaders. Okay, sure,
and it's better than relying on a four A type prospect.
But at the end of the day, it's not enough,
especially when you see the Padres, the team in front

(01:28:28):
of you, going all out blowing the Reds out of
the water when it comes to the deadline. And you
know what's funny, Chad, is the Padres have done this
three years in a row where they've traded their top
prospects and guess what they replenish through the draft, and
they can do it again. This idea of every year
you can't trade any of these big names.

Speaker 5 (01:28:49):
These are the names, Well.

Speaker 13 (01:28:50):
The Padres do it, and the Padres reload because they're
so good at drafting development. The Reds are pretty good
there too, they really are, but they aren't as good
at being aggressive.

Speaker 2 (01:29:02):
Padres evanded, Ryan O'Hearn, Ramon Loreano, Freddie Furman, Mason Miller,
and JP Sears. To compare that to the Reds, what
they've done is laughable, laughable.

Speaker 13 (01:29:17):
And they were already a better team than the read
so they got that much better. So if you're gonna crawl,
you're sitting there. If I'm n Krawl, I make a move,
even if it's stupid, because my job is on the line.
You would say I was a GM and I knew
I could lose my job this winter. Why not trade

(01:29:38):
Cam Collier or whoever the prospect is with one last
ditch at Oh my gosh, if we could just sneak
into this, I will have employment for at least one
more year. Like be aggressive, man, you aren't. If you're not,
you won't be around to watch those prospects that you're
holding on to. That doesn't mean trade every single one
of them, but you can trade one of those guys

(01:30:00):
in the top five. You can you can move on
get an impact player. But now it may be too little,
too late.

Speaker 2 (01:30:07):
What did your brain say to you when Nick Krawl
essentially said we had to include Taylor Rogers in the
Cabrian Hayes trade to make the money even that they're
not even in a position to add a seven million
dollar in fielder.

Speaker 13 (01:30:27):
Yeah, and that quote would be okay if they made
other additions that were a lot of money and you
were just seen swapping money, That's okay, that makes sense.
But if the idea is, well, we really don't have
anywhere we could budget at all, then that is a massive,
massive problem. And I think him saying that is in

(01:30:51):
part him saying don't blame me. Sure, as we know
we talked about when David Bell was fired, ownership is
going to fire a manager next a GM and they
will repeat that cycle. They will never point the finger
at themselves. So if you're operating with such a tight budget,
you have to have an absolutely elite GM. Nick Krawl's

(01:31:13):
not that it's not saying he's awful, but he's not
good enough to work in that small of a margin,
and few people in this world are, right.

Speaker 2 (01:31:22):
That's you know. I take keyp for this every year
because I've often defended the reds GM from the sense
of the they're doing what their boss is telling them
to do, and Nick Krawl is doing what his boss
is telling him to do go improve the team, but
don't spend any extra money.

Speaker 13 (01:31:44):
And kind of the idea. If I gave you ten
dollars to make you and I dinner tonight, you would
probably have some cheap hot dogs and mac and cheese.
If I gave the best chef in the world ten dollars,
he's going to buy ingredients we cannot pronounce and put
something together that is phenomenal. I mean, that's the difference.
There's not many people who can do the latter, which

(01:32:05):
is what the Reds need. Somebody who's a genius it
can work with little and teams look for that all
the time. And there's a reason why a lot of
these small market teams don't do much.

Speaker 2 (01:32:15):
Hire somebody that works for the brewers.

Speaker 13 (01:32:19):
Is it that hard?

Speaker 2 (01:32:20):
Yeah, Hire somebody that works for the brewers and just
let them do whatever the brewers did.

Speaker 13 (01:32:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:32:27):
And by the way, with Johnson the pitching coach, Yeah
that's worked. The pitching's excellent. Ye do it again. And
by the way, Clay, I could make you a gourmet
dinner for ten dollars.

Speaker 13 (01:32:40):
Oh I I couldn't.

Speaker 2 (01:32:41):
We'd be Donald I could, Like, I've got that kind
of my cooking chops are that good. It might not
be gourmet, but you would be like, damn, this is
pretty tasty. If you gave me ten dollars instead make
me dinner, I could do it.

Speaker 13 (01:32:54):
I rolling his eyes right now.

Speaker 2 (01:32:57):
No, Terren's has eaten. I bring Tarring my food all
the time. On Tarren, how is my cooking? Oh phenomenal?
There you go? Oh all right, all right, nay, So
look Tran. Tarren loves when when I bring I bring
him chicken wings. I haven't smoked chicken wings in a while.
I need to We need to do that. Maybe next week, Tarran.

(01:33:18):
I think I'm in Thursday and Friday. Maybe Thursday I'll
bring some smoked chicken wings. Carolina Gold Action, Carolina Gold.
The the unfortunate part is Clay, it's a pretty good team.
Is that a great team? It's a pretty good team.
And it's a team that, if given a little more umph,

(01:33:41):
I think could have had at least a shot to
get into the playoffs. But looking now, looking at the
teams that are ahead of them, I don't feel great.
I don't feel great as we approach six o'clock.

Speaker 13 (01:33:55):
Yeah, and I'm in the same boat as you. I
will say baseball is one of those sports. There's so
many games an injury like anything truly gonna happen. And
I'm not trying to be that guy. What I guess
what I'm saying is they're still good enough that if
the stars aligned, they could make it. And they didn't
sell anything, so like, in a way, that's fine, but

(01:34:16):
you're right. Teams above them got better. The Reds get
slightly better, but not nearly to the degree that was needed.

Speaker 2 (01:34:27):
Yeah, I mean like the Lttel piece, I love that.
I love going and get in a guy that's got
some versatility. He can start, he can go to the pen.
He allows you to put Martinez in his probably ideal position.
He allows you to maybe put Chase Burns in a
similar situation when Hunter Green comes back, like as a
fourth or fifth starter. I love that move. I praised

(01:34:50):
the Reds for that, But they went and made a
strength stronger, which I don't mind. But you took a
weakness and ignored it, which is your glaring weakness. Half
of their games have ended with one two or zero
one or two runs half of their games and they
didn't go get a bat. And I want to take

(01:35:11):
this microphone and throw it somewhere.

Speaker 13 (01:35:16):
I agree, and it's it's not a situation where they
did not have the prospect capital to do it. They did,
and they've elected not to. And all I'm saying is
Nick ral has to be right, and what evidence do
we really have that the trades he's made in the
past are right or the big signings he made. So

(01:35:37):
to me, it's this guy is really just putting it
out there and if he doesn't want to be aggressive, okay,
I guess we'll see if he's still employed, and then
the new guy will come in whenever that happens, and
we'll sell them all and start over again.

Speaker 2 (01:35:53):
Girl the Atlanta Braves series, Boy, you want a case
study on window closing fast? How have things gone so
wrong for the Braves this year?

Speaker 13 (01:36:06):
Literally everything has gone wrong. It's the perfect storm. I
would put an asterisk next to this year. If I
was a Braves fan injuries, I would just say, all right, whatever,
bounce back, wouldn't trade anybody significant, Like I think they'll
be fine. I truly think this is the perfect storm
season for them, something that we don't see often year
and year out from any team. They still have talent,

(01:36:29):
They do not overlooked brace.

Speaker 2 (01:36:32):
Would you have gone and tried to get Ozuna?

Speaker 13 (01:36:36):
Now, I don't want just a permanent DH and that
guy's a mess personally, I am not. I don't want
any anywhere near the clubhouse.

Speaker 2 (01:36:44):
Okay, Cubs are acquiring will Castro from the Twins that
do anything for you.

Speaker 13 (01:36:50):
Willie Castro, That's exactly the team I wrote was the
perfect fit for him. That's gonna be an amazing piece
for them, and that takes them to, you know, even stronger.
And look at the Cubs, use them as an example.
They traded away all there's players in twenty twenty one
or twenty two whenever, that was all their World Series

(01:37:11):
core and now look at them. Yeah, one of the
best teams in baseball that quickly. The Reds still kind
of in their rebuild the.

Speaker 2 (01:37:18):
Phase, perpetually rebuilding it. And that's the that's it's the
most annoying part of all this is you're in a
division with three franchises that I have exponentially more faith
in getting it right than the Reds, Brewers, Cubs, Cardinals.
The only reason the Reds aren't last is because the

(01:37:40):
Pirates are even more of a joke than.

Speaker 13 (01:37:42):
The Reds are Yeah, I could not agree more. The
Reds are operating in a delay. That's what it feels like.

Speaker 6 (01:37:50):
It feels like.

Speaker 13 (01:37:51):
Everyone else starts the race, the Reds, someone's holding on
to their shirt. Six steps later they let go and
oh yeah, the Reds are also twenty times overweight.

Speaker 8 (01:38:00):
I catch up.

Speaker 13 (01:38:00):
That's how it feels. You're in EU out.

Speaker 2 (01:38:02):
Yeah, they pop a hamstring, you know, fifteen yards in
and that's the end of the race. Is there any
reason for me to feel better about this before I
get in my car and drive home angrily. Here in
half an hour, twenty minutes.

Speaker 13 (01:38:17):
Well, Chad, were one day closer to red season being over.
Maybe that helps Natty football starting up, you know, bingals.
I don't know anything about either one of those teams,
but I know that that's something you dabble in.

Speaker 2 (01:38:31):
So yeah, the Bearcats football is back, which means Bearcats
basketball is almost back, which it means that I'm going
to be busy for you know, the next seven months,
eight months, And I'm okay with that.

Speaker 13 (01:38:44):
Just put more on Aaron's plate.

Speaker 2 (01:38:46):
Okay, I can do that. That's fine, that's a good idea.
I think I'm going to do that tonight. Yeah, where
can they find you?

Speaker 13 (01:38:53):
Clay just baseball dot Com on Twitter at Clay Underscore snow.

Speaker 2 (01:38:58):
Sm Ociate you man, We'll talk soon.

Speaker 5 (01:39:02):
Alrighty, have a good one.

Speaker 2 (01:39:03):
There you go, Clay Snowden one of my favorites. I
hit their own button, tarn I meant to hang up
on Clay and instead I turned my mic off. I
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Speaker 2 (01:40:23):
What an interest. I mean, let's welcome in the.

Speaker 11 (01:40:40):
Hall of Famer, Tony Hug.

Speaker 2 (01:40:50):
I mean, this is epic. What an entrance. This is Man?

Speaker 12 (01:40:54):
That after my guy Sharon Bland for going with the
Roman Reigne intro music. This is that at the tarn Man.

Speaker 2 (01:41:02):
How was my announcer voice? I get that right? That
so sound a right there? I'm I'm not Michael Buffer.

Speaker 12 (01:41:07):
But no I don't. I don't think you're there yet,
but I think you're close. But it's it's really sad
the thought that counts. And you know, in the in
the moments that we were able to share in the
hallway where you may not have said Tony pick or
you know, mentioned the ring of Honor reference. I appreciate
you putting in the least of the effort.

Speaker 2 (01:41:27):
Yet, look, Tony, you know somebody there's a lot of
adoration for Tony Pike today. Somebody's just got to make
sure that you're on You stay on Cloud nine. We
don't want you on Cloud ten or eleven. Just right
there on nine.

Speaker 12 (01:41:41):
I want to know a couple of things, Chad. I
want to know what happens to the fifty talk bocks.
We didn't get to play today. Who's whose folks messages
are not going to go unhurt? Appreciate all of them? No,
that might be a thing. Yes, uh, And I did
think this appropriate. I was I was hundred years and
years ago to get to go into the Reading Hall

(01:42:02):
of Fame. Yeah, very preceivedous hall of fame. But when
I went into that, it just felt like my dad
kind of wrote in on my coattails, and this this
is a hall of fame where he's not going to
be able to ride in on the coattails. So there's
that too.

Speaker 2 (01:42:20):
I mean, I'm sure it feels great. I've always wondered,
like you see these these Hall of Fame surprise announcements,
at what was was it? Was it when your wife
and kids started walking in?

Speaker 4 (01:42:33):
What is that?

Speaker 2 (01:42:34):
When you were like, wait a minute?

Speaker 12 (01:42:37):
Well originally, and it's funny because I got home and
my wife told me she said, I was looking at
your face when when John Cannham started talking. I was
almost wondering, like did I say something I shouldn't have said?

Speaker 2 (01:42:50):
Have I you were pretty stoic at first.

Speaker 12 (01:42:53):
Have my dad talked to Bearcats in a way because
he was like, you know, Tony, I want to talk
about something else.

Speaker 2 (01:42:57):
I'm like, oh boy, what have I said?

Speaker 12 (01:43:01):
But yes, once he said that, and then for me
seeing my wife and our oldest son coming in, and
that to me was the moment that I lost it
a little bit. But again, I don't know how I
didn't pick up on things. Yeah, I've been doing training
camp coverage in Meredith. She's never asked me that's like, hey,

(01:43:21):
I want to come down to training camp tomorrow. Like
I didn't even take anything of that. I didn't take
anything of John Canningham was randomly going to be a
Bengals training camp because Ded Ritter was there, and I
thought that made sense. So there's a lot of pieces
to the puzzle that I'm retroactively going back and looking at.
But in the moment in time, the I would say

(01:43:42):
the plan could not have played out any better for
those involved except for me.

Speaker 2 (01:43:47):
Give me like one sentence. Give me one sentence on
the Bengals.

Speaker 12 (01:43:52):
The secondary one the day today. DJ Turner was running
with the threes yesterday because he had been beaten so
much during camp he had five breakups. Today had an
awesome bounce back day and another good day for the defense.

Speaker 2 (01:44:04):
All right, that's gonna do it. Thanks to uh Tony
of course, and congratulations again to Tony on his uh
his his finding out that he will be inducted into
the UC Sports Hall of Fame, thanks to Klay Snowden,
thanks to Richard Skinner, thanks to Taron Bland on the
ones and twoes. That's it for me. I'll be back

(01:44:24):
next week. I think I'm here Thursday and Friday next week.
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