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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Milwaukee Brewers are thirty two games over five hundred. We're
used to them being good. We're used to them being
this good. They come to Cincinnati having won twelve straight games.
Reds and Brewers tonight, six forty from GABP. I'm owegar,
this is ESPN fifteen thirty. In our business, there are
few better than this guy. The host of the Bill
Michaels Show, which is a four hours I can't imagine
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doing four hours every day. I can barely do three.
He covers Milwaukee sports, Wisconsin sports, sports throughout the Midwest,
the Green Bay Packers, the Bucks, Wisconsin Badgers, and I'm
sure he's very heavy on the mL excuse me, very
heavy on the m Milwaukee Brewers these days. And he
used to work here and he's from this area. The
great Bill Michaels is with us. What's up, sir?
Speaker 2 (00:45):
What is going on?
Speaker 3 (00:46):
You know what?
Speaker 4 (00:46):
I'm looking forward to mo to coming back home, We'll say,
because I got my my forty year class reunion for
Elder High School coming up on October tenth.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
Wow.
Speaker 4 (00:56):
Yeah, I can't believe I'm that old already. So I'm
coming back and I'm going to roam the Halls of
l for a couple of days.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
All right, Well, you know I didn't go to Elder
but I live on the west side, so our paths
will hopefully cross.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
Yes on a skyline.
Speaker 4 (01:08):
That's what I like to do, because I see you
eating skyline on your Instagram post all the time, and
you're killing me up here.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
You're killing me.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
You do not have to ask me twice to go
to skyline. We will make that happen. On May seventeenth,
the Milwaukee Brewers lost to the Minnesota Twins seven and
nothing to fall to twenty one and twenty five. They're
now thirty two games over five hundred. What changed, Well.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
There's a couple of things. They were kind of foundering.
Speaker 4 (01:34):
They were a team that looked like they were going
to be about a five hundred team all season long.
And I at the time, I had asked Pat Murphy, like,
what's the problem because it seemed like there was something
missing chemistry wise in the clubhouse. And he said, you know,
it's really not the clubhouse. He said, it's misplaced energy.
And I asked him what he meant by that, and
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he said, it's misplaced energy that they're trying to kind
of they're all on the same page. They just don't
have something to bring it all together. And then they
got the win on May twenty seventh. They started to
win a few baseball games.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
Then they got the win.
Speaker 4 (02:11):
On May twenty seventh in the tenth inning. It was
a walk off grand slam by Christian Yelich. Then they
won the next night in ten innings against Boston again,
and they ended up sweeping that series.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
And ever since then they've been on fire.
Speaker 4 (02:25):
And he said to me at that point, and I
kind of hate to equate it to the movie Major
League with the passing of Bob Yucker, but it was
like when Lou Brown said, we needed something to get
it all together, and that's what it was. It was
all of a sudden, they started believing in themselves. And
then you saw that youthful exuberance that Murphy likes to
have in his clubhouse start to come back. And ever
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since then they've been on a tear. I mean, you
go back to May eighteenth when they were foundering and
really not playing that great of baseball. Since then, they're
fifty four and nineteen, which is just like amazing. Now,
on May twenty third, they were six and a half
games back, and they were starting to play good baseball.
But the Cubs were playing well too. Then on June
seventeenth and eighteenth, they were six and a half games back.
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Since then, they are now eight games over. They've made
up fourteen and a half games in the standings, and
this run is just remarkable.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
They don't have a position player who was an All Star,
and they have some guys who are having nice seasons,
right like Kristian Yelich is having a nice season, But
there's there's no one who you look at statistically and
they just jump off the page. So offensively, how are
they doing this?
Speaker 4 (03:32):
That's a great question. I mean, if you look throughout
the season, they're not power hitters. So for most of
the season, I think right now that rank like eighteenth
of Major League Baseball. But since the beginning of August,
they're second in Major League Baseball, only behind the Arizona Diamondbacks.
But Contreras, who's got a broken finger, He's playing the
season with a broken finger. He had been struggling mightily.
Then they picked up Denny Jansen from the Tampa Bay Rays,
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and you're like that was kind of a minor pickup,
but Janson's been catching a little bit more. Giving Contrera's
a break, and it's the All Star break. He's hitting
three fifty five. You know, Contreras is and it's just
a matter of giving him a break. Then you package
that with picking up Vaughn when Savale remember they ended
up bringing up Misserroowski and Savally really didn't have a
spot for him in the rotation, and he demanded the trade.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
So they said, okay, no problem. Then they look and.
Speaker 4 (04:18):
They see Vaughn sitting in the minor league system, who
was a third or fourth overall pick for the Chicago
White Sox. They said, hey, we'll trace you Savali for
this guy and the White Sox. I remember when they
made the trade and White Sox fans up here were
killing this guy. He stinks, he sucks. He was a
terrible pick. They're comparing him to Mitch Trubisky. Since he's
been here, he's hitting three forty five. Everything that they
saw on him as a top draft pick came to fruition.
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He went to the miners first, and he got a
little bit humbled. Then he came here and he said,
it's night and day. It's night and day. Clubhouse it's
night and day organization. You're playing for something. Everybody's on
the same page. There's something to be said for not
only what goes on in the field, but what goes
on behind closed doors in a clubhouse. And Pat Murphy
has just created an incredible culture here. And Murphy, I
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don't know if you notice, he's a former boxer, right,
and he talks about everything in a boxing sense, like, Hey,
if we lose a game, that means we lost around,
but we didn't lose the match, so you're not gonna
get down. You're gonna come back and fight and try
to beat their butt the next day. And that's the
way he kind of matriculates his philosophy is through the
boxing analogy to all these guys. And now you got
the guy picking out pocket pancakes and eating pancakes out
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of his pocket during a game, and people are now
giving him brownies and all this different stuff, and he's like, yeah,
don't hit me in the butt. There's powdered sugar back there.
Now you know it just the guy's just a fun
guy to play for, but he's also very smart and
very gut into it intelligence.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
Baseball.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
Man, It just it feels to me. You know, Craig
Council left, and I know there were a lot of
herd feelings, maybe mainly because you know of where he
decided to go, but I mean, he's a Milwaukee guy,
so a lot of herd feelings there. How long did
it take Pat Murphy to get people to stop talking
about the guy he replaced.
Speaker 4 (05:58):
Well, he won Manager of the last year, and I
think people still talk about Craig, but in the light
of how badly they want to beat him. And as
you had mentioned, had he gone anywhere else.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
It's no big deal, you know.
Speaker 4 (06:11):
But he went to the Cubs and he did it
kind of like in the middle of the night. But
what I know is that when they made the Josh
Hater trade some years ago for money, basically because the
Hater was going to go and become a free agent
and they didn't want to just lose them, so.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
Instead they traded them away.
Speaker 4 (06:26):
But don't forget they were in the midst of a
Pennant race at that point in time. That told Craig Council,
you care more about the money than you do about winning.
And Brandon Woodriff told me that too. He said, man,
that just deflated our clubhouse. They underestimated the impact of
that guy, and there's a long story behind it, with
his child being sick and everything, and basically all the
guys in that clubhouse pulling for him. That's when Counsel
kind of made the decision, I'm going to go elsewhere
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and see what I can do to raise the level
of pay for managers. That being said, you know, Brewers
fans are like good riddings.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
And now you're.
Speaker 4 (06:53):
Starting to think, was he the brains behind because Craig Council,
remember played for Pat Murphy back in college. You're thinking,
was Pat Murphy the brains behind all of this, kind
of the open door policy, brains behind all of this,
the likable father figure behind all of this. And now
you just look at the results and you're just, you know,
you're thinking, wow. I mean, this is the guy that
has sat five out of his starting players. He sat
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Jackson Curio for making a bonehead of mistake. He sat
Bryce Terrang for making a bonehead of base running mistake.
He sat Joey Ortiz because he wasn't taking the right pitches,
he wasn't working to count properly. He sat Isaac Collins,
he sat reyes Hoskins at one point because Hoskins was
in a slump and wanted to keep hitting through it,
and he said, no, you're not. You're gonna sit for
a while because you're not doing this any good. This
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is the guy that believes in accountability too, so that
raises your level of play.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
You know what it's like in a small market, right where,
especially during the offseason, you see the money the Dodgers
throw at players, or you see the money the Yankees
throw at players, or the Red Sox. Whoever, maybe Boston's
not the best current example, and fans will complain, well,
we can't compete with that. In my take as always
all right, cool, you can't compete with the Dodgers. How
about compete with the Milwaukee Brewers. They've been in the
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postseason now what six of the last seven years. They're
shoeing to make it this year and they do it
despite you know, they got rid of Josh Hater. Corbyn
Burns is no longer there Willia Damas moved on this offseason.
They have a different manager. Now, why are they good?
Speaker 2 (08:16):
Every year?
Speaker 4 (08:18):
They have taken up the philosophy of find the players
that Mesh Wealding in the clubhouse together. Don't get me wrong,
you gotta beet good players. I think there's four components
to really being good and winning a championship. One is,
obviously you got to be good. The other one is
you got to be lucky, you got to be healthy,
and you got to get hot. All though, all four
of those things have to come together.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
But I think what they have done is.
Speaker 4 (08:38):
We are going to concentrate on three specifics and none
of them have anything to do with hitting, speed, defense,
and pitching. They have been when they were one of
the first teams to put that pitching lab into their
spring training facility out in Maryvale, Arizona, and I'm sure
you've probably been over to Maryvale and seen a lot
of the upgrades.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
That they've made.
Speaker 4 (08:55):
But they put that pitching lab in and that has
been very, very very beneficial for them. Number two is
team speed. This team makes you think before the ball
even gets to your glove, and it was very much
on display the other day when you saw them play
the New.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
York Mets and the Mets.
Speaker 4 (09:11):
The Mets not only committed three errors, but they had
errors at shortstop with Francisco Lindor, who had two of them,
and then they had Mauricio come off the bench as
a defensive replacement to play third base, and he made
an error. Because they have so much team speed. If
you don't make a clean play, if they're safe at first,
and all of a sudden, you've got runners. And then
they're basically a single or a walk becomes a double
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because they steal bases with the best of them. Same
thing with a triple. So, first of all, they got
team speed. Second of all, with that speed, they can
get the things that a lot of teams can't. And
they can track balls down between Blake Perkins and South Freelick.
Now Blake Perkins is on the bereatment list who won't
be in Cincinnati. But between Blake Perkins and South Freelick,
nothing gets to the right side from centerfield to the
right over. You can't get one into the gap. They're
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so fast. And then you look at just good pitching
and who would have thought that you'd be sitting here
today when you look at the rotation and now you've
got Misserowski coming back tonight to face the Reds. But
you've got Freddie Perrault to Brandon Woodriff and Woodrick Since
he came back from the shoulder surgery has not been beaten.
They made the trade early on with Boston for Quinn Priester,
who has been fantastic. They revitalized the career of Jose Kintana,
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and then you throw, oh, by the way, Mizerowski who
averages one hundred and one miles an hour with incredible
breaking stuff and that beutiful enthusiasm, plus Trevor McGill and
Abner Uiba in the back end of the bullpen. You
look at this and you go, anybody can win on
any given day. And you know as well as I do,
you're only as good as that day starting pitcher. And
if that day starting pitcher is always going to give
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you an opportunity to win.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
And you've got team speed. That's the way they're getting
it done.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
When do you get your free Hamburgers?
Speaker 4 (10:44):
You know what's funny is they got a George Web
about maybe a half a mile from my house and
there were people lined up yesterday. I mean, they have
anything announce when they were giving them out at that
point and people are in there demanding free hamburgers.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
It is next Wednesday.
Speaker 4 (10:56):
So you go up the street, you get your voucher,
and then next Wednesday, at any point time, you can
come in and redeem your voucher for a free hamburger.
And I have never seen somebody so many people in
the Midwest live by the motto, if it's.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
Free, it's for me. Holy macro? Are they going to
give away a lot of burgers? Holy macro? H.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
We got to do something similar here. Maybe we'll get
Skyline to do that and you'll be here for it.
Who knows. I appreciate the time.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
Man would drive down for that? If they're giving out
free cony? How would drive down for that? All right?
Speaker 1 (11:20):
Well, we'll see what we'll see if I can pull
some strings. All right, all right, you're the best, Thanks man.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
Absolutely buye Tucky soon.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
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