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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Tomorrow morning the AE Door and Window, Tony and Moe
Training Camp show ten o'clock. Let's see, last Thursday, rain
punted the team inside send Tony to Kenwood.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
So it's been a week or so since I've been
out there. Can't wait there.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
Our shows have been a lot of fun broadcasting from
training camp. But don't forget Thursday night preseason opener Bengals
and Eagles Live on ESPN fifteen thirty. This show is
going to start pregame coverage at three oh five.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
So we.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
Talking about the fiasco in Bristol, Tennessee. Our guy Austin
Elmore was there one half of since e three sixty
and so I know you've talked about this already, but
for the benefit of my audience, just since we're talking
about this, just help me, help me get an idea
of what the scene was like down there. First of all,
like you you went Saturday, you could not stay for
the resumption of the game yesterday, which was basically eight
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plus innings.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
So you don't get a rain check, right, I don't
think so.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
No, So you saw less than an inning than couldn't
stay for yesterday, right, And you don't get any sort
of refund.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
Now, Honestly, I didn't take point for this trip, Okay,
I was kind of just following along. One of my
other friends organized it, did the whole thing, so he's
trying to figure that out.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
But I don't believe so.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
So separate the rain from the overall experience because the
rain is one thing you can't control that God does
what he does fine, but like the fan experience. I
I will admit to being somewhat skeptical about this going
in me too, and I don't know why.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
Yeah, I was.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
I was sad to see that so many people had
such a miserable time. You apparently are among them. Why
was it so bad on Saturday?
Speaker 3 (01:41):
I need to go back and find my old tweets
because when they announced it, I said, there's no way
this is going to work. Yeah, and I didn't think
of it as I thought of it as sitting in
a seat watching a baseball game.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
Right. It just doesn't make sense to me.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
But I figured that they would at least figure out
the logistics. And logistically it didn't make any sense first
and FOREMA most one hundred thousand people I can count
on one hand, I can probably count on two fingers.
How many security guards I saw. Really, there was no security.
There was no police presence that I saw at all.
We get down to we got to Bristol at noon
and we started tailgate and drinking and hanging out. We
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walk over to the fan fest at like three something
like that, and our group had gotten split up. There
was six of us, and so I get up to
the gate to get into the fan zone and they're like,
you need to have your ticket to the game, and
I was like, oh, okay, So I like go around
and try to get my buddy's attention who's in there.
And then twenty feet away at another interest, the guy goes,
you can just come in, and I was like, I
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don't have to have my ticket, and they're like no,
And so I'm not kidding. Those people were twenty feet apart,
one group checking bags and tickets, another group just letting
people walk into the fan fest. Is the fan fest
inside the racetrack. It is not inside the race track, Jason,
It is right out. I basically turned a smaller parking
lot into the fan fest. Okay, okay. And so first
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thing you see when you get in the fan fest
is a line a mile long for merchandise wrapping throughout
the FanFest, which that's the first instance of like, okay,
this I don't know about this, but the FanFest itself
was not bad other than the lines being long, and
they were very, very long. There was cool stuff. There
was the Legacy Walk, there was ritz Van, there was
a concert Jake Owen actually was pretty good.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
I enjoyed that.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
Right then you turn to go into the stadium into
a Bristol Motor Speedway right and you're walking up a
giant hill and it's just a massive people and there
is no organization whatsoever. And is it raining at this point? Yes, okay,
it is raining. It's uncomfortable. It's been spitting rain the
whole time.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
Walk in.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
Eventually, finally get up this huge hill, get through. You
walk into Bristol Motor Speedway to your right, and this
is just my experience. There's a mound of dirt that
goes all the way into the earth, basically, which I
guess is what the track is built on. And it's
just I'm thinking, okay, well, if that gets wet, that's
gonna stream mud down in through here. There's dripping water
everywhere because it's coming down from the stands above. The
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lines for merch inside are just as long as outside.
The concession stand lines are wrapping in and up and down,
just ungodly long. And so we're thinking, Okay, how do
we want to do this? We want to try to
get food? Do we want to try to get something?
But we have plenty of time between now and the
start of whatever. So eventually we go up all the
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way to our section, which is almost at the very top,
and we decide we're going to get some food there.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
And this is.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
Five thirty ish games at seven to fifteen games.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
At seven fifteen, I was in that line for almost
an hour and a half. This is just to get
like just to get consults, like regular food, regular food.
And you can tell, like you go up there and
they have like a whole new thing. It's like this
is Major League Baseball at the Speedway Classic. And your
options are hot dogs, nachos, nacho dogs, popcorn, kettle corn,
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and then like candy and snacks pop like that. Right,
it took forever for that line to get through, so
five thirty.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
Now that the game itself got delayed five thirty, you
walk in and get in line by seven fifteen, which
is when the game is supposed to begin, you're still
in line.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
I get to my seat right around seven, so took
an hour and a half. Yeah, how not staff inexplicable?
There was like, I guess not enough staff. I have
no idea, and so like we're seven people away and
that's when they announce that they've run out of hot dogs.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
Okay, So now I'm.
Speaker 3 (05:37):
Pissed because I'm like, I wanted two hot dogs, like
a coke.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
You've waited nearly an hour and a half for hot
dogs and you can't get.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
And so I settled for a bag of kettle corn
and a coke zero and Eminem's.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
Did they have people like walking around selling hot dogs
and stuff?
Speaker 2 (05:51):
No, none of that. No.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
When you go to a typical race, and I know
very little about NASCAR racing, but I know I've been
to the Indy five hundred, you could like bring a
cooler rant.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
So is this it's like a deal?
Speaker 1 (06:00):
We're head when we host a race, people can bring
their own stuff in or we're not used to these
long lines, like why do you know anything about the
experience you had on Saturday versus what it's like if
you go to a car race at Bristol.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
I don't I think it was.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
I know it was an MLB clear bag policy, which
I know famous here I'm familiar with with the NFL.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
You're not bringing stuff in. It's a clear bag. But
you can bring in at a Reds game, you can
bring it up like a soft side of cooler.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
Yeah, could you do that?
Speaker 3 (06:25):
I don't believe. So could be wrong, but I don't
believe you could. So they run out of hot dogs.
I read Gordon Wittmeyer who wrote yesterday that for the
game that they actually played yesterday, they ran out of
Hamburger's well before first pitch.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
Yeah, how are they so poorly staff? They knew how
many tickets they were touting. We had no idea we're
gonna have eighty thousand people. They ran out of food.
Here's my thought. Okay, ninety thousand people ended up being there.
I think the total was ninety one something. Half the
track is basically shut down, right and people can't get
to it, right, and so you have seventy five percent
of the stadium's capacity in fifty percent of the room.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
Oh and you know, okay.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
So to me, that's like, okay, this the math doesn't
add up as to how we're gonna be able to
do this, and then I truly think, you know, it's
one of those tent pole jewel events from Major League Baseball.
I think they brought their own people in, so I
don't think the people who ran the concessions typically work
Bristol Motor speedway races.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
Huh.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
So here's the other part. Rain obviously makes everything worse.
We get to our seat and we're in the first row,
like under the awning at the very top, and so
I'm thinking, this is great, we'll stay dry, like cool,
and above us is like a faulty gutter that's rusted out,
and water is just pouring onto our seats. We had
six seats, and three of them you couldn't sit in
seriously because it was a waterfall onto them. So this
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was my other friends were at the seats as we're
waiting in line. We get there, I'm like, what's going on.
I talked to the guy and he said he's a volunteer.
It's the first time he's ever been here. And he
said his advice to him just see if somebody else
moves and sit in their seats.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
I'm like I was at this point I was running
hot because I had been in line. Yeah, and so
I was like, I'm just gonna sit here and eat
my kettle corn and try to settle down. But if
it were me, I would have been like, we paid
two hundred bucks for these seats, you better accommodate me
better than this, no question. But at that point where like, okay,
other people had left, we made it work. We were
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just sitting there. Everything was fine, and rain was starting
to lighten up. They were doing this starting the pregame ceremonies,
and then in the midst of the pregame ceremonies, is
anybody was watching on TV saw that the rain was
getting heavier, and I'm thinking, this is going to be
a really long night.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
So, like, I get it.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
They have Fox as a TV partner, you have all
these folks who have gotten there. You want to try
to get the game in. But when they started playing baseball,
i'man like, I'm watching on TV and I'm looking at
my radar and I'm like, dude, this isn't this, this
isn't gonna fly, this is gonna work.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
Field's not going to be playable.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
Was when they started the game, were you guys looking
at each other like what are we trying to do here?
Speaker 2 (09:06):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (09:07):
Yeah, I was like, well, we'll see how this goes, because, like,
honest to God, the other part is with all those
people there, your service is spotty, so you don't know
exactly what the radar is saying and like how it's
gonna update. But like for the week leading up to it,
and really even that day, it didn't seem like the
rain was going to affect the game. It was like, Okay,
it'll rain, but they'll play. They can play through it,
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no big deal. And then it just kind of settled
over that little valley that Bristol Motor Speedway is in
and it just got worse. And that I think made
it even worse because all those people that don't want
to sit in the rain go up into the concourse
and they're like, okay, well i'll get something to eat
or whatever.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
It just got worse.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
So the biggest issue for you was they they weren't
ready to staff the event given that they cut they
cut it off and shoved everybody into one area of
the track.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
Yeah, it was basically it. That's how I saw it.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
Yeah, And I mean, are people the entire time like
looking at each other like, dude, what are we doing here?
Speaker 2 (10:05):
That kind of thing? Yeah, did you see any fights?
I didn't see any fights. Fight. I did hear that
that was happening, right, Uh.
Speaker 3 (10:11):
We really mostly stayed in our seats the entire time
once we got there because we were dry.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
Right. Do we know why people were fighting? I don't.
Speaker 3 (10:19):
I would imagine there was a lot of drinking and
waiting around, yeah, and not a lot of baseball being
Now the concerts, Yeah, were those good?
Speaker 2 (10:27):
I mean they missed all of them because I was
in line.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
So you were in line, Well, Pitbull and Tim McGraw
are playing, you don't see any of it.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
I got I got to my seat as Pitbull was
doing like his forty five seconds prior to the start
of the stuff.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
Gotta be honestly, that's about as much Pitbull as I
could stay. But Dad said, and you pay for the ticket,
you understand the two concerts are included. It'd be nice
to not be in the concession line while the concerts
are taking place. See.
Speaker 3 (10:51):
I can't stress how far away Tim McGraw was from me,
Like that was on the other side of left field
from where I so like, yeah, you could hear him,
but you really couldn't like enjoy much of a concert. Okay,
I'm showing you a photo right now that's zoomed in.
I'm showing moa photo that is zoomed in from where
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I was at, And so it was so far away.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
At first pitch. Obviously not everybody was in their seats,
but enough people were in their seats that I thought
on TV at least it looked cool.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
I think it got pretty close and the environment was
actually sick. It looked like it was awesome. We were
a part of the big card stunt with the American flag.
We were holding those up and those plastic bags they
came and ended up being huge for us over the
course of keeping ourselves dry, and that was cool. The
flyer was cool like all, like the players coming around
the track. The whole pregame we loved well. It was awesome,
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really well done. Fans were into it, like enjoyed it,
and even from where we were at it was pretty cool.
And I've said, like, I didn't think the view was
gonna be great, but the view was actually good.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
When the Red scored their run in the bottom of
the first inning, that was loud, like that sounded awesome.
That sounded really cool on TV. Yeah, and then getting
out is that a big deal?
Speaker 3 (12:07):
Like it was awful. Yeah, it took us almost two
hours to get out as well.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
And then you couldn't stay for the game yesterday, and
couldn't stay for the game yestery. So obviously, like I
get it, it rains. There's only so much you can do.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
But I.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
There's a lot of folks who can't stay at a
Sunday m h. And like yourself, you don't get made
whole by Major League Baseball. They don't say, hey, come
to a future you live in Cincinnati, go to a
future Reds game.
Speaker 3 (12:31):
Yeah, that's kind of crypy. Yeah, I mean, I have noise.
It was the worst event that I've ever been to.
I mean, I think we did the math while we
were sitting there for hours just doing nothing. I think
what eighty five thousand tickets times two hundred bucks a ticket,
seventeen million dollars something along those lines. Yeah, and so
obviously it's always costed put the whole thing on.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
But yeah, no, I just what I don't like about
it is A, you had a bad experience. B there's
gonna be a lot of folks who are like, see,
that's stupid to even try something like this. I don't
think it is. Baseball typically does these events really well.
And again, like I thought, watching on TV, it looked cool.
I didn't have a huge interest in going, but it
looked cool on TV.
Speaker 3 (13:07):
It's especially difficult too, when the weather in Cincinnati is
seventy five degrees. It's perfect, and people are like, we
skipped out on a home game for this. My Also,
here's my other theory too, is so the game starts
at nine point forty, they play that half inning, and
then by ten fifteen we're in another delay. I think
around ten forty five they totally said all right, we're
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doing this tomorrow. Really, from ten forty five on it
didn't rain.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (13:34):
And so my my thought process is they were probably
right with the forecast about starting it around ninety ninety five,
but things had gotten so bad in the concourses that
they're like, we can't play this game right now. We
can't do this for another eight innings, is my guess.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
And I wonder I wonder what role Fox played. I
don't know any answer. I'm sure they did play a
big role. I wonder what role well that sucks, man.
I was looking on social media yesterday morning and I
saw sat folks who were like, you were not the
first person that I saw describe it as Firefest yeah right,
which is the famous documentary the jaw rule thing.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
But I saw that often.
Speaker 3 (14:15):
They ran out of like hot dog buns, and like
then by the time we got to the front of
our line, the nacho cheese you could tell was like
fresh out of the bag.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
It wasn't even warmed.
Speaker 3 (14:24):
And then eventually they ran out of the nacho cheese
and so they're just giving people nachos. It was like
the photos were actually they looked just like Firefest.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
Yeah not good man.
Speaker 3 (14:35):
And so I I tweeted like I was angry when
I tweeted originally, and then I was like, you know what,
I probably shouldn't have said that, like I'm here and
it's cool.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
And then but see, it's not cool because you paid.
I don't know what you paid, but you buy a ticket.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
There's a certain level of expectation that Major League Baseball
should be able to meet.
Speaker 3 (14:57):
I will say, like I didn't pay an outrage my toe.
We had six people. We split it up two nights
at an Airbnb in Virginia. The tickets everything, total price
was probably three hundred bucks.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
All right, But so you buy a ticket for something,
there is a baseline level of expectation that includes making
sure you don't run out of hot dogs.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (15:15):
Wow, And apparently they got like some food in Sunday.
I don't know how they did that. I truthfully have
no idea how. I don't know if they went into
a freezer for the NASCAR races and said, all right,
we'll just take everything out.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
Like I can understand Sunday there being some logistical issues
just with folks who weren't planning on working on Sunday.
Now you got to call them back to work. And
I mean I understand that to a degree. I do
not understand running out of hot dogs and nacho cheese
and buns and things.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
Did they run out of beer?
Speaker 3 (15:46):
I believe some places did. Yes, I think so well done.
All right, man, thanks, no problem. Unbelievable.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
That's our guy, Austin. We are way late. His partner
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