8/15/25 - The Mo Egger Radio Show - Mo Egger

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
These preseason football.

Speaker 2 (00:02):
Will Joe Burrow and Bengals be ready to roar against
Jaycon Daniels and the Commanders on Monday Night Football. It's
a big skin power struggle. Get the call live from
Dan Wood and Dave Lapham. Coverage begins Monday at six
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a Cincinnati Bag.

Speaker 3 (00:24):
Yes, all right, we're gonna do that. What's up? Five
after three? This is ESPN fifteen thirty.

Speaker 4 (00:29):
I'm Olegard. Thank you for listening. It's Friday afternoon, man.
I hope your weekends off to an awesome start. It's
a Friday afternoon. Reds are home this weekend, half game
out of the Wildcard Big Series with the Brewers. Tell
you something, man, three years ago when the Reds lost
one hundred games, these are the sort of series we
were dreaming of. And they're not catching Milwaukee. I think

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that's fair to say. But come on, man, hottest team
in baseball, team with the best record in baseball coming
to town in the Reds, this close to a playoff spot.
It should be fun this weekend at gabp We're gonna
go to Milwaukee in twenty minutes and find out why
the Brewers are so good. Full show previews available on
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Federal Credit Union golf outing, which is why I will
not be here. So if you have signed up, you
have a chance to beat my forsome. If you haven't
signed up, well guess what, You're not gonna beat my forsome,
which maybe you wouldn't have anyway, I don't know. Tony

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Pike on the day at Bengals training camp, which for
us was another day talking about one particular Bengal and
we're gonna spend some time on that here in a second,
this is my hope, This is my wish that the
Reds are doing something kind of clever that's within the rules,
that's very Unreds like. This is what I sincerely hope. So,

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Chase Burns is on the injured list with a right flexorstrain.
Joelasaurs is up from Louisville. Chase Burns may be injured.
He may be in pain. The injury he's dealing with,
or the pain he's dealing with may prove to be
not that big of a deal. And maybe he comes
back from this pain and he pitches in September and

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he pitches well, or maybe not. Maybe he's dealing with
pain that's gonna cause the Reds to sideline him for
the rest of the season. Perhaps maybe this ends up
being a long term thing. I certainly hope not We
all hope that Chase Burns, if he's injured, if he's hurt,
is able to come back as quickly as possible. Here

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is my sincere wish that he's not really hurt, and
that what they're doing is conserving Chase Burns, putting him
on an innings restriction, saving the bullet that is Chang's
Chase Burns until later in the season, and not using him,

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but also not carrying him on the active roster, so
they're essentially playing shorthanded.

Speaker 3 (03:10):
That's the hope here.

Speaker 4 (03:11):
Now, I'm not conspiratorial enough, and I'm not irresponsible enough.
As irresponsible as I am in many areas of my life,
I'm not irresponsible enough to tell you, hey, guys, forget
that injury, he's not really hurt.

Speaker 3 (03:27):
I'm not gonna do that.

Speaker 4 (03:28):
I'm not gonna do that unless I hear from someone
who has insight that I trust, I'm not gonna do that.
And if I hear from someone who's like, dude in
my hand hurt, I'll I'll share those thoughts. Until now,
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (03:45):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (03:47):
I do think, though, and I don't think this is
being that conspiratorial. I don't think this is being that irresponsible.
I do think, though, that it would be unser prizing
to find out that the Reds are just telling Chase
Burns sit on the sides for a couple of weeks,

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get your throwing in, and we'll see in September. Rosters
expand to twenty eight players September one, and we're gonna
throw you back out there when you know you're eligible
to come off the injured list. And then when we
throw you out there, ideally still in the thick of
a playoff push, we don't really have to worry about

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an innings limit because we've spent basically three three and
a half weeks having you not pitch any innings at all.
And if they do that it's pretty smart. It's within
the rules. It's manipulating things. It's not cheating, Michigan football fans,
it's not cheating. It's using something at your disposal. We
could take a guy, put him on the injured list,

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say that he's dealing with a right flexor strain, yet
bring him back, and we'd rather have him in September.
But yeah, you know, there isn't innings limit, So in
the short term, what we're gonna do is not play shorthanded.
One of the frequent criticisms of the Reds over the
years has been that they often play shorthanded. How many times,

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going back a long time, how many times has there
been a situation where player is hurt and they're not
gonna put him on the injured list, but he also
isn't available, and they're gonna kind of take a day
to day and they're playing shorthanded while he's not available,
And then it turns out they put him on the
injured list anyway, and you're like, why didn't you just
do that to begin with? So you at least have

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twenty six healthy bodies who are available. If you decide
Chase Burns isn't going to pitch for a while and
you don't put them on the injured list, then you're
effectively playing shorthanded.

Speaker 3 (05:46):
Good for the Reds. If if, if this.

Speaker 4 (05:49):
Is what they're doing, good for the Reds for deciding
to not play shorthanded. It's pretty savvy, it's pretty smart.
I don't know if it's true. I hope it. Like
there's two scenarios here right. One is Chase Burns is
actually dealing with something mildly serious at least, and the
other is, even if he's dealing with some pain, the

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Reds could put him on the shelf for a few weeks,
bring him back in September. And by the way, if
the Reds fall apart and we get to September one
and it turns out actually they've gone in the tank
and they're not in the playoff race, okay, well then
you know you can decide to bring Chase Burns back
or decide not to bring Chase Burns back. But if
they're in the thick of things, which I think they

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will be, then you've got a bullet you could use
rested and you don't have to manage September at least
thinking nearly as much about an inning's limitation. Again, I
am not gonna assume that that's what they're doing. I
am not going to assert that that's what they're doing.
I'm not that irresponsible. Unlet's be honest, it would be

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unsurprising if we found out that's what they were doing.
And if it is what they are doing, it's pretty
I'm smart.

Speaker 3 (07:00):
We will see.

Speaker 4 (07:01):
Twelve minutes after three o'clock, I get an email here
from Buddy telling me we are being unfair to Lucas Patrick.
Lucas Patrick is probably a great dude.

Speaker 3 (07:11):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (07:14):
Lucas Patrick has had a pretty long NFL career, and
congratulations to him for having a pretty long NFL career, Like,
good for him, played a long time in this league,
thirty two years old, he's you know, fully vested NFLPA member.
He's played in over one hundred NFL games. Good for that, dude.

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What we have seen from Lucas Patrick so far has
been underwhelming in practice, in the preseason game. And I
say this, and I say this not to be mean
to Lucas Patrick, who I'm sure is a wonderful human being,
but I said the other day when Lucas Patrick and
the topic was, you know, Shamar Stewart getting too close
to Joe Burrow. I said, I've heard more about Lucas
Patrick complaining about Shamar Stewart, and I've heard about him

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actually blocking anybody. I watched him in practice today, not
have a good day. I've been to now ten of
those practices. Lucas Patrick has failed to stand out. Maybe
he will, and maybe he will on Monday night. Play
it at such a high level that you're like, you
know what, we have our offensive line, Orlando Brown, Dylan Fairchild,

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Ted Carris, Lucas Patrick and Amarus Mims. Go get him,
keep Joe Burrow upright. But like there's there's skepticism with
a guy like this. The Cincinnati Bengals get criticized for
what they have and haven't done on the offensive line.
We've harped on it now for a decade, but it
hasn't been because of lack of effort. In a let's

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see here six year stretch, they used two first round
picks on offensive linemen, they used another one in the
second round and on offensive linemen. They once in the
offseason spent big money on free free agents on the
offensive line, then came back and gave Orlando Brown a
massive deal. They signed Trent Brown last year like they

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they have tried. It hasn't been bargain basement. They haven't
just you know, constantly relied on other teams trash like
they have tried. And let's be honest, nothing has really worked.
Nothing has really worked. The Bengals for years have had
a below average offensive line. They have found ways to
win at times in spite of it. The offensive line
has had moments of quality play here and there. But

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for a long time now that they've been trying to
fix their offensive line and no matter what they've done,
whether it's the draft, free agency, developing dudes who they
took later in the draft, nothing has worked. They've tried
different offensive line coaches. Scott Peters is going to be
Zach Taylor's third offensive line coach, which is a pretty

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remarkable ratio for an NFL coach in his seventh year
Zach Taylor. So they've tried coaches, draft picks, free agents,
They've tried everything. Nothing has worked. So I'm suddenly supposed
to believe that the solution is Lucas Patrick. By the way,
this skepticism would be built in about almost anybody. But

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I've got a team that has tried everything on the
offensive line, nothing has worked. And the player they're trying
this go round is not having a great training camp.

Speaker 3 (10:23):
What else are we supposed to say about the.

Speaker 4 (10:25):
Guy until he performs well in a public setting, and
the preseason game on Monday night is a more public
setting than a training camp practice. Tony Pike was there.
We'll chat with him. Coming up at three forty five.
The Milwaukee Brewers are in town. They've won twelve consecutive
games now. Milwaukee's been a mainstay for a while in
the postseason. They've made the playoffs seven out of eight years.

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They've won a bunch of division titles. They are the
franchise the Red should aspire to be this year, though
they've taken it to a different level. They're thirty two
over five hundred, They've got the best market and baseball.

Speaker 3 (11:01):
How are they doing this?

Speaker 4 (11:02):
We'll go to Milwaukee and ask that question next on
ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati Sports.

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Station Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen thirty Traffic.

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Speaker 4 (11:28):
Milwaukee Brewers are thirty two games over five hundred.

Speaker 3 (11:31):
We're used to them being good. We're used to them
being this good.

Speaker 4 (11:35):
They come to Cincinnati having won twelve straight games. Redsdent
Brewers tonight, six forty from GABP. I'm owegar, this is
ESPN fifteen thirty.

Speaker 7 (11:44):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (11:44):
In our business, there are few better than this guy.
The host of the Bill Michael Show, which is a
four hours I can't imagine doing four hours every day.

Speaker 3 (11:52):
I can barely do three. Uh.

Speaker 4 (11:54):
He covers Milwaukee sports, Wisconsin sports, sports throughout the Midwest,
the Green Bay Packers, the Wisconsin Badgers, and I'm sure
he's very heavy on them, excuse me, very heavy on
the m Milwaukee Brewers these days. And he used to
work here and he's from this area. The great Bill
Michael says with us, what's up, sir, what.

Speaker 8 (12:13):
Is going on?

Speaker 9 (12:13):
I'm you know, I'm looking forward to mo to coming
back home. We'll say, because I got my my forty
year class reunion for Elder High School coming up on
October tenth.

Speaker 3 (12:23):
Wow.

Speaker 9 (12:24):
Yeah, I can't believe I'm that old already. So I'm
coming back and I'm going to roam the halls of Elder.

Speaker 8 (12:28):
For a couple of days.

Speaker 4 (12:28):
All right, Well, you know I didn't go to Elder,
but I live on the west side, so our paths
will hopefully cross.

Speaker 9 (12:35):
Yes on a skyline, That's what I'd like to do,
because I see you eating skyline on your Instagram post
all the time, and you're killing me up here.

Speaker 8 (12:41):
You're killing me.

Speaker 4 (12:41):
You do not have to ask me twice to go
to skyline. We will make that happen. On May seventeenth,
the Milwaukee Brewers lost to the Minnesota Twins seven and
nothing to fall to twenty one and twenty five. There
are now thirty two games over five hundred. What changed, Well.

Speaker 9 (12:59):
There's a couple of things. They were kind of foundering.
They were a team that looked like they were going
to be about a five hundred team all season long.
And I at the time I had asked Pat Murphy, like,
what's the problem, because it seemed like there was something
missing chemistry wise in the clubhouse and he said, you know,
it's really not the clubhouse.

Speaker 8 (13:17):
He said, it's misplaced energy. And I asked him what he.

Speaker 9 (13:21):
Meant by that, and he said, it's misplaced energy that
they're trying to kind of they're all on the same page,
they just don't have something to bring it all together.
And then they got the win on May twenty seventh.

Speaker 8 (13:36):
They started to win a few baseball games.

Speaker 9 (13:38):
Then they got the win on May twenty seventh, and
the tenth inning it was a walk off grand slam
by Christian Yelich.

Speaker 8 (13:45):
Then they won the next.

Speaker 9 (13:46):
Night in ten innings against Boston again and they ended
up sweeping that series.

Speaker 8 (13:50):
And ever since then they've been on fire.

Speaker 9 (13:53):
And he said to me at that point, and I
kind of hate to equate it to the movie Major
League with the passing of Bob Yucker, but it was
like when lou bren said, we needed something to get
it all together.

Speaker 8 (14:03):
And that's what it was.

Speaker 9 (14:04):
It was all of a sudden, they started believing in themselves,
and then you saw that youthful exuberance that Murphy likes
to have in his clubhouse start to come back. And
ever since then they've been on a tear I mean,
you go back to May eighteenth, when they were foundering
and really not playing that.

Speaker 8 (14:19):
Great a baseball.

Speaker 9 (14:20):
Since then, they're fifty four and nineteen, which is just
like amazing. Now, on May twenty third, they were six
and a half games back and they were starting to
play good baseball, but the Cubs were playing well too.
Then on June seventeenth and eighteenth, they were six and
a half games back. Since then, they are now eight
games over. They've made up fourteen and a half games

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in the standings, and this run is just remarkable.

Speaker 4 (14:44):
They don't have a position player who was an All Star,
and they have some guys who are having nice seasons
right like Kristian Yelich is having a nice season, But
there's there's no one who you look at statistically and
they just jump off the page. So offensively, how are
they doing this?

Speaker 9 (15:00):
That's a great question. I mean, if you look throughout
the season, they're not power hitters. So for most of
the season, I think right now that rank like eighteenth
of Major League Baseball. But since the beginning of August,
they're second in Major League Baseball, only behind the Arizona Diamondbacks.
But Contreras, who's got a broken finger. He's playing the
season with a broken finger. He had been struggling mightily.
Then they picked up Denny Jansen from the Tampa Bay Rays,

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and you're like, that was kind.

Speaker 8 (15:24):
Of a minor pickup.

Speaker 9 (15:24):
But Janson's been catching a little bit more, giving Contreras
a break, and ever since the All Star break he's
hitting three point fifty five. You know Contrera's is and
it's just a matter of giving him a break. Then
you package that with picking up Vaughan when Savale remember
they ended up bringing up Misarowski and Savally really didn't
have a spot for him in the rotation, and he
demanded a trade, so they said, okay, no problem. Then

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they look and they see Vaughn sitting in the minor
league system, who was a third or fourth overall pick
for the Chicago White Sox. They said, hey, we'll trace
you Savally for this guy and the White Sox. I
remember when they made the trade, and White Sox fans
up here were killing this guy.

Speaker 8 (15:58):
He stinks.

Speaker 9 (15:58):
He sucks a terrible pick. They're comparing him to Mitch Trubisky.
Since he's been here, he's hitting three forty five. Everything
that they saw on him as a top draft pick,
came to Fruition. He went to the minors first, and
he got a little bit humbled. Then he came here
and he said, it's night and days.

Speaker 8 (16:14):
It's night and day.

Speaker 9 (16:15):
Clubhouse, it's night and day organization. You're playing for something.
Everybody's on the same page. There's something to be said
for not only what goes on in the field, but
what goes on behind closed doors in a clubhouse. And
Pat Murphy has just created an incredible culture here. And Murphy,
I don't know if you noticed, he's a former boxer, right,
and he talks about everything in a boxing sense, like, Hey,

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if we lose a game, that means we lost around,
but we didn't lose the match.

Speaker 8 (16:39):
So you're not gonna get down.

Speaker 9 (16:40):
You're gonna come back and fight and try to beat
their butt the next day.

Speaker 8 (16:43):
And that's the way he kind.

Speaker 9 (16:44):
Of matriculates his philosophy is through the boxing analogy to
all these guys. And now you got the guy picking
out pocket pancakes and eaten pancakes out of his pocket
during a game, and people are now giving him brownies
and all this different stuff, and he's like, yeah, don't
hit me in the butt.

Speaker 8 (16:59):
There's old sugar back there now, you know. It just
the guy's just a fun guy to play for, but
he's also.

Speaker 9 (17:04):
A very smart and very gut into it intelligence baseball man.

Speaker 4 (17:08):
It just it feels to me, you know, Craig Council
left and I know there were a lot of hurd feelings,
maybe mainly because you know of where he decided to go,
but I mean, he's a Milwaukee guy, so a lot
of hurd feelings there. How long did it take Pat
Murphy to get people to stop talking about the guy
he replaced.

Speaker 9 (17:26):
Well, he won Manager of the Year last year, and
I think people still talk about Craig, but in the
light of how badly they want.

Speaker 8 (17:34):
To beat him.

Speaker 9 (17:35):
And as you had mentioned, had he gone anywhere else,
it's no big deal, you know. But he went to
the Cubs and he did it kind of like in
the middle of the night. But what I know is
that when they made the Josh Hater trade some years
ago for money, basically because the Hater was going to
go and become a free agent and they didn't want
to just lose them, so instead they traded them away.
But don't forget they were in the midst of a

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Pennant Race at that point in time. That told Craig Council,
you care more about money than you do about winning.
And Brandon Woodriff told me that too. He said, man,
that just deflated our clubhouse. They underestimated the impact of
that guy. And there's a long story behind it, with
his child being sick and everything, and basically all the
guys in that clubhouse pulling for him.

Speaker 8 (18:12):
That's when Counsel kind of made the decision, I'm going
to go elsewhere and see what I can do to
raise the level of pay for managers.

Speaker 9 (18:17):
That being said, you know, Brewers fans are like good riddings.
And now you're starting to think was he the brains
behind Because Craig counc remember played for Pat Murphy back
in college, So now you're thinking, was Pat Murphy the
brains behind all of this, kind of the open door policy,
brains behind all of this, the likable father figure behind
all of this. And now you just look at the
results and you're just you know, you're thinking, wow. I mean,

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this is a guy that has sat five out of
his starting players. He sat Jackson Schurio for making a
bonehead of mistake. He sat Bryce terrang for making a
bonehead of base running mistake. He sat Joey Ortiz because
he wasn't taking the right pitches, he wasn't working at
count properly.

Speaker 8 (18:54):
He sat Isaac Collins.

Speaker 9 (18:56):
He sat Reyes Hoskins at one point because Hoskins was
in a and wanted to keep hitting through it, and
he said, no, you're not.

Speaker 8 (19:02):
You're gonna sit for a while because you're not doing
this any good.

Speaker 9 (19:04):
This is a guy that believes in accountability too, so
that raises your level of play.

Speaker 4 (19:08):
You know what it's like in a small market right where,
especially during the offseason, you see the money the Dodgers
throw at players, So you see the money the Yankees
throw at players, or the Red Sox.

Speaker 3 (19:18):
Whoever.

Speaker 4 (19:18):
Maybe Boston's not the best current example, and fans will complain, well,
we can't compete with that. In my take is always
all right, cool, you can't compete with the Dodgers, how
about compete with the Milwaukee Brewers. They've been in the
postseason now what six of the last seven years. They're
shoeing to make it this year and they do it
despite you know, they got rid of Josh Hater. Corbyn
Burns is no longer there. William Domas moved on this offseason.

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They have a different manager. Now why are they good
every year?

Speaker 9 (19:46):
They have taken up the philosophy of find the players
that Mesh Wealding in the clubhouse together. Don't get me wrong,
you got to get good players. I think there's four
components to really being good and winning a championship. One is, obviously,
you got to be good. The other one is you
gotta be lucky, you got be healthy, and you got
to get hot. All all four of those things have
to come together. But I think what they have done
is we are going to concentrate on three specifics and

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none of them have anything to do with hitting, speed, defense.

Speaker 8 (20:12):
And pitching. They have been when they were one of the.

Speaker 9 (20:14):
First teams to put that pitching lab into their spring
training facility out in Maryville, Arizona. And I'm sure you've
probably been over to Maryvale and seen a lot of
the upgrades that they've made. But they put that pitching
lab in and that has been very, very, very beneficial
for them.

Speaker 8 (20:27):
Number two is team speed.

Speaker 9 (20:28):
This team makes you think before the ball even gets
to your glove, and it was very much on display
the other day when you saw them play the New
York Mets and the Mets, the Mets not only committed
three errors, but they had errors at shortstop with Francisco
Lindor who had two of them. And then they had
Mauricio come off the bench as a defensive replacement to

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play third base, and he made an error. Because they
have so much team speed, if you don't make a
clean play, if they're safe at first, and all of
a sudden you've got runners, and then they're basically a
single or a walk becomes all because they steal bases
with the best of them. Same thing with a triple.
So first of all, they got team speed. Second of all,
with that speed, they can get the things that a
lot of teams can't. And they can track balls down
between Blake Perkins and South Freelick. Now Blake Perkins is

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on the bereavement list, who won't be in Cincinnati, But
between Blake Perkins and South Freelick, nothing gets to the
right side from centerfield to the right over. You can't
get one into the gap. They're so fast. And then
you look at just good pitching and who would have
thought that you'd be sitting here today When you look
at the rotation, and now you've got Misserowski coming back
tonight to face the Reds. But you've got Freddie Perrault

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to Brandon Woodriff, and Woodrif since he came back from
the shoulder surgery, has not been beaten. They made the
trade early on with Boston for Quinn Priester, who has
been fantastic. They revitalize the career of Jose Kintana, and
then you throw, oh, by the way, Miserowski, who averages
one hundred and one miles an hour with incredible breaking
stuff and that youthful enthusiasm, plus't Trevor McGill and Abner
Uribe in the back end of the bullpens. You look

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at this and you go, anybody can win on any
given day, and you know as well as I do,
you're only as good as that day starting pitcher. And
if that day starting pitcher is always going to give
you an opportunity to win.

Speaker 8 (22:05):
And you've got team speed. That's the way they're getting
it done.

Speaker 3 (22:08):
When do you get your free hamburgers.

Speaker 9 (22:11):
You know what's funny is they got a George Web
about maybe a half a mile from my house, and
there were people lined up yesterday. I mean they have
anything announce when they were giving them out at that point,
and people are in there demanding free hamburgers. It is
next Wednesday. So you go up the street, you get
your voucher, and then next Wednesday, at any point in time,
you can come in and redeem your voucher for a
free hamburger. And I have never seen somebody so many

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people in the Midwest live by the motto, if it's.

Speaker 8 (22:35):
Free, it's for me. Holy Macro? Are they going to
give away a lot of burgers? Holy Macro?

Speaker 4 (22:38):
Now we got to do something similar here. Maybe we'll
get Skyline to do that and you'll be here for it.

Speaker 3 (22:43):
Who knows. I appreciate the time.

Speaker 8 (22:44):
Man.

Speaker 9 (22:45):
I would drive down for that. If they're giving out
free conies, that would drive down for that.

Speaker 4 (22:48):
All right, Well we'll see what we'll see if I
can pull some strings, right all right, you're the best, Thanks.

Speaker 8 (22:54):
Man, absolutely by tuk you soon.

Speaker 4 (22:57):
To one of the absolute best in our business and
at Elder product. Bill Michaels the Bill Michaels Show weekdays
ten to ten to two.

Speaker 3 (23:04):
I was gonna say ten to noon.

Speaker 4 (23:05):
That's two hours ten to two across a whole slew
of Wisconsin and Illinois affiliates. Reds and Brewers Tonight should
be a lot of fun sports headlines, and we have
to spend some time on these Bengals positional rankings.

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neither Cincinnati or Milwaukee has posted a starting lineup tonight. However,
we can tell you. We can tell you a couple
of different things. One is that Chase Burns has been
placed on the injured list with what the Reds are
calling a Grade one flexer strain. Joela Sorsa is back. Also,

(24:46):
Wayde Miley is set to start a rehab assignment at Chattanooga.
Nick Martinez and Jacob Mizrowski are going to be your
starting pitchers. Miss Rowski, you should probably know, was the
kid who was selected as an All Star after making
just five five.

Speaker 3 (24:59):
Big league appearances. So there you go. Reds are two
and five this season.

Speaker 4 (25:05):
Against Milwaukee, Florence y'alls are taking on Tra rivieras a gals.
I did not say that correctly. Let me try again.
They're playing a team from Canada. I believe Florence y'all's
are playing on the road tonight. You can't go to
the game here. Is anybody obsessing over who the opponent is?

Speaker 3 (25:26):
Probably not.

Speaker 4 (25:26):
Bengals practice this morning. Miles Murphy and no Go Orlando
Brown was back Gino Stone working out in the rehab field.
Bengals and Commanders on Monday. That game we'll kick off
at eight o'clock on.

Speaker 3 (25:40):
ESPN fifteen thirty.

Speaker 4 (25:42):
Michigan got punished. Maybe they didn't get the book thrown
at them, but they're gonna be fined and the financial
cost they estimate is going to be roughly twenty million
dollars show cause penalty ten years for Jim Harbaugh, eight
for Connor. Stallion's Sharon Mork gets an other game tacked
onto his suspension, which the self and posed suspension was

(26:04):
two games this year, weeks three and four. I have
no idea why you get to pick which weeks you're
going to be suspended and then another game in the
twenty twenty sixth season you see wrapped up fall camp today.
The Cincinnati Open resumes tonight. Friend of the Show Ben
Shelton will be on center court this evening. It's quarterfinal
day and night for both the WTA and ATP in Mason.

Speaker 3 (26:27):
There you go.

Speaker 4 (26:27):
I sent a tweet about tennis yesterday that I think
some tennis folks didn't like. I went up and I
spent yesterday morning and early afternoon at the Cincinnati Open,
which is an event that I love. Love that event
and what they've done with the grounds is awesome and
it's some of the best people watching. It's easy in,

(26:47):
it's easy out, it's good food. If you really want
to enjoy the people watching post up at the bar
right there in the center of the food court. It's
it's a blast, and I have. I've been tennis fan
since I was eight years old. Now it's a sport
that I don't follow as closely as others. I would
say I like it like I love baseball and I

(27:07):
love football. I like tennis, But I put on Twitter
yesterday the tennis, like hockey, is a sport that I
enjoy and love attending in person, but that I do
not tweet about because sometimes hardcore fans of those two
sports are not as welcoming to casuals like myself, and
some didn't like that. My apologies. I like Ben Shelton

(27:31):
plays tonight. If I put on Twitter looking forward to
watching Ben Shelton tonight, I get like in my face, like,
oh yeah, bet, you can't name the country that won
that Davis Cup in nineteen eighty nine, like nuh, I can't, sorry,
can I still watch Ben Shelton? Or if I say like, man,
that's awesome Madison Keys won a major. She's you know,
had so many, like you know, heartbreaking moments in big tournaments,

(27:54):
I'll get like, yeah, who the semi finalists in the
eighty seven Virginia Slims?

Speaker 3 (27:59):
Like man, I don't know, ude.

Speaker 4 (28:01):
And my hockey experience on Twitter is similar, where it's
like if I tweet about the Blue Jackets or something,
I instantly get quizzed on who the backup goaltenders are
and I don't know who they are. It's okay to
be a casual fan, but anyway, that's I like those
sports immenseally. I wish I could go to the Cincinnati
Open every day and night that it's in town. And

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I watch more Grand Slam Tennis than you would probably
imagine if you listen to the show on a regular basis.
But like, I don't know all the pronunciations of every
single player, you know, I don't follow the tournaments that
take place, you know, in off weeks when they're not
majors and they're not here, and so hardcore tennis person

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sometimes not very welcoming to someone like myself, but the
Cincinnati Open always is, and they always have the best
looking gear in their pro shop, even if it is
the sort of stuff that if you buy, you have to, like,
you know, not pay your rent for a month or something.

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Speaker 4 (29:54):
Tony, Let's talk about what we watched that was good
at today's trade camp practice And I think what was
good was the connection between Joe Burrow, his wide receivers
and the team's top running uns.

Speaker 10 (30:03):
Yep, there are videos spread all across the internet today
of red zone throws down the middle of the field,
seam throws t Higgins over the middle, which he's made
a living on, and the one constant in all of
the completions, no one's running free, great coverage, unbelievable throw,

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great catches all around. A great day from Joe Burrow
and the skilled players on the Bengals offense. And again,
that's if you're out Golden and you broke from practice
and you went in and watched the tape, you're probably
not angry at some of the completions.

Speaker 11 (30:37):
That's just a.

Speaker 10 (30:38):
Unbelievable quarterback who arguably is the best in the league,
with the best wide receiver in the league. That stuff
is going to happen. But what I thought even jumped
out more and you hit it. Chase Brown. We saw
a couple explosive runs, but he made a couple plays
in the passing game today which running backs should not
be able to make, and Demitrius Knight had great coverage
on one of them, still made the catch. He was

(30:59):
put on an angle route one on one with a linebacker,
which opened the middle of the field. No linebacker in
the league is covering that. I don't think you could
be more impressed. And I think, as we talked today,
are our standout of the day at what Chase Brown
is doing.

Speaker 4 (31:15):
Yeah, he's been terrific and the talk all off season
has been about expanding his role as a pass receiver.

Speaker 3 (31:21):
We saw that in action today.

Speaker 4 (31:23):
Today's offensive line performance I don't think was as bad
as when we were at practice on Wednesday, but it
wasn't great.

Speaker 10 (31:30):
It wasn't as bad from a team setting. They did
some stuff they added. We saw a lot with Drew
Sample or tight ends in the backfield as well some
more max protect seven man protections, which I think helped
a little bit.

Speaker 8 (31:40):
But when these two sides.

Speaker 10 (31:42):
Split and it went o line D line one on one,
there was not a lot of resistance from the offensive line.
Now A Maris Mims missed a lot of those reps
as he was a little bit banged up, but did
come back for the goal line portion of training camp.
But by all accounts, I thought offensive skill won the day.
But defensive line, let's call what it is head their

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way with the offensive line in those individual settings.

Speaker 3 (32:05):
All right, Tony, thanks so much.

Speaker 4 (32:07):
Tony joins us again at four forty five, and he's
going to be back with me at five twenty today,
and we are not going to.

Speaker 3 (32:12):
Talk about football.

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Speaker 3 (33:06):
I'm I'm kind.

Speaker 4 (33:07):
Of curious just as to folks confidence level when it
comes to the early portion of the season where the
Bengals are going to be heavily favored against the Browns
week one, big favorites against the Jags Week two, and
then have to go on the road for the third
game against Minnesota Terrens Minnesota Vikings.

Speaker 3 (33:23):
So uh, there's that.

Speaker 4 (33:24):
Also, Connor Orsi, who has the Bengals going ten and seven,
also has them starting the season one in four and
we all hope that's not the case. I think it'll
be really interesting though. The storyline this offseason, minus I
guess Trey Hendrickson and Shamar Stewart has been how do
the Cincinnati Bengals play better early in the year. You

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may have heard they've recently not gotten off to a
good start last three years oh and two, last year
oh and three. What if they get off to another
slow start. What if they get off to another slow
start but still like recalibrate like they usually do to
make a run and still end up in the postseason.
What does next offseason look like? Back to the drawing

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board as it relates to the times of training camp practices,
or how they handle OTAs, or how they handle the preseason.
We will see, we will see. I mentioned this earlier.
I was going to get to it. ESPN dot coms
Mike Clay has ranked every NFL team at every position,

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so one through thirty two. At quarterback, he's got the
Bengals at four. I'd have him a little bit higher,
but four is still really good. Wide receiver number one,
tight end nineteen, offensive line thirty first, Like that's what
they're digging out of Pro Football Focus other services that

(34:49):
use metrics very very down on the Bengals offensive line
last year. Three of the same five starters are going
to be here this year. Starting guy is gonna be
a rookie. Right now, we're also talking about Lucas Patrick,
like we're not simply hoping for improvement from middle of

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the pack, We're hoping from massive improvement from bottom of
the pack. As Jacksonville at thirty two. He also has
the Bengals with the twenty seventh best running back room.
There are not twenty six better running back scenarios than
the one the Bengals have right now. Maybe they don't
have a top ten. Maybe they don't have a top five,

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they are twenty six better. I think they're running back room.
Now that's more than one guy. Their room has the
potential to be the best it's been in a very
very long time, and perhaps play themselves into let's just say,
the top half of the league. Mike Sando puts NFL
qbs into tiers. That and the Reds get a very

(35:52):
up close look at what they need to be this weekend.
All that coming up in the four o'clock hour on
ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports, Cincinnati's.

Speaker 1 (36:02):
Sports station, ESPN fifteen thirty.

Speaker 4 (36:06):
All right, exactly five minutes after four o'clock, this is
ESPN fifteen thirty. I'm Moeger. Thank you so much for
joining us. Hopefully your weekend is off to an awesome start.
We will jump back into Retz Brewers, and one more
thought on yesterday's topic on Hunter Green coming up in
fifteen minutes. I enjoy reading this every August, and we're

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lucky enough to get Mike Sando on with us every August.
He does for Theathletic dot Com Quarterback Tiers T I E.

Speaker 3 (36:35):
R S.

Speaker 4 (36:37):
We've had her, We've had a lot of QB T
E A R S. But he separates quarterbacks into different
tiers based on feedback from people in the NFL coaches,
head coaches, coordinators, GMS, personnel folks. It's always a really
good read. I like the rankings. I like reading what
is said about the different quarterbacks.

Speaker 3 (36:56):
This year. Joe Burrow is a unanimous tier on QB.

Speaker 4 (37:00):
So, as we bring Mike in for our annual chat,
first of all, thank you for joining us. As always,
I know you get pulled in a million different directions
to talk about these QB tiers. I would imagine you've
had no one from Cincinnati on Twitter yell at you.

Speaker 7 (37:14):
Well, yeah, not this year because unanimous tier one. I mean,
you can't do better than that was he supposed to
get fifty one out of fifty in tier one.

Speaker 4 (37:20):
Oh oh, I'm sure I can find somebody who would
say something to that effect.

Speaker 8 (37:24):
Here.

Speaker 7 (37:26):
They might say Mahomes should be lowered, he should get
he shouldn't be tied with Mahomes, right. Actually, I've heard
from Kansas City fans saying, how can anybody be in
Mahomes t here? You know, So, I think Mahomes is
probably still in that top spot. Until somebody stops him
from playing in the Super Bowl every year.

Speaker 4 (37:43):
You know, yeah, no, no, no question about that. What
I like doing with this is I like to go
back and look, and I like to go back and see,
you know, specifically with Joe Burrow here obviously, how he's risen,
you know, since he joined the NFL, and and what
has been said about him. And what's interesting is going
back a couple of years, there's always a defensive coach
who talks about the amount of hits that he takes.

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That's no different this year. Is that refrain with him
specifically being repeated more often than in previous years.

Speaker 7 (38:13):
I don't think so, because it seemed like he weathered
better last year. You know, I think it was talked
about more in terms of in the past, like is
it going to shorten his career? Is he going to
be able to stay on the field. I didn't feel
that as much this year. But I think he you know,
he's obviously had injury issues entering previous seasons or coming
out of previous seasons, so he feels a little cleaner

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that way this year, doesn't he.

Speaker 4 (38:36):
He does, yes, although you know there were times last
year where it felt like, man, they're playing with fire.
He was on the run, took so many hits. Maybe
that's been rectified. I think the other thing that stands
out to me is if you go back a couple
of years when you were writing about Joe Burrow, there
was you know, there were people who told you, like
pre snap, we still feel like we can fullham. We
feel like, you know, we can show him different looks,

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and now it feels like that's me. Maybe his biggest
attribute is that. Is that a good way of looking
at it.

Speaker 8 (39:04):
That's good.

Speaker 7 (39:04):
Yeah, I appreciate you going back and looking at that.
I think that is good context on him. He's to
a point now in his career, you know. I think
I think there was a comment in there this year
that you know, that's how you got to try to
beat him, right or you know, you got to try
to try to fool him.

Speaker 8 (39:18):
But I think it's hard to do. Increasingly hard to do.

Speaker 3 (39:21):
Is arm strength.

Speaker 4 (39:23):
When you talk to folks, maybe still the biggest reservation
beyond the fact that he's hit a lot, you.

Speaker 8 (39:29):
Know, it really doesn't come up.

Speaker 7 (39:30):
I think when you when you throw it, when you're
a great, when you're an accurate thrower, and an anticipatory thrower.
You know, you make up for that. I just think
of some of the great passers. I mean, Kurt Warner
was a great example. Nolan would put him on a
list of you know, the greatest arms in NFL history,
but he's one of the great passers. You know, his
best was deadly. So I think the Borough's arm strength

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is just fine. I don't think he's like lacking an
arm strength. It's just you know, he's not He doesn't
have a maybe one hundred mile in our fastball, but
he's throwing in the nineties. You know, he's fine.

Speaker 4 (40:01):
Yeah, no, you know that was the thing coming out
of coming out of college, right there were folks who
are like, well, we don't know about the arm strength,
and I would think, you know, maybe he doesn't have
an absolute canon. The arm strength is plenty, and I
think we've seen that over the course of his career.
I get the sense in reading this, and you know,
the NFL is really good when quarterback play is really good.

Speaker 3 (40:20):
There have been years where you've done.

Speaker 4 (40:21):
This exercise where you've had as few as like three
Tier one qbs.

Speaker 3 (40:25):
This year you have double that amount.

Speaker 4 (40:27):
It feels like when I read this and I see
some of the guys who are listed in Tier two
and Tier three. I feel like quarterback play is really
healthy in the NFL. Would you agree.

Speaker 7 (40:38):
It's young? I think that's that's what's different. I'm gonna
I love that you were looking at the past years.
I did this the other day and I looked at
I pulled up twenty twenty.

Speaker 8 (40:47):
Okay.

Speaker 7 (40:47):
I just wanted to see, like, what did Tier two
look like in twenty twenty, And it's fascinating. This is
Tier two in twenty twenty. Tom Brady, Lamar Jackson, Ben Roethlisberger,
Matt Stafford, Matt Ryan, Carson, Wentzza Prescott, and Philip Rivers.
There's a lot of guys in there that are like,
you know, maybe they had been ones before and they're
kind of hanging on and they're in the twos now,

(41:09):
but they're still really good, right yeah. Uh, And now
it feels like such a younger group. I mean, that's
the old guy in there now. But Jayden, Daniels, Herbert,
I guess, Goff's been around, but Stroud hurts, you know,
even Baker Mayfield, Jordan love Rock perty that this is
all new blood, Whereas I feel like those other guys

(41:29):
back then were uh, you know, guys who you could
make a Hall of Fame case for, you know. And
so the league has gotten much younger at the position.
In fact, I think I did a column the startup
last year, certainly the last couple of years, it was
like the youngest Week one starter since the nineteen fifties.

Speaker 8 (41:45):
Wow.

Speaker 7 (41:46):
And so I feel that in here, you feel like
there's a lot of guys in that Tier two who
maybe have a chance to ascend or grow into it,
but they're not just guaranteed locks to be there forever necessarily.

Speaker 4 (41:58):
Mike Sander was with us the Athletic dot Com. By
the way, I tweeted out a link if you want
to read the piece if you haven't already at Moeger
Is it unfair to the people that you talk to
that I was surprised to see Lamar Jackson get four
Tier two votes.

Speaker 7 (42:14):
Yeah, Josh Allen got three. So I mean to me,
that tells you more about those voters than it does
about the quarterbacks probably, you know. And I think there
was one guy who just had Burrow and Mahomes in
Tier one.

Speaker 8 (42:23):
I think there is.

Speaker 7 (42:24):
A you know, in some people most most people are
going to value passing over rushing for quarterbacks just in general.
And so I think you may get somebody on the
extreme end of that who thinks, hey, Mahomes is in
his own class. He's in the super Bowl all the time,
and you know they're eleven to zero one score games.
He's the best finisher in the league. And then they

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might say Burrow is the purest pastor of the rest.
You know that that's the most sustainable trait is passing,
and so the most important trade, and he's the best
at that. And then they may dock the Josh Allen
or the Lamar Jackson, who you know, maybe are a
little less consistent as passer, but you know, and rely
on their legs a little more. Even though I think
you can make a case that if you're a defensive coordinator,

(43:06):
shoot Josh Allen Lamar just might be a bigger pain
to prepare for than Mahomes Reborough.

Speaker 3 (43:11):
Yeah, no, there's there's there's certainly validity to that.

Speaker 4 (43:14):
I should know this answer because I have gone back
and run a bunch of the previous year's versions of this.

Speaker 3 (43:20):
Are there other years where there's.

Speaker 4 (43:22):
Been one guy by himself at the bottom and Tier
five like Kenny Pickett this.

Speaker 7 (43:25):
Year, I don't think so, you know, I didn't have
I wasn't gonna put Kenny Pickett in to it at all.
Like there's there's multiple guys like let me just look
at my thing here, like Mason Rudolph I had in it,
Sam Hal, Jake Hayner, Jameis Winston. I put a bunch
of guys in it just in case, because I start

(43:46):
after the draft and you never know, like if something
were to happen right like like I does before Rogers
was signed, So you're like, okay, I gotta be ready,
you know, or J. J.

Speaker 8 (43:55):
McCarthy's coming off his knee.

Speaker 1 (43:56):
I better have.

Speaker 7 (43:56):
Hall just in case, right, And so at the end,
I make a decision to exclude and you know, like
Mason Rudolph, Sam How Jake Hayner would have gotten into
Tier five too, but we decided as a team, okay,
let's put Picket in. And so he was sort of
a last minute edition. And I don't know if it's
fair to him to be comparing into a bunch of guys,

(44:18):
you know, with that maybe had better prospects right now,
but yeah, he's alone in Tier five and I actually
think he could be better than that. I think the
situation matters a lot for these guys. I don't think
Pittsburgh was a good situation when he went there those
years with Matt Canada. As I pointed out in the piece,
I mean, the offense was a tick better statistically under

(44:39):
Canada when when Pickett was in there compared to Big Ben.

Speaker 8 (44:42):
Not the picket was better.

Speaker 7 (44:43):
But I mean, you know, if Pickett had gone to
Minnesota with Kevin O'Connell, would he be seen the same way?

Speaker 8 (44:49):
Right? Like? I just feel like I feel like, yeah,
he's a five, but it's not to make fun of
you five, you know, Yeah?

Speaker 4 (44:55):
No, I uh well, I mean he's a browns QB,
so we have to make fun of him to a
But from where you stand, I get, yeah, you know,
that's just how it works. I look forward to to
this list coming out every single year, so many NFL
fans do, and you're always kind enough to join us.
Thanks so much, Mike, appreciate the time.

Speaker 8 (45:13):
Thank you really enjoyed it.

Speaker 4 (45:14):
Read his work The Athletic dot Com Mike Sando separating
qbs into tiers Joe Burrow Unanimous Tier one QB for
the first time in twenty twenty three. For context, he
got forty nine of fifty Tier one votes. One guy.
One voter had him a Tier two guy. I think
last year was a forty three seven split. He was

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coming off an injury. This year fifty votes, fifty Tier
one votes. There you go. Go read that at the
Athletic dot Com fourteen after four o'clock ESPN fifteen thirty
onm Oeger. We have a big series this weekend. Look,
we'll put it in the right context. The Reds are
not catching the Milwaukee Brewers, so it's it's not like
this is a big series because hey, they can put

(45:57):
a dent into that lead. Milwaukee has them. But look, man,
it's a home series against a good opponent. They're set
to go out West. The Mets are floundering right now.
Blew another game last night. They've pulled within a half game,
So you know, like this, this is a playoff race.
I hate to say Pennant race because to me, Pennant
race is, you know, a first place chase. But this

(46:20):
is a playoff race, and it's also an opportunity for
the Reds to get a very up close look at
the franchise they should aspire to be. So I brought
this up about an hour ago with our guests Bill
Michaels from Milwaukee. You and I hear it, And you
may say this all the time right in the offseason,

(46:40):
especially if the Dodgers spent a lot of money on
a free agent or the Mets or the Yankees or
someone like that. There's always the refrain, right, reds can't compete.
Reds can't compete with the Dodgers. And that's fine, Like
if you want to take swings at Baseball's economic structure,
that's completely fair. Maybe one it'll look different. I doubt

(47:01):
it ever will We will see, But okay, you can't
compete with the LA Dodgers. Can you compete with the
Milwaukee Brewers? You can't do what the Dodgers do? Can
you do what the Brewers do? Now? Milwaukee hasn't had
a postseason breakthrough yet, which is why I think this
year is going to be interesting for them, because you know,
let's say they are the one seed in the National League,

(47:23):
but they've made the postseason six out of seven years,
and parts of how they run their team you don't
love like you don't love letting Willie Damas get away.
You don't love trading Corbyn Burns before you should. You
don't love trading Josh Hater before you should. But regardless,
they're there every year, and so you know this is

(47:45):
it's an up close look. Milwaukee figures it out. They're
in the postseason every year. They win the Central on
a regular basis. Can that tide turn in favor of
the Rets? The big Reds news of the day is
Chase Burns. Chase Burns is going on the injured list.
I cannot emphasize this enough. I don't want to be

(48:07):
I don't want to be irresponsible, and I think it
would be irresponsible to act like I or anyone else
knows that this Chase Burns thing is not really about
him being hurt. It's they're trying to save them so
they could use them later. Right, there's only so many innings.
We'd rather have those innings come in September. We'd rather
use him when we're not having to keep as close

(48:28):
an eye on the innings because he's taken a couple
of weeks off. I don't want to be irresponsible and
just say that I've arrived at the conclusion that that's
what they're doing. But you kind of have to allow
for the possibility, and you might not, and you might
do more than allow.

Speaker 3 (48:44):
For the possibility.

Speaker 4 (48:46):
You might you might just acknowledge it's it's possible and
maybe even likely that this is what they're doing, and
if so, good for them. Manipulation is legal. Breaking the
rules is not manipulating things is you're not allowed to
break the rules. Michigan football broke the rules. You're allowed

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to manipulate things within the context of the rules. If
the Reds are doing that, good for them. It's a
smart strategy. Again, maybe he's dealing with some discomfort and
you know what, he's he's dealing with discomfort. He could
probably keep pitching, but you know what, we'll just we'll
put him on the shelf. We're kind of stacked right

(49:27):
now in the starting rotation. We're okay, we don't need
him in the bullpen right now. Hopefully he gets healthy
come September one we expand the rosters. He's good to go.
We'll see. It beats playing shorthanded, it beats not using him,
but keeping him on the active roster.

Speaker 3 (49:44):
So it's interesting.

Speaker 4 (49:47):
We'll see if I had to guess. I guess that's
what they're doing. But it's just a guess. We'll see.
Five point three seven four nine fifteen thirty is our
phone number. We talked a lot yesterday about Jason Williams's
column in The Inquirer. Also something I cannot emphasize enough.

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When we talk about what someone wrote, we're not talking
about the person who wrote it. We're talking about the
idea that was put forth. This is and I hate
that this is what this becomes because I saw it
on social media. Like, Jason did his job. He wrote
a thought provoking piece. It created conversation. I disagree with
the idea, like that's that's fine, that's that's that's good.

(50:30):
It's not about Jason as a guy, and I hate
that that's where this goes sometimes. Anyway, he he kind
of defended himself and defended his take on his back
and forth with Gordon Wittenmeyer, which I liked. I liked
he threw a shade at some folks on social media.
He might have thrown some shade at me. Hell, I
have no idea and I don't care. The Hunter Green situation,

(50:54):
the Hunter Green conversation, I should say, takes place against
the backdrop of what appears to be a little bit
of a disconnect between the Reds and how they would
have liked to have seen Hunter Green handle his recovery
and rehab, and how Hunter Green actually handled his recovery
and rehab. I don't think you have to read too

(51:17):
much between the lines to arrive at the conclusion that
the club, the organization, and Hunter Green were not exactly
on the same page. And I don't think it would
be far fetched if someone suggested that there's a little
bit of a disconnect between Hunter Green and his teammates
as a result. If that's the case, let's not trade them,

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the Michigan football thing here as well. So yeah, man,
we spent a lot of time on Jason Williams's column
on Hunter Green yesterday, and you know, Jason did it
back and forth with Gordon Wittenmeyer, which they do on

(53:14):
sinsini dot com all the time. And it's mentioned that
Hunter slow played his return from injury and that may
be a valid point, that may be a valid criticism,
and maybe him doing that has created a disconnect or
maybe some tension between Hunter and his teammates. I don't know.

(53:34):
I don't know, but if that is out there, would
make sense good understand why. And I gather and I
had a conversation with somebody who I would say is
quote in the know, who reflected some of the exasperation
that's there as it relates to how Hunter handled his
return from injury. Now, look, and I said this yesterday.
I usually defer to the athlete because I think athletes,

(53:58):
especially high end professional athletes, they know their bodies. But okay,
like I can understand it took a while. This was
the sort of injury that at face value, didn't feel
like it was going to require a two month stay
on the injured list. Could Hunter have done more? Could
he have accelerated his timeline? That possibility certainly is out there,

(54:18):
and it feels like there's many people who feel like
the answer is yes. And so maybe Hunter's got to
do some repairing of relationships with his teammates and maybe
others in the organization. And perhaps that is for you
what drives the conversation about maybe trading Hunter Green. The

(54:38):
Reds have a Hall of Fame manager who is renowned
for his communication skills, his ability to handle things. He's
also been at this job for a very long time.
I've always felt like a manager's impact has less to
do with who he decides to to bring in out

(55:00):
of the bullpen and where he decides to place hitters
in the batting order, though those things are important, and
more with, you know, ensuring that problems among the team
don't become major issues. Putting out fires if you will,
Why not give Terry Francona a chance to put out

(55:20):
a fire here if there is one, Like if there's
an issue between Hunter and others in the organization, maybe
with Tito Francona himself. But if there's some kind of
issue with how Hunter handled the return from his injury,
that's fine, that's fair, it's reasonable. Maybe there's every reason
to be exasperated with how Hunter handled his return, I'll

(55:43):
certainly allow for that. But okay, if there's a problem,
if there is a disconnect, if there's conflict, if there's
hurt feelings, if there's resentment, if you can't let Terry
Frank ConA fix all that or soothe it or massage it.

(56:07):
Then why'd you hire him? I get that kind of
the job of the manager, even if the issue is
between Hunter and the manager himself. All right, he is back,
Hunter is Hopefully he stays healthy. Hopefully it's a long
time before he goes on the injured list again. But okay,
can you give Hunter Green, who has a reputation for

(56:30):
being extraordinarily mature, and Tito Francona, who has I believe
a well deserved reputation for communication skills and handling the
mechanics of a clubhouse a team twenty six man roster.
How about this give Terry Francona a chance to fix
the relationship, either whether it's with him and Hunter Green

(56:53):
or Hunter Green and his teammates. Instead of uh oh,
there's a problem, trade.

Speaker 12 (56:57):
Him if if if one of the motivating factors here
is Hunter pissed off his teammates, so we've got to
move on from him.

Speaker 4 (57:13):
Well, then how bad is that clubhouse? How bad's the manager?

Speaker 3 (57:17):
Now?

Speaker 4 (57:17):
Most of us believe the clubhouse is not bad at all.
In fact, it feels like they have a really good
mix there and the manager is awesome. At what he does,
So why not let him be awesome at what he does?
And why not let the clubhouse culture that people have
raved about, why not let that just naturally fix whatever
issues there are between all those players and Hunter Green

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if there are issues. Five point three seven four nine
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Tony Pike is going to join us in just about
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Speaker 7 (01:00:12):
You need to read because I think you need to
read how the Reds tweeted the players line up, players
weekend lineup.

Speaker 3 (01:00:18):
How the Reds tweeted it and hang on x dot
com slash reds.

Speaker 4 (01:00:25):
Uh oh okay, so Terry they have Terry Lee, Spence, Coca, Miggy,
Luxei Hazy, Marty, Steve O, and Key with Nicky smiles
on the mound.

Speaker 3 (01:00:44):
Thank you, gotcha.

Speaker 4 (01:00:47):
I just went to MLB dot com backslash starting dash
lineups because I have found that they post them before
the Reds Twitter feed does not all the time, but
most of the time. What else do we have? Florence,
y'all play a team I've never heard of tonight on
the road. Oh, Wade Miley's going to start a rehab
assignment at Chattanooga. That's not the big injury news. The

(01:01:07):
big injury news, if you believe he's injured, is Chase
Burns goes on the IL retroactive to augusty twelfth, with
what they're calling a Grade one right flexor string. Joela
Soursa is up from Triple A Louisville. Has there been
a comment from Terry Francona at the ballpark on what

(01:01:28):
they've done with Chase Burns? Like, I don't know how
you ask the manager of the team, like, hey, Tito
is you know he's on the Ange list, but is
he really hurt? Bengals practice to morning practice this morning.
Suddenly I can't talk. Miles Murphy did not practice, Orlando
Brown did. Gino Stone worked out in the rehab field.
Bengals and Commanders Monday night on ESPN fifteen thirty, kickoff

(01:01:50):
at eight o'clock. U se wound up their fall camp today.
Now they just move into game prep mode. I suppose
it's quarter final day and night at the Cincinnati Open
with our friend friend of the show, Ben Shelton on
center court. Tonight, and Michigan got its punishment, a major
fine for the Connor Stallion's signs stealing thing. Sharon Moore,

(01:02:13):
the coach, gets an additional one game suspension, which will
be served for the first game of the twenty twenty
six season. Jim Harbaugh gets a ten year show caused penalty.
Connor Stallion's, the guy who was stealing the signs, gets
an eight year show cause penalty.

Speaker 3 (01:02:31):
So there you go.

Speaker 4 (01:02:31):
The NCAA has moved away in recent years from postseason bands,
and they've moved away from, you know, vacating wins and
vacating championships, and those things are dumb. Look, if you're
a Michigan fan, the finding here is your program cheated.
You may not care, you may not apologize for it,
and that's fine, But they they were found to have

(01:02:53):
broken rules. I think vacating titles is silly. I think
one of the beauties one of the cool things about
sports is we're as fans were always allowed to apply context.
There are some who don't believe that Barry Bonds is
the rightful all time home run or single season home
run leader because they'll apply context. Dude, you know took

(01:03:14):
Roy now I don't care. What he did was not
really in violation of Baseball's rules. But folks are allowed
to apply context. You know, we do the twenty twenty season,
now that we're like five years removed from twenty twenty.
In early twenty twenty one, when you had a sixty
game baseball season, Tarren, you're not gonna like this and
NBA Finals played in a bubble.

Speaker 3 (01:03:36):
Those championships aren't really taking it seriously. You may enjoy them.

Speaker 4 (01:03:41):
Terren's team won a title that year, it's not held
in the same regard as a team that wins it
over the course of an entire season. You're allowed to
apply context. You're allowed to apply contexts to the Houston
Astros in twenty seventeen. I'm among those who believe that
title is tainted. I don't necessarily believe that it had
to be, you know, vacated, that we take away the

(01:04:02):
World Series trophy. You're allowed to say, and I am
allowed to say that Michigan title it occurred against the
backdrop of a sign stealing scandal, and you can make
a distinction between when they started to really take off
under Jim Harball and what their record was like for
a number of years under Jim Harball, and look at

(01:04:24):
when the sign stealing apparently started and arrive at the
conclusion they started to perform better when they started stealing signs.
Like and if you're a Michigan fan, just my thing
is just acknowledge we cheated.

Speaker 3 (01:04:36):
We got away with it.

Speaker 4 (01:04:37):
Like you do, you have to turn yourself into pretzel
to you know, come up with ways to rationalize what happened.

Speaker 3 (01:04:44):
Just say it, like, yeah, our program cheated. Guess what.

Speaker 4 (01:04:47):
I still enjoyed them winning the title, but the rest
of us are allowed to put it in the proper
context and we don't need a vacated championship to do that.

Speaker 3 (01:04:55):
They cheated, they got away with it.

Speaker 4 (01:04:59):
Jim Harball may have wanted a coach in college again,
but he's currently in the NFL. They're gonna lose like
twenty million dollars in fines. It's the University of Michigan.
They have that in their couch cushions. So there you go,
our four minutes on Michigan. Tony Pike is going to
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Right will talk with Tony Pike Bengals practice this morning.
Tony and I were there Bengals getting set to play
the Washington Commanders on Monday night. So we talked about
what the defense has done to the offense. And what's
interesting to me is you focus a lot on what's
happening in the secondary. We focus a lot on you know,
the Bengals winning at the point of attack. Today was

(01:06:33):
the first time in a while that I noticed Demetrius Night.

Speaker 11 (01:06:36):
Yeah, and you know, one in a good way mode
because he's putting in a ton of extra work.

Speaker 8 (01:06:42):
There was a point he.

Speaker 11 (01:06:43):
Was working with Trey Hendrickson individually, one on one. He
put in times during different drills and after practice a
little bit, and we even saw him and I don't
want to say flash, but his coverage today I thought
was where it needed to be the run defense. It's
hard to tell because you're not tackling, but there were
a couple instances where you know, you and I were
sitting right there. Joe Burrow made a great throw, Chase

(01:07:06):
Brown made an incredible catch. If it's not Burrow throwing
to Chase Brown, it's probably an incompletion easily against any
other quarterback in the NFL. And you know, Demetrius Night
just kind of shrugged it off as he was going
back up. You know, kind of a welcome to going
against Joe Burrow moment. But you know, for a guy
that was kind of bookended mo by everything going on
with Mr. Stewart, who was the first round pick, there

(01:07:27):
was such a glaring needed guard with a third round pick, Samwiston.
Middle has been Demetrius Knight, who's been at every offseason workout.
He's done what he's needed to do, and he is
when we talk rookies in the NFL, He's slated to
start as a rookie in the NFL at a very
important position on this defense because Al Golden values linebackers
so much.

Speaker 4 (01:07:45):
Is it a good thing or a bad thing that
it's been a quiet camp for Logan Wilson.

Speaker 11 (01:07:52):
It's it's hard to tell. I thought he's looked a
little out of position at times in some of his
past drops. But until you get Logan Wilson the run defender,
bringing guys down and flying from sideline the sideline, I
think it's hard to tell. It's one of those situations
because you don't go live in preseason anymore that the

(01:08:15):
less you notice someone probably the better at this point.

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at Oakley Greens where the proceeds are going to benefit
his sister and her little boy, who is dealing with
something that quite frankly, I'm not smart enough to wrap
my brain around, but I know it's not good. And
so Tony has I've watched him do this. Man, he
has worked tirelessly to put together this fundraiser tomorrow at

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Oakley Greens, which is a place we love and I
wanted to bring Tony in. And we're going to talk
about this fundraiser at five twenty and we've Tony's going
to do his training camp reported five to forty five
and we'll talk some Bengals. But if you've heard him
mention it and you're not really sure what's going to
be happening or you know, you're thinking about doing something else,

(01:10:45):
and all right, what's going to be going on at
Oakley Greens. I want Tony to outline what Tomorrow night
is going to be about, because for me, he's gone
through some of the silent auction items and they're incredible.
But I also want him to tell the story of
his nephew, and so he's going to do that on
our show coming up at five twenty, and I I
hope you're here for it. And if you are looking
for something to do on a late Saturday afternoon or

(01:11:07):
Saturday evening, come join us at Oakley Greens. And it's
they If you haven't been to Oakley Greens, it's a
terrific place and it's kid friendly. There's a play set,
there's mini golf, there's TVs all over the joint. It's
indoor outdoor. It's perfect for families. My wife and daughter
and I are going to be there, so I cannot

(01:11:27):
encourage you enough to go. And Tony is going to
tell us more about his nephew and why he and
his family are raising money, and then about tomorrow night,
because again, the silent auction items are ridiculous. It's going
to be a lot of fun, So that conversation's coming
up at five twenty. I think a lot of folks
have asked the same question. Red's play the Brewers this weekend.

(01:11:47):
Cincinnati is a half game behind the Mets, who lose
last night. How are the Brewers so good? They've been
good for a while, They're otherworldly this year. They've won
twelve straight games. Reds and Brewers this yeas first pitch
at six point forty, We're gonna go to Milwaukee. Coming
up at five thirty five the Chase Burns news. I'm
not the world's most conspiratorial person. I will admit that

(01:12:12):
I'm not the world's most irresponsible person when it comes
to speculation. Chase Burns goes on the injured list with
what they're calling a right flexor strain. Maybe he's dealing
with legitimate pain. Maybe he's not gonna pitch again this year.
Perhaps I've not seen anything directly from Terry Francona regarding
Chase Burns. At the same time, I think we would

(01:12:33):
all be very unsurprised if we found out maybe he's
dealing with some kind of discomfort, But the real reason
they're putting him on the injured list is they want
to use whatever innings he has left on his arm
later in the season. They want to use those bullets later,
and they want to manage those innings without whatever limitations
there are hovering over them the way they would be

(01:12:56):
had they, you know, kept him on the staff, kept
him on the active and so that would make sense.
We will see. It's not rule breaking, it's manipulation. You're
allowed to manipulate, you're not allowed to break rules. I
was asked a question today. I went on a radio
station in Milwaukee to talk about this series, and the
question was like, how big would it be for the

(01:13:18):
Reds to make the postseason? And I know this is
a road I've gone down before. If you care at
all about the Cincinnati Reds, I think you would agree
that Unfortunately, for decades now, losing has been normalized. The
only way you get out of the normalization of losing
is to win. I think it would be a very

(01:13:39):
significant step for this team to just put that behind them.
I think it would be tangible proof that what they're doing,
and when I say what they're doing, I mean a
plan that they really launched into after the twenty twenty season.
It would be tangible proof, which is what matters to
most of us as fans that what they're doing is working. Now,

(01:14:03):
if they got to the postseason and they've got an
uphill battle, man at some point, the Mets are gonna
play better. The Reds have two West Coast trips in
front of them, they have another series with Milwaukee. They
still have the toughest remaining schedule according to winning percentage
in the sport. This is not going to be easy.
But if they got to the postseason instantly, we would

(01:14:25):
start talking about nineteen ninety five. Would we do the
thing we used to always do every time the Bengals
were in the postseason? You know, remember the Bengals would
make the playoffs and there was always like the what
was the price of gas in nineteen ninety one? January
of nineteen ninety one, what was the number one song
in the country? How much hero did Moe have in
the eighth grade? Would we do the same about nineteen
ninety five? I'm guessing we would. Last time the Reds

(01:14:47):
advanced in the postseason, I think it would be enormous
for this team to get to the postseason and then
just cross that off the list. The Bengals won three
playoff game in twenty twenty one, right, and they got
to the super Bowl. And so it's sort of to
a degree, when they got to the super Bowl diluted

(01:15:09):
what they did on that Saturday night when they beat
the Raiders. But what they did on that Saturday night
when they beat the Raiders is they just they put
something that had been just hanging there, like in albatross
for decades. They got it behind him. It was so cathartic.
As a fan, I think it was significant for the organization.
Not that those players were burdened by, you know, three

(01:15:32):
decades worth of history, but I'm sure it was a
relief for them. I'm sure to a large degree a
relief for the organization. Okay, that's done. Now we can
talk about championships. Now we can talk about other things.
I think a similar dynamic would apply for the Reds.
It would be I think incredible. Look, the baseball playoffs

(01:15:52):
are more layered than they've ever been. There's more randomness.
If you're a wildcard team or if you don't have
a first round by to win the World Series, you
have to survive four rounds. Think about that if you're
a real old timer. Before nineteen sixty nine, when there
were no divisions, it was just win your league, go

(01:16:13):
to the World Series, win a best of seven set.
Now you got to survive unless you get to buy
four rounds. That first round is best two out of three,
so you know, it doesn't take that much to just go, Okay,
we've advanced in the postseason, and then you know, see
where things go from there. There's a couple of things

(01:16:36):
about that. Number One, would you hate the Reds chances
in a best of three series? The inferior opponent wins
the best of three series all the time. Now, granted
it would be a three game road series. Right Let's
say the Reds were the six they would play the

(01:16:57):
lower seeded division winner, which right now that's a tie
between Philadelphia and San Diego. But I think there's a
couple of things about that. Number One, the starting pitching
best two of three series, I could throw at another team,
potentially Hunter Green and Andrew Abbott, maybe not necessarily in
that order. I take my chances with that. I take

(01:17:20):
my chances with that starting pitching. We'll see what happens
with Nickolodolo, or I can maybe have a bullpen game
somewhere in there and use Chase Burns, assuming he's healthy.
Just with the starting pitching, you would not, regardless of opponent,
completely discount their chances because you wouldn't do it in
the regular season. If the Reds played the La Dodgers,

(01:17:43):
which they will on their next road trip, it wouldn't
be far fetched to go, hey, they can win two
of the next three games. Done it against the Yankees
this year, just did it against the Philadelphia Phillies, then
went to Chicago last week took two out of three
from the Cubs. I also think there's something about, all right,
we got here, we accomplished something like now just let

(01:18:05):
it all hang out. Maybe house money is an overused term.
I don't want to play the house money team. I
don't want to play the team that's like, all right,
we got a manager who's an expert on handling the postseason.
We've got high end starting pitching. We've also got a
team that, while the franchise is kind of burdened, not

(01:18:26):
kind of is burdened by three decades of not advancing
in the postseason. For that team, I think it would
be a blast to see how loose they played, maybe
how well they played, and you wouldn't count them out
because of their starting pitching. Again, it's it's hard to
win two out of three on the road, but like
that's all you have to do. You know what, In

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a best of seven series, it's more likely that the
better team is gonna win. It's obviously not a guarantee.
In the best of five series, it's a little bit
more likely that the better team is gonna win the
best of three series. Like, dude, you talk about like
anything can happen. So yeah, man, I know you're gonna
have some folks who say, well, yeah, they get to
the postseason, they're not gonna win. Dude, haven't advanced in

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the postseason in thirty years, haven't been to the postseason
in a normal year in a dozen Are you kidding me?
Hell yeah, there's value in checking the first box get
to October and then checking the second one. Advance on October,
and you wouldn't rule their chances out if they got there,
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Speaker 4 (01:20:34):
So Tony Pike is with me here, and God, we
don't spend enough time with each other talking football. Training
camp reports Tony and Moo training camp show. We're not
going to talk football here. We're not even really going
to talk about sports. We're going to talk about an
event coming up tomorrow at Oakley Greens that you have
put together. I have watched too, I've watched you as
we've been doing shows, work really hard to put this together.

Speaker 3 (01:20:56):
Tomorrow. It's at Oakley Greens.

Speaker 4 (01:20:58):
And this is benefiting your nephew, Yes, your sister's little boy.

Speaker 8 (01:21:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 10 (01:21:02):
He he just turned one at the end of June.
He is two two weeks younger than our youngest. And
it all the day of actually his birthday party. We
went over there, hung out, and that night, I would
call it mother's intuition. Jenna decided to take him into
the hospital and his long story short, his hemoglobin levels

(01:21:24):
were extremely low. He was he was very close a
couple of times to wondering will he make it at
this point, and he spent I believe three days in
the ICU, twelve days in the hospital, four different blood transfusions,
and then they finally found that he's got UH. It's

(01:21:44):
called autoimmune hemolytic anemia with giant cell hepatitis, which is
a lot and from what I and again I'm I'm
no expert in it, but it we know how great
Cincinnati Children's Hospital is. It's the first case they've seen
at Cincinnati Children's in seven years, So it is it
is that rare. It's it's something that attacks the liver

(01:22:06):
and when you add the autoimmune side to it, when
you're going through these treatments, your immune system is breaking down,
so it creates a very dangerous environment if you were
to pick up an infection or a virus at some point.
So that's that's essentially why, that's the why of how
this fundraiser came about.

Speaker 4 (01:22:22):
And there's only, like you told me this, maybe a
few what dozen cases of this in the country.

Speaker 10 (01:22:27):
Yeah, I believe under a hundred that has been worldwide,
and you know, it's it's it's one of the things
that there's just not enough info on, right and it's
something now that since there hasn't been a case in
seven years, there are a lot of doctors, there are
three different teams that are working very closely with with Roman,
but there is there's been some advancements over the last

(01:22:49):
seven years that they're hopeful, but they haven't had a
case to try it on. So now that there is
Roman's case, he's he's undergoing these these treatments. It's it's
fewer than one hundreds nineteen eighty have.

Speaker 3 (01:23:02):
Been forty five years with DROs, so it's it's that rare.

Speaker 10 (01:23:06):
And again, it he turned one, there was no signs
of this for a year in his life. So the
medical bills and the treatments are one thing. But what
we're really trying to do on Saturday tomorrow is is
raise enough money that they can make sure the house
is safe for him, to make sure it's clean, to
make sure that the air he's breathing is not going
to put him at risk of anything. That again that

(01:23:28):
not a lot of us have to worry about day
in and day out. Yeah, I can't even imagine. All right,
So tomorrow Oakley Greens. Yes, this Oakley Greens is awesome, unbelievable.
We've talked about it a bunch. This is going to
be a really good time. It's a fundraiser.

Speaker 4 (01:23:41):
And first of all, let's let's just talk about like
you have a bunch of silent auction items, man, and
you've been talking about this.

Speaker 3 (01:23:48):
With me off air here and there.

Speaker 4 (01:23:49):
Yeah, outline for me as of right now what people
can potentially walk away.

Speaker 10 (01:23:55):
So we have a Bengals Legends package. Anthony Muno signed
Jersey with a Jim Breech signed football, so you get
the all time leading scorer and the best player at
his position in the history of the NFL. There is
a package where we've had tickets to the Jaguars game
with the parking pass donated. The Bengals gave me a
signed team football with Jamar Chason T. Higgins on it,

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and we pair that with a Joe Burrow signed and
framed photo, which is really cool. The Reds gave an
awesome package that includes a couple of diamond club seats.
You see has put together a football and a basketball basket.
Xavier basketball man all out our guy Steve Wolf donated
four of his floor seats. It's all you can eat,
all you can drink. And then Greg Christopher and Xavier

(01:24:39):
Athletics put together something he told me they've never done before.
It's an all access Xavier Basketball Day. Four people. You
arrive at the Centas Center on game day, you meet
Richard Patino and the staff. You sit in on the
pregame scouting report, you have dinner at the club level,
you sit on the court, and after the game you
can sit there and listen in the media room to

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the postgame comments. So that is cool and not just that.
Cardell Jones from Ohio State donated a frame jersey and
two tickets to Ohio State Penn State, not just like
a random game, but like their biggest game at home
of the year. Marcus Freeman sent two sweet tickets to
Notre Dame Syracuse. All you can eat, all you can
drink at Notre Dame Stadium. So we have FC Cincinnati tickets,

(01:25:24):
we have Reds tickets, we have Bengals Bearcat, I mean
anything that you can possibly think of our guys down
the hall. William sag donated a live appearance on The
Stuge Report. Wow, someone can come in sit in the
Stuge Report. Nate Bargatzi gave me two sets of tickets
for his show coming at the end of October. I
know I'm missing some things as well, but we've got

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like eighteen to twenty auction items, and then there's going
to be like twenty raffle baskets as well. If you
don't want to bid high on an auction basket, we've
got some really cool some raffle baskets as well. There's
a Bourbon trip. We have a Bourbon experience where you
and five friends to three different distilleries. They pick you
up on your front door. You get on this luxury vehicle.

(01:26:06):
You can take drinks on it. They stop at three distilleries. Uh,
there's a lunch that's provided. So we were overwhelmed by
how many people have given.

Speaker 3 (01:26:15):
If it will sweeten the pot, I'll go on that
with him.

Speaker 8 (01:26:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:26:18):
So you have four friends in Mo.

Speaker 10 (01:26:20):
Actually you three friends MO and I travel on this
this trip with you. But no, it's it's unbelievable how
many people. We have gift cards from so many restaurants
that have stepped up.

Speaker 8 (01:26:31):
Uh.

Speaker 10 (01:26:31):
So it's going to be a lot of fun and
uh we'll do it all on Saturday. Even if you
don't want to, just come and have some fun, come
and support five to ten. Jeff Henry, good buddy of
ours who plays music all over the place.

Speaker 3 (01:26:45):
Awesome.

Speaker 10 (01:26:45):
Yeah, he's donated his time and he's actually starting. A
couple of nights ago he played I Believe It Waltz
and opened the donations and the bartending crew took all
their donations and tips from the night and donated it.
He played last night. He's gonna play for us at
the event as well. So it's gonna be so much fun,
and uh, it's it's it's honestly going to a good cause.

(01:27:08):
It's my first time putting on a fundraiser and probably
my last.

Speaker 4 (01:27:12):
I was I was gonna say, if I ever need
money raise for something, you're in charge.

Speaker 3 (01:27:16):
It is.

Speaker 4 (01:27:16):
Uh, it might just be for me to go on vacation,
but if I you're gonna be in charge.

Speaker 2 (01:27:20):
I have.

Speaker 10 (01:27:21):
I have always attended fundraisers. I've tried to support fundraisers. Yeah,
I've never tried to run one, and I likely never
will again. But uh, it is, it's it's something that's
very unfortunate. And and Jenna, my sister, is a rock
star of a mom and Romans all. If you met
or have ever met Roman, you would have no idea
what he's going through. And I mean these the transfer

(01:27:41):
they're fourteen hour treatments that he's receiving fourteen hours on
top of each other, and he's knocked them out and uh,
you know, through all of this, he's learned to walk,
so he's walking at the house and it is a
it's really cool to see how everyone has come together
and uh and pushed for this, and it's.

Speaker 4 (01:27:57):
Worth mentioning Red's play tomorrow night. The team set up
at Oakley Greens is awesome, so you'll be able to
watch the ball game starts at five o'clock.

Speaker 3 (01:28:05):
There's it's family friendly.

Speaker 4 (01:28:07):
Yes, so we're We've told Crosley she's going to Oakley Greens,
which she loves, perfect, so we'll be there and uh, well.

Speaker 10 (01:28:13):
That's the selling point as well.

Speaker 4 (01:28:15):
That is it in greed if you with if you weren't,
if you were sort of on the fence, now that
should that should kick.

Speaker 3 (01:28:21):
It through for you.

Speaker 10 (01:28:22):
So which one is this?

Speaker 8 (01:28:24):
Is?

Speaker 4 (01:28:24):
There? Is there a way if if folks are listening
and they're like, man, I would love to go, but
I cannot, but I want to help out.

Speaker 3 (01:28:30):
What can people do?

Speaker 10 (01:28:30):
The easiest way is UH if you go to if
you're familiar with GoFundMe, go to go fund me and
just type in Jenna Pike okay, and from there you'll
be able to see UH to support Roman's battle against
a rare, rare disease and from there you can get
more information on a venmo that's available as well, and
then Romans Fight twenty four on Instagram. Okay, Jenna has

(01:28:52):
done a great job of kind of explaining what's going on,
but also giving some updates along the way. So if
you're interested to learn more, just go to the GoFundMe Jennipike.
But honestly thoughts wishes and show up and have a
good time. Shouday for a good cause.

Speaker 4 (01:29:07):
All right, Tony, thank you again. That's five o'clock tomorrow
at Oakley Greens five to ten. Awesome place to watch
the Reds game tomorrow night. Let's raise some money, Let's
have a lot of fun and looking forward to it.

Speaker 3 (01:29:17):
Tomorrow We're gonna.

Speaker 4 (01:29:18):
Go to Milwaukee and find out why the Brewers are
so good next.

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Speaker 4 (01:29:56):
The host of the Bill Michael Show. He's an elder
high school grad based in Milwaukee. He talks Brewers all
the time. Awesome to have you. He's on four hours
every day and he's joining me now, So Reds Brewers tonight.
This is going to be a fun series. Milwaukee was
twenty one and twenty five in mid May. Now they're
thirty two over five hundred, and they have the best
record in baseball.

Speaker 3 (01:30:16):
What flipped, Well.

Speaker 8 (01:30:19):
There's a couple of things. They were kind of foundering.

Speaker 9 (01:30:22):
They were a team that looked like they were going
to be about a five hundred team all season long.
And I at the time I had asked Pat Murphy, like,
what's the problem, because it seemed like there was something
missing chemistry wise in the clubhouse. And he said, you know,
it's really not the clubhouse. He said it's misplaced energy.
And I asked him what he meant by that, and

(01:30:43):
he said, it's misplaced energy that they're trying to kind
of they're all on.

Speaker 8 (01:30:49):
The same page.

Speaker 9 (01:30:50):
They just don't have something to bring it all together.
And then they got the win on May twenty seventh.
They started to win a few baseball games. Then they
got the win on May twenty Sive Evans in the
tenth inning. It was a walk off grand slam by
Christian Yelich.

Speaker 8 (01:31:05):
Then they won the next night.

Speaker 9 (01:31:06):
In ten innings against Boston again and they ended up
sweeping that series.

Speaker 8 (01:31:10):
And ever since then they've been on fire.

Speaker 9 (01:31:13):
And he said to me at that point, and I
kind of hate to equate it to the movie Major
League with the passing of Bob Yucker, but it was
like when Lou Brown said, we needed something to get
it all together, and that's what it was.

Speaker 8 (01:31:24):
It was all of a sudden, they.

Speaker 9 (01:31:26):
Started believing in themselves, and then you saw that youthful
exuberance that Murphy likes to have in his clubhouse start
to come back. And ever since then they've been on
a tear. I mean, you go back to May eighteenth
when they were foundering and really not playing that great
of baseball. Since then, they're fifty four and nineteen, which
is just like amazing.

Speaker 8 (01:31:46):
Now.

Speaker 9 (01:31:46):
On May twenty third, they were six and a half
games back, and they were starting.

Speaker 8 (01:31:49):
To play good baseball, but the Cubs were playing well too.

Speaker 9 (01:31:52):
Then on June seventeenth and eighteenth, they were six and
a half games back. Since then, they are now eight
games over, they've made up thirteen and a half games
in the standings, and this run is just remarkable.

Speaker 4 (01:32:04):
They don't have a position player who was an All Star,
and they have some guys who are having nice seasons,
right like Kristian Yelich is having a nice season, but
there's there's no one who you look at statistically and
they just jump off the page. So offensively, how are
they doing this?

Speaker 9 (01:32:20):
That's a great question. I mean, if you look throughout
the season, they're.

Speaker 8 (01:32:23):
Not power hitters.

Speaker 9 (01:32:24):
So for most of the season, I think right now
that rank like eighteenth of Major League Baseball, but since
the beginning of August, they're second in Major League Baseball,
only behind the Arizona Diamondbacks. But Contreras, who's got a
broken finger, He's playing the season with a broken finger.
He had been struggling mightily. Then they picked up Denny
Jansen from the Tampa Bay Rays, and you're like that
was kind of.

Speaker 8 (01:32:44):
A minor pickup.

Speaker 9 (01:32:44):
But Janson's been catching a little bit more, giving Contreras
a break, and ever since the All Star break he's
hitting three point fifty five. You know, Contrera's is and
it's just a matter of giving him a break. Then
you package that with picking up Vaughn when Savale, remember
they ended up bringing up miss Route and Savali really
didn't have a spot for him in the rotation, and
he demanded the trade.

Speaker 8 (01:33:03):
So they said, okay, no problem.

Speaker 9 (01:33:05):
Then they look and they see Vaughn sitting in the
minor league system, who was a third or fourth overall
pick for the Chicago White Sox. They said, hey, we'll
trace you Savally for this guy and the White Sox.
I remember when they made the trade, and White Sox
fans up here were killing this guy. He stinks, he sucks.
He was a terrible pick. They're comparing him to Mitch Trubisky.
Since he's been here, he's hitting three forty five.

Speaker 8 (01:33:24):
Everything that they.

Speaker 9 (01:33:25):
Saw on him as a top draft pick came to fruition.
He went to the minors first, and he got a
little bit humbled. Then he came here and he said,
it's night and day. It's night and day clubhouse, it's
night and day organization. You're playing for something. Everybody's on
the same page. There's something to be said for not
only what goes on in the field, but what goes
on behind closed doors in a clubhouse and Pat Murphy

(01:33:47):
has just created an incredible culture here. And Murphy, I
don't know if you know this. He's a former boxer, right,
and he talks about everything in a boxing sense, like, Hey,
if we lose a game, that means we lost a round,
but we didn't lose the match, so you're not going
to get and you're going to come back and fight
and try to beat their butt the next day.

Speaker 8 (01:34:03):
And that's the way he kind of.

Speaker 9 (01:34:05):
Matriculates his philosophy is through the boxing analogy to all
these guys. And now you got the guy picking out
pocket pancakes and eating pancakes out of his pocket during
a game, and people are now getting him brownies and
all this different stuff, and he's like, yeah, don't hit
me in the butt. There's powdered sugar back there. Now,
you know it just the guy's just a fun guy
to play for. But he's also a very smart and

(01:34:25):
very gut into it intelligence baseball man.

Speaker 4 (01:34:28):
It just it feels to me, you know, Craig Council
left and I know there were a lot of hurt feelings,
maybe mainly because you know of where he decided to go,
But I mean, he's a Milwaukee guy, So a lot
of hurt feelings there. How long did it take Pat
Murphy to get people to stop talking about the guy
he replaced.

Speaker 9 (01:34:46):
Well, he won Manager of the Year last year, and
I think people still talk about Craig, but in the
light of how badly they want to beat him. And
as you had mentioned, had he gone anywhere else, it's
no big deal, you know. But I went to the
Cubs and he did it kind of like in the
middle of the night. But what I know is that
when they made the Josh Hater trade some years ago

(01:35:08):
and for money, basically because the Hater was going to
go and become a free agent and they didn't want
to just lose them, so instead they traded them away.
But don't forget they were in the midst of a
Pennant race at that point in time. That told Craig Council,
you care more about the money than you do about winning.
And Brandon Woodriff told me that too. He said, man,
that just deflated our clubhouse. They underestimated the impact of
that guy. And there's a long story behind it, with
his child being sick and everything, and basically all the

(01:35:30):
guys in that clubhouse pulling for him. That's when Counsel
kind of made the decision, I'm going to go elsewhere
and see what I can do to raise the level
of pay for managers. That being said, you know, Brewers
fans are like good riddings. And now you're starting to
think was he the brains behind because Craig Council, remember
played for Pat Murphy back in college, So now you're thinking,
was Pat Murphy the brains behind all of this, kind

(01:35:50):
of the open door policy, brains behind all of this,
the likable father figure behind all of this. And now
you just look at the results and you're just, you know,
you're thinking, wow. I mean, this is the guy that
his sat five out of his starting players. He sat
Jackson Surio for making a bonehead of mistake. He sat
Bryce Terrang for making a bonehead of base running mistake.
He sat Joey Ortiz because he wasn't taking the right pitches,

(01:36:12):
he wasn't working to count properly.

Speaker 8 (01:36:14):
He sat Isaac Collins.

Speaker 9 (01:36:16):
He sat Reyes Hoskins at one point because Hoskins was
in a slump and wanted to keep hitting through it,
and he said, no, you're not. You're gonna sit for
a while because you're not doing it any good. This
is a guy that believes in accountability too, so that
raises your level of play.

Speaker 4 (01:36:28):
You know what it's like in a small market right where,
especially during the offseason, you see the money the Dodgers
throw at players, or you see the money the Yankees
throw at players, or the Red Sox. Whoever, maybe Boston's
not the best current example, and fans will complain, well,
we can't compete with that. In my take is always
all right, cool, you can't compete with the Dodgers. How
about compete with the Milwaukee Brewers. They've been in the

(01:36:49):
postseason now what six of the last seven years. They're
shoeing to make it this year and they do it
despite you know, they got rid of Josh Hater. Corvin
Burns is no longer there, Williams moved on this offseason.
They have a different manager. Now, why are they good?

Speaker 3 (01:37:03):
Every year?

Speaker 9 (01:37:06):
They have taken up the philosophy of find the players
that Mesh Wealding in the clubhouse together. Don't get me wrong,
you got to get good players. I think there's four
components to really being good and winning a championship. One is,
obviously you got to be good. The other one is
you got to be lucky, you got to be healthy,
and you got to get hot. All though, all four
of those things have to come together.

Speaker 8 (01:37:23):
But I think what they have done is we.

Speaker 9 (01:37:26):
Are going to concentrate on three specifics and none of
them have anything to do with hitting, speed, defense, and pitching.

Speaker 8 (01:37:33):
They have been when they were one of the.

Speaker 9 (01:37:34):
First teams to put that pitching lab into their spring
training facility out in Maryvale, Arizona, and I'm sure you've
probably been over to Maryvale and seen a lot of
the upgrades that they've made. But they put that pitching
lab in and that has been very, very very beneficial
to them. Number two is team speed. This team makes
you think before the ball even gets to your glove.
And it was very much on display the other day

(01:37:55):
when you saw them play the New York Mets and
the Mets the Mets not only committed three errors, but
they had errors at shortstop with Francisco Lindor who had
two of them, and then they had Mauricio come off
the bench as a defensive replacement to play third base
and he made an error. Because they have so much
team speed, if you don't make a clean play if
they're safe at first, and all of a sudden you've

(01:38:17):
got runners, and then they're basically a single or a
walk becomes a double because they steal bases with the
best of them. Same thing with a triple. So first
of all, they got team speed. Second of all, with
that speed, they can get the things that a lot
of teams can't, and they can track balls down between
Blake Perkins and South Freelick. Now Blake Perkins is on
the bereavement list, he who won't be in Cincinnati, But
between Blake Perkins and South Freelick, nothing gets to the

(01:38:38):
right side. From centerfield to the right over you can't
get one into the gap.

Speaker 8 (01:38:41):
They're so fast.

Speaker 9 (01:38:42):
And then you look at just good pitching and who
would have thought that you'd be sitting here today when
you look at the rotation. And now you've got Mizerowski
coming back tonight to face the Reds. But you've got
Freddie Perrault and Brandon Woodriff and Woodrif since he came
back from the shoulder surgery, has not been beaten. They
made the trade early on with Boston for Quinn Priester,
who has been fantastic. They revitalize the career of jose

(01:39:03):
A Kintana, and then you throw oh, by the way,
Mizarowski who averages one hundred and one miles an hour
with incredible breaking stuff and that youthful enthusiasm, plus Trevor
McGill and Abner yourrebay in the back end of the bullpens.
You look at this and you go, anybody can win
on any given day. And you know as well as
I do, you're only as good as that day starting pitcher.
And if that day starting pitcher is always going to

(01:39:23):
give you an opportunity to win, and you've got team speed.
That's the way they're getting it done.

Speaker 3 (01:39:28):
When do you get your free hamburgers?

Speaker 9 (01:39:31):
You know what's funny is they got a George Web
about a maybe half a mile from my house, and
there were people lined up yesterday.

Speaker 8 (01:39:38):
I mean they have anything announcem when.

Speaker 9 (01:39:39):
They were giving them out at that point, and people
are in there demanding free hamburgers. It is next Wednesday,
so you go up the street, you get your voucher,
and then next Wednesday, at any point in time, you
can come in and redeem your voucher for a free hamburger.
And I have never seen somebody. So many people in
the Midwest live by the motto if it's free, it's
for me. Holy Macro? Are they going to give away
a lot of burgers? Holy Macro?

Speaker 4 (01:39:58):
Now we got to do something so here. Maybe we'll
get Skyline to do that and you'll be here for it.

Speaker 1 (01:40:03):
Who knows.

Speaker 3 (01:40:04):
I appreciate the time. Man would drive down for that?

Speaker 8 (01:40:06):
If they're giving out free Cody, how would drive down
for that?

Speaker 4 (01:40:08):
Well, we'll see what we'll see if I can pull
some strings. All right, all right, you're the best.

Speaker 9 (01:40:13):
Thanks man, absolutely, Bye Tucky soon too.

Speaker 4 (01:40:17):
Bill Michaels, host of The Bill Michael Show, based in
Milwaukee on a billion radio stations throughout Wisconsin, Illinois, and
even Minnesota. Tony Pike joins us one more time. This
time we'll talk football next.

Speaker 5 (01:40:29):
Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen thirty. Traffic on the.

Speaker 6 (01:40:34):
Ohio side eastbound two seventy five. It's an accident approaching
seventy one, blocking off the right two lanes. Possible entrampment
there as well, so use caution in westbound Fort Washington
Way in accident at seventy five. I'm at Ezelic with traffic.

Speaker 2 (01:40:52):
USPN fifteen thirty with the latest from Bengals training camp, brought.

Speaker 1 (01:40:57):
You by Skyline. Julie Good It's Skyline time.

Speaker 2 (01:41:02):
On Europe, the shool home of the Cincinnati Bengals.

Speaker 1 (01:41:05):
He has to be in fifteen thirty.

Speaker 4 (01:41:09):
Tony, Let's talk about what we watched that was good
at today's training camp practice. And I think what was
good was the connection between Joe Burrow, his wide receivers
and the team's top running them.

Speaker 10 (01:41:18):
Yep, there are videos spread all across the internet today
of red zone throws down the middle of the field,
seam throws t Higgins over the middle, which he's made
a living on, and the one constant in all of
the completions, no one's running free, great coverage, unbelievable throw,

(01:41:39):
great catches all around. A great day from Joe Burrow
and the skill players on the Bengals offense. And again,
that's if you're out Golden and you broke from practice
and you went in and watched the tape, you're probably
not angry at some of the completions.

Speaker 11 (01:41:53):
That's just a.

Speaker 10 (01:41:54):
Unbelievable quarterback who arguably is the best in the league
with the best wide receiver in the league. That stuff
is gonna happen. But what I I thought even jumped
out more and you hit it. Chase Brown. We saw
a couple explosive runs, but he made a couple plays
in the passing game today which running back should not
be able to make, and Demitrius Knight had great coverage
on one of them, still made the catch. He was

(01:42:14):
put on an angle route one on one with a
linebacker which opened the middle of the field. No linebacker
in the league is covering that. I don't think you
could be more impressed. And I think, as we talked today,
are our standout of the day at what Chase Brown
is doing.

Speaker 4 (01:42:30):
Yeah, he's been terrific and the talk all off season
has been about expanding his role as a pass receiver.

Speaker 3 (01:42:37):
We saw that in action today.

Speaker 4 (01:42:38):
Today's offensive line performance I don't think was as bad
as when we were at practice on Wednesday, but it
wasn't great.

Speaker 10 (01:42:45):
It wasn't as bad from a team setting. They did
some stuff they added. We saw a lot with Drew
Sample or tight ends in the backfield as well some
more max protect seven man protections which I think helped
a little bit. But when these two sides split and
it went o line d line one on one, there
was not a lot of resistance from the offensive line. Now,
Amris Mims missed a lot of those reps as he

(01:43:06):
was a little bit banged up, but did come back
for the goal line portion of training camp. But by
all accounts, I thought offensive skill won the day. But
defensive line, let's call what it is, had their way
with the offensive line in those individual settings.

Speaker 4 (01:43:21):
All right, Tony, thank you. Tony is co hosting this
show on Monday. I'm off co hosting this this show
on Monday with Ken Brew starting at three zho five.

Speaker 3 (01:43:30):
Getting said for Bengals and Commanders.

Speaker 4 (01:43:34):
That puts an end to our show and an end
to our not a permanent end at least, I don't think,
but an end to our week. H load management season
is almost over. I'm off Monday, I'm off Tuesday, and
then I'm not going to take another day off until
like twenty twenty seven.

Speaker 3 (01:43:50):
Have a great weekend.

Speaker 4 (01:43:51):
Thanks to Taran for producing, and thanks to you for listening,
and we'll talk to you on Wednesday of next week.
This has been the michelob Ultra five o'clock Happy Hour
on ESPN fifteen already Cincinnati Sports Station

Speaker 6 (01:44:23):
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