8/27/25 - The Mo Egger Radio Show w/ Chad Brendel

Chad Brendel in for Mo Egger talking all things Bengals, Reds and Bearcats

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Cincinnati Bengals ESPN fifteen thirty.

Speaker 2 (00:18):
Here we go Wednesday in the Queens City Chad Brenda
and from Oeggar, who is on a jet airplane headed
for Kansas City settle in three hours of enticing, intoxicating

(00:43):
radio coming right at you today doesn't feel like a
h a fun one if we're being honest. After the
Reds fall last night six in Los Angeles, they they

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battled for a while and then uh top of the
sixth inning in a two to one game, runners on
first and second, no outs, and Noel a Marte at
the plate, a guy that is remember never never in

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his major league career laid down a sacrifice bunt. Noel
a Marte bunts into a double play. Yeah, it's hard
to make this stuff up. And there's there's a lot
of questions out there about why, why, What is the

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logic in asking neelve Marte a bunt there?

Speaker 3 (01:59):
What?

Speaker 2 (01:59):
What makes about that?

Speaker 4 (02:04):
For me?

Speaker 2 (02:04):
The none of it. I really could only come up
with one thing, and I'm probably wrong, but I really
could only come up with one thing that made sense
to me that for the large part of this season,
this team has been so inept offensively that Terry Francona

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is grasping its straws, trying to find something, anything to
generate a run. That's the only thing that makes sense.
There's nothing about that, nothing that says that's a good

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idea from Noel ve Marte in that situation. He's your
hottest hitter. He's been mashing for two three weeks now,
and you finally get a situation with runners on first
and second. Nobody out Marte at the plate, your best

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hitter at the plate, and he pops up a bunt
and then of course things fall apart. In the bottom
of the sixth, the Reds give up four runs and
a two to one game. In the top of the

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sixth with two on and no out, the inning ends
with the Reds trailing six to one. They did get
a two run homer from Austin Hayes and the seventh,
but that was it. Through the first five innings they
had two hits. Those were both in the first inning

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and produce the one Reds run to that point. No
hits on the second, third, fourth, and fifth. And if
you told me that that was the case, that Francona
is just just trying anything he can to get a

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run across the plate. Then I would ask, why is
south Stewart still in the miners. You've got a guy
in the miners that is one of your best prospects,
has handled the jump easily and looks like could potentially

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help the big league club in a pennant race or
at least a wild card race in late August, and
he's not here. Meanwhile, the manager is bunting the best player,

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or at least the hottest player, in an effort to
scratch across the run a run in a two to
one game in the top of the sixth inning. What
about that makes sense? Make it make sense. If you
can make it make sense to me, I'd love to listen.

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I also want to talk a little bit about Ellie
and where this franchise is with him, because I have
been adamant for a long time, for a long time
adamant that Ellie de la Cruz is the answer for

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this franchise at shortstop. But once again, the errors are
piling up. I think he's now at twenty on the season,
and I believe MO talked about this yesterday. Groundball to
Ellie get a little nervous, he might make spectacular play.

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He also might do what he did Monday night and
the ball rolls through his legs. Well, this franchise is
not attempting to put together a roster that is going
to be able to play somewhat sloppy baseball and still

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manage to win the way that it's being built. They
claim the pitching we see, the defense, the run creation,
those things I don't think we see. I don't think
we see it. I don't think the infield defense has
been any good. I don't think the outfield defense has
been any good. So in order to win, you're gonna

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have to scrap and fight and claw and play clean baseball.
Can you have a guy at shortstop that can't get
the job done consistently enough that you feel good about it?
I love Ellie. He's by far the most talented player

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on this team. For most of this year, he has
been the best position player on this team. He's an
All Star. But if this is who the Reds are
going to be, and we have no reason to believe otherwise,
they have stated this is what they're trying to accomplish

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as an organization, playsound, defense, pitch create runs. That clearly,
power is not an emphasis when they're constructing this roster.
Their design for power is we play in great American ballpark.

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Some of these guys should be able to hit some
home runs. Hasn't happened, but that's their plan. Can you
build that around Ellie at third base or at shortstop?
And like Austin and I talked about at the Endo
Sincy three sixty, if he's not a shortstop, the problem
is where do you put him now. I don't know
that he's a center fielder. You just acquired ke Brian

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Hayes to be your third baseman of the future. I
think that's probably Ellie's most natural position, it's third. So
if he doesn't work out at shortstop, you don't think
he's a center fielder and he's blocked at third, what
is Ellie de la Cruz in this franchise? Because I

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think we're to the point that, unfortunately, I just don't
know that shortstop is the answer. I wish it was.
He's incredibly exciting, enticing, whatever you want to consider at shortstop,
but his play is not clean and that's something that

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I just don't know. With a razor thin margin of air,
can you have a guy out there that you don't
trust to keep his glove down on a ground ball.
That's what happened Monday night. If you watched it, he
anticipated the hop, brought his glove up, the ball didn't
bounce the way he thought it was going to and
went right under his glove. That is literally ten year

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old baseball shortstop lesson. Keep the glove down. If the
ball eats you up and stays in front of you.
Find the ball eats you up and stays in front
of you. If it takes a bad hop, you block
it with your chest. Bounces off the heel or your glove.
If you block it with your chest, you mitigate the damage. Instead,
that ball went right through Ellie's legs, went out to

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left field. Austin Hayes picked it up and airmailed it
to run. Score. Close game turns into a not close game.
It just it doesn't fit the formula. If you're gonna
talk about it, you gotta be about it. If you're

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going to talk about pitching and defense, then you have
to actually care about the defense. You can't just run
the same guys out there. They keep making the same mistakes.
That's not even getting to Noelvie Marte starting in center
field last night. It's the last time that guy played
center field. Came up as a shortstop, then he plays

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third base, then he plays right field because you acquired
a third baseman. Then TJ. Friedel needs a night off,
and all of a sudden, he's a center fielder. Now
made a bad play on a ball in the bottom
of that sixth inning that allowed LA to score four runs.
What are we doing at the top of this organization?

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What is the decision making process? Because it doesn't make
any sense. We'll talk some Bengals as well, monitoring to
see they didn't get anybody on the waiver wire that
that has come and gone. That was you know, they'll

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go get some guys. Go get some guys after cutdown day.
That doesn't look great. And I was told today on
the Artists formerly known as Twitter, someone said to me

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something about me being super negative and not believing in
what the Bengals are doing. Why should I this? Why
should I? Buddy thinks they didn't do anything in the
off season. It's not that I don't think they did anything,

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so I don't think they did enough to matter. But
somebody tweeted Tito did not call for the bunt if
Tito did not call for the bunt. Marte called for
the bunt. The guy that's never laid down a sacrifice

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butt in his career just decided he was going to
butt in that situation. Then you bench him and you
never let him off it. Just Justin On on Twitter

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also says you should be able to lay down a
bun if you're in the major leagues. Justin that sounds
great in theory. I don't think you like you're dealing
it with Clayton Kershall or like you're dealing with major
league pitchers on the mat. I think Kershaw come out
at that point. Who came in after Kershel? Where's the

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box score it? Anyhowt theres there was h Enriquez that
came in in the top of the fifth throwing one
hundred miles an hour. Like it's not as he like,
laying down a bunt is not just Oh, that's the
easiest thing to do. Go up there and stand in

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the box and watch one of those guys throw a cutter,
moving it ninety seven miles an hour and try to
square the bat around to catch it. Not exactly easy,
and you have to practice it a and be really
good at it. To be able to do it, like
should should Tito really have to tell noel Vie Marte,

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go swing the damn bat? What are we doing? What
you're telling me is you got a bunch of young
guys that are panicking at even the sniff of a
pennant race. This isn't a playoff race yet, it's August
twenty seventh. If there's too much pressure for this bunch, now,

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god forbid they actually find themselves somewhere in late September
when every game truly does matter. Because the Reds dead. No,
they're three and a half games out of the wild card.
The problem is they've eliminated the margin prayer. They're not
going to catch anybody above the Mets, certainly not going

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to catch the Brewers, who are fifteen games ahead of them.
So the only chanceance they have is to catch the Mets.
You're not going to do that making the mistakes they've
made on this West coast trip. And you knew the
Mets weren't going to be bad for like play bad forever,
they were going to come back around. It's just a

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situation for this franchise that the margin for error is
so small and they're making mistakes that are fatal. They
have no chance to recover from them. When that team
was down six to one against the Dodgers, that was
a rap. They weren't coming back from that. Whether it

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came from Tito or whether Marte did it, or whatever
the case may be, you can't make that mistake in
that critical moment. We'll get to some Bearcats too. A
lot going on. Phone lines are open first two hours.
We'll have the phone lines open as we've got guests

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coming up. At five o'clock. Richard Skinner will join us.

Speaker 4 (16:08):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (16:08):
He's talking to Trey Hendrickson today after Bengals practice, So
looking forward to hear him from Skinny and then Klayceon
Noden's going to join us to talk about some Reds
as well. Those will both happen in the five o'clock hour.
Moe and Tony doing the preseason reports as they as
they are both getting ready to jump on a plane
and head to Kansas City. So big show, A lot

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coming up. Let's get it started. It's Moegger Show. I'm
not Moeger Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen.

Speaker 5 (16:38):
Thirty Cincinnati's.

Speaker 4 (16:50):
Follow shot call.

Speaker 2 (17:00):
Away bug about since that he's sp a fifteen thirty
Taren knows how.

Speaker 6 (17:06):
To put me in a good many many way.

Speaker 2 (17:09):
Yeah, I'm about uh, let's go after the fountains. Let's
go to the original shot caller, Baller Mark and Florence Mark.

Speaker 7 (17:18):
What's going on, brother, I got the same issue you got.
I mean, I'm trying to figure out.

Speaker 2 (17:24):
What the red is doing.

Speaker 7 (17:25):
But we're doing I thought I thought Tito was coming
to hear that, as Mo would saying, clean up the.

Speaker 2 (17:32):
Slot right right.

Speaker 7 (17:34):
And what I keep saying is a reincarnation of David Bell.
When I see these lineups changing from day in to
day out, I mean when I I get excited when
I see a lineup that works, Like when I see
Freedo baton leadoffs and Gavin loves baton second, and then
Mark A. Batton in the middle of the lineup and

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Matt McClean bat nice. I've seen that. I see that
lineup working, and then they go away from it, you know,
the next game, and then I see Marty Batten second
and then trying to lay down a bunch. I mean,
it's like, hey, what what is this?

Speaker 2 (18:11):
Mark? I've gotta I said this jokingly to somebody, but
I almost believe it. You know what I think is
ruining baseball was that, what do you haven't? Are you
eating something good? It sounds delicious, whatever it is, Okay, Yeah,
this this notion that that right handers aren't allowed to

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bat against right handers and left handers aren't allowed to
bat against left handers. That's why the lineup changes all
the time, because if the if the arm that the
other guy throws with, changes, then everything has to change.
This guy can't play. We gotta put we gotta put
Marte in center and espinol and right because there's a
lefty on the mound and Freedom needs a day off.

Speaker 8 (18:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (18:55):
I grew up at a time where you know, if
a goat could hear it, you let him hit. Yeah,
I'm gonna share with you. Back in twenty and fifteen,
I said it earlier on MO and Tony and Austin show.
Ferguson Jenkins told me. You know who Ferguson Jenkins is.

Speaker 9 (19:16):
Of course, he.

Speaker 7 (19:18):
Told me that the game hasn't changed. Is this the
way they're trying to manage it? And he told me
that in twenty and fifteen, and I zoomed in on that,
and that's true. What he said, because the way they
manage in baseball, it's like all this sabermetrics and analytics.

Speaker 2 (19:39):
And there's a place for it, there's a place for
advanced statistics. I'm not an anti statistics, anti sabermetrics guy,
but what I am is your best players play like
you don't take it and say, Okay, this guy's great. Uh,

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we we really believe in him, but like a third
of the time, we're not gonna play him because we're
gonna play a guy that we think isn't as good
as him.

Speaker 7 (20:11):
Yeah, analytics say, well, in this matchup, in this situation,
let's do this. It's like you can't you can't mix data,
analytics and probability and statistics that there's no data out there.

Speaker 2 (20:26):
That's gonna tell you what.

Speaker 7 (20:29):
What a guy guy's gonna do night in from nine
am out. You don't know. You don't know if he's
gonna get a hit, You don't know when the HiT's coming,
you don't know when what pitch you're.

Speaker 2 (20:39):
Gonna get to hit on.

Speaker 8 (20:40):
I mean, I just think it's.

Speaker 7 (20:42):
Just a dumb way that they're trying to manage a
baseball game. And it's like, can we go back to
the way that it was before all this came And
I mean, I feel good that I got a chance
to see baseball before all this stuff came in, But
I feel bad for the people that are too young

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that didn't see baseball before all of this, because this
is not this is not real baseball.

Speaker 2 (21:13):
It's it's no, it's it's it's roto league. It's it's
it's baseball played on paper is exactly what it is.
That's what it's a It's baseball played on paper instead
of baseball played by professional baseball players. It's this Reds
notion that we're gonna draft Mark. You're you're a longtime
baseball guy. I think I can trust you when I

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asked this question, have you ever seen a team have
the strategy that the Reds are imploring, where they just
draft shortstops and the guy I will figure it out,
and then the guy plays shortstop all the way to
the top of the organization, and then they get to
the top of the organization and then they try to

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figure it out.

Speaker 7 (22:00):
I've seen that one time, but no, going all the
way back. Eric Davis came up as a shortstop, sure
when they brought him up, but I mean it just
brought him up. He was immediately put in the outfield.
So he has started playing the outfield in the minor league.

Speaker 2 (22:17):
Right. I just this is the reds entire philosophy in
drafting young players and acquiring young talent. We're gonna go
get every shortstop. We don't have any first baseman, third basemen,
we don't have any left fielders, we don't have any
right fielders. We're gonna we're gonna draft shortstops and catchers
because we don't think the shortstop can play catcher. And

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we're gonna put the shortstops everywhere else. And then you
get them in your organization, maybe you move one to second,
maybe you move one to third, but ultimately, like they're
trying to to design a franchise around young shortstops, and
it's just not a philosophy. It's just not how it works.

Speaker 8 (23:00):
Uh.

Speaker 7 (23:00):
The only the only thing I can say the Rigs
fans that that's had to suffer through this because I
suffer through the big Red machine getting tore down, and
then when the Rids bottom out like in the in
the eighties, in the early part of the eighties, the
the nit Krawl era will come to an end. At

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some point the way the way that front office is
doing it, that will end. We just don't know when
it's going to end. But at some point the owner
has to look at that and say, okay, but.

Speaker 2 (23:33):
The owner is the problem. You know why that is
the philosophy, Mark, You know why that is their philosophy.
And they have they have, they have said the quiet
part out loud. They don't want to draft and develop
power hitters because power hitters get too expensive too quick,
and the Reds don't want to pay in that market.
So their belief is that they draft shortstops, guys that

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are more controllable, guys that aren't gonna explode and hit
thirty forty home runs and all of a sudden become
too expensive, that those guys that are going to be
able to control more and and they're not going to
spend on power because they believe, playing in Great American
Ballpark that everybody is going to be able to hit
home runs. Problem one, not true. We've seen that not

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be true. Problem two. You play eighty one games, not
at Great American Ballpark. So this organizational philosophy that they
have is set up by ownership. Because ownership doesn't want
to spend. This is a reaction from the front office.
How are we going to do this in a way

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that stays away from being a team that spends one
hundred and eighty million dollars on payroll a year.

Speaker 7 (24:44):
Well, well, the only way to force the ownership's hand
is to not go to the game. Yeah, you just
got to.

Speaker 8 (24:51):
You got to hit them in the pocket.

Speaker 10 (24:53):
Don't go down there.

Speaker 7 (24:54):
I mean, that's unless you have to be there because
of your job.

Speaker 3 (24:59):
Don't down there.

Speaker 2 (25:00):
I agree.

Speaker 7 (25:01):
And then and then that way if you if you
really want to change, don't go. Hey the same good
them though, and we'll go from there. So I'll let
you go, Chad Bridge, I've got my tad Brenda Wied
for today.

Speaker 2 (25:14):
All right, thank you, Mark, talk again. Appreciate you man.
All right, let's take a break. Phone lines are still
open more after this. Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen thirty.

Speaker 11 (25:27):
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Speaker 5 (26:02):
This ESPN fifteen thirty.

Speaker 2 (26:16):
Yello speaking my language tea. Sometimes you just need mystical

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to yell at you, yell.

Speaker 3 (26:42):
Yah.

Speaker 2 (26:44):
Would you agree with me? Taren Like it's it's not
good to listen to mystical in the car. Depends depends
on what mystical song. But for the most part, if
he's yelling you at you in the car, you're getting
a little worked up, and then the driving becomes a
little more aggressive.

Speaker 13 (27:04):
Yeah, hopefully you don't have no don't run into nobody.

Speaker 2 (27:06):
Right like you like you could. Probably Mystical in the
car is like an after ten PM thing when the
roads there's not a lot of people on the roads.
Mystical in the car at like three o'clock in the afternoon,
it's probably not good for anybody. Uh, interesting numbers just
looking over this. Open Doors has released a report talking

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about rev share in the you know, Division one sports.
It's got a breakdown of every position how much each
conference is paying on average each position. The Big Twelve
is paying quarterbacks the most at twenty three point one
percent of their revenue share, ACC at nineteen point four,

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SEC at fifteen point one Big Ten of fourteen point four.
How about this offense defense. Seventy percent rev share dollars
in the ACC are going to offense, sixty two percent
in the Big Ten, sixty four percent in the Big Twelve,
fifty seven percent in the SEC. Forty three percent of

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the SEC dollars are going to defense. But how about
this Arran For everybody that thinks the players are all
getting rich in college football, more than a million dollars
point three percent of college football Power four college football
players are making a million dollars. Point six percent are
making nine hundred ninety nine thousand to five hundred thousand.

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Nine point one percent are making half a million to
one hundred thousand, seven point four percent from one hundred
thousand to fifty sixteen point one percent fifty to ten
thousand dollars. Sixty six point five percent of college football
college athletes college football players sixty six point five percent

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of college football players are making less than ten thousand dollars.
Does that surprise you? Not really, I thought the the
fifty to ten number would be higher. I thought that'd
be more like twenty five to thirty. Interesting. Interesting, Let's

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go back out to the phones. Mike and Hamilton wants
to talk rads. Mike, how you doing?

Speaker 3 (29:30):
Oh?

Speaker 8 (29:30):
Pretty good?

Speaker 2 (29:31):
At you chat? I'm fantastic.

Speaker 14 (29:33):
Well, I'm sitting here at three o'clock in the afternoon
and I'm stuck in traffic on two seventy five. You
guys are playing Mystical, so that might not be a
great thing for me.

Speaker 2 (29:41):
Uh yeah, I mean luckily we turned it off so
you didn't get the full like, you know, amped up, like,
don't play mystical his verse on make them say.

Speaker 14 (29:50):
Uh yes, no, that would probably not be a good
idea because.

Speaker 2 (29:54):
Then you're just gonna start running cars out of the way.

Speaker 14 (29:57):
That would that would be uh, I mean, I could
would be I would like that. Actually. No, Hey, so
most on the on the everybody getting paid stat So
all the big fat guys at block are not getting
paid basically is what you're saying.

Speaker 2 (30:11):
They're getting paid. Offensive line acc seventeen percent, Big ten,
fifteen percent, Big twelve, ten and a half percent. Not
in the Big twelve, they ain't getting paid. So one guy,
the quarterback, one guy is getting twenty three percent, and
the whole offensive line is getting ten and a half
and fourteen point four percent of the revenue shared dollars

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in the SEC are going to the offensive line.

Speaker 14 (30:35):
Right, Well, we'll have to see how that goes after
after all the house bill stuff gets done. But now, hey,
the reason I called was is that I think last
night's lineup is just a microcosm of what's wrong with
this organization from top to bottom.

Speaker 2 (30:47):
Sure, I had no argument for me, my friend.

Speaker 14 (30:50):
So Marte has to play center because Frigel's hitting two
eight since the All Star break needs a day off,
So who are you going to put out there? Bill Benson,
who's hitting to ten? I mean, I mean, it's not
like you're getting much better than I mean, so you're.

Speaker 2 (31:07):
Getting significantly better on defense. You put Martin Wright, you
have Benson and center. It's not perfect. That this roster's
not perfect. They didn't do enough to make this roster good.

Speaker 14 (31:18):
No, to actually further the point, the the opening day
roster was to have Gavin Lux in the outfield. They
did nothing when it came to adding an outfielder on
this team, and they do nothing in the minors. So
who's who's an up and coming outfielder that's going to
be here in the next two to three years that
you even know about.

Speaker 2 (31:38):
It's somebody that's a shortstop right now.

Speaker 14 (31:42):
Ellie Dayla Cruz I had. I didn't say that.

Speaker 2 (31:45):
To look, I'm going to get to that at the
top of the four o'clock hour. It's interesting.

Speaker 14 (31:52):
So listen. I went down and watched about ten games
when him and McClean were alternating between and second when
he was in Louisville, and I said then that he's
gonna make great plays and he's gonna make him look good.
But he's an outfielder.

Speaker 2 (32:10):
I think, actually, I think his best position is probably third.

Speaker 14 (32:14):
Do you think so?

Speaker 2 (32:15):
I think. So, he's got the.

Speaker 15 (32:17):
Arm for it.

Speaker 14 (32:19):
So I think it's the the spectacular play he looks
good doing. It is the routine just for whatever reason, yip,
So I don't I don't know what it is.

Speaker 2 (32:29):
Here's what I would say at third. There's not a
lot of those routine like the ball's coming at you
hot at third base. So I think his instincts are great,
and I think that's the problem, is you just brought
in a guy to play third for the next five years.

Speaker 14 (32:46):
Well, I'm going to further the problem. Now, what do
you do with Sol Stewart?

Speaker 2 (32:50):
What he's going to have to move somewhere?

Speaker 14 (32:53):
Well, they so, And this is what I mean by
this organization has no plans. They don't know that you
brought in key Brian Hayes. So I've seen I watched
the minor league stats come around a lot, so I've
seen south Stewart at second, first, right field. They have
no clue what they're doing.

Speaker 2 (33:09):
They're grasping at strouss well.

Speaker 14 (33:12):
And I have one to ask question for you, Chad. So,
this team is in a playoff race. Their offense has
been a kneemick at times at best. At best, your
best hitter might be a triple A.

Speaker 2 (33:25):
Yeah, and they're not bringing them up.

Speaker 10 (33:27):
Why is he not here?

Speaker 2 (33:28):
It's a great question. It doesn't make any sense.

Speaker 14 (33:33):
If I'm not mistaken, and I could be wrong about this,
but if he's not here before the end of the weekend,
he's not eligible for the playoffs. Even if they call
him up in September.

Speaker 2 (33:41):
First, right, he has to be here before the end
of August.

Speaker 14 (33:45):
So what are they waiting on?

Speaker 2 (33:46):
I have no idea. How is he not on the
West Coast with this team? I guess what they're waiting
waiting to come back for the weekend to put them
on the team.

Speaker 14 (33:55):
So you're big so and the Reds tend to struggle
on the West Coast. I don't care whether it's our
whole life.

Speaker 2 (34:01):
How are you?

Speaker 14 (34:01):
Yes, I'm forty seven.

Speaker 2 (34:03):
I'm forty seven as well. My whole life on the
West coast.

Speaker 14 (34:08):
Yes, So everybody said, going on the West Coast, if
they could come home five and four, four and five,
you know, that's kind of a typical end of the
year West Coast trip for the Reds, right, Yeah, So
why wouldn't you bring maybe your hottest hitter in the organization.

Speaker 2 (34:25):
That would give you a better chance to win that
Why would we do something like that.

Speaker 14 (34:29):
And instead you watch him hit a four hundred and
sixty foot home run out of the stadium and then
hit another one later on that night, and then follow
that up and hit his tenth the other day, just
from triple A. It doesn't make sense to me. So
if you're going to wait to come home to bring
him up, why didn't you just I it can't be
that expensive to put him on delta and fly him out.

Speaker 2 (34:47):
I agree, Like you're getting no argument for me. It
makes no sense that at least like at some point
in this trip he hasn't been ushered out there immediately
because the offense has been pewtrid for most of this terrible.

Speaker 14 (35:01):
It's and how many and how many uh, I mean,
how many utility players does this team need? They have
Gavin Lux, they have Espinal who hardly ever plays. I mean,
McClain's an automatic out at this point. Something. You got
to do something to shake this up. You're three and
a half games out of the wild card. And if
you listen to anybody, the baseball gods, you know, just

(35:22):
they give you playoff races. Man, you got to take
the chances when you have them.

Speaker 4 (35:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (35:26):
And and this Reds team, I just don't think they're
built to compete like they're they're not built for September.

Speaker 14 (35:31):
There will front office is built to compete.

Speaker 2 (35:34):
I agree. I agree one thousand percent. Tonight tonight, no
big deal. Just uh. Nicklodola returning from a blister injury.
Blister against Shoho Tani on the.

Speaker 14 (35:43):
Mount and and Lodola's dealt with us every year.

Speaker 2 (35:46):
So you know, question, I've thought about this. Do you
tell them to stop throwing the sweeper?

Speaker 14 (35:55):
No, because I don't think he's the same picture.

Speaker 2 (35:58):
I mean, but that's what's causing it, right, it's his
grip on the sweeper that sounds like, is what is
causing this blister injury. It's a tough call.

Speaker 14 (36:10):
That would be like that would be a tough call.
That'd be like telling Hunter Green to stop throwing his fastball. Yeah,
I mean, the sweeper is what makes Nick Lodolo.

Speaker 2 (36:19):
Yeah, but it's also what makes Nick Lodola a guy
that you can't keep off the eye.

Speaker 14 (36:24):
L Well, that's not the only reason you can't keep
him off the off I know, the big injuries and everything.

Speaker 2 (36:29):
Hell, the blisters spend three times now in two years.

Speaker 14 (36:32):
Hey, look, I've heard everything from Steve Carlton used to
put his hands in rice to pickle juice or whatever.
He's got to he's got to start doing something.

Speaker 2 (36:40):
Let's let's go major league to just put the the
vasolene up underneath the brim of the hat.

Speaker 14 (36:46):
I mean, and that is my favorite movies too. Hey,
if nothing else changed the grip, yeah, I mean, you
just do something at this point. But you know, honestly,
it comes down to ownership.

Speaker 13 (36:57):
You know.

Speaker 14 (36:58):
I called in and talked to Tony and Austin a
couple of weeks ago, and I am not a soccer
fan at all. I don't even.

Speaker 2 (37:04):
Understand they do it right. They want to win, they
want to win.

Speaker 14 (37:07):
Yeah, So listen, so.

Speaker 2 (37:08):
Real quick, Mike, I gotta I gotta go here real quick.

Speaker 14 (37:11):
This was my question to them, and maybe you can
answer this. So when the when the the Lennard family
owned the Reds, they had the same problem, didn't want
to spend a bunch of money. But on FCC they're
spending a ton of money and winning, right yep. So
is it really a Casteleni problem or is it the
thirteen or fourteen other owners that the Reds have that
control part of the budget.

Speaker 2 (37:31):
It's a great question, Mike. I'll get to that at
the top of the hour. I appreciate it, thank you.
That's a good question. It's a good question. Mo and
TONI with a Bengals preseason report coming up next. Cincinnati's
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Speaker 16 (38:41):
You know, Tony, these are season preview reports, So maybe
it makes sense to start previewing the season by looking
at some opponents. Let's begin with Week one, Bengals in
Cleveland to take on the Browns. We're gonna watch Joe
Flacco play quarterback in twenty twenty five, which is not
something I would have had in my Big Go card.

Speaker 2 (39:00):
Maybe even last year.

Speaker 16 (39:03):
I think with the Bengals, given their recent history, it
feels like any week one opponent is dangerous. What sits
in the back of our head is what happened against
the Patriots last year at home. Should we fear something
similar for the Bengals this go around against the Browns?

Speaker 17 (39:16):
Well, I think there are two paths that could give
the Bengals fits this year, and the Browns, while not
an explosive offensive team, they have both of them.

Speaker 2 (39:24):
One is the ability to run the ball.

Speaker 17 (39:26):
Doesn't feel like regardless of who the running back is
in Cleveland, they have had success running the ball in
recent years. Now with Nick Chubb being gone and what
that backfield now looks like, they're not going to have
Quinchawn Jenkins. But still, if you're playing the Bengals, the
idea is, can we run the ball and can we
shrink the game and limit the possessions of the Bengals offense.
That's what the Browns, I would assume, are going to

(39:48):
try to do. Set up some play action passes with
Joe Flacco. I've not seen any resistance from the Bengals
front as it relates to stopping the run yet this year.
So that's going to be a major question mark. Trey
Hendrickson's gonna help. He's not been great against the run.
The second part about this teams that can get home
by rushing four and dropping seven. Miles Garrett, if you
follow along with anything going on in Cleveland right now,

(40:10):
they love what they've seen out of Mason Graham this camp.
There are still questions on this Bengals offensive line. Miles
Garrett reeks havoc on everyone in the NFL game one
super charged up. It's not like it's late in the
season where the game's a throwaway. I'm worried about the
rush of Cleveland and being able to get home with four,
and I'm worried about the running game of Cleveland.

Speaker 16 (40:31):
Is there any scenario, let's talk about the season as
a whole. Is there any scenario where the Browns don't
finish in last place in the AFC North.

Speaker 2 (40:39):
I don't see it.

Speaker 17 (40:40):
I mean, barring a catastrophic injury to someone in the
AFC North, I don't see how they can finish above
the Bengals. I don't see how they can finish above
the Steelers or the Baltimore Ravens.

Speaker 2 (40:51):
They just they don't have enough on offense.

Speaker 17 (40:54):
And again the rush defense of the Bengals is what
concerns me. But if you get I mean on the
other side of it, if you can start fast offensively
and you go up a couple scores, you make them
one dimensional, then I think you're gonna have a field
day in Cleveland. But it's not just the Browns. Every
team that the Bengals face this year is going to
try to run the ball, to work the clock and

(41:14):
limit possessions. And every team is going to try to
drop seven or eight and get home with three or four.

Speaker 11 (41:18):
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Speaker 2 (41:34):
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not Mowegar. Chad Brendle filling in as Mo heads out
to Kansas City with the Bearcats or the big game
tomorrow night, Bearcats taking on Nebraska. Thank you for choosing

(41:58):
me much appreciate. Are you coming tomorrow night, tarn you
stopping down?

Speaker 13 (42:04):
Best to plan?

Speaker 2 (42:05):
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tomorrow night. Come watch with me, Come watch with Arran.
We're gonna watch the Bearcats take on the corn Huskers.
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(42:27):
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I don't know if they'll do this for everybody. I
wonder if they saw the name on the order and
they were like, we gotta take care of chat. Probably not,

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but they were. The customer service was great. They were
really busy, so they were just a couple of minutes
running behind the estimated time. We got some free chicken nuggets,
which were like a gourmet fact simile of McDonald's chicken
McNuggets outstanding, and the tater tots might be some of
the best tater tots I've ever had. Great Smashburger's loved it.

(43:10):
Thanks to the folks at Heyday for taking care of
me and tarn Boy. We got action, Tarran. Sometimes that's
the fun of doing this show. Right we're on in
the middle of the day, things happen as the show
is going on, and what just happened probably changes the
complexion of the next hour. As it is, it is

(43:30):
being reported that the Bengals are signing Dalton Risner. That's big,
Jordan Schultz, NFL Insider reporting it. Risoner, if you don't know,
zero sacks allowed over the last two regular seasons, He's

(43:53):
been a Viking Tarran. Yes, what's your scouting report on
Dalton Risner?

Speaker 6 (43:57):
This is one of the better Vikings signings at the
Bengal have had. I think you stay healthy, I mean,
he'll he'll I think he'll be uh do a good
job protecting Burrow.

Speaker 2 (44:09):
I mean, that's the thing, right, Like I injuries are
part of the problem. I think. I think when you
see a guy that's been out there for as long
as he's been out there, you wonder, why is this
guy available on August twenty seventh. But I don't wonder
that because all I know is the Bengals have done
a horrific job of protecting Joe Burrow, horrific since he

(44:32):
came into the league. Horrific job of protecting Joe Burrow.
So you go take an area that I think everybody
thought stinks, stinks needed an upgrade, an immediate upgrade, and
at the eleventh hour they go out and get Dalton Risner,

(44:52):
who I'm going to be quite honest, generally in these
free agent deals, he was here last week. Once they leave,
that's it, they're going somewhere else. If they leave without
getting a deal done, the odds just drop drastically that
that guy's going to come play for your franchise. So
kudos to the front office. Much maligned, we get the
front office a lot of a lot of flak, but

(45:15):
kudos to the front office for going out and getting
this done. Dalton Risner is going to be a Bengal
according to Jordan Schultz, and an instant, instant stock up
on that offensive line. Instant one year deal. So not bad, no,
I mean, you know this guy, this guy's going to

(45:36):
be trying to prove himself. He's going to be trying
to make a name for himself in a market that
that glossed over him, that left him available until August
twenty seventh. He's got a lot to prove, got a
lot to show, and now he gets to protect a
top two quarterback in the NFL. So big, big move

(45:57):
from the Bengals. There's plenty of time to criticize the Bengals,
and they waited the way that they do business, not
when they go out and get something done like this.
We'll put that on hold until maybe tomorrow at noon
when I fill in for Moe and Toni on Sincy
three sixty. We'll see what happens. Be three now and then.
Uh so if you want to react to that, five one, three, seven, four, nine,

(46:19):
fifteen thirty. The Red's lineup is out for tonight in
Los Angeles. Friedol And center hits leadoff, Marte in right batting, second,
de la Cruz on that short batting, third, Hayesen left batting,
clean up, Lux the DH batting, fifth, Steer batting six
that first, Trevino in the seventh hole behind the plate,

(46:40):
Cabrian hayes at third, batting, eighth, Matt McLean batting ninth.
Nico Lodolo returning from the blister on the mound against
Shohei Ohtani. I mean, I don't know what like that's
about his That as good of a lineup as they

(47:04):
can put out there, so we'll see how it goes.
They had success against a Tony last time.

Speaker 6 (47:13):
See how it goes for him to avoid being swept.
You know, I hate these close calls, Taren. Can I
be honest with you, I'm so over the swept thing.

Speaker 13 (47:26):
That's the only thing I'm holding on too.

Speaker 2 (47:27):
They're three games over five hundred. I don't care that
they haven't been swept all year, Like it's laughable. Not
being swept all year should be a badge of honor.
It's not a badge of honor. When you're three games
over five hundred and three and a half games out
of the seventh wild card spot. You're the eighth best
team in baseball in the National League, the eighth best

(47:50):
team in a sixteen team league. I don't care that
you haven't been swept all year. Does that make me
a bad person? I know everybody seems to love it.
It makes me irrationally angry that they haven't been swept
all year. In they're three games over five hundred's make
you a bad person. I don't find any joy in it.

(48:13):
They should be better, do you not agree? I mean,
they should be better, but they haven't been swept all year.
Not once has a team taken three in a row.
That means that they have lost two out of three,
so many damn times this year?

Speaker 13 (48:33):
Good? Hang the banner?

Speaker 2 (48:36):
Is that all?

Speaker 4 (48:37):
Is that?

Speaker 2 (48:37):
Where we're at now? We're just trying to get that
baby steps, Chad, hang the banner. I'm tired of baby steps,
Tarram and taking baby steps since freaking what nineteen eighty nine,
nineteen ninety We've been taking baby steps since nineteen ninety.
I was I was thirteen years old when they won
the World Series. They've barely done a damn thing since then.

(49:04):
Haven't been swept. Get the heck out of here. Let's
go to the phones. Mike in La Mike, talk me
off the ledge. I'm mad about the whole haven't been
swept thing. I want him to get swept tonight.

Speaker 16 (49:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (49:17):
Who in the hell cares whether they haven't done swell?
I mean it is kind of cool in a way,
I guess, but it's all just window dressing.

Speaker 2 (49:23):
Three games over five hundred.

Speaker 8 (49:25):
Yeah, exactly, running the mill, running the mill, running the mill.
Exciting player that can't catch a ground ball between his legs.

Speaker 2 (49:34):
You know, Mike, at what age were you taught to
keep your At what age were you taught to keep
your glove down on a ground ball?

Speaker 12 (49:42):
No?

Speaker 8 (49:45):
I mean imagine if you're in a playoff game and
you do that.

Speaker 2 (49:47):
Yeah, not ready for prime time, these Reds. It's not
even a pennant race yet. We're not even into September
and these guys are folding like a cheap suit.

Speaker 8 (49:58):
Yeah, guys called into talkbacks today and they say, I'm
not Mike from La. He can kiss my auntie. He
just wants to talk about the Dodgers. And I haven't
talked about the Dodgers in a long time. I mentioned
him a few times lately because they's appropriate. They're playing
the Reds pool and and I just brought up the

(50:20):
point of how important a benches that Tiky Hernandez has
been out for a couple of weeks, Tommy Edmonds has
been out for a coming help from win the game.
So benches do matter, critically matter.

Speaker 2 (50:33):
Good players matter, Mike, the Reds don't have enough good players.

Speaker 8 (50:39):
Oh they don't. You know, he can play anywhere except catcher,
can short stop. I mean, they got ten guys in
their whole bullpen was decimated. It's not that long ago.

(51:00):
So their whole bullpen are guys that they brought up
from the miners, virtually all of them. So again, it's
the value of having guys in the system, and you're
willing to use them fools. Yeah, dal Stewart, what's he
doing down there? What was you gonna get another couple
of another couple of bats to help him have a
better future. He could walk off the curb and.

Speaker 2 (51:22):
Dinam all, he's gonna he's gonna hit seven more home
runs in the miners before they call them up.

Speaker 8 (51:28):
Yeah, just a couple of them here would be nice,
you know what I mean? Now, and Clayton Kershaw still
just blows me away. Thirty eight years ago.

Speaker 2 (51:39):
I mean, that's that's JV versus Varsity, him pitching against
this Reds lineup.

Speaker 8 (51:45):
It kind of was last night that Yeah, And like
I say, he ain't no kid anymore. You didn't have
that fastball anymore, but he can turn that curveball and
hose you up bad. I'm worried about Lodolas who, like
you said, Chid because those blisters can be something that
pitchers never do get over. And like you said, with
that sweeper, I'm no expert, but the grip has got

(52:08):
to be brutal on those tips of those fingers to
spin that thing across the plate like he does.

Speaker 2 (52:14):
Well, you would think some guys are gonna build up
like a toughness to that, a callous to that, where
they don't get the blisters over and over again. Lodolo
has shown that that blister issue can happen at any
time with him throwing that sweeper with his grip on it.
And I mean, can you afford that guy at such

(52:35):
a critical juncture in your season? You know, Mike, you
heard me talk about this before the season that my
biggest concern was the only guy that had thrown more
than one hundred and fifty innings in a season was
Brady's singer. Nobody else had done it. And guess what
We're getting into August and things keep popping up for

(52:55):
these guys.

Speaker 8 (52:57):
Yeah, they tattooed hundred the other night. Really, I mean really,
but they got the big hits when they needed them
and looking deep twice and that wasn't another That wasn't
another Dodger that they go, oh, yeah, they paid for
all these guys, No they didn't. Andy Pater has came
up through their organization just like most of their players,
except for the three or four big big stars, but
a lot of teams have three or four big stars

(53:19):
that they traded for. And it's the matter of your
of your of your system and how you developed and you.

Speaker 2 (53:24):
Know all that.

Speaker 8 (53:26):
What's what's the You think the UC game tomorrow night?

Speaker 2 (53:32):
That what's our quarterbacks name Brendan Soursby.

Speaker 8 (53:37):
Yeah, you think he might have a big night. I
don't keep looking for this guy to break out and
have some kind of nice season.

Speaker 2 (53:43):
I mean, he had a good start to the year
last year.

Speaker 10 (53:46):
Mike.

Speaker 2 (53:46):
Would you be surprised if I told you he threw
for twenty eight hundred yards last year?

Speaker 8 (53:50):
Yeah, I am surprised.

Speaker 2 (53:51):
I mean he had a really good start and then
and then he just couldn't finish. He couldn't those final
five six games. He just didn't have it. He's he's
got to figure out a way to be good throughout
the twelve game season and not just good at the
start like we saw last year. But I do think
he's primed for a big year. I think he's got
better weapons. I think they've got a better pass blocking

(54:14):
offensive line. So that's now on Soresby to go out
and play well. And I'll tell you what, Mike, I'm
the more I dig into Nebraska, I have not talked
myself into a Cincinnati win yet. But the more I
dig into Nebraska, I don't understand where the hype is
coming from. I don't understand it.

Speaker 8 (54:37):
Probably which has been gone for one since tom Osmore
and weft.

Speaker 2 (54:42):
Every year the Nebraska's back. No, they've had, they went.
They've made one bowl game since twenty sixteen, and that
was last year at six and six.

Speaker 8 (54:51):
Yeah. Yeah, they move in a tough way too.

Speaker 2 (54:54):
They had thirty they had thirty sacks. Thirty sacks last year.
Mike is a team. Twenty five of them are gone.

Speaker 8 (55:03):
Yeah, I knew they lost some guy. I didn't know
it was that. Well. That post is a good scenario
for why don't you just jump? I'm gonna jump on
the Cats. I'm taking the points for real.

Speaker 2 (55:11):
Yeah, I think it's gonna be closer than six and
a half. I think it's closer than six. I think
it's a one score game all the way to the wire.
I'm I'm close to talking myself into the Bearcats winning.
I just there's gonna I mean, it's gonna be a
pro Nebraska crowd. There's gonna be eighty thousand people there.
It's gonna be a close game. It's gonna be loud,
So I'm giving Nebraska a slight edge, But I don't

(55:33):
think talent wise, I don't think these two teams are
all that different. I think they're pretty close.

Speaker 8 (55:38):
That's the way it looks what I've been reading. And
they still got kinder right running the ball.

Speaker 2 (55:42):
Now, the guy no Kiner is with the forty nine ers,
unfortunately at a high ankle spring a couple of weeks ago,
so he's going to start the season on the ir
But I they have Tywee Walker. Did you watch Wisconsin
last year? The big the little bowling ball back for Wisconsin,
Tywee Walker is now at Cincinnati.

Speaker 8 (56:03):
Oh well, that should be a nice You should be
able to run between the tackles effectively there, Yes, yep.
And they got another back to.

Speaker 2 (56:12):
Evan Pryor, Ohio state transfer. He was the home run
hitter last year. They expect him to be better in
between the tackles. He's had a fifteen pounds of muscle.
So yeah, I think I think between Prior and Walker,
I think they're going to be fine running the football.
And look, Scott's Hadderfield teams have always been able to
run the football, so I don't think this one's going

(56:33):
to be any different.

Speaker 8 (56:35):
And we still got an all American tight end.

Speaker 2 (56:37):
Yes, Joe Royer is still very much in the building.

Speaker 8 (56:42):
One quick food question. Did you ever go up the
street and Clifton there to that Jamaican joint called Island Friday?

Speaker 2 (56:49):
That was my favorite meal in the city, Mike, I
told you about Island Fridays many of times. They are reopening.
They closed a couple months ago. They are reopening in
uh in College Hill, right, Terren correct College Hill.

Speaker 8 (57:05):
So they left Clifton completely.

Speaker 2 (57:06):
They left Clifton completely, but the food truck is opening
uh this weekend in College Hill and uh I uh,
I'm looking forward to getting back there.

Speaker 8 (57:17):
They had some kick butt ox tail. I mean their
oxtail was off the charts and uh a red snapper.
I like it with the head on. Some people don't
because it freaks them out. That head and meat is
good good. They don't do the eyeballs. Some people do.
Do do the eyeballs, you know, not what you want me.
I can't do that. I can't do that. I just can't.

(57:37):
My ex wife was Jewish. My deceased wife was Jewish,
and she would always try to get me the eat
tongue right.

Speaker 2 (57:44):
I've heard it's good. I won't eat it.

Speaker 8 (57:46):
I've heard it too, but I just can't make myself
to it.

Speaker 2 (57:50):
I can't do it.

Speaker 8 (57:50):
I can't do it.

Speaker 2 (57:52):
Thanks for the ton, appreciate it, Mike. Thank you. Uh
real quick, before we before we take a break. I've
got somebody's saying about the the I'm talking out of
both sides of my mouth about the Reds. They should
be better. And then you say the roster isn't good
enough because I think Santigo Espinal shouldn't be on this roster,

(58:16):
or or at least should be in a much now
they've moved him a little bit. Now that they've gotten
Cabrian Hayes, you haven't seen him as much. I don't
think top to bottom, like if here's the thing, UK
is great, Gregory, go look at the Mets roster and
tell me which roster you'd rather have. That's who they're
competing with. So I can think situationally, if they were

(58:43):
a little cleaner, they weren't a sloppy defensively, if they
weren't a sloppy on the base paths, if they were
a little tighter that they should have a better record,
and I can also look at that and say roster
over roster, Red's roster, Mets roster. I'll take the Mets ross.
And if you don't think you'd take the match roster,

(59:04):
what dispensary do you go to? I'd like to know
take a break more after this. Since that he's ESPN fifteen.

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Speaker 18 (01:00:30):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:00:30):
He is in the Bengals locker room right now and
one of the folks talking in the Bengals locker room
today for the first time since signing his new deal,
Trey Hendrickson. Let's hear from Trey you feel from the
conditioning stampede.

Speaker 8 (01:00:45):
Uh.

Speaker 19 (01:00:46):
You know, Joey Bose did a great job of keeping
me in shape, whether that was forms of conditioning and weightlifting,
and really got after the last month.

Speaker 13 (01:00:54):
So this practice went well.

Speaker 5 (01:00:55):
Uh.

Speaker 19 (01:00:56):
You know, football is a tough sport and I'm looking
forward to getting back in shape, but I'm ready to go.

Speaker 2 (01:01:02):
First time working with Jerry, you know, real practice. How
was that getting to hear from him and what he
brings to the table.

Speaker 13 (01:01:09):
He's a great coach.

Speaker 19 (01:01:10):
He loves ball, if that's evident, teacher of the game,
you know, and he's definitely sees it in a different
perspective and It's good to see the guys around him flourishing.

Speaker 13 (01:01:21):
And I look forward to getting.

Speaker 18 (01:01:22):
With him more and more.

Speaker 19 (01:01:23):
What kind of relief is What kind of relief is
a trade to have the focus now entirely on football
after the last six months you've been for Yeah, the
priority is always the twenty twenty five angles, whatever this
looked like, you know. Unfortunately for me, I can't write
my own contracts. You know, that's something that we had,
you know, calm and ground and finding it, and that's

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what we're doing now, and that's what's best for the
twenty twenty five angles. I think it's just to suit
up and play and incredibly humble by the experience.

Speaker 2 (01:01:52):
Agotiations are taple.

Speaker 19 (01:01:53):
How would you describe your relation from your relationships with.

Speaker 18 (01:01:57):
The Browns and the Black Words after what was a long process?

Speaker 13 (01:02:01):
Yeah?

Speaker 19 (01:02:02):
Again, you know, I can only say it so many times,
and I feel like the compromise between us was mutual.
I mean, should be given a raise in the current circumstances,
you know, with a lot of things that's off. He's
been being brought up about that extension that I signed.
Just now adds whatever story was to that extension.

Speaker 13 (01:02:20):
So in some ways.

Speaker 8 (01:02:22):
It was an incredible.

Speaker 19 (01:02:23):
Honor to be in that position, that a common ground
with the other.

Speaker 2 (01:02:28):
Forms of negotiation not going away. We thought, there you go.
Trey Hendrickson speaks. Look, I think the Bengals got what
they wanted. I don't you know you can. You can
take whatever stance you want on whether you agree with
it or not. But we know we know they have

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shown us over the past five six years they have
kind of an age restriction. Essentially, they do not lie
signing guys over thirty. Trey will be thirty one in December.
They have been pretty hard and fast, like go look
at free agency. If you're not twenty six twenty seven,

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they are not signing you in free agency. They are
not signing twenty eight, twenty nine thirty year olds to
multi year deals. They believe organizationally, you hit that thirty mark,
you're probably not for us, unless your name's Joe Burrow.
I imagine if Joe wants to be here past thirty,
he'll be here as long as he wants to be here.
But everybody else the standard's different. They did not want

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to guarantee money Pass twenty twenty five, and I know
some people in town in the media disagree with me.
I had a disagreement about this yesterday. Tray was gonna
play at some point in time. He was not gonna
leave fifteen million dollars on the table, and he was
not gonna pay the fines that were required to sit out,

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and just don't think it was gonna happen. That's my opinion.
I think the plan was, we're gonna push this as
far as we can push it, and then we'll settle
where we have to settle when it comes time to
getting ready for Week one. And that's essentially what happened.
The Bengals got what they wanted, Trey got his raise.

(01:04:24):
We'll revisit the situation in February March and see what
next year looks like. But for now, a Bengals defense
that desperately needed its best player has him back at
practice and ready to go for Week one. That's a
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Speaker 2 (01:05:34):
Can I kick it?

Speaker 18 (01:05:37):
Can I kick you?

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We think there maybe a new intro start of every hour?
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Speaker 8 (01:05:46):
Can I?

Speaker 2 (01:05:50):
You could? But I mean just the question in general,
maybe not even the song, you know, asking the people
can I kick it? I love the little the Little
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tribe makes me feel good. I appreciate that you feel.

(01:06:12):
I mean the Bengals at least today this team need
a desperate help at guard. They go out and they
get Dalton Risner, a guy that can protect the quarterback
like that. That's that's all that matters for this franchise.
Keep Joe upright. If Joe is upright, you're gonna be good.

(01:06:33):
Your defense might stink, but you're gonna have a chance
to win the game. If Joe Burrow is standing on
both feet, and sometimes even if he's parallel to the ground.
As long as he can deliver the ball, this offense
is gonna be elite. Lucas Patrick or Dalton Risner, I

(01:06:54):
think that's pretty dang easy. Phone lines are open. Let's
go to Jim in Centerville, Jim Dalton Risner.

Speaker 14 (01:07:05):
What you got, Oh yeah, what's having fellas?

Speaker 18 (01:07:08):
Hey, Look, I am a I am a negative, generally
a negative. I will have season tickets and the guy
that's just next to me will sit there like the
two grumpy old guys from the Muppets and just get
so mad at some of the things.

Speaker 14 (01:07:28):
That they do.

Speaker 18 (01:07:29):
But I'm telling you right now, I've never been more
optimistic going into a season than I am this season, even.

Speaker 2 (01:07:37):
Even with the defense looking like they might not be
able to stop me. You and tearing in the preseason.

Speaker 14 (01:07:43):
Well, all right, preseason.

Speaker 18 (01:07:44):
I get that they may be were trying to be
a little cupanilla. Yeah yeah, I know, but but you
could tell they weren't. They weren't doing anything exotic. Yeah,
it's gonna take a while for the defense to catch
up because they have a new coordinator this year. I
don't think that they're going to be very good, and.

Speaker 2 (01:08:06):
I don't think their players are good, not not enough
of at least not enough of them. I don't let
me ask you this. Let me ask you this, Jim.
Take Trey Hendrickson and set him aside. How many guys
on this Bengals defense would you say our top fifteen
in the NFL at their position?

Speaker 18 (01:08:24):
I think that there are some folks that we drafted
over the last couple of years that are going to
creep up in their standing.

Speaker 14 (01:08:34):
No, I well, I don't.

Speaker 9 (01:08:36):
We don't know.

Speaker 7 (01:08:37):
We don't know.

Speaker 14 (01:08:37):
We haven't played this year yet.

Speaker 2 (01:08:39):
But coming into the year, like the preseason rankings are
a thing, coming into the year, how many would you
say this guy's a top fifteen guy at his position
in the NFL at top half of the guy half
of the league guy at his position. I don't think
there's anyone but Tray that's a talent problem.

Speaker 18 (01:08:56):
Well, but I also don't think that out golden pounding
the table for Trey Henderson.

Speaker 3 (01:09:03):
And the reason why.

Speaker 18 (01:09:04):
I feel that way is because if you watch Trey Henderson,
he will trip over the running back with the ball
on his way to get to the quarterback. That's the
only time he ever makes a tackle outside of the sack.

Speaker 2 (01:09:16):
He averages one tackle a game that isn't a sack
last year.

Speaker 7 (01:09:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 14 (01:09:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 18 (01:09:21):
So the fact of the matter is we have a
week run defense because we're playing with three guys on
the defensive line instead of four. Trey Henderson has very
little other than pad. I mean, he he led the
league in sacks last year and didn't win Defensive Player
of the Year. That should tell you everything you need

(01:09:43):
to know right there.

Speaker 2 (01:09:44):
Yeah. He led the league in sacks seventeen sacks and
only had thirty four total tackles that includes the sacks.

Speaker 8 (01:09:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 14 (01:09:51):
Yeah, So I think he's over. I think he's opaid.

Speaker 18 (01:09:54):
I think that I'm happy they only got him on
a one year deal. I think Golden will be done
with them after this year, and we do have to
find somebody who's a better all around player at end.
I'm I'm enthusiastic about Jamar Stewart. At the time we
drafted him, I.

Speaker 3 (01:10:12):
Wasn't real thrilled about it.

Speaker 18 (01:10:14):
It seems like he can't play inside and outside and
play the run, so that the improvement. Yeah, and I'm
excited about the young linebackers. So I don't think whereas
bad on defense, we might start out looking pretty rough.
The good news is we have the Cleveland Browns.

Speaker 3 (01:10:33):
We have the Jacksonville Jaguars.

Speaker 18 (01:10:35):
To kind of get our feet wet after that Minnesota.
You know, depending on if McCarthy's still standing, we might
get a little bit of trouble there. But you know,
I honestly, I don't.

Speaker 3 (01:10:48):
Think it's that bad.

Speaker 2 (01:10:49):
Yeah, I mean, the nice part is you do have
a little bit of ramp up in the beginning for
this defense to find its way, and hopefully they can
because I mean it's a broken record at this point.
But just have to be top twenty, like it just
can't be terrible, just can't be terrible. A couple stops
a game, Joe Burrow is gonna be in position to

(01:11:10):
win you pretty much every game. That doesn't necessarily mean
they're gonna win them, but you get a couple stops
a game, you give Joe a chance to be Joe.
Last year I felt bad for the guy, Like I
legitimately there were games that he had to score on
every drive, couldn't miss a third and four, like everything

(01:11:31):
had to be perfect and that the defense just can't
let that happen. I'm just concerned they have not done
enough to upgrade the personnel on defense to make the
type of jump that this team needs to make. They've
got Joe Burrow. The expectation is Super Bowl contender. The

(01:11:53):
expectation shouldn't be ten wins and try to get into
the playoffs like this isn't the Eli Manning Giants. I'd
take it to be.

Speaker 18 (01:12:04):
They have to be opportunistic, whether it's a top twenty,
top thirty, whatever, they have to have the the ball
bounce their way. Sometimes they have to not be playing
against the other team and the rest I e. Logan
Wilson in the Super Bowl, that John Anthony and that

(01:12:24):
probably was a penalty against the Chiefs.

Speaker 2 (01:12:26):
It was unfortunately it was, yeah, but calling it, you know.

Speaker 8 (01:12:30):
And they have to be opportunistic.

Speaker 18 (01:12:34):
I don't need to see Trey Hendrickson ruff the passer
three times a year, you know, I mean, you know
those that's that's another trade trait.

Speaker 3 (01:12:45):
So so you know things.

Speaker 18 (01:12:46):
Like that, if the ball bounce is our way, which
I know is a wish more than anything, but you know,
I think if we if we catch the ricochets, we
do you know, the right thing. We try to to,
you know, create fumbles, but also not tackle, try to
tackle to create a fumble. I think that's one of

(01:13:06):
the things that lou Ana Ruma always taught and Jermaine
Pratt was great at it. But a lot of our
miss tackles last year team because we were trying to
strip the.

Speaker 7 (01:13:14):
Ball and just tackle.

Speaker 18 (01:13:20):
Maybe he'll fumble on his way to going down, you.

Speaker 2 (01:13:22):
Know, as a as a UC guy, Jim, I go
back to what the defense looked like at the end
of the Tommy Tubberville era where they just couldn't tackle anybody,
to what it looked like by the time Marcus Freeman
had really gotten a hold of that defense, it felt
like for three years Cincinnati never missed a tackle. Like

(01:13:45):
that is technique, that is teaching, that is it can
be if you make it an emphasis, it can be
something that really really changes who you are. And the
tackling the last two years has been dreadful. I don't
I don't know if it was just a matter of

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trying to strip the ball or if they were a
bad like the techniques that they were teaching were bad
and then you add in trying to strip the ball
and it made them worse. Whatever it was, that defense
was held back by the fact that even when they
were in position to make the play, the tackling was
a disaster. And I have seen firsthand as a guy
that has been doing this. You know, I'm on my

(01:14:27):
nineteenth year covering you see now I'm on my twenty
fifth year working in media in the market. It can
make a difference. It can make a difference. So that's
one of the things I do hope there is a
difference in Al Golden's defense because what we watched before this,
they just the effort, the energy to bring a guy

(01:14:49):
to the ground was was poor.

Speaker 18 (01:14:52):
Well, we won't talk about Jordan battle versus Jayden.

Speaker 2 (01:14:56):
Yeah we will Dan, Yes, Yeah, we won't do that.

Speaker 18 (01:15:02):
Yeah that that was Uh, that's not what you want
to see in the preseason. But you know, I'll hang up.
But hey, I appreciate the talk and good stuff. I
feel real optimistic.

Speaker 2 (01:15:13):
Thanks for the call, Jim, and hopefully you're not up
in that balcony complain and because Cleveland's got you know,
four hundred yards of offense. Thanks Jim. Appreciate it. Yeah,
that's it's the little stuff like that though. And and
you know, you talk about simplifying things and and quote

(01:15:33):
unquote dumbing them down to make the defense more efficient,
but a lot of it is just as simple as
go make the tackle when you're in the vicinity, get
the guy to the ground. Don't be in the vicinity.
Like what happens generally in a play in space, you

(01:15:53):
make one guy miss and then there's open grass in
front of you. For the last couple of years, the
Bengals have not been able to make that tackle in
open space. And uh, you know, it might have been
a five to six yard game if you make the tackle,
and instead it's a twenty yard game. And instead you've
now flipped field position, You've given the offense momentum, You've

(01:16:17):
put the offense in a position to control the action
because of a mistackle, because of a missed opportunity to
make a play. And they just haven't made enough plays
the last two years. Be it sacks by somebody not
named Trey Hendrickson, be it interceptions, be it force fumbles,

(01:16:40):
be it making tackles, be it you know, forcing a
guy out wide so that somebody else on the defense
can get to him, setting the edge and forcing a
guy out wide so that one of your your dbs
can come up, and so your safety can come up
and make a play, and instead you get sealed. The
lane opens and it looks like the first two drives

(01:17:02):
of that Commander's game, where guys are stuck on blocks
and ball carriers are just running twenty five yards downfield
before anybody puts a hand on him. And it's crazy
because if you go back to the Super Bowl and
the AFC Championship, heres, they did a lot of the

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bowels of pay Course Stadium. Right.

Speaker 9 (01:19:32):
No, I'm actually in my car talking to you, and
then I'm gonna go finish writing a Trey Henderson story.

Speaker 2 (01:19:37):
Uh, skinny Trey Henderson spoke to the media today. Damn,
it feels good to be a gangster. Trey is back.
And what was the feel today in the locker room?

Speaker 9 (01:19:48):
You know, I thought he was you know, he's kind
of a moody at times. I thought he's in a
really good mood and should be. I mean, I think
thirty millions well, and he like us, he does. He
likes to play football, that part I'm gonna give. I
think he's a guy who really enjoys the game a football.
It probably hurt him standing there watching. He even said,
you know, I'm not a coach, I'm a player. And
he spent more time coaching guys up in trading camp

(01:20:09):
obviously because he didn't practice at all. So I'm sure
that that felt good for him too. And yeah, I mean,
to come to the deal they came to, I think
it's a win win for both and and you know,
for Trades, the flexibility of perhaps going to free agency
after this year and cashing in big. For the Bengals,
it's you're not on the hook pass this year, and
if you decide you want to be and franchise tag him,

(01:20:32):
well then you're the one who control that narrative too,
and so I think they both gave themselves a flexibility
to move on after this year or move together after
this year.

Speaker 2 (01:20:40):
And in a similar way, how much does this change
the Bengals defense? How much does this change the outlook?
I mean, we know what it looks like with Trey,
we know it wasn't good last year. We saw a
lot of problems in the first two preseason games when
the ones were out there. But how much of a
lift is this? Get this done and get him back

(01:21:01):
in the fold.

Speaker 9 (01:21:03):
I mean, obviously he's a premier pass rusher. There's other
parts of this game that have flaws for sure, especially
against the run, But that doesn't mean that whoever was
going to replace him, if they had to replace him
for a period of time, was going to be any
better at it. I mean, Miles Murphy hasn't been good
at either the run, stopping the run or rushing the pass.
Or Joseph Osai is primarily a pass rusher who took
a long time to develop into one and finally did

(01:21:24):
down the stretch last year, and we still don't know
about Shamar Stewart. So it gives you a peace of
mind of knowing what you have for starters. It puts
this behind everybody to where you go, Okay, he'll be
able to play in Week one in Cleveland. You put
the best foot forward for the football team. So I
think in that regard it is important. And listen, if
he wants to get paid a to this year, you

(01:21:45):
know what you're gonna have to get on Tree Henderson
a great year, right, So you not that he needs
more motivation. I mean there's things about Trandickson that are goofy,
but I do think, like I said, he loves football.
He's gonna be in shape, he plays with a motor.

Speaker 8 (01:21:58):
But you wanted to be even a little.

Speaker 9 (01:21:59):
More motivate to know he's got to play great and
put up big numbers to get paid if you're getting that,
because that's exactly what's gonna have to happen.

Speaker 2 (01:22:08):
Dalton Risner reportedly signing with the Bengals. Do you have
that confirmed on your end? Where's that at as far
as what you're.

Speaker 9 (01:22:16):
Aware of, Yeah, it sounds like it's happening. I'm man,
Dalton Reisner. I mean, when you've been on the street
this long in the offseason, there's something there that teams
aren't really connecting with I mean, the first part of
his career in Denver was good. He started all sixty
two games, he was healthy in his first four years,
and then he started nineteen games over the last two
years out of the twenty five he played. And he's

(01:22:37):
gonna he's thirty years old right now. Could it be
an upgrade to Lucas Patrick? Could be? Is he definitively?
I don't know. Again, there's a lot of teams that
kicked the tires on this guy and send him.

Speaker 3 (01:22:49):
On his mary Way.

Speaker 9 (01:22:50):
I mean he came here and visited and left without
the deal he was looking for, and finally, I'm guessing
he went other places and finally said, Okay, well, I
mean that's not like he's gonna break the bank for me,
So I'll come to a place where I got a
shot to win. Does it hurt No, I mean they
need depth. You know, yesterday when they only kept aid
offensive a lineman on the fifty three, it raised red
flags that are like, oh wow, they hate their guys.

(01:23:11):
They only kept adid of them. So it always felt
like today was going to be the day they either
went to the waiver wire, and that came and went
at noon, and they didn't make a claim on anybody
that was cut from another team, or go back and
revisit the Dalton Reisner situation. And I think that's that's
what happened. I'm guessing they looked at the waiver wire
guys and just didn't like any of them, didn't think
an m would be any kind of an upgrade or
a help, and then came back and said, all right,

(01:23:31):
let's go back to Plan B, which is Dalton Reisner.
And I will say this, I think it'll be a
tad bit troublesome if he is the starter at right
gard in Cleveland. I mean, it would tell me that
they are out on Lucas Patrick faster than you can
be out on somebody. And I don't think they're there yet.
I think this is more of a less easy man.
It'll be interesting, mart And we talked to Zach Taylor
tomorrow and you know, I mean yesterday he said he

(01:23:52):
was asked point blank usual starting right guard currently on
the roster, and he said yes, and that would be
either Cody Ford or Lucas Patrick or Galen Rivers. I
don't know one of which, because you're not committed to anybody,
and it might be beault Rider. I mean, maybe he
comes in and three practices are gonna be enough for
him to be ready to play Cleveland. That would be
troublesome to me because I don't think the guy's gonna
know the whole playbook.

Speaker 2 (01:24:11):
At that point.

Speaker 9 (01:24:11):
In my opinion, that's a big, big, big ask.

Speaker 2 (01:24:14):
What would you say to somebody that looked at I
think he was thirteenth in past blocking grade on PFF.
What would you say to somebody that looks at that
and says, what is the hang up is? It can't
just be injuries, like he didn't miss, you know, a
whole season. It doesn't seem like he's got anything that's
like chronic, Like what do you think that was out

(01:24:37):
there that because on paper at least hasn't allowed a
sack in two years and doesn't get penalized and like
the talking points sound great on this guy. So why
was he still available in August twenty seventh?

Speaker 3 (01:24:51):
It's a great question.

Speaker 9 (01:24:52):
I mean, you know, I would also say this if
you ask the overwhelming majority of coaches. Yep, Yeah, they
stoff at PFF grades. Not not only but they scoff at them.
And some of that might just be that they don't
like somebody else grading them, and that's because you don't
know what everybody Yeah, of course, you know, I don't

(01:25:12):
know what he's like as a run blocker. I know this.
They are offensive line on this team that think Lucas
Patrick's the best run blocker that they've had around them
in a while. And so that's there's two parts of that. Well,
I know this isn't a running team. It is a
passing team, and your job is mainly to protect Joe Burrow.
I think they do want to run the ball more
and more efficiently and feel like, Okay, you know last
year Alex Kapat didn't play so good and Joe Burrow

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still had a great year, and he's played behind some
bad offensive lines and still had good years, and that
he can mask some of that stuff. And if you
want to run the ball better, well, sometimes you're gonna
give up a pass blocker to get a run blocker
in there. I think that's what they got Lucas Patrick for.
Maybe that's not Felton Riser strong suit. I don't know.
I don't know the answer to that, chan I don't
I mean, I think it's part of partially thirty year
offensive lineman. Just like a lot of you feel like

(01:25:54):
it feels like anyone in this league, thirty is the
massive number one team.

Speaker 2 (01:25:57):
He's done.

Speaker 9 (01:25:58):
You're ancient. Yeah, you're ancient. Not every thirty year old
is built the same. I mean they're just not.

Speaker 2 (01:26:03):
I mean, imagine that I was over the hill eighteen
years ago, Like seventeen years ago, I struggled.

Speaker 9 (01:26:09):
Over the hill apparently more than half my life.

Speaker 2 (01:26:15):
Uh, is this maybe the best offense in Bengals history?
If they can figure this line out with the with
Joe Burrow, with Chase Brown, with the wide receivers, with
the tight ends, does this have the potential and should
this be the best offense in Bengal history?

Speaker 9 (01:26:32):
Yes, you know, I can go to the two thousand
and five offense was pretty am good. The Boomer offenses
in the eighties when James Brooks was at his prime
and you had you know, basically two thousand yard rushers
and him and Eddie Brown and that Jim McGee Sam Unfortunately,
some of the things he had Tim McGee, some of
those teams unfortunately were played by back defenses. I mean
they lost a game early that you're to San Diego
in eighty six, forty four, forty two, So it feels

(01:26:53):
like kind of where we're at Todavi. But yeah, I mean,
what don't you have? You have the number one mega
superstar at one wide receiver. You got a pretty darn
good guy at the other wide receiver. You got a
tight end is coming off of a nice year, and
a tight end group actually is a hole that had
over one hundred catches among them. So they're and they've
probably upgraded as a backup with Noah Fanpt in there
when they go to two tight end sets.

Speaker 8 (01:27:15):
By the way, I've.

Speaker 9 (01:27:15):
Written and some others on the beat of written and
talked about how Chase Brown's gonna make a run at
James Brooks's single season darge from scrimmage record, which is
just a shade over seventeen hundred if he stays healthy.
I mean, what don't you have? You can argue that
you don't have a top notch offensive line, but I
who does? I mean, who does?

Speaker 8 (01:27:32):
In this league?

Speaker 9 (01:27:33):
I mean, I think everybody has to mask offensive line
deficiencies in this league.

Speaker 2 (01:27:37):
The Eagles, like, that's the only I can go to the Eagles.

Speaker 8 (01:27:39):
They got two great tackles there's no quote.

Speaker 9 (01:27:41):
Yeah, they have two great tackles, there's no doubt about yet.
That's a that's probably a fair point. That's why they
had to success.

Speaker 2 (01:27:47):
Stay do Yeah, there's one. There's thirty two teams. I
can think of one team that comes to mind that
I go, Yeah, offensive line is is really really really
strong for them?

Speaker 9 (01:27:56):
Yeah, no, that's a fair point. But right to my point,
brod men into them. And he still have a guy
who's been a pro bowler in Orlando Brown Junior. You
have a rookie. He looks like he's got a ton
of the upside and Dylan fair shot. Now again, he
has yet to see a major twist or a stun
or an exotic blitz, and we'll see how he handles
that when when the live bullets come over and when
he has Miles Garrett landing up over going, Hey, rook

(01:28:16):
I'm here, Hello, welcome. So those things will see and
obviously you know you got your first round picking the
right time. I mean, there are parts on this offensive
line that are really good and if you're having the mask,
just one of those spots and right now it's right
guard and you feel like again you've now added more
competitive juice to that position. Okay, I'm no. I think
your point it is, it's got.

Speaker 3 (01:28:35):
A chance chance to be, and honestly probably.

Speaker 8 (01:28:36):
Should be if everybody stays healthy.

Speaker 2 (01:28:39):
By the way, Whitney Reisner just posted a TikTok in
Bengals gear. Uh so there's your confirmation.

Speaker 9 (01:28:47):
Well, she's she's not staying in the parking lot yelling
at the team like Tam and Bryan's wife and rightfully so, by.

Speaker 2 (01:28:53):
The way, hopefully she opened her parking packet.

Speaker 9 (01:28:56):
Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:28:58):
Red's I'm forty seven, You're a year or two older
than me. Has there ever been a good West Coast
road swing? Like? It just feels like every August that's
where dreams go to die.

Speaker 9 (01:29:13):
And this one started off with promising and it felt like, Okay,
it's the very worst. Four and five is good and
they can still get out at four and five. By
the way, but that felt like okay, that okay, maybe
five and four and boy, that would be something. And
instead now you're trying to to keep that streak alive
of avoiding the sweep. Listen, last night, it was just
a catastrophe on every levels, from from the lineup to

(01:29:35):
decisions in the game to the Noel de Marte bunt
to to you know, once again Nick Martinez not living
up to twenty one million dollars. That was that was
just a catastrophe. Let's hope that they have that DNA
and which is been Hey, when it comes down to
trying to avoid the sweep, they do it and look
for Nicolodolo. Blister popped up on him. He was pitching

(01:29:56):
great and hopefully he picks up right where he left off.

Speaker 2 (01:29:58):
Would you ask him to out there on the sweeper? Like,
is the blister that much of a concern for you?
But the blister that the sweeper is causing the blister, right.

Speaker 8 (01:30:08):
That's right.

Speaker 9 (01:30:09):
But put that thing in pickle juice.

Speaker 8 (01:30:10):
Just soak your fingers and pickle juice.

Speaker 9 (01:30:11):
That's what That's what they did back in the day
and avoided blisters or make blisters go away or turn
into cows.

Speaker 2 (01:30:16):
All right, the pickle juice. I heard that that helps
keep you from getting dehydrated.

Speaker 9 (01:30:20):
It is this, do you know, do you know what
else is supposed back in the day people would do
with blisters.

Speaker 8 (01:30:26):
I'm gonna get gross.

Speaker 2 (01:30:27):
On you here, yeah it right? Yeah, yeah, Like it
was a jellyfish thing.

Speaker 9 (01:30:33):
Correct.

Speaker 8 (01:30:34):
I don't know if I'm gonna go that.

Speaker 9 (01:30:35):
I go to pickle pickle juice wrap. Think about that.

Speaker 2 (01:30:38):
I would too, So pickle juice good for uh dehydration,
uh Chick fil a chicken sandwiches and blisters and blisters
and blisters. Yeah. This notion in the organization that just
draft all the shortstops and then we'll figure it out

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from there. Is that dumb? Are we starting to realize?
That's as dumb as it sounds.

Speaker 9 (01:31:03):
I don't mind that. I mean, you know, short stops
are clearly using the best athlete on the field when
they're playing. You know, give me shortstops in center fielders.
I'll figure out what to do with them at that point.
Give me all those you can get. I think I
could figure out a way. I just don't. I don't
need you to move a guy from third base to
right field and then the centerfield. I mean, goodness, gracious,
let him breathe and learn how to play right field

(01:31:24):
for a minute before we decide we want to make
him a centerfielder, which is apparently what they want to do.
That's fine, let's do that. On February twenty ninth and
good year, the leap year. Let's not do that.

Speaker 7 (01:31:33):
Let's not do that.

Speaker 9 (01:31:34):
While you're chasing a playoffs butt and I know you're
trying to get all the right handed bats in the
lineup you could. I'd rather have TJ Field trying to
hit Clayton Kershaw than I would have in Santiago. Espin
all play right field and Noelvee Marte plays centerfield. Let's
not do that ever ever again.

Speaker 2 (01:31:49):
Yeah, there's just some things that do you have you heard?
Did Francona call the bunt? Did Marte do it on
his own?

Speaker 8 (01:31:57):
Well, we said Marte did.

Speaker 9 (01:31:59):
It on his own?

Speaker 2 (01:32:00):
Would that why he's never had a sacrifice bunt in
his entire career? What in his brain says bunt? He's
the hottest hitter on the team.

Speaker 9 (01:32:11):
The only thing I can think of would be this
the manager once you got to move guys over and
figure out ways to move guys over. Maybe he thought,
you know what I'm gonna I'm gonna do that what
he's been asking us to do, which is to move
some guys along. I would rather that signal come from
the manager, and then he's the one held accountable for
that crappy decision. The player trying to do something on
his own, especially a guy, and he hasn't hit in

(01:32:33):
this serial. I think he was over going to last night,
the last couple of games, and again maybe in his
mind was doing the right thing. But but I had
rather that be a call from from in the dugouts,
from the player making that decision on his own.

Speaker 2 (01:32:45):
How much research have you done on Nebraska for Cincinnati Nebraska?

Speaker 8 (01:32:50):
Uh, not a ton.

Speaker 9 (01:32:51):
I mean, Dominic Grayola is a goof nut, but he's
really talented. I mean, the one thing that's been interesting
to me if you go to some college football pundit's
nashally long shot pick to play in the College Football
Playoff is Nebraska.

Speaker 2 (01:33:05):
Because they have a weak Big Ten schedule. I don't
think people like looking at their roster skinny. I think
Rayola is good, you know, I do think it's funny.
I think he's saying he doesn't want to be seen
as Patrick Mahomes. When he dresses like Patrick Mahomes, he
acts like Patrick Mahomes. Like people compare you to Patrick

(01:33:25):
Mahomes because you're trying to be Patrick Mahomes. But ultimately,
though his numbers last year weren't better than Brendan Sorosby.
He had thirteen touchdowns eleven interceptions. Everybody's looking at Rayolas
like he's going to be a great quarterback this year.
I don't know that Soorsby is not better.

Speaker 9 (01:33:47):
Yeah. The only thing I would say is, I mean,
another year older, another year wiser, with a very very
huge pedigree on him, that he was a kind of
a can't miss kid, and sometimes it might take a
little minute or two to have that kick in, and
maybe they feel like this is the year it kicks in.
You know, Matt Wolves probably got you know, finally got
some of his stuff in place, and he's it's been
a proven coach. Obviously it didn't work out in the

(01:34:07):
NFL for him, but it's been He's been good in college.
I will say this yet, I think this game is
just mind monumental or from where this season goes, because
you got the two buy wins. After this, then you
got to go to Kansas and that's going to be
tough because I think they're good once again, and Glance
Lifell it's a great coach. But go three and oh,
go three and oh, go to Kansas and steel that
and I want to see what Nipperstdium looks like on

(01:34:28):
October fourth, when Iowa State comes to town, the flip
side is lose this, lose to Kansas, you win your
two by games. I think people even would check out
that early on them, and so I I think this
is so huge to set the tone for this year.

Speaker 2 (01:34:39):
I do I look. I think in that regard, I
think if they win, they are They're not relevant, but
at least they're not off the map. I think if
they lose, correct, nobody, nobody's talking about Cincinnati the ret
like you'd have to do something remarkable to get any
national press the rest of.

Speaker 9 (01:34:57):
The way correct right and again get into Big twelve.
At that point when you know things go sideways again.
You can just imagine what the horma will be and
the negativity will be surrounding this. It'll literally be just
to count down to Scott Saderfield being let go as
head coach. And I don't think anybody wants that or
wishes that. I think, you know, again, win this game,

(01:35:20):
you're three and oh for sure, yeah, then go those
steal one at Kansas, and I mean you get Iowa
State coming to town at four, and oh, I think
that place will be rocking, and you do have a
chance at that point to be very relevant.

Speaker 2 (01:35:31):
Yeah, all right, man, I appreciate it, and keep up
the good work and I will talk to you soon. Thanks,
Kenny good Due. All right, here you go, Richard Skinner,
Local twelve Digital content Editor. Let's take a breaklay snoween
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How's it going, my friend, It's been a while.

Speaker 3 (01:37:00):
It has been a while, you know, I've been trying
to avoid talking about this team too much.

Speaker 2 (01:37:07):
I don't blame you. I wish I had that option. Look,
we have been on this roller coaster ride for a
long time. Now they are back to a three games
over five hundred. They really need a win tonight and
show hey, Otani's on the mound, easy peasy.

Speaker 3 (01:37:25):
Right, Yeah, I think this is about I'm usually not
a nail in the coffin before the season's really really over,
but this has a different feeling to it. It feels
like this could be.

Speaker 2 (01:37:37):
It is it just a matter of organizationally, this team
needs to do a better job of figuring out who
they have and who they are, because I feel like
we're in August. This is a team that is supposed
to be defense, pitching, run creation, and it feels like

(01:37:59):
only the pitch is actually their identity. They're bad defensively,
they don't create runs. They obviously don't have any power,
but that's apparently by design. It just feels like organizationally,
this franchise is kind of lost in the woods right now.

Speaker 3 (01:38:17):
Yeah, it does. It felt like the past couple of
years since they you know, kind of started another rebuild,
it kind of felt like they're getting some good players together,
maybe we'll see something. And then the organizational just philosophy
shift and approach and hitting and sucking the power out
of the lineup, and you know, being in love with

(01:38:38):
Santiago Espinal and you know, the whole list of things
has just been a step backwards in my opinion. And
you know, at what point do we think it's going
to take a step forward. If you know Frank Kona
and Chris Paleka and those you know calling the shots
and directing the traffic here are still in charge.

Speaker 2 (01:38:59):
I just wonder.

Speaker 8 (01:39:02):
This.

Speaker 2 (01:39:03):
They they have said the quiet part out loud, and
they have said the reason that they have gone to
this this focus on shortstops and you know, being able
to move them around and do different things. And and
you know, you're taking a guy that was the best
athlete on the field and bringing him into your organization.
They didn't want to bring. They don't want to draft

(01:39:25):
power hitters because power hitters get expensive fast, and they
think that they can keep the payroll in line, like
does does that? Is that just not baseball the way
it's played in twenty twenty five. It just feels like
there there's just scratching lottery tickets and hoping that one
of them hits, and it just doesn't feel sustainable the

(01:39:48):
way that things are backed up in the minor leagues.
Where's this guy? Where's South Stewart gonna play when he
gets here? Now? Noelvi Marte, they want him to be
a center fielder along time, Like it just feels like
a jumbled mess at times that's not super organized.

Speaker 3 (01:40:05):
Right, And I would love if the kind of small
ball of contact approach works like that. That's fun. And
all the difference between now and you know, twenty thirty
years ago when it worked is pictures are too good.
There are too many good pictures. They are striking out,
you know, ten eleven guys per night, so you get
your back to back singles. You have a runner on

(01:40:27):
first and third, well, it could be two strikeouts in
a flyout and you're out of the inning and it's there.

Speaker 2 (01:40:32):
You can run into a double pun right right.

Speaker 3 (01:40:36):
The pictures are just too good these days. Their stuff
is disgusting, and that's why more players rely on the
home runs. It's not because they all just swing for
the fence for all of them, but it's already hard
enough to hit it. If you're gonna hit it, you
might as well hit it far. And the Reds are
not subscribing to that, and it's it's frustrating. And when

(01:40:57):
you have a pitching staff of this good to see
the the rest of the team just not quite put
it all together and kind of just hover around being
mediocre all years frustrating as well.

Speaker 2 (01:41:08):
Clay looking at the future of this pitching staff. How
important is now to the end of the season. We've
talked about this in the past. Going into this year,
Brady Singer was the only guy that had thrown over
one hundred and sixty innings in the starting rotation in

(01:41:29):
the organization. Even if they're still in this three to
five games out, is it important for them to stay
in contact so that Green and Lodolo and Abbott and
whatever else you've got get to experience a little bit
of this pressure in September, get to pitch deep into
a season. Because I think right now we're seeing a

(01:41:51):
group of guys that have never done this before, and
they look a little bit more shaky than they have
in the past.

Speaker 3 (01:41:59):
Yeah, and I do believe in that, you know, experience
and pressure and all of the things that come with
playing high leverage baseball. I believe in that. So if
the Reds are in position to continue to kind of
be within striking distance of the playoff spot, I think
it's important. If they start to drift further and further away,
I wouldn't mind certain, you know, maybe having the pitcher

(01:42:22):
pull them after four innings or you know whatever. Maybe
I don't know, they have a better strategy and understanding
of any limits and whatnot. And maybe there's guys working
back from injury that they can get some big league
experience too as well. But as long as they're competitive,
I want these guys out there trying to win every
single night. My question is, or I guess you know,

(01:42:44):
my worry is how much longer are they going to
be able to stay competitive?

Speaker 2 (01:42:48):
Well, they have the That was my frustration at the
trade deadline. It's not like the organization just discovered a
week or two ago that they had the toughest remaining
schedule in baseball. Like everybody knew that, and you would
think that would spur being more aggressive at the trade deadline.
Now the moves Nick Krawl made have helped, but it

(01:43:10):
didn't feel like it was enough then and it certainly
doesn't feel like it's enough now. Your dog is very
happy to see you, Clay.

Speaker 3 (01:43:18):
I was hoping you couldn't hear that she's not a barker.
I don't know what's going on out there, but yeah,
And like you said, the pick or the moves that
they did, they have been good moves, but they weren't
massive impact level moves, you know players who are there
every single day, middle of the lineup. I love the
Andrew Hart pickup Zach Lettell. I think that they improved

(01:43:42):
as a team, but there just should have been more.
We can't have Matt McClain still getting this level about
that and the amount of kind of oh yeah, this
player's average to slightly above average. The whole team is
made up of mostly those players. I wanted a little
bit more aggressive, more of an impact type movement. They

(01:44:03):
just didn't make it.

Speaker 2 (01:44:04):
Would you consider yourself an analytics guy? Yes? Okay, good?
I need to ask you this. Do you think we
have gone too far in one direction? On right handers
can only hit left handed pitching and left handers can
only go to bad against right handed pitching, Like, have

(01:44:24):
we gone too far the other way on that specific
point of analytics or is this something that the numbers
just say they're doing the right thing and sometimes it
doesn't work out.

Speaker 3 (01:44:37):
You won't like the answer, but it's probably going to
be a more case by case Like I think that
there are players who are left handed who should get
more at bats against left handed pitchers in hopes of improving,
like if they have that level of talent. I don't
think like Will Benson's ever going to hit lefties better.
He's got plenty of opportunities he you know, the movement

(01:44:59):
from varieties he struggles with, it's going to be worse
for lufties. Like there's certain players that it makes sense
and certain players I would like to see more of
the issue with this, And we saw it with Stuart
Fairchild last year or the year before. Everyone said, well,
he's playing in a position you know that he shouldn't
have to play in against righties. If you were the

(01:45:20):
fourth outfielder, you were going to see a lot of
varieties regardless of your splits. And the first injury that
happens the first time. You don't get to be in
your perfect scenario, you still have to perform to some level,
kind of like what we saw with Austin Hayes, Like
he was at least acceptable at times against righties and
crushed lufties. Like that's the type of platoon player you want,

(01:45:42):
not unhittable against one and hits really well against the other.
You need a little bit of some in between. So
I'm kind of understanding where you're going with this, and
I think I agree to an extent is I'd like
to see a little bit more players playing both ways.

Speaker 2 (01:45:58):
But like, do we have to see Antiago Espinal in
right field last night because there's a lefty on the
mount that?

Speaker 3 (01:46:05):
Yeah, that's absurd to me.

Speaker 2 (01:46:08):
That's kind of where I was going, Like.

Speaker 3 (01:46:09):
I Santiago Espinal does not impact the game at any
considerable level. To play him out of position in order
to get.

Speaker 2 (01:46:17):
His bat in the lineup against Clayton Kershall, the bullpen
just gonna have to Grin and Barrett through this. And
obviously some young guys weren't maybe ready for the spotlight
this year that they haven't been bad, but they're also
in a position now where they relied on two guys

(01:46:41):
in a lot of close games, and now those two
guys they're trying to recharge their arms in late August,
which is, you know, not conducive to winning close games
against good teams. Like how hard do they have to
look at the bullpen going into next season from you know,
a month out? I guess yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:47:03):
I think every year you just need to add to
the bullton. I don't care if it's kind of players
who bounce around or proven like, I don't care. Just
get as many as you can. It's a pretty random group.
Usually plenty of players pop up out of nowhere and
perform well, like add to the bullton. I'd love to
see them get another established arm. And like you said,

(01:47:25):
you know, they had a few guys that were really
good this year, but Tito at times puts them in
three straight games in July and you're kind of thinking,
I don't know if this play is going to work
out later on in the year, and too too, you know,
kind of defend Tita, like those are games that they
needed to win. He went with his guys, but.

Speaker 2 (01:47:48):
Risky, like they they were out of the playoffs, trying
to play themselves back in you have to pitch the
guys to give you the best chance as much as
you can. But boy, it's uh, it looks like a
rough bunch right now.

Speaker 3 (01:48:02):
Yeah, yeah, not exactly pretty Clay.

Speaker 2 (01:48:05):
Where can they find you?

Speaker 8 (01:48:08):
All right?

Speaker 3 (01:48:08):
Just baseball dot Com and on x Twitter whatever it's called.
Clay Underscore snow sn O.

Speaker 2 (01:48:15):
Are you a day last soul guy? Have I asked
you this before?

Speaker 4 (01:48:18):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (01:48:18):
I love yeah, three Feet Iron Rising?

Speaker 2 (01:48:21):
Yeah, I mean, but I like the new stuff Dead
Artificial Intelligence, AOI bionics, like it's deeper than just the classics.

Speaker 3 (01:48:30):
Yeah, I mean, first three four albums. Stakes is high.
It was kind of the last one that I really
got into.

Speaker 2 (01:48:37):
We need to get you on some of the newer
the you know, the early two thousand stuff too, because
that stuff was really good as well.

Speaker 3 (01:48:43):
Yeah, I don't know, man, I love the early nineties
stuff me too.

Speaker 2 (01:48:48):
I'm an early nineties guy.

Speaker 3 (01:48:50):
Yeah, early nineties hip hop. Man, give me that over
the two thousands.

Speaker 2 (01:48:55):
Clay Snowden is dead. Appreciate your brother talk soon.

Speaker 3 (01:49:01):
I have a good one.

Speaker 2 (01:49:02):
All right. There you go, Clay Snowden, just baseball talking
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Speaker 2 (01:50:01):
I mean, I will just sit here and listen to
this one.

Speaker 13 (01:50:05):
I will fait it down. I don't know if it's.

Speaker 2 (01:50:10):
Best tribe song, Taren, you probably need to fade it
down before the words start. Yes, I know, yeah, right
right there, that's where you should be out. What what what?
What's your what's your pick? Is best tribe song? I

(01:50:33):
think it's electric relaxation, maybe that scenario, but that's not
like that's leaders of the news. That's not tribe right, Like.

Speaker 6 (01:50:40):
I'm like, I'm like electric because I just it hits
me right in the fields.

Speaker 2 (01:50:44):
It's got to be the Waynes brothers like. It's just
like the video is perfect. It's just them sitting at
like a New York City diner. It's it's so good.
It's so and the vice verse, the fifth verse is incredible.
And you know, I'm a fife like Youugib's good, But
I'm a fife guy who may or may not have

(01:51:05):
cried for three days when five time is what it is? Taren,
did you hear the nil deal for Florida, Georgia and
Ohio State football players? No, Chipotle is giving every scholarship
and walk on student athlete at Florida, Georgia and Ohio
State a customized card, granting them free Chipotle for the

(01:51:28):
duration of their respective athletics seasons.

Speaker 13 (01:51:34):
Chi Bolt's costing themselves a lot of money.

Speaker 2 (01:51:36):
If you could pick a fat will stick it to
fast food like you know chain places. If you could
pick like a fast casual, a fast chain place to
get free food for these seasons, usually go with four
or five months. Yeah, four or five months. Where would
you rock? Where would be your spot?

Speaker 6 (01:52:02):
That's difficult, very because you don't we consider uh, five
guys fast food.

Speaker 2 (01:52:09):
Uh, I think you could consider it fast casual. But boy,
how many times a week are you eating five guys?
For real? I love burgers. I just don't know if
I could do a burger like I'm a like a
once every ten days, two weeks guy on burger like
I gotta I get my fill of him, and then
I put him in the back of the the rolodex

(01:52:32):
for a week and I gotta wait till they flip
back around. I don't know I could do burgers like
three four days in a row.

Speaker 13 (01:52:39):
Hopefully these kids aren't doing Chipotle three four days in
a row.

Speaker 2 (01:52:42):
Oh, they do, like for real, Like I swear Taran,
if Kelsey could live on Chick fil a Canes and Chipotle,
that's all she would eat. Ever Ever, Ever, I've seen
her eat Chipotle three four days in a row. They
love it, I don't. I think.

Speaker 6 (01:53:03):
Man, Well, these are athletes too, so I'm pretty sure
that but they can't they can't fit good.

Speaker 2 (01:53:09):
Oh yeah, they get good food.

Speaker 3 (01:53:10):
Like.

Speaker 2 (01:53:10):
They're not gonna kill Chipotle here because they're they're nutritionists
for the school is not gonna let them. But you know,
they'll get some Chipotle. I think I might go Jersey
Mikes bro not a bad choice. They got some you know,
you can get the cheese steaks, you can get the
meatball sub, the chicken cheese steak, and then you get

(01:53:31):
all the options on like the cold sandwiches. I love
a sandwich, a little bit of variety. I think I might.
I think I might be tempted to go Jersey Mikes here.
I don't know. I just saw that and I was like, huh,
wonder where uh, I wonder wonder where the spot was?
Oh goodness, great, Like are you I don't think they're

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gonna allow that much heavy drinking in season to where
you're gonna go to wopfle House two o'clock in the morning.
You go to waffle House for breakfast every day at
like nine am.

Speaker 13 (01:54:05):
Yep, before after practice.

Speaker 2 (01:54:08):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You get a lift in and
then and then go carb up with some cheesy grits
and and loaded hash browns. I mean, that's that's a
that's a bold move right there. It's a bold move. Yeah.
I mean, I'm not gonna do McDonald's Wendy's, Like, I'm
not gonna maybe, I guess Chick fil A would be okay,

(01:54:29):
you can't get breakfast? Yeah, my kid ruined me on
Chick fil A a while ago. I don't know.

Speaker 13 (01:54:37):
I mean I wish BUCkies. None under that fast food.

Speaker 2 (01:54:41):
Now give me a BUCkies.

Speaker 10 (01:54:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:54:42):
I'll use that BUCkies card all day, day day. Oh boy.
All right, Uh that's basically it for me. We've got
a segment left. It's Tony and mo uh talking about
the Bengals. So I'm gonna get out of here. I'll
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Speaker 1 (01:55:41):
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Speaker 16 (01:55:53):
You know, Tony, these are season preview reports, So maybe
it makes sense to start previewing the season by looking
at some opponents. Let's begin with Week one Bengals in
Cleveland to take on the Browns. We're gonna watch Joe
Flacco play quarterback in twenty twenty five, which is not
something I would have had on my Bengo card, maybe
even last year. I think with the Bengals, given their

(01:56:16):
recent history, it feels like any Week one opponent is dangerous.
What sits in the back of our head is what
happened against the Patriots last year at home. Should we
fear something similar for the Bengals this go around against
the Browns?

Speaker 17 (01:56:28):
Well, I think there are two paths that could give
the Bengals fits this year, and the Browns, while not
an explosive offensive team, they have both of them.

Speaker 2 (01:56:36):
One is the ability to run the ball.

Speaker 17 (01:56:38):
Doesn't feel like regardless of who the running back is
in Cleveland, they have had success running the ball in
recent years. Now with Nick Chubb being gone and what
that backfield now looks like, they're not going to have
quinch On Jutkins. But still, if you're playing the Bengals,
the idea is, can we run the ball and can
we shrink the game and limit the possessions of the
Bengals offense. That's what the Browns, I would assume, are

(01:57:00):
going to try to do. Set up some play action
passes with Joe Flacco. I've not seen any resistance from
the Bengals front as it relates to stopping the run
yet this year, so that's going to be a major
question mark. And while Trey Henderson's gonna help, he's not
been great against the run. The second part about this
teams that can get home by rushing for and dropping
seven Miles Garrett, if you follow along with anything going

(01:57:21):
on in Cleveland right now, they love what they've seen
out of Mason Graham this camp. There are still questions
on this Bengals offensive line. Miles Garrett reeks havoc on
everyone in the NFL game one super charged up. It's
not like it's late in the season where the game's
a throwaway. I'm worried about the rush of Cleveland and
being able to get home with four, and I'm worried

(01:57:41):
about the running game of Cleveland.

Speaker 16 (01:57:43):
Is there any scenario, let's talk about the season as
a whole. Is there any scenario where the Browns don't
finish in last place in the AFC North.

Speaker 2 (01:57:51):
I don't see it.

Speaker 17 (01:57:52):
I mean, borring a catastrophic injury to someone in the
AFC North. I don't see how they can finish above
the Bengals. I don't see how they can finish above
the Steelers or the Baltimore Ravens.

Speaker 2 (01:58:03):
They just they don't have enough on offense.

Speaker 17 (01:58:05):
And again, the rush defense of the Bengals is what
concerns me. But if you get I mean on the
other side of it, if you can start fast offensively
and you go up a couple scores, you make them
one dimensional, then I think you're gonna have a field
day in Cleveland. But it's not just the Browns. Every
team that the Bengals face this year is gonna try
to run the ball, to work the clock and limit possessions.

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And every team is gonna try to drop seven or
eight and get home with.

Speaker 2 (01:58:29):
Three or four. All Right, Thanks fellas, that's gonna do it.
Thanks to Richard Skinner, Thanks to Clay Snowden. Thanks to
you for your participation. Bearcat season starts tomorrow. I'll be
in on SINCY three to sixty Moagger Live from Kansas
City after that. Thanks by Daring. Don't see you so
money load management season is over. It's sad. We'll see

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you next time. This is the Mowagger Show. I'm not Mowagger.
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