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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Well, this is Football in the NATI, brought to you
by bell Terra Casino and Belterra Park on ESPN fifteen thirty,
the official home of the Cincinnati Bengals.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
For years now. Once or twice during the college football season,
I'm always so stoked to get a chance to talk
to Danny Canell, who joins us courtesy of bed online,
where you can go to for updated college football, Playoff,
Heisman and College Football Week three lines, and always so
much fun to talk to. I'm sure he's getting ready
(00:32):
to be locked in for Saturday Cincinnati versus Northwestern State game.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
Danny, what's going on? What's up? Moo? How are we doing?
It is becoming a little bit of an annual tradition
getting to catch up with you. I have to cool
a quick brush up on my Northwestern State film study
before we get to that one. But it's great to
be on man, Always good, always fun, Collin.
Speaker 4 (00:51):
I'm old.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
I'm old enough to have and I've told you this.
Driven to New Jersey to watch you and the Giants
beat the Bengals when I was in college, and so
I remember what it was like to open up the
every Monday or Tuesday and obsess over the AP Top
twenty five College Football poll.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
I feel like.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
We're doing that now in twenty twenty five, and I'm
not sure why should we be.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
I love it, No, we should not. And it's been
a very very hot topic in the college football world,
as you are well aware, and it's been something that
has driven me crazy for the last decade since I've
been involved in this sport. And I think it's good
that a lot of this is starting to come to
light because I think historically, maybe you know, thirty forty
years you had an AP which was a representation of
(01:33):
a national perspective on the sport of college football, and
you needed people out in Wyoming who were watching the
games that you couldn't see on national television. Well that's
not the case anymore, because everybody's on national television, and
yet some of those local beat writers are not watching
the whole landscape, and so they're actually just filling in
(01:56):
based on brands, or they're not even watching every single game.
And I think it is a good reminder of people
that the AP Top twenty five should be taken with
a grain of salt. But what drives me nuts is
that it does create perception and narratives that do benefit
some programs and some conferences. I mean, all I heard
this week was there were eleven SEC teams in the
(02:17):
top twenty five, and that was one of the reasons
I was trying to spearhead this movement by saying a
lot of those teams should have no business being in
the top twenty five if you do the pull of
the way it's supposed to be done, which is really
on resumes and what teams have earned other But too
many people look at the preseason where they had the
team in the preseason, and they don't make enough adjustments.
I think early it should be incredibly volatile, like teams
(02:39):
should bump up and down and all around based on
more information at your fingertips. So it's been something that's
kind of driven me nuts. I think it's good that
people are talking about it, and I do think some
of the pressure that has been put on the polsters
themselves will hopefully hold them accountable and they'll start paying
more attention to the national landscape.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
Well, you know here, you know, Cincinnati being in the
Big twelve. They did away with the preseason poll. Now
I like the polls because you know, they're they're fun,
they're fun for what we do. But at the same time,
I don't know, in this era of college football in July,
how you vote which team is the best in the conference,
much less in the entire country. Should we Should we
at least say, look, the AP Top twenty five still
(03:18):
has a purpose, but maybe let's wait until a few
weeks of football have been played.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
Yes, and I actually you know what I would love,
But the TV networks will never do this because the
TV networks love it more than anybody because it helps
drive interest. I mean, how many times even when we'll
discuss games, we'll say, hey, there's a battle of Top
twenty five teams squaring off this you know, this week.
But it really is just something that shouldn't be acknowledged
until we at least get to October at minimum. I
(03:44):
would actually love it until the the midpoint of the season,
or if we just use the College Football Selection Committees
rankings which come out in November, if that's when we
started to reference team and their rankings ahead of them,
Because again, it kind of goes back when we talk
about resumes and strength of schedule. If you're an SEC
team and you're playing a game this weekend and you're
playing a team with that magical ranking in front of
(04:06):
your name. If you lose the game, it doesn't hurt
you as much because, oh, you lost to a top
twenty five team, And if you win the game, it's, oh,
what a huge boost that is, so you rise even more,
which makes it more challenging for teams outside the top
twenty five to rise up through the rankings. USF is
a great example. I think USF has the best resume
of anybody in the entire country. They have two of
(04:28):
the best wins out there. They smoked Boise State thirty
four to seven, and then they went into Gainesville and
beat the Gators at the Swamp, and they're struggling to
make the move up. I mean, I think, get minimum,
they should be top five, but it just takes them
a long time to do it because people didn't think
they were going to be good this offseason and they
have to go out there and prove everybody wrong again.
Where if USF had a Buckeye logo or a Florida
(04:51):
State logo, or you know, pick your blue blood from
college football, they absolutely would be in the top five.
So I think it's an issue, and it's something we've
got to try to I think the solution would be
just waiting to even put those numbers on the tv
TV graphics until we got to November.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
So here in Big twelve country, so to speak, Danny,
how much is that league hurt by what you just
talked about.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
I think it is. I think it's hurt and I
think that was you know, Brett Yormark made that decision,
as you mentioned, to not rank them. I do love
Kenny Dillingham's mindset because they were picked to finish last
and he said, I don't care about pre season rankings,
and I think that's the mindset you have to take
as a coach to kind of just avoid the noise.
But I think when you're talking about getting multiple bids
(05:34):
into the postseason, because I think the Big Twelve unfortunately
is probably just a one bid league because of the
perception of it and because they don't have enough of
those ranked teams, and at the end of the season,
their best team might be ten and two, but they
might have two ten and two scre teams square enough,
and they might be just as good from teams from
the Big Ten or the SEC. But because they're not
high enough in the rankings, it could find them being
(05:55):
on the outside looking in. So I do think it's
a perception problem that the Big twelve has, and they've
got to do better in the non conference. It was
a little bit of a rough weekend. Outside of Baylor
going to SMU and getting that weekend, there was a
lot of missed opportunities, and you know about one of them,
since Natty had a great opportunity against Nebraska came up
just short. But here's another thing that drives me nuts,
like that loss to me shouldn't be devastating. It was
(06:16):
by a touchdown. You know, it wasn't an embarrassing loss,
and yet we use those games as such an indictment
on an entire conference. It's just I don't like the
way a lot of it works out, especially with the
way we decide teams that get to play for the
College Football Playoff. It's this invitational as opposed to really
being merit based where you just you know, you win
your way in. You have to get the invite in.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
Danny Knella is with us courtesy of bet Online. Check
out betonline dot ag for updated College Football Playoff, Heisman
and College Football Week three lines, let's stay in this
part of the country. So you know, I was so
excited to watch Ohio State play Texas, all the hype
around arch Manning defending national jams, Julian saying, I kind
of felt like in the aftermath of the game, the
(06:59):
buck guys barely even played because all I heard about
was arch Manning.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
Yes, I would agree with you, but didn't you know
we were gonna get that. I mean, that was the
most predictable thing ever, was the massive overreaction to probably,
like I can't imagine, though, I don't like, since I've
covered this sport for about fifteen years, the amount of
hysteria we've seen around somebody who hasn't really played football.
I mean, Tim Tebow got a lot of coverage, but
(07:23):
most of it came after he won the Heisman Trophy.
Johnny Manzel got a ton of coverage, but it was
after he won a Heisman Trophy. I mean, the amount
of airtime that was spent on arch Manning was just
off the charts. It was unlike anything I've ever seen,
so I think it was very predictable. If he would
have pulled off the upset, people would have said he's
gonna win multiple Heismans and he's gonna be the number
(07:44):
one overall pick and blah blah blah. And then I
also know on the flip side, if he struggled, the
critics would be coming fast, like, oh, he's overrated, he's
just just because of his last name. I actually thought
you got what I expected out of arch Manning. I
think it's gonna be a little bit of a bumpy
ride for him because he hasn't played much football. I
think it takes time and repetition to get comfortable playing
(08:05):
at this level, and I think he will eventually. But yes,
you are right, and I will say this, I don't
think people talked enough about Ohio State. I don't think
people talked enough about the Ohio State defense, even more
specifically because Julian saying I thought they were able to protect,
which was a great thing. They didn't have to expose
them or put them out there too much in the
past game and needed a great job being that game manager,
(08:26):
which is exactly what you want from a young quarterback.
But the job Matt Patricia has done in the absence
of Jim Knowles going to Penn State, the way that
he's you know, utilizing his players. The way he's coming
up with schemes to confuse college quarterbacks like arch has
been nothing short of magnificent. So Ohio State very very
much in play to be a back to back national champion.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
I think, all right, one more here, really quick. I
got a bet online dot Agul. I could find the
usual suspects with pretty short odds to make the college
football Playoff or to even win the whole thing. If
I want some value, steer me in the right direction.
Speaker 3 (09:01):
Well, I mean I might be biased, mo, I mean
I might be biased. And Florida State. So I was
actually in Tallahassee last night. I was talking to the
QB Club and I talked to Gus Malzan and he
was telling me that they had eleven new starters on
the offensive side of the ball, which is astounding. But
I don't think you could change the perception of a
(09:22):
program the way you did with one game against Alabama.
And if you remember, in the aftermath of that game,
people were ready to fire Calin de Borr saying, oh,
Alabama must be so overrated. Alabama still has one of
the top rosters in the country. If you look at
any metric, it's a whether you use a blue chip ratio,
a national team composite, like any ranking you look at
(09:44):
as far as just how talented your roster is. Alabama
is still up there. And did anybody notice what they
did last week against Louisiana mon Roe. I know it's
lesser talent, but Ty Simpson looked comfortable, the defense looked dominant.
I think Alabama is still a really good football team,
and that from means that Florida State must be really
good too. And I think people are still struggling to
(10:04):
find like, all right, how could a two win team
be a playoff contender this quickly? It's today's landscape, man,
it really is. I mean, you can turn over an
entire roster almost, which is what Florida State has done.
I worry a little bit about depth as the season
goes along, But now, all of a sudden, with a
team that their win total was seven and a half
because of what they did against Alabama, I think I
(10:25):
look at every single game and I say, why can't
they win that game? They absolutely can beat anybody on
their schedule. As long as Thomas Castelano stays healthy, I
think they're a player in the college football playoffs.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
All right, your bias didn't show it all. They're sold.
That's my wager.
Speaker 3 (10:40):
That's right. And you asked for a longer shot. I
mean I think it's a pretty long shot. Pretty good.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
All right, Well, I'll let you get to work on
that Northwestern State tape. We always love having on rind.
Hopefully we can do it again during the season. Danny,
thanks so much.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
I appreciate you, know how, A good one.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
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Speaker 2 (00:12):
For years now. Once or twice during the college football season,
I'm always so stoked to get a chance to talk
to Danny Canell, who joins us courtesy of bed online,
where you can go to for updated college football, Playoff,
Heisman and College Football Week three lines, and always so
much fun to talk to. I'm sure he's getting ready
(00:32):
to be locked in for Saturday Cincinnati versus Northwestern State game.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
Danny, what's going on? What's up? Moo? How are we doing?
It is becoming a little bit of an annual tradition
getting to catch up with you. I have to cool
a quick brush up on my Northwestern State film study
before we get to that one. But it's great to
be on man, Always good, always fun, Collin.
Speaker 4 (00:51):
I'm old.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
I'm old enough to have and I've told you this.
Driven to New Jersey to watch you and the Giants
beat the Bengals when I was in college, and so
I remember what it was like to open up the
every Monday or Tuesday and obsess over the AP Top
twenty five College Football poll.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
I feel like.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
We're doing that now in twenty twenty five, and I'm
not sure why should we be.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
I love it, No, we should not. And it's been
a very very hot topic in the college football world,
as you are well aware, and it's been something that
has driven me crazy for the last decade since I've
been involved in this sport. And I think it's good
that a lot of this is starting to come to
light because I think historically, maybe you know, thirty forty
years you had an AP which was a representation of
(01:33):
a national perspective on the sport of college football, and
you needed people out in Wyoming who were watching the
games that you couldn't see on national television. Well that's
not the case anymore, because everybody's on national television, and
yet some of those local beat writers are not watching
the whole landscape, and so they're actually just filling in
(01:56):
based on brands, or they're not even watching every single game.
And I think it is a good reminder of people
that the AP Top twenty five should be taken with
a grain of salt. But what drives me nuts is
that it does create perception and narratives that do benefit
some programs and some conferences. I mean, all I heard
this week was there were eleven SEC teams in the
(02:17):
top twenty five, and that was one of the reasons
I was trying to spearhead this movement by saying a
lot of those teams should have no business being in
the top twenty five if you do the pull of
the way it's supposed to be done, which is really
on resumes and what teams have earned other But too
many people look at the preseason where they had the
team in the preseason, and they don't make enough adjustments.
I think early it should be incredibly volatile, like teams
(02:39):
should bump up and down and all around based on
more information at your fingertips. So it's been something that's
kind of driven me nuts. I think it's good that
people are talking about it, and I do think some
of the pressure that has been put on the polsters
themselves will hopefully hold them accountable and they'll start paying
more attention to the national landscape.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
Well, you know here, you know, Cincinnati being in the
Big twelve. They did away with the preseason poll. Now
I like the polls because you know, they're they're fun,
they're fun for what we do. But at the same time,
I don't know, in this era of college football in July,
how you vote which team is the best in the conference,
much less in the entire country. Should we Should we
at least say, look, the AP Top twenty five still
(03:18):
has a purpose, but maybe let's wait until a few
weeks of football have been played.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
Yes, and I actually you know what I would love,
But the TV networks will never do this because the
TV networks love it more than anybody because it helps
drive interest. I mean, how many times even when we'll
discuss games, we'll say, hey, there's a battle of Top
twenty five teams squaring off this you know, this week.
But it really is just something that shouldn't be acknowledged
until we at least get to October at minimum. I
(03:44):
would actually love it until the the midpoint of the season,
or if we just use the College Football Selection Committees
rankings which come out in November, if that's when we
started to reference team and their rankings ahead of them,
Because again, it kind of goes back when we talk
about resumes and strength of schedule. If you're an SEC
team and you're playing a game this weekend and you're
playing a team with that magical ranking in front of
(04:06):
your name. If you lose the game, it doesn't hurt
you as much because, oh, you lost to a top
twenty five team, And if you win the game, it's, oh,
what a huge boost that is, so you rise even more,
which makes it more challenging for teams outside the top
twenty five to rise up through the rankings. USF is
a great example. I think USF has the best resume
of anybody in the entire country. They have two of
(04:28):
the best wins out there. They smoked Boise State thirty
four to seven, and then they went into Gainesville and
beat the Gators at the Swamp, and they're struggling to
make the move up. I mean, I think, get minimum,
they should be top five, but it just takes them
a long time to do it because people didn't think
they were going to be good this offseason and they
have to go out there and prove everybody wrong again.
Where if USF had a Buckeye logo or a Florida
(04:51):
State logo, or you know, pick your blue blood from
college football, they absolutely would be in the top five.
So I think it's an issue, and it's something we've
got to try to I think the solution would be
just waiting to even put those numbers on the tv
TV graphics until we got to November.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
So here in Big twelve country, so to speak, Danny,
how much is that league hurt by what you just
talked about.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
I think it is. I think it's hurt and I
think that was you know, Brett Yormark made that decision,
as you mentioned, to not rank them. I do love
Kenny Dillingham's mindset because they were picked to finish last
and he said, I don't care about pre season rankings,
and I think that's the mindset you have to take
as a coach to kind of just avoid the noise.
But I think when you're talking about getting multiple bids
(05:34):
into the postseason, because I think the Big Twelve unfortunately
is probably just a one bid league because of the
perception of it and because they don't have enough of
those ranked teams, and at the end of the season,
their best team might be ten and two, but they
might have two ten and two scre teams square enough,
and they might be just as good from teams from
the Big Ten or the SEC. But because they're not
high enough in the rankings, it could find them being
(05:55):
on the outside looking in. So I do think it's
a perception problem that the Big twelve has, and they've
got to do better in the non conference. It was
a little bit of a rough weekend. Outside of Baylor
going to SMU and getting that weekend, there was a
lot of missed opportunities, and you know about one of them,
since Natty had a great opportunity against Nebraska came up
just short. But here's another thing that drives me nuts,
like that loss to me shouldn't be devastating. It was
(06:16):
by a touchdown. You know, it wasn't an embarrassing loss,
and yet we use those games as such an indictment
on an entire conference. It's just I don't like the
way a lot of it works out, especially with the
way we decide teams that get to play for the
College Football Playoff. It's this invitational as opposed to really
being merit based where you just you know, you win
your way in. You have to get the invite in.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
Danny Knella is with us courtesy of bet Online. Check
out betonline dot ag for updated College Football Playoff, Heisman
and College Football Week three lines, let's stay in this
part of the country. So you know, I was so
excited to watch Ohio State play Texas, all the hype
around arch Manning defending national jams, Julian saying, I kind
of felt like in the aftermath of the game, the
(06:59):
buck guys barely even played because all I heard about
was arch Manning.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
Yes, I would agree with you, but didn't you know
we were gonna get that. I mean, that was the
most predictable thing ever, was the massive overreaction to probably,
like I can't imagine, though, I don't like, since I've
covered this sport for about fifteen years, the amount of
hysteria we've seen around somebody who hasn't really played football.
I mean, Tim Tebow got a lot of coverage, but
(07:23):
most of it came after he won the Heisman Trophy.
Johnny Manzel got a ton of coverage, but it was
after he won a Heisman Trophy. I mean, the amount
of airtime that was spent on arch Manning was just
off the charts. It was unlike anything I've ever seen,
so I think it was very predictable. If he would
have pulled off the upset, people would have said he's
gonna win multiple Heismans and he's gonna be the number
(07:44):
one overall pick and blah blah blah. And then I
also know on the flip side, if he struggled, the
critics would be coming fast, like, oh, he's overrated, he's
just just because of his last name. I actually thought
you got what I expected out of arch Manning. I
think it's gonna be a little bit of a bumpy
ride for him because he hasn't played much football. I
think it takes time and repetition to get comfortable playing
(08:05):
at this level, and I think he will eventually. But yes,
you are right, and I will say this, I don't
think people talked enough about Ohio State. I don't think
people talked enough about the Ohio State defense, even more
specifically because Julian saying I thought they were able to protect,
which was a great thing. They didn't have to expose
them or put them out there too much in the
past game and needed a great job being that game manager,
(08:26):
which is exactly what you want from a young quarterback.
But the job Matt Patricia has done in the absence
of Jim Knowles going to Penn State, the way that
he's you know, utilizing his players. The way he's coming
up with schemes to confuse college quarterbacks like arch has
been nothing short of magnificent. So Ohio State very very
much in play to be a back to back national champion.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
I think, all right, one more here, really quick. I
got a bet online dot Agul. I could find the
usual suspects with pretty short odds to make the college
football Playoff or to even win the whole thing. If
I want some value, steer me in the right direction.
Speaker 3 (09:01):
Well, I mean I might be biased, mo, I mean
I might be biased. And Florida State. So I was
actually in Tallahassee last night. I was talking to the
QB Club and I talked to Gus Malzan and he
was telling me that they had eleven new starters on
the offensive side of the ball, which is astounding. But
I don't think you could change the perception of a
(09:22):
program the way you did with one game against Alabama.
And if you remember, in the aftermath of that game,
people were ready to fire Calin de Borr saying, oh,
Alabama must be so overrated. Alabama still has one of
the top rosters in the country. If you look at
any metric, it's a whether you use a blue chip ratio,
a national team composite, like any ranking you look at
(09:44):
as far as just how talented your roster is. Alabama
is still up there. And did anybody notice what they
did last week against Louisiana mon Roe. I know it's
lesser talent, but Ty Simpson looked comfortable, the defense looked dominant.
I think Alabama is still a really good football team,
and that from means that Florida State must be really
good too. And I think people are still struggling to
(10:04):
find like, all right, how could a two win team
be a playoff contender this quickly? It's today's landscape, man,
it really is. I mean, you can turn over an
entire roster almost, which is what Florida State has done.
I worry a little bit about depth as the season
goes along, But now, all of a sudden, with a
team that their win total was seven and a half
because of what they did against Alabama, I think I
(10:25):
look at every single game and I say, why can't
they win that game? They absolutely can beat anybody on
their schedule. As long as Thomas Castelano stays healthy, I
think they're a player in the college football playoffs.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
All right, your bias didn't show it all. They're sold.
That's my wager.
Speaker 3 (10:40):
That's right. And you asked for a longer shot. I
mean I think it's a pretty long shot. Pretty good.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
All right, Well, I'll let you get to work on
that Northwestern State tape. We always love having on rind.
Hopefully we can do it again during the season. Danny,
thanks so much.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
I appreciate you, know how, A good one.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
That's our guy, Danny Canal thanks to a bed online.
Go to bed online dot ag for updated college football, Playoff,
Heisman and college football Week three lines twenty nine. From
five o'clock, We're gonna talk money and fantasy football and
sports with our friend Amy Wagner, who is standing just
(11:17):
outside the door making faces through the window. On ESPN
fifteen thirty, Cincinnati Sports Station.
Speaker 5 (11:22):
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Speaker 4 (11:39):
From the UC Health Traffic Center. Addiction is a treatable
medical disorder that affects both brain and behavior. You see
health addiction services can help. Call five one, three, five eight,
five nine seven two southbound seventy five. It's an accident
on the right shoulder between Glendale Milford Road and Shepherd
Laney two to three minute the lake. You through there
(12:01):
southbound State Route forty eight before seventy one. Police are
on the scene of an accident, this one blocking off
the right lane. I met Exelic with traffic.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
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