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September 19, 2024 16 mins
Sean Kilpatick is one of six former UC athletes being inducted Friday night into the James P Kelly UC Athletics Hall of Fame.  The school's second all-time leading scorer in men's basketball joined us on ESPN1530.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The James P. Kelly Athletics at the University of Cincinnati.
Tomorrow night gets six new members, among them the great
Sean Kilpatrick, who's with us now. Describe for me the
moment you found out you're gonna be a UC Hall
of Famer.

Speaker 2 (00:14):
Well, I was.

Speaker 3 (00:15):
It's crazy because I was just training, like practicing and
training with children and then I got the call. And
then as soon as I got the call, it just
broke down. I just started crying, like it was. It
was one of the I mean, I guess, but especially
for that day, it was. It was so uplift and
even hear that and then I mean, just to see
a random number calling my phone, I was like, hello,

(00:38):
who is it? And then they told me everything and
it was just like wow, like it was amazing.

Speaker 2 (00:42):
Man.

Speaker 1 (00:43):
So do the kids know, I mean, like when you're
when you're working with kids, do they know how good
you were?

Speaker 3 (00:51):
It's funny because I mean, they end up we end
up working with each other, and then like the very
next time they then they didn't come to the workout.
It's like, wow, we was just watching you on either
YouTube or Instagram and it's like.

Speaker 2 (01:05):
Man, like we didn't know it was like this, so
I always let them know.

Speaker 3 (01:10):
I mean, even though I stopped playing the game and
I'm teaching you guys, I could still I could still
do it.

Speaker 2 (01:16):
Yeah, sure, yeah, I can still do it.

Speaker 1 (01:20):
Yeah, well, it's really cool. I don't know, I don't
know how much time you've had to reflect. And look,
it's been a while. It's been ten years since you left.
You see, we've talked about your career at the University
of Cincinnati, and maybe this weekend, whether it's you know,
you with Dan Horde tonight or you know, making your
speech tomorrow at the induction ceremony, I'm sure you've had
time to reflect. What sort of things do you think

(01:41):
about when you think of your career at you See?

Speaker 2 (01:45):
It's crazy.

Speaker 3 (01:46):
I mean I haven't really It's even more crazy that
I haven't even really wrote my speech all the way
down yet, because, like you said, it's been ten years
of me just trying to recall and rethink everything. It's
you know what I mean when I think about this city.
I mean, especially when I came in to to Cincinnati

(02:08):
the other day and I was walking through the airport
and I was on the phone with Justin Jackson, and
I said, to myself. I mean, he also said, too, yo,
you remember you used to walk through these air like
through the airport just to get to school and going
through the process and emotions of basically being a student at.

Speaker 2 (02:25):
U SEE and also an athlete.

Speaker 3 (02:28):
So when I was actually walking through it, I was like, man, like,
I can't even recall what happened in the last ten
years that I can really actually remember, except for I
mean obviously our games and the tough moments and even
with coach and everything.

Speaker 2 (02:44):
But when you look at the other side of it,
it's like.

Speaker 3 (02:48):
Just being a regular student or a regular player walking
through it. Like I said, the airport, it's like it
brings back memories that I think I can.

Speaker 2 (02:58):
Never really ever forget.

Speaker 3 (02:59):
I mean, it's like Cincinnati. It truly it's grown me
and groomed me to be a man, and they taught
me how to basically be like something totally different than
what I was.

Speaker 2 (03:11):
Actually growing up to be.

Speaker 3 (03:13):
And I mean, once, like I said, once you get
here and once everything is basically set in stone, like
you're here, you're playing, and you gotta get comfortable with everything,
I mean everything, it became.

Speaker 2 (03:27):
So much more easier.

Speaker 3 (03:28):
I mean, the people they gravitated to me, towards me
in a crazy way. I mean it was they, It
was pretty much everyone here is pretty much like family.

Speaker 2 (03:38):
So once, like I.

Speaker 3 (03:39):
Said, I mean, it's it's amazing that you can really
honestly call back and go back ten years. But it's
like I said, it's so hard to really go back
and recall every moment.

Speaker 1 (03:49):
Yeah, it's interesting. Whenever I talk with athletes about their time,
whether it be playing professionally or at a school, they
don't they don't talk so much about games, you know,
they don't talk some talk about moments. They talk about
the stuff that you just referenced, right, the experience, maybe
something as silly as walking through an airport, or or
the relationships that you forge with your teammates that last forever,

(04:10):
which is really cool. I've got to think there's got
to be for you. You know, you had a great
individual career, and we could talk about what you did statistically.
But you get to UC and the basketball program is
being rebuilt, but it's not where it needs to be.
By the time you leave, it's back, right, and and
there are a lot of people that had something to
do with that. A lot of your teammates a lot

(04:31):
of guys who came before you, obviously Mick Cronin and
the coaching staff. But when you look back, I would
imagine there has to be some degree of pride that, yeah,
you know what, that program wasn't where it needed to be,
and by the time I left it was.

Speaker 2 (04:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (04:46):
I mean, it's crazy because when I first got there,
and I was actually talking with coach Miller about this
yesterday at dinner, and we spoke about like like the
process of basically how we went for me, like when
I first got a notice or when I first basically
heard that somebody was in Boston. When I was playing

(05:10):
at my prep school, I know the name Prep and Fitchburg,
Mass we had a game up in Boston and they
told me that somebody was here from Cincinnati to see me.
So when I went there and I basically got interviewed, it.

Speaker 2 (05:22):
Was it was Dan.

Speaker 3 (05:23):
It was Dan, and they were basically talking like you
just said about how the program.

Speaker 2 (05:29):
Needs to basically get reshaped and.

Speaker 3 (05:31):
Rebuilt, like they're going through a process. So when I
got here a verb, I mean, when I committed here,
and when I got here, an coach he told me
basically like yo, we have a plan to red shirt too.
I was like, what, like, unhurt like I because I
just came from prep school, So I'm like, no way,
I'm not doing like at all. It was to the

(05:53):
point where I was really honestly about to just call
my mom and tell her to send me home. But
she was like, now you got to really pay attention
to what coach is saying, and they obviously know that
this is good for you and it can also help
the program. So I never looked at it, especially when
I read shirted it like oh, I might be getting

(06:14):
saved for later or anything like that. I was so
young that I wanted to just play right then and there,
and I didn't understand what like was either what was happening,
and so like the season and everything started.

Speaker 2 (06:27):
Going on, and then when it was my time to play,
that's what happened.

Speaker 3 (06:31):
I played as hard as I could every night and
just made sure that you know what I mean, if
I'm going to make a decision like this or I
did make a decision in terms of red shirting, every
time I get out there, that has to be in
the back of my mind. I read shirted, and that's
an extra it's an extra.

Speaker 2 (06:48):
Motivation, especially for me.

Speaker 3 (06:50):
Anything that I can use to my motivation as an advantage,
that's what I did, especially at UC So it was amazing, man.
I mean it's I still get sales every time.

Speaker 2 (07:01):
I even think about basically being here.

Speaker 1 (07:04):
You know, you you talked about your experience as a
Red Shirt and even when you got on the floor
and I'm thinking of what it's like now. There are
a lot of guys in your situation which just hit
the portal, wouldn't have waited it out, wouldn't have waited
that year. And that's not a criticism, it's just it's
it's a reflection of how different things are. And there
are times where I'll hear a kid, well he's gonna bounce,
and I'll go, God, you know what. There was a

(07:25):
kid named Sean Kilpatrick at you See that waited it out,
put the work in, ended up being all American. So
it can work. It doesn't mean you have to.

Speaker 3 (07:31):
Leave, correct, that's absolutely and you know what it is also,
I mean.

Speaker 2 (07:38):
It's the truth. It's the easy way out when I
look at it that way.

Speaker 3 (07:43):
When when it's the oh I can't play at this
certain time, well I can't play now, so I'm just
gonna leave. Nah. That was and at first that's what
I thought until my mom kind of spoke some sense
to me, letting me know and telling me, like, be
patient and trust your coaches. And I mean, honestly, I
think that was the greatest decision that I've ever made.

(08:03):
I mean, coach I still thank him to this day.
I mean, hen Wright started me that year, pretty much
saved my life.

Speaker 1 (08:09):
Oh wow, Sean kill Patrick Hall of Famer Sean Killpatrick
with us. So you know you didn't reference games. But
if if we're to sit down with some of those
kids you work with and we're gonna show him, like
Shawn's favorite game or the game that's gonna make him
go yep, now I know why he's in the Hall
of Fame. Which game do you point to?

Speaker 3 (08:31):
I mean, if I had a choice between two games,
I would say for one, I mean, I think obviously
everyone pretty much know that the Yukon game in stores
that was pretty much like a like.

Speaker 2 (08:43):
Here he is. It was one of those. But I
think my favorite game, I would say.

Speaker 3 (08:49):
I mean a lot of people would say Sarah Hus
when we beat Sarahcuse in the Garden, but.

Speaker 2 (08:53):
I think it's the Young Center when we play Louisville.

Speaker 3 (08:57):
Yes, that was one of it's still to this day,
probably the best game that I've ever played against. I mean,
well played in I've never seen a floor shake the
way it did, Like even going down dribbling, you can
honestly see like players moving like up and down, like
the floor was moving.

Speaker 2 (09:17):
It was crazy. That and just the just.

Speaker 3 (09:20):
The impact that that game had, even even leading up
to it or even afterwards when we did wins. I
mean it's that. That was bar I'll say bar none
probably my favorite game ever.

Speaker 1 (09:33):
Yeah, so you're you're talking about your senior year. You
guys were awesome. You go to Louisville, it's the end
of January. That's a good Louisville team. I think you
dropped twenty eight. Like I remember that game.

Speaker 2 (09:45):
Yeah, it's funny that we said that.

Speaker 3 (09:47):
I mean we just sat here and spoke about that
game because I just got off the phone with Russ Smith,
Like he's one of my bestest friends.

Speaker 2 (09:54):
Yeah, So to be able to really talk and be able.

Speaker 3 (09:59):
To here guys especially like him, who come from like
programs the way how our program is built. I mean
it's and playing for coaches like coach t I mean,
it was. It's amazing to honestly get that type of
respect from players like that.

Speaker 2 (10:14):
And we recall every.

Speaker 3 (10:16):
Time that about that game, like yo, I couldn't believe it,
especially with that year because we was going back and
forth when we beat them at the Young Center and
then they beat us at our house, so it was like,
man like, it was that that game and against that team,
especially that senior year, it was it was crazy.

Speaker 2 (10:34):
Yeah, crazy.

Speaker 1 (10:35):
You like Russ Smith more than I do because he
made that shot in that game at the BOT.

Speaker 4 (10:42):
To this day, I look like if you wouldn't have
made that or made that, But in terms of being
league champions, that's it.

Speaker 3 (10:55):
Bothers me that he hit that shot and we had
the obviously be tied for league champions throughout the team.
Within the teams that is, but we all know we
we want that. That's odd, Like what yeah, So, I
mean it's you, You're You're right at the end of

(11:15):
the day, that shot did horn us?

Speaker 1 (11:17):
Uh yeah, I uh, I still think about it ten
years later. I'm sure you did too. You mentioned you
mentioned Wes Miller and you've been back and you're obviously
back in town. Now give us an idea of I
guess number one, what your relationship like is with the
current UC coach and thoughts on the program, which we're
expecting really really big things this year.

Speaker 2 (11:40):
Correct. Yeah, yesterday it was well. Me and coach. I mean,
we've been well with me being.

Speaker 3 (11:47):
In New York and him being here. We was always
it was like a text combo. So my best friend,
he's he's cool, super cool with West. And he was
able to get me and West and to dinner yesterday
at Jeff Ruby's, so we was I mean it's and
I was able to actually meet him yesterday for the
first time. He's one of the I mean you can

(12:11):
obviously see it a player's coach, and he's somebody that
is important to this city. I mean, it's it's amazing
to actually see the type of players that he got
in when he first got here, what he had to
basically do, and even now with the transfer portal and.

Speaker 2 (12:30):
All this, it's a lot.

Speaker 3 (12:32):
It's a lot, but he's doing any and everything that
he possibly can for us to be in the best
spaces to win. And I think when you got former
guys who come back and because when I was playing,
that was something that was huge to our form of guys, Like,
of course, is the.

Speaker 2 (12:48):
Coach helping you guys and taking care.

Speaker 3 (12:50):
Of you guys, But what is it that you can
I mean, what is it that he can do to
help you guys win? And I mean I think that,
like you said, it goes back to it in a
very special and important season this year for them. But
I don't think there's nothing West can't do and Coach
West can't do in order to get it done. I
mean he's he's the guy for it. And I mean

(13:12):
he's ten times more of a greater person. I mean
I've watched the games and seen him as a coach,
but him as a as a person as oh man,
he's one of the greatest. So I'll give I'll give
coach that. And I mean I'm excited to see what
happens throughout this year. I'll be here a lot more
and being able to see things a lot more.

Speaker 1 (13:33):
Yeah, that'll be It'll be also awesome having you around.
Have you ever thought, I mean, look, you've you've done well,
you had had a good pro career. Life is good,
But have you ever thought about like twenty thirteen, twenty fourteen.
What sort of nil coin you could have pulled down at.

Speaker 3 (13:49):
Ze oh man? That is because that was a conversation
at dinner yesterday too, so he was saying he was
coach Miller was saying, he was like, man, it's like
I see it now in terms of like all the
kids and everybody's still like wear your jert like number two.
We see it like they know, like this is man.

(14:11):
But I can only imagine how it was when you
guys were like really in school, on campus and playing.

Speaker 2 (14:18):
I looked at him, I said, Coach, if we had.

Speaker 3 (14:20):
An il deals when we was there, people on our
team would be wanting to stay eight more years or
not like it because we were such our time like
I never I never, like not made the tournament.

Speaker 2 (14:35):
So it's like one of those man.

Speaker 3 (14:37):
He's and all the other players on our team, they
would have tried to stay no lives, probably eight nine
more years in school. If there an ill deal situation
was definitely going on all.

Speaker 1 (14:52):
Right before I let you run? What what what are
you up to these days? What are you doing with yourself?

Speaker 3 (14:58):
So right now I'm training children in New York, But
obviously I mean I'm pretty much open to anything. I mean,
but my kids is down in New York, so I'm
pretty much around there and just working out.

Speaker 2 (15:11):
With the children. But other than that, I'm pretty much relaxed.

Speaker 3 (15:14):
I mean, it's crazy that it's been two years now
that I've actually played the game. So I've been more
so on the looking looking at the TV point at
when I first retired.

Speaker 2 (15:28):
I want to say, now, when I.

Speaker 3 (15:29):
First retire, I didn't even watch basketball for a full year.

Speaker 2 (15:32):
I mean it was it.

Speaker 3 (15:33):
Was hard to do it because I already knew it
was like one of those like.

Speaker 2 (15:37):
Man like it's something. It's a bittersweet feeling, I guess.

Speaker 3 (15:41):
So I mean right now I'm just yeah, training children
and right now just staying staying healthy as much as possible.

Speaker 1 (15:49):
Awesome, Well again, congratulations, it's uh and by the way,
a loaded Hall of Fame class. I mean that's that's
as good of a group as they've had. So you're
you're in great company. It's a great honor tomorrow night
and well deserved. You know what I'm going to say. Next,
you got to come back. I still have my Facebook
page from ten years ago, retire number twenty three, so
I can reactivate it. We can start that movement again

(16:10):
if you want.

Speaker 3 (16:11):
Well, for sure, let's start that up and I'll be
promoting it everywhere.

Speaker 2 (16:15):
You know that.

Speaker 1 (16:17):
Awesome sk Congrats man, this is terrific. Thank you for
joining us MO.

Speaker 2 (16:21):
Thanks so much. I appreciate you

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