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September 23, 2025 13 mins
Terence Moore is one of the most accomplished sportswriters in America. Many have written books about The Big Red Machine, but the perspetive Terence writes about that era from is one of the most uniquie.

Terence's MY BIG RED MACHINE: The Tales, Drama, and Revelations of a Fan Turned Journalist Covering Baseball's Greatest Team, is a terrific read.

Get your copy at MyBigRedMachine.com

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
ESPN fifteen thirty, all right, two minutes later to start
few hours because I don't know how to read the clock.
What's up? Oh Egery, ESPN, fifteen thirty at seven minutes
at be four o'clock. It's a Tuesday afternoon, so we
are broadcasting from Oakley Greens, your home turf for a
Bengals away game, including on Monday night when the Bengals
go to Denver. Awesome place to watch the Reds this

(00:22):
evening as well, first of three big ones against the Pirates.
If you are wondering, no, Sal Stewart is not in
tonight's starting lineup six forty this evening on seven hundred WLW.
We'll get to some Red stuff as it relates to
tonight's game and this week in just a few minutes.
But I want to spend a few minutes with a

(00:43):
gentleman who has been on our show before. A renowned
sports writer nearly fifty years in the business, a proud,
very proud Miami Redhawk, and the author of a book
about the Big Red Machine. And let's face it, there
are a few teams that have been written about as
much much as the Reds of the nineteen seventies. But
Terrence Moore's take on the team is unique because he

(01:06):
writes about his evolution from fan to journalists during that
period of time. It's a great read. He was kind
enough to send me an electronic copy of it. I
devoured it. There's a lot of stuff in there that
even if you know ever you think you know everything
about the big Red machine, that's really going to surprise you.
And so I wanted to spend a few minutes chatting

(01:26):
with Terrence. That's a long intro Terrence, but nonetheless nice
to have you. How are you.

Speaker 2 (01:31):
Oh, I'm doing quite well.

Speaker 3 (01:33):
And it's still being a risk fact from way back
when let's pull for them, particularly when they played Milwaukee. Kay,
can they finally conquered their great satan Milwaukee?

Speaker 2 (01:43):
I mean, that's the that's the question.

Speaker 1 (01:46):
Well, you know, the last time, Terrence, and you have
a good memory, you've covered this sport for a long time.
The last time they went to Milwaukee for the last
series of the season. They needed to win that series
in nineteen ninety nine, and they lost two out of three,
Game one, sixty three to the Mets. Obviously, there's no
game won sixty three anymore, but they need to have
a cushion before they go to Milwaukee.

Speaker 2 (02:08):
Yeah, they definitely do.

Speaker 3 (02:10):
And you know, Milwaukee has turned into what was the Dodgers.
For the Big Red Machine back in the day, it
always seemed as if it came down to the Dodgers. Okay,
so at least is not the Dodgers. So the Brewers
you triggered, they could be somewhat conquerable.

Speaker 1 (02:28):
But you know what, you mentioned the Dodgers, right, So
if the Reds can do this, and they've got their
hands full with the Pirates team that's got good starting
pitchers Paul Schemes tomorrow, go to Milwaukee this week. But
if they could go to Los Angeles and take on
the Dodgers, that would evoke a lot of memories for
folks who remember that period of time back in the seventies.

Speaker 3 (02:47):
Yeah, and I'll tell you being a diehard Big Red
Machine fan growing up and not healthy back then. In
sixty eight we moved there from South in Indiana and
that was the first year of the Big Red Machine.
Arguably in sixty eight it was always a Dodgers. But
you know, the thing with the Big Red Machine, for
those of us from that era, it all came down

(03:07):
to what the.

Speaker 2 (03:08):
Big Red Machine wanted to do well.

Speaker 3 (03:11):
You always felt like if they wanted to dominate, if
they wanted to get the job done, they could, particularly
when you start getting more toward the team in the
mid seventies, was the complete team. Was the pitching, the speed,
the defense, They had it all back then, and so
it was more so what they well, how they how
much they wanted to dominate.

Speaker 2 (03:30):
It seemed.

Speaker 1 (03:32):
The book itself, which I mentioned the via email, I
thoroughly enjoyed My Big Red Machine, the tails, drama and
revelations of the fan turned journalist covering Baseball's greatest team.
There have been a lot of books written about the
Big Red Machine. It's very timely because obviously this is
the fiftieth anniversary of the nineteen seventy five World Series.
But this is a unique take on it to kind

(03:53):
of walk us through the idea behind what you wrote.

Speaker 3 (03:57):
Well, and again, we want to have as a diehard
Big Reversine fan, I lived and died with this team,
and I hope everybody says.

Speaker 2 (04:03):
That that I literally lived and died with this team.

Speaker 3 (04:06):
So I went from that to going to school, as
you say, up the road at Miami University, and a
week after graduating from Miami, I started working for the
cinciety Inquirer full time, and a lot of my assignments
involved the Big Reversine. So I had this rarity of
being a guy who went from idolizing a particular team

(04:30):
that happened to be, in this case, the greatest team
in history of baseball to sing up tills and personal
what these.

Speaker 2 (04:35):
Guys were like.

Speaker 3 (04:36):
And I want to tell you this was a surreal
experience for a lot of reasons. But I'm going to
start up by just missing this is one quick thing.
My all time favorite player was Pete Rose. First time
I was ever in a major league clubhouse, sophomore year
at Miami University, May fourteenth, nineteen seventy six, Pete Rowse
comes up to me and introduced himself to me, you know,

(04:59):
and I'm just.

Speaker 2 (05:00):
I'm about to faint. And he asked my name.

Speaker 3 (05:02):
I said, I said to to to Tory Terry Moore.

Speaker 2 (05:06):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (05:07):
A year later, and this is unbelievable, right about this book.

Speaker 2 (05:10):
A year later, I'm an intern at the SISCID Inquirer.

Speaker 3 (05:14):
Pete Rolls come up to me and says, how's it
go on, Terry, you work for the Sistant Inquiry yet,
And I told him I'm just an intern, and he said, oh,
you'll work here full time, and low of the hole.
The next year, when I was there full time, he
come up, came up to me again. And the very
first story I ever did as a professional sportswriter was
on Pete Rose talking about his sophoman called Pete, which.

Speaker 2 (05:35):
Was awful, by the way, But uh.

Speaker 3 (05:37):
Uh, it just stuff like that. You just cannot You
couldn't dreamed us up in a lab.

Speaker 1 (05:45):
I you know, I can't imagine. I can't imagine being
that age and being in that clubhouse, much less any
big league clubhouse. But but that clubhouse. You know, people
always say never meet your heroes for obvious reasons, you know,
doing this, I've I've had. I had the chance to
meet many of my childhood heroes. I mostly have fond
memories of those meetings, some not so much. But take

(06:07):
me through what it was like in a working environment
to be in the clubhouse with guys that you would idolized.

Speaker 2 (06:15):
Well, I want to want to say something more.

Speaker 3 (06:17):
When you saw it in the book, I would say,
on a zero to ten basis, as far as what
I expected out of these guys and the thrill or
the not so much of the thrill that you would
expect that you might have man your heroes, it was
a pretty closeer perfect ten as you can imagine. I mean,
it's one of the greatest experiences of my life. Even

(06:38):
more so than just meeting them. I developed this great
relationship with these guys afterward. Pete Rose, you know, I
know there's a lot of controversy about Pete Rose. I've
got very little bad to say about Pete Rose. He
was always great with me.

Speaker 2 (06:52):
You know. I was with him through the forty four game.

Speaker 3 (06:56):
Hitting streak, typing topping ty cops record. I was there
when he said he didn't bet on baseball, which of
course he did, so I had a great relationship with him.
Joe Morgan, we had a great relationship Sparky Anderson. And
there's all kinds of unique stories in the book with
those relationships, and one I'll give you a Sparky for instance.
I'm talking to Sparky one time when he's a manager

(07:19):
of the Detroit Tigers, and I'm expecting him to say
the glowing things about the big reversine, about how it
could have lasted forever. And he told me a couple
of things that shocked me, and one of which was
he said that after they won the second consecutive World
Championships in seventy six, he said that team was done.
And I was like, no, you got to be Kidney sparky.

(07:41):
I said that if you guys would have kept twenty
PRIs and a few other players, he said no, no, no, no,
it was done, and he was talking about how bored
he was after they won it, where he said that
there was nothing else they could do. They could have
just blown up the team. Then I was shocked by man.
He literally shocked the stuff that I got out of
Bob House and I'm sure you found a lot of

(08:01):
surprising things there where. Bob Housem, the architecture of the
Big Reversine, was very tightly with the media when he was.

Speaker 2 (08:10):
In charge of the rest.

Speaker 3 (08:12):
But I got to Bob Housm near his uh, near
the end of his life.

Speaker 2 (08:16):
He was eighty eight years old.

Speaker 3 (08:18):
And I got him on the phone about another matter,
and it was just unbelievable where he told me everything,
including he was mentioning, uh my guy Pete Rose.

Speaker 2 (08:28):
I said that uh uh you know, the.

Speaker 3 (08:31):
Pete Rose decision came when he had left, Bob Holgam
had gone and his predecessor, his successor, Dig Warrener, took over.
And Bob Housem told me, he said, well, you know,
we had to let Pete Rose leave to go to
the Phillies because we found out through police reports that
he owed gamblers thirty thousand dollars and they said that

(08:53):
that he was going to be found in the bottom
of the Ohio River if he uh stayed with the
Reds any longer.

Speaker 2 (08:59):
And that just floored me. That had never been said before.

Speaker 3 (09:02):
So different things like that I was getting from different
guys through the years, and certainly afterwards when their careers
were over.

Speaker 2 (09:11):
With the Ribs.

Speaker 1 (09:13):
How hard was it, because Bob Housen passed away seventeen
years ago, how hard was it to hold onto a
lot of that stuff?

Speaker 2 (09:21):
Yeah, you know, And here's the thing that's so interesting.

Speaker 3 (09:24):
I am my mother's son. I don't throw anything away.
I mean I've not saved records. I save books, I
save papers, I say, tape recordings. And this Bob Oldham
thing is a classic example of how this was meant
to be Back in two thousand and six, and this
is like two years before he died. I literally taught

(09:45):
him about something else and Antonio Davis, who has played
for the Knicks at the time, was involved with an incident.
We ran up into the stands in Chicago to fight
a fan, and I recalled. In nineteen seventy three, the
Reds were playing the Mets and the NLCS, and after
the Mets won the NLCS, the Reds contingent, you know,

(10:08):
as far as wives and such, they were being attacked
by Mets fans. So I caught up Hollism to see
if people talk about this, and again no one had
talked to Hollis them in years.

Speaker 2 (10:19):
So he talked about that. But that's when he started
telling me all this other.

Speaker 3 (10:21):
Stuff about the big Red machine, you know, and including
about how Dick Wagner his success was overbearing and he
should have never gotten the job, about how.

Speaker 2 (10:33):
George Foster about him.

Speaker 3 (10:35):
He got George Foster by by accident, by scouting another
person with the Giants, a minor leaguer by the name
of Bernie Bernie Williams. Not that Bernie Williams were the Yankees,
but another obscure Bernie Williams. So telling all these stories.
So after he finished on of these stories, I had
had the recording of this and again this is two
thousand and six, but working for the Land of General.

Speaker 2 (10:56):
Constitution at the time as a columnist, there wasn't anything
I could do with the rich part of it.

Speaker 3 (11:01):
So I said, well, let me put this tape recording
aside and save it for another day. And I forgot
about it. So mo I'm writing this book. And then
I started thinking about myself. Wait a minute, I had
this recording with Bob Housman, and I couldn't.

Speaker 2 (11:13):
Remember exactly what he said.

Speaker 3 (11:15):
So I went down to the basement and here is
years later, you know, and I started playing in recording
is in perfect condition, and I was even blowing myself
away with what.

Speaker 2 (11:24):
He was saying with these things.

Speaker 3 (11:27):
So if things like that just kept happening, so I
was meant to write this book for a lot of reasons.

Speaker 1 (11:33):
It's a terrific read. It's out in what about a
week and a half October the eighth Terrence Moore uh
The Pride of Miami University, My Big Red Machine, The Tails,
Drama and Revelations of a fan turn journalist covering Baseball's
greatest team great storytelling, awesome perspective. I can't thank you enough.

(11:55):
I appreciate you doing this, Arran, thanks so much.

Speaker 2 (11:58):
Well.

Speaker 3 (11:58):
I'll tell you boy, they can get it directly from
me at www. Mybigredmachine dot com right now, matter of
factory orders, and I will give you an autograph copy.

Speaker 1 (12:10):
Can't beat that My Big Redmachine dot Com. Uh, Terrence,
I enjoyed it. It's great for any Reds fan who
wants companionship reading as we watch the playoffs.

Speaker 2 (12:21):
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (12:23):
You got to check out the website Mybigredmachine dot Com.
I read that book in a day and a half.
It's it's it's really really good. I know there are
folks here Big Red Machine. Oh god, you know another book.
It's as unique and as good and as thorough. Even
Marty brennanman the forward, said there's like seventy percent of
the stuff he read in the book he didn't know.
And obviously he had a front row seat for the

(12:44):
seventy five and seventy six Reds. It's nineteen after four o'clock.
We'll get to some of the things the Reds are
doing tonight. No sal Stewart. Uh, we'll talk about the
decision to have Brady Singer pitch tonight's game. All that
coming up. More on the Bengals in the bit, plus
Brendan Jones on baseball later on this hour. We are
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