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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:10):
Let's go basketball in the Natties, Uh Bengals game plan tonight,
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we're done. Brendanman and Jones on Baseball is twenty five
minutes away. The UC basketball season is just a few
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weeks away. Cincinnati in an exhibition game for charity at home.
That's three weeks from Friday. Cannot wait. UC has had
a couple of practices under their belt. The head coach
at UC, Wes Miller, is always kind enough to join
us when we ask, and he's with us now. We asked,
he's here, coach, how are you doing?
Speaker 3 (00:50):
Great Mode practice has started, so all college coaches are
happy right now. The best best time of the year
is a college basketball coach. We actually get to do
what we love doing and get out there and teach
and you know, work on bringing a team together. Every
day so this is a great time to grab me.
Hope you hope you're doing well.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
I'm doing well and excited to talk to you. And
you know coaches always love to start a practice, right,
I've got to think in this climate, whether you love
it dislike it, things about it you love, things about
it you don't love. I've got to think in this climate,
to be able to get in the gym with your
guys is even more welcome than maybe it was just
a couple of years ago.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
You know, I've never taken this part for granted, right,
it's in my tenure. I think this is year fourteen
for me as a head coach, that those first couple
of days when you get back on the practice court
on a day to day basis. You know, years ago
we couldn't do anything in the summertime, but you know
now we do the summer. We do false stuff. So
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it's not like it was when you started on October
fifteenth and you had to wait all year. But it's
still special. It really is. And you know you mentioned it.
There's a lot different things about college basketball. The job
is very different than it was even three or four
years ago. But the part about getting out in the court,
and like I said, you know, teaching, bringing a team together,
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working with young people, that's the part that's still the
same and that I think a lot of us got
into it for that reason. So yeah, this is always
a cool time of year.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
I think the thing for me just looking at it
from where I said, is I love to me, it
feels like it close to perfect mix of continuity players
that have come back, players that are still developing and
have a lot of upside, with some guys who come
in from other programs, and incoming players as freshmen that
I think can add to your program and maybe give
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your team some things that lacked last year. Is that
a fair way of looking at things.
Speaker 3 (02:47):
I love the positive outlook there. But you know when
coaches hear the word perfect, they freak out right. So
I would never say anything perfect. But what I will say, listen,
I like the everybody likes their team this time of year.
If you don't like your team right now or the
construction of your roster, you're in big trouble. But we do.
But we genuinely do. We're not just saying that, not
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just the the you know, having the right talent or
you to mix up with players, as you mentioned, but
they're just really good kids. They're bought into being here.
They've had phenomenal work ethic over the off season. I
think in this era that it's even more rare to
find kids that are willing to sacrifice to the team.
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They all want to have a great year. So in
a lot of different ways, we're excited about this group,
but we're far from perfect, and we have a ton
of work to do to be a competitive team with
what we have ahead of us this year.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
All right, So let's look at the coming weeks between
now and when you play a game that counts on
that list of things that you have to address that
has to get better. What are the things at the
top of it.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
Well, I think you know, first off, we have to
figure out our identity defense belie and on the backboards.
And that probably just sounds like old coach talk. I
mean I think we really do. We're long and rangy
and versatile and athletic, but we still have to be
a team that can really defend every possession and can
really rebound and not give teams extra possessions. That is
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not what we spent the summer on, right, I mean,
we spent the summer on other things. That's what we're
going to spend the majority of the next five or
six weeks on. So we're ready to take the floor
and be the kind of team that we have to
be to be successful.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
I feel like the last couple of years, we do
this interview and we have a conversation about players who
have come back, and every year I ask, Okay, what's
the next step for Dan? What's the next step for
Dan's killings? You've got a long list of guys that
I can't wait to watch. But from last year to
this year, where's he better?
Speaker 3 (04:49):
Daniel? You mentioned, Yeah, you know, I think overall maturity,
And that might sound like a cop out answer if
you're looking for something very specific, but you know, Dan
started playing the game late. You know, he didn't grow
up playing it every day and playing on you know, teams,
it's youth youth teams and things of that nature. You know,
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So as he's become more mature as a basketball player,
you know, everything seems to get better, you know, with
his game, and so I think he has such a
better awareness of what it takes in college basketball at
the highest levels of college basketball. You know, he understands
what's going on out there on the floor. It wasn't
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that he wasn't intelligent, he just had not been exposed
and so you just feel like he's now settled into
what this really is. I think that vodes well for
him to show improvement in a ton of different areas
out on the court. But he's so much more mature
than he was this time last year.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
Give me an outlook year or two of Gisel James.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
Yeah, you know, you know you always bank on that
freshman to sophomore bump being you know, a big opportunity
for growth. There's so many examples of that every single
year in our sport. You know, you know we're we're
hoping on that with Gizzl. He's done his part this offseason.
You know, his shooting's improved, his decision makings improved. You know,
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he already had a college ready body, but he's refined
it again. I think when you're a freshman, there's a
lot of things going on that you know, you don't
understand because you're going through it for the first time,
and the world probably feels like it's spending one hundred
miles an hour. You know, the game has slowed down
to him a little bit on both ends. But I
say all this, I hate these questions most because we
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only had two practices. So you know, I can tell
you more in January at least after through the preseason,
but no, through the summer. In the fall, you know,
Gigzl did not look like a freshman anymore. You know,
he went from a freshman to a sophomore. We all
know his ability, so that that's been a really good sign. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
I could keep you forever and ask about every individual
player that you've brought into the program. I'm not going
to do that to you. So we'll sort of combine
the players that you've brought in from other programs together
and give me a sense of where you believe that
group of kids can give you, maybe on the offensive end,
some things that you couldn't quite get from last year's group.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
Yeah. So the transfers, I mean, you know, Connor Hickman
coming from Bradley, I felt like he was one of
the best guards in a great mid major conference in
the Missouri Valley last year. You know, the conference that
is well coached, really smart, skilled players, and players that
have left that conference to go on to leagues. Like
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ourson had success and we thought he was one of
the best players in that league. He's been great. He's solid,
he's tough, he's skilled. He can play both positions in
the backcourt, which was really important to us that we had,
you know, depth at point guard, but then the ability
to slide over and you know, ad shooting and skill.
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But I think what our our fans will be proud
of is that, Yeah, he's he's skilled, he shoots it,
you know, makes good decisions, but he's tough like bearcats
are tough. And uh, I think he really fits us.
I wish I wish he was only wasn't only here
for a year. I've been so thrilled with him throughout
the summer, in the preseason. And then you know, Dylan Mitchell,
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you know, just adds that that size and length. Uh.
But with the with the level of versatility that's very unique,
you know. I mean he handles the ball. Uh, he's
a great runner and finisher and transition. But we've been
we've been blown away with this decision making almost like
a point forward in a lot of ways. And then
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obviously he's got the ability defensively to do so many things.
And then impact the back ford and he's proven it.
He's he's done it already in our league at a
high level. Uh So so excited about him in an
Arranton page gives us you know, much needed uh depth
and talent in the front court. You know, he's a
guy that is still young, still growing at a really
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fast rate. But as he contend, he's going to grow,
and as he grows, and you know, his maturity on
the court catches up to his talent, he's got a
chance to be a really special player.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
You know, I'm old enough to remember when the season
would start like on November thirtieth, right or sometimes you know,
even going way back when early December you're going to
play a game that counts on November the fourth. And
you know, college basketball is different because there's more player movement.
Are there unique challenges maybe relative to when you first
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got into it in terms of building cohesiveness, building chemistry
that you put a premium on in the offseason because
of just how things work now in college basketball.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
It's a great question and or a statement with a question, right,
And it's accurate though. I mean, you know, I think
for us to be the team that we have to
be this year, think we're capable of being Our continuity
has to matter. You know, We're not going to just
be good because we return a bunch of impact players.
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But we do return a bunch of impact players, and
if we're going to be as good as I want
to be, that has to be a huge positive, you know,
and it's on us to go do the work to
make sure that occurs. I say that within your question
for this reason. You know, it is harder than ever
to instill values in a team, to bring a team together,
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to get people to understand what they represent by putting
this jersey on, because of all the movement and turnover.
But this year we have quite a bit of continuity
on the roster and we return a bunch of impact players.
Hopefully we're a step ahead in that way. And I
say hopefully because it's on us to make sure we are.
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But that should be a positive if we're a good team.
In fact, it will be a positive if we're a
good team.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
One thing that has changed in this sport since you know,
I started following it. There used to be two exhibition games,
you know, against traveling club teams, or you might play
a Division two or three school and there was benefit
to that. Maybe sometimes those games weren't quite as competitive
as we would like. And then you've been allowed to
play secret scrimmages, and then dorks like me have to
go on the internet and see if anybody leaked a
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box score. You're gonna play an exhibition game against a
high major opponent with fans in your own building, and
there's a great charitable component which I do not want
to overlook, but walk me through some of the benefits
of playing Ohio State in front of people as a
quote dress rehearsal a couple of weeks before you play
a real game.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
Well, first of all, you know, rules continue to evolve
and change this alarming rate. So the ability to do
something like this, I would imagine we'd have been doing
stuff like this ten years ago. It was I it
was if you were capable of it. So you know
that part of it. But I'm glad you mentioned it.
You know there's a bigger picture behind this, and it's
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to raise money and awareness for mental health. And you know,
like I'm glad to be a part of it. I'm
glad that before you know, power basketball programs in the
state of Ohio are all participating this, and I give
Anthony granted Dayton a lot of credit. He started this
process that we're now involved with in Ohio State and
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Savior as well. He started this over a year ago
and they did a game like this last year up
at Dayton against Ohio State that I know was a success.
So it's great to get involved with that on some level.
So yeah, that part's good, I think in terms of
just the benefit and value of it for the growth
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of our team. You know, we would do something like
that behind closed doors anyway over the years, those two
you know, closed door scrimmages that are technically supposed to
be secret, right, but we're never secret. I always found
that to be pretty funny, you know, And I always
thought it was really funny how you play scrimmage like that,
and you know, the way that you'd play the scrimmage
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would be very different than how you coach a game,
and I imagine most coaches do it that way, and
then people will be reporting on scores and stuff, and
it's like it wasn't a game, you know, it was
a you know, a simulation, but it you know, maybe
you had a segment where you didn't play normal rotations
or you know, you maybe get a segment you only
played zone or things like that, and then people reported
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on it. So I'm actually glad, glad to be getting
away from that crap. But but sorry for the ramt moo.
How get going.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
But look, as somebody who has spent way too much
time in his life trying to find out what went
down in those secret scrimmages, I'm happy too.
Speaker 3 (13:41):
Oh yeah, we just laugh about it when people would
report stuff on it. And as I as I've told
young coaches, you know, I said, when that stuff happens,
don't worry because next week everybody will forget about it.
Just didn't count anyway, and that type of thing. But
so I think with a game like this, you'll get
the same that you get out of that. It's a
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chance to see a different jersey in front of you,
to get defended differently than you defend each other in practice,
you know, to guard different things than you're accustomed to garden,
and to kind of get a real view of where
you stand, you know, in terms of the things you're doing.
I mean, you think you do that every day and
your practices, but when you see somebody else that you
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get more out of that that one time in the
preseason against another opponent, then you get out of a
week of practice. So I think we'll still get that.
But now you add fans in the building, and I
think that's really good for players too, so they've you know,
they've experienced playing in front of people and gotten some
of the jitters out by the time you take the
floor for.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
Real, I can't wait. Always good to have you. I'm
sure i'll bother you during the season. Thank you as always, coach.
Speaker 3 (14:47):
Yeah, thanks for having me on.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
There you go. Wes Miller, head men's basketball coach at
the University of Cincinnati. We are insanely late twenty from
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