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September 30, 2025 11 mins
Sam LeCure of FanDuel Sports network previews Reds/Dodgers National League Wild Card Series. 

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Or this is ESPN fifteen thirty, It's the Tony and
Bo Football Show, twenty Peaks and Florence with a very
very decided baseball field to it. Today he promised me
he would join us if the Reds made the postseason
once per series. And so here he is Fandel Sports
that we're all man our guys, Sam Leck here, Hi Sam.

Speaker 2 (00:21):
Hey guys. Uh, it's the way little little Bengals that
got me on Little Bengals.

Speaker 3 (00:27):
No, we're not going to talk about ball, Sam.

Speaker 4 (00:29):
I didn't really love the play call. I didn't really
love the play calling.

Speaker 2 (00:33):
But you know, I mean I can get pretty deep
on that if you want me to. But probably a
little bit more baseball for me.

Speaker 4 (00:40):
But whatever you guys want, all right.

Speaker 1 (00:43):
Well, your thoughts on the Bengals are welcome and and
feel like they're in line with ours.

Speaker 5 (00:48):
Let me start with this.

Speaker 1 (00:50):
So most of us have said, if they could just
get to the postseason, they've got a shot because of
the starting pitching and because they have a manager who
knows his way around the postseason. You've watched this team
for one hundred and sixty two games. What has been
Tito Francona's biggest effect on this club.

Speaker 2 (01:07):
I just I think the ability to stay focused on
the current day.

Speaker 4 (01:12):
You know, they had to do that.

Speaker 2 (01:13):
I mean it's kind of a mantra of every team.
You know, you win the day, you can't get ahead
of yourself, you can't worry about the day before. You're
just kind of focused on that game. And has it
always been pretty I mean, you guys have watched, No,
it hasn't. There's been some you know, I don't want
to call wild inconsistency, but it just never seemed like
there was a stretch where everything where they were saying

(01:36):
they're playing good ball and they were winning games. You know,
there was there was times when they were playing a
good game but they didn't win, and that's I don't know,
that's tough to overcome.

Speaker 4 (01:47):
But they managed to do it. So I don't think that.

Speaker 2 (01:51):
This game, even though not a lot of these guys
have been in the postcene, I don't think it's going
to be too much for them because if they've been playing.

Speaker 4 (02:01):
For their lives for a month.

Speaker 5 (02:03):
You know, you watched Blake Snell.

Speaker 1 (02:07):
Yeah, no, you watched Blake Snell last year throw a
no hitter against the Reds what makes him so tough?

Speaker 2 (02:14):
His stuff, I mean it's unbelievable. I mean, it's a
plus across the board. I'm sitting here watching the Detroit
Cleveland game. Detroit just made a big air in the
top of the bottom of the ninth. If you're curious,
it's like, but it's Scooball started this game for the
Tigers and struck out fourteen.

Speaker 4 (02:35):
It's that type of stuff.

Speaker 2 (02:36):
Now, I think where the Reds are going to benefit
a little bit is typically for him, it's high pitch
count stuff. So he may throw five shut out thirteen strikeouts,
but then you have an ability to get into their bullpen,
and that's been the Achilles heel for the Dodgers for
the most part.

Speaker 4 (02:51):
I feel like, so, I don't think it's a I mean,
it's a tough matchup. He's really good, But I think
as far as the Reds.

Speaker 2 (02:58):
Are concerned, it might be the best person to see
game one.

Speaker 3 (03:04):
Sam.

Speaker 6 (03:04):
We've seen so many times, especially down the stretch, Terry
frank Kina go to that defensive lineup to start a game.
We know the importance that he puts on defense. Does
that have to change when you go up against a
roster like the Dodgers. They're so dominant offensively tops in
the National League. Do you have to change the lineup
to be a little more hitter friendly instead of focusing

(03:25):
on defense against a team like the Dodgers?

Speaker 2 (03:29):
You know, man, I think it's kind of the opposite,
because the Reds aren't gonna win Slugfest, right, So every
run is so important, So you put your best defensive
lineup out there because that one run that maybe if
you haven't lux.

Speaker 4 (03:42):
Is in left field that he gives up. I mean,
that could be the difference in the ball game. Right,
So I feel like they're gonna.

Speaker 2 (03:47):
Put there a defense first lineup out there because indeed
to win these games, you know, four to two, three
to two.

Speaker 4 (03:56):
Something like that.

Speaker 2 (03:57):
If it starts to get above five, they're going to
have trouble keeping up with the Dodgers offensively. So I
saw I would say, no, you want your defense. Buddy
of mine was asking me earlier. You know, do you.

Speaker 4 (04:08):
Put Spencer at second and sal at first? You know,
to try to get some more offense in there.

Speaker 2 (04:13):
And I understand the thought, but no, I think you
have to put your best defensive lineup out there because
for them to win it's gonna be it's gonna need
to be lower scoring.

Speaker 1 (04:22):
I feel if there's one thing I wish we could
go back and redo, Brady Singer would have given them
a more length on Sunday so they didn't have to
call on Nick Lodolo and Nick could pitch tomorrow Game two. Instead,
it's gonna be Zach Lttel. Give me a breakdown of
Zach Lttel.

Speaker 4 (04:42):
I'm surprised about that.

Speaker 2 (04:43):
That's the first I've heard of it, to be honest
with you, So I just.

Speaker 4 (04:48):
Mailed it in.

Speaker 2 (04:48):
As far as it was going to be green Abbot
Lodolo in some order, it's it's then hit or miss
with him.

Speaker 4 (04:57):
I think the importance of Mattel to roster.

Speaker 2 (05:01):
I still like the move because then you have the
ability to put Nick Martinez and Chase Burns in the
bullpen and their big time weapons. As far as him
getting out there and starting the game, it's gonna be
a real short leash. And because of the home run
ball and because of the way the Dodgers kind of
grind a starting pitcher down, I think it's a tough

(05:21):
matchup for I mean, they're a tough matchup for anybody
but I certainly like a left hander against him a
little bit better.

Speaker 4 (05:30):
Well, I'll see, man. I mean, he can come out there,
and if he can start to establish I think the splitter.

Speaker 2 (05:34):
In the strike zone early in the count and start
to get a little bit to chase, I think he's
gonna be fine.

Speaker 4 (05:38):
I mean, I don't think it's going to be a blowout.
But do I like some of the other options, Yeah,
I do.

Speaker 6 (05:46):
It's felt at times this year like a boxing match
or like a UFC match, where it felt like if
the round went ten more seconds, the fighter would be
knocked out. I have felt that way with the Reds
a couple of times, and then they find a way
to come back out swinging. And now they've swung themselves
in the postseason and you go against the Dodgers who
have the World Series aspirations World Series or bust mentality.

(06:07):
Does it feel like it's house money? Does it feel
like a lot of the pressure falls on the shoulders
now of the Dodgers going into the series.

Speaker 2 (06:15):
I mean, I don't think that they're thinking that way
because this is the expectation for them. They've been there,
they've done that, They're comfortable in front of their home crowd.
They understand the adrenaline that comes with the full house
a little bit more than the Reds do. But because
the Reds have been fighting for their life, I mean
that's a dangerous thing. You backed somebody into a corner,

(06:35):
they're kind of going to come out claw on a
little bit, right. So a lot of times you'll see
towards the end of the season, a team that doesn't
have much to play for, they play freely, you know,
And I think that opens up some of the opportunities
for them to play the game the way that they
like to play it.

Speaker 4 (06:53):
So for the Dodgers to feel pressure, no, I don't
think so.

Speaker 2 (06:56):
I think they feel it's going to be a challenge,
just for the same reasons that we all do, which
is the Reds can pitch right. I mean, they believe
in their offense, but they understand that they're they're gonna
have their work cut out for them.

Speaker 5 (07:09):
The last time you were with me, I asked about
guys pressing is it is?

Speaker 2 (07:14):
It?

Speaker 1 (07:14):
Is it hard in a series like this, which is
not going to go seven, It's not going to go five,
and so one at that can mean so much more.
You got a lot of dudes on the road team
who have not played in the postseason. Is it a
concern that you'll have some guys who are pressing.

Speaker 2 (07:33):
Not not pressing necessarily. I feel like if they're able,
I kind of harness that adrenaline that they're going to
be feeling, which I think they're going to be capable of.

Speaker 4 (07:46):
Like I said, they've been playing playoff style baseball for
the past month.

Speaker 2 (07:49):
Even though you know the home crowds against the Pirates
when they're staying packing g JBP, you know, they showed
up and it's that kind of energy that you're going to.

Speaker 4 (07:57):
Have to get used to.

Speaker 2 (08:00):
If they can do that, which is tough, I feel
like they're going to be fine, right because you have
Tito to lean on. You got Travino who was in
the World Series against the Dodgers last year. You've got
Gavilux who was on the Dodgers last year. So you
have people to go to to kind of point you
in the right direction. They'll give you the answers to

(08:20):
the test a little bit, but you still have to
be able to harness that emotion and playing in front
of fifty five thousand Dodger Stadium and seeing the Otani's
and Freedman's and bets and all.

Speaker 4 (08:30):
That type of stuff. So I think they're capable of.

Speaker 2 (08:34):
It, you know, and that if they can score, you know,
four or five runs a night and they can handle
their emotions, then I feel like they've got a chance.
I mean, that's what everybody says. You get in the
playoffs and you have a chance, and this team does
because of the pitching you appear.

Speaker 1 (08:52):
You you appeared in two hundred and fifty big league
games as a member of the Cincinnati Reds, but you
also appeared in thirty one games as a member of
the Oklahoma City Dodgers in twenty sixteen.

Speaker 5 (09:02):
So are your loyalties wided?

Speaker 4 (09:05):
No?

Speaker 2 (09:06):
I even that's funny because when I went out to
LA like I, you know, I played with some of
those guys. I know, I'm fairly well. Uh, and I
bought a Dodger hat just because I didn't Yeah, well,
I mean there is some allegiance to them. That was
the last team I played for in pro baseball. But
it was sitting somewhere in my living room today and

(09:26):
I made sure to put it away.

Speaker 4 (09:28):
So no, my allegiance is not for sale.

Speaker 1 (09:32):
It's good to hear thank you as always, one time
per series. So hopefully we're talking to.

Speaker 3 (09:37):
You next week.

Speaker 4 (09:39):
Well I sure hope, so you and me both, Sam,
you're the best, all right, guys, thanks for having means that's.

Speaker 5 (09:44):
Our guy, Sam lekuret Reds and Dodgers.

Speaker 6 (09:46):
By the way, how about the Guardians honoring Terry Francona
a little bit of David Belt the contact player.

Speaker 1 (09:52):
So in the bottom of the ninth inning, Jose Ramirez
reached triple single and then an Aaron Javier Bias that
a Troy shortstop who we still don't like here in
Cincinnati because.

Speaker 5 (10:02):
He's the Cubs.

Speaker 1 (10:04):
Ramirez gets to third and then he is thrown out.
Was that ball head back to the pitcher with.

Speaker 3 (10:08):
One ass one hopper to the pitcher and he went.

Speaker 5 (10:11):
And he got caught in no man's land.

Speaker 1 (10:12):
So the Tigers hang on to win Game one in
Cleveland two to one, so obviously a one zero series
lead for Detroit. Meanwhile, in Chicago at Wrigley Field, the
Padres have a one nothing lead over the Cubs as
Chicago gets set to come to the plate in the
bottom of the third inning.

Speaker 5 (10:33):
So there you go.

Speaker 1 (10:34):
Road team wins Game one, in the American League Road
Team on top Game one in the other National League Series.
And by the way, I have to look up this
guy's name ESPN dot com. As you might imagine, everybody
is picking the Dodgers, sure, with the exception of Dan
Mullen of ESPN dot Com.

Speaker 6 (10:54):
Always been a huge fan of Damn Big Dan Mullen.
Guy knows what he's talking about.

Speaker 5 (10:57):
He's the football coach at UNLV, right.

Speaker 3 (10:59):
But he pays attention to baseball.

Speaker 1 (11:00):
So he is picking the Reds to beat the LA Dodgers.
Mark Guy, Yeah, Dan Mullen getting it done.

Speaker 5 (11:06):
There you go.

Speaker 3 (11:06):
Can we get him today?

Speaker 5 (11:08):
We're gonna get doug Landfille.

Speaker 3 (11:09):
Can we just keep pushing off any football.

Speaker 5 (11:13):
We're gonna do some football when we come back.

Speaker 1 (11:15):
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