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September 30, 2025 12 mins
ESPN MLB analyst Doug Glanville is on the call for the Reds/Dodgers NL Wild Card Series. 

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Speaker 2 (00:44):
All right, it is the Tony and Mo Football Show,
and I promise we'll get to the football from last
night in a bit. But honestly, how do you not
start the hour by talking about the Reds in Los
Angeles Wildcard Series against the Dodgers. If they win, too,
they advance in the postseason for the first time in
thirty years. You could watch the game first pitch nine
to oh eight tonight on ESPN. John Chomby, doug Landville

(01:06):
and Alden Gonzales on the call. Doug Landville has been
a long time MLB analyst for ESPN and ESPN Radio.
He is part of the Starkville podcast at the Athletic
also has a very good sub stack, and as he
prepares for the broadcast tonight, Tony kind enough to give
us a few minutes from Los Angeles. Doug, we appreciate
the time. Thank you for so much for joining us.

Speaker 3 (01:27):
How are you, Yeah, it's my pleasure to join. I'm
very excited, and yeah, I'm gonna head over to the
park in about a half an hour and start getting
you know, some reconnaissance done, talking to the managers. But
there's already a lot of excitement over there Dodgers Stadium
last night from the workout.

Speaker 2 (01:45):
Yeah, should be we get a great pitching match up tonight,
so I guess we'll start there. The thing about this series,
we've said all along, Doug, you know here in Cincinnati, boy,
if they could just get in, they'll have a chance
because of their starting pitching. Unfortunately, they're going up against
the team who's starters sort of negate that advantage. Is
that kind of how you look at Yeah.

Speaker 3 (02:04):
I mean, look, the Dodgers have phenomenal pitching it and
they're just in a echelon by themselves. The challenge though
for the Dodgers all season was that there all these
pitchers got hurt and they're going in a lot more healthy,
at least healthier than they were, you know, certainly different
other times of the year. So that just worked out
well for the Dodgers. They have the depth. But at

(02:25):
the same time, like a well pitched game is a
well pitched game. If you you know, with Hunter Green
on the mound, you know there's some arms in Cincinnati
that can keep it close. And when you do, you know,
just a big hint, a mistake by the other team,
and all of a sudden you could pull out a W.

Speaker 4 (02:40):
Doug. We often in Cincinnati have talked about Terry Francona
and the fact that he's had on this team. You
played under Terry Francona, I know, you guys stay close.
How much can a manager help in a situation like
this with a young ball club going to the stage
where the lights of the brightest here in La What
kind of effect does Terry Francona have before this came toime, Oh.

Speaker 3 (03:01):
He has a tremendous effect. I got to see him
manage through the playoffs when the Guardians were playing against
the Rays, low scoring affair and they managed to pull
it out, you know, just by the skin of their teeth.
It was low scoring affairs. But Terry Francona has evolved
so much into a real good tactician to go with
his incredible people skills. You know, he just knows how
to a few situations. He just asked you, look, you

(03:24):
got to play hard. You got to come to the
park every day and work hard. And then you know,
I won't say anything beyond that. You know, mistakes will happen.
But he very much understands how to reach players, how
to calm players, and to be positive. And you know,
when you're up against the Dodgers in LA, it's a
challenge because they you know, they have the payroll, they
have the swagger. But at the same time, the Reds

(03:45):
are able. We're there for a reason. There's a lot
of talent in that room. There's a lot of good pitching,
and Francona is such a glue guy in terms of
keeping people focus on pulling together in the same direction.

Speaker 2 (03:55):
I think we're expecting, if the Reds do pull off
the upset in this series, that they win two low
scoring games. That said, they've got to figure out how
to score. How do you do that against his Dodgers'
pitching staff when the Reds are not a very home
run not a big home run team, it's obviously a
pitcher friendly park, and you're going up against some great arms.

Speaker 3 (04:16):
Well, you just start tonight. You have Blake Snell on
the mound for the Dodgers. Now, Blake Snell is incredible.
You know, won a couple Cy Young Awards. His challenge
sometimes is the command. He likes to get people to
chase or miss barrels, and he does that very well.
They're gonna have to figure out how to lay off
his tough pitches. Let him maybe get a couple of walks,
and then you have to play small bill. You have

(04:38):
to move the runners, you have to score on fact flies,
you have to take advantage of mistakes. And so that's
how you chip away. Because with Smell, one advantage is
if he is inefficient, he's not going to be out
there that long, and then you're forcing the Dodgers to
get into the bullpen suitor. Even though they have a
lot of good arms out there, it's always to your disadvantage.
If you're in that bullpen in the fourth inning. So look,

(04:58):
Snell is a competitor. You tough pitcher, indeed, But that's
the thing, like, all of a sudden, if he's not
in command, and you have enough hitters that can sort
of work the count a little bit, the Reds can
try to win that small, close game.

Speaker 4 (05:11):
No team in the National League has hit more home
runs or scored more runs than the Dodgers have. The
Reds have relied on using defensive lineups, especially down the stretch.
Can you beat a team like the Dodgers playing a
defensive lineup? Or do you have to put your best
hitters in the lineup and see if you can match
run for one run with a team no One. You've
got Hunter Green on the mount.

Speaker 3 (05:31):
Well, I think in terms of Blake Snell, you're gonna
need the lineup because you're gonna have to figure out,
you know, maybe you do run into one excuse me,
maybe you do run into one pitch, and all of
a sudden, now you do get the two run home
r home run. Look, no question, the playoffs throughout this
sort of new format has leaned into the teams that
hit the most home runs. So you gotta have to

(05:52):
keep the ball in the ballpark on the pitching side,
and a guy like Snell, you know, you may be
able to you know, sneak one over the fence here
and there, and then you worry about defense and holding
the lead lead. That's where you make moves. I know
you have a guy like salth Stewart for example, you know,
an offensive more offensive minded player. Uh, you know, that's
someone that can cause a lot of damage. So you
look for guys then to secure the defensive side. That

(06:14):
up in the Guardians game today, you know McKenzie Noel
that made a kind of misplay at first base, couldn't
find the bag and then the Tigers ended up scoring.
So you got to minimize those mistakes.

Speaker 2 (06:25):
We know the big names in that Dodger lineup, Doug,
is there someone in that next tier in that lineup
that if you're you're Hunter Green, You're Derek Johnson, You're
you're in the bullpen, you're thinking, we can't let this
guy beat us, because we already know we're gonna have
a tough road to hoe with Betts, Freeman and Otani.

Speaker 3 (06:45):
Yeah, you gotta work around those guys, no doubt. I mean,
if you look at Otani's red zone in terms of
the batting, it's everywhere. It literally is everywhere, So you
gotta you gotta kind of avoid him. It's probably the
best way to do it. A tony, But yeah, this
guy's like Andy Paie. You have to watch carefully because
he's Andy Patas is the guy that you can sneak
up on you And there's no doubt that you know,

(07:06):
they have Asker Hernandez and guys off the bench, but
they're not They're not the team of the past that
they used to just roll out nine guys. They really
do try to mix and MAT's late, you know, key
he Hernandez or guys off the bench, So you have
to be able to counter those moves with you know,
Sancian or whoever you need at the time, get to
that six seven eight combination and then close it out.
So yeah, I like I like their chances because Hunter

(07:28):
Green's on the mount and when he's not his best stuff,
I mean he is really tough, one hundred plus miles
an hour, really two pitches, but he keeps everybody honest
because there's such exceptional pitches. That's what makes them different.

Speaker 2 (07:41):
No question, Doug, we appreciate you doing this, have a
great call tonight. Enjoyed the series.

Speaker 3 (07:46):
Thanks man, absolutely thanks for having me on.

Speaker 2 (07:48):
That's Doug Glanville, ESPN Baseball analyst. He is on the
call tonight on ESPN Television with Bucciambi and Alden Gonzales.
Of course, you can listen to the game seven hundred WLW.
The Red starting lineup has come out within the last
two minutes. Freedol and center, Marte and right. Andrew Harror's

(08:11):
dhing as you might expect because he feats on lefties.
Austin Hayes good enough to back, good enough to play,
He's in left field, That back must be okay. Spencer
Stewart first, Elie Dela Cruz is playing shortstop and batting sixth.
Tyler Stevenson catches key, Brian Hayes plays third base, Matt
McClain plays second base and bat's ninth.

Speaker 4 (08:33):
See, I just I lean the way that Doug Landville
just kind of broke it down. Though the odds of
you putting together two, three, four hits in an inning
against Snell are small. Yeah, why not trying to run
into one and then go defense, because that might work
against other teams? The Dodgers are the best offense in
the National League, and.

Speaker 2 (08:53):
We're specifically talking about third base.

Speaker 4 (08:54):
Yes, yeah, Dodgers are just too good.

Speaker 2 (08:57):
I'm with you, and key Brian Hayes is an excellent
defensive player. If they put him in the fifth inning
for defense because they have a lead, that doesn't bother me.
I want to try with a guy like Sal Stewart
to hit a two run home he could run. I
want to try to get a guy on base, because
blooping a blast, to me makes the entire difference in

(09:19):
the series. I think they're gonna have a hard time.
I don't think they're gonna have a hard time stringing
together consecutive hits. I think they're gonna have a hard
time stringing together consecutive extra base hits and putting up
as Chris Walsh calls him, crooked numbers without a home run,
and Sal Stewart gives me the better chance of like
Matt McClean, say what you want about him. At least

(09:39):
has fifteen dingers this year, could at least still your base.
Matt has had a disappointing season. You could sell me
on McClain's gonna play a solid second base and he
can't hit the ball over the fence. I don't buy that.
I'm getting that with Keith Bryan Hayes.

Speaker 4 (09:55):
And it's just it's it's different in the sense for
a pitch, like everything is amplified in the postseason. Sure,
so every out is stressful for a picture. Think about
the stress hunter Green as one through nine in that lineup,
you you never get to take your foot off the gas, right,
say what you want. You get to eight in the
Reds lineup, and you could probably breathe a little easier

(10:16):
for two batters.

Speaker 2 (10:18):
Now, really quickly here, I got this email from God. Fibonacci.
All right, God, this guy says he has met me,
says he ran into me at.

Speaker 4 (10:33):
Where you talk. You've you've met God multiple times. You
speak to him often.

Speaker 2 (10:37):
At Roosters and Mason.

Speaker 3 (10:39):
Ohh.

Speaker 2 (10:40):
This October marks the one hundred and twenty first World Series.
The Red's payroll one hundred and twenty one million dollars.
Oh in Jermatria, Revelation equals one to twenty one, and
revelation is the sixty six the book of the Bible.
This is really an email that I got. The word
Cincinnati equals sixty six, thinking the city's name with Revelation

(11:01):
and the one hundred and twenty first series. Ad Pete
Rose honored this year with the fourteen patch and you
get fourteen forty one and the thirteenth Prime, all aligning
with Los Angeles, the Dodgers, Red's wild card opponent. I
don't know what I just read, but this somehow suggests
that the Reds are going to beat the Dodger.

Speaker 4 (11:20):
You're telling me there's divine intervention at place.

Speaker 2 (11:23):
He just says this, this run is written in the numbers.
So God. Fibonacci, who says he has met me Man
Roosters and Mason. I don't recall the last time I
was there between peaks.

Speaker 4 (11:39):
Guy of course, right just getting emails, that's incredible.

Speaker 2 (11:45):
I get emails moment until we got that.

Speaker 3 (11:50):
All right.

Speaker 2 (11:51):
We just did three baseball guests. Frankly, I wish we
had three more were out, but we've done them, and
now we can spend some time. We're not done with
the Red Dodgers, but now we can as we want
the money game in here for some reason.

Speaker 4 (12:06):
Oh they're still in it right now.

Speaker 2 (12:07):
Let's discuss what happened last night in Denver. And what
to do next when we come back. Tony and Mo
Football Show Twin Peaks Florence on ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati
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