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They probably do so, so you're saying, maybe we should.

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Speaker 4 (02:35):
I was very excited to be talking to you.

Speaker 5 (02:38):
From your spot in the Forest Park parking lot, wherever
that was.

Speaker 3 (02:43):
I was in Forest Park. I was in a parking lot.
I'm not sure what businesses were in that parking lot.
There were just a lot of like cars parked randomly
space for out. Yeah, so I don't know where I was.
I mean, I know it's in Forest Park because the
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the car was marked, so I assumed for us Park,
and not that there was anything criminal or nefarious going on,

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felt bad. But I was running errands, I was doing stuff,
and then I stopped, set up a broadcast studio from
my car, and dig your podcast it.

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You know what it is, truth though, Like you said,
I mean, look, and you never know when you're gonna
need to go and do some live radio or so
or do a live podcast, and you're always prepared to broadcast,
and you were, and I appreciate you. No, that episode
is up. The conversation was great. Yes, it just emanated
from a car. Yeah you know, yeah, I did. This
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We knew going into that game. I think there's two
things we knew one of the three things we knew.
Number one, game was going to be close, it's Bengals Chiefs.
Number two, there were gonna be controversial moments during it.
It's Bengals Chiefs and it's the NFL. And number three,
there were gonna be like twenty eight different things to discuss,
a lot of different talking points. You've covered them all.

Speaker 3 (03:56):
You and I touched on this a little bit today,
but the general theme in the after math of the
game was, Okay, do you take that as devastating gut
punch loss and OMG, their oh and two sky is falling,
or do you kind of look at some of the
stuff that happened in the game and it's not a
moral victory, but feel encouraged by it. Here's my encapsulation,
here's how I feel. Okay, I think they're gonna be okay,

(04:18):
but they're getting a little bit too close to the fire.
I think they're gonna be okay. They've rebounded from oh
and two. The schedule in the coming weeks could not
be more forgiving. But if you keep going oh and two,
at some point you're gonna be oh to three. Yeah,
And mathematically that's just really tough to recover from.

Speaker 4 (04:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (04:36):
This, to me, the gut punch of that is still
it's still the aftershock of week one.

Speaker 4 (04:43):
It is like nobody cares.

Speaker 5 (04:45):
You feel unbelievable about where the Bengals are at. If
you won the game you should have in week one, right,
and you go and you you know that's again when
you when you look at the season as a whole
and you separate it into buckets, the Chiefs are in
a very different bucket from the Patriot. It's the only
reason that the Chiefs one really hurts you is because
you lost one in the first bucket of the games
you should have won, and so that you just you

(05:07):
gotta steal one somewhere else and however you want to
look at that so in the big picture of the season,
My view on your on your in your point is
that I think that is a absolute frustrating gut punch
of a loss in December. But I think when you
are more trying to judge the direction of the team,
the ceiling, what you know, a lot of stuff that

(05:31):
looked absolutely horrendous and week one, how problematic was that
going to be for long periods of time? What's the
sustainability of whatever you're going to show? I thought they
checked all, you know, so many of those boxes on
the hard stuff, the stuff that you really care about
over the long haul.

Speaker 4 (05:50):
Of this season.

Speaker 5 (05:51):
On Sunday, specifically, as it always is, Number one, Joe
Burrow looked really good and and he he threw the
ball with zip, anticipation, pocket feel, he ran, he'd all
the things that you expect to see from Joe Burrow.
You saw to make you believe, okay, And when you
have that, you're saying, man, everything's gonna and he's still

(06:15):
you know, outside of the you know, the fumble changes
of the game. I don't excuse it, but outside of that,
did everything you have to do to find a way
to beat Patrick Mahomes and and I think that makes
you believe that this team will be able to make
the playoffs. We consider their current schedule and the direction

(06:38):
that they're headed and make a whole lot of noise
when they get there and be the one team that
the Chiefs know when they come to town that there's
you know, a big issue.

Speaker 3 (06:48):
Yeah. I talked to somebody in Kansas City sports talk
radio who said that was kind of the big takeaway
that when we get to January, the Bengals are still
that one team that if they come to Arrowhead Stadium,
you fred a little bit more compared to Buffalo, Baltimore, LA,
whoever it might be. And yes, I wish they would
have won, but I do think that was that was confirmed,

(07:08):
that was reaffirmed on Sunday. There's sure Now the loss
may reverberate and perhaps the Bengals have to go to
Kansas City, maybe they end up with the same record
and Bengals have to go back to Arrowhead again in
the playoffs for the third time in four years. And
if that's the case, then you look back at Week
two and there's a lot of different moments in that game.
The moments in that game for me aren't fourth and sixteen.

(07:32):
And it's not Jamar Chase's meltdown, it's not the miss
pat which ended up kind of being a wash. It's
two possessions in the fourth quarter on the road with
a lead. Yep, that if they end up in Kansas,
we have right, But I mean, all right, they go back. God,
I wish they would have beaten the Chiefs and now
they gotta go back to Arrowhead and maybe they win,
and it's a mood point, but God, why they have

(07:53):
to go back? And I'm gonna say because in the
fourth quarter, on two different occasions with the lead on
day where they have outplayed them, they.

Speaker 5 (08:02):
Couldn't get a done punt, fumblefield goal. Yep, three possession
if you count the first. I mean those were I
mean that was with them in control. You know, you're
that fumble possession. You go back just to that one.
They are real? Are they trying to darn or put
that game away? On that drive? And it goes from
that to all of a sudden, you're now playing from

(08:23):
behind on in one play and you know it that
changes everything. But you go to you know, and I
think there's real questions to be asked about. I thought
the play that I go back to, if you pick
out one play that's not one of the obvious, like
you mentioned four sixteen from whatever, the second down to yosebash,

(08:46):
that was a drop kind of a yeah, five catches
that right, and that play he's the one that's the first.
That's one of the first times, not not the only,
certainly we talked about. You know, the Patriots game is
probably different, I think because they just they.

Speaker 4 (09:02):
Just needed a dude.

Speaker 5 (09:04):
When nothing was going right. They needed to throw at
the tee well, and they didn't have him to go to.
That's a different discussion. But you know that was that
game where you were like, oh, they are they missed
Higgins right there? Yea, where he that is? That is
in your sleep yet a little bit behind him, but
he's just he just you know, contorts his body and
snags it and goes down and you move and that

(09:26):
is a game changing play. You are now that drive
is now moving, the clock is going all the way down.
You might that you're so close, you're one first down
or maybe two away. From knee time and victory formation
and never giving them the ball back as desperate and
fluky as fourth and sixteen was, it wasn't desperate or

(09:47):
fluky when you had to punt that you're not winning
this game because you're giving the ball once again back
to Patrick Mahomes with plenty of time and timeouts and
the field to go and just needing to go kick
a field goal, right, yea, So they were their defense
stepped up.

Speaker 4 (10:05):
But you can't. You can only do that so well.

Speaker 5 (10:07):
I mean, you can only your chances of victory if
he comes to that and they know it, and they
knew it, and this has happened again with you in
these games and they couldn't get that last drive done,
whether it's you know, a couple of drops there or
whatever you want to call it, that that play certainly.

Speaker 4 (10:24):
Stands at him.

Speaker 5 (10:24):
Maybe it's different with t and I think you see that,
you'll you know, he's probably gonna play against Washington.

Speaker 4 (10:29):
But again with the.

Speaker 5 (10:31):
Like just that finish, yeah, that finish against those guys
where you just need those couple extra plays that they've
gotten sometimes. They certainly did in the AFC Championship game
in twenty one but the defense kind of provided, but
they the offense did enough. The third and twelve throw
at pay Corps that finished off to it. Those are
that's along with everything else in the aggression that they had,

(10:54):
how you beat the Chiefs and they when you don't
do it and you kick it away, you get what
you get well.

Speaker 3 (11:00):
And another one of those moments is on a day
where he was otherwise really good, Mike Kaseicki has a
first down drop and then two plays later is the fumble.
And maybe that still happens, but I would love to
go back in time and have him catch that pass
and then then just see how things would unfold just
on that drive. Maybe the same, maybe different, but like

(11:20):
when he fumbled it, I went, God, this this sequence
seems to me like it would be different if he
catches that pass. And you hate to harp on him
because he was otherwise excellent right and showed you some
of the stuff he can do in this offen.

Speaker 5 (11:32):
I'm not sure how much of this was easy to
see on the TV broadcast, but you know in person
from the moon where we were at up in the
press box, that was the one swath of the field
that the sun was still coming through right, so everything
into the ball. It's like a hitter right when ye
when it changes from shadows, and I'm not it's it's

(11:55):
an excuse, but it was weird where where his route
ended up was three yards into the sun.

Speaker 4 (12:03):
So at the right as.

Speaker 5 (12:04):
It arrives, boom it's and you're looking up and he's
looking up into it coming out of the shade into
the sun right at the last second. It was a
really weird spot to be to try to catch that ball.
And again, not you got to catch the ball, whatever it's,
it's you're playing the game outdoors. But uh, that I
think that was a big part of that one because otherwise,

(12:24):
I mean, I guess sick. He's as as sure handed
a tight end as they Yeah, and.

Speaker 3 (12:29):
And he was otherwise terrific, terrific.

Speaker 4 (12:31):
How about the fourth down? You know what a tone
setter for the day. Yeah, Well, two things.

Speaker 5 (12:38):
One, we are not sitting patiently back and punting and playing.
We are going after you on the first possession and
when we gotta have it, we're gonna go find our
tight ends, right and you're not because you're gonna think
you're gonna get us by double and Jamar well, guess what,
you're gonna get a steady diet of these guys. And
that was really the theme most of the day. Yeah,

(12:59):
obviously in the.

Speaker 3 (13:00):
Do you wish that would have continued at the end
of their first drive fourth and goal They've gone for
it fourth down earlier in the drive. I can't blame
them in a game that's going to be close for
taking the points. I have a hard time with that
because you could trust your defense all you want, it's
still emotionally deflated and go down the field to start
the game and you come up with you come up empty.

(13:21):
At the same time, if you're going to coach that
aggressive early in the drive and you're on the doorstep,
it's not fourth and goal from the nine, it's fourth
and goal from the four.

Speaker 5 (13:28):
H Yeah, that's a tough one because I can't kill
them for it. No' So here's the other side of
that is all week and you know, talking to people
in the building and Zach, it is, Look, there's such
that it's been such a difference maker for this team
to just score early, to get going early, to have

(13:50):
positive drives and and that be how the game starts.
And so you I think there was a real worry
about something that happened in the Patriots game where you
have a good drive and then you get nothing out
of it, and then you have trouble getting it back,
and there's like a yeah, it's it's a little bit
more momentum based early in the game than it is

(14:11):
probably numbers based and gut based and knowing your team
and this team wanted to get out kind of play from.

Speaker 4 (14:18):
Ahead a little bit.

Speaker 5 (14:19):
And then that at that switch later in the game,
I mean, when they could have taken the lead and
opted instead to go for it, then it's just then
it's about the numbers and understanding what type of game
you were in. But I think at that point he
knew he was in the type of game where they
needed to get something out of Drive one, and once
they had it, they didn't want to risk giving it away.

(14:39):
It's a tough call, it is.

Speaker 3 (14:41):
I have a hard time saying he got it wrong. Yeah,
but my preference there is, Dude, we've gone forward and
fourth and three close to midfield, let's do it here. Yeah,
let's let's let's do it here with Joe Burrow and
try to score seven points. And again, like I kept
thinking about it a halftime because they had outplayed him.
They had scored four of ten draw is they're up
two zero and turnovers up six points.

Speaker 5 (15:02):
Yeah, yeah, And it felt like it needed to be
more and it ended up being the case.

Speaker 4 (15:07):
I'm with I.

Speaker 5 (15:08):
Just feel like I don't tell them well and also
you don't know, like what is you're learning off a
small sample size of the red zone and gold to
go stuff of how sticky is that gonna be down
there today? Is that gonna be tough? Like are you ever?
But at the later in the game, I think they
felt really good about their red zone plan. They'd seen
like eight million goal to go plays at that point,

(15:29):
and so you feel like you have a better feel
for what will work and the possibilities of it happening.
At that point, you're still kind of coming in blind
a little bit too, how tough red zone is gonna
be that day, and some other things that Spags could
throw at you that he's got in his pocket. Whereas
when those are eliminated a little bit more, you can
you can have a little bit better feel.

Speaker 4 (15:50):
So I'm with you, like on it.

Speaker 5 (15:52):
On the surface of on the surface of logic and
the numbers and beating the Chiefs. I think you can
make an obviously make a big argument for going for
it there. But I think the in where the Bengals
were kind of adding that game and in the season
and not kind of knowing, I think taking the points
I do.

Speaker 4 (16:10):
Agree with that may just making some sense.

Speaker 3 (16:11):
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Maybe I'll be back to me and you we'll come
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Speaker 3 (17:18):
All right, eat burgers. That sounds good. Uh, moments were
circling in that game, and you you touched on it
in in your one of your post mortem pieces, the
Jermaine Burton play. Yeah, that's the start of something.

Speaker 4 (17:30):
It has to be.

Speaker 3 (17:31):
We discussed like, all right, doesn't have Burrows trust, there's
one way you get it. You're gonna get limited opportunities,
maybe a few more without tea. It had kind of
been teased all week long, right, I geta been like
part of the dialogue last week was all right, Burton's
gonna get a shot, and when's it gonna come? Is
he gonna take advantage?

Speaker 4 (17:48):
And he did, and he did I. You know, I
enjoyed the timing of it.

Speaker 5 (17:53):
Okay, all of halftime to sit there and be like,
all right, first play, you're gonna go out there, You're
gonna run.

Speaker 4 (18:01):
Straight to you right, like, let's start easy.

Speaker 5 (18:04):
And there was more in the playbook for inclusion, but
obviously the one thing that they knew that they would
want to do. You could play off of some stuff
that you've done earlier in the game with your formation
and what you do that would get you a one
on one going deep on the outside, do it immediately,
go right to that play.

Speaker 4 (18:20):
And he made it happen, and you're right to earn.
You know.

Speaker 5 (18:24):
The tone of the conversation about him changed last week
during the week of them of just everybody kind of
being like, you know, like he's he's coming along, You're
seeing some of the progress and the right steps that
you want to see that we feel like we can
trust him with a little bit of a package. And
that's what we said, even as all the stuff was

(18:45):
going on in the preseason, was like, they just need
to put together a small package that you can start
him with and let him prove himself there and then
expand that as many times as he warrants, and that's
what this was. That was really number play one of
that and so to get that that gives him his
first taste, you know of making a play of what

(19:08):
all that stuff during the week leads to if you
do it right and and and then Burrow to believe that,
I know that this guy can go win, he can
make a play, he'll do the right stuff, and if
that continues, you can do more.

Speaker 4 (19:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (19:21):
That felt like when we look back on this game
in two and a half months or whatever, it might
be one of the biggest things that we talk about, Yeah,
is that was when they finally started to you know,
it started to click and they were able to kind
of build something the very very first brick of something
with with Jermaine Burt.

Speaker 3 (19:42):
I thought it was cool on a week where he
made a lot of news that Jamar Chase came out
and talked about him. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (19:47):
I thought that was cool.

Speaker 3 (19:48):
Yeah, and not insignificant from where I said.

Speaker 5 (19:51):
No, I feel like those guys are you know, they're
they're trying and they get it. Both t and Jamar
have done this, and both Tea and Jamar went through
some pretty notable struggles early in their rookie year. Jamar's
very notable across the country, and T had a ton

(20:12):
of them too.

Speaker 4 (20:12):
They were overlooked by a lot of other things.

Speaker 5 (20:14):
Burrows Camp, COVID season. There's a lot going on there,
but T really, you know, he had injury. T had
injury at that point, and he really took him a
while to get going and learn everything. And he was
playing behind guys he shouldn't have been playing behind uh
and and all of that went away for those guys
as some of the games started going and they were

(20:35):
able to earn a little bit of trust, and.

Speaker 4 (20:37):
So they had them speaking.

Speaker 5 (20:38):
I think they see a little bit of some of
the stuff that they went through in Germane in different ways,
but the same type of stuff where you're gonna have
a lot of adversity as you try to figure it out.
And I feel like they want to help them and
when they feel like they see things going in the
right direction, they want to, you know, prop it up
because there's probably too much going other directions.

Speaker 3 (21:00):
Sometimes we do have to talk about fourth and sixteen.
We do have to talk about the distribution of touches
among the running backs. We have to talk about the
search for a defensive tackle uh and UH stadium upgrade fever.

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Danner Junior's with us for another few minutes. Uh. He

(22:15):
wrote about this extensively, and it was the first question
that I had to John Anthony. So now I'm rooting
for him to like have a game. Yeah, I didn't
like him being on the field.

Speaker 4 (22:26):
I didn't like him being in the field.

Speaker 3 (22:27):
Fair to question the strategy. You know, my colleague Tony
Pike has obviously hammered him for only rushing three. There
were players on the sideline that I would have preferred. Okay,
Now what I'm hoping for is he becomes, in relatively
short order known for something beyond that plane.

Speaker 4 (22:43):
Yeah, and he will. I think he's earned his future,
is really right?

Speaker 3 (22:48):
You know how this works.

Speaker 5 (22:49):
Yeah, I know, you know how this works a lot
of times.

Speaker 4 (22:51):
This is what it is, right.

Speaker 5 (22:53):
No, I think he played really well in camp and
really opened a lot of people's eyes, and they liked
his instincts and feel and speed and all that stuff.

Speaker 4 (23:08):
It's just.

Speaker 5 (23:11):
Really hard for me to be totally comfortable with a
seventh round rookie who's never really done much of anything
before to be out there in a spot that is,
you know, is going to be so much about just
understanding a situation.

Speaker 3 (23:30):
It's NFL snap and it's so it's just.

Speaker 5 (23:36):
A little, you know, a little nugget from before the game.
And I touched on this in my piece. We're sitting
there in the press box and I look down and
I see one player walking on the along the field.
It's really early and somebody in street clothes. So I
pull out my binoculars and it's Dejon Anthony and he's

(23:56):
out there and he's doing the like walk that you
and I would do if we walked into an arrowhead
for the first time. Sure, and where he's looking around
at the top of the stadium. He's got his phone
out and he's like, look like he's taken video, you know,
just ten yards from where he would then be asked
to make that play. Now, now, granted he's made plays,

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he's played in the SEC. You know, this is not
saying that he's overwhelmed. And they said, you know, they didn't.
They felt like the moment has never been too big
for him and anything that they've done. You know, Jordan
Battle may be a box safety, okay, and that's not
his role on the team to be the back guy.
I those sold that he is one of the most

(24:38):
intelligent players that plays the same position, and and that
wouldn't be someone that you would go to in a
that has a year of experience that is going to
be solely based on intelligence of understanding what they're doing. Now,
if that's if he hasn't been practicing there and that's
not what he's been doing, then I get you.

Speaker 4 (24:58):
What your guy's got to be your guys, and you
got a.

Speaker 5 (25:00):
Place I'm not gonna I didn't like him being on
the field, but I get it when it was look,
it was either put another fast guy with fresh legs
out there versus a pass rusher where they were all
toast because these guys have all been over extended. You
had Rankins and Hill hurt you. You don't have anybody
to go to, right and so they feel like we're

(25:22):
just gonna We're just gonna put an extra guys back
there that we know will be fresh. I don't have
And he's done it, you know, like you said, he
would do it one hundred out one hundred times had that,
So I think I don't have a huge problem with it.
But when it happens, I mean, I remember somebody was
talking to me the night before about how they were

(25:43):
anticipating Anthony playing a.

Speaker 4 (25:45):
Little bit bigger role, and you're seeing his role grow.

Speaker 5 (25:47):
And I kept thinking, like, man, if you're grasping at
the days John Anthony Straw right now being like a
guy and you know he plays these snaps and you
have an interception taken off the board and the play
of the game at the end, and I just it
felt a little early to grasp at that straw to me,
and it made me nervous when I heard it, and

(26:10):
you know, it ended up being proven correct. That doesn't
mean his future isn't bright and there shouldn't be a
role for him in the future, and that that's the
role he's currently and isn't still probably a good fit
for him. It's just it's just it just felt a
little early when it does feel like there there's maybe
other things you could do.

Speaker 3 (26:24):
Who's gonna play defensive tackle?

Speaker 5 (26:25):
One Monday, a guy might Lawrence guy who apparently signing yes. Yeah, uh,
you know, he's started a ton of games for the
Patriots over the last five years, just thirty four. I'm
gonna guess he was sitting at home, like, should I retire?
You think someone's gonna call me?

Speaker 9 (26:41):
Right?

Speaker 4 (26:42):
Someone called someone call your phone, rang, honey. I think
I'm gonna go to Cincinnati. I think they need me
for like a week. I'll come home with a big check.

Speaker 3 (26:49):
It's gonna be great.

Speaker 4 (26:52):
They're gonna ask me to go stand.

Speaker 5 (26:53):
In the middle and not move for about twelve to
fifteen snaps, maybe more. But yeah, I mean they had to, Like,
it's one thing to say in the long term, Oh,
we're gonna try to build this and that guy like
they they literally need a human being, right that can
play that position, to come in and play it Monday.
And luckily it's a position where you can just tell him,

(27:16):
go there and soak up blocks. You've done it for
your entire career, right, go do it a few more
times for us, please, and we'll happily pay you for it.

Speaker 4 (27:25):
And so I think I don't I don't know how
long he'll be here.

Speaker 5 (27:29):
It could just be until a few guys get healthy,
but you know it might be a little while. Hamstrings again,
look at me in early hamstrings.

Speaker 4 (27:37):
You hate that.

Speaker 3 (27:37):
The Jenkins thing was, you know, busted thumb. But he
might be able to play against Kansas City. That's not happening.
So are we just sort of not counting on him
being a factor at all in the coming weeks.

Speaker 5 (27:48):
Well, I think I think Jenkin's coming back is possible.

Speaker 4 (27:52):
We'll learn a lot. It's hard to know right now.

Speaker 5 (27:54):
I mean, I just think they felt like he had
just had surgery and was just not really the right
move to to put it out there with some giant
club or try on some different protective stuff that maybe
he could be more comfortable with or whatever.

Speaker 4 (28:06):
And if he.

Speaker 5 (28:06):
Can't use his arm, like if he if he's not
comfortable using that, is he the guy you won out
there anyway? And so I think they were kind of
fighting that a little bit. But yeah, you know that
was a position that was already thin. You already didn't
like it, even with everybody healthy, and now you've lost
the two guys.

Speaker 4 (28:26):
You were counting on most for We'll see how long.

Speaker 3 (28:29):
But again, Hamstrings, you said before, you think there's a
good chance we see Tea on money.

Speaker 4 (28:34):
Yeah, I think so. I think.

Speaker 5 (28:36):
I mean, when you saw him everything you saw last week,
all the positive talk about.

Speaker 4 (28:40):
Him, as far as the tone of the way people were.

Speaker 5 (28:43):
Not say it, but kind of saying it, like right, looking.

Speaker 4 (28:46):
Good over there, like he's out.

Speaker 5 (28:48):
He was doing this today, and then you go and
on Sunday there he is doing a pregame routine. He's
got the tennis balls out, he's running with the receivers,
catching balls from Jake Browning, like all of that stuff,
and he looked really good on the side. All of
that combined, I think has everybody feeling like Monday is
gonna be his day.

Speaker 3 (29:07):
So you could have Jamar, you could have tea. And
then there are nine tight ends they.

Speaker 4 (29:10):
And they're all apparently good.

Speaker 3 (29:12):
Eric All could play Eric All can play MIKEASICKI. The
one drop notwithstanding was was fine. Yeah, they've they've got
like a really good room.

Speaker 5 (29:21):
And Drew Sample is doing all the things Drew Sample
does right where he's he's grabbing. Look, he catches the
ball in his throwne to him. He does that thing
where he takes a step and tries to avoid him
and the guy cuts his legs out and he goes down.

Speaker 4 (29:33):
But so what he.

Speaker 5 (29:35):
Can he can do that when you need him to
do and and and he blocks and he and he
blocks very well.

Speaker 4 (29:40):
Man.

Speaker 5 (29:41):
Eric All is gonna be a guy. Yeah, he looks
like he's gonna be a guy.

Speaker 1 (29:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (29:44):
And the Bengals have searched for this for so long,
and it feels like they finally might have found.

Speaker 4 (29:49):
A guy at tight end and really good.

Speaker 3 (29:50):
And I said that out loud watching him on Sunday,
I'm like, I I think I think we can stop
talking about tight ends.

Speaker 1 (29:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (29:58):
Well, the interesting thing about that, I don't know how
much time you have, but like you know, the twelve
and even thirteen personnel stuff they were doing, it's it's
not that they're doing it. They did it more certainly
than they have and that was a big part of
the game plan, but they threw out of it more
than they ever have by a huge margin. I mean,
it was like only like a thirty four percent run

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rate out of twelve and thirteen personnel, which is the
opposite and normally that they're up in the seventies with that.
And so when you can go out there and you
can get other teams into base defense and get linebackers
on the field, boom, now you're cooking because you can
end up working matchups through motion and other things to
get one of those linebackers match up on somebody that

(30:42):
you really like or and know that you can go
And they were doing it over and over again. So
when Chiefs come out and they're in double jamar mode
to have an answer while also not sacrificing your running
game at all as also another answer.

Speaker 4 (30:57):
It just bakes in so many more ways that can use.

Speaker 5 (31:00):
This is what we talked about in the beginning, the
very beginning of the season. This is what the versatility
can end up meaning for them, where they can just
give Burrow a lot more options to go to. And
so perhaps this can be it Higgins Chase two tight
ends and one running back can be.

Speaker 4 (31:20):
It could be your go to formation.

Speaker 3 (31:22):
Yeah. And then meanwhile, running back Zack Moss runs like
he's wearing snow boots and Chase Brown doesn't. So can
we flip up the touches.

Speaker 5 (31:32):
It certainly feels like that you might want to even
that out a little bit. I think, you know, Zach
Moss has had some nice play, particularly in pass pro.
He's got some p rying tendencies to him, kind of.

Speaker 3 (31:45):
Where you're let me tell what Chase Brown, what his
tendencies are. He runs fast?

Speaker 4 (31:49):
Okay, he does run fast.

Speaker 5 (31:51):
Uh, you know, I think that you would certainly like
to see those touches even up a little bit and
give Chase Brown a little bit more. Maybe that's the
Maybe they just felt like Zach was a bet, was
better situationally for all the stuff that Spags was gonna
be throwing at them, him taking all the goal line stuff.
Maybe I get a little bit more because he's a
little bit more of that bigger body that can make

(32:12):
a one guy missed for an extra couple of yards
that you needed the goal line. Perhaps he's shifty that way.
So I get both of those, but you can't. I
don't think you can come out of a game with
an eighty twenty split between those two. Like that's that's
not what They're both fully healthy and that shouldn't look
like it.

Speaker 3 (32:28):
And I like, I understand Zach Boss was brought here
to be a part of the offense, but like it's
it's like with Chase last year early not used, then used,
and then at the end of the year not used,
and it's like once's my guy, gonna get a shot.

Speaker 4 (32:41):
Yeah, And when he plays, he's done. He's done well.

Speaker 3 (32:43):
When he is on the field and gets the ball
in his hands, really good things happen. You're supposed to
build upon that. And it's a very small sample size.
In twenty twenty four. But that doesn't feel like that
happens with him.

Speaker 5 (32:53):
I'd like you just would like to see what a
full game looks like, you know, where he ends up
touching the ball fifteen times, because you feel like two
or three of those would be explosive, right, you know,
and they we just I don't have a problem with
them again, them using both of them.

Speaker 4 (33:08):
It just you shouldn't. You shouldn't come out of a game.

Speaker 5 (33:11):
And he played twenty percent and only touched the ball
a couple of times.

Speaker 3 (33:14):
All Right, It's been a big day because we have renderings, renderings, renderings,
and we have a price tag. We have a price tag,
we have a county commissioners. This is fun stuff.

Speaker 4 (33:24):
You love this stuff.

Speaker 3 (33:24):
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years has arrived. Yeah, and that's when we start to
talk about not just the future of the venue originally
known as Paul Brown Stadium, but what's gonna happen with
taxpayer money as it relates to it.

Speaker 4 (34:09):
We're here, We're here.

Speaker 3 (34:10):
So you were watching County Commissioner meeting.

Speaker 5 (34:12):
I watched I watched the County Commissioner meeting, which was
it was essentially just about an hour and a half
presentation of this is what they've put together that well
the architects and construction and everybody that was asked to.

Speaker 4 (34:28):
Do this, and they put together their plan and shut
it off. It was I mean, it's impressive.

Speaker 5 (34:33):
I never doubted that they would be able to put
out some amazing renderance and that it would be cool.
And they're gonna, you know, have the Bengals essentially their
headquarters is gonna be kind of where the practice fields are.
They're gonna expand all that out and you're in this
big Bengals green space. It's gonna expand down small park
and go all the way down and and everything looks
really neat, and they're gonna be huge boards on the

(34:54):
outside of the stadium and then they're gonna it's gonna
be connected all vertically up at the top and they're
gonna have you know, it's.

Speaker 4 (35:01):
Everything about it. It looks really really cool.

Speaker 5 (35:04):
We're gonna increase to get in and out off of
the banks, like all the stuff that that are issues
now that you want to see, and it gives it
more usability.

Speaker 3 (35:13):
There's gonna be a nightclub.

Speaker 5 (35:14):
There's there's lots of clubs of different types that can
be used for different club things.

Speaker 4 (35:20):
I mean, yeah, I don't I don't club guy, I
don't know about that.

Speaker 5 (35:22):
I don't know if the nightclub thing survived in that
in that exact language, I understand, but I think you could,
you could if you wanted to. But all of that thing,
I never doubted they could come up with something. It
look really cool and it's great because there was like
an hour and ten minutes of all the renderings.

Speaker 4 (35:38):
And look at this and look at that, and look
what this will be.

Speaker 5 (35:40):
And then they're like, all right, let's call up the
guy from messer and he comes up and he's like, uh,
all right, you're not gonna like this.

Speaker 4 (35:46):
Its one point two five billion dollars.

Speaker 3 (35:49):
I have a good one everybody, and and it was look,
it was that quick.

Speaker 5 (35:52):
It was it was like it was like after an
hour of everything, it was like, well that's gonna cost
one point too.

Speaker 3 (35:57):
Yeah, I mean we've anybody who's a homeowner and has
like added something on, like hey, let's let's get a
new patio done. And it looks great when they do
the rendering this and then the guys like, yeah, so
you know, give or take, here's the estimate. And it's like, well,
I don't think we need a hot tub or you
know what, I'm not sure we need a patio. So
one point twenty five.

Speaker 5 (36:16):
Bill, one point two five bill for that vision, and
that's VISI of that vision.

Speaker 3 (36:21):
Is what is all on us? Bengal's gonna throw in
some coin?

Speaker 5 (36:25):
Well, this is the question right now with the fun
begins of taking that both sides now taking this proposal
and this vision and willing out what what they like,
what the Bengals don't like, what they're willing to pay for,
what they don't want to pay for, how much they
should pay for it, How can they find other people
that can pay for it?

Speaker 4 (36:43):
What is the state going to put in?

Speaker 5 (36:44):
What is all all this is the beginning, like this is, okay,
take this and figure out how it works into the
visions that both teams have.

Speaker 4 (36:53):
And how much that should be.

Speaker 5 (36:55):
And we go down that fun road and see where
it ends up over the next you know, couple of
years until the lease is up, and then both sides
can the lease even further. It can go on forever.
You can still kick kick those leases down a couple
of years.

Speaker 3 (37:07):
At the time, I was listening to the news this
morning on seven hundred WLW, and I had a thought
like I remember this in the mid nineties, Like I
remember the Bengals threatening to move to Baltimore. I'm old
enough to remember that that that is a thing that happened.
But I was like young man, and I'm like, all right, cool,
We're gonna get a new stadium. Gonna be awesome. And
that is like I hear about renderings and how long

(37:30):
this may take. I'm starting to wonder, well I'd be
alive for this. Yeah, I know, so should I care
that much? If there's a chance that I'm not a
depressing it is this way.

Speaker 4 (37:43):
That I choose to live my life.

Speaker 3 (37:45):
If you saw how my morning was going to the
end your podcast, so That's kind of where my head was, like,
am I am? I gonna be alive for this? Here's
what I want to know. Okay, the stadium has been
around for twenty five years, they haven't figured out a
way to consistently have a working escalator, and.

Speaker 4 (38:00):
Now they're gonna have like ten of them.

Speaker 3 (38:03):
Thank you.

Speaker 4 (38:04):
I was so excited.

Speaker 3 (38:05):
I saw that.

Speaker 5 (38:06):
Also, there was a great I need to put this out.
There is a great shot of like all the square
footage and everything that's gonna be added to different areas.
So it had like ten different buckets compartments. Oh well
for this type of stuff, there's gonna be this much
more square foot for admins, this much more. It goes
on in the very bottom and had media press zero,
Like they had to put it on the sheet that

(38:27):
they're not doing anything for us. Make sure you media
know absolutely not keep. I think that means like it
wasn't negative. So maybe I get to keep my cubicle.

Speaker 3 (38:35):
What's nice.

Speaker 4 (38:36):
They'll probably move us across the street.

Speaker 5 (38:37):
I would guess one in this nothing escalator.

Speaker 3 (38:43):
That's it.

Speaker 4 (38:43):
That's it.

Speaker 5 (38:44):
Now there will be ten allegedly, sure, so when so
when three go down, you still have seven.

Speaker 3 (38:49):
I guess that's one way I'm looking at Yeah, well,
I mean.

Speaker 4 (38:54):
I hope that.

Speaker 5 (38:55):
So let's can we increase the cost of the stadium
that includes for like a couple of people that actually
make sure it's working a couple hours before they open
the gates every every game.

Speaker 3 (39:04):
Well, I always feel bad for the poor person who
has to stand there and explain to people that the
escalator isn't working because it's not their fault.

Speaker 4 (39:13):
They didn't break it.

Speaker 3 (39:15):
It is pretty remarkable. Face. All right, Uh, we'll talk to.

Speaker 4 (39:19):
You next week. I will.

Speaker 5 (39:21):
I look forward to it's gonna be. We'll be well,
will be the coming off the Monday night game.

Speaker 3 (39:25):
Yeah, you'll have.

Speaker 5 (39:26):
Everything gets shifted, Everything gets shifted. This everything's all out
of whack. Yeah, we'll figure it out, figure it out.
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four hours ago. We'll hear the best of that coming
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a UC topic. We'll get to that. Rendiman and Jones
on baseball as well. We talked on the Tony and
Mo Football Show yesterday extensively about Jamar Chase. So, Jamar
Chase loses his mind at a critical moment, and I
can understand frustration. I can understand anger. I can understand

(42:35):
the accumulation and the build up of frustration based on,
you know, all the stuff happening with his contract and
all the questions about his future. I really do understand,
and to a degree, I guess can can relate to it.
That doesn't excuse your behavior if your behavior comes with
a cost. There's a difference between he's an emotional player

(42:58):
and he's angry and he's throwing his helmet and we
can understand why he's mad, and and him doing something
that costs his team. Like back in the day when
when the NFL used to not let you do an
end zone celebration. Now they let you do whatever. And
for my money, it has never made sense to me
why a pro sports league wouldn't let players celebrate them

(43:22):
doing something in a game. I never understood why players
weren't allowed to have choreographed end zone celebrations. I still
don't understand why they can't use props. Some of the
coolest end zone touchdown celebrations I've seen included Joe Horn
right and that he broke out a cell phone with
the Saints like twenty years ago, or t O at
the Sharpie. I love that stuff. It's it's a game,

(43:44):
it's entertainment. But you know, back in the day, Chad
Johnson would often get fined and penalized for the end
zone celebrations, and I would complain, and I would complain, Yes,
that there was a rule that made those celebrations penalty worthy,
I guess, but I would also complain that a player
who knew the rule did something that cost his team.

(44:05):
I don't care about the end zone. I think players
should be allowed to do whatever the hell they want.
I'm pro taunting, I'm pro backflip, I'm pro celebration. I'm
pro hanging on, like I level, it's sports, it's fun,
it's entertainment, it's a game. I love all that stuff.
But I do understand that there are parameters and there
are rules. So I'm for players being emotional. I don't

(44:27):
care as a human being that Jamar Chase yelled at
that referee. I do care that he did something that
cost his team fifteen yards, that put his team in
a position where they were less likely to score a
touchdown than they were had he not screamed at the official.

Speaker 4 (44:44):
And this wasn't him.

Speaker 3 (44:46):
If you watch this sport enough, you see these officials
give the players a lot of rope. The leash is
is pretty long. It's not about that. It's about going
back and yelling at the guy. And the I bring
this up is I've seen people make excuses for Jamar.
I've seen people try to rationalize Jamar. First of all,

(45:06):
we all understand this is an emotional game. We understand
this is an emotional sport. We understand that is an
intense rivalry, and we could also understand he felt like
he was wronged in the moment. I don't think it
was a hip drop tackle, but he did, and he
yelled at the ref and he was allowed to do that.
You can't go back. You can't go back, especially when
your quarterback is trying to pull you away.

Speaker 4 (45:27):
You can't do it.

Speaker 3 (45:28):
So do I think he's a bad guy? No, Am,
I worried about this being a behavior that repeats itself.

Speaker 4 (45:37):
Not really.

Speaker 3 (45:38):
I'm gonna defer to Jamar's track record, which I think
that's the first time he has done something on the
field that made me WinCE. I think it's first time
he's done something on the field that resembled that, and
so I'm gonna default to the track record and assume
that we don't see something like that again. But it
was still behavior that subjects himself to very fair criticism,

(45:59):
and it's behavior that you want him to not repeat.
That's not acceptable. Now, if the NFL had no rule
about on sportsmanlike conduct in relation to what you say
to the officials, what you yell at them, what language
you use, how much you go back and scream at
them once you've walked away, I wouldn't care at all

(46:22):
about this. What I care about is the team winning.
Jamar and Chase lessened his team's ability to win the game.
On Sunday. That's not acceptable. Is it forgivable? Yes? Is
it correctable? I'd like to think he can do the correcting.
I don't know how if you're a fan you excuse that.

Speaker 4 (46:38):
Certainly.

Speaker 3 (46:38):
Don't think the coach excused it. Don't believe the quarterback
excused it. Don't think any of his teammates are going
to excuse it. As a fan, you could acknowledge. You
love Jamar, you love everything about him. You love how
he plays, You love the passion that he plays with,
You love the intensity that he plays with. You understand
the frustration that he felt, but also understand that the
behavior that we saw was not accept and it cost

(47:01):
his team. I'm not in favor of anything that cost
the team. What Jamar did cost the team. That can't
be excused. It's got to be corrected. My guess is
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turned fans away from Scott Saderfield. I'm not sure that
beating Miami in the manner that they did is going
to make any of those people come back, but that
when did make me change my mind about something. And
because I'm a glass half full guy, I'm gonna be
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We're giving away Bengals Commanders tickets for Monday night football. Meanwhile,
as the Bengals get set for Monday, the Bearcats are
getting set for their first Big twelve game, a tilt
and home against Houston on Saturday. A badly needed win
for the Bearcats against Miami, a needed, badly needed win
for Scott Saderfield, I think, to a large degree, a

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badly needed victory for the fan base Bearcats played well,
they didn't play well enough to really put the game
away until Nathan Hawks, by the way, a terrific story,
making the second of his two fifty plus yard field
goal attempts to ice the game. Bearcats had a couple

(50:02):
of opportunities to get off the field up by two touchdowns,
could not, and they obviously had the touchdown that I
was going to say it was called back. It never
really was a touchdown where Joe Royer fumbled and they
had the eighty yard touchdown to Royer that got called back.
And so a lot of opportunities to a lot of
moments in that game that quite frankly kind of felt
like the game against Pittsburgh. But they ultimately do win

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the game by eleven points. You see in Houston on Saturday,
first Big twelve game of the season for the Bearcats,
a knew at Nippert Stadium. Scott Sadderfield chatted with the
assembled college football media earlier today.

Speaker 8 (50:37):
You know, really happy about the win, but we've moving
on moving on to Houston.

Speaker 12 (50:41):
It's you know, Willie Fritz is an outstanding football coach.
I mean I didn't realize he's been a head coach.
This is his thirty second year as a head coach.
Just a lot of years been a head coach. He's
been successful everywhere he's ever been. His teams always are
in the game. They play hard, they're coached well, they
where they're supposed to be. He's done an outstanding job.
You know, this team defensively is one of the better

(51:02):
defense in the country, on the top fifteen in a
lot of categories. And you know, for the first year,
Sheieldwood's done a great job with their defense. You know, offensively,
you know, statistically not as good, but they can't run
the football. They got a lot of speed outside at
wide receiver, quarterbacks, played a lot of ball.

Speaker 8 (51:21):
He's really big guy.

Speaker 12 (51:22):
We know he can run. He's got a big time
arm as well, so you know, we know. And in
the return game, man, it really stands out.

Speaker 4 (51:29):
You know, you look at the.

Speaker 12 (51:30):
Punk returner kick returner. They have a really good return
game in a special team. So, you know, a great
challenge this week against Houston coming in Big twelve opener.
We're excited about it and I need to feel nippered
and then have everybody there and cheering his own.

Speaker 3 (51:45):
Man.

Speaker 8 (51:45):
It's a big time game obviously for the Big Twelve.

Speaker 13 (51:50):
How difficult was that decision at place kicker because Carter
had a great year last year, a little bit of
a little bit of a bump this year. But how
difficult was that And how did everybody handle kind of
making the switch there?

Speaker 12 (52:02):
Yeah, I mean it's never easy to make a change
when particularly when someone's been at that position for a while.
And Carter, you know, did had a great season last year,
you know, kick this all season, had had some injuries
during camp. It's where I think Nathan really started to show,
you know, because he wasn't Carter wasn't out there. So
Nathan's kicking a lot and and doing a really nice job.
And then of course Carter comes back, you know, and

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he's he's been he's been good, and you know, so
it's tough to make the change. I mean, ob was
the easy thing to do is just say, you know, Carter,
keep going, will work you out of the slump. But
I mean we felt like, you know, in this game
against Miami, you we're gonna need to make some field goals,
you know, looking back at last year and we knew,
you know, they were stingy defense in.

Speaker 4 (52:40):
The red zones.

Speaker 8 (52:41):
So we're gonna have to make some field goals, and
so you know, let's see what let's see what he
can do.

Speaker 4 (52:45):
And he did a great job.

Speaker 12 (52:46):
Obviously, I didn't know the first kick, which had to
be a fifty five yarder. I mean, that's that's a
little tough to be you have your first one there.
But he nailed it right down the middle, and I
think that certainly relaxed him and he felt great after that.
And then you know, people don't talk about the second
one as much. That was a huge kick, I mean,
and it's an eight point game.

Speaker 4 (53:01):
We missed that right there.

Speaker 8 (53:02):
Now they've got an opportunity to go tie the ball
game up.

Speaker 12 (53:04):
And then now making that obviously made it a two
score So a huge kick to be able to knock
that down. And you know, he's kicking with great confidence
right now we all know as a kicker, I mean,
that's what it takes.

Speaker 14 (53:15):
Big plays from Joe Royer and having Pryor in the game,
and some of them counted the Are you getting what
you expected out of those guys when you know they
were big transfers and have they delivered in the way
you thought that they would, you.

Speaker 8 (53:31):
Know, I mean they have you know, we felt we've
been talking about Joe a lot.

Speaker 12 (53:36):
We think he's one of the better tight ends out there,
you know, with his size and speed and catching ability
and also can block, so defenses they know where he's at,
they're going to have to know where he's at. He
also helps free up few the wideouts as well. So
I think he's added a ton to our offense. You know,
Prior has been a great you know kind of that
one two, that two punch, you know, outside of Cory Uh,

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he's got to speed, you know, I mean, shoot the
two two touchdowns over thirty over sixty yards now in
three games, and that's incredible. So and I think where
that is where he excels is when he gets an
opportunity allen the perimeter to be able to run by people.

Speaker 8 (54:10):
That's when he's really good.

Speaker 12 (54:11):
You know, we haven't seen it yet, but he does
have excellent hands. I think he's a good receiver of
the backfield. We have not thrown it to him in
that regard, but I think he can add to that
as well. But they're both are outstanding players for US.

Speaker 3 (54:27):
Scott sanderfield earlier today you see in Houston on Saturday
more tonight on The Scott Saderfield Show. Eight o'clock airs
tonight on ESPN fifteen thirty. The Nathan Hawks story is
pretty neat, and if you're a longtime Bearcat fan, it's
kind of a callback to Jason Mamarelli, who once upon

(54:48):
a time kicked a game winning field goal against Syracuse
when he had barely been used. Nathan Hawks came to
Cincinnati from Wittenberg. He was a kicker for Wittenberg, where
in his two years he attempted all of four field goals.
He made all four. He's also a kid who kind
of stumbled into kicking accidentally. I was talking with him today.

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He's going to be with Dan Hord on the pregame
show on Saturday afternoon or Saturday morning.

Speaker 4 (55:14):
But he was in the eighth grade.

Speaker 3 (55:16):
He was on the basketball team at his high school
and their weightlifting session was being run by the football coaches,
and so they had sort of this competitive series of
things that they had the basketball players do and one
of them was kick and Nathan it turned out he
was quite the kicker, so that's how he got into kicking.
Obviously played soccer as well and drills. His first two

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both in big situations, both beyond fifty yards and the
last one sealing the game. There was a lot of
talk this offseason the UC Miami rivalry is on the
verge of being discontinued after the twenty twenty six season,
and my initial reaction was, big deal, shoulder shrun right.

(56:00):
It's not a game that it feels like anybody really
looks forward to. It's not a game that really has
a lot of punch and a lot of sizzle, and
so if it goes away, it goes away. There's obviously
also been some talk in recent days, recent weeks about
Cincinnati and Miami playing on a regular basis, but not
on every year basis, and perhaps on a neutral site

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every couple of years. Admitting that it took UC losing
the game last year to add some punch. This year's
rivalry had some punch, and you know, look over the
course of the probably the last half of that sixteen
game winning streak that Cincinnati had in the series. In

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most years, we expected a relatively non competitive game. We
expected UC to win. It didn't feel like the rivalry
itself had a lot of juice. And then Miami won
and one at nipperd stadium, and this year because it
was going to be a jager, it kind of felt
like not only did the game have some juice in
terms of the crowd, it felt like the Bearcat players

(57:05):
really leaned into it, which is not insignificant given the
fact that they got like close to four dozen dudes
who weren't part of the program last year. And say
what you want about this coaching staff, and there's a
lot of fair criticism that has been aimed at it,
it did feel to me like the coaching staff, perhaps
simply because they lost last year, leaned into the rivalry.

(57:28):
The Miami game from a UC perspective, is not going
to be replaced by Kentucky or Louisville or pitt or
a major P four school. Now. The plan for UC
moving forward, Chad has talked about this a lot on
his podcast Chad Rendel is every year to play an
FCS school, which they did this year in Towson, to

(57:51):
play a school from a Power four league, which they
did this year in Pittsburgh, and then a school from
a Group of five conference, which they did this year
in Miami. Did the same thing last year going to Pittsburgh,
but Miami coming here next year, the replacing Miami essentially
at home with Bowling Green Terrence Bowling Green Falcons. And
So if that's what you're going to do, and there's

(58:13):
gonna be a G five school on the schedule every
single year, what's wrong with having Miami be that G
five school every three or four years, especially if everyone's
going to lean into the rivalry. I don't see anything
wrong with that at all. I can understand U see
not wanting to go to Yeager Stadium. I could also
understand from Miami's perspective going like, yeah, you want to

(58:33):
play us, but we only come to your spot. Like,
uh uh, We're not going to do that. So if
every three or four years those two schools played at
a neutral site, and because it's not an every year thing,
maybe there's a little bit more juice in the in
the rivalry and in the game and surrounding it. I

(58:54):
don't think that's a bad thing at all. Like, you're
not you're not replacing Miami with some powerhouse. USC's not
coming to in nippert Staium. They're not replacing Miami with
Ohio State. They're replacing Miami with schools from the MAC
and from the AAC and from Conference USA. So again
from a Bearcat perspective, if that game every couple of

(59:15):
years is on a neutral site and you don't have
to go on the road, and it involves a historical rival,
especially if the RedHawks and Chuck Martin's done a good
job there, they can keep competing for MAC titles. I
don't know why you wouldn't be okay with that. As
a Bearcat fan, I'm okay with that. It's a four
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They are hosting the Atlanta Braves at GABP, first of
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eight that is on ESPN fifteen thirty. We did this
last year. If you're a baseball fan in this community,
if you're a Reds fan in this community, then you
know of the great work done by the people who
put on the Knucksaw Miracle League, the Joe Nuxsaw Miracle League. Well,
there's a group of folks they've done this now for

(01:02:45):
a couple of years. They walk from Fairfield to GABP,
which is like more than twenty miles, and they do
this in an effort to support kids who have special needs.
And they also do this to celebrate the left Cany
of Joe Knucksall and so twenty one miles specifically from
Fairfield to GABP supporting the Joe Knucksaw Miracle League fields

(01:03:08):
and one of the walkers is with us, I think
for a second consecutive year. I don't know if he's
closed to the ballpark yet. I'm sure he's tired. Ben outo, Ben,
what is going on?

Speaker 15 (01:03:20):
What's going on?

Speaker 5 (01:03:20):
Though?

Speaker 3 (01:03:22):
Where are you.

Speaker 15 (01:03:24):
Right now? Apparently six seventeen Byne Street, so I'm at
the cost. Yeah, yeah, we checked in here. It took
a little shower, so I'm fresh clean. My feet are
not feeling too well, but we're twenty miles down. We
got about a mile to go here.

Speaker 9 (01:03:40):
Less than that.

Speaker 15 (01:03:41):
I'm forty eight thousand steps in since we've stepped off
from the Joe Nutsaw League, Miracle Fields and Fairfield this morning,
and we're ready. We got the game ball the Reds
gave us this morning. So the ball you're talking about
Brandon Williamson taking a night, He's going to start with
the ball that we put on the mountain right before
the game.

Speaker 3 (01:03:56):
All right, you answered my first question, which was are
you counting steps? So from the Knuxsall Miracle Fields in
Fairfield to where you are right now, forty eight thousand steps,
How are you feeling?

Speaker 15 (01:04:07):
Yes, sir, My right pinky toes a bit of an issue.
I might have to see if the Reds training staff
can sew me up potentially, But you feel great.

Speaker 16 (01:04:16):
You know.

Speaker 15 (01:04:17):
The community it's amazing today, Like I can't even put
into where's the gratitude we have for everyone? That's We've
got so many hawks today, We've got so many donations
for our calls today. We're feeling good spiritually. I think
we're a little beat up but we're there. We're rounding
third heading for home, as Joe would say, and we're
excited to get down to gapp here in.

Speaker 4 (01:04:37):
A couple of minutes.

Speaker 3 (01:04:38):
All right, what time did you start this morning?

Speaker 15 (01:04:41):
We took off So we received the game ball this
morning at six am and stepped out out of the
Miracle League field. So we got the ball on the
Miracle League mound six am and we're gonna put it
on the DApp mound probably around six thirty pms.

Speaker 3 (01:04:55):
All right, so I know how to drive from the
Nuxsaw Miracle Fields to GA. That's a pretty right what's
the what's the walking route?

Speaker 9 (01:05:05):
Okay?

Speaker 15 (01:05:06):
Yeah, loocy, you know, we're just taking one twenty seven
out of Fairfield. Uh We We kind of cruised through
Mount Healthy there and shout out to Brotherton's band the restaurant.
They really set us up nicely there. We we took
a took our, took a seat there, had had a
little meal. Then we hit Tickle Pickle down the north side.
After going through North College Hill, we got down in
the North side and then made their way down to

(01:05:27):
Central uh you know Central Parkway, took that you know,
right by Cincinnati State there and then all the way
kind of through OTR to Washington Park and then now
we're sitting here downtown like taking what a day?

Speaker 3 (01:05:39):
You know. Yeah, you made that sound easier that it
than it actually was.

Speaker 15 (01:05:43):
Though, right, Yeah, I think no really honestly, Like if
it was just us doing this for no reason, I
think we've pretty doubt about it. But for the cause, uh,
you know, we're we have the ability to do this,
We have legs that work. We're doing this for people
that that need a place to play sports. The Jo
Nuff Almerica League field. Anybody with any ability at any

(01:06:06):
age can play baseball there. What we want we're trying
to raise awareness for something called the Hope Center. It's
going to be an indoor facility twenty eight thousand square feet.
It's gonna cost a lot of money, but we want
to give them a chance to play indoors year round.
So right now it's seasonal, but we wanted to play
year round basketball, volleyball, bowling, everything. So that's what we're doing.

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And because of that, I think we're feeling pretty good
about ourselves.

Speaker 3 (01:06:29):
Yeah, no, it is. It is truly the Lord's work,
and you're to be commended. Have have people joined you? Is?
How many of you are there?

Speaker 9 (01:06:38):
Yeah?

Speaker 15 (01:06:38):
Yeah, So like three years ago I did this like
a weird, crazy idea and I don't know how it
took off what it did. So today we had eight people.
Eight people did this with me today, so including my
lovely wife Laura. So we did this all together. We
started off with nine. We lost one down the road,
but then we actually out of Fairfield, we had like

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twenty something people do the first two miles with us,
so police escort and all that. So like it's really
kind of taken off. I don't know how, but we'll
take it. You know, anything we can do to raise
money for the field.

Speaker 3 (01:07:10):
Yeah. Now, if I've got folks listening and they want
to help out, they want to help your mission, but
they don't want to walk twenty plus miles.

Speaker 4 (01:07:18):
What can they do?

Speaker 15 (01:07:20):
The best thing you can do go to Nutsawmiracle League
dot org slash walk. Nutsallmercle League dot org. Slash walk
will take you to a page that tells you all
about us, and it also has a link to a
GoFundMe where you can donate to our calls. You can
also just share that page with anybody spread the word again,

(01:07:41):
we put a lot of work in today. We're hoping
to reach our goal of ten thousand dollars to raise
today and we're a couple thousand away. So hopefully once
we get to the park and people hear about this,
maybe they'll get us there. I think we put the
work in.

Speaker 9 (01:07:52):
We hope we get there.

Speaker 3 (01:07:54):
Well, when you get to the game, you're gonna deliver
the game ball, which is awesome. Then the game starts,
so you're gonna stand or sit.

Speaker 15 (01:08:01):
I will be seated in Section one eleven with about
thirty three others, you know, thanks to Zach Bonkowski down
the Reds.

Speaker 9 (01:08:08):
Hooking this up.

Speaker 15 (01:08:09):
So yeah, we'll go right on the field. We'll lay
that ball. We'll have the ball in my hand, we
will lay it on the mound, and then we'll go
up and have a seat. I might have a couple
of pops. Yeah, take my feet up and enjoy the
baseball game. And we're undefeated when we walk to the game.

Speaker 3 (01:08:23):
So oh, okay, going good do you? And then when
the game's over, do you have to walk back.

Speaker 15 (01:08:29):
The heck No, I'm not walking for a while. I'm
gonna work tomorrow to be frank, I'm gonna go to
get a massage and take care of my feet.

Speaker 3 (01:08:38):
Uh deservedly so well, I'm glad you got good weather
for it. It was a little overcast so the sun
wasn't beating down on you. We didn't have rain, which
we haven't had rain in like two months. But it's
very cool and we we love the work that you
guys do. It truly is as I said, it's it's
the Lord's work. And the opportunities you provide for children

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to play baseball, play sports, participate, have fun is truly awesome.
And I know it's going to continue, and I know
I know Joe would be proud, So we'll do it
again next year. Enjoy the game tonight, and thanks so much.

Speaker 15 (01:09:16):
Yeah, I appreciate the time.

Speaker 3 (01:09:17):
Go Red anytime you got at ben Otto one of
he said, eight people walking from Fairfield. I get tired
walking to my mailbox for my front step twenty one
miles from Fairfield to a GABP delivering the game ball tonight,
Reds and Braves, first of a three game series Bengals.

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By the way, they made it official. Lawrence guy who
played his college ball at Arizona State, and he is
a guy who has bounced around Colts, Chargers, Ravens, Patriots.
He's played in a lot of postseason games, obviously, with
all that time with New England before they frankly started
to stink. Lawrence Guy signs. kJ Henry waived. He was
the player fired from Washington. It's interesting they they wave

(01:10:02):
them before they play the Commanders. We'll see if uh
there's another roster move with him down the road. kJ
Henry waived. Sedrick Jackson has been released wide receiver from
the practice squad, so UH perhaps can stash kJ on
the practice squad this week. But Lawrence Guy signed obviously.
With Sheldon Rankins and BJ Hill, they are insanely thin

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upfront with a good running back and a very good
running quarterback coming to town on Monday. Our numbers are
five one, three, seven, four nine, fifteen thirty eight six
six seven two three, seven, seven six. There was a
moment in that game on Sunday, even though the Bengals lost,
that I think we should mentally circle. We'll get to
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they're short handed at running back after Isaiah Pacheco's injury.

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Suffered a broken fibula on Sunday, and according to ESPN,
Miami quarterback two at Tengabailoa is headed to injured reserve,
where he'll have to miss a minimum of four games
after suffering another concussion that happened on Thursday night and
obviously trigger triggered a lot of conversations, including one from
his college head coach Nick Sabd on game day on Saturday,

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as to whether or not he should retire. We'll get
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how the Bengals can still get back to the postseason.
I said something last week. I don't know if it
was Wednesday or Thursday. Sometimes the days all kind of
blend together, and I talked about the Chiefs game, and look,

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the obvious outcome we all wanted was like a thirty
eight to seven steam rolling of the Chiefs where Joe
Burrow throws five touchdown passes and we see the full
capability of the offense, and they keep Joe upright and defensively,
they impose their will and they bottle up Patrick Mahomes
and they're not bad against the run. We all knew

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the game was going to be a little bit more
difficult than that. We all knew it was probably going
to be a close game either way. What we didn't
know is which Joe is going to show up in case,
because the Joe we saw the week before against New
England didn't look like the old Joe, the Joe that
we all love, the Joe who's an MVP candidate, the
Joe who has rescued this franchise in so many ways,

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And so were we going to see that guy? And
if we saw something closer to that guy? I don't
think I ever claimed the result of the game was irrelevant,
but it would at least soften the blow, and frankly,
would be more preferable if the Bengals lost and Joe
looked like Joe than if Joe played poorly and the

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Bengals eked out a win. Now, I asked a poll
question on X last week thanks to United Heartland Insurance,
and we do have a poll question to get to
for today's show in a bit, But I asked, of
these two choices, which would be the preferred outcome on
some a Bengals looks like a Burrow looks like he
did against the Pats, struggles Bengals somehow eke out a

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gnarly looking win. Or b Burrow plays great, looks good,
seems comfortable, throws passes beyond ten yards with frequency. Bengals
still lose. Now, I was in the minority because thirty
six point five percent said the preferable outcome would be
Burrough plays awesome, Bengals still lose. I agreed with the minority.

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Now again wanted them to win. From an emotional standpoint,
it was an absolute gut punch loss. Mechanically speaking, you're
basically three games behind Kansas City, and in a year
that's about the Bengals winning a title, you can't help
but talk about where they are in relation to the
best teams in the conference, and where they are in

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relation to the defending Super Bowl champions, and in relation
to a team that you've had to go on the
road and play the last time, last two times you
have made the playoffs, and if the Bengals have to
go to Kansas City, Let's say those two teams end
up with the same record and Kansas City wins the
head to head tiebreaker, whether you're gonna look back at

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the game week two and a lot of moments in
that game that you go back and revisit. But beyond that,
what I wanted on Sunday was a quarterback who looked
more like himself. Joe wasn't great, and you can't have
your quarterback fumble. You can't have your quarterback fumble and
have it run back for a go ahead touchdown. And
that's on Joe and he wasn't perfect. But I didn't

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watch him and think to myself, God, he's not comfortable,
or man, he's only willing to throw it, you know,
three to five yards beyond the line of scrimmage. It
wasn't the most explosive offense. Having t Higgins back hopefully
on Monday, will certainly help. But number one, they did
tap into some things that I think you could use

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moving forward. There was the Jermaine Burton play. There was
Mike Kasicki's production. I agree with what Paul Danner Junior
said before. Eric All is going to be a player
and is going to be I think a boost to
this offense this year. I think we still are all
counting on Jamar Chase having a very productive season. But

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more than anything, against New England, I saw a quarterback
it just looked like he was unwilling to throw it downfield,
looked uncomfortable, looked on sure of himself. Maybe that's not
solely a byproduct of coming off surgery. Maybe it had
something to do with the game plan that the Patriots played.
Maybe it had something to do with lack of confidence
in Trent Brown or one of the other offensive lineman,

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whatever it was. But beyond losing the game, the big
takeaway on the Monday after that Patriots game was, Oh, boy,
that's not the Joe that I know. That's a Joe.
That's a Joe who might not yet be himself. But
if him not being himself looks like that, this team's
in trouble. The Joe that I watched on Sunday against

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Kansas City was not vintage Joe Borrow against Kansas City
last year, or I'm sorry, against Kansas City in twenty
twenty one, or San Francisco last year. Wasn't the MVP finalist.
But he's a pretty damn good quarterback and efficient quarterback,
a quarterback who looked comfortable, a quarterback who looked willing
to make a player two with his legs. He did

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run for that one first down and was all pumped
up about that. I didn't watch Joe thinking, uh oh,
why is he not doing this or why is he
not comfortable doing that? And within the framework of the
game itself, that was the most important thing. That was
the most important development if you're a Bengals fan, and

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you might say was the most important development beyond the
win or the loss, And yeah, I get it. Man,
starting oh to two sucks. They can't keep doing it.
They're playing with fire. If this is gonna be their
thing every year, every year they start zero and two, well,
guess what, sometime they're gonna start zero to three and
then they're really gonna be behind the eight ball. They
cannot keep doing and it's gonna be the biggest talking

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point of next training camp. How can they finally avoid
the oh and two starts? But the biggest talking point
after the first game of the count of this year
was why does Joe not look himself? This franchise, this
team goes nowhere if Joe doesn't look like himself. Against
Kansas City, he looked more like himself, which tells me
that against Washington, he'll look even more like himself. And

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then against Carolina, in a game they should win forty
five to seven, he'll look even more like himself. And
that's what we wanted. And if I get those things,
they can overcome that loss. That's why I said on
yesterday's show, the Bengals are they're going to be okay.
Not they're gonna go thirteen and four. Not they're they're
gonna win the super Bowl. They're going to be okay

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because of the step that Joe took against Casey. That
was the most important thing in a game filled with stuff,
In a game filled with moments you could second guess,
starting on the first drive to go forward or not
go forward on fourth and goal, the Jamar Chase issue
later on when he throws a temper tantrum, the different

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moments in the game that sent the game in one
direction or the other. Burrows fumble, the fourth and sixteen,
the defensive play call, the personnel on the field, the
call by the official. All of that stuff matters. Nothing
mattered more from a Bengals perspective than how did Joe look.

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Joe looked all right, which is why I have a
hard time. I'm disappointed that they lost. Man, trust me,
and I don't know how you're not. But it's you know,
you get told well, there are no moral victories. I
believe in moral victories. I believe in context. Applying some
context is not a moral victory. Applying context means you

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saw how Joe played week one, You saw how Joe
played week two. You understand his and this team's track
record of coming back from zero to two. You look
at the schedule and see how forgiving it is the
coming weeks, and you feel pretty damn good. That's where
I am. I think it's where you should be. And
you could tell me if I'm wrong. Five win, three, seven, four, nine,
fifteen thirty is our phone number. We have not gotten

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the phone calls today. But it's it's not moral victory.
It's it's not while they stood toe to toe with
the chiefs, what I cared about more than anything else,
and what matters more than anything else. Look, Bengal's got
to fix a lot of stuff.

Speaker 10 (01:22:25):
Right.

Speaker 3 (01:22:26):
They're awful against the run. That's probably not going to
get dramatically better. How do they account for the loss
of Rankins and Hill? What do they do up front
if you missed it. They signed Lawrence Guy, who's played forever,
played forever with the Patriots, fourteenth year NFL player. He'll
plug a spot. I'm not sure how good he's going
to be. They got to be better against the run.

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They gotta get T Higgins back. I would prefer to
see more of Chase Brown than Zach Moss right now.
I'm not entirely convinced the offensive line is what we
want it to be. I hope to God a Marius
Mims can play sometime soon. There's a lot The thing
that matters most is the play, the health, the comfort

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and the availability of number nine. Those things were better
against Kansas City than they were against New England. And
as long as that was the case, as long as
there are still fifteen games remaining on the calendar, and frankly,
as long as the schedule gives them some games that
frankly they really should win, nothing else really matters, including

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the fact that they lost the football game. You might
not like to hear that, You might not agree. Oh look,
I understand. For a lot of folks, it's all about
the outcome. And hopefully the Bengals are playing in January,
where All that matters is the outcome, right, I don't
think Game two of the season is about that. I
don't think Game two of the season is solely about

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the outcome. When your quarterback looked as bad and as
uncomfortable as he did in the first game, he didn't
look bad and uncomfortable in the second game. So yeah,
the outcome mattered. The outcome sucked. The outcome was a
gut punch. The outcome could have been different had any
number of things gone differently. The outcome certainly triggered fair
second guessing of the coaching staff and specifically lou Anarrumo.

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But beyond the outcome, the thing that I wanted to
see I saw, which is why I think the Bengals
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Speaker 3 (01:25:16):
We just gave away a Bengals whitty and I think
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We still have tickets of the game on Monday to
give away if you get here to be Dubs in
Anderson before six o'clock. A week ago, at this time,
we had on with this Sean Sayed from Summer Sports,
who writes and it's very good, the Monday Morning Mashup column,

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which is, you know, a series of thoughts and analysis
from everything that happened around the NFL. And we had
a chance to have him on and he was excellent.
We talked about the Bengals Patriots game, and I thought, God,
you know what, I like it when smart people come
on our show and make me smarter and say smart things.
And so I condem into joining us every single week.

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So you should go read his column. If you haven't
seen it, go find it at Summer sports dot com.
I've retweeted it. I've put a link out there on
X as well. Sean is on X at say ed
Schemes and kind enough to join us on a weekly basis.
I hope you're okay doing this because by like the
middle of the season, you're gonna find me pretty annoying.

Speaker 18 (01:26:21):
No, I'm so glad that you're having me back on.

Speaker 16 (01:26:24):
I think that the Bengals have just such an interesting
story to be written ahead of them.

Speaker 18 (01:26:29):
And now I would have liked to come on after
a win, but you know this is not that week,
and hopefully next one will be.

Speaker 3 (01:26:36):
Yeah, So like, dive into the nuts and bolts of
the Kansas City game for me, because you know, we've
a lot of stuff goes into that game. It's a
huge rivalry, there's a lot of emotional stuff people here
reacting with emotion to fourth and sixteen and Jamar Chase.
I want to do this a little bit more analytically.
First of all, the Bengals have not been good against
the run. We went into the season thinking they were

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not gonna be good against the run. They're probably gonna
be worse against the run because they lose two defensive tackles. Uh,
why are they so bad against the run?

Speaker 16 (01:27:07):
Well, Mo, sometimes you just need big guys inside to
make plays and really take on multiple blockers at the
same time to help your linebackers out. So I'm really
really concerned for this run defense because, as you said,
you are already thin at that defensive line position. Now
you lose more players there and it makes everyone's life
harder if you can't stop the run. Starting from the inside,

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the linebackers have to now deal with the guard.

Speaker 18 (01:27:31):
Kind of running at them. Now you're asking for a.

Speaker 16 (01:27:34):
Safety to get into the box and make a tackle
when you'd probably want that player in coverage anyway. So
it is it's a tough situation, and you hope that
they're able to be a team where you know you're
playing from out in front enough.

Speaker 18 (01:27:46):
That some of those run game issues maybe get covered
up a bit.

Speaker 3 (01:27:49):
So, and yet you wrote the defense is trending in
the right direction. That tells me you like the back
end of that defense. Why is it trending in the
right direction.

Speaker 16 (01:28:00):
I was really happy with what Luena Roumo put on
tape in this game. They did a good job closing
those windows in zone coverage, you get an interception, you
disguise things just a bit on the back end, and no,
they held the Chiefs to one of eight on third down.
And then you have Trey Hendrickson who almost won the
game single handedly. So I think that the run game

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issues are gonna be looked at consistently, probably by us.

Speaker 18 (01:28:25):
From a week to week basis.

Speaker 16 (01:28:27):
But it was great to see an example of a
team that was able to play so well on the
back end to limit Patrick Mahomes to one hundred and
fifty one yards and throwing the ball like on an
average of three yards down the field. I think that's
the situation where you can be encouraged even if you
have some issues with the run defense.

Speaker 3 (01:28:45):
So and then there's the pass rush. Trey Hendrickson was unbelievable.
He's been good here for quite a while. He was
otherworldly on Sunday. We go into a game thinking he's
gonna win up front, he's gonna win his share of battles,
and if he he's going to get to the quarterback.
It's not really coming from anywhere. Else Where can it
come from?

Speaker 16 (01:29:07):
You know, it might be a situation where you have
to now send a linebacker every once in a while.

Speaker 18 (01:29:13):
Maybe you move Hendrickson around the formation to just manipulate
the matchup.

Speaker 16 (01:29:16):
I mean, he was so good that the Chiefs literally
had to go to their second tackle in that position.
So you hope that you can just get enough there
because I'm not one hundred percent sure where it.

Speaker 18 (01:29:28):
Will come from. Again, maybe it's that you decide to
I mean, you have to send a blitz every once
in a while.

Speaker 16 (01:29:33):
But I know that lou Henroumo is creative in the
way that he sends pressure, but he also wants to
do some fun stuff in coverage.

Speaker 3 (01:29:41):
Yeah, Sean Sayet is with us sumer Sports Monday Morning
mashup column.

Speaker 4 (01:29:45):
Go read it.

Speaker 3 (01:29:46):
You'll be smarter offensively. Look a week ago, you and
I were trying to figure out if if Joe Burrow
is okay. I walked away from the Kansas City game
feeling pretty good about him his comfort level. They did
more offensively from a a game planning, from a schematic perspective,
what did you see against Kansas City that was missing
against New England.

Speaker 16 (01:30:06):
I thought that one of the biggest things right away
that you saw was they used motion on seventy percent
of the snaps, which would have been the most in
the entire Zach Taylor era.

Speaker 18 (01:30:16):
And I think that is a really good thing.

Speaker 16 (01:30:18):
It's not that, oh, you send a guy in motion
and now you're automatically kind of a modern fancy offense.
But if you're using it to help create an advantage
for your player running outside, or if you're trying to
move players around and play with the defense's eyes just
a bit.

Speaker 18 (01:30:32):
So from a schematic perspective, you.

Speaker 16 (01:30:33):
Get that, you get some Jamar Chase in the slot,
you get him in the backfield, and it felt like
they are clearly doing things in that part of the game.
And then some of the past concepts were just ones
that I just liked them a little bit more because
they let Joe Burrow kind of work from the left
side of the field to the right side of the field.

Speaker 18 (01:30:51):
He can kind of scan everything and be comfortable there.

Speaker 16 (01:30:53):
So from a schematic perspective, it's not the most you know,
schematic forward offense.

Speaker 18 (01:30:58):
In the entire league.

Speaker 16 (01:30:59):
But you don't have to do when you have players
like Joe Burrow liked Jamar Chase and I mean no,
we have to be realsic. The most important thing here
was that Burrow looked a lot better, and he is
certainly looking good enough to be able to make a difference.
And so it's so hard to be the Hey guys,
moral victory. I know that Cincinnati don't want to hear it,
but they chalked a big wn the moral win column

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for me.

Speaker 3 (01:31:23):
Well, but they did, you know, I don't. I don't
love the term moral victory. I just to me, it's
context right, in the context of that game. I was
looking for a more comfortable, better, more Joe Burrow esque
Joe Burrow. I got that. I wish they would have
won the game. But with fifteen weeks to spare, a
soft schedule ahead, T Higgins hopefully coming back the weapons,

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they have the most important box that needed to be
checked on Sunday, God checked. I can live with that.

Speaker 16 (01:31:49):
Yeah, And it's going to be so important where you
look ahead to two games that this team should be
able to win. And I thought that the Chiefs did
a lot of fun things on the defense side where
they were comfortable getting two players onto Jamar Chase because
the Bengals didn't have T Higgins. But now again Jermaine Burton,
who had that really really nice play on a deep

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throw from Burrow that was awesome. You have Mikeasicki who's emerging,
and so it feels like an offense that is coming together.

Speaker 18 (01:32:17):
That answered some of our questions from last week. And
now look the margin for error. E's their thing going forward.

Speaker 16 (01:32:24):
You cannot fall to oh and three front teams that
started own two two in the last five years and
made the playoffs.

Speaker 18 (01:32:30):
But I still feel like the Bengals can become the
third team to do it.

Speaker 3 (01:32:33):
All right, I want to. I want to hold them
up against the rest of the field of zero to
two team. Sean said with his for another couple of minutes.
You know you you talked about what they did offensively,
and here's where my mind went to on Sunday. So
hopefully T Higgins comes back and he stays healthy. We
know what T Higgins can do, we know what Jamar
Chase can do. We also know what kind of cheat

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code a really good tight end can be. And it
feels like the Bengals suddenly have a bunch of them
and watching them use that position maybe a little bit
too much, but watching them use that position knowing what
else they should be able to do. This is more
of a comment than it is a question that to
me was intriguing. As I watched the playoffense against Kansas City.

Speaker 16 (01:33:16):
I loved it because you have weapons at every single
spot when you get Higgins back there. Now as a defense,
I literally do not know what to do, like can
I close every single window. I'm not comfortable with all
my one on ones on the outside when you have
chasing Higgins going and now I don't even want to
play comfortable in the middle of the field where Burrow
was comfortable hitting get Sicky going across that area. It's

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just a huge conundrum for teams where I think they're
gonna look to take the air out in the game
and run the ball snap after snap, because when Burrow's
playing like that and the way that all these guys
are coming together, there's just nothing that defenses are going
to be able to do.

Speaker 3 (01:33:55):
So you talked about all the zero to two teams.
The Bengals have company. They have company in their own division.
Baltimore not now some of the teams that have not
won a game through the first two weeks. It's not
a surprise. Denver, the Giants, Carolina, and then you know
there's a team. LA is a mass unit, nobody's healthy.
Jacksonville is maybe a little eyebrow raising. I'm not sure

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it's stunning Baltimore and Cincinnati. Should I feel better as
a Bengals fan than I would if I was a
Ravens fan or vice versa.

Speaker 18 (01:34:27):
That is a really good question.

Speaker 9 (01:34:29):
So for the Ravens, they have issues.

Speaker 18 (01:34:31):
On their offensive line. They don't have dominant pass catchers.

Speaker 16 (01:34:35):
They lost a ton of just brain trust throughout that organization,
and then they don't have Mike McDonald calling plays there
anymore on the defensive side, so they kind of falter
at multiple positions. And when you think about the Bengals,
that's compared to last year. Of course, they don't have
Higgins out there yet, but there is so much that
is able to stay the same from the year every year.

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If I was just coin flip and choose one, I
would choose the Bengals right now, and I think that
in a few weeks we're going to get a Bengals
team that's two and two and play Baltimore and we
we'll be able to get our answer. And you know,
I'm fine if I'm wrong there, But looking ahead, I
do think the Bengals have a comfortable schedule where they
should feel good and look even in the AFC North.

Speaker 15 (01:35:15):
Of course, the Stealers are two and zero.

Speaker 16 (01:35:17):
And their defense is incredible, but I think the Bengals
are going to be able to beat that type of
team as well. So as a Bengals watcher now, I
would feel more comfortable there just because of what's the
specific issues with this team, which is, hey, let's get
see Higgins fact there, let's get Jamar Chase going.

Speaker 18 (01:35:35):
And we have to deal with the run on defense,
whereas the Ravens have some issues on defense, that issue at.

Speaker 16 (01:35:40):
The offensive line that it feels like those who can
compound over time.

Speaker 3 (01:35:45):
Give me give me forty five seconds on Washington, because
when we were talking about the season before it started,
my thought regarding them was that's maybe not a team
that I would want to play in December, but I'm
happy to play them in September. Obviously, you worry about
the Bengals stopping anybody on the ground. So Brian Robinson's
a big deal, Jaydon Daniel's a big deal.

Speaker 8 (01:36:06):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (01:36:07):
Where does Washington pose a threat as they try to
avoid going zero to three?

Speaker 16 (01:36:12):
I think the run game is certainly going to be
something that the Commander's target all throughout the day.

Speaker 18 (01:36:18):
And that's not just on the designed run game.

Speaker 16 (01:36:20):
That's also Jayden Daniels scrambling, where I think that lu
An Romo will probably be able to get one on them,
just where you have a rookie quarterback that still kind of,
you know, feeling things out. Where Daniel did have a
decent day against the Giants in their win in Week two.

Speaker 18 (01:36:35):
I think that on the opposite end of that, you know,
this Bengals team should.

Speaker 16 (01:36:38):
Be able to really handle a defensive unit where there
Dan Quinn comes in there and is trying to change
the culture, but they just do not have the players
that should be able to match up with the Bengals.
So it's another situation where, similar to the Patriots, where
you just hope that.

Speaker 18 (01:36:52):
This team is not able to drain the entire game.

Speaker 16 (01:36:56):
Shortened the amount of possessions of Bengals have, but know
the Bengals can can.

Speaker 18 (01:37:01):
Get on them early, can score early in the game.
And now you're turning Dad and Danield.

Speaker 16 (01:37:05):
Into all of these kind of known passing situations where
now lou Anrimo, who just did a really good job
against Patrick Mahome, should be able to do it once again.

Speaker 3 (01:37:13):
Sean sayed, By the way, follow him on x ad
sayed schemes. There's a lot of people on the internet
diagramming plays. Follow Sean. He knows what he's talking about.
Awesome to have you will do it again next week, man,
thanks so.

Speaker 18 (01:37:25):
Much, Thanks so much, Ma, looking forward to it well.

Speaker 3 (01:37:28):
I appreciate you joining us. Summer Sports dot Com Monday
Morning mashup column Bengals. I think if you were to
put an amount of money that mattered to you on
any of the nine to zero to two teams to
make the postseason, I think the money is on Cincinnati.
You can call me a homer like the Rams don't
have any active offensive weapons who are healthy. I don't

(01:37:53):
know that I would trust Jacksonville. I do not trust Indianapolis.
I'm fearful that the Titan might just not be very
good the Broncos offensively are a train wreck, and the
Giants and Panthers will finish one to two in draft order.
For the twenty twenty five draft, it's Cincinnati or Baltimore. Now,

(01:38:14):
if your money's on Baltimore, that's fine. There is a
lot of attrition from last year. And look, there are
four plays away from being two to zero, including a
road win against Kansas City, So you have to keep
that in mind. That offense, it looks clunky, it continues
to look clunky, and there's still very formidable upfront on defense,

(01:38:36):
still very high metrically in terms of win rate upfront.
My money would be on Cincinnati. Bengals play the Ravens
Week five. The key is to be two and two
going into that game. In Baltimore. Schedule in the coming
weeks it's Dallas, Buffalo, and Cincinnati. It's a little bit
different than what the Bengals had over the course of
the next few weeks. It's a twenty six. We were
late twenty six away from six o'clout work Buffalo Wild Wings.

(01:38:58):
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Speaker 1 (01:39:19):
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experience one, Lawrence Guy, who is a fourteenth year player,
originally a seventh rounder by Green Bay in twenty eleven.
He has bounced around with the Packers, Colts, Chargers, Ravens

(01:39:55):
and Patriots. Been a long time in New England seventeen
through twentusan twenty three. Didn't have a very good year
last year. He's thirty four years old. Those are the
reasons why he was available. He has been excuse me
signed by the Bengals because they don't have anybody else
to play the position. kJ Henry has been waived and
Schedrick Jackson has been released from the practice squad. Bengals

(01:40:17):
practice squad currently one spot shy of the sixteen player limit.

Speaker 4 (01:40:21):
Man.

Speaker 3 (01:40:21):
I wonder who they're gonna put on it. Bengals and Commanders,
Monday Night Live on ESPN fifteen thirty. It's must win
territory for the Reds. Their tragic number for elimination in
the National League Wildcard race is down to two Cincinnati
nine and a half back, so a Reds loss and
a New York Mets win against the Washington Nationals would

(01:40:45):
officially eliminate the Reds from playoff contention. Must win tonight
for the Reds as they host the Atlanta Braves at GABP.
First of a three games series starts the final home
stand of the season. Cincinnati gives the ball to Brandon Williamson.
He'll be a posts by right handed picture Grant Holmes
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and right Noelve Marte at third base.

Speaker 4 (01:41:28):
There you go.

Speaker 3 (01:41:30):
Also tonight, the Scott Saderfield Radio Show eight to nine
Live on ESPN fifteen thirty. That's what we got for
sports headlines. Kareem Hunt signs with the Chiefs. Added to
the practice squad to a tangevlo is headed to the
injured list injured reserve. He has to miss at least
four games. That's about it. Our buddy Mike is with us. Mike,

(01:41:53):
you're on ESPN fifteen thirty. Good afternoon, How are you.

Speaker 9 (01:41:57):
Good?

Speaker 15 (01:41:58):
Mom?

Speaker 9 (01:41:58):
Joining the show as usual. Hope Taren's doing well.

Speaker 3 (01:42:02):
Taran is doing great. I am enjoying the show too.

Speaker 9 (01:42:05):
Yeah, well you should, because your show is the best. Cowboy,
I already told you this. It's right up there with
pet I don't care what anybody says. You're right there
with Petro Some Money In my book.

Speaker 3 (01:42:20):
Petro Some Some Money? Who do a show in Los Angeles?
Is my favorite sports talk radio show, Mike. But I
gotta say something. I heard you tell Tony and Austin.
I think it was last week that that show was
your favorite.

Speaker 4 (01:42:33):
So which is it?

Speaker 9 (01:42:37):
I think you misheard that I have no call. I'm
going to do the Politician.

Speaker 3 (01:42:43):
I don't. I haven't all right, I haven't talked to
him like I haven't talked to him like a week.
How you been? What's going on?

Speaker 9 (01:42:51):
Kens are not too good?

Speaker 16 (01:42:53):
Mo?

Speaker 9 (01:42:53):
But you know, I don't know. You just keep hoping
and praying and doing what they tell you to do.
But I appreciate you asking these brothers.

Speaker 3 (01:43:00):
But when I start, I get asked a lot of
questions about you. I get I was in the elevator
at Yager Stadium up in Oxford on Saturday, and Uh,
A gentleman said to me, Hey are you Mo? And
I said yeah. He goes, how is Mike doing? And
I said, Mike is going through a lot. We haven't
talked to him in a few days. Uh, but we'll

(01:43:22):
find out.

Speaker 9 (01:43:23):
So here you are, I'll be damn. That's the very
and made my damn thank go up.

Speaker 3 (01:43:28):
But what's on your mind?

Speaker 9 (01:43:30):
Okay, Fangles, so defensive Wine is at least a tackle
except for Hendrickson, we don't we don't know what they
help call. But I'm gonna tell you, I've been following
his Tampa Bay team because of my buddy down there,
and uh, it's impressing me no end. Though they lost
both they had two I don't know if they were

(01:43:52):
both all pros, but close to a defensive, starting defensive tackles.
Both of them go down, no problem, He's still hang
and beat Detroit.

Speaker 13 (01:44:02):
I just.

Speaker 9 (01:44:04):
I'm confused why a team like Tampa versus US. But
you know, Todd Bowles is quite a defensive coach. I'm
trying to make sense of all this that the Bengals
compared to them, which Kloe isn't there.

Speaker 3 (01:44:17):
Well, I mean, first of all, Baker Mayfield has turned
into quite a success story, right, so the Browns give
up on him, Panthers give up on him, They send
him to LA. He shows up in Tampa to basically
replace the greatest of all time, and I kind of
feel like it kind of felt like, at least for
being a starting quarterback, this was it. This was his

(01:44:38):
last chance, and in many respects it kind of felt
like he was a placeholder for whoever Tampa Bay found next.
And then they get to the playoffs and he gets
rewarded with a nine figure contract, and now he's got
dudes to throw to. You know you you called me
last week to talk about Mike Evans, who's put together
a hell of a career. Chris Godwin is playing like

(01:44:59):
he did four or five years ago. That offense has
turned into one that is that is really really fun
to watch. And Baker's just individual turnaround, you know what.
They don't ask him to do a ton. I don't
think he's thrown the ball more than twenty five times
in either of the games they have played. But he
doesn't make mistakes, He makes the right decision, he doesn't

(01:45:22):
try to force throws. In fact, reading a piece from
one of the Florida papers was about how you know
he's I think he's taken six seven sacks through two games,
but it's that's a reflection of him maybe not taking
some shots downfield and putting his team in harm's way
with an interception like he was earlier in his career.
So I start with that Todd Bowles is a very

(01:45:44):
good defensive mind. They played from ahead in that game
against Detroit. Feels like they're really really hard to defend.
They're fun to watch. They've given Baker, you know, Baker
had Odell Beckham Junior to throw too, and then things
got weird there in Cleveland. I don't think he's had
anything like he has in Tampa Bay.

Speaker 9 (01:46:00):
Right now, I'm just stuffy. I'm just impressed because I've
never paid much attention to the Bucks, but I am. Now. Okay,
the Bengals game coming up. We're real quick. So Otani's
probably a no brain or MVP, right National League? Oh yeah,
in your American league? Do you like witt or do
you like Judge bo?

Speaker 3 (01:46:22):
I like Bobby witt Man. Now, I don't think I don't.
I don't think you can go wrong either way, right,
Aaron Judges, I don't know if he's going to get
to sixty home runs, but he's going to eclipse fifty five.
He may close in on one hundred and forty five,
maybe one hundred and fifty runs batted in. And if
you take him off that team, you know, a boy
forget about it. But you know, to me, Bobby Wit

(01:46:45):
Junior plays a premium position on defense. He plays it
exceptionally well. He means so much to that Kansas City team,
which you talk about a great success story, lost one
hundred and six games last year, and now they're going
to be in the post season. I don't know that
I could go wrong either way. If you vote for
Aaron Judge, that's okay. I just I love watching Bobby Wit.

(01:47:07):
I put a bit of a premium on the position
that he plays. He satisfies every metric, he steals bases,
He's going to be a thirty to thirty guy. He
is cut down a little bit of hakeouts. Yeah, he's
already got two in a day and age where nobody
does that. He's already got two hundred hits. You know again,
it's to me, it's like the year where Vado and

(01:47:30):
John Carlos Stanton almost split the award. You could vote
for either and be okay, mom leaning toward Bobby Wick,
but I don't. I don't feel so strongly that if
Aaron Judge wins it, I'd be upset.

Speaker 9 (01:47:42):
Yeah, okay, if you'll allow me real quick, Yeah, he's
breaking this kick down on both sides. For the Commanders
and the Bengals, and we should win this game by
all the statistics, defense and offense. But why am I
nervous about him?

Speaker 3 (01:47:57):
Because Washington can run the ball. The Bengals are bad
against the run, and that means they can shorten the game.
And if you shorten the game, it has a tendency
to be close. Mike, we got a run man. Great
to hear your voice.

Speaker 9 (01:48:09):
Thank you so much.

Speaker 4 (01:48:11):
We have to go.

Speaker 3 (01:48:12):
We're back in studio tomorrow. But tomorrow is National Cheeseburger Day.
So you know what I'm doing for lunch? Going to
Buffalo Wild Wings. Buy one, get one free. If you're
a Blazing Rewards member, you can't beat that. If you're
thinking about something to do for dinner, buy one, get
one half all traditional Wings, all night plays to watch
the Reds or a game that means something, get a

(01:48:35):
nice cold bud light hangout. I'm ill prepared. I got
to do this really quick, Rodney. Do you know where
I am next week? We're to Buffalo Wild Wings next Wednesday.
I know that I got the list. I got it here,
I got it here. The print is small. Bridgewater, Hamilton
Fairfield are next Wednesday. So be ready for that. We'll

(01:48:57):
have the cooler to give away.

Speaker 4 (01:48:59):
That'll be all.

Speaker 3 (01:49:00):
We're done here. My thanks to A. Tarren Bland for
producing back in Kenwood, Rodney Simpson for producing on site,
and thanks to you for listening. Have a great night.
We're back at it tomorrow at three oh five. And
again thanks to the folks at Buffalo Wild Wins for
hooking us up. This has been about light five o'clock
happy Hour on ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports station

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