9/4/24 - The Mo Egger Radio Show - Mo Egger

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Me for Bengals game plan tonight starting at six on
the official home of the Bengals, Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen thirty.

Speaker 2 (00:09):
I'll do that, Dan, Thank you, good afternoon on Moegar.
This is ESPN fifteen thirty. Thank you for listening. Are
we pre loaded today? I'm not talking about like who
we have or have not put in our bodies. I
just had a cup of coffee later in the day

(00:29):
than I've had in years. That is irrelevant. Here's what
is relevant, Okay. Jamar Chase had a helmet and a
practice uniform on trotted out onto the field practicing today,
which he's done before.

Speaker 3 (00:44):
So you know, there's certainly no guarantee that he is going.

Speaker 2 (00:48):
To play on Sunday, but I guess it would strongly
suggest that he will, and it might strongly suggest that
the Bengals and Jamar Chase are going to get a
deal done here very very so soon. I have questions,
I have thoughts, that's the norm. Joe Burrow is gonna
talk in about eight minutes. We're gonna carry out live

(01:11):
his weekly press conference. You'll hear his answers. You're not
gonna hear the questions because that's how it works. But
we're gonna hear from the quarterback of the Bengals, and
I'm sure he's gonna be asked about Jamar Chase, and
I'm sure he's gonna say all the right things. But
you know, this was always a big day, right the
first obviously Monday was an extra practice because they didn't

(01:32):
have a game this past weekend, the off day on Tuesday,
which is the norm, and then okay, the first like
Wednesday practice leading up to a game. If Jamar didn't
go today, it would only intensify the questions about his
availability for Sunday, and it might for some solidify the
fact that he's not gonna play. Him being on the
field today certainly doesn't guarantee anything. If there's anything we

(01:56):
learned last week, it's we shouldn't make any large assumptions,
but it certainly would suggest that there is i'll say,
a greater likelihood of him playing than not. Also, and
this is significant too, a Marius mimes he had a
helmet and a uniform and look the part of a
guy who was going to practice. Now it certainly does

(02:17):
look like Trent Brown's going to be the guy on Sunday.
Number one right tackle on the depth chart. But a
Marius Mims had a great training camp up until the
point that he got hurt, and so him coming back
right around now, I think is good news that to
me always felt like sort of best case. We're gonna
get into all of this all across the afternoon. Richard Skinner,
who's been at practice, been at the venue formerly known

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as Paul Brown Stadium all day long, is going to
join this coming up at five twenty. We also, if
you're one of those people who loves to just dive
into the weeds of contracts and what they may look like,
we got a really good guest at four forty five,
we'll talk Jamar Chase and the Ruler of the Jungle
is going to join us. Dan Hurley, head coach of
the two time defending national champion U kon Husky's will

(03:00):
be our guest at five forty. We are looking forward
to that. I'm wearing a Bearcat basketball T shirt today.
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(03:23):
on ESPN fifteen thirty to two hours of waterwall Bengals
stuff to get to as soon as we're done here.
Bengals and Patriots Live on ESPN fifteen thirty Sunday, with
pregame coverage from the Holy Grail beginning at nine am.
I've got I've got a few questions about the timing
of the Jamar Chase contract if it gets done. I've
got a question about the idea of the Bengals. Well,

(03:43):
they're setting a precedent. They don't want to do that
if they get a deal done with Jamar Chase before
he begins play this season. There is a lot of
ground to cover. We have three hours to cover it.
We're gonna break a little bit early because Joe Burrow
is scheduled to talk at three fifteen, so that's about
five minutes away. So we'll get this in when we
come back. The Quarterback of the Cincinnati Bengals live on

(04:05):
ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station.

Speaker 4 (04:09):
Cincinnati's Es kick off their season against the Patriots. Coverage
begins Sunday morning at nine on ESPN fifteen thirty, the
official home of the Bengals.

Speaker 2 (04:19):
It is fourteen after three. This is ESPN fifteen thirty.
Im oegor. We are moments away from a Joe Burrow presscofference,
the quarterback of the Bengals will talk about patriots, and
that's probably it. We'll have that for you here momentarily.
Just over an hour from now, the ad UC John

(04:39):
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Gonna EMORYFCU dot org, and you and I can be
members of the same credit union. While you're on the internet,
we did some stuff yesterday that if you missed, you're
gonna want to check out. Speaking of Joe Burrow, you know, nationally,

(05:00):
when they write about the Bengals or talk about the Bengals,
the main topic is Jamar Chason, you know, to a
large degree understandably. So there are some other stories. In
one of those stories, and if you go back a
year ago, the big battle at camp was the one
between Jake Browning and Trevor Simeon, and Jake won the job,

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and we all wondered, man if that dude has to
play in a game, are they going to be screwed?
And as it turns out, Jake had to play in
a lot of games, and while he is not Joe Burrow,
the Bengals were okay. He played like a competent, good
prepared backup quarterback. And now he's with the team this

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year and he's part of a great quarterback room and
maybe he's gonna get a chance to start one day.
But if this season, if Jake has to play, and
hopefully he doesn't, and if he does, hopefully it's nothing
more than a brief cameo here or there. But if
he has to play, I think we all feel like,
you know what, the Bengals can still be okay and
can still win games. So that is a long way
of me telling you that Seth Wickersham of ESPN wrote

(06:04):
a really good piece about Jake Browning. It's really about
Jake Browning, but it includes a large part of the
story is about his relationship and friendship with Joe Burrow,
and it's a really good read.

Speaker 3 (06:15):
So Number one, go read it at ESPN dot com.

Speaker 2 (06:17):
Number two, if you missed my conversation with Seth yesterday,
you can go and get that at ESPN fifteen thirty
dot com or just go find it on the iHeartRadio app.
Also our conversation with Pauldiner Junior yesterday, and again there
was a lot of Jamar there, but there were also
some other things there that had nothing to do with
Jamar Chase, like one of the more interesting storylines of

(06:39):
the off season Slash Training Camp involves Dax Hill's ascension
from a guy who was a failed safety a year ago,
given a lifeline by being given a chance to earn
a spot as a corner, being given a chance to

(07:00):
earn a spot as a starting corner, feeling like a
lot of us felt like he had a very uphill
battle in front of him, and then earning a starting gig.
Now he's gonna be tested. We'll see how this plays out,
but Paul and I talked extensively about Dax and a
few other things. If you miss that, go get it

(07:20):
on the iHeartRadio app. Podcasts of the show are a
service of a long Next Sports Grill a fantastic place
to post up for NFL football tomorrow night. Jamar Chase
practice today and this would suggest he is going to
play on Sunday, and if he does awesome, and if

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he doesn't show up at practice tomorrow, it's gonna create
a whole different set of conversations about his availability. And
I do feel like public opinion, which is not unanimous
in any regard, but public opinion shifted a little bit
like last week when Jamar, after practicing twice, decided not

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to work out last Wednesday. And YE like, there's exasperation
with this and there's exhaustion with it. And I'll admit
to having both of those things at times when it
comes to this story. But you know, I think we
have to remember something here. This has always been the
case in the NFL. It's been the case with other

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sports too, but it's really always been the case in
the NFL. As long as the players are the product,
which they are.

Speaker 3 (08:35):
Mike Brown's not the product, The Bengals brand is not
the product. The NFL shield is not the product. Roger
Goodell is not the product. As long as the players
are the product, and as long as the money they're
willing to forego is recouperable, you're gonna have players using

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their availability, which is their only leverage, to get what
they want. I think sometimes when there's situations like a
player threatening to not play, a player not playing because
he's holding out for more money or a new contract,
it gets sort of portrayed as if it's this new thing,
like I remember being a kid. Anthony Munyos held out

(09:21):
of Bengals training camp when he had three years and
an option year left on his deal. Doesn't make Anthony
Munhoz a bad guy. I think we would all agree
Anthony Munyos is a wonderful person. He had a dispute,
He used his time, his availability, which was the only
leverage he really had. I don't even think in nineteen
eighty three when he did that he got what he wanted.
But do you hear what I said there in nineteen

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eighty three? Holdouts are a part of this league. Emmett Smith,
an iconic player right league's all time leading rusher, an
iconic player, sat out the first two games of the
nineteen ninety three season looking for a new contract. A

(10:06):
Hall of Famer Fred Dean San Francisco forty nine ers
in nineteen eighty four missed ten games. Like Cornelius Bennett
in the Indianapolis Colts, he held out for one hundred
and two days into the regular season terrific player ultimately
got traded to the Buffalo Bills in a three team
trade that included Eric Dickerson going from the Rams to Indy.

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Because Eric Dickerson, a Hall of Famer one of the
iconic athletes of the mid eighties.

Speaker 2 (10:36):
Held out and chose not to play football games. This
is not going away. You might not like it. It
has been a built in, inherent part of this league forever.
As long as the players are the product, and Jamar
Chase is the product, and as long as the money
they're willing to forego is recoupable, then you're gonna have

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players who do what Jamar Chase. He hasn't come out
and said I'm threatening to miss games, but by him
not practicing, that's been the message.

Speaker 3 (11:06):
Whether he's meant for it to be or not, that's
been the message.

Speaker 2 (11:09):
Hey, look man, I want a new deal and if
I can miss games, you know, might be well in
the miss games. Maybe he has never intended that, but
that's been a message. Might not be the right message,
might not be a message you and I like, might
not be the message he is intended for us to receive,
but it's the message these hold ins holdouts players not

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showing up to work. By the way, Jamar Chase has
done nothing to violate his contract. He hasn't missed any meetings,
he has not been a wall, he hasn't failed to report,
he hasn't missed a game. Yet, He's done nothing to
violate his contract. So he's not out any money. But
the players who have, like Trent Williams in San Francisco,

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lost a lot of money not practicing. That money easily recoupable.
For a guy like Trent Williams, he is the product.
He is the product more than John Lynch in San
Francisco is more than Kyle Shanahan is. This is an
immutable truth of the NFL. As long as the players
are the product, and as long as the money they're

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willing to forego is recoupable, you are going to have holdouts.
Doesn't mean you have to like it. I haven't liked
what Bengals fan has liked this. I mean, okay, Bengals
fans who have talk shows and podcasts like me. Well,
I like it because it's given us a lot of
a lot of content. There's been a lot to talk about.
There's been a lot of different angles. Even though every

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day I wake up going, what are we gonna say
that's new about Jamar Chase.

Speaker 3 (12:39):
But if you're a fan, this is this isn't fun.

Speaker 2 (12:42):
It's not fun to think of a star player being
at odds with the franchise you root for. It's not
fun to think about the possible impact of his absence
on a season that I think we all think could
be pretty special. But these sort of things are just
they're They're a built in part of the NFL. Sometimes
they have touch Cincinnati, let's be honest, not that many

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in recent history. Jesse Bates held out, didn't go to
training camp, showed up when he absolutely had to sign
his franchise tag. And by the way, Jesse Bates, when
he wasn't showing up a training camp was not a
player under contract. So again, there's nothing the Bengals could do.
They've had back in the day before the rookie wage
scale and slotted contracts, they had all sorts of rookies

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who didn't sign their deals and then until they got
the deal they were looking for, held out and in
some cases miss games, like Justin Smith in two thousand
and one. These things aren't going away. They're not a
new league phenomenon. They've happened for decades. Players using their
availability as leverage because it's the only leverage they have.

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But without their availability, there is no NFL. So I
haven't liked it, but I get it. This is just
it's it's how this works. It's not like your job
or mine. Like if I decide I'm not coming to
work and I'm gonna violate my contract and I'm not
gonna do my show. That money that I lose not

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as easy to recuperate as an NFL players. Also, I'm
not elite Jamar Chase is. So there's also something about
this speaking of Jamar being elite, the precedent setting. If
they get the deal done, boy, it's gonna set a
new precedent. The Bengals have not signed players to new
contracts when they've had two years remaining on their deal.

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What is that gonna do. I've got an answer for that.
I'll give it to you coming up in the four
o'clock hour, And the closer we get to Sunday, the
closer we get to kickoff tomorrow night in Kansas City,
Chiefs and Ravens opening up the season between now and
then at eight o'clock. The longer a deal doesn't get done,

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the closer we get to eight o'clock, the more it's
going to, I think, make a lot of us wonder,
are is there going to be like a pre kickoff
or post kickoff news dump where to open up the
NFL season? The Chiefs and Ravens are about to begin
the year, about to play against each other and rematch
the AFC championship game. And then there's gonna be news

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from Cincinnati for a second consecutive year that a long
term deal has gotten done for a Bengals star, and
how that may overshadow the night, will it? We'll get
to that a little bit later. On our phone numbers
are five point three, seven four nine, fifteen thirty and
eight six six seven oh two three seven seven six.
Joe Burrow Tarran correct me if I'm wrong. Typically pretty punctual,

(15:42):
but he is ten minutes late for his press conference,
very late, very late. Ten minutes. This is not like Joe.
Maybe there's something big happening. Maybe they're having a big
team meeting to inform everybody that Jamar has got in
his bag. Uh yes, did anybody give a a memo
to the Bengals or to Joe Burrow that you know,

(16:02):
we've we plan these things out and we blocked off
a chunk of time from about three fifteen to three
thirty where he was going to answer questions that we
will not be able to hear. So what we'll do
is we'll get the break in because we can't. We
can't miss a word that Joe Burrow says. Uh.

Speaker 3 (16:21):
But hopefully he shows.

Speaker 2 (16:23):
Up in the next couple of minutes and then we
can all move on with our lives. It is twenty
six after three o'clock. Hopefully Joe Burrow next on ESPN
fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports.

Speaker 3 (16:34):
Station Cincinnati's ESPN.

Speaker 2 (16:37):
Joe Burrow just showed up for his press conference. Here
is the quarterback of the Bengals, answering questions, you won't
be able to hear.

Speaker 5 (16:49):
Offense, What's what's your involvement.

Speaker 6 (16:51):
In the situation? Very little? Jim's getting prepared.

Speaker 7 (16:56):
You have one game plan.

Speaker 8 (16:57):
If he is available in plan or whatever reason he.

Speaker 7 (17:00):
Isn't for Sunday.

Speaker 9 (17:02):
Uh.

Speaker 6 (17:03):
Yeah, I would say that's true. You know, we'll see
what ends up happening, but whatever happens, we're prepared for it.

Speaker 7 (17:10):
What's been your.

Speaker 2 (17:10):
Approach being agains kind of he kind of tries to
figure out what he's dealers were like, how do you
kind of approach it? You put a wayship of working
relationship with the first.

Speaker 6 (17:19):
Our relationship hasn't changed. I'm not getting involved in his business.
I'm going about mine and trying to get better every
day and going out and getting ready to play for Sunday.
So I know he's doing what he needs to do
to be ready to go if if need be. So
I'm just doing what I gotta do going through this

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last year. How much does that help? You'd be a
patient in this situation.

Speaker 10 (17:43):
Watching a team make up through it.

Speaker 6 (17:44):
Yeah, we've had those discussions on how it went for me,
how similar and not similar it's been. So we've had
those discussions.

Speaker 7 (17:54):
I'm remember what.

Speaker 3 (17:55):
This week was like because you're you're dealing.

Speaker 8 (17:57):
Didn't get a great team for Thursday night, We'll was
the week one.

Speaker 7 (18:01):
Life for you? Last year for the mat well.

Speaker 6 (18:04):
I was doing a lot of different things and the
injury of the contract, trying to get ready to play.
So yeah, it's definitely a distraction when it's not done.

Speaker 11 (18:17):
It's a particularly challenging distraction to deal with over the
course of a month leading up and mean, is it
different than an injury for a player to deal with that,
especially for the first time you're going through a contract situation.
Did you find it that to week different than injuries
and things like that?

Speaker 6 (18:32):
Mmm? You know, I was going through the injury, so
I was mainly focused on that and letting the people
that needed to handle the contract handle it and focus
on getting better and getting ready to play for week one.
So I'm I'm sure jamarket answer better than I can
how he's handling it, But uh, that's how I did.

Speaker 12 (18:52):
How big is it?

Speaker 3 (18:53):
How big is it that you been a team guy
for the last four years?

Speaker 6 (18:56):
Is he getting into a situation that is Yeah, it's
it's always been a team first, win first kind of guy.
That's the kind of guy that Jamar is, and you
want to reward those those guys. You're saying today is.

Speaker 2 (19:07):
The most extensive work we've had with Jim Walo since
the end of Blessings that first.

Speaker 6 (19:12):
MM, I wouldn't say that.

Speaker 7 (19:14):
What was all the most excessive work?

Speaker 6 (19:15):
If we don't get no, that's that's hard to say.
We've you know, we've we've had workdays, you know, the
last you know, all off season into train camp into
you know, the last couple of weeks. So we got
to work and we need not.

Speaker 7 (19:32):
You're normal, even me.

Speaker 10 (19:34):
I mean he's he he's a different guy genetically. You
don't better than anybody, played, no longer than anybody.

Speaker 6 (19:40):
How long does it take?

Speaker 10 (19:42):
Did you hard to get football already and.

Speaker 9 (19:44):
Get in sync with you?

Speaker 6 (19:45):
If you think he's ready to go right now?

Speaker 5 (19:50):
Why is he, in your opinion, the best receiver or
one of if not in the NFL? I mean he
can do so much, but to you specifically played with
a ton receivers, Like why is he your top target?

Speaker 12 (20:03):
Like?

Speaker 8 (20:03):
What what makes say it's so special?

Speaker 6 (20:05):
I think it's just the all around skill set. Obviously
his great hands. It's way faster than you think he is,
and everybody thinks he's really fast. He plays through contact,
he's physically strong. You know, he's the he's a complete receiver.

Speaker 8 (20:23):
He said he's ready to go. What is it about
him on the situation that makes you think he's ready.

Speaker 9 (20:27):
To go right now?

Speaker 6 (20:29):
I saw him out there today. You know he looks fast, strong,
like he always does. You know, I know he's been
doing what he needs to do to stay ready if
if he needs to be ready. So I'm confident that
if he does go out there on Sunday, then he'll
be the Jamal we all know as a teammate.

Speaker 8 (20:49):
As at what's your expectation of Jabar.

Speaker 11 (20:53):
Throughout this time?

Speaker 6 (20:55):
What do you mean, like h for Sunday, for for
both for Sunday and for him physically for this time,
he's gonna go out and play really well. I know that,
you know, we'll see for Sunday. I don't have any
expectations right now. I would say, you know what that's
gonna look like. You know, we haven't quite had those discussions,

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but I know if he's out there, I know the
kind of player is gonna be.

Speaker 10 (21:18):
Someday, be like a fluid thing, kind of like during
the flow of the game.

Speaker 6 (21:24):
It's probably a question for Jamar Zach.

Speaker 7 (21:27):
You're rich back to one.

Speaker 9 (21:29):
Full strength heading into the season opener.

Speaker 6 (21:31):
You know, whenever you have an injury like that, there's yeah,
I feel like I'm healthy. I feel like I'm physically strong,
and I'll be able to go out and do what
I need to do. But you know, whenever you have
those kinds of injuries. It's a it's a process throughout
the season, just like with with the knee. You're gonna
have some days where you feel good, some days where
you don't, and you're gonna get better throughout the season.

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I don't think you really can.

Speaker 13 (21:56):
Uh.

Speaker 6 (21:58):
I'm confident in the work that I've it in and
I know that the ligament is strong at this point
to be able to take those kind of hits. So
I'm not too worried about it.

Speaker 2 (22:09):
So why are you that at some point this is
the content of the course, the options kind of that
was just that field now, huh.

Speaker 6 (22:16):
I mean that's football, that's part of it. So I
missed football, that's for sure.

Speaker 7 (22:20):
The different than h He's like an open gig game. Different,
you know to streamer follow.

Speaker 6 (22:28):
Yeah, I would say, I would say that's inaccurate statement.
You don't really. I mean, you have last year's tape
that you can go and watch, but you know, every
team is different year to year, So you just have
to be ready to adapt on the fly in these
Week one games and expect the unexpected, because there's gonna
be unscouted looks, there's gonna be you know, situations that

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popped up that maybe you haven't repped, so you just
got to be able to adapt.

Speaker 10 (22:54):
Feel like that, you think the structure, the structure of
the Patriots defense is pretty much gonna be what you
saw back in the twenty.

Speaker 6 (23:01):
Yeah, I mean that's what we're preparing for, as well
as some things that they've shown, you know, several years back,
that that we'll be ready for. We'll be ready for
everything that they've shown and adapt to the ones that
they haven't, you feel like following, Yeah, I think so,
we'll see it throughout the season. How it feels. I'm
ready to adapt to whatever I need and feel like

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I need to do.

Speaker 8 (23:26):
How much of the difference does it make the fact
that you had had it in training camp here, you
know that, but as opposed to last year where you didn't,
how much different do you feel this year?

Speaker 7 (23:35):
Feel like?

Speaker 12 (23:35):
This is?

Speaker 6 (23:36):
Yeah, I I feel great. This is the the best
I felt going into week one, you know, since my
rookie season. So that's exciting for me to be able
to get these reps in training camp and you know,
bank all those and continue to get better throughout this
time as opposed to just trying to get back to baseline.

Speaker 10 (23:54):
In the history of tradition the last twenty plus years
of being you know, solid defensively obviously up the stro
What is about the structure that makes that kind of unique.

Speaker 6 (24:04):
They have a lot of versatile players that they can
move around and put in different spots in similar structures
to make it look like something different that really, you know,
it isn't quite that. It makes it difficult in blocking
schemes and coverage identification because usually you you know, you

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see one guy in one spot and kind of know
what it is. But you know, they move their guys
around because they're all really versatile players, and you know,
that makes pre snap identification you know, sometimes easier, but
many times harder. Makes the blocking schemes a little more
complicated sometimes. But uh, that's what makes it hard. I

(24:47):
would say, I think you okay, thanks, I think trend
Brown or is you can fit different attack that you
sad as anything over?

Speaker 7 (24:55):
What is your view of here when you've.

Speaker 10 (24:57):
Seen it, I mean you've seen public of the situation, but.

Speaker 6 (25:00):
Should take Yeah, he's gonna be great for us. He's
a big, strong, physical athletic guy that is a is
a veteran and knows what he's doing out there. Played
a lot of football, won a Super Bowl, So I'm
excited to get out there and play with him. He's,
you know, exactly what you want in a tackle. You know,

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He's great in the run game, great in the past game,
really excels in the past game. So I'm excited to
go out there and see that on Sunday. Where is
your comfort the obviously bringing back the rest of the.

Speaker 14 (25:33):
Guys play for the last year.

Speaker 6 (25:34):
Yeah, very very comfortable. Those guys have put in the
work to get better and and really put their best
foot forward this year. I'm really excited about the work
that they've put in and what they've shown throughout training camp,
and I know they're excited to go on show too.

Speaker 12 (25:48):
How would you describe your level of motivation Joe and
one of this.

Speaker 6 (25:53):
Hi, just like every year, you know, whenever you're coming
back from injury, you feel like you got to come
back and show that not only you can do what
you did prior to the injury, but also that I've
gotten better. So I'm excited to go out and show
the work that I put in over the last you know,

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eight months. I know the other guys are too. It's
been a long time coming, so We're ready to go.

Speaker 15 (26:18):
I feel like we've got something maybe a little nature
to remove this year, get break years, probably more than the
last two.

Speaker 6 (26:24):
Yeah. You know, whenever you're coming back from injury, you
kind of start from from ground zero. So that's how
I'm attacking it. I'm excited about where I'm at. I'm
excited about the opportunity that we have. You know, everybody's
zero zero right now. We feel like we have a
really good team. We're gonna have a really good week
of practice and then go out on Sunday and put

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our best foot forward.

Speaker 14 (26:47):
Makes for a few times when you started to show
off schedule explosive.

Speaker 3 (26:51):
Plays last year and the chance to do more this year.

Speaker 13 (26:53):
How you get better at that?

Speaker 6 (26:55):
Work on your athleticism, work on your strength, throw on
the run. You know, that's something that I've really worked
hard on the last two years. You know, you saw
it in a couple of games last year when I
was healthy. I'm excited to show that part of my game.
I think that's a part of my game that it
is pretty underrated, and you know, really what makes me different,

(27:20):
I think, So that's something that I'm excited to show
this year.

Speaker 10 (27:23):
Picture was saying that Patriots defense obviously defensive.

Speaker 6 (27:28):
I think you just started trying to confuse you.

Speaker 10 (27:31):
But he said, you continue to every snap, just back
snaps and and get smarter and smarter. Is this a challenge?
You look forward to the chest patch a little bit
between their defensive dynamic and what you see.

Speaker 6 (27:42):
Yeah, it'll be tough. It'll be tough. They make it
hard on the quarterback. You know, they disguise. They do
a great job with their safeties of you know, showing
what rotation one way, maybe bringing it the other, bringing
a pressure and a position where you don't really expect it,
throwing a zero pressure in there out of the blue.
So you got to be ready for anything at any
given time, and you know, let the game come to you,

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don't try to force it.

Speaker 8 (28:07):
So part of the story around this team the last
several years has been that it's a team that starts
slow one and nine week to the last five years,
or each one to two the last five years. What
is it that gives you confidence that this year can
be different?

Speaker 7 (28:19):
Early in the.

Speaker 6 (28:19):
Season, yeah, I mean, we're we're treating every week like
it's one season of seven games, So you know, we're
focused on going and going one to O this week,
We're focused on getting better tomorrow and watching the tape
today and learning from today. You know, we've banked all
the reps throughout training camp and gotten better day by day.

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That's something that I've been excited about, is one, how
our young guys have improved throughout training camp and banked
those reps, myself included. And then the guys on defense
are looking really fast, physical and strong and communicating at
a high level. So you know, when you have guys
that can do that, it gives you a lot of

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going into Week one.

Speaker 5 (29:01):
If you had to pick one quality about yourself that
you feel like you learned most from your mom and
at least she raised you, what would you say it is?

Speaker 6 (29:11):
Mm, calm in stressful situations. I would say, you know,
that's I don't think I've ever seen my mom get
stressed or excited or flustered in any kind of situation

(29:33):
where maybe a normal person might be that way. And
you know, I was with my mom a lot growing
up and watching her, whether it was in my dad's
games or something happens on the road in some kind
of potential accident. She's just always been calm, cool, and collected,

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and that's something I've always admired.

Speaker 5 (29:58):
Plays a role in your foundation. Speak to the work
she's done and getting your foundations.

Speaker 2 (30:03):
Where it is.

Speaker 6 (30:04):
Yeah, she's really spearheaded that and you know, made me
take that really seriously because she takes that really seriously.
And so that's something that I'm really proud of her
for taking that on and opening my eyes to all
the good that can come from that. She works really
hard at trying to do good things in the community

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along with my dad, and so it's exciting to watch
her passion for that. I would say, what do you
remember that? Yeah, that's true. There was nobody here. And
I also played like ship. Yeah, I played really well

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on that one drive. That was an unfortunate flag because
I would have felt a lot better about that game
looking back. That would have been a fun first touchdown,
a game winner to AJ Green. But life doesn't work
out that way.

Speaker 8 (31:04):
Sometimes menage multiple times and you're starting training camp that
when you're hurt, you're out of the outside, out of
mind with all these lists in that, man, how do.

Speaker 6 (31:14):
You put yourself that on the front burner as fast
go out and play? Well, that's what the NFL is
all about, you know, you play really well one week
and people think that you're the best, and then the
next week you go out and put a stinker out
and now all of a sudden, you're the worst. So

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people have a short term memory in this league, and
I think that's a good thing because that makes you
go out and prove it every single week. And that's
what I'm excited about the.

Speaker 10 (31:45):
Open in twenty twenty to the Open and now using
one winding road, what comes to my most picture pasi book.
You know, if you're kind of take a big picture,
probably picture look back.

Speaker 6 (31:58):
Just try to stay consistent, consistent, disciplined, and your attitude
trying to get better every single day. If you just
try to get better every single day, then you're gonna
look back after one or two years and see how
far you've come. So that's what always what I try
to do is just go out with intent to to

(32:20):
get better every period, every practice. And I think if
you do that, you're gonna you're gonna be all right.

Speaker 8 (32:29):
How do you assess the weapons that you have now
and that they are certainly different than what you've had.

Speaker 6 (32:36):
In cass Yeah, I'm really excited about all the new
pieces that we've added. Zach Moss is gonna have a
big year. I'm excited to see Chase Brown around the ball.
Mike Asiki coming in is gonna play a big role
in this offense. It's gonna be fun to watch Andre
and Slot. You know, the new pieces that we've added

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this year, and guys that have been on the team
but are seeing an increased role. I have had great
training camps and that's something that I'm really excited to see.
Excited for those guys and excited to see for myself.
You know how those guys go out and play because
I know it's gonna be well, there have more versatile pieces.

(33:17):
How what does that Does that allow.

Speaker 11 (33:18):
You to change what you can do with the Lion spurns?

Speaker 3 (33:20):
Can you do more or is it still kind of
the same stuff that you would be able to doing
last year with.

Speaker 6 (33:27):
Guys are more step. Yeah, we're gonna do what we do,
but we're definitely gonna be able to move guys around
and put guys in different spots to utilize their skill sets.
Guys like Mike and Andre and Trenton and Eric All
and Tanner and Drew Sample and our two running backs
you know, those guys have all worked really hard and
got better throughout training camp and really taken ownership of

(33:49):
their roles.

Speaker 9 (33:50):
Uh.

Speaker 6 (33:51):
So I'm excited to see how everything plays out for
those guys because they've all worked really hard to get
better and they're all gonna have a big years. In
my opinion, that kind of like.

Speaker 11 (34:01):
An extra piece on the chest floor for you, a
little bit out their personally up to a little bit
extra that you can work with and you need to.

Speaker 6 (34:07):
Yeah, I think we have pieces that you can move
around in a lot of different spots, and you know,
put guys as a as a single receiverally you might
not expect, put guys in the backfield, you might not expect,
put a couple of different personnel packages on the field
that teams might not have seen from us before. So

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I think we'll be a lot more multiple in what
we do.

Speaker 8 (34:35):
Is there any kind of different feeling for you when
we wake up and realize that it is game week?
And is there a point in time, like during the
week or at the start of the season where it
really seeks.

Speaker 6 (34:42):
In and you realize it's here outside today. There's definitely
a little different feeling in the in the building today,
Guys taking a little more serious, guys getting the meetings
on time, guys, guys paying attention, writing notes, and you
can definitely feel the energy from the coaches. So it's
game week.

Speaker 10 (34:58):
So what do you think up all thought this is
all alls kind of diverge and last me loose.

Speaker 9 (35:03):
From even think.

Speaker 6 (35:05):
Yeah, that's a guy that really gets better. That's what
you really want to see from a young player. He's
got all the talent in the world, but he banks reps,
he learns from his mistakes. He can jump high, catch,
run fast. Those are all the things that you want
to see from a young player. But the thing that
I'm most excited about is he just wants to get better.
He's eager to learn, and he's gotten so much better

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throughout training camp because of that.

Speaker 10 (35:29):
Is it a situation where mentally he's supposed to be
when he's supposed to be there, you can really trust
him that kind of thing, that it progress in that way.

Speaker 6 (35:36):
Yeah, I would definitely say that. Now, I wouldn't say
that at the beginning of training camp, right, But like
I said, that guy learns from his mistakes, is as
good as anybody. So I think he's going to be
a really good player because of that.

Speaker 3 (35:48):
Thanks, Thanks, I t you go, Joe Burrow.

Speaker 2 (35:52):
That was That was as long as a Joe Burrow
press conference as I can remember. Some good stuff. Except
on two different occasions, within about fifteen seconds apart from
each other, he said a bad word, Tarran. Did we
dump it? I hit my big red dump button in
here in the event we didn't dump it, Will Joe
Burrow pay our FCC fine? Pole question? But yes, he

(36:13):
has to pay a fine? Okay, I just threw out
a pole question thanks to United Heartland Assurance on x
and it's about the Bengals twenty twenty four record. But
I will make another pole question. If we get fined
because Joe Burrow said profanity dropped s bombs? Do we
call him s bombs because he said a bad word
on our air? Should he have to pay our fine?

Speaker 6 (36:34):
I voted yes, my vote.

Speaker 2 (36:36):
I'm not paying it now. I did my job. I
hit the button. Okay, I'm not like some people in
this building.

Speaker 3 (36:42):
I heard it. I hit the button. Did you hit
the button?

Speaker 2 (36:45):
I did? Which, by the way, side notes, I'm just
in and one listening in the building.

Speaker 6 (36:49):
Why do you have a big red button.

Speaker 3 (36:50):
We have a small yellow button in the corner.

Speaker 2 (36:53):
Heard the miss I have no idea, but in our
studio we have a gigantic red button.

Speaker 3 (36:58):
It says dump back here. Both times he said the
bad word. I hit it. So I did my job.

Speaker 2 (37:04):
But if we get fined, Joe Burrow should have to
pay it sright, we are way late. It's eleven away
from four o'clock. Jamar Chase did practice. We have some
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Speaker 4 (38:01):
Station season against the Patriots coverage begins Sunday morning at
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Speaker 2 (38:09):
Don't forget our Free game coverage starts at nine am
Sunday morning at the Holy Grail. Two poll questions at
Muleger on X, both of them thanks to United Heartland Insurance.
The aforementioned Joe Burrow profanity during his live press conference,
and I cannot emphasize this enough. Just to make sure

(38:30):
that I don't get caught in some meeting, I hit
my dump button, So I don't think the bad words
got out over the air, But he did say them
pretty close to each other, and so the way it works,
I'm not sure if maybe the second one got out.
An FCC fine now could come our way. Should we
ask Joe Burrow to pay it? Vote now early returns

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Most people say no. The other one is official regular
season prediction time I'm sorry official regular season guest time.
I think the Bengals are going eleven and six. My
guess is another team in this division goes eleven and six.
I don't know that anybody's gonna win twelve. The two

(39:13):
teams most likely to go eleven and six I believe
here Cincinnati and Baltimore. And I can go deeper into
my convoluted rationale here in a second, but I made
it simple. Three choices. They'll be better than eleven and six.
They'll be eleven and six, or they'll be worse than
eleven and six. Votes vote now. Most of you do
not believe they're going.

Speaker 1 (39:34):
To spike to the ball in the back of the Uzie.

Speaker 4 (39:36):
The Orange and Black kick off their run for the
Super Bowl against New England's papers.

Speaker 3 (39:40):
Sixty three yachts. The magic is bad.

Speaker 4 (39:43):
Time for jober or his boys. Don't put on the show.
Davin crush the patch like an empty beer can get
the coal Live from Dan Horde and Dave Lap. The
coverage begins this morning at nine on ESPR Moor fifteen thirty.

Speaker 2 (39:58):
The official coverages starting this morning really put us today,
that'd be Sunday. I thought we were at the holy Grail. Well, well,
well buttoned up ship we have here. I'm Onleegar. This

(40:19):
is ESPN fifteen thirty. I could not thank you enough
for listening. We are really busy today. This just came
down a few minutes ago. If you're a uc basketball fan,
or for that matter, if you're an Ohio State basketball fan,
there's gonna be a men's hoops charity exhibition. Easy for
me to say, men's basketball charity exhibition between the Bearcats

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and the Buckeyes on Friday, October the eighteenth. This will
benefit care Source. This is going to be called the
care Soce Exhibition Game for Mental Health. Xavier and Dayton
are doing a charity exhibition game as well. This care
Source series was launched by the University of Dayton, who

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hosted Ohio State last year. Caure Source will be the
beneficiary of the game on the twentieth between you DNXU,
and all net proceeds from ticket sales benefit mental health providers.

Speaker 3 (41:14):
And this is it's great.

Speaker 2 (41:17):
It's a great organization from a basketball perspective. Look as
a college basketball fan, it would be great if we
had better regular season games, and.

Speaker 3 (41:26):
So I understand it. If you're a Xavier.

Speaker 2 (41:29):
A UD fan and you want to see those two
teams play in the regular season, it would be better
to see them play in the regular season. And if
you're a UC fan and an Ohio State fan, although
those two teams have played somewhat recently in the regular season,
and from my perspective, games didn't go so well, it'd
be great to see those teams play in the regular season.
We've had in recent years, maybe the last ten years
or so, the super secret scrimmages. Why not let these

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schools play preseason games against each other and sell tickets
and let us watch, and if there's a charity component,
that's awesome. And so this is going to happen up
and on Friday, October the eighteenth, the game will be
at fifth third and the tip off time for that
game has yet to be announced. John Cunningham UCAD, who

(42:12):
was already scheduled to join US at four twenty, is
going to be with us on a lot of different topics,
including this coming up. In just about fifteen minutes, Jamar
Chase practiced today. A Marius Mems was set to go
at practice today. The Jamar Chase thing, I'm gonna take
Zach Taylor at his word. He has called this almost

(42:32):
from the get go, day to day. So Jamar Chase
practice today. I am taking that and putting it in
a vacuum. That is great for today. Let's see what
happens tomorrow if this is truly day by day in
the absence of a new contract, which I'm hoping for,

(42:53):
in the absence of that, it's great that Jamar practiced today.
Let's see if he practices tomorrow. And if he practices tomorrow,
let's see if he's there for the lighter workout on Friday.
I have for the last week been operating under the
assumption that Jamar is not gonna play. I don't know
that I'm doing that anymore because today's news is good.

(43:16):
But if you know the line that I'm talking about,
I can't reference it. There's a line in the movie
Pulp Fiction that comes to mind when I think of
us all getting excited about Jamar playing on Sunday just
because he practiced today. Jamar is gonna talk to the
media on Friday. Great, we don't have a show on Friday.

(43:36):
Jamar's gonna talk to the media. I would imagine that meeting.
That's good, right, he's not gonna talk to the media
if he's not gonna play correct, all right, So Jamar
is gonna talk to the media on Friday. I can't wait.
I can't wait. What am I? I am? I actually
am on Friday. I'm just not on this station. I

(43:58):
do get to be a part of a show on
Friday afternoon, it just won't be mine, all right. So
that's good news, Tarren, Thank you. Many have said, well, Jamar,
you know, he's got two years left on his deal,
and so the Bengals they don't want to set that precedent. Yes,
they gave Joe his deal with two years remaining, but
he's an exception, and he is He's a quarterback and

(44:20):
he's an elite one, and so you're gonna make an
exception for him. And I understand that, and I agree
with it. But man, you don't want to do it
with Jamar. You can't do it because you know down
the road it's just gonna open up this can of
worms of players who when they have two years remaining
on their contract, that they're gonna want a Jamar Chase deal.

(44:41):
Is this really that much of a concern. It would
be groundbreaking for the Bengals, and you know what, who's
not okay with that? I love anything that takes a
franchise that historically has had this rigid, set in stone
way of doing things and deviates from it. I like

(45:02):
the Bengals getting out of their comfort zone organizationally. I
like it off the field with stuff like the Ring
of Honor, and I like it on the field. I
want them to be open to doing things differently. This
was a franchise that for decades sort of sat out
free agency, and now they've embraced it and they've benefited
from it. I want them stepping out of their comfort zone.

(45:25):
There are times when it's worth stepping out of your
comfort zone. This I think is one of them, because
it ensures that Jamar Chase plays games one and two
and maybe three and four, and that makes this year's
team better and enhances their chances of having the best

(45:46):
possible record, to go into the playoffs the highest possible seed,
and then win the Super Bowl. Like that's what we want, right,
But it's gonna set a new precedent for who, Like
when in the coming years is there going to be
a player like Jamar who is regarded as possibly the

(46:13):
best at his position. Now, I think most would say
in the NFL right now, that pecking order starts with
Justin Jefferson, and that's okay, But I mean Jamar is
in that elite you know, bunch of windouts. He's in
that elite tier, if you will. How many times are
the Bengals in the coming years going to have a
player who's in that elite tier at his position, at

(46:37):
a position that is as valuable right now as receiver
is working in a market that just continues to increase
and that has exploded. There are going to be players
who want new contracts. There are going to be players
the Bengals want to sign two new contracts, and there

(46:58):
are probably gonna be players who want new contracts when
they've got two years remaining on their current one. How
many Jamar chases are there going to be? Like in life,
there are exceptions there just are the best of the
best have exceptions made for them. The best of the

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best who do things that are more valuable than others
who are also good at what they do, if that
makes sense, exceptions are made for them. Is there going
to be anybody coming down the pipeline as good as

(47:43):
what they do? As Jamar chases. By the way, if
the answer is yes, let's have the conversation. If the
Bengals have the best right tackle in the sport in
a couple of years, in a Marius Mims, awesome, let's
have the conversation then in the interim, I'm just not

(48:04):
prepared to worry that much about what's going to happen
if the unlikely occurs, and the unlikely is Look, the
odds are against everybody being the best at what they do.
I'm not gonna worry about players who play positions that
aren't as valuable as wide receiver is right now, And

(48:25):
I'm not gonna worry about players who may be as
good at their positions as Jamar is at his holding
a gun to the Bengals head. I think this whole
precedent setting thing is is something that we just make
up to come up with a reason for this to
not get done.

Speaker 3 (48:44):
What's gonna set a precedent?

Speaker 2 (48:47):
It's gonna there's gonna be a long line of guys
now who there are gonna be a lot of players
who do want new deals. How many of them are
gonna have the wherewithal? Are the gravitas or the lever
Bridge or even have the public opinion on their side
if that matters that Jamar Chase has probably none, and

(49:09):
if we get to a point next year the year
after where they have a guy who has talked about
as being among the very very very very best at
their position. First of all, we'll look at the positional value,
like we did this with Jesse Bates. Right, positional value
just wasn't there in relation to other guys who play
other positions. So we'll look at positional value. We'll look

(49:31):
at what the market is doing, the market at wide
receiver has changed, and then see what the right course
of action is. There's a lot of things that would
have to happen for the Bengals to be put in
a position where they've got another guy with two years
left on his deal who wants a new contract. This
is just not something I would spend a lot of
time worrying about. If I'm Katie Blackburn, Troy Blackburn, Elizabeth Blackburn,

(49:55):
Mike Brown, Duke Tobin, or anybody else, you are welcome
to tell me why I'm wrong. Five point three, seven,
four nine, fifteen thirty. You see host Pitt on Saturday
twenty eight. Team is going to be in attendance. A
loaded Hall of Fame class is being inducted in just
about two weeks. And you see basketball is gonna play

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Ohio State for charity Lots to get to with John Cunningham.

Speaker 4 (50:19):
Next, Sythany is football. I THEINNETI brought to you in
part by modern office methods on the official home of
the Bengals, Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen thirty.

Speaker 2 (50:31):
All right, we'll jump back to the Bengals here in
a bit. You see football a home game on Saturday,
the River City rivalry returns to Knippert Stadium. You see
beat pitt last year. Pittsburgh terrific in their first game
this season against Kent State. Parakat's trying to build upon
how they played against Towson. That is a noon kickoff.

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I love it when Cincinnati and Pittsburgh play against each other.
We also have the return of many players from the
twenty eighteen that team will be recognized, won the Big
East title, played in a BCS Bowl. The U SEE
Hall of Fame class of twenty twenty four, which is
absolutely loaded, is going to be inducted into the Schools
Athletics Hall of Fame in just about two and a

(51:13):
half weeks. The fall sports season is off to a
great start, and you see men's basketball is gonna host
Ohio State in a charity exhibition game. There's only a
little bit going on at you see the director of
athletics at the University of Cincinnati, John Cunningham, is with us.
I can't believe you even have time for us. It's
good to have you. What's going on.

Speaker 12 (51:32):
It's always good to be on with Kimo.

Speaker 6 (51:34):
I think you got it all.

Speaker 12 (51:35):
Yeah, we always have a lot going on, but exciting
time of the year, obviously, and like you said, it
just feels right when Cincinnati's playing pit We're so similar
in so many ways in terms of our city makeup
and the history that we have, and so it's gonna
be a lot of fun hosting on on Saturday.

Speaker 2 (51:53):
It is, and I think you know it's appropriate that
the twenty eight team is going to be there, or
a lot of guys from the twenty eighteen because when
I when I think of when I think of signature
victories during that stretch of time, everybody remembers the O
nine game when they go to Hinz Field, but them
beating Pittsburgh in two thousand and eight was such a landmark,
signature event. I can still remember the fans storming the field.

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I can still remember them having to wrap things up
the following week against Syracuse. It's only appropriate that you
bring so many of those players back for the pit
game on Saturday.

Speaker 12 (52:24):
Yeah, it's gonna be a blast. We're still hearing about
who all is going to make it back. We know
we know a few names, and so we're gonna have
a lot of them. It's been surprising how many are
going to be making their way back to Cincinnati. And
obviously Tony Pike was such an important part of that.
So he'll be prominently, uh prominently displayed throughout the throughout

(52:44):
the game, and we have a tailgate before the game,
and we'll have him there and ask him a few
questions about what he remembers about that game and that season.

Speaker 2 (52:52):
And you know, Marty Gilliard on that team You've got
and you know, I don't have in front of me
every James P. Kelly Hall of Fame class that the
University of Cincinnati has ever had. I would challenge any
to find one that is more loaded with the caliber
of athletes, the accomplishment that athletes can can be proud

(53:12):
of both for their time at UCE but also in
some cases international competition at the professional level. And so,
and the cool thing about this for me is you're
opening this year's Hall of Fame induction to the public.
So roll through for me, maybe for folks who have
never been to the Hall of Fame induction ceremony. What's
gonna happen on the night of September the twentieth.

Speaker 12 (53:33):
Yeah, well, it's up new We're doing it a little
different because of this class. We haven't really opened it
to the public this way before, so we're gonna host
it in fifth third on September twentieth. We have seven inductees.
One that has passed away that we will we will
recognize as well. But it's an incredible class. Number one,
I mean Marty Gilliard at Shaun Kilpatrick obviously huge names

(53:55):
that Bearcatz remember. But three Olympians as well too, that
one silver medals just this past Olympics, Jordan Thompson coming
back from volleyball. It's an incredible class, really something that
we wanted to highlight. So we will invite people to
buy tickets twenty five dollars tickets they get a chance
to be a part of the ceremony, hear the speeches,

(54:16):
see all the teammates of these athletes that are there
as well, and former coaches that are coming back. So
it's going to be a great night for you.

Speaker 2 (54:23):
Yeah, it's it's gonna be a lot of fun. And
you know it's it's always you mentioned something that I
think is important. It's it's a great night for those
individual athletes. It is also so much fun to watch
their teammates, their coaches, whether they're still at UC or not,
be a part of it because the ceremony means a
lot to them as well.

Speaker 12 (54:42):
Yeah, I love it. I mean it's great for our
current athletes too. We'll get a lot of them out
there to check it out because it's it's a reminder
that you know, time goes by really quickly and before
you know it, you might be coming back to you know,
highlight one of your former teammates and remember those those moments.
But the stories that people tell and the funny, the
funny behind the scene thing that you didn't know about

(55:03):
to come out at Hall of Fame inductions are always
fun to be a part of. So I'm sure we'll
hear some of that.

Speaker 2 (55:09):
The fall sports season is off to a great start.
Soccer off to a good so we had Erica Demurz
on the show last week. It feels like big things
are expected for her program in year two of her
tenure at UC and obviously also the Big twelve.

Speaker 12 (55:23):
Yeah, I appreciate you having Erica on. She's doing a
great job obviously in her second year. A couple star
freshmen this year won the scoring a whole bunch of
goals for us, which is which is fun in a
starting defender as a freshman. And then and then a
few of our seniors and juniors that are really stepping
up to so we expect big things from that program.

(55:44):
I was out there this sun. They had a really
nice crowd, So come on out to Getler and check
out our women's soccer team this fall.

Speaker 3 (55:51):
Got a bark in the Park event tomorrow night.

Speaker 2 (55:54):
As you see host Butler and and then the news
that came down maybe maybe twenty five thirty minutes ago.
Men basketball Cincinnati Ohio State at fifth third a charity
exhibition game. These are allowed now and you're seeing more
and more of them. I think this is great. From
a few different standpoints. Obviously, when there's the charity component,

(56:14):
which is very very important. I think it's also really
cool that fans get a chance to watch an exhibition game,
a scrimmage, if you will, see what the team might
have in store while they're still a work in progress.

Speaker 3 (56:26):
But it's against a peer. It's not against the Division III.

Speaker 2 (56:28):
School or an NIA school or a traveling group of Barnstormers.
It's gonna look and feel like a regular season college
basketball game with a greater purpose sort of looming over it.

Speaker 12 (56:40):
Yeah, these popped up a few years ago, and we
did partake in one before this, but this was a
great opportunity for us. Obviously, there's so much excitement around
our program. Season tickets are sold out. Everybody wants to
see get that first look at this team under West
Miller and see all the new guys. And so the
next thing is in an exhibition game, you get to
play everybody you know, not necessarily the starting lineup that

(57:03):
you would usually have, and get get deep into your bitch.
So I know Wes is excited about that. You get to,
you know, test out what you have a little bit
within the playo hot state. I mean, that's that's that's
something that's really important to At anytime we have a
chance to play Ohio State, we're gonna take that chance,
and so we expect we're going to get a full crowd.
Bear with us on on detailed. We're still kind of

(57:23):
pulling that together. There's a third party that runs these
charity games, so we're working with them on the details
of what that will look like from a ticketing standpoint, but.

Speaker 7 (57:31):
Should be a great game.

Speaker 12 (57:33):
Uh you know that first look at the men's basketball
team at Cincinnati.

Speaker 2 (57:36):
Sling it back to to football with me here for
a second, because you know, we were we were talking
in the run up to the Towson game about Knippert
Stadium and the wide out and some of the things
that make a Nipper unique this season as opposed to
previous years. And the feedback that I got was was
pretty good. You know, look, the the weather was warm,

(57:57):
it wasn't oppressively hot, which certainly helped. The game was entertaining.
It felt like everybody had a good time.

Speaker 12 (58:04):
Yeah, I mean, I was really happy with the crowd.
It felt right, It felt like it was time to
start the season, and so, you know, the students were incredible.
Passed the house there with the students and and you know,
just a few hundred tickets short, I think of a sellout,
so really good, good way to start the season. Great energy,

(58:24):
and a new concessioneer. A lot of new things around
the stadium that we are trying, and we'll continue to
tweak those to make those even better. But I think overall,
it was a very successful game all.

Speaker 11 (58:35):
The way around.

Speaker 2 (58:35):
And there was a shade for us in the home
broadcast booth to protect us from the sun. You probably
had no idea that even happened, but that is the
improvement we cared about the most.

Speaker 12 (58:45):
You got to do these little things. I didn't know
that happened, but I'm glad we got that done. Story,
so we'll keep working on that. I just know that
when Gus Johnson was here a while back, he said
our TV booth was too small, so that was a
little bit more difficult to change.

Speaker 14 (58:57):
But we got the shade for you.

Speaker 2 (58:59):
But sure, that's that's all. That's all we really cared about.
Other than that we had we had a blast. I
know you have a lot going on. I do appreciate
the time, John, Thank you so much.

Speaker 12 (59:08):
Always good to talk to you about thank you.

Speaker 2 (59:09):
Awesome to have you. The director of Athletics at the
University of Cincinnati, John Cunningham. And again that uc Ohio
State thing is going to be at fifth third on
the eighteenth, which is a Friday. If you're wondering the
football team is home the next day, it is a
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Speaker 4 (59:41):
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Speaker 2 (59:56):
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he practiced like he wasn't just at practiced, he practiced,
which was cool. Limited the Bengals first injury report of
the year. I'm looking at it right now. Jay Morrison
tweeted it about tweeted it out about fifteen minutes ago.
First of all, Joe Burr listed as full, Jamar Chase

(01:00:44):
listed as limited, non injury related rest limitation for Chris Jenkins.
Amarius Mims did practice, but limited as well. More tonight.
Bengals game plan six to eight Tonight on ESPN fifteen
to thirty Uh what else? What else? Bengals Patriots Live

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on ESPN fifteen thirty eight one o'clock on Sunday. Pregame
coverage from the Grail starts at nine excuse me, nine
toh five. Meanwhile, Red's and Astros resume their series tonight,
Cincinnati looking for a third consecutive win. Nick Martinez versus
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I think that's all I got for local sports headlines.
I think, I think. I think, by the way, we'll

(01:01:49):
have some audio a little bit later on of Dan
Orlowski from ESPN, who was terrific on Sincy three sixty
today talking about the Bengals and Jamar ch and so
much more. We'll have that for you. Also later on,
Dan Hurley is gonna be on our show, the Ruler
of the Jungle, the coach at Yukon, the two time

(01:02:10):
defending national champions. We're only gonna talk football, I think.
I mean, nobody hears that interested in his basketball team,
so we're gonna We're gonna have him on, and I
can't wait. I like Dan Hurley and he is probably
the best coach in college basketball right now.

Speaker 7 (01:02:32):
And so.

Speaker 2 (01:02:34):
You know, I know how this works when they announced it.
I didn't spend a lot of time on social media
over the weekend, but when they announced Dan Hurley Rule
of the Jungle, I'm sure there were big college basketball fans.
I'm wearing a UC Bearcats basketball shirt today. I'm gonna
have it on as I interviewed Dan Hurley. But I
know how this works probably some fans of certain programs.

(01:02:56):
Connecticut plays against Xavier in the Big East, used to
play against UC in the AAC. Dan Hurley said no
to Kentucky. So now they have Mark Pope, and so
you have like three fan bases that might not like
Dan Hurley. Okay, then then then don't go to the
game The Ruler of the Jungle.

Speaker 3 (01:03:15):
Correct me if I'm wrong. Is they don't show that
on TV.

Speaker 2 (01:03:18):
It's a CBS game, right, That's not gonna be on CBS.
So the only way you're gonna see it is if
you're at the game. And I'll be honest with you,
I've been to since they started doing Ruler of the Jungle.
There have been plenty of times that the Ruler of
the Jungle ceremony has happened and I haven't noticed. And

(01:03:40):
so if you're mad at the fact that Dan Hurley's
going to be the guy for those ninety seconds, go
do something else. If you're mad that we're having them
on the show, sorry, the rest of the show will
be your liking, I hope, including our next guest. Who's
gonna tell us what the Jamar Chays contract is going

(01:04:01):
to look like? If it gets done now versus it
getting done this coming off season. That's next on ESPN
fifteen thirty, Cincinnati Sports station.

Speaker 3 (01:04:10):
Mom Me Sarah from First.

Speaker 1 (01:04:13):
This is Dan Horr joined Dave Lapoman Me for Bengals
game Plan tonight, starting at six on the official home
of the Bengals, Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen thirty.

Speaker 2 (01:04:28):
I neglected to mention something very very important in the
local sports headlines, and I'll tell you what it is
coming up in just about five minutes. Brendanman and Jones
on baseball coming up as well. We try to be
thorough and we try to be complete. And I ran
through the list of local sports headlines things happening tonight,

(01:04:49):
and I forgot something and it just occurred to me,
and so I've got to correct myself. But I don't
want to make our guest wait. He is the host
of US Suomer Daily, part of Summer Sports. Former one
linebacker Sam brook Houses with Sam joined us a few
months ago. We started to talk about the Jamar Chase
contract and how Justin Jefferson's deal would impact Ceedee Lamb,
who has obviously since signed, and what it might do

(01:05:12):
for Jamar Chase, who were many of us were hoping
signs a deal before Sunday, and I wanted to bring
Sam back kind enough to join us on reasonably short notice.

Speaker 3 (01:05:22):
It is good to have you, Sam, How are you.

Speaker 13 (01:05:25):
Great?

Speaker 14 (01:05:25):
Thank you for having me back.

Speaker 3 (01:05:26):
Here's what I.

Speaker 2 (01:05:27):
Want to know. So Ceedee Lamb gets his contract, you
gets his contract in San Francisco, the Justin Jefferson deal
has been done. Jamar has two years left on his contract. Uh,
walk me through the differences in what the deal will
look like if he were to sign today versus he
doesn't sign, he plays, he has a typical Jamar Chase year,

(01:05:51):
and then the Bengals try to sign him next offseason.

Speaker 3 (01:05:53):
How different would the two deals look.

Speaker 14 (01:05:57):
So, in any NFL contract negotiation, there's really two elements
at play. The first is the cap and the second
is the cash. Obviously, the Bengals typically have been a
team that does not want to guarantee cash in the future.
So if he signs this year, you can expect it
to probably be at the similar rates as Ceedee Lamb

(01:06:20):
as Justin Jefferson, maybe a little higher than ayuk or
in that range as well. And what that means for
Cincinnati is, you know, a top five salary all time,
probably heavily in that signing bonus given how they've operated
in the past. Now taking it to the cap, the

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cap increases every year, and in fact there it's kind
of an unprecedented cap increase this year. As a result,
teams like the Eagles will sometimes really push to extend
their young players in their third or fourth year as
and we saw this kind of play out with the
Smith in order to kind of play the cards and

(01:07:04):
take quote a discount as that market continues to go
up with the cat. So, to answer the question succinctly,
next year, it's probably going to cost the Bengals more. However,
the cap will also go up this year. It's probably
going to be in that Ceedee Lamb range, and so
you can expect it to be a big contract.

Speaker 6 (01:07:22):
Either way.

Speaker 14 (01:07:22):
They may be able to take a little bit of
money by doing it this year.

Speaker 2 (01:07:25):
I don't recall, because I'm an idiot if I asked
you this question when you came on with me last time.
But we've seen the wide receiver market explode. Jamar is
about to be one of the beneficiaries of that. T
Higgins hopes to be one of the beneficiaries of that
next offseason at some point at that position, is the
bubble going to burst.

Speaker 14 (01:07:47):
It's a tough question, because you know, the tides of
the premium positions always kind of move. We're seeing right
now kind of a lot of people invest money in
because the tackles, for example, and in the past that
wasn't necessarily looked at as a premium position as compared
to the edge position. The wide receivers are tricky because

(01:08:09):
each year we see people want to pass more, people
want to see inflated offensive numbers, and that's also kind
of a league trend as well. Down from the league office,
I'm of the mind that this bubble will not pop
and that prices will continue going up, and I think, frankly,
the Ceedee Lamb contract is a show of that in

(01:08:31):
several facets. It is a It is the second largest
of all time under the Jefferson contract. However, in terms
of signing bonus, it actually is the largest. And so
given the Bengals in particular don't love guarantee money after
the first year, that means a lot to the Bengals
and whether they extend him this year or.

Speaker 2 (01:08:52):
Next year, Jamar and you know, all summer long he
has been lumped in with this, this this trio of
wide receiver Brandon I obviously Ceedee Lamb and now Jamar Chase.

Speaker 3 (01:09:02):
Two of those other guys got their deals. Those two players.

Speaker 2 (01:09:06):
Have one had one year remaining on their existing contracts
when they went to the negotiating table. Jamar, as we
keep repeating here, obviously has two years remaining. Around the
NFL our owners looking at Cincinnati going, look, man, don't
do it because we don't want a flood of players
hitting us up for new contracts when they've got two

(01:09:27):
years remaining. Or is that part of it overblown.

Speaker 14 (01:09:31):
It's an interesting question, and people have kind of divided
takes on it. I mentioned the Eagles earlier. Some people
just want to extend thinking that you know, they know
their player, their player will continue to play well and
they will reap some you know, down year benefits from
giving them a contract now and expecting that the cap
will continue to go up and up and up, and

(01:09:52):
there will be lower will it will be a lower
percentage of that credit card quote unquote. On the flip side,
cash is team and when those dollars get and when
those checks get cashed, it makes a big difference in
these markets, So you know, the agents are pushing for that.
Obviously the players who are represented by the agents are

(01:10:13):
pushing for that. So there's kind of two sides of it.
I think probably the owners are are signing the bills
and checking the bills and want to keep that cash
and check. I think some of the general managers may
want to play with the cap or how the contracts
are structured. But at the end of the day, I
think you're correct. The market is the market, and the

(01:10:36):
people would rather wait to pay millions and millions of
dollars than pay it right now in a lot of cases.

Speaker 2 (01:10:43):
Yeah, that makes sense. Sam. Awesome to have you, man.
I appreciate you joining us on short notice. Thanks so much.

Speaker 14 (01:10:49):
Thank you all for having me.

Speaker 9 (01:10:50):
You got it.

Speaker 2 (01:10:50):
Sam brook House is the host of a Suomer Daily,
part of Suomer Sports, which we've had the folks on
at Sumer often over the last few years. Sam kind
enough to join us ten away from five o'clock Brenneman
and Jones on baseball. I did the local sports headlines
and told you like, here's everything happening, and I neglected
to mention that tonight is a very very special event.

(01:11:12):
You know, over the last week and a half or so,
around the country and certainly around the city, there have been,
you know, fantasy football drafts, and some of them take
place exclusively online, and some of them, you know, people
meet at someone's house or go to a bar, and
there's always a lot of They're always a lot of fun.
There is one particular league in the greater Cincinnati area

(01:11:34):
that waits until the very last minute to hold their
draft and is easily, I think, without question, the single
most difficult fantasy football league to win in the United
States of America. Its draft is tonight. I would mention
whereds at but I'm not gonna the league hooday draft.

(01:11:57):
Person you're listening to right now has won this league twice.
It has been a while. I'm not sure we've had
a three time winner, but I aim to be this year.
It starts at seven thirty now. Some of us are
tied up with other responsibilities and so we have to
do it online. But those of us who will be
online would love to be there in person because it's

(01:12:17):
a blast and the place we're going to as a blast.
But if you happen to be at a place in o'brienville,
and you see a bunch of guys with their laptops
and tablets.

Speaker 3 (01:12:32):
They are preparing.

Speaker 2 (01:12:33):
This is the hardest fantasy football league to win, almost impossible.
Its draft is tonight at seven thirty.

Speaker 3 (01:12:45):
Brendanman and Jones on Baseball is next. Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen thirty.

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do that all season long, Bengals and Patriots and if
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Bengals fan who also happens to be a basketball coach.

(01:14:18):
Jamar Practice today limited on the official Bengals injury report.
This is the first time during this entire process where
the Bengals have to issue an injury report because that's
how the NFL works. But he was out there, he
had his helmet on, he was with his teammates, he
was doing stuff. That is a step in the right direction.
Also good news, Amarus Mims practiced limited but practiced helmet uniform.

(01:14:43):
That is a positive development and a step in the
right direction for him.

Speaker 3 (01:14:48):
As for Jamar, you can do what you want.

Speaker 2 (01:14:51):
I know what I'm going to do because I kind
of got burned last week. I think a lot of
people got burned last week. Thing Zach Taylor got burned
last week. I'm gonna use I'm gonna use Zach's verbiage here.
I'm gonna take I'm gonna take his advice. We're calling
him day to day. That's maybe not advice, but that's
we're calling him day to day. So Jamar practice today.

(01:15:15):
I am going to take that, put it in a
vacuum and call it a good day. Today is a
good day. Let's have a good day tomorrow. Then let's
have a good day on Friday, good day on Saturday,
and then hopefully Jamar plays on Sunday. Certainly, him practicing
today would suggest that there is a stronger likelihood of

(01:15:36):
him playing on Sunday than maybe we believed at this
point yesterday or on Monday when he wasn't practicing. By
the way, I guess Jamar is gonna chat with the
media on Friday, which could be revealing, could let us
know once and for all he's gonna play. But I'm
not gonna assume anything. I'm not gonna assume that he's
not gonna play. I don't think that's fair right now,

(01:15:56):
because he has returned. Had he not, well, that's been
my ass for the last week. But I'm not gonna
go ahead and assume that he is going to play.
Let's just take it day by day. That rhynd I
didn't mean for it too, but certainly a step in.

Speaker 3 (01:16:10):
The right direction. I've heard this.

Speaker 2 (01:16:15):
And last year, the Kansas City Chiefs and Detroit Lions
played in the NFL season open, Kansas City obviously hosting
the game as the defending Super Bowl champions. They take
on Detroit Lions won the game, and there is there's

(01:16:35):
nothing quite like that first NFL regular season game. Months
of anticipation. It's always a premier matchup. It's always on NBC.
You don't have to go find a streaming service. They
are putting a game on Peacock on Friday, which for
some reason is being played in Brazil. I'm not sure
I understand that. But the first game of the NFL

(01:16:58):
season is a big deal. Premier teams, great players, It's
the start of the season where everybody's optimistic. It's the kickoff,
if you will, of the first real full football weekend
we have. It's a huge event, massive television numbers, big

(01:17:19):
gambling night, good fantasy football night. So last year, right
as the Chiefs and Lions were kicking off, it gets
reported Joe Burrow got his contract. The Bengals didn't make
the announcement. It was reported Adam Schefter had it first.
Was that leaked by Joe Burrow's agent. Probably, now you

(01:17:44):
had folks who looked at that and said, see, here's
here's here's some gamesmanship by Joe Burrow, and here's some
gamesmanship and even pettiness by the Bengals. They're announcing this
to overshadow the game the Chiefs are playing. This is
how intense of a rivalry this is, And maybe there

(01:18:06):
was something to that. Can I ask a question, in
this day and age we live in, where we're all
asked to divide our attention in any number of ways,
where I think we're more capable of dividing our attention
in any number of ways. Is there legitimately anything that

(01:18:27):
could happen in sports?

Speaker 3 (01:18:31):
In sports, I'm not talking real life.

Speaker 2 (01:18:33):
I get there's some sort of national tragedy in sports
that could completely take people's attention away from a game
between the Kansas City Chiefs and the Baltimore Ravens to
start the season. Like I go back to last year,
I'll never forget it. Man, the game is kicking off.

(01:18:53):
I had just put my daughter to bed. I come downstairs,
pour myself a cold one. I'm gonna watch the first
see on my phone. Burrow got his deal, sent an
obligatory tweet, and then watched the football game, and then
over the course of the evening would kind of glance
here or there what people were saying about the Burrow contract,

(01:19:13):
or had the Bengals, had they announced a press conference
or anything like that, and then went back to watching
the football game like this, this notion of, well, the Bengals,
if they do this, it's it's gonna take everybody's attention
away from an event that has been anticipated for months and.

Speaker 3 (01:19:33):
By the way, a huge game.

Speaker 2 (01:19:35):
Chiefs Ravens, a rematch of the AFC Championship Game two.
As much as you might not want to admit this
to bona fide title contenders, absolute star power, Patrick Mahomes,
Lamar Jackson. So you mean to tell me, if the
Bengals announce, then a wide receiver, a great wide receiver,

(01:19:56):
but a wide receiver has gotten his contract extension, and
that tens of millions of people who would otherwise be
watching a high profile football game will be so wrapped
up in the dollar amount that Jamar has signed for
and the precedent the Bengals are setting in their own
franchise for signing a non quarterback when he's got two

(01:20:18):
years left on his deal, that the game is just
going to take place and nobody's going to pay attention
or notice like that? Is that really a thing?

Speaker 7 (01:20:29):
Now?

Speaker 3 (01:20:29):
We're Bengals fans.

Speaker 2 (01:20:30):
So the Jamar Chase thing, if let's say it got
done tomorrow at eight o'clock or eight thirty, right when
the game is starting, it would be a bigger deal
for me than say somebody sitting in I don't know,
Minnesota or Michigan or New Jersey or somewhere out there
in New Mexico. Right like for you and I would
be a big deal, but you would probably still keep

(01:20:52):
an eye on the football game, because well, we love
the sport of football, which is why we're interested in
stuff like Jamar Chase and his contract. Help me with this,
help me with this, like narrative, Well, if they do that,
it would be a shot across the bow with the
Chiefs and Ravens. Haha, we got Jamar Chase. I mean, like,
I hope it happens. I think it'd be fun if

(01:21:12):
it happened today tomorrow. I just kind of wanted to
happen so we could just move on to something else.
But are we do we do? We really have people
among us who can only focus on one thing, and
if you throw at them, hey, an NFL team signed
a player who already plays for them, that they're not
going to be able to focus on a football game

(01:21:33):
between two NFL powerhouses with two superstar quarterbacks. If that's
really a thing, please explain. Five point three seven four nine,
fifteen thirty. I was gonna do this poll question today,
I'll move it to tomorrow. I said to Paul yesterday
in that game tomorrow night, I'm rooting for Baltimore because

(01:21:58):
I love the idea of going to Kansas City and
having a chance to make them owe in two with
still two cracks at Baltimore. And while the AFC West
is interesting in large part because of what's happening with
the Chargers, the AFC North is still so competitive that
I assume, as good as Baltimore may be, they're gonna

(01:22:20):
take their beatings and the Bengals have a chance to
give them two. So I'm rooting for Baltimore. We'll do
that pull question tomorrow. One of the two we did today,
one was about Joe Burrow owing us money, the other
was about it it's guest time. My guess is Bengals
go eleven and six, and I don't really go beyond that.
I don't factor in hypothetical playoff matchups. I think it's

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an eleven and sixteen. I don't think. I don't think
Pittsburgh can get to eleven wins. I'm still skeptical that
Cleveland can. But if Deshaun Watson turns into the old
old Deshaun Watson, then it's a possibility. I'm just with
each passing day less convinced that's gonna happen. Baltimore is
still going to be very very good. They lost a

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lot of dudes from that team a year ago, so
eleven and six might get it done. My guess is
if the Bengals are eleven and six, that they're gonna
be tied with Baltimore at eleven and six, and then
it's gonna come down to tiebreakers. My eleven and six.
It's interesting you say that and some people think that
that doesn't sound very optimistic. Well, I guess I kind

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of broke it down like this, and it's not the
most scientific way I will. I will admit that, first
of all, they do play in an exceptionally tough division,
and so I'm just building in an expectation of three
and three in the AFC North. Again, that might not
sound very optimistic, but they went one in five against
the division last year. That included losses while Burrow was playing,

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and even with Burrough playing a full season two years ago,
we saw the issues they had on the road teams
in the AFC North. So I'm just I'm building in
and I'm kind of doing this for everybody in the division. Now. Realistically,
is everybody gonna go three and three? Probably not, but
I think it's I think these teams are so cloistered together,
and I think they're so good, and we're talking about

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really good coaches and in some cases at least really
good quarterbacks and in some cases terrific defenses. I'm building
in three losses, so where are the other is gonna
come from? My guess is they lose to Kansas City
Week two. Not that far fetched case is going to
have a rest advantage. Bengals had won for their game

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last year, but I think most of his view that
game as kind of a coin flip. Cincinnati Kansas City
games have been awesome, It's probably gonna be awesome. Put
a gun in my head and tell me to make
a pick. My guess is Kansas City wins. So then
there's a whole bunch of games. Philly, Chargers, Dallas, I'll

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throw Tennessee in.

Speaker 3 (01:25:03):
They're all winnable. My guess is there's a loss somewhere
in there, so that's five, and then there's always a game.
And I'll be honest with you, I don't feel so
great about this, in large part because of how front
loaded the schedule is with bad teams. It's impossible for
me to think they lose to New England. It's less

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impossible for me to think they lose to Washington. But
do we really think they're gonna lose to Washington in
primetime in September? No, do we think they go to
Carolina early in the season. Now, admittedly a little bit
of a trap primetime in front Baltimore and back Charlotte's
gonna have forty thousand Bengals fans. So I hedged this

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a little bit because some of those games that you
would just expect them to win are early in the season,
whereas it stands, the reason either rookie coaches or rookie
quarterbacks a little bit better equipped later in the season.
But I just I feel like we should build in,
or at least I'm going to build in a loss
in a game that before the season you think there's
no way they lose.

Speaker 2 (01:26:07):
Last year that was Houston. Now Houston, obviously with CJ. Stroud,
ended up being exponentially better and frankly more fun to
watch than anybody ever would have imagined. But if I
would have said last September fourth Bengals are going to
lose at home to Houston, you would have said there's
no way. And yet it happened, and they had a
remarkable comeback to make that a game, but the Bengals did,

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but it happened.

Speaker 3 (01:26:30):
So I'm going eleven and six. You can vote.

Speaker 2 (01:26:32):
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Speaker 2 (01:27:06):
Two things I really enjoyed twenty two after five ESPN
fifteen thirty. Someone else who's work I enjoy from Local
twelve and Local twelve dot com, who's joined us on
Wednesdays during the football season for years, is our buddy,
Richard Skinner, who has been busy covering Jamar Chase also
the Bengals. Hi, Skinny, Mo, I.

Speaker 13 (01:27:27):
Got to tell you, I've heard you got a bigger
guest on than me coming up this hour, which I
think is pretty cool. Dan Hurley obviously, but do you
know this is my rare humble brag. He's one of
two national champion coaches you have on this hour. Really,
I won one with an AAU team in twenty fifteen.
We won a national championship in Greensboro, North Carolina.

Speaker 2 (01:27:47):
Now, Dan Hurley parlayed winning the title this year he
got to visit the White House and he got offered
a contract by the LA Lakers. Did either of those
two things happen to you.

Speaker 13 (01:27:57):
No, I got offered the varsity assistant john back at
a school at coach, but for Beechwood. So I feel
good about that.

Speaker 3 (01:28:01):
Very similar, Yes, very similar.

Speaker 2 (01:28:03):
I'll run those credentials past him and see how impressed.

Speaker 13 (01:28:06):
He is.

Speaker 14 (01:28:08):
Exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:28:09):
Uh, Jamar Chase is gonna play Sunday, right?

Speaker 9 (01:28:13):
I don't know.

Speaker 14 (01:28:15):
I don't.

Speaker 13 (01:28:17):
I don't think he knows that.

Speaker 6 (01:28:18):
I mean that.

Speaker 13 (01:28:18):
I think today was good faith gesture. It was maybe
a sign, and I don't know this for a fact,
maybe a sign they're getting closer. I think it was
more him to be honest with you, saying, listen, if
something gets done, I want to be ready to play.
I think that says a lot about him. I don't
think he's completely blinked. I will tell you this as

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you know, you've been around this long enough. You do
a stairdown contest with Mike Brown, he never blinks, So
you're not winning the staredown contest. And so I don't
know there's a clear winner yet in that. And you know,
being limited today didn't really tell me much. I thought
that was probably gonna be the case. That doesn't say
one thing or another, like he just showed up the

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show up. I don't think because he's not gone through
much he was going to do much in anything, and
he probably didn't get some positioned girls. It looked like
with the Bengals showed we didn't get a chance to
see very much in the open portion of the media.
He's supposed to talk to us on Friday, and if
that gets canceled, then I would tell you it probably
leans more towards him not playing, or if he decides

(01:29:23):
to talk, then maybe we'll find out where things stand.
So I wouldn't I wouldn't read a ton into it
other than the fact that I said of if he
thinks he has a shot to play on Sunday, he
wants to get himself as much of an opportunity to
be ready for that. I think that's what those two
practices were the week before the Sunday Monday practices which
everyone went Dad got over and he really didn't do much.

(01:29:44):
But I think with him saying, hey, I just want
to I want to check every box if I can play,
I want to be ready to play as much as
I can, I think that's a that is a good
Baate gesture on his part, but I don't think it
signifies really anything, to be honest.

Speaker 2 (01:29:56):
So he did go through those two workouts early last week,
and then he didn't play on Wednesday, and I kind
of felt like public opinion pivoted a little bit away
from him. And I get the sense that if suddenly
tomorrow he doesn't work out, something similar is going to happen.
You've covered Jamar Chase for a while. Do you think
he cares about that?

Speaker 13 (01:30:17):
I don't listen. And I said this before, I want
people get mad about it. And this is not a
knock on players. While we all want them to be
all in on winning, and winning always beats losing, right,
It doesn't anything we do in life for him, for
any guy, for any player, it's how do I maximize
what I can make? And so I think for him.

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That's where we're out of How can I maximize it?
When can I maximize it? How can I have peace
of mind of guaranteed money? And where is my leverage point?
And I think his camps believed his leverage point is
right now, missing a bunch of training camp and seeing
at the Bengals.

Speaker 12 (01:30:54):
Blink, Well, they didn't.

Speaker 13 (01:30:55):
You we are in game week. They haven't blinked yet.
Maybe they're closer, but yeah, I think for him, it's
just it's such a gray area because I don't think
there's a winner and I don't think there's a loser.
I think the Bengals are at full. I know most
fans believe that, hey, just pay him, and that's I
get it. And I don't think he's at full. I
think he listen, if I'm risking the let's just say

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I'm risking one hundred and forty million dollars and one
hundred and whatever twenty ten guaranteed by getting hurt in
Game four catastrophically to the point where I never get
that money. I get why I'm not going to risk
that for one million dollars in day salary this season.
I completely get that, But I have to play to
get the Bengals side of Hey man, this is the
way the CBA works. You get a rookie contract, this
is where you're at, and we we we've got you

(01:31:39):
for next year because of the fifth year option of
twenty one point eight bill. That's the CBA. I'm sorry
for it, but that's the way this this ball bounces.

Speaker 3 (01:31:48):
You.

Speaker 2 (01:31:48):
You know the people who run this franchise better than
almost anybody, and so you know how they think, and
you know how they operate. The guy they didn't pay
T Higgins signs his tag in June, shows up to
all the workouts, plays in the preseason, saying all the
right things by all accounts, having a great camp. Do

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you feel like there's any amount of pause where they go, Huh,
here's the guy that we're not paying, and he's doing
everything we want and the guy that we have said
on the record we're going to pay has turned this
into at least a minor circus. Do you think that's
part of the thinking upstairs at all?

Speaker 13 (01:32:27):
I do. I don't think it comes to that, because
I truly think the timeline for Jamar in their mind
was always after this season, in this next offseason. I
do we can argue the semantics. You had a great
guest on Consumer Sports. I heard him and I was
driving home, and I thought he laid out, you know
the scenario of why maybe pay him now? And why
maybe not? But why maybe pay him now? So I

(01:32:50):
do think that timeline has always been there. But if
you come to the complete impass where it's nuclear, where
he doesn't play all season, I don't think it comes
to that. But again, let's just go nuclear here. He
decides to say, to heck with this, you can take
take every one of my game checks of a million
dollars year.

Speaker 9 (01:33:04):
I ain't risking it.

Speaker 13 (01:33:05):
You guys, do what you gotta do. I think at
that point then you have to go, Okay, well, there's
an ill will between both parties and we can't move
forward this. Yeah, we've got him for twenty one point
eight mil, and he'll probably play on that in twenty
twenty five. But yeah, let's just say T has a
great year because Jamar doesn't play. Again, we're going nuclear here,
right MO. Let's just say he goes for ninety two catches,

(01:33:27):
for thirteen hundred yards and twelve touchdowns because he gets
targeted far more rough because Jamar isn't here. Maybe at
that point you okay, well you're the guy we're gonna
wind up paying. I don't think it comes to that.
I truly believe, I truly believe Jamar's camp is unfortunately
gonna blink in this contest and he's gonna play. But

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there's also the possibility that his side of the camp
comes down the money and says, Okay, here's what we'll
play for. You know, we want to do more than
justin Jefferson. Get us to this level, and we'll do it.
And I think that's where we're riding. Guess probably at
in the negotiation process, if the Bengals have a number,
and as you know, they go, Carson Palmer, you want
to retire, my man, go retire? They Tony, if you
want to go somewhere else till somewhere else. They told

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Jesse Bates, you want to go somewhere else till somewhere else.
Doesn't mean it's right, but it's the standard operating procedure.
So if they think they're gonna squeeze a whole lot
of nickels more than what they've probably written down on
a napkin and slid across the table and go, here's
what we're gonna pay you, and there's always a little
given cake, but here's what we're gonna pay you. And
the guys slip the naping and goes nope. And they

(01:34:30):
can keep sliding that napkin back and forth, but eventually
a napkin if they want to play for the Bengals
and side with the Bengals, is probably gonna go in
their favor.

Speaker 2 (01:34:36):
How many players would have to choose not to play
on Sunday for them to lose to the New England Patriots.

Speaker 13 (01:34:42):
They would have to only play twelve guys, and they
would have to play both Kyt Brow would have to
play both right tackle and inside left tackle and play
one hundred and twenty six snaps and come close to
passing out for them to lose to the Patriots. That's
a really bad football team.

Speaker 2 (01:34:56):
Yeah, I mean, like they're probably okay on defense. Offensively,
I'm not sure there's the worst roster in the NFL.

Speaker 5 (01:35:03):
No.

Speaker 13 (01:35:03):
I mean, when you go into Week one going, we
have no idea where our left tackle is and we're
not sure he can block. That's an issue.

Speaker 14 (01:35:10):
That's a big time.

Speaker 13 (01:35:11):
Issue, man, you know. And obviously then chills him not
to play Drake May not because probably the.

Speaker 9 (01:35:16):
Tooty percent is a better option.

Speaker 13 (01:35:17):
You don't want to get your rookie quarterback killed. You know,
most teams in the league, as you know, when the
rookie quarterbacks ready, you play him. And it seems like
Drake May is more than ready to play. Other than saying, hey,
we're gonna turn you into David Carr Part two where
you get sacked seventy seven times your first season and
seventy eight times or next season and you're never the
same guy.

Speaker 2 (01:35:34):
Yeah, good luck with that, all right?

Speaker 14 (01:35:36):
What was it?

Speaker 3 (01:35:36):
What was the national twenty fifteen.

Speaker 13 (01:35:39):
Twenty fifteen thirteen u AAU National Championship on it in
Greensboro Coliseum where they've played National Championship NCAA games before.
I'm sure Dan Hurley is a is a history of Buffalo.

Speaker 3 (01:35:50):
Will love to know that knowledge.

Speaker 2 (01:35:52):
So twenty fifteen John Caliperry doesn't win a national championship,
Richard Skinner does. Wow, that is correct.

Speaker 13 (01:35:58):
Interesting And my assistant, he's the one that put the
team together one Chris McGuire, So I got to give
a shout out to him. He was the man that
was a scouting man and assistant coach, and we those
kids are great. They're still in my heart, name my memory.

Speaker 2 (01:36:11):
Very good. All right, Well, hopefully I am too. We'll
talk to you next week. Thanks so much.

Speaker 13 (01:36:15):
You always saw that.

Speaker 2 (01:36:17):
Richard Skinner from Local twelve and Local twelve dot com.
Dan Hurley is going to join us. In just about
eleven minutes on ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station.

Speaker 4 (01:36:29):
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Speaker 3 (01:36:38):
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Speaker 1 (01:36:45):
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Speaker 3 (01:36:47):
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Time for Joe Burrow and his boys to put on
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Get the call from Dan Hood and Dave Lap Coverage
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Speaker 2 (01:37:04):
Home of the Lagals, Chase Limited, MIMS Limited. Bengals practice today,
Burrow Full Go Bengals game plans, six to eight sports
headlines and service of Kelsey Chevrolet. Reds play the Astros
tonight in a game that mathematically is a possible World
Series preview. Dan Hurley's going to join us in just
a few minutes. I've got like two and a half

(01:37:25):
minutes here. And Mike, it's been a while. It's good
to have you. We don't have a lot of time.
What's going on, Mike? Yeah, yeah, go ahead, come to you. Okay,
come to the phone.

Speaker 3 (01:37:41):
What's going on?

Speaker 7 (01:37:43):
I have to change my idea.

Speaker 2 (01:37:44):
I'm sorry, I understand, very good. What's up?

Speaker 13 (01:37:48):
Okay? I got four picks for you for the weekend.

Speaker 7 (01:37:51):
I want to see what you think of my picks.

Speaker 15 (01:37:54):
I'm taking the South Florida Bulls. I'm taking Texas to
against Michigan. I'm taking to Dallas the Houston Texans and
their game. And I'm taking the Bucks.

Speaker 17 (01:38:06):
Versus the Commanders, even though the Commanders they have a
great front seven. But I'll tell you what, Todd Bowles
is going to way licking on Jaydon Daniels with blitzes
from everywhere under the sun.

Speaker 2 (01:38:16):
Well, of the of the four that you gave me,
the one that I feel strongest about is Texas covering
the number. At that last glance, it was they were
laying seven. I don't know if that line has moved
at all. But I do like the Longhorns seven and
a half, seven and a half, Yeah, I think they're
going to cover that number.

Speaker 15 (01:38:34):
I think they might whip them.

Speaker 17 (01:38:35):
Any familiarity with the South Florida.

Speaker 2 (01:38:38):
Game off the top of my head, no, But we're
researching tonight for tomorrow's Locks of the Weekend NFL preview,
and that's when we'll start to do some work on
the college picks for week two.

Speaker 15 (01:38:50):
Okay, I'll get off that.

Speaker 7 (01:38:52):
You think Otani's got a chance for the fifty to fifty.

Speaker 2 (01:38:55):
Yeah, what's he at?

Speaker 3 (01:38:56):
Forty three?

Speaker 2 (01:38:57):
Forty three? Now forty six, now forty three, forty six
now with what twenty four to twenty three games to
go something like that?

Speaker 10 (01:39:06):
Right?

Speaker 14 (01:39:07):
Yeah?

Speaker 17 (01:39:08):
And he's had a couple of we're having a thunderstorm here.
That happens once every thirty years, Oh Tani. You know,
he's had a couple of months where he hit twelve
home runs. He's had a couple of months where he's
hit seven home runs. So I'm just hoping he can
wear He already broke.

Speaker 7 (01:39:22):
The record, right, forty three, forty three, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:39:25):
But fifty to fifty, that's that's in a higher echelon, right, Yeah,
it's it's been ridiculous. Yeah, So he's had two months
where he said twelve. He had twelve in August, twelve
in June. If I'm not mistaken. They've got how many
games did Dodgers have left? Reds have twenty three? So
the Dodgers have to be in that basic vicinity correct,
twenty two two twenty two games to go. I'm sure

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he's not going to play in all of them, but
they are in a race for the top seed. They're
in a race for one of the top two seeds.
So he's gonna play almost every day. He's got a month, Yeah,
he'll be He'll be our first fifty to fifty guy.
We make a big deal all the time when free
agents go to a new city and don't live up
to the hype. Shoe Hamotani has somehow, And think about this,

(01:40:08):
he was the MVP last year, led the league in everything,
and yet he has somehow gone to LA and exceeded
the hype. And it feels like, I know, people talked
about him going back to Anaheim and they gave him
a standing ovation, which is what he deserved. It feels
like nobody's really talking about that. He's the biggest star
in the sport. He has somehow exceeded the hype, although

(01:40:30):
statistically in many respects not as good as last year.

Speaker 3 (01:40:33):
He's got a chance to be a fifty to fifty guy.
He plays in a.

Speaker 2 (01:40:36):
Huge market, and it feels like nobody's really talking about it.
We could talk about it more tomorrow, Mike, but I
gotta run.

Speaker 15 (01:40:43):
Thanks moving last night.

Speaker 2 (01:40:45):
Uh The Bengals ruler of the Jungle for Sunday's game,
Dan Hurley joins us next.

Speaker 3 (01:40:51):
What's up football fans? Joe burrowin with Tony Pipe. We
want to move on, doctor Keith Gorn and Boston Elmore.

Speaker 6 (01:40:58):
I think you should continue to keep going there.

Speaker 16 (01:41:00):
Sincy three sixty tomorrow which twelve noons on ESPN fifteen thirty.

Speaker 2 (01:41:06):
The Bengals game Plan is on in twenty minutes Dan
Horde and Dave Lapham And by the way, tomorrow we're
broadcasting from the Munios Foundation top Golf Tailgate with Anthony
Munios and many many others. Looking forward to that Sunday,
the season opener for the Bengals. Their ruler of the
Jungle will be two time national championship coach Dan Hurley,

(01:41:29):
who obviously his Yukon Huskies won the twenty twenty four
NCAA Men's Basketball Championship, winning it for a second consecutive year.
He is, as has been well documented over the years,
a die hard Bengals fan deskite despite growing up in
New Jersey, and nice enough to give us a few
minutes to talk some football coach.

Speaker 3 (01:41:49):
It's good to have you.

Speaker 2 (01:41:50):
How are you?

Speaker 7 (01:41:52):
What's up moreat?

Speaker 9 (01:41:53):
Great to be on man, And I bet you Alato
is like Cincinnati Bearcat fans to see it come and
with this Yukon program, especially at the end of our
AAC tenure or you know, in my first couple of
years at Yukon, we did not look like an eventual
back to.

Speaker 2 (01:42:10):
Back cham uh I remember those days well, and uh no,
you're you're right, And so as a UC guy, you know,
I'm sort of happy to slip you off to the
folks at Xavier where they have to deal with you
twice a year.

Speaker 9 (01:42:23):
So yeah, I think I got the part of how
I think I might have got the rule ruler of
the jungle was when we when we want that today?
Dude last year dropping a dropping a budet at the
end of the press conference. I think that uh you
know that that was a that was a that was
a big rule for left fandom.

Speaker 2 (01:42:41):
Yeah, smart moves. So obviously twenty twenty four has been
very kind to you. Is being name ruler of the jungle?
Like the icing on the cake? Is that the best
thing that happen to you this year?

Speaker 7 (01:42:51):
I'm telling you, O for for how deep.

Speaker 9 (01:42:56):
You know my fandom goes with the Bangles and that
this goes you know, for me personally, you know, like
in the know all the way back to the eighties
and then you know, forcing my family to become Bangles
fans like two sons.

Speaker 14 (01:43:12):
You know.

Speaker 9 (01:43:12):
I'm telling you, it's like it's right there with what
the White House does. It It's it blows away any
first pitches, yea.

Speaker 7 (01:43:21):
But I'm telling you it's it's like right.

Speaker 9 (01:43:23):
There for me, as sick as I am about you know,
my beloved Bangles, It's like it's right there.

Speaker 2 (01:43:28):
So I remember when you were coaching at Rhode Island.
I was, I was filling in for the Great Dan Horde.
Cincinnati's playing Rhode Island and you beat us and that's okay.
And somebody said to me, you know, Dan Hurley's a
Bengals fan, and I kind of was like, you know, okay, fine,
you know whatever. You know, maybe he knows Andy Dalton
or someone, and it's like, no, he's hardcore. He's a
big time Bengals fan. And so I've you know, you've

(01:43:51):
talked about the story of how you got into this
team as a kid. The Freezer Bowl. Here's what I'm
interested in because I have some experience doing this. So
I live for a chunk of my childhood in New Jersey,
Central Jersey in the eighties, and this is pre NFL
Sunday ticket and the Giants had some whollacious teams, and
the Jets were good, and down there in Central Jersey,
Randal Cunningham and the Eagles they got good and.

Speaker 3 (01:44:13):
So it was hard.

Speaker 2 (01:44:14):
So describe for me what it was like growing up
as a Bengals fan in the eighties when you had
all these other good NFL teams around you.

Speaker 9 (01:44:23):
Yeah. So, you know, the eighties probably my word as
bad as as the nineties, right, So, yeah, because you did,
you had Kenny Anderson and uh, you know that Super
Bowl appearance, which you know, that's where it started for me.
And then obviously you had Boomer, uh, you know Boomer
in the late eighties, and you know, the lefty it was.

Speaker 7 (01:44:45):
More it got bad more when I was like in college.

Speaker 9 (01:44:48):
In the in the in the nineties, you know, post Boomer,
when it started to really get difficult. And and it
was also you know, we were obviously not playing a
lot of national TV back then, so my only way
of getting information was I would get the newsletter that
I would get the Bengals Report, you know.

Speaker 7 (01:45:08):
That that newspaper. Yeah, once a month or or or
eight times a year.

Speaker 9 (01:45:13):
And I remember at Seaton Hall sitting in the back
of an intro to sociology class, reading like the Bengals
Report and doing my own depth chart for the season
on the not so great teams.

Speaker 3 (01:45:27):
I can painfully, I can painfully relate to that. You know,
you've been a fan for such a long time.

Speaker 13 (01:45:32):
You have.

Speaker 2 (01:45:33):
I mean, you have an all encompassing job, and the
season's overlap, so it's it's got to be easier in
September and maybe even October. But when you get into
the heart of your season, how closely are you able
to follow them?

Speaker 12 (01:45:46):
Yeah?

Speaker 7 (01:45:47):
I think up until.

Speaker 9 (01:45:49):
Really, up until November, you've got a pretty good window
for me. It's like like everyone leave the you know,
unless there's like a five start kids, you know, committing
between one and four on a Sunday, Like, leave me.

Speaker 7 (01:46:04):
The hell alone. Like this is my I don't play golf,
I don't have.

Speaker 9 (01:46:10):
A whole lot of hobbies or interests outside of like
ducom basketball and my family. So all I ask for
the people around me is that is that Sunday window
uh to be left alone.

Speaker 5 (01:46:24):
Uh.

Speaker 9 (01:46:25):
And then it's really like I think it becomes something
too with you know, when you have kids and when
you when you have sons especially, It's like for me,
it's a common interest that that you know, that we
have together that kind of keeps us connected and gives
us something to talk about spend time around. You know,
it's just a neat thing to have, you know, with

(01:46:45):
with your family.

Speaker 2 (01:46:46):
With your boys, so you talk about, you know, turning
them into Bengals fans.

Speaker 3 (01:46:51):
Was that a tough cell?

Speaker 9 (01:46:54):
My wife Andrew used to my oldest son Danny, h
you know there all coming with me this week? Obviously
he Uh my wife used to pay him off.

Speaker 7 (01:47:06):
To My wife would give.

Speaker 9 (01:47:08):
Him like five dollars uh a game to sit and
watch the game with me because I yeah, he was
not really interested in it. And then because I'm such
a monster during the game, you know, just throwing stuff,
and you know, clock management is like a big thing
with me.

Speaker 7 (01:47:24):
Like I don't know a whole lot about.

Speaker 9 (01:47:26):
The schemes, although I'm learning, but I think anyone could
kind of sit there and you know, question timeouts, clock management,
things of that nature. Officials obviously, I always have a
thing for referee, so.

Speaker 7 (01:47:40):
They're they're always a target.

Speaker 9 (01:47:42):
So but my wife, the fandom started with my boys
by her just basically paying them off to spend time
with me, and then.

Speaker 7 (01:47:51):
Now they're as hardcore or even more. Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:47:55):
You know, so you you talked about watching the games,
and I was going to ask that because I mean,
you know, I watch Yukon games I attend when you're
in town and you're animated, which is awesome. Is it
is it kicked up a notch when the Bengals are
playing or do you bring it back?

Speaker 13 (01:48:12):
Like?

Speaker 2 (01:48:12):
What is what is it like for those three hours
if you and I are in a living room together,
what am I experiencing?

Speaker 7 (01:48:17):
It's like.

Speaker 9 (01:48:19):
It's a lot, Like it's a lot like one of
my games that you come, Oh, yeah, I mean I'm up.
I'm walking around. H I'm superstitious. So you know, like
if I'm watching the game on one TV in a
certain spot and the game's going bad, I'll move to
a different TV and a different seat. I'll change my

(01:48:41):
sweatshirt or my jersey.

Speaker 7 (01:48:45):
You know, I'll get mad. I'll get like real angry that.

Speaker 9 (01:48:49):
You know again at the officials at the other team.
You know, it's like, yeah, I mean it's a lot.

Speaker 7 (01:48:56):
Like my wife does not stay in the house during
the game. Used to. I used to frighten her, you know,
you know, streaming the yelling, the brawling of pillows and
different close the windows.

Speaker 9 (01:49:10):
Like she was like, we have to close the windows
because people think you're crazy. I there was one game
where I have you know, she has to blow up
dangle like like person and the you know, you blought
the inflatable.

Speaker 7 (01:49:25):
Like Bengal guy with the with the ball.

Speaker 9 (01:49:28):
Yeah, so like I'll kicked it out of that or
like I think, particularly one bad game, I laid all
of my bangle stuff in the driveway and when she
got home from the food store, she obviously knew that
they lost the critical game because everything I owned Bengal
apparel was like laid out neatly in the driveway, like

(01:49:49):
I'm dumb.

Speaker 2 (01:49:51):
That's okay, that's insane. I mean like you weren't you
weren't about to pour a gas on her, right, Like
it was just sort of temporary insanity, that kind of thing.

Speaker 7 (01:50:01):
Yeah, yeah, it was just you know, frustration.

Speaker 9 (01:50:04):
I think I don't know if it was like it
might have been during Darren Marx Durn Marvin Lewis's time there,
uh in my yeah, going from as bad as we
were to when my mom got there, and like we
and Carson Palmer and Chad and uh and TJ and

(01:50:25):
and Chris Henry that whole group, like to not be
able to kind of break through and get that playoff
win that was particularly crushing, you know, the Steeler playoff game,
Chemo BoNT Ol and Hoffen, that whole thing.

Speaker 7 (01:50:39):
That was like, you know, like with your favorite team.

Speaker 9 (01:50:43):
Like That's why I never overreact to when my fans
want to kill me, because I know what it's like
to be a really passionate fan.

Speaker 2 (01:50:52):
I can relate to almost everything you're saying. I've never
laid my Bengals stuff out, but I have been tempted.
You mentioned wearing a jersey, So, who's the go to
Bengals player jersey you're wearing on game day?

Speaker 9 (01:51:03):
Well, it's it's uh, you know, now it's Joe. You
know it's Joe, It's Jamar, It's Joe, It's Jamar Chase.
Sometimes I'll get nostalgic and and you know, I've got
the Yah, I've got the Boomer, I've got the o
Cho Cinco. Uh, I've got a Hushman Dada, I've got

(01:51:23):
a I've got a Rudy Johnson. Uh. So yeah, I
mean I'll start with Joe. If it's not going well,
I'll start Or I got hoodies, you know, like if
I'm not into just wearing a particular players jersey, I'll
just go to wanna like a cool hoodie.

Speaker 7 (01:51:39):
You know that I'm feeling.

Speaker 6 (01:51:42):
Have have you been?

Speaker 2 (01:51:44):
Have you been following the day to day mechanics of
the Jamar Chase situation?

Speaker 7 (01:51:50):
Well?

Speaker 6 (01:51:50):
I have.

Speaker 9 (01:51:50):
I was hoping, like the op the opening part of
the show would be us, you know, talking about you know,
him getting his bag.

Speaker 1 (01:51:58):
Uh.

Speaker 7 (01:51:59):
But I guess it's so it's still ongoing.

Speaker 9 (01:52:01):
It's just you know, it's tough. I mean it. You know,
for for fans, it's probably hard to understand. And a
lot of these times though, you know, coaches and players,
when you get into these situations, it's like a lot
of it's it's.

Speaker 7 (01:52:15):
In the hands of the agent. Uh, and you're being directed.

Speaker 14 (01:52:19):
You know.

Speaker 7 (01:52:19):
None of us are real business people.

Speaker 13 (01:52:21):
Like he's a.

Speaker 9 (01:52:21):
Baller, he's a ballplayer.

Speaker 7 (01:52:23):
You know, I'm a coach.

Speaker 9 (01:52:25):
Uh, you know, we're not necessarily business people. So if
you're at the mercy of your agent and how he's
directing you, and and uh, you know, and and and
the organization. You know, we've all been in that spot.

Speaker 2 (01:52:39):
The great Dan Hurley is with us, ruler of the
Jungle on Sunday. You've been awesome with your time. Let
me let me just throw two more at you. What
is what is your biggest you know coming into the season,
what is your biggest question or concern about the twenty
twenty four Bengals.

Speaker 7 (01:52:52):
Yeah, obviously I'm.

Speaker 9 (01:52:53):
You know, I'm I'm star just uh, you know, just
with with obviously the injuries with you know, with Joe,
you know, and I'm feeling good about feel good about
the offensive line. Uh, it was unfortunate, you know. Then
his injury because I think that would have been just
awesome competition at right tackle that uh you know, really

(01:53:15):
would have I think, uh, you know, just lifted the
play of of of of both players. So you know
it starts with with with the offensive line and obviously
the defensive line with Miles Murphy being being hurt and
you know gonna need uh Joseph Asai, I think too,
you know, to to really kind of you know, show

(01:53:38):
consistently what he's flashed.

Speaker 7 (01:53:40):
I think the third receiver uh you.

Speaker 9 (01:53:43):
Know too obviously there you know, uh you know that
the kid from Princeton or you know, or a Burton
getting employe be able to get to that third receiver
spot because with Jamar and T. T. Haggins and you
know well protected, you know, I got a lot of
you know, the running back spot at you know Chase Brown,
Dak Boss uh you know that like that. So I'm

(01:54:06):
excited to see Chase Brown. He did some exciting stuff
as a as a pass catcher, but okay, he run
the ball to uh Dak Shale, change position the safety
to quarterbacks, Like what's that going to look like?

Speaker 7 (01:54:19):
As not a lot of players that you know have
done that. Well, that he's an athlete. He's got kickheads stake, So.

Speaker 2 (01:54:28):
It's uh yeah, there's a lot a lot of working parts.
It's gonna be a lot of fun on Sunday. Jamar
did practice today, so did Marius Mim So we do
have some things going in the right direction. I cannot
thank you enough for doing this. I hope you have
a blast on Sunday, and uh, you know, at some
point I get Shohn, we'll talk some basketball.

Speaker 3 (01:54:47):
But this is really cool.

Speaker 2 (01:54:48):
Thanks coach.

Speaker 9 (01:54:49):
Well later Sunday.

Speaker 2 (01:54:50):
I hope so. Dan Hurley, head coach of the two
time defending national champion Yukon Huskies and this week's ruler
of the Jungle. We are late.

Speaker 3 (01:54:58):
Gotta go Hoard and Lapp next Bengals game plan.

Speaker 2 (01:55:01):
We'll talk to you tomorrow from the Munio's Top Golf
tailgate in Westchester on ESPN fifteen thirty.

Speaker 3 (01:55:08):
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