September 5, 2025 • 7 mins
Jay Morrison of BengalsTalk.com joined to talk about, you guessed it, the Bengals!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Our guy, j Morrison from Bengals Talk dot Com joins us.
By the way, if you're worried about Miles Garrett wrecking
the Bengals on Sunday, Jay has written about Miles and
how the Bengals have fared against him, and you're gonna
feel better to the Bengals Talk dot Com followed Jay
on Twitter at by Jay Morrison, Jay, how are you.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Ill doing great? Ready for the season to finally get here?
Speaker 1 (00:23):
We finally have games to discuss, which is exciting to me.
They can't lose to the Browns in Week one again, right.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
I mean they can. I'd be stunned if they did.
I mean, we were staying that last year. I can't
lose to the Patriots at home in Week one. We
were saying it two years ago. They can't lose the
Browns in Cleveland. Weird things happen in openers, but this
team just seems it's I know, there's a lot of
jokes about they practice in the morning instead of the afternoon,
but there was so much more that went into the
(00:55):
way they handled this offseason and some meaning things and
just the fact that everybody's healthy, and I just I
can't see them coming out and laying an egg, and
I can't see Creve one playing well above when we
know that team is capable.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
That's the thing, Like, it's it's the track record of
the slow starts, how proactive they've been in addressing that.
It's Joe Burrow's health, it's having no players on the
injury report, Like I get it. Openers are weird. Playing
on the road is always tough. It is a rivalry game.
They're playing against Joe. Like, I understand all that, but
it's like if if you're Ozero and one at the
(01:32):
end of it, at the end of the opener this year,
I don't know then what you do in terms of
going back to the drawing board to get ready for
season openers.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
Yeah, I don't either. I mean you. I want to
say they're sick of talking about or answering questions about
the slow starts, but they brought it up on their
own players, coaches. It is a thing. I just it's
it's it's one of those things where they are desperate
to end that narrative and yeah, if it happens again,
(02:03):
then it's we're gonna be right back next summer doing
the exact same thing. Regardless, they could win the Super Bowl,
and we're still going to be talking about slow starts
next year because it's just an ongoing thing that they
haven't been able to answer.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
How long is the leash for Lucas Patrick at right guard?
Speaker 2 (02:22):
I think it's pretty long this week. I don't know
that you would want to make a change and throw
a rookie in there in Jalen Rivers. And I don't
know if Dalton Reisner is ready yet. Forget scheme and
playbook and all that. I mean, the guy hasn't played
any sort of football. And you know we saw with
(02:44):
Shamar how much he struggled once he finally ended his
hold out and came in and played. I mean, the
guy's had a week of practice. That would be a
big ask for him to step in now. If there's
an injury, of course you have to, But I think
that it's going to be going to ride with Lucas Patrick.
I just can't see it looking bad enough where they
would have to pull them. I could see it, you know,
(03:06):
you could. There could be enough issues where you say, okay,
week two, we're making a change, But to make an
end game, she hain't change with who you have as
a backup currently, it would have to be pretty egregious.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
You mentioned Shamar Stewart, So he ends his hold out,
he shows up the camp and I think, you know,
for a while he was kind of all anybody talked about.
He was disruptive, he was hard to block, and then
and then things kind of got quiet. As it relates
to Shamar Stewart during the back half of training camp,
what do you expect from him, Not so much just
on Sunday, but over the course of his rookie season.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
Yeah, I think he's a dude. I think he is
really going to bring some juice to that pass rush
what they've been needing. It could be the catalyst to
this whole defense. I mean, there's so many issues in
that secondary, and yeah, that secondary can be better. But
even if the even if the secondary has a slow
start getting used to out golden system, if you if
(04:01):
you add Schamar as a real threat opposite of Trey Hendrickson,
and then on third down, if if you move Schamar
inside and Miles Murphy Joseph o'satt can start getting some
pressure off the edge on the other side from Trey.
I just really think this pass rush is going to
be much more dynamic this year, and it's gonna it's
going to create a domino for it's gonna help the
(04:22):
secondary play better, it's going to lead to turnover sacks
all that, and I think he is the lynch thin there.
I know there is so much talk about the only
four and a half sacks in college, but just different,
different scheme, different guys getting the ball quick. I think
he's gonna make an impact. And I think we're going
(04:42):
to see it right off the bat Sunday in Cleveland
because I think they are going to have to have
Trey on a little bit of a pitch count as
he just got back to doing football active.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
Jay Morrison's with US Bengals Talk dot Com also on
the Growler podcast the situation at safety, and I know
you you've talked about it at length and talked about
it really all off season because a lot of us
were expecting at all these different offseason mile posts for
them to add a safety free agency, the draft, cut
down day, maybe trade somebody, trade for somebody pick up
(05:15):
one of these guys who's still on the outside looking in. Uh,
what do you make of their approach and what would
some what some would call a lack of approach at
safety all off season long.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
Yeah, it's still head scratching. I mean, it took them
a while, but they finally addressed guard and then went
out and got Dalton Reisner and they could have had
him back in March for about the same amount of money.
The safety I don't know what the problem is there.
Maybe there's not a Dalton Riisner type out there they
feel could be a fifth year, but it just free agency,
(05:51):
the draft, any any point along the way they could
have added to that room. And the fact that they
didn't need do you believe, Okay, they are all in
on Jordan Battle and Geno Stone Well, he asked Genostone
to take it take a pay cut. So are you
really all in on a guy that you're you're asking
your starter to take a pay cut. It's that's the
left line of defense for a defense that has struggled,
(06:13):
giving up big plays and long drives, and I just
it's that's the most puzzling aspect of this entire roster
construction this season. I don't know if there's a fix
out there. I know Justin Simmons is still out there.
I don't know how much that guy has left. But
there were other options that would have been better than
what's on this team right now that they could have done.
They could have gone after in free agency, in the draft,
(06:36):
and they didn't for whatever reason, and that could be
the thing they look back on this year and that
could be the biggest regret once they see how this
thing ends, no question.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
Jay can't thank you enough as always, Man, We appreciate it.
We'll talk to you next week.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
Okay, thanks Moe.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
That's our guy. Jay Morrison on Twitter at byj Morrison,
read them Bengals Talk dot Com and part of the
Growl podcast as well.
Our guy, j Morrison from Bengals Talk dot Com joins us.
By the way, if you're worried about Miles Garrett wrecking
the Bengals on Sunday, Jay has written about Miles and
how the Bengals have fared against him, and you're gonna
feel better to the Bengals Talk dot Com followed Jay
on Twitter at by Jay Morrison, Jay, how are you.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Ill doing great? Ready for the season to finally get here?
Speaker 1 (00:23):
We finally have games to discuss, which is exciting to me.
They can't lose to the Browns in Week one again, right.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
I mean they can. I'd be stunned if they did.
I mean, we were staying that last year. I can't
lose to the Patriots at home in Week one. We
were saying it two years ago. They can't lose the
Browns in Cleveland. Weird things happen in openers, but this
team just seems it's I know, there's a lot of
jokes about they practice in the morning instead of the afternoon,
but there was so much more that went into the
(00:55):
way they handled this offseason and some meaning things and
just the fact that everybody's healthy, and I just I
can't see them coming out and laying an egg, and
I can't see Creve one playing well above when we
know that team is capable.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
That's the thing, Like, it's it's the track record of
the slow starts, how proactive they've been in addressing that.
It's Joe Burrow's health, it's having no players on the
injury report, Like I get it. Openers are weird. Playing
on the road is always tough. It is a rivalry game.
They're playing against Joe. Like, I understand all that, but
it's like if if you're Ozero and one at the
(01:32):
end of it, at the end of the opener this year,
I don't know then what you do in terms of
going back to the drawing board to get ready for
season openers.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
Yeah, I don't either. I mean you. I want to
say they're sick of talking about or answering questions about
the slow starts, but they brought it up on their
own players, coaches. It is a thing. I just it's
it's it's one of those things where they are desperate
to end that narrative and yeah, if it happens again,
(02:03):
then it's we're gonna be right back next summer doing
the exact same thing. Regardless, they could win the Super Bowl,
and we're still going to be talking about slow starts
next year because it's just an ongoing thing that they
haven't been able to answer.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
How long is the leash for Lucas Patrick at right guard?
Speaker 2 (02:22):
I think it's pretty long this week. I don't know
that you would want to make a change and throw
a rookie in there in Jalen Rivers. And I don't
know if Dalton Reisner is ready yet. Forget scheme and
playbook and all that. I mean, the guy hasn't played
any sort of football. And you know we saw with
(02:44):
Shamar how much he struggled once he finally ended his
hold out and came in and played. I mean, the
guy's had a week of practice. That would be a
big ask for him to step in now. If there's
an injury, of course you have to, But I think
that it's going to be going to ride with Lucas Patrick.
I just can't see it looking bad enough where they
would have to pull them. I could see it, you know,
(03:06):
you could. There could be enough issues where you say, okay,
week two, we're making a change, But to make an
end game, she hain't change with who you have as
a backup currently, it would have to be pretty egregious.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
You mentioned Shamar Stewart, So he ends his hold out,
he shows up the camp and I think, you know,
for a while he was kind of all anybody talked about.
He was disruptive, he was hard to block, and then
and then things kind of got quiet. As it relates
to Shamar Stewart during the back half of training camp,
what do you expect from him, Not so much just
on Sunday, but over the course of his rookie season.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
Yeah, I think he's a dude. I think he is
really going to bring some juice to that pass rush
what they've been needing. It could be the catalyst to
this whole defense. I mean, there's so many issues in
that secondary, and yeah, that secondary can be better. But
even if the even if the secondary has a slow
start getting used to out golden system, if you if
(04:01):
you add Schamar as a real threat opposite of Trey Hendrickson,
and then on third down, if if you move Schamar
inside and Miles Murphy Joseph o'satt can start getting some
pressure off the edge on the other side from Trey.
I just really think this pass rush is going to
be much more dynamic this year, and it's gonna it's
going to create a domino for it's gonna help the
(04:22):
secondary play better, it's going to lead to turnover sacks
all that, and I think he is the lynch thin there.
I know there is so much talk about the only
four and a half sacks in college, but just different,
different scheme, different guys getting the ball quick. I think
he's gonna make an impact. And I think we're going
(04:42):
to see it right off the bat Sunday in Cleveland
because I think they are going to have to have
Trey on a little bit of a pitch count as
he just got back to doing football active.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
Jay Morrison's with US Bengals Talk dot Com also on
the Growler podcast the situation at safety, and I know
you you've talked about it at length and talked about
it really all off season because a lot of us
were expecting at all these different offseason mile posts for
them to add a safety free agency, the draft, cut
down day, maybe trade somebody, trade for somebody pick up
(05:15):
one of these guys who's still on the outside looking in. Uh,
what do you make of their approach and what would
some what some would call a lack of approach at
safety all off season long.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
Yeah, it's still head scratching. I mean, it took them
a while, but they finally addressed guard and then went
out and got Dalton Reisner and they could have had
him back in March for about the same amount of money.
The safety I don't know what the problem is there.
Maybe there's not a Dalton Riisner type out there they
feel could be a fifth year, but it just free agency,
(05:51):
the draft, any any point along the way they could
have added to that room. And the fact that they
didn't need do you believe, Okay, they are all in
on Jordan Battle and Geno Stone Well, he asked Genostone
to take it take a pay cut. So are you
really all in on a guy that you're you're asking
your starter to take a pay cut. It's that's the
left line of defense for a defense that has struggled,
(06:13):
giving up big plays and long drives, and I just
it's that's the most puzzling aspect of this entire roster
construction this season. I don't know if there's a fix
out there. I know Justin Simmons is still out there.
I don't know how much that guy has left. But
there were other options that would have been better than
what's on this team right now that they could have done.
They could have gone after in free agency, in the draft,
(06:36):
and they didn't for whatever reason, and that could be
the thing they look back on this year and that
could be the biggest regret once they see how this
thing ends, no question.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
Jay can't thank you enough as always, Man, We appreciate it.
We'll talk to you next week.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
Okay, thanks Moe.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
That's our guy. Jay Morrison on Twitter at byj Morrison,
read them Bengals Talk dot Com and part of the
Growl podcast as well.
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