9/9/25 - The Mo Egger Radio Show - Mo Egger

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
And the Bengals on a pro for a win. To
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Speaker 2 (00:26):
All right, there we go, it's five after three. This
is ESPN fifteen thirty on ma Legger. Thank you so
much for joining us. We are broadcasting as we do
every Tuesday at Oakley Greens, which is it's an Oakley
station close to the Movie Theater. It is gorgeous. Now
we've got our own cabanner. You cannot beat it. This

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is an awesome place for after work happy hour. It's
a great place obviously for college and pro football weekends,
whether it be a Saturday of college ball a Sunday.
If you're looking for a place to post up for
Bengals v. Jags, you obviously can do that here. They've
got corn hole, they've got mini golf, they've got good food.
They've got a great outdoor bar, good inside bar. You

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can rent a cabana they've got a ping pong table,
they've got inflatable mascots. You really can't beat it here
at Oakley Greens. We are thrilled to be here yet again,
and awesome to be doing the show outside yet undercover.
Paul Danner Juniors here. What's up from the Athletic and
the Growler podcast I've got I've got a little bit
of time.

Speaker 3 (01:28):
I got a story in podcast done today already.

Speaker 2 (01:32):
Wow, So I've got a little bit of time.

Speaker 3 (01:33):
When I get done here, someone wants to come down
and take me on in cornwall if they think they
can beat.

Speaker 2 (01:38):
Me, suckers, bet right there, the so you think they
can beat me, I will buy them a beer, suckers
for you.

Speaker 3 (01:44):
I'm not even asking for anything if I win, I
just want to get some said work.

Speaker 2 (01:48):
The satisfaction of beating somebody who thinks they can beat
you reps. I've seen yeah, I've seen you play cornhole. Yeah, okay,
unless your dad shows up, nobody's beating you. I don't know.
I'm here.

Speaker 3 (02:01):
I'm here to put it out there to take anybody
that wants to come down and play.

Speaker 2 (02:06):
I'm happy, I will. I will buy you be here
if you beat me. Wow. Yeah, will you extend that
to ping pong ping pong table? Right there? I don't
feel as confident, okay, Uh so no, will you extend that?
I mean I can play. I don't many mini golf.

Speaker 3 (02:21):
Mmm I would, I would probably, I'm okay, but I
don't know. I'm not played the course out there. I've understaid,
like to see the course. I need to see the course.
If the angles you know, yeh, work the check the
break on those hard harder puts.

Speaker 2 (02:37):
All right. Well, if you want to throw some bags
with Paul, yeah, be be care of challenge. Bring cash.
I'll just tell you that not a cash game. Oh yeah,
I'm not asking for it. I just want reps. Well okay, fine, great,
awesome do you want you do want? I've played cornhole
against you before. That's a losing proposition. We could do

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it during a break and get a game. We'll take
that long, that's right. Uh, what's a lot to talk
about there is? Yeah? A game, Yes, I'm happy about that. Yeah,
a game that the Bengals didn't lose, which is all right.
See everyone, great show. I really you could end it there.
I mean it's a good place.

Speaker 3 (03:19):
To end it is right there is Want to know,
if I would have said to you when we were
sitting here at Oakley Green's last week, they're gonna win,
you'd say the rest of it doesn't really matter. Right now,
you know it does, and we can spend all week
and we will talking about it and writing about it,

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but inevitably a place that they've had a hard time
winning and playing well, a time slot in the season
that they've had a hard time winning and playing well.
We've sort of talked about this all years. It was
just it's a weird, ugly, tough spot in a division

(04:01):
on the road. They've had a tough time getting wins.
They've had a tough time beating anybody much, you know,
no matter who it is. So it's not like there's
a long history of the Bengals playing these gorgeous games
in Cleveland where they just you know, they did every
It always looked even their best teams play ugly.

Speaker 2 (04:26):
Games against the Browns. In fact, for a long time,
Burrows best teams lost handily to the Browns. And so
there's something about the way that they play stylistically that
that's what it looks like. I said this to you
last week, this game's gonna be mucky, ugly. It's that
because not because I think it's an opening day thing,

(04:48):
and maybe it partially was.

Speaker 3 (04:51):
But because that's just what the games they play against
Cleveland look like. That's what it is, and that's what
it ended up looking like. They came out and the
brown gifted them a win, as the Browns are one
to do in openers and in general, and so they
were able to take advantage of the mistakes that Cleveland made.
The Bengals didn't make as many mistakes and quite often

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in Week one. That's the difference.

Speaker 2 (05:15):
There's a difference between not playing great and playing mistake
filled football. They didn't play great, specifically on offense, and
we'll talk about that, but you can win a lot
of games in the NFL. You can win a lot
of games at any level of football by simply not
making mistakes. And say what you want about why they
couldn't throw the ball downfield and how stagnant the offense was,
specifically in the second half. That was my big takeaway, right, like,

(05:39):
if that's as bad as they play and it includes
a zero in the turnover column, let's go.

Speaker 3 (05:44):
I think that was the plan we talked a lot
about in the run up to this game, and Zach
Taylor did about things to change, looking at what went
wrong in these early games year in and year out,
why they why there were so many losses, why they
looked so sloppy, why all these regular basic issues cropped up. Yeah,

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and you know, we talked about changing the time of
training camp practice and they're playing in the preseason.

Speaker 2 (06:17):
That was part of it.

Speaker 3 (06:18):
I think the biggest thing when he went back and
looked at his notes was stop making mistakes an opening week,
stop making mistakes in that game. Those games are weird,
they're odd, and that's our case across the league. I
feel like we do this at the end of every year.
We go back and you find some team that's in
the playoffs and you look about some completely ridiculous Week

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one score, like, how did that happen? How did that
team that stinks beat that team or whatever. I think
it's because it's different, and think he went back and
said this game, what we've done in the past is
turn the ball over too much, tried to be too cute,
throw the ball.

Speaker 2 (06:55):
Around, making mistakes.

Speaker 3 (06:57):
It's just just it's gonna be about who makes the
fewest and wins the turnover battle, let's stop the run.

Speaker 2 (07:03):
Force Joe Flacco to throw it.

Speaker 3 (07:05):
Let's try to let's be conservative, not turn the ball
over ourselves, and that should be enough.

Speaker 2 (07:11):
I think that was maybe the shift because they did.
They played a pretty conservative brand of football for themselves.
Joe Burrow threw twenty three passes, Chase Brown had twenty
one runs, I mean, and they did that from the jump. Yes,
from the outset, that's what they were gonna do, and
good for they come out with the win. But I
think they come out with the win because of that,

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because they said, let's just not make the mistakes. And
if the end of the day, we won the turnover
battle and made the fewest mistakes, that's probably.

Speaker 3 (07:40):
Gonna be enough to Cleveland beat the Cleveland Browns. And
it was barely, but it was.

Speaker 2 (07:45):
I said multiple times last week, this game is gonna
come down to when the Bengals put the game in
the foot of the other kicker. Yeah, never kicked in
a regular season game before. Maybe he'll miss two kicks,
won a pat and won a field goal, and that'll
be the turning point. That was the game plan the game.
Just make them have to kick thirty three to four

(08:07):
yard kicks, right, yes, yeah, that's that's the difference. I
want to start with the defense, which which you wrote about.
So I looked for two things. One was when I
think of the opener last year, defensively, I think of
all those mistackles. I think of Jay Morrison counting all
those mistackles on the Growler podcast. Didn't see those on Sunday. So, like,

(08:29):
I look at this as defensive improvement had to start somewhere.
Why not Week one? Where's it gonna start. It's gonna
start by just getting the guy with the ball on
the ground. I saw that on something. Yeah, And I
wanted to get a sense of the Bengals physicality rising
to what the other team brought. I didn't want to
see them get pushed around and I didn't so to me,

(08:49):
those things we could talk about, the turnovers and the
plays they made. Yes, Cleveland had a couple of drops,
and you could you could put it through the filter
of well, yeah, but it's it's Joe Flacco and a
Cleveland team that wasn't very good at running the ball,
and the guy of the age draft is not available. Fine.
What I was looking for and what I thought would
win in this game, and the place to start for
me was tackle, don't get pushed around. Yeah, both boxes checked,

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and I think those are two big boxes for the
entire season that are gonna determine where this team can go. Mean,
how how big of an issue has the defensive linemen
and we talked about like the run defense, they're just
getting absolutely moved for years And in their first opportunity
asterisk about the Cleveland offense known here their first opportunity,

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that was the best statistical game against the run that
they've had since the start of the twenty twenty three season.
Yards per carry, success percentage, you name it. In my story,
I ripped them all off today you can go back
and see it. And to do and along of five,
I mean, no other teams have been getting ten yards

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in their sleep. Again, this run defense for the last
couple of years. What did they do?

Speaker 3 (10:02):
They went out They got TJ. Slayton to try to
fix that. I you know, you can look at his
run splits over the time when he was on and
off the field in Green Bay and it's huge.

Speaker 2 (10:11):
I think I feel his.

Speaker 3 (10:13):
Difference out there. They got Shamar Stewart, who you felt
his strength and power at the point of attack. And
they went out and got Demetrius Knight in the draft,
who apparently turns into some sort of crazy person in
what he calls a flows state where he has to
apologize for his actions afterwards. We learned and he was
talking about that yesterday, but you saw it. He had

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six tackles in.

Speaker 2 (10:36):
The first drive.

Speaker 3 (10:37):
Like you get these players that change the way you
feel when you play defense, where it's not just every
play you're just watching the line of scrimmage go the
other way.

Speaker 2 (10:46):
And to have a game where.

Speaker 3 (10:48):
You you don't not only don't allow explosive run, but
nothing longer than five. I don't care who it is.
It's a National Football League. That's a team that was
trying to let's been able to line you up and
knock you down for a few years. To be able
to stand up to that, I think shows progress. It's
gonna be harder this week against Jacksonville, right, obviously, but
I think that was probably to me, the biggest, the

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most encouraging takeaway from the open was what happened specifically
on the defense and what I.

Speaker 2 (11:19):
Liked most about the performance In real time. We've spent
a lot of time on what they've done up front,
and I've worried a bunch about what they're not doing
in the back. But the Al Golden Defense is supposed
to emphasize linebacker. You mentioned Demetrius Knight. Sunday was the
first time in over a year that while he was playing.
I said something to the people that I was watching

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the game with about Logan Wilson. Yeah, yeah, he played.

Speaker 3 (11:44):
You know, you'd see him attacking, shooting the gaps, making
a couple of plays in the backfield.

Speaker 2 (11:49):
Showed up how much of not.

Speaker 3 (11:54):
Talking about Logan Wilson was the fact that you weren't
also talking about DJ Reader, as he wasn't here the
person that covers up so Logan Wilson can make plays.
I mean so often linebacker play is about the person
directly in front of them. You can't allow these guys
to reach up to the second level and get to you.
And DJ Reader was magnificent at that, and by no coincidence,

(12:21):
the linebacker play was a lot better when he was here.
Now this this game, yeah, I think you I think
you saw. I think he looked healthier, he looked uh yeah,
he looked fast, fast, and he had space to operate.
We'll see if that continues. But I think that's what
you get. I think that's the product of one you know,

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I want to talk about the BJ Hill Chris Jenkins
role there because those two guys, it was sort of
the reinvention of the Larryogan Joby BJ Hill rotation where
BJ Hill was so much better when they weren't putting
so many snaps on him. We've said it for since
Larryogan Joby left. Stopped playing BJ Hills so many snaps.
You can see it wearing on him. Well, guess what

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they have a game where they it's a sixty forty
with Chris Jenkins. BJ Hill looked.

Speaker 2 (13:07):
A lot younger and a lot more vibrant. I thought
in that game.

Speaker 3 (13:11):
Too, you get him and TJ Slick, these guys in
front of the linebackers, They're just more space for them
to operate. There's more room for them to attack, and
they looked like they knew what they were doing with
the read and react stuff. So I it feels over
the top, you know, because Cleveland does stink offensively. I
don't know how many points they are gonna put up
this year, So I'm not trying to go full everything

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is fixed on any of this.

Speaker 2 (13:35):
But again my point isn't how to start somewhere.

Speaker 3 (13:38):
This is who they're playing. Yes, and they went out
there and they clearly passed the first test, and they
went out and did what you talked about last week.
Can you go out at the end of the game
and make some plays to win a game? Can they
do that against anyone this year? And in the first
opportunity they did, they did. They forced Cleveland to make plays.

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And when the interception, I was saying in the walk
up to that game, it's gonna be about Joe Flacco
is gonna throw them a couple of interceptions?

Speaker 2 (14:08):
Will they make the play?

Speaker 4 (14:09):
Right?

Speaker 3 (14:09):
And they made the plays and that was the game.

Speaker 2 (14:12):
I also thought, and I was thinking about this over
breakfast on Sunday morning, I often think about run fits. Yeah,
you do the long of the game, and I thought
the run fits were, in particular, just some of the
best that I've ever seen. Yeah, some of the best
run fits you'll ever see. I mean, yes, the way
they I'm a un fit connoisseur. Uh huh, what's your
favorite run fit? The one they used on Sunday? Yeah,

(14:34):
that was, Yeah, that's I think it's just one. Well,
the series of run fits they used on Sunday, Yeah, yeah,
I when I think about some of the great ones
in the history of this franchise, Boy Sunday's run fits
were just yeah, I tell you what, you know, I
get excited just thinking about him. Now, Marvin Lewis had
some great run fits. You know.

Speaker 3 (14:56):
I really felt like that was I walked away thinking
about that too.

Speaker 2 (15:00):
Yeah. Dave Schulett didn't focus on red runfits enough. Probably, well,
you have to wear a headset during the game. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (15:08):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (15:08):
And and Dave, Dave, they couldn't find him one. It
is nineteen minutes after three o'clock. Paul Danner Junior, The
Athletic dot Com, The Growler Podcast, The Rewatch with Charlie
g Is just that's good stuff. It was great. Yeah,
super excited about that.

Speaker 3 (15:21):
We're gonna have coaches joining us a bunch of year,
taking some of the plays that we bring and they bring,
and and talking through some of those interesting plays in
the game. Jordan Kovac's SAFETYES coach on yesterday and just
fantastic stuff. Walked away from that being like, whoa this
is uh, here's this is gonna be fun.

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doing this like high end x's and O stuff, right,
and then today you have me on and I start
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Paul Danner Junior is here from the athletics. So what
happened with the offense?

Speaker 3 (17:15):
You know, I think there's a couple of things. I
think the Browns unleashed a little bit of Miles Garrett
on them. Obviously that doesn't take great analysis. Is pretty
that out. You know, you end up in a couple
of situations where the game, the second half feels very different.

(17:37):
If your star playmakers make a couple of one on
one throws. You know, Joe on that third and short
thirty two, I think it was gets a one on
one go ball Jamar and Newsome and you're taking that throw.
I'm never gonna fall for throwing a one on one

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down the field.

Speaker 2 (17:59):
To jam Are.

Speaker 3 (18:00):
Usually he completes it. It doesn't you end up hunting,
and you know, the Browns are doing these long drives
and you're waiting for them to get back on the
field again. And then you have one with Tea and
you can't complete that. It's you just get a couple
that don't go your way. And then then you had
obviously the series from hell, the three sacks in a row,

(18:21):
and right the silly call, I mean, right before that
third and long it was like, well, okay, I think
I was getting ready to tweet it, and then like,
well you just kind of draw, Yeah, just get out
of here and give some room. How did it end
up here? To then Joe's doing some sort of weird kung.

Speaker 2 (18:39):
Fu play the game. I'm not sure even to play
the game.

Speaker 3 (18:42):
Yeah, in the end zone, and it's like, what is
happening here?

Speaker 2 (18:46):
How is this the idea you're not converting? The conservative
safe game plan apparently was out the window on third
and a million from the shadows of your own goalpost,
and you know, to Zach Taylor's credit, he.

Speaker 3 (18:59):
Admits that was silly afterwards. But that said, I just
in the first half they felt like, oh man, all
that preseason stuff, all the continuent that that worked that's
that's what you expected it to look like the first half,
one hundred percent.

Speaker 2 (19:15):
When you expected to look like the second half.

Speaker 3 (19:17):
I just think Cleveland started getting after them. They only
ran twelve plays in the You know when the last
four drives right, you just when you when you can't
get any of those third downs going. I know it
sounds repetitive and cliche, You're just gonna have a hard time.
It's just everything kind of stopped. Everything just kind of

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stopped feeling easy. And Cleveland has a way of doing that.

Speaker 2 (19:41):
Did Cleveland offer other teams a blueprint for how to
slow them down? Only if they're trading Miles Garrett Denzel Ward?

Speaker 3 (19:50):
You know, that's just it is how many teams can
really just sit in.

Speaker 2 (19:55):
Man and compete with Jamar and t r Just no,
but you can.

Speaker 3 (20:00):
Really nobody really does that, right because nobody really feels
confident that they can. And so it's the direct counter.
That's why they give them so much trouble. They let
thee they play more man than anybody against the Bengals,
and it has worked. I mean I still remember eight
targets and no receptions for t Higgins in the rain.
A couple of years ago. And it's not like we

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have this long line of those guys putting up huge
games against Cleveland.

Speaker 2 (20:26):
It's just they're tough covers. And then when you have
tough covers on your you know you're the Bengals easy
button being Jamar and te win quickly, Joe gets it
out quickly, off they go.

Speaker 3 (20:37):
When you don't have that, and the other side now
has Miles Garrett and everything that they do upfront against you,
it you know, it's just the ultimate counter. I don't
think that's a blueprint. I don't think you're gonna suddenly
see teams trying that. And I'm sure Joe Burrow is saying,
please try that. Please go out there and try and
man cover Tea and Jamar with whoever you have.

Speaker 2 (20:58):
We uh, we might play little game. Well, we're gonna
play two.

Speaker 9 (21:02):
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Speaker 2 (21:02):
One we're gonna steal from you run passerboot oh thanks.

Speaker 1 (21:06):
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Speaker 2 (21:06):
The other is one that we might make a staple
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Bengals signing guys A FoST Uh Yeah, okay, I think
I think that's the uh, that's the news, right apparently, Yeah,

(22:32):
I mean, Jordan Schultz had that I don't know that
he's gonna change in the game for you. He doesn't
feel like he will. He was one of those guys.
So back a couple of years ago, when.

Speaker 3 (22:44):
I used to play the game of I can pick
who the Bengals are going to pick an ed drusher
in the draft just by looking at their sizes.

Speaker 2 (22:52):
He was on the list.

Speaker 3 (22:53):
There was like a list of like six guys that
fit the lou Anaumo edge. They you had to be
between six three and six five and tuner sixty two
and seventy pounds and have some sort of edge grade.
And if you found that guy, that's it. It was
like it was unbelievable. He's looking here here, and now
they've got they've got him.

Speaker 2 (23:12):
And uh So, earlier this afternoon, I found a YouTube
clip of two New Orleans sports talk radio hosts.

Speaker 3 (23:19):
Yeah, you know, no, go ahead, I have a feeling.

Speaker 2 (23:22):
I know where you're going. Bengals could win the Super
Bowl and I won't sound as enthusiastic as these two
gentlemen did in talking about Isaiah Foski's release. Yeah no,
they really, they really don't like him.

Speaker 3 (23:34):
No, No, that's why I was gonna say when you
said that it was, I was gonna be like, you
know what I know about Isaiah Foski is that Saints.

Speaker 2 (23:40):
Fans really hated him. Even I knew that. And I'm
not in the state funnel. Yeah, I like I wanted
to see, like, well, what was the reaction when the
Saints got rid of him? I mean the Marti Grass
parade down there, my rival, what they did when Isaiah Foski? Yeah,
didn't you hear they they had Fosky free last weekend? Wow?

(24:00):
I mean one o'clock on Sunday, Bengals and Jags Live
on ESPN fifteen thirty. The Reds play the Padres again tonight.
We'll find out how they can blow tonight's game. Zactly
Tell and Michael King on the Hill. Reds four games
out of the last wild card. The Giants are three
back day play Eric nobody cares right now? Who can't
Reds and Padres the night at nine to forty. If

(24:21):
you're still interested, I am still interested. I am still interested.
I just the inability to score an extra innings, Yeah,
I just unbelievable.

Speaker 3 (24:31):
I gotta tell you, it felt like the timing on
the Friday night lost to the Mets was just so
poor for everyone to be like, all.

Speaker 2 (24:41):
Right, see you next year, because right is the season
is about.

Speaker 3 (24:44):
To start from Bengals and you have it's you know,
it's like okay, get this, get a sweep, and might
be like, okay, we're sticking around. And for then for
it to be where you can't get a run in
with the bases loading and nobody out in the heart
of your order up and that against that team in
that moment.

Speaker 2 (25:02):
It was gonna change in his shoes on the map.
I just that you're right, because that night felt like
like everybody I knew was watching the Reds that night. Yeah,
in this effort to go okay, you know, Sunday the
Bengals are playing Saturday's football. Last night was football? Okay, fine,
Am I gonna stick around with the Reds for this

(25:22):
few Am I gonna spend the rest of the weekend
paying attention to this? And am I gonna give them
any more of my attention than they lost? And then,
like in typical Reds fashion, what do they do? They
win the next two? Yeah, and then what do they
do last night? Free zip, Here comes the bullpen, Here
comes the inability to score an extra innings. Just there's
seventy two and seventy two. This is who they are.

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It's who they are. We're gonna finish with eighty one wins.

Speaker 3 (25:44):
I hate to say it, but like it's like you
we've sort of been saying this all season. It felt
like this is who they were gonna be. Yes, and
you hoped that there would be enough of the you know,
the next step taken by some some guys that have
more martes, right, yeah, a few more of those and
in less regression, and you feel like you would have
a team that wouldn't be who you thought.

Speaker 2 (26:07):
They were, but they kind of are have I think
it's pretty fair to say. Now, uh, here's what Twitter
got right? What's that Dalton Reisner? Because he came in
and he played capable. He came in and he came
he played capably, and so you know, this was, Hey,
this is the next version of like Kevin Zeitler or

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something that they acquired at the end of the off season.

Speaker 3 (26:31):
There's a difference between playing capably and playing at the
Super Bowl, Pro Bowl or pro level that Twitter suggested.

Speaker 2 (26:39):
Did they get it right? Twitter took a victory lap
on Sunday. I watched it. Let it, Let it the
the Dalton Reisner stands that are out there, that's fine,
had their moment on Sunday. Wetter got it right. Where
was Twitter when Lucas Patrick was playing good for the
few snaps that he was out there, Uh, they were excited.
There was like real tre Brown vibes. You know last year,

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remember they had him and then he got hurt and
it's like, cool, we can scrape him off the plate.
Here's the guy we want. That's what Twitter was doing
during the I don't spend a lot of time on
Twitter during games because that's that could be a really
dark place. But I like to go after the fact
and after the fact. Dalt Reisner, the guy who made
Marty's bust, might have to do the dult Reiser statue

(27:23):
outside Bengal Stadium. I know. I I give him credit.

Speaker 3 (27:28):
That's a hard that is a hard gig man to
show up one padded practice and you're in there and
you're having to take over and protect and you know,
for the most part the lines the line held up
outside of the one series. So yeah, I give him
a lot of credit. I still think that he is
he is another Lucas Patrick. Like they're just very similar players, capable,

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serviceable and can get you through things. And they're gonna
we'll see how how his level holds up over the
course of the year, I think. But that was certainly
a good start and unbelievable to come in and do
that with hardly any actual work this year.

Speaker 2 (28:08):
So Lucas Patrick won't play for a few weeks. So
now their depth, which has been an issue, like it's
it's now a bigger issue, right, Like the dude who
was the backup is now playing. So so when they
signed Dalton rise there because they needed another Lucas Patrick,
now they need another another another Lucas Patrick. They needed
another Dalton Reisner to go find. I don't know that

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there's another one out there there. You know you're gonna
count You just count on Jalen.

Speaker 3 (28:33):
Rivers at this point and wherever else it goes.

Speaker 2 (28:36):
After that, you know.

Speaker 3 (28:39):
Yeah, the depth, the depth on the offensive line is
not that issue's not going anywhere.

Speaker 2 (28:43):
Now. Here's what Twitter got wrong. And I I'm gonna
give Twitter a little bit of a break because early
in training camp, a lot of folks were in a
bad mood because the Hendrickson thing at that point had
not been really resolved, and the Shamar Stewart thing on
the first day of camp had not been resolved. And
so you know, there are a lot of folks in
kind of maybe a not good place. And then we
find out they brought in no A Fan and a

(29:07):
lot of people didn't like that because he doesn't play guard. Right, well,
you know, hey, Noah fanse not a guard, so I
don't care. Well, then you know who was the guy
on Sunday catching the touchdown pass? Who was the best
tight end on the field? It was no A Fan.
Twitter got that one wrong.

Speaker 3 (29:21):
Yeah, I don't know why Twitter was trot was very
anti Noah Fan. I don't know why they would have
been anti Noah Fan because I'm really I'm really intrigued
by the Bengals tight end room. I've been kind of
fascinated by it all. Can't because because it's everyone that
you know is the closest thing to the middle ground.

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But there's you know, get Sicky and Drew Sample somehow
play the same position and then and so you but
you can have a day where Noah Fan plays, He
comes out and place fifty percent of the snaps.

Speaker 2 (29:56):
It's a big number for when you also.

Speaker 3 (29:58):
Have Drew sample playing sixty nine per in the snaps
and Gasiki's numbers are down what Drew. What Zach Taylor
said yesterday was talking about how who we put out
there can invite certain personnel from the other team. So
if the Bengals are trying to get the other teams,
whether they're going to put base out there when they're
in twelve personnel a sample and and that can give

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them matchups they can utilize it, or how are they
gonna treat Gasiki when he's out there When they find
out how other teams are playing their very different tight
end group they can get, they feel like they can
get whoever they want on the field for the other
team's defense and then run the plays that scheme up
the matchups against that person. So I think that's the

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by virtue of having a very unique different type of
tight end rooman I throw Tanner Hudson into that conversation
to who they use, and so I think it would
be really interesting to watch the fluctuations between Gasiki and
Fant and even Hudson or and if Grandy comes up
at some point, I think it'll tell you a little
bit about how the Bengals viewed the game afterwards. When

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you see the way they decide to deploy that group.

Speaker 2 (31:10):
I felt like for a team that needs impact from rookies.
He already talked about Demetrius Knight. I thought it was
a successful first game for Shamar Stewart, Yeah, very much so.

Speaker 3 (31:21):
I mean I didn't know if you were going to
go down to the fair Child line too.

Speaker 2 (31:25):
I was gonna talk about him next. Yeah, but Stuart specifically,
I think was what you expected his floor to be.
If that makes sense. That he's so strong.

Speaker 3 (31:38):
Yeah, he's so physical that just going out there and
doing that makes a difference, and you feel his presence
out there, whether it's you know, we've probably even a
lot of people have seen the video of him tossing
Dewan Jones, or just the way when he eats up
that block off the edge like the other guy just
gets tossed, gets thrown back a little bit. Just he's

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never giving ground and he's disruptive. His speed shows up.
I just think that alone is sort of the floor.
Now it's a matter of growing the rest of it
out of his game. But you can you can see
the difference that he made.

Speaker 2 (32:13):
I just thought to myself, like, holy crap, wait till
this guy learns what he's doing.

Speaker 3 (32:17):
Yeah, and he's so you know, and it's such a difference.
And I'm really excited that Sam Hubbard's gonna be back
as rule of the Jungle.

Speaker 2 (32:25):
And everything he's got.

Speaker 3 (32:26):
But like, there's just such speed differential right when you're
having now schmar out there with what Sam was kind
of being asked to do last year, especially as he
got hurt and was banged up over the course last year.
So and it makes it It makes such difference, especially
when you're trying to chase down that stuff on the backside,
uh and everything else, and he obviously has the power
at the point of attack to hold up You're right though.

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I mean, it's like if you could just take Sam
Hubbard savvy and intellect, uh yeah, give it to Sam
Stewart right now, you let's go, you'd have an all pro.
But it's gonna take some time. But certainly you so
a lot of the lot of signs that it sort
of reminds me of his camp where it was surprising
how quickly he came in and was noticed and and

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made it made a big difference.

Speaker 2 (33:09):
And then with Dylan Fairchild, I'll make this about the
offensive line as a whole. They had the series from
Hell late in the game, and that was awful. One
of the reasons why to me it was awful. Up
until that point, I had very little issue with how
the offensive line played, and Dylan Fairchild's a part of that. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (33:25):
And if we break this game up and look at
the first half, I thought the pockets were great.

Speaker 2 (33:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (33:30):
First half it was like it felt like Burrow was comfortable.
He had time to sit back and find what he wanted.

Speaker 2 (33:36):
They were moving the ball on the ground, specifically on
the first drive, they were getting those short yardage. I
mean it felt like you saw them.

Speaker 3 (33:44):
I didn't find myself noticing Dylan Fairchild as the game
went on. There were certainly spots where it wasn't. But
I mean a rookie guard. I mean, I can go
back and think to some of the rookies we've watched
play that position in recent years in their first game
or two, and how ugly it is and how hard
that is to never have done that in the NFL

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before and go do it, especially when that group and
they're you know, Miles Garrett is teleporting from outside the
tight end to the a gap and in a in
a snap, and you got to try to be there
like they're trying to work stuff up to take advantage
of you. You're gonna get taken advantage of some uh so,
But I thought, yeah, I mean, it continues to be

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an arrow up situation with Dill. With Dylan, even though
there was some growing pains in his first game.

Speaker 2 (34:31):
Your take before Sunday was they'll start the season two
and two. Do you still believe that? Yeah, I mean
I do.

Speaker 3 (34:39):
It was it was with probably a sloppy win at
Cleveland was what I counted.

Speaker 2 (34:43):
You know, Jacksonville Jacksonville is.

Speaker 3 (34:47):
The swing game for me because I do think they'll
win one of Minnesota and Denver just by nature of
you know, the coin flip NFL, and I think they're
just as good, if not better than.

Speaker 2 (34:58):
Those two teams.

Speaker 3 (35:00):
The Jacksonville game and being able to contain the Jaguars offense,
which is gonna be a lot more potent than when
Cleveland had and not have some of the early growing
pains of this. I just feel like the defense is
gonna cost them a game or two early and maybe
that was encouraging that maybe they won't. After what we
saw on Sunday, you can maybe you can start to

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believe the other side a little bit more. I am
a little bit more. But I'm really curious to see
what it looks like against Liam Cohne and Trevor Lawrence
and Brian Thomas and Travis Hunter and everybody that they're
gonna have in Jacksonville, who just you know, had an
easy twenty six points against Carolina this past week, and

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if they can hang in there.

Speaker 2 (35:43):
But yeah, if they win this one, I would switch
to three and one. But this is kind of the
swing game, all right. We're gonna play a little game
of run passer boot when we come back. All Right,
I'm excited about that thing too. I am too. We're
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Growler podcast. Do you play a game of Run Passer Boot?
Here's the game of run passer Boot. I want to play, so,
as far as I'm concerned, Sunday is the Andre Schmidt game.
The kicker for the Browns weird Z. He has no

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vowels in his name, so I want you to run passerboot.
These three athletes sports figures who have last names with
no vowels in them. Bill Miltvie played basketball for Temple,
still holds a unique record in college basketball that I
don't think is ever going to be broken. He spelled
his name m l k v y wow and his

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record is for the Temple Owls in the nineteen fifties.
In the game against Wilkes Bar, he scored fifty four
consecutive points. Fifty four consecutive points like nobody else. I'm
not even sure got a shot off. Wow.

Speaker 3 (37:46):
Uh, sounds like he could use an assist along with
his vow Let's say, you know, you don't want to
you don't want to play with that.

Speaker 2 (37:51):
They called him the Owl without a vowel, The Owl
without a vowel. Yeah, I like that. Washington Nationals pitcher
Zach Brooks b r z y k C why or
Andre Schmidt.

Speaker 3 (38:08):
Well, I think Bengals fans are clearly gonna run with
Andre Schmidt. Okay at this point for delivering a victory.

Speaker 2 (38:17):
Sz myt. I just had to relook it up just
for the uninitiatd. It's not the typical smelling of.

Speaker 3 (38:23):
Schmidt having to write that without being like I hadn't.
I didn't even know who their kicker was. I'm not
gonna lie right, I'm gonna admit my own fault here.
I went into that game and the moment he trotted
out and they said, I thought they said, Andre Smith.

Speaker 2 (38:40):
I gotta tell you I looked up to see, please
tell me Andre Smith is out there kicking these the
extra point and I was like, who is that? And
so I remember looking and being like, oh, that's right
they did.

Speaker 3 (38:51):
They cut their kicker and brought this guy in, which
is like the.

Speaker 2 (38:56):
Most Browns thing.

Speaker 3 (38:57):
It's always something like just quick trigger on a kicker
that you're just gonna throw out the door because he
misses a couple of kicks and bring in someone with
a Z in his name and think that they're not
gonna blow the game for you. So yeah, I I
I clearly you're gonna run with him.

Speaker 2 (39:13):
They're running with him.

Speaker 3 (39:14):
I'm gonna I'm gonna pass. I'm gonna pass on Bill
the owl with a vowel because I like that.

Speaker 2 (39:21):
I like that nickname. I like the out without a vowel,
owl without a vow I like I like that phrase.
And then I'm gonna I'm gonna boot.

Speaker 3 (39:29):
Bricks bricks Zach Brigsy, Yeah, hard.

Speaker 2 (39:32):
Pass on him. His last name sort of looks like
an eye chart, Yeah, Bill Miltviie. What I found out
about him is his name used to have an eye
in it, and through high school and then somebody realized like, actually,
our name doesn't have an eye in it.

Speaker 3 (39:46):
Did you ask chat GPT for all the athletes without
vowels in their last name, So it came out.

Speaker 2 (39:52):
I knew that the Temple Owls had a guy who
scored fifty four consecutive points in a game. I knew that,
I did not know it was Bill Miltby. So there
was an element of delight when I googled athletes with
last names with no vows that Bill came up. And,
by the way, just passed away a few years ago,

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and I forgot about Zach Brisey pitches for the Washington Nationals.
And then she's not an athlete, but she was the
general manager of the Miami Marlins. Kim Ing and gee,
that is the most popular name in the United States
among people who don't have a vwl in their last name.
I did an extraordinary amount of research waiting to talk

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to UC offensive line coach Nick Cardwell today.

Speaker 3 (40:38):
What I was gonna say is, don't you ever try
to tell me you don't have enough time in your
day anymore.

Speaker 2 (40:46):
I don't want to hear typically do not. This morning,
I did waiting for an offensive line coach to come
out of a meeting for a pregame interview, and I thought,
I want to see what other athletes there are or
sports figures that don't have a vowel in their last thing? Yeah.
Did you then ask the offensive line coach if he
knows of any no he could add to the conversation,

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or did you immediately tell him and be like, hey,
do you know about the owl without a vow? I
could have I literally I wrote all this down well,
so he could have sawd my notes and asked like,
why do you have the phonetic pronunciation of zach Berksy? There,
there's your list. There's the list.

Speaker 3 (41:22):
I wonder if our our our guy Andre Schmidt with
the Z is gonna anybody need to know how to
spell his name for very long?

Speaker 2 (41:31):
Probably not. I'm actually surprised that we haven't seen.

Speaker 3 (41:34):
Yeah, I feel like, what was it moody Jake May
got cut by the forty nine ers today?

Speaker 2 (41:39):
That feels like that feels like a guy that might
land in Cleveland? Right? Anybody else? Who'd we have kicking
for us at the end of last year? Who's the
Bengals kicker or k York he came? That's right, they
can get here that's right and get him back.

Speaker 3 (41:53):
You know big kid York vibes on the miss thirty
four yard or by.

Speaker 2 (41:58):
The way, no not about it from Andre Schmid. I
did ask Dan Horde. I'm like, you know, obviously there's
pronunciation guides and I'm like, any any issue with that?
He's like, Nah, that guy kicked for Syracuse for four years,
dance well aware, well aware, so he probably knew there's
a good chance this is one might not make it.
That's why in his call he didn't sound that surprise
when he missed that kid. Well.

Speaker 3 (42:18):
I was talking to Zach Jackson, who covers the Browns
for us afterwards, and he said, after that guy missed
the extra point, I knew that there is the way
another kick is going through the uprights.

Speaker 2 (42:30):
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(44:13):
later on this hour. We do have some baseball stuff
to talk about. I'm always I'm always amused when, especially
in a Week one setting Week one in the NFL,
and I'm guilty of it. I think all of us
as football fans have been guilty of it. Week one
lends itself to overreaction because months and months and months
have built up, and conjecture and narratives being forward via

(44:36):
free agency and through the draft that I think there's
just this built in instinct or built in, I don't know,
just desire to like draw a sweeping conclusion or make
some sort of declarative statement about a team after they
have played one game. I remember last year, the first
two weeks of the season played out, and the New

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Orleans Saints looked like the best off defensive football team
I've watched since the Saint Louis Rams in nineteen ninety nine.
The Saints ended up being a disaster. The Bengals in
each of the last three years have often looked inept
in the first week of the season. Now, losing those
games came back to haunt them all three of those seasons,
but they ended up getting better. I think the most

(45:20):
fun part about sports that nobody ever talks about to
me is it's fun watching teams evolve and change and
sometimes devolve and improve. In the idea for any NFL
team is to improve from what they put on the
field in Week one, whether they're dominant in victory, not
dominant in victory, or whether or not they lose. And
so I'm always I'm always interested in listening to people's

(45:43):
overreactions to Week one, and then I'm always interested when
a team in Week one plays a game like the
Bengals did on Sunday, Like I had folks say to me, like, boy,
you can't feel very happy about that, Like what are
you talking about. I can't feel happy that the team
that I rooted for one a football game, a regular
season football game on the road against a divisional opponent,

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Like that's hard. That's hard to achieve and I know
it's the Browns who are not going to be very
good this year, but that is that is hard to do.
I also have used by the folks who it's like
they won, so don't pick apart of the performance whatsoever.
To me, I take the cue from the head coach.
I'm gonna be willing to bet that Zach Taylor was very,

(46:27):
very happy his team won that football game. I'm gonna
be willing to bet that he would express, in a
moment of truthfulness, that you know what, we may have
stolen one there, we may have gotten away with one there.
I'll tell you how I felt. I felt like I
did last week when I thought I was gonna get
pulled over because I'm speeding down I seventy four last week,
and it was one of those where it's like you

(46:48):
see the cop there a little bit too late, and
it's like, uh oh, I think I'm caught. And then
when I passed the cop, like he actually pulled out,
except he turns his lights on and he ended up
going to like I hope it was something that ended
up being okay, but ends up going to an emergency.
And for like that split second, I thought I was

(47:09):
about to be pulled over, and then there's like that
just huge sense of relief, like, well, probably got away
with one there. It's kind of how I felt on Sunday.
It's okay to feel that way, but I'm I'm gonna
be sure that Zach Taylor felt that way. I'm also
gonna guarantee you that he didn't go well. We won
the game, so let's not watch the tape. Let's not
practice this week. There is lots to work on for me.

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If you had to walk away with a thirty thousand
foot takeaway from that game, for me, it's this defensive
improvement had to start somewhere. Week one is a good
place to start. We will see, and time will tell
if better equipped offenses with better personnel and better quarterbacks

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by the way they may face one on Sunday and
the Jacksonville Jaguars, who have some very good offensive weaponry
Brian Thomas might be the least talked about terrific skill
player in this sport. We'll see, but's it's got to
start somewhere. It's not the most apples to apples comparison,

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but it's like we talked about with Jermaine Burton, this offseason,
like you know, he's he's starting to show up on
time to work. Okay, Well, that doesn't mean you don't
have doubts. That doesn't mean that you're going to totally
buy into Jermaine Burton getting in And by the way, Jermaine,
for what it's worth, wasn't active on Sunday. But the
road to what they want him to become had to

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start with something basic like showing up to work on time.
Defensive improvement for the Bengals had to start somewhere. Why
not on the road against a bad football team that
is not very dimensional, that isn't going to do a
lot of things downfield. They weren't perfect, but like starting
somewhere for me and I know I talked about this

(48:56):
earlier with Paul. I was looking for two things. Number One,
do they tackle? When I think of the Bengals defense
last year, more than anything else, I think of all
the misstackles. I think of all the times that either
a linebacker or a safety, and at times even a

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guy up front on the defensive line couldn't get the
ball carrier on the ground. It is the number one
thing that comes to mind when I think of last
year's defense. There were players last season who have put
together otherwise good Bengals careers like Jermaine Pratt, or guys
that we were excited about them signing, like Geno Stone

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that stood out last season because they couldn't make a tackle.
I didn't feel the need after the game on Sunday
to go rewatch the game and count misstackles. It's exactly
what I did after last year's opener. So that's a
good place to start. It sounds basic, it sounds like
football one oh one. But if you know any think

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about how last year unfolded on the defensive side of
the ball. That's that's that's not That's not an insignificant
thing by any stretch. And then there was just I
want to see do the Bengals defensively look like they're
being pushed around again? They weren't awesome, I guess, but
I watched the game on Sunday and I didn't go, God,

(50:21):
you know what, Cleveland is just pushing them around, beating,
beating them to the point of or beating them at
the point of attack, uh, out manning them, bringing more physicality. Again,
like sounds basic, it's not the most nuanced thing. But
I saw those two things. Now, yeah, yeah, add to it. Okay,
the Browns had a couple of passes that were dropped

(50:42):
that the Bengals turned into picks. Is that good luck? Yeah,
to a large degree. At the same time, you know,
dudes got to catch the ball once it's been tipped.
And yeah, man, you know I brought up last week,
or maybe it was the week before, the question about
whether or not the Bengals can lean on their defense
to win a game when it's hanging in the balance.
And while you know, if Austin Schmidt makes the kick,

(51:04):
nobody cares about the sack that forced the field goal try.
At the end of the day, Bengals got a sack.
Bj Hill was credited with it. Trey Hendrickson was there too,
But the Bengals defense made a play with the game
hanging in the balance. These things may end up being footnotes, outliers,
or things that we forget by four o'clock this Sunday

(51:27):
if the Jaguars have their way with them, but this
team's championship window shuts. This teams championship window doesn't even
open if there's not significant defensive improvement from last year
to this year. It's got to start somewhere. Frankly, it
didn't feel like it really started anywhere during the preseason.

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You can tell me that I'm too much of a
wide eyed optimist, which I've never been accused of being,
or that I'm too glass half full, where you can
yell at me that the Browns are so bad that
the Bengals defense should have held them to fewer than
sixteen points. I got the starting point that I was
looking for, and this is not what we're dwelling on.

(52:11):
If they lose the football game, I understand that, and
you're completely being reasonable if you walked away from the
game happy that they won, but puzzled as to why
the offense just couldn't get anything going, and I share
that frustration. I'm not sure how concerned about the offense
I'm gonna be. But the single biggest question about this

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team this year is can the defense rise to the
level of putting the Bengals back in legitimately back in
the championship conversation. The answer was never gonna be yes
after one game. I'm not sure the answer is gonna
be yes after four games. But if the answer is
going to be yes, it's got to start somewhere, better

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to start week one than week five. I view that performance,
and I reserve the right to change my mind. I
view that performance on Sunday as a starting point and
a pretty good one, and one that, yes, because of
some luck, came in the context of a victory quarter
after four espn fifteen thirty. We have a room for

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phone calls today five to one three seven four nine
fifteen thirty and eight sixty six seven zero two three
seven seven six. I will admit that I am probably
overly obsessed with things like the numbers the Reds have
put together when they batten extra innings. They had an
extra innings game last night. You could argue the game

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never should have gone to extra innings, because when you
have a three to nothing lead, you ought to win
the game in nine. But the game did go extras
and yet again, in the tenth inning, the Reds do
not score. Yet again the Reds lose an extra inning game.
They're now three and eleven in games that go beyond
the ninth inning this season, and they miss an opportunity
to gain a game on the Mets. They lose a
game in the standings to the San Francisco Giants. The

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man for this team has not been good for a while,
got really bad after Friday. It slightly improved after Saturday,
and Sunday it didn't get any better after blowing a
chance to gain a game. On New York last night,
Zach Lttel pitches for Cincinnati this evening. We'll talk about
their issues and extra innings, and we'll spend some time

(54:16):
on Ellie de la Cruz as well, because I mentioned
something last week on this show kind of in passing,
and I put together a poll question about Ellie dela Cruz,
and I'm kind of curious as to how most folks
want to frame the season that he has had so far,
acknowledging that there are still eighteen games to go, which, frankly,
when your four games out is not all that much.

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Speaker 2 (55:10):
Four turn has played Pitbull. We might have to have
a discuss with him tomorrow. We're at Oakley Greens in Oakley. Bengals,
by the way, made a whole bunch of roster moves,
so they have signed edge rusher Isaiah Fosky to the
practice squad. Third year player from Notre Dame, second rounder
of New Orleans in twenty twenty three. Obviously, the Al
Golden connection is in play there. He was waived by

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the Saints on August the twenty six. Paul and I
were joking about this before. Saints fans were awfully, awfully,
awfully happy when they caught him. Do what you want
with that second rounder. Lot of upside. We'll see. Maybe
Al Golden can get more out of him. But NFL
teams give a very long leash to players they take

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early in the draft. Isaiah Foski's first two seasons didn't
work out with the Saints. He does not get a third. Instead,
he is in Cincinnati. Mike Pennels, off the practice squad
of the active roster, played in the game on Sunday
against Cleveland Bengals signed him on September the one Lucas
Patrick goes on ir Miles Cole, defensive end, has been
signed to the practice squad. Second year player from Texas

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Tech taken by the Jags in the seventh round of
twenty twenty fourthest draft played in eight games as a
rookie last year. Waived by the Jags on August twenty
sixth and defensive end Isaiah Thomas has been releasing the
practice squad as well. He was signed to the squad
a third year player on August the twenty seventh. Richard,

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You're on ESPN fifteen thirty Richard, Good afternoon, How are you? Hey?

Speaker 5 (56:42):
Good afternoon, mo Hey.

Speaker 9 (56:44):
You know I've listened to your talk about the Bengals
win and let's face it, they.

Speaker 4 (56:49):
Stole a game. However, you and I are long, long.

Speaker 8 (56:53):
Time Bengals fans, and how many games have we given
away and should have won?

Speaker 4 (57:01):
Should have, would have, could have?

Speaker 5 (57:03):
And I feel like we got about thirty of these.

Speaker 2 (57:05):
Games come in our way.

Speaker 4 (57:08):
What do you.

Speaker 2 (57:08):
Think never apologize for being lucky? You know? I mean,
and look, I think to a degree they created their
own luck. But yeah, they they didn't play great. If
their kicker makes a field goal, or if he makes
an extra point in a field goal, the Browns win
the game. In any four decades I've been following this team,

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there are plenty of times where I felt like the
other team stole one. And so I'm not going to
apologize at all for my team stealing one.

Speaker 4 (57:37):
Me neither MO have a great day.

Speaker 2 (57:39):
Richard, You do the same. It's okay to say that too,
like they got one. Luck is a bigger factor in
life and in sports than many are willing to admit now.
In that game, the Bengals scored their first touchdown because
they executed well in the running game. They scored a
second touchdown because you know, the offense was maybe cooking

(58:00):
to the degree that we to the degree that we
all expect, but you know, they took advantage of some things.
They find no a fan in the end zone, by
the way, like Duke Tobin's late offseason acquisitions paid off.
Dalton Reisner came in and played well. Mike Pennell came
in and gave him some decent snaps and no offense.
I mean, I don't know that I want to see

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how that game plays out on Sunday without them, they
if you are gonna have the sort of season we
all want the Bengals to have, They're not going to
win every game forty two to fourteen. They might not
win any game forty two to fourteen. You have to
win games in a variety of ways. That's been what
I've maybe it's just me what I've wondered about the

(58:44):
defense all season long. When there are games that demand
the defense rise to the occasion, whether it be in
the fourth quarter of a high scoring game or on
one of those days where the offense just doesn't have it,
Can that you rise to the occasion? Can they win ugly?

(59:04):
Last year they lost pretty the Washington game, both Baltimore games,
the Chargers game. One might argue the Pittsburgh game here
were yeah, man, they were clicking on all cylinders offensively,
couldn't stop anybody. They lost a lot of really fun,
picturesque games. Sunday was the exact opposite. So you have

(59:26):
to win games in a variety of ways. And one
of those ways can be the other team being completely
complicit in their own demise. One of those ways can
be being lucky because the other team's field goal kicker misses.
I have no issue celebrating being lucky. Now, that can't
be what you hope for. I have felt like, in

(59:49):
maybe not so much recent years with the Bengals, but
I have felt like, in rooting for both the Bengals
and Reds, that part of their strategy has been, well,
maybe we'll get lucky, right like A that can't be. Hey,
you know what, maybe the other team's field goal kicker
is going to miss, you know, a P eighteen at
a field goal every single week and we'll get out
by the skin of our teeth. Offensively, they must get better,

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and like I do buy that, you know, Cleveland's Cleveland's
personnel and the way they play in the corners they
have makes them a more difficult matchup defensively than pretty
much every other team in the NFL. But it did
feel to me a little bit like they let the

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Browns dictate how the game was going to be played,
at least from a Bengals offensive perspective, and that can't
repeat itself the past. Protection issues as dominant a player
as Miles Garrett is when you're backed up against your
goal line and you need your offense to at least

(01:00:54):
sustain something, if not outright go and win the game.
You can't collapse the way the Bengals did upfront with
Joe Burrow getting sack three consecutive times. They must perform better.
You can't establish the run as early as the Bengals
did in that game. And then it's not that they
got away from it, it's it's once Chase Brown was

(01:01:15):
very productive on the first drive of the game, Cleveland
took it away. And when Cleveland took it away, it's
not like they gave you anything else. And the Bengals
offense was basically neutered for an offense with this quarterback
in this weaponry. It was striking that that happened. But again,
you give credit to the Cleveland Browns, and you do

(01:01:36):
wonder maybe the Browns will be in tank mode by
week eighteen. You do wonder when the Bengals played Cleveland
in that final game of the season, if it matters
at all for Cincinnati, how antsy will we be going
up against that same defense that to me at least,
felt like it dictated how the game was played. Twenty
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There is twenty six from five o'clock. This is ESPN
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All the sports, all the time, all here at Oakley Greens.
On Thursday, we are going to be broadcasting from the
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has become one of the signature events, signature events on
the Cincinnati sports calendar, the LPGA Tour in Town and
Awesome Field, and it's going to be showcased on the
Golf Channel. Grant Boone Golf Channel play by play host
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for Round one on Thursday, but kind enough to give
us a few minutes this afternoon. Grant, it is awesome
to have you.

Speaker 4 (01:03:56):
How are you, Mo, It's great talk to you. I'm
doing very well and you're right. I'm headed up to
Cincinnati in the morning. And this is a trick that
I've made many times. I grew up in Nashville, Tennessee,
listening to Marty and Joe as a diehard Red fan

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and went to Riverfront many many times as a kid.
So this drive from Nashville to Cincinnati is a familiar
one and it brings back gol all the fields.

Speaker 2 (01:04:30):
For me, that's for sure, very cool, that's awesome to hear.
What makes this particular event unique on the LPGA tour.

Speaker 4 (01:04:40):
Well, I think first of all, you look at the
history of women's golf in Cincinnati. You go back to
the early nineteen sixties when Kinwood a host of the
US Women's Open, and you know, that's where we were
the first couple of years of this championship, and then
all those years a dozen years or so when the

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then the LPGA Championship now they know it as the
KPMG Women's PGA was there at King's Island and Nancy
Lopez she didn't win it every year, it just seemed like.

Speaker 5 (01:05:12):
She did and.

Speaker 4 (01:05:15):
And there were so many great memories there and it
really had a i know, a great foot.

Speaker 2 (01:05:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:05:22):
It really made a strong connection with the community, you know,
I mean that the players loved coming there, the community
loved having the players there, and so to bring it
back as they did in twenty twenty two was was
really fun. I think the date this year is perfect.
Last year it was the week after the Solheim Cup,

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which is the is the Ryder Cup for women's golf,
and so that you didn't get the Nellies necessarily of
the world, but you know now you've now you've got
I think I counted twenty eight of the top thirty
four players in the world are going to be there,
include Lydia Coe, who kind of capped off her magical
twenty twenty four with a victory there. It's got everything

(01:06:08):
going for it. It is not too far away, is
it from King's Island? So we get all those vibes.

Speaker 2 (01:06:14):
Yeah, yeah, no question about that. In terms of storylines
for this weekend, give me one or two that you
guys will be tapping into during the broadcast, which begins
on Thursday.

Speaker 4 (01:06:24):
Well, Cannelly finally win. Here is the superstar who last
year went from great to sublime. She won seven times
five in a row in twenty twenty four. This year
her scoring average is actually lower than it was last year,
but she hasn't won on the LPGA tour. Can you

(01:06:45):
tell him out walking in my parents' neighborhood. Sorry, but
I'm not walking into Cincinnati, I promise. It just sounds
like it. Yeah, So Cannelly finally win. Here's another thing.
We've had this crazy run. So we've had twenty three
different tournaments on the LPGA Tour. One of them was

(01:07:06):
a team tournament. We've had twenty four different winners of
the twenty three events this year because neither of the
players who won that team event had also has another
victory this year. So can well back continue? And you
think about it, Nelly hasn't won this year. Jim Young
Coe who's the former number one in the world, she
hasn't won this year. Lily Avoo, Hannah Green, they haven't

(01:07:29):
won this year. So could we see that trend continue?
We're seeing great parody in women's golf. The field just
keep getting deeper and deeper. There's I don't think there's
ever been a harder time to win on the LPGA
Tour than right now. And all that does is just
make everyone better.

Speaker 2 (01:07:47):
I think, yeah, you were, you sort of just touched
on where I was going to go next. It feels
like the the LPGA Tour right now is in a really,
really good place.

Speaker 4 (01:07:59):
Could more. The PGA Tour is is exciting, but when
you look at how the the governing bodies have kind
of collided over the last few years with live golf,
you don't have all of the best players playing together.

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Except to the major championships in women's golf, you have
a lot of weeks like this one in Cincinnati in
which the very best in the words, it's rare on
the LPGA Tour that you don't at least have a
week to week five or six of the top ten
in the world there. It's it's a great time. The

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Americans have dominated the last five years on the LPGA Tour.
Remember in the two thousands and twenty tens, Korea really,
you know, really rose. Now you've got Japan rising up
and having a great run of different winners. But the Americans,
you know, have really been dominant in the last five years,

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and now Japan's challenging them kind of on a country scale,
and it just makes for great golf. And it's just
every week. Like in Boston the last tournament, you had
a player from Duke, she's from China, went to college
at Duke. She'd never won on the LPGA Tour, but
she takes down the world number one, Gino Titakun from Thailand,

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who's who's been number one the last six weeks, and
she stared her, you know, she stared her down with
the birdie on the seventy first hole, and it's like
she's a rookie, and yet it just shows you how
how really good these players are and how how ready
to win they are at a very very young age.

Speaker 2 (01:09:46):
How many miles are you walking right now?

Speaker 4 (01:09:49):
Well, geez, I'm on, Like, let me check my steps.
That's what's my foot band? Say says you need to
says you need to calm down and find a quiet
place to talk to Moe. I'm doing well, can't wait.
It's gonna be a little toasty. Last year was really hot.
It was in that it was in the nineties most
of the week. Little less than that. I suspect it
will be kind of humid, not quite football weather for

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the Bengals. But they've got the home opener, don't They.

Speaker 2 (01:10:13):
Got the home opener on Sunday, and so you know that,
plus uh, you guys in town, it makes for a
big sports weekend. It It should be a lot of
fun at a course that last summer I shot a
one hundred and three at so I'm assuming there will
be none of those on the card this weekend.

Speaker 4 (01:10:30):
Did you break the heat index? Is my question? That's
really the only the only real question that no what
it was.

Speaker 2 (01:10:37):
It was August so so I probably didn't.

Speaker 4 (01:10:40):
But we'll call it a tie.

Speaker 2 (01:10:43):
We'll call it a tie. That's right. Grampoon, the play
by play host of the Kroger Queen City Championships out
of by P ANDNG Live coverage of all four rounds
beginning on Thursday. We will be there on Thursday. Grant, so,
I hope to get a chance high drive safely to
Cincinnati and thank you for your time. Well do go
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has also put Lucaspatrick on ir suffered a calf injury
in the game on Sunday against the Browns. Mike Penell
defensive tackle off the practice squad of the active roster.
Miles Cole defensive ends signed to the practice squad. Second
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Thomas has been released from the practice squad. Bengals and
Jags Sunday one. The game is live on ESPN fifteen thirty. Meanwhile,
after last night's tough loss to the Padres, I say
the Pirates to the Padres, Reds are in San Diego
for Game two of their series against the Padres. Zach
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a game on New York, so Reds are still four
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I want to spend some time on that when we
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so we'll get to folks who have waited and waited

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longer than they should have. Starting with Jim. Jim, you're
on ESPN fifteen thirty. Jim, Good afternoon.

Speaker 10 (01:16:23):
How are you No, I'm good. First, I want to
start out with mythology to you. A couple of months ago.
You know, if you were on one of these rants
about how everybody this side of Bobby Heart should be
in the Ring of Honor and I and said the
Kickers should not ever be in the Ring of Honor.

(01:16:46):
I've changed my tune on that. Clearly, mister Vowles. Andre
has gotten us off to a good start this year,
So you know, I'm I'm I'm going to offer that,
you know, the Bengals show look to I wouldn't be
surprised if I come in on Sunday and his name's
up there and.

Speaker 2 (01:17:06):
He's got a better chance of being in the Bengals
Ring of Honor than in the Browns Ring of Honor.

Speaker 10 (01:17:11):
Yeah, pizza guy almost called the tops on me because
when or when Yeah Turner intercepted that ball, he was
at our door delivering pizza and I will pick about
as loud as I could possibly yell and got it
by my young kids answered the door to get the pizza,

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and he actually asked if my wife was okay.

Speaker 2 (01:17:40):
What would what would you have sounded like had something
bad happened in the game.

Speaker 10 (01:17:45):
Well, the see, that's the thing is I didn't my
hopes were well at that point because I really felt
like it felt just like the New England game last year.
I mean that's how we were playing. And uh, you
know Miles Garrett, he's he is every bit as good

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as Reggie White, Bruce Smith, Lawrence Taylor, any of those guys. Yes, well,
when he decided to take over that game, you know,
with everything the way it was was working out, my hopes,
my hopes were pretty low, so I was ready to
give in, throw in the towels. So that's probably why
I freaked out so much when we got that pick.

Speaker 2 (01:18:26):
Can't blame you. I did the same and I would
agree with everything you just said about Miles Garrett. He
is he is in that class of you know, you
mentioned guys who were in the Hall of Fame. Bruce
Smith is in the Hall of Fame.

Speaker 4 (01:18:38):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:18:39):
You know, to me, Howie Long is a good comparison
because Howie Long, when I was a kid watching him
with the then La Raiders, he would line up everywhere.
I mean he would line up at nose. They and
they you know, they had Bill Piquel and they had,
you know, really good defensive linemen, but they would they
would put Howie Long everywhere, and so you know, snap

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to snap, you never knew where he was going to
line up. And the Browns do that with Miles Garrett,
and you know that. To me, what he did late
in the game is the story. Maybe not so much here,
but what he did late in the game is the
story if the Browns end up winning it and it
nearly ruined what to that point had been a an acceptable,

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i'll say performance by the Bengals offensive line.

Speaker 10 (01:19:26):
Well, and I don't think the injury for it has
come out yet, but the hit that Burrow took, there's
no way he walked away from that completely unscathed. Now
I've actually heard people talk and it makes sense. He
wasn't the same after that hit. Nope, you know, I
mean that Browns defense just stinies us every year.

Speaker 2 (01:19:48):
Yeah. They they have guys who can get after the quarterback,
obviously starting with Miles Garrett, but they have good cover corners, man,
you know, and who do a great job against a
pair of guys who everybody else struggles with. They have
sticky corners. They can play a brand of Manda Man
defense that other teams cannot. And then you put on

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the front end of it Miles Garrett. They're hard to
score against, and they've been hard to score against for
the Bengals in a while for a while.

Speaker 10 (01:20:16):
Yeah, and you know they needed to stop the run,
and they just stop the run. Yeah, unt the last
time you've seen a Bengals defense just okay, this guy's
not going to get any more yards period.

Speaker 2 (01:20:28):
Well, especially given how the game started, right yeah, because
I'm watching it going all right, they're establishing Chase Brown
and they're saying to Cleveland, come on, you know, bring
up another guy, but walk another guy into the box,
sell out to stop the run and then will kill you.
And they managed to do what I thought was going
to be not impossible but really really difficult, which is cool.

(01:20:49):
We'll take away the weapon you used early and the
weapons you want to use now you're not going to
be able to use because we can stop you on
the outside. Like that's extraordinarily. The Bengals offense, I think
we would all agree, is hard to defend. That doesn't
mean you can't. It doesn't mean you know that that
Joe is immune to making mistakes. But they're hard to
defend because of the all the different ways they're supposed

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to be able to beat you. Cleveland made it look easy.

Speaker 10 (01:21:13):
Yeah, yeah, and they have the personnel to do it.
I don't know that a lot of other teams are
going to have that. Now that the Steelers signed to
Jabril Peppers, that that's concerning and they always play us
tough too. But yeah, we're going to have our day.
I knew it wasn't going to be a blowout, and
a lot of people saying it was going to be
a blow It's never a blowout hardly ever with the Browns,

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and like you said, he's happy to get out of
their lives.

Speaker 2 (01:21:41):
Honestly, if if that game Jim thank you very much
for the phone call. And if they if they put
Andre Schmid in the Ring of honor, I'll give you
and I told you so. But if that game is
played in December, we're all saying the same thing. Survive
in advance, get out of there with a win like

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number one. In the NFL, there just aren't that many
blowouts right look around the league. This week, the Miami
didn't show up against Indy that was a blowout. The
Commander's Giants game, Washington scored a touchdown in the fourth quarter,
the margin ended up being fifteen, and Jacksonville won a

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game that was for the most part pretty lopsided. I
think that was twenty to three at half time over Carolina.
Beyond that, everything's close. Like last night's close. Minnesota was
a different team in the fourth quarter. There are NFL
games I when I see a blowout in the NFL.
When you see the backup quarterback playing in the fourth
quarter of an NFL game where the starter didn't get hurt,

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it just it feels like such an exception to the rule.
Because most games are in doubt in the fourth quarter,
So I expect every NFL game to be in doubt
in the fourth quarter. That one. There's a little bit
of a yankiness to it because it is Week one,
because it is the Browns. And look, I'm not here
to tell you that there aren't some concerning issues about
the Bengals offense based on that game against Cleveland, because

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I didn't see a Cincinnati offense that was like, screw it,
We're gonna take some chances here. Despite the fact that
the Browns are defending us the way they are, they
didn't have an answer for everything that Cleveland was doing.
That can't be the case moving forward. But you're gonna
have to win games that way. That can't be the
general rule. The way they played has to be the exception.

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But they won a game when what they did offensively
was the exception to their pretty firmly established rule. That's
not nothing, man. And you know, like I talked about
it last week. Can the defense when Joe Burrow doesn't
have it, When Joe and the offense maybe there's turnovers,
which thankfully on Sunday there weren't. Can can the defense

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carry them? You might struggle to say the defense carried them,
but they were one of the main reasons why the
Bengals won the game by the way, Jamar Chase, Joe
Burrow and others on offense could not have been more
effusive in their not just praise for the defense, but
how grateful they were to have that unit bail them out.
So to me, Sunday was a positive. That can't be

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how they win the rest of the season. I don't
think any of us will be stunned if the defense
takes a step back against a more talented Jacksonville offense,
or in any of the two road games they have
against Minnesota and Denver. But the two, I guess the
three large takeaways for me were Number one, it's okay
to be lucky. The Bengals got lucky. Defensive improvement had

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to start somewhere, and offensively they just simply must be better.
But if there's an offense in the NFL that when
they have a bad week, I assume that's going to
be the extreme exception. Frankly, it's this one quickly here, Randy,
you're on ESPN fifteen thirty Randy, good afternoon. How are you.

Speaker 7 (01:25:01):
Name? Hey?

Speaker 5 (01:25:02):
Good show? I couldn't agree with you.

Speaker 9 (01:25:05):
I couldn't agree with you more. I mean, honestly, take
a little luck, whatever you want to call it. I
actually thought the defense. Did you know they the two
picks were not easy picks. Don't you give those guys credit?
It's like, hey, you look great.

Speaker 1 (01:25:21):
Picking that ball off.

Speaker 9 (01:25:23):
The one thing I came away from that is, you
know it's week one.

Speaker 2 (01:25:26):
It was week one.

Speaker 9 (01:25:27):
For the officials, because man, there was a couple of
calls in the in the first couple drives that that
defense of what illegal contact on Burke.

Speaker 2 (01:25:39):
I'm like, oh my gosh, and missed.

Speaker 9 (01:25:42):
The missed a frequent face mask on Joe Burrow. And
it's like okay, and then but yet then you have
to end of the game you call up you know,
personal flegance, uh Trey for smacking him in the face mask,
not holding it, just hit him there. It's likes they
that was week one for them too.

Speaker 2 (01:26:04):
I the the other stuff, you know, the the illegal
contact forgivable subjective call judgment called fine. I have no
idea how, whether it's Joe Burrow or any other quarterback,
how you miss a face mass penalty against a player
who has grabbed a quarterbacks face mask. I don't know

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how you missed that. It's the most scrutinized you're standing
right there. There's always an official right on the quarterback.
No player on the field is scrutinized more he's got
the ball. Like, for the life of me, I don't
know how you missed that. And you know, to me,
that's not a it's a it's not a Joe Burrow thing.

(01:26:45):
It's a in an apt officials thing, like how do
you miss that call? Right? And that there's no subjectivity
to it, like it's a face mass penalty or it's not.
It's not incidental, like it's it's I don't know how
when that happens, how that happens.

Speaker 9 (01:27:03):
Yeah, I mean honestly, And it's weak one. So I'll
give them credit. I'll you know, it's weak one from them,
guys do I'll be curious to see what the defense.
The defense will tell us a lot in this coming game.
If they can even do close to what they did
against Cleveland, it's like, okay, that's another step forward.

Speaker 1 (01:27:22):
So and to be all honest.

Speaker 9 (01:27:24):
With you, I am very curious to see Cleveland go
to Baltimore. I mean, Joe Flacco.

Speaker 5 (01:27:30):
If Cleveland's defense could play.

Speaker 9 (01:27:32):
Baltimore the way they did Cincinnati, that's that could be
a good game, because if you figure Cleveland thinks that
they let one slip away, Baltimore definitely let one slip away.
So you're going to have too pretty much. Matt deems
it and want to win, And I think that'll be
a good game. I hate to say it, but I
think it will.

Speaker 2 (01:27:52):
Yeah, well, Randy, we'll see. Thank you very much for
the phone called Vegas does not agree for what it's worth,
as you might expect. Baltimore's a ten and a half
point favorite, but you know, number one, it's worth wondering
about Baltimore. How do they bounce back from how they
lost on Sunday. At the same time, as much as
it might pay me to say, the Ravens are really
good at bouncing back. If you look at over the

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last couple of years, it was a theme two years
ago all the games they had where they had big
leads in the fourth quarter and blew it. They've lost
a lot of stupid games. The one they lost to
Buffalo and give the Bills credit was a stupid loss.
The pretty good at bouncing back from this. By the way,
the jackson you know, there's a very good chance you
saw none of Jacksonville versus Carolina, which was not a

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very good game. All the Bryce Young hype, the air
has come out of that balloon. Travis eddie En was terrific,
ran for nearly nine yards of carry. They didn't get
Brian Thomas going. Brian Thomas is a terrific player. He
had a one catch I think on seven targets in
that game. They're using Travis under on offense. He had
five catches, Like they've got some dudes. They've got some

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dudes on that Jacksonville offense. And Trevor Lawrence, while you
know he's he's he's been playing for a team that
is they've had a revolving door of coaches and it's
just felt like dysfunction there. He's still a talented QB.
Liam Cohen, as weird as he might be, as a
highly thought of offensive mine now the head coach of
the Jacksonville Jaguars. I think that game does present difficulties

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on Sunday that maybe the Cleveland game did not. Eighteen
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back as an to coach for the Cincinnati Cyclones on
the Bengals. And I know I've I've touched on this

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this afternoon. I think the perfect way to look at
the game from a defensive perspective against the Browns is
that that's a starting off point. You've got to start somewhere.
The Bengals are trying to even though they didn't overhaul
the personnel to a degree, they're trying to overhaul their
defense from what it was last year, which was a

(01:31:27):
huge liability into eventually a strength that was not going
to happen overnight. And obviously because of what the front
office did and didn't do, it wasn't going to happen
with this huge, massive infusion of talent from elsewhere. Now.
Shamar Stewart looked the part on Sunday and Demetrius Knight
looked the part on Sunday. And so you talk about

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starting somewhere, give me what those two did to start
their NFL career as in it continues through. I think TJ.
Slaton's a good pickup. You saw him. The player that
I noticed more than anybody else in real time was
Logan Wilson. Logan Wilson looked fast, he was around the ball,
He made plays for most of the season last year.
I didn't notice Logan Wilson. What I was looking for

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from a defensive perspective on Sunday was number one, win
the football game. Number two tackle better, and rise to
the occasion physically. Those two things happened like it sounds basic, right,
But before we could talk about all the things that
Al Golden can do with his scheme and can they
slow down elite offenses which they didn't play. In order

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to be able to do that, you've got to start
to plant some seeds. You've got to put down some
building blocks, whatever metaphor you want to use. It has
to start somewhere. No better plays to start than week one.
Now you know they passed that test. It's not the
most advanced test, but you know typically the first test
you take is the easiest, and then the next one's

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a little bit more difficult. And that's going to happen
on Sunday against Jacksonville. You had to start somewhere. So
the starting point for me was those two basics. Tackle better,
which they did, show a level of physicality that at
least makes me feel like you're not being pushed around. Also,
you know last year's defense, and maybe this had a

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lot to do with the bad tackling. It often felt
like guys were at a position, not in the right place,
making assignment errors, those sorts of things. I didn't feel
like those things were evident. On Sunday. You could say, well, yeah,
big deal. It was the Browns, and you could focus
on the outcome and say they got lucky because of

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their kicker. Fine, all that's well and good, but this
team doesn't realize its potential if the defense is bad.
In order to go from bad to good, you got
to start somewhere. Sunday was a starting point. It was
a test. It was not the most difficult one, but
they passed it. See if they pass the Sundays five

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I do not want to make our guest wait. The
Cincinnati Cyclones announced just a couple of weeks ago that
longtime Cyclones player Louis Caparusso has been named the organization's
most recent hire as assistant coach. A guy who played

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with the Cyclones had scored fifty six goals with Cincinnati,
had one hundred and eleven assists across four seasons in
one hundred and seventy one regular season games. A fan
favorite as a player has joined Riley Weslowski staff with
the Clones and kind enough to give us a few minutes. Louie,
congratulations on the job, Good afternoon, Thank you for joining us.
How are you.

Speaker 8 (01:35:52):
I'm doing really well. Thanks for having me.

Speaker 2 (01:35:56):
So you're making the transition from player to coach, what
is it like?

Speaker 8 (01:36:02):
It's exciting. I think my body is definitely happy. It's
been a long time coming, you know, enough injuries kind
of forced my hands here to have to take a
transition into coaching, which I've always looked forward to doing,
to be honest, for some time.

Speaker 2 (01:36:20):
So that was my question, Like this has been on
your radar the entire time, kind of just there's the
physical part of it, but mentally, what is it like
making that transition knowing that this was something that kind
of had on your radar all along.

Speaker 8 (01:36:35):
Yeah, it's different. I spent a little bit of time
behind the bench last year just to I guess s
bought at the situation and see what it's like to
watch the game from the bench and not be playing.
And it's definitely a different experience. So I'm appreciitive of
the fact that I got those few games to see
what it's like to be behind the bench. And I

(01:36:57):
know that it's going to be a transition not being
as physically active, So I got to remind myself to
get in the gym every now and then. But uh, mentally,
it is gonna be a change for me, and I
hope that I can uh go through it as gracefully
as possible.

Speaker 2 (01:37:13):
I think in the in the workplace, we all know
what it's like when your your co worker gets promoted
and becomes your boss. Is that dynamic and play here
with some of the.

Speaker 8 (01:37:22):
Guys, uh, I don't think so. I think we we
only have about I believe four or five returning players
from last season. Uh So I don't think that will
play up too much of a part in this season
coming coming up. Justin Vibe is our captain and I

(01:37:42):
grew up playing with justin since we are kids, so
it's gonna be it's gonna be funny being as coach,
But I think our relationship is strong enough that no
matter what, we'll get past it.

Speaker 2 (01:37:53):
Uh what do you what do you like or what
do you anticipate you'll like about working for Riley Weslowski.

Speaker 8 (01:38:01):
I mean, for the the little bit of time that
we've spent together this summer, I'm I'm incredibly impressed. I
feel like I've really really gotten lucky to be able
to coach with someone of his intelligence of the game,
his his detail oriented approach to to everything that the

(01:38:23):
whole program in general. I'm learning so much just in
the short time has been around him. I think we
really really struggled when when we hired him, and I'm
looking forward to to helping him out and in giving
him the assistance he needs to win.

Speaker 2 (01:38:39):
You're trying to win games at this level. You're also
still in player development mode and you know, at the
end of the day you serve at the mercy of
the parent club. So it's there's like three different there's
like three different responsibilities kind of rolled into one there.
What what do you anticipate that being like.

Speaker 8 (01:38:56):
That's a that's a very that's a very good question.
It's it's dificult at times because you're trying to win
games and at the same time you try and develop
the players, and you're at times, it's true you are
at the mercy of your affiliate. So this this position,
you know, the East Coast Hockey Lay, the e PHL
is in a in a tough position. It's not an
easy place to coach in because of all of the

(01:39:19):
moving parts. But I guess in the long run, it
makes you better for it personally. And you got to
be dynamic. You got to be able to think on
your toes, and you got to you know, be mouldible
with the situation that presents itself as a coach.

Speaker 2 (01:39:34):
Season gets underway here in I got to guess about
five weeks, walk me through what a what a hockey training.

Speaker 8 (01:39:41):
Camp is like, M Yeah, it's it's tough, It's it's
a it's a long process. You know, even though it's
about ten to twelve days, it feels long when you're
just excited for the season to begin. But a typical
day would consist of maybe you know, one and a
half two hours on the ice. Uh, maybe We'll usually

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have an ice scrape in between, so we'll split that
up into two sessions. There's a good workout involved. The
players usually get together and eat together. We'll usually have
a meal before and after and and then they'll get
treatment for what they need work on. And Uh, it's
it pretty much is that, rinse and repeat. And we
tried to not bog them down with too many systems,

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but at the same time put a system in place
so that when they show up for game one they
have some sort of structure to cling to out there.

Speaker 2 (01:40:32):
Uh, you very quickly kind of developed yourself as a
fan favorite here, and you would you had obviously been
a professional hockey player for for quite a while. Is it?
Is it extra cool doing this and not having to
learn a new city, learn a new organization, and have
more than just a basic background familiarity with with what

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the Cyclones are all about.

Speaker 8 (01:40:55):
Yeah, it's awesome to be still here with the Cincinnati
Cyclone than to have this be my first opportunity to
coach with a team that I love in a city
that I've grown in love with as well my family
and I we call this place home. And to be
able to and being so comfortable with the fan base
and all the love that they have shown me over

(01:41:16):
the years. I couldn't after a better arrangement for my
family and I.

Speaker 2 (01:41:21):
It's pretty cool. I know Cyclones fans are very excited.
Congratulations on the new opportunity, and here's to a long
and successful coaching career. We appreciate the time, Louis, thanks so.

Speaker 8 (01:41:32):
Much, Thank you so much. I really appreciate your time.

Speaker 2 (01:41:36):
You're very welcome. That's Louis Caparusso, named assistant coach of
the Cincinnati Cyclones after a terrific playing career which included
four seasons in Cincinnati with the Clones, where as I mentioned,
he became very much a fan favorite. Sports headlines our
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for life. Check out Kelseychef dot com. Bengals made a
series of roster moves. They have acquired another edge rusher,
and let's be honest, I don't like to use this term,
but I will anyway. They're hoping that someone else's trash
is their treasure. Isaiah Foski was cut by the Saints
at the end of training camp. He's an edge rusher,

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former second round pick by New Orleans out of Notre Dame.
A bust, just call it what it is. Reunites with
Al Golden Bengals bring him in. Cincinnati has also signed
Mike Pennell off the practice squad to the active roster.
Played in the game on Sunday against Cleveland. Lucas Patrick
goes on ir defensive end. Miles Coal Miles Coal excuse
me has been signed to the practice squad, and Isaiah Thomas,

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the edge rusher, has been released from the practice squad.
Don't forget the game on Sunday at one. You'll hear
it on ESPN fifteen thirty with pregame coverage beginning at
nine to oh five Reds and Padres Tonight, middle game
of a three game series, Cincinnati blowing a three ZIP
lead last night. Zach Lettel versus righty Michael King nine
to forty tonight, seven hundred WLW. It is remarkable not

(01:43:11):
just how bad the Reds have been this season in
extra innings games, although that's obviously pretty noteworthy. They've played
in fourteen they've won free. That's been basically ten percent
of their games have gone into extras They've won three
of them, so not great. Maybe this is just something
that's of interest to me. The Reds have this season

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played in fourteen extra innings games. None of those games
have gone past the eleventh, most have ended by the tenth.
But they have come to the plate in either the
tenth or eleventh inning this season nineteen times. In fourteen
of those innings they have failed to score, which is

(01:43:54):
remarkable if you consider the fact that Rob Manford is
handing them a guy in scoring position with nobody out
at the start of every extra inning. I tweeted this
last night. Chris Welsh, who's obviously terrific, tweeted this at
me here that over a four year stretch from twenty

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twenty one to twenty twenty four, if you had a
guy on second with nobody out, your run expectancy was
one point one four You were expected to score more
than one run one point one to four runs. Over
the course of one hundred and twenty five years, in
situations where teams have had a guy on second with
nobody out, that team has scored at least one run

(01:44:37):
sixty one percent of the time. Now, there are variables.
The pitcher that's on the mound which hitters are up.
Maybe the speed of the run around second base, but
you have a better than an average chance of scoring
a run at least one when you have a guy
on second with nobody out. In fourteen of the nineteen
instances and extra innings the Reds have not scored. That

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is remarkable if they're league average in that regard. And
I put this on social media as well. The team's
two thirteen on base percentage in extra innings last in
the sport. They have three extra base hits and extra
innings this season. They have nearly as many sacrifice bunts,
two of them. They're one thirty four extra innings batting average,

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MLB's third worst. So, like you put a bow on
the season. At some point, barring some sort of miraculous turnaround,
we're going to talk about like games that could have
gone their way. Look at the extra innings record and
specifically how they how bad they've been on offense. We
talked a little bit last week about Elie Dela Cruz.

(01:45:40):
The Elie Dela Cruz thing for me is this, Okay,
Ellie is marvelously talented. They should not trade him. They
should not give up on him. It is fair eye
thing to call his season a disappointment for two reasons. One,
look at the numbers. You're not seeing You're not seeing progress.

(01:46:02):
You're not seeing a year that statistically looks dramatically better
than last year. I've seen, folks boys not a finished
product yet. Okay, I believe, and maybe you'll disagree. I
believe there's room between what Ellie was last year and
what the finished product should look like. This season, he
has been closer to what he was last year than

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a finished product. That's not progress. Number Two, there are
still some blatantly non competitive at bats. Last Friday against
the Mets, he strikes out in the ninth That doesn't
take the bat off his shoulder, not even the least
competitive at bat of the night that came two innings prior,
batting from the right side. Defensively, he has done nothing

(01:46:44):
to shut the people up who want him to play
center field. I'm not completely in their camp, but I'm
open to the possibility that, you know what, maybe this
guy can't be counted on to play shortstop at a
reliable level, much less a high level. The fact that
we're still talking about that is not prog the fact
that this season it has felt like Ellie has kind

(01:47:04):
of run in place that's not success. You might say, well, mo,
you know he's had the quad issue. Okay, cool. Terry
Francona says, well, he doesn't want to come out of
the lineup. I don't know. You're the manager, You're allowed
to tell him no. Would it make sense to have
him dh more, would it make sense to give him
an occasional day off. I admire the fact that the
dude wants to play a day and certainly can appreciate

(01:47:25):
durability at shortstop, but it's totally counterproductive if him playing
every day is going to come at the expense of power,
productivity and his defense, which is shaky at best. The
other part of it, though, is this, this team, for
better or for worse, was built around Ellie being really
really good. That hasn't worked. The parts around him haven't worked.

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Rad's two whole production among the worst in Baseball four
whole production league average. This team was built around Elle
being a star this year. He hasn't been a superstar
this year. By the way, he hasn't homered. He's homered
once in seventy eight days. June twenty third. I think
that's been seventy eight days, more than eleven weeks. He's

(01:48:11):
homered once since then. He still holds the club lead.
So the team around him is flawed. We knew that.
What was supposed to help, I don't know make up
for that was Ellie was supposed to be a star
this year. That is cut into by the fact that
people haven't gotten on base enough in front of him,
specifically in the two spot and the cleanup hitter protection behind.

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It doesn't scare anybody, but yeah, this team needed Ellie
to be great. To this point, eighteen games to go,
he hasn't been. He maybe one day. I hope he is,
and I won't be surprised if that happens as soon
as next year. But this season, relative to what they
needed and relative to what he was last year and
what we hope he is, Yes, I'm completely comfortable calling

(01:48:58):
this season through one hundred and forty four games a disappointment. Taren,
how are we on time? Mike, my friend, you can
have that one minute go ahead?

Speaker 5 (01:49:10):
Okay, thank you. Well. Oakley Greens is a great place
to go.

Speaker 11 (01:49:16):
Folks check it out. It really is a nice place.
So they go Red for Bengals. What do you want
to hear?

Speaker 2 (01:49:24):
H give me, give me, I'll extend this. Give me
forty five seconds on forty five seconds.

Speaker 5 (01:49:29):
On both Okay, the Pansky and Sward swords Schwartz are
better coaches than Taylor and Golden. That's my opinion right
off the back from what I'm seeing. Uh, Brandon and
I hit a great game.

Speaker 11 (01:49:48):
I don't know what happened to Cam Taylor britt he
fell off the edge of the cliff thirty five point
sixtyff By.

Speaker 5 (01:49:54):
He was, brother, you better do better. DJ Turner, I
still maintain is too small in this age of Paul
or wide outs. But getting to the Reds tonight, the
left coast hammer got hit on last night again, and
that's kind of vague and I understand. But tonight they

(01:50:15):
got Michael King, who's just come back from injury, who's
was their best picture before he went down. He's got
a two point and that doesn't spell well for the Reds.
Mo I, how embarrassing is to have a home long
leader with nineteen home runs.

Speaker 2 (01:50:36):
It's awful, Mike, It's it's awful. Nineteen home runs and
he has he's homered once since June twenty third. Like
that's this franchises. Either unwillingness or inability to have dudes
who are home run threats is beyond frustrating. I'm sorry
to cut you short, Mike. I'm sure we'll talk later
this week. I appreciate the call. We are very thankful

(01:50:57):
of the folks from Oakley Greens for to us. They
are terrific. Drew wester Heidi producing on site, Terre Bland
producing back in ken Wood. We are back at it
tomorrow in studio at three oh five. Have an unbelievable night.
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