April 25, 2025 • 12 mins
James Rapien from BengalsTalk.com joined us on Friday to discuss Shemar Stewart coming to Cincinnati in round one of the 2025 NFL Draft as well as what's ahead for the Bengals in the coming rounds.
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(00:46):
He has been busy. He was with us yesterday. He
successfully mocked Shamar Stewart to the Bengals at seventeen overall.
He's let's see, we got Bengals talk dot com. He
locked on Bengals, entered the jungle and pretty much at
our beck and call whenever we ask, not just on
this show, but pretty much at any iHeart station. Our
(01:07):
friend James or Penis here, how many interviews have you done.
Speaker 4 (01:09):
Today with with iHeart? Three? Yes, three?
Speaker 2 (01:19):
Where are you right now?
Speaker 1 (01:22):
I'm walking I'm actually going to I'm walking to another
interview at Great Americans because nothing since NFL Draft like
Great American Pool.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
Uh it is, it's uh, it's it's known for that
in October baseball. So very good. All right, Well, I
appreciate you joining us on your walk. Uh we said
yesterday we talked about this. You brought it up. Whoever
they took was was going to carry with them? A yeah,
butt right? Yeah? But medicals yeah, but character Yeah, but
(01:52):
you know, the production's not there, but the physical traits are. Yeah,
but the productions there, but the physical traits are whatever
it is there was gonna be a yeah, but there's aye. Yeah.
But with Shamar Stewart, should that be what we're focusing
on or should we be focusing on those immensely impressive
physical traits.
Speaker 4 (02:09):
All the above? I think that's that's what I'm thinking.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
I think it's all about it because you can you
can fall in love with the trades and then get
to the yeah, but and then focus on one or
the other. And I think that's where people are, like
on social media, and really the fan base. There was
a guy we were getting on the elevator yesterday. I
wrote about this after aj Green Talk is part of
(02:34):
the Bengals draft party, and the guy was like anyone
with Shamar Stewart and and like, that's how a lot
of people feel because of the lack of production, because
they are focused on that one side of things. But
when you look at the the entire profiles, everything he
is and everything he's been and hasn't been, this is
(02:56):
a It is a gamble on the Bengals, or by
the Bengals, on their coaching staff, on their evaluation, and
on Shamar and the thing that they're gambling on. I
would rather gamble on than some of the other flaws
that I think were in this draft at seventeen overall,
because I think it's there's a realistic path to seeing
(03:17):
him be this awesome player for you, and he's so
physically gifted. More than even if he doesn't get there,
he's still going to be a quality starter. Like as
long as he comes in works hard.
Speaker 5 (03:32):
I think he's got a pretty time more just because
he's so physically gifted and we have no reason to
believe that he wouldn't work hard because he chucked every
character box that you look for.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
I tried to focus on this because you know me,
like I'm a I'm an optimistic guy. I try to
go glass half full. He had thirty nine pressures last year. Yes,
he only had one and a half sacks, but that's
almost mathematically impossible. Well, it's almost a statistical anomaly that
he has that many pressures and doesn't get to the quarterback.
(04:06):
That I'm going to go ahead and assume and understanding.
You know, applying pressure as a pro is a lot
different than applying pressure in college, just because the level
of competition. If he consistently applies pressure in the NFL,
the sacks will come. Am I am I being too
rose colored looking at things that way.
Speaker 4 (04:26):
No, No, you're not in I think the facts will
come because he's going to learn to get better at finishing.
And I think that comes with work ethic as much
as I don't think you look at him the measurables
and whether you want to look at highlights or anything
in the tweed, you look at this guy and you
(04:46):
see him and you're like, all right, well, clearly he's
checking all the boxes that you need him to check,
So why can't he get to the quarterback? Of course
he can't, and so I think they do need.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
To figure out how to get.
Speaker 4 (04:58):
Him to finish the techn meek element of it.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
But there's no reason to believe that they can't get
that out of it. This is it's a Honestly, it's
a bet that I think a lot of people would
make if they had the full picture. And there are
a lot of people that look at it interesting the
one and a half sacks and completely zone out, and
I don't think it's that that simple. And I don't
think that it's a simple but he's just a fan
tackling player, because I'm not sure how accurate that is.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
Even though some of the metrics says, if Walter Nolan
would have been there, is he the pick?
Speaker 4 (05:34):
Yeah? I think so. Yeah, I think they would have
taken as certain. I think he's a guy that we
identified and talked about every much way and there's a
reason why. I mean, they they like Nolan a lot.
They thought that, I mean, they were gonna make him.
I think they would have probably made him the first
defensive tacking kicks in the first round since ninety ninety four, right,
(05:55):
second of my lifetime, and so they thought really highly
of them. But I think they thought really highly from
Mar Stewart too, And this isn't day I've seen something
compared to Frank rag Now early Trice. I don't think
this is it at all. I think they were really
comfortable with Jamar Stewart's talents. I just think from an
(06:15):
almost a need stampin it kind of breaks the tie
because they've they've been longing for that interior pass rush
and that's what Walter Nolan was and is, And clearly
they had Nolan ahead of Harmon and so that it's
one of those things. He didn't get to you, and
I wasn't expecting him to get to them, and he's
awful Other than I thought.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
All right, let's look ahead to tonight. If things fold
the way you expect between pick number thirty three and
pick number forty eight, who's there at forty nine that
I really really want?
Speaker 4 (06:53):
Oh man, it's so interesting to me because right now
I look at who's there and I'm I'm pretty not
excited about some of these guys that I thought would
be first rounders, And they can't even worry really in
on him. If he's somehow there at forty nine. I
would imagine the Bengals are in on him too. I
(07:14):
think they really liked him every not as much as
mal Starts, but liked him and and so yeah, he's there,
I would be really interested in him. I'll just stick
with the safeties. I wrote position by position. I think
Kevin Winston' junior out of Pennas State is very much
in play. I picked forty nine. Xavier Wats obviously plays
for Al gold met Notre Dame. Al Golden loves him.
(07:36):
It seemed like a fit the moment they hired Al
gold that Xavier watch is going to be at Bengal.
Could totally see that happening. So I tick forty nine.
Now there are other guys that stand out here. Could
they do Will Johnson out at Michigan if he's somehow
falls to forty nine and there's some concern, a long
term concern about his knee. I think the Bengals view
ended day really high end corner. That fee in a
(08:00):
lot of mocks fooling this far, so you can look
often as long as they don't have a huge medical
concerns that some of these teams do, maybe they take
him at forty nine. I think Tate Rattlidge has been
arguably the most popular second round MOP player to the
Bengals on every simulator. Tate Rattlidge is certainly in the mix.
Jonas Evaia is in the mix as well. So now
(08:22):
we're getting into the guard position. I think Dylan excuse me,
I think another guy out of Georgia, Jared will There's
Jared Wilson, and then there's a dying Fairchild as well,
So I think all three Georgia Lineman could be in
the mix. With fair Child, you could see him maybe
being at eighty one forty nine. But yeah, I think
(08:43):
you've got to leave tonight with a guard, especially you
look at the division and what the division is with
multiple defensive tackles. Yeah, it's it's pretty important, I think
to add a quality guard tonight. So maybe they do
it at forty nine, Maybe they trade back into it.
Maybe han't been eighty one, but they got to get more.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
One more, and I'll make it about Shamar Stewart. So
what a lot of people have focused on in the
aftermath of last night is how he answered the question
about his meetings with the Bengals, where he couldn't recall
their conversation during the combine, which I gotta be honest
with you, That doesn't bother me. He's at the combine,
He's talking to a lot of different teams. I'm sure
his head is spinning like one runs into the other.
(09:25):
That doesn't bother me. Others will take that on top
of the fact that he didn't take a thirty visit
and go, look, they made a pick based on limited information.
What would you say about that?
Speaker 4 (09:37):
That just because he.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
Didn't remember in the moment the combine visit doesn't mean
he doesn't remember it.
Speaker 4 (09:45):
I asked him about that today and he recalled a
conversation with Jerry Montgomery. He was going a seat of
the draft in Green Bay where there's a bunch of
people around him, and he gets pulled on a conference
room and have to talk to us that conference college.
I did not specifically, I'm bringing the angles coaches and
having a specific media with the Cincinnati Bengals because all
the coaches probably blending together by the end in his mind.
(10:09):
And uh, and so that's how I would look at
that now. I would say, as far as the thirty.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
Visit, a lot of these thirty visits are leading up
questions about players, and you bring him in to get
a little bit more, to look at the medicals more
and to get more information. Maybe they didn't need more information,
and usually it's a negative filler of thoughts that you
need to check to give that player that thumbs up.
And clearly he was a pain enough prospect talk about
(10:39):
the end, but that yeah, but with him didn't concern
them enough to bring him in for a thirty visit.
So I don't have any doubts there or any worries.
Speaker 3 (10:50):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
I know you are very busy. I can't thank you enough.
Enjoyed the rest of this weekend. I'm guessing you'll hear
from me soon. Thanks so much, can't wait. That's our guy,
James Orpene walking from the venue formerly known as Paul
Brown Stadium to GABP and then he's gonna walk back
over to the venue formerly known as Paul Brown Stadium
(11:11):
and cover rounds two and three of the draft tonight, which,
by the way, you can listen to right here on
ESPN fifteen thirty. ESPN Radios coverage begins at seven p m.
James repen Bengals Talk dot Com Enter the Jungle and
locked on Bengals. I want to thank our friends at
Chi Roofing for sponsoring the CCHI Roofing Hotline. It's built
(11:35):
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(00:46):
He has been busy. He was with us yesterday. He
successfully mocked Shamar Stewart to the Bengals at seventeen overall.
He's let's see, we got Bengals talk dot com. He
locked on Bengals, entered the jungle and pretty much at
our beck and call whenever we ask, not just on
this show, but pretty much at any iHeart station. Our
(01:07):
friend James or Penis here, how many interviews have you done.
Speaker 4 (01:09):
Today with with iHeart? Three? Yes, three?
Speaker 2 (01:19):
Where are you right now?
Speaker 1 (01:22):
I'm walking I'm actually going to I'm walking to another
interview at Great Americans because nothing since NFL Draft like
Great American Pool.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
Uh it is, it's uh, it's it's known for that
in October baseball. So very good. All right, Well, I
appreciate you joining us on your walk. Uh we said
yesterday we talked about this. You brought it up. Whoever
they took was was going to carry with them? A yeah,
butt right? Yeah? But medicals yeah, but character Yeah, but
(01:52):
you know, the production's not there, but the physical traits are. Yeah,
but the productions there, but the physical traits are whatever
it is there was gonna be a yeah, but there's aye. Yeah.
But with Shamar Stewart, should that be what we're focusing
on or should we be focusing on those immensely impressive
physical traits.
Speaker 4 (02:09):
All the above? I think that's that's what I'm thinking.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
I think it's all about it because you can you
can fall in love with the trades and then get
to the yeah, but and then focus on one or
the other. And I think that's where people are, like
on social media, and really the fan base. There was
a guy we were getting on the elevator yesterday. I
wrote about this after aj Green Talk is part of
(02:34):
the Bengals draft party, and the guy was like anyone
with Shamar Stewart and and like, that's how a lot
of people feel because of the lack of production, because
they are focused on that one side of things. But
when you look at the the entire profiles, everything he
is and everything he's been and hasn't been, this is
(02:56):
a It is a gamble on the Bengals, or by
the Bengals, on their coaching staff, on their evaluation, and
on Shamar and the thing that they're gambling on. I
would rather gamble on than some of the other flaws
that I think were in this draft at seventeen overall,
because I think it's there's a realistic path to seeing
(03:17):
him be this awesome player for you, and he's so
physically gifted. More than even if he doesn't get there,
he's still going to be a quality starter. Like as
long as he comes in works hard.
Speaker 5 (03:32):
I think he's got a pretty time more just because
he's so physically gifted and we have no reason to
believe that he wouldn't work hard because he chucked every
character box that you look for.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
I tried to focus on this because you know me,
like I'm a I'm an optimistic guy. I try to
go glass half full. He had thirty nine pressures last year. Yes,
he only had one and a half sacks, but that's
almost mathematically impossible. Well, it's almost a statistical anomaly that
he has that many pressures and doesn't get to the quarterback.
(04:06):
That I'm going to go ahead and assume and understanding.
You know, applying pressure as a pro is a lot
different than applying pressure in college, just because the level
of competition. If he consistently applies pressure in the NFL,
the sacks will come. Am I am I being too
rose colored looking at things that way.
Speaker 4 (04:26):
No, No, you're not in I think the facts will
come because he's going to learn to get better at finishing.
And I think that comes with work ethic as much
as I don't think you look at him the measurables
and whether you want to look at highlights or anything
in the tweed, you look at this guy and you
(04:46):
see him and you're like, all right, well, clearly he's
checking all the boxes that you need him to check,
So why can't he get to the quarterback? Of course
he can't, and so I think they do need.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
To figure out how to get.
Speaker 4 (04:58):
Him to finish the techn meek element of it.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
But there's no reason to believe that they can't get
that out of it. This is it's a Honestly, it's
a bet that I think a lot of people would
make if they had the full picture. And there are
a lot of people that look at it interesting the
one and a half sacks and completely zone out, and
I don't think it's that that simple. And I don't
think that it's a simple but he's just a fan
tackling player, because I'm not sure how accurate that is.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
Even though some of the metrics says, if Walter Nolan
would have been there, is he the pick?
Speaker 4 (05:34):
Yeah? I think so. Yeah, I think they would have
taken as certain. I think he's a guy that we
identified and talked about every much way and there's a
reason why. I mean, they they like Nolan a lot.
They thought that, I mean, they were gonna make him.
I think they would have probably made him the first
defensive tacking kicks in the first round since ninety ninety four, right,
(05:55):
second of my lifetime, and so they thought really highly
of them. But I think they thought really highly from
Mar Stewart too, And this isn't day I've seen something
compared to Frank rag Now early Trice. I don't think
this is it at all. I think they were really
comfortable with Jamar Stewart's talents. I just think from an
(06:15):
almost a need stampin it kind of breaks the tie
because they've they've been longing for that interior pass rush
and that's what Walter Nolan was and is, And clearly
they had Nolan ahead of Harmon and so that it's
one of those things. He didn't get to you, and
I wasn't expecting him to get to them, and he's
awful Other than I thought.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
All right, let's look ahead to tonight. If things fold
the way you expect between pick number thirty three and
pick number forty eight, who's there at forty nine that
I really really want?
Speaker 4 (06:53):
Oh man, it's so interesting to me because right now
I look at who's there and I'm I'm pretty not
excited about some of these guys that I thought would
be first rounders, And they can't even worry really in
on him. If he's somehow there at forty nine. I
would imagine the Bengals are in on him too. I
(07:14):
think they really liked him every not as much as
mal Starts, but liked him and and so yeah, he's there,
I would be really interested in him. I'll just stick
with the safeties. I wrote position by position. I think
Kevin Winston' junior out of Pennas State is very much
in play. I picked forty nine. Xavier Wats obviously plays
for Al gold met Notre Dame. Al Golden loves him.
(07:36):
It seemed like a fit the moment they hired Al
gold that Xavier watch is going to be at Bengal.
Could totally see that happening. So I tick forty nine.
Now there are other guys that stand out here. Could
they do Will Johnson out at Michigan if he's somehow
falls to forty nine and there's some concern, a long
term concern about his knee. I think the Bengals view
ended day really high end corner. That fee in a
(08:00):
lot of mocks fooling this far, so you can look
often as long as they don't have a huge medical
concerns that some of these teams do, maybe they take
him at forty nine. I think Tate Rattlidge has been
arguably the most popular second round MOP player to the
Bengals on every simulator. Tate Rattlidge is certainly in the mix.
Jonas Evaia is in the mix as well. So now
(08:22):
we're getting into the guard position. I think Dylan excuse me,
I think another guy out of Georgia, Jared will There's
Jared Wilson, and then there's a dying Fairchild as well,
So I think all three Georgia Lineman could be in
the mix. With fair Child, you could see him maybe
being at eighty one forty nine. But yeah, I think
(08:43):
you've got to leave tonight with a guard, especially you
look at the division and what the division is with
multiple defensive tackles. Yeah, it's it's pretty important, I think
to add a quality guard tonight. So maybe they do
it at forty nine, Maybe they trade back into it.
Maybe han't been eighty one, but they got to get more.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
One more, and I'll make it about Shamar Stewart. So
what a lot of people have focused on in the
aftermath of last night is how he answered the question
about his meetings with the Bengals, where he couldn't recall
their conversation during the combine, which I gotta be honest
with you, That doesn't bother me. He's at the combine,
He's talking to a lot of different teams. I'm sure
his head is spinning like one runs into the other.
(09:25):
That doesn't bother me. Others will take that on top
of the fact that he didn't take a thirty visit
and go, look, they made a pick based on limited information.
What would you say about that?
Speaker 4 (09:37):
That just because he.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
Didn't remember in the moment the combine visit doesn't mean
he doesn't remember it.
Speaker 4 (09:45):
I asked him about that today and he recalled a
conversation with Jerry Montgomery. He was going a seat of
the draft in Green Bay where there's a bunch of
people around him, and he gets pulled on a conference
room and have to talk to us that conference college.
I did not specifically, I'm bringing the angles coaches and
having a specific media with the Cincinnati Bengals because all
the coaches probably blending together by the end in his mind.
(10:09):
And uh, and so that's how I would look at
that now. I would say, as far as the thirty.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
Visit, a lot of these thirty visits are leading up
questions about players, and you bring him in to get
a little bit more, to look at the medicals more
and to get more information. Maybe they didn't need more information,
and usually it's a negative filler of thoughts that you
need to check to give that player that thumbs up.
And clearly he was a pain enough prospect talk about
(10:39):
the end, but that yeah, but with him didn't concern
them enough to bring him in for a thirty visit.
So I don't have any doubts there or any worries.
Speaker 3 (10:50):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
I know you are very busy. I can't thank you enough.
Enjoyed the rest of this weekend. I'm guessing you'll hear
from me soon. Thanks so much, can't wait. That's our guy,
James Orpene walking from the venue formerly known as Paul
Brown Stadium to GABP and then he's gonna walk back
over to the venue formerly known as Paul Brown Stadium
(11:11):
and cover rounds two and three of the draft tonight, which,
by the way, you can listen to right here on
ESPN fifteen thirty. ESPN Radios coverage begins at seven p m.
James repen Bengals Talk dot Com Enter the Jungle and
locked on Bengals. I want to thank our friends at
Chi Roofing for sponsoring the CCHI Roofing Hotline. It's built
(11:35):
by Chi Roofing. Your number one pick for roof replacements
and repairs. Go to seven to three to one roof
dot Com and get ten percent off any roof. We're
broadcasting today from a twin Peaks in Westchester. Today's show
service of Hello Garage Cincinnati. Upgrade your garage from the
floor up with Hello Garage of Cincinnati. Schedule a free
estimate today. Just go to Hello Garage dot com. All right,
(11:59):
lot of ground to cover between now and six o'clock
on the Michelobultrare five o'clock Happy Hour. This is ESPN
fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station.
Speaker 4 (12:07):
Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen thirty Traffic.
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From the UC Health Traffic Center. At you See Health,
You'll find comprehensive care sol personal that makes your best
tomorrow possible. That's boundless care for gender outcomes. Expect more.
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the Blue Run getting the points of an accident to
seventy five westbound approaching Taylor Mill. That accident now cleared
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