March 20, 2025 • 23 mins
Richard Skinner from Local 12 joined us on yesterday's NCAA Tournament spectacular. We discussed UK's chances, his archaic bracket, and a few Bengals items.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:07):
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Speaker 3 (00:12):
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Speaker 2 (00:26):
We are here for another hour.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
Dan Horde, the voice of the Bearcats and the Bengals,
joins us. Coming up in just about twenty five minutes.
Austin Elmore has Sincy three sixty at noon. We talk
about like annual traditions. Richard Skinner's here with me every year,
and we can kind of count on it because I
know you're not going to be busy doing anything else.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
No. Actually, this is a good week because it came
a week after free agency start. Usually this is like
right again free agency. Yeah, thank goodness. We got the
contracts done on Tuesday and we can put all of
it behind us, except for a guard in Trey Henderson
is a guard. I mean, they they're visit, they're they're
hosting Lucas Patrick of the New Orleans Saints. Good. Uh,
(01:06):
he's a guy. He's a starting caliber NFL guard. How
about if I go with that? So is Alex Kappa apparent? Yes?
He is right? I mean the Raiders him up instantly.
Raiders seemed to think. So the Raiders made me go like,
what are we missing here? Well, I will say this,
Alex Kappa played really hurt last year and played through it.
And I think his performance unfortunately dictated that. But he
(01:29):
really did. I mean, and if he doesn't play, I'm
not sure who does? Who does play?
Speaker 3 (01:33):
Well?
Speaker 2 (01:34):
Answer and we're here to talk basketball.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
I know that.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
But why not?
Speaker 3 (01:38):
So a year ago they had interest in Mackai Becton,
he goes to Philly, changed his positions, yep, plays well.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
Why would they suddenly have no interest?
Speaker 3 (01:45):
Oh? They had interest. That was the problem. That's unfortunate.
Why not Brandon, sir, that's a good one. I I
I don't know the answer to that. Thirty three years old,
I guess. But he's still play. He's at a pretty
good level. Not at the Pro Bowl level he used
to play at. He's a four time pro bowler. I
(02:05):
I did the Paul Deaner junior athletic exercise.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
I'm sure you did too, and every time I did it,
Brandon sum literally every time. Yes, and probably at the
price they you're getting for that, That's what Tevin Jenkins,
I know everybody's talked about. I think they're afraid of
the injury. His hurt him and I don't understand, and
the bidding process probably he would have gotten out of control.
But yeah, I'm kind of with you on the Brandon shurf.
I'm not sure what I'm not seeing there. Do you
think if.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
If we're sitting here in mid July, is the Trey
Hendrickson thing still hanging over the start of at the
beginning of camp or is there a resolution between now
and then.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
I think there's a resolution. I'm not sure it's one
that Trey's gonna like. You know, look when Daniel Hunter
got thirty five million last night, Max Crosby got thirty
five million, obviously Miles Garrett got forty. I can't I
can't tell you that Trey isn't as good as Max
Crosby or Daniel Hunter. He fact, he's probably better, but
the Bengals aren't going to pay that, nor probably should
(03:00):
pay that, and so they let him go seek a trade. Yeah,
he found a couple of takers financially, but those takers
weren't willing to give up the draft picks the Bengals wanted.
I think the Bengals always knew that. Yeah, then you
getting back at the bargaining table. But where are we
at there? If you're him? You got to ask North
for thirty million dollars right, yeah? Like, I don't think either.
I don't think either Sid's wrong doing either. But I
don't know what The only resolution I come to, I
(03:20):
wrote a column on this a week or so ago,
is that he plays out the year on his current
contract and you let him go to free agency. And
that's I'm okay with that. I am too.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
I don't know if he's okay with that, fine, but
all right, man, Like this sounds really sort of old
man ish.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
You sign the damn contract. That's a fact, you know.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
I did the the goofy exercise where I put the
picture of him signing the contract on social media, and
I said, show me where you see someone with a
gun to his head, no question, show me where he
looks unhappy, where he looks like he's being held hostage,
where someone's holding his hand making him sign the contract
like he did that willingly. We talk about athletes who
bet on themselves and it pays often we're happy for him. Well,
(03:58):
Trey Hendrickson made a it kind of worked, it kind
of didn't, right, Sorry, man, So go have a great
year and then see what you can get.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
I think that's exactly what That's my standpoint on it too.
And again, do I feel for him, Sure, because he's
certainly being underpaid at the moment, But when you sign
the deal, you weren't underpaid. You felt like that was
fair market value. And this wasn't a quarter of a
century ago. This was just a year or so ago.
And remember even a year ago when he said, well,
I want more or I'll retire, and then came back,
(04:26):
I'm not gonna retire. I'm sorry. I I was half joking. No,
you're kind of in that. The problem here is they
let him go seek the trade. U huh. They did
everything right by him. Yeah, and so when he comes back,
you can't say you didn't give me the opportunity to
do this. They did, and I think the leverages back
in their court. The problem is even now the next extension,
(04:47):
where does it go? Is he willing to sign for
less than thirty I don't think the Bengals go over thirty.
Is he gonna do it for a year and do
this again and go wait a minute, I put pen
to paper and I want more money again. This is
one of the weirdest ones I've ever been a part of.
You knew Jamar was gonna get paid right, You knew
the ballpark for Tea, and it fell in that ballpark
finally with a sweet spot for both this one, to
(05:08):
your point, neither side is wrong, but I don't know
the resolution. I was then going, my guy, you're playing
this year. We got to under contract, go to free
agency next year. Yeah, I'm I'm okay with it too.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
And by the way, I can't imagine the Bengals this
year without them because of what they haven't done.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
That's just they're not for those they'd say, well, you know,
take a second round and a fifth round pick. I'm
not giving him because what the market went very quickly
at Edge Rusher and it wasn't a great market to
begin with. Now you're in the middling. Aziz ojalais seven
eight sac guy, could he help you? Sure? Opposite Trey
Hendrickson but not to replace Trey Henderson a year. I'm
(05:44):
not giving him away.
Speaker 3 (05:45):
Was the press conference the other day, the most lighthearted,
fun press conference you've ever been to.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
It was, and they did Carlos Dunlap and Gino Atkins
together and that was one of the few times you
know talks yea. But it wasn't all that fun. This
one was actually very interesting. I'll be honest with you,
I hate press conferences with a passion. I just we
all share the same quotes, we all write the same story.
It's all the same stuff. But that one was actually
(06:10):
a fun one to be a part of. I'll be
honest with you.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
I liked Jamar shooting down the idea the T Higgins
is a two. I just thought that was cool, And
I said this on our show. If I was T Higgins,
that's my moment, I'd have a hard time sharing it.
And this is his moment. And he sits next to
the guy who's getting paid more.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
He's getting paid twelve million year more. And I think
there's a lot of athletes.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
I think there's a lot of people that would have
been like, uh uh, like this this is my time,
and I get their boys their buds their tea. I
understand all that. I Over the last year, I have
gained a lot of respect for Tea Higgins for how
he has handled all of this up to and including
the press con.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
I mean when he showed up, I think he missed
the first week or two of OTA's and they're voluntary,
but I thought, Okay, I get it, man, You're not
gonna come for any of this stuff, and I can't
blame you. He shows up like after two weeks, and
I think the first question I asked him is locker
was what are you doing here? I mean, you don't
have to be here, he said, I'm working on my craft. Man.
He goes, is what I do? I missed a little
bit of time, but I'm ready to I'm thought, wow.
(07:09):
And to your point, he was really hurt, and Ben
Baby of ESPN did a great story. Ben got him
alone one day in the locker room. He was really
really hurt that people thought he was making business decisions
early in the year not to play and he wasn't.
He's legitimately hurt. Now that's a concern, right, sure, I mean,
in your history is a concern. But he was really
really hurt that he thought people thought he was quote
(07:30):
unquote hurt when he wasn't hurt. He was hurt. No,
he's handled all this as professionally as you could handle it.
Speaker 3 (07:37):
Speaking of hurt, here's a pivot. Yes, the Kentucky Wildcats,
they're hurt. They're beat up now, Yeah, I mean Lamont Butler.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
I'm hoping to get twenty minutes out of the mess
a Kentucky grad. And that's the thing. I had a
friend of mine in high school and I don't know
how he used to be able to pop his shoulder
in and out at real like that's disgusting. That became
a bar bet at all good. Yeah right, And this
is for any girl impressed by that, but I was
always I was grossed out and impressed by you can
really do that. But that's the thing with this guy's
(08:08):
shoulder is he could be good for a game or two.
He can pop it out in two minutes in a
game and he's done. And if he's done, they're just
not good enough.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
Good enough to be Troy, good enough to beat Troy, yes,
good enough to beat Illinois.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
Good enough to beat Illinois.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
I don't know if they're good enough to be That's
the thing I just said that to Rick, Like from
an ex you perspective, you give me, here's the only.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
If you give me the Illinois when it's at its best,
it's like a two seed team. Yes, you give me
Illinois that I've seen at other times losing to like Rutgers.
You're like, okay, yeah, the one the most roller coaster.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
Yes, teams, But but if I'm a Xavier fan, I'm going, Okay,
we're gonna be dogs against Illinois. Give me a neutral
floor matchup against Kentucky with the way they play already
not great defensively, worse with the Butler injury as a
Kentucky grad the first year of Mark Pope in the
middle of this historically great SEC season, this is awesome
(09:00):
to be if you love college master ridiculous night in
the night out watching the top of the SEC has
been awesome for them to get a three seed in
the NCAA tournament in that conference year one.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
All the challenges that come with that.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
Do they need to you don't want to lose Detroit, correct,
but do they need tournament success to validate what they've
done in the regular season, which for my money has
been a smashing success.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
Yeah, I think you just have to avoid tomorrow losing Detroit. Yeah,
I think every Kentucky there is that you get the
Sweet sixteen that was like, that's the pinnacle anything beyond
his complete gravy. So the middle ground then is what
happens in round two. Wouldn't be the end of the
world to lose Illinois, wouldn't be the end of the
world to lose to his Aver even those Avers eleven
seed based on you know, this team being beat up,
in the fact they've struggled in some ways defensively. No,
(09:43):
I think it's been wildly successful. And I think if
you're a Kentucky fan, as long as you avoid debt
tomorrow rather losing to Troy, I think you would say
it's been a good season.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
What's been refreshing to me watching them? And I felt
this way watching the Champions Classic. Mark Pope embraced that event. Yes,
John Caliperry played in that event.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
Was going to the.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
Electric chair watching them at the end of games. And
you know, they lost their share of games where they
didn't execute at the end, but there was imaginative sets
being run in close games.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
The last four minutes.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
We weren't getting shot clock violations and so that was
a start departure he embraced playing in the SEC tournament.
Didn't have a very long stay. He embraced playing in
the SEC tournament. And after the John Caliperry Act, which
wore very very thin, and you know it's exacerbated by
the Saint Peter's and Oakland losses, everything about Mark Pope
was so refreshing, yes, on the floor and off, relative
(10:34):
to what John Caliperry's last four or five years were
all about.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
Yeah, and you know, even despite you lose double digit games, sure,
and you know the old mantra of ten lost Tubby,
and it didn't feel like part of it was to
your point, the SEC was history good. Yeah, and every
night was a war. I mean literally two teams didn't
make the tournament, LSU and South Carolina and they were
they were bums. Yeah. In that South Carolina team, by
(10:58):
the way, did beat Arkansas at home late in the
year pretty handily. So No, it was refreshing. And I
think that's where people can say, well, you know, he
didn't have more regular season success than John Caliperry had,
and you know they they still lost double digit games,
but it was it was just different it was something
different about it and the fact you could give him
a pass. And I know you can say this about
(11:18):
Johns teams because he had all the one and done guys.
I mean to build a team from basically scratch and
do this and get a three seed, that's pretty remarkable
in this league.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
In this league, you know, the SEC is always it's
a high major, like I think casual college basketball fans.
Over the last week or so, I've come to the
realization this might have been the greatest single season any
conference has ever had.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
Yeah, I mean, you can argue, did they game the system?
I don't think they did, but you know they scheduled
some wins out of league. But having an eight to
ninety I think it's eighty eighty nine officially winning percentage
in non conference games if you can figure out that
formula to do that with some wins over a Gonzaga
and a Dude, et cetera. Once you get in the league, man,
people can argue, how does ten and eight get a
(11:58):
three seed? Because you've already done all these things out
of the league and you're just cannabalizing each other. Remember
last year. That was the thing about the Big twelve
is well, they gained the system, they found a way
to just to really well outside the league, and then
they just play each other and eight and ten teams
are gonna get in the tournament. That's fine. They'll game
the system then, to me as much as anything.
Speaker 3 (12:16):
And I just you know, I said this to a
few minutes ago, just watching Auburn and Alabama and Florida
and the teams at the upper end of that league night.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
Missouri was really fun to watch this year. Texas, I mean,
Hexas was. I don't know how they lose sixteen games.
I really don't. They're so daggone good. How they lost
sixteen games and how they blew that lead last night's
beyond the other than the coach is about to get whack,
probably Rodney Terry.
Speaker 3 (12:40):
Yeah, I think there's r answer, and hang tight, I
have a guess about you. Oh no, and the brackets, okay,
because I I think I pinned down Rick on the
sort of like bracket guy he is, Okay, did you
hand draw the entire bracket?
Speaker 2 (12:54):
I did this. I hand drew it Sunday night. Because
I hate to have internet access to me, I had
to write. I pre wrote stories on Xavier. Yeah. Uh
UK making the tournaments. Abe, so Crown preview coming up.
I got a crownpreview come out of my dude for
a local toil dot com. So all I was doing
when the brackets will come out? In case like a
(13:14):
Kentucky got picked early and I had to put the
story online quickly. I had it in front of me
who they played, who was in the region.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
Yeah, but that was Sunday night, like you for the
I know, but I literally have. I went to so
much trouble to hand draw this of like computer paper.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
You literally just drew. You don't even have a bracket.
Just listen, just just listed teams in their seats, and
so it looks like a heat Rose betting slip from
the town report might be.
Speaker 3 (13:37):
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Speaker 2 (14:35):
Richard Skinner is here.
Speaker 3 (14:37):
From Local twelve Local twelve dot com and they're fascinated. Bye,
I really am, because you know, Tony Pike and I
were talking about this.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
I'm don't be mad at me. I'm not as old
as you, but I still I'm not mad that you're
not as old as me, but that I mentioned it.
Speaker 3 (14:52):
Yeah, I still love the days where I would get
the Cincinnati Post the Kentucky Post. Yes, because the Post
former newspaper always had the better bracket.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
Yes they did.
Speaker 3 (15:01):
You always had the better bracket that I grew and
by the afternoon had the Times. Yes, again, the Inquirer.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
Would not have, as we were in after your newspaper back.
Speaker 3 (15:10):
So I'd cut out the bracket and I'd get two
right there by Taylor Mill Pharmacy. I pay thirty five cents,
and I'd usually take two papers. I think that's why
the paper.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
Went under, right, Yeah, that's why the paper went. I'd
take two for the price of one.
Speaker 3 (15:23):
One would be the bracket that I tracked and the
other would be the bracket that I filled out in
our family pool. So I still I can respect writing
the teams in I left.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
I did that here and when my daughters and I
did that with this one. It's very nice. But I
actually have a bracket. You just have a list of teams.
I do because I just literally the last second, I'm like,
oh crap, I gotta write this stuff down in case.
Bracket was online three minutes after I came out. But
once I did all this work and I circled some
stuff and whatever, I'm like, I'm good. This is what
I'm going to live off of the sheet. Okay, very good.
(15:56):
You strike me as the kind of guy when you
enter pools you like submit like four or five. I
only do the CBS bracket. I do three of those
on that, and then I'm in these all these crazy
games where you take like eighteens based on their seeds,
the seven player bracket stuff. I like those far far
more than do it because the bracket. I convince myself.
I go to every game and go, yeah, I can
(16:16):
see why YEO would be Texas saying I'm gonna drive
myself crazy. I think ESPN lets you do like twenty five.
I think something like that. I can't do that. I
would make myself nuts, so I admit that I do too.
I do well. Three. I do the CBS one. I
do one where.
Speaker 3 (16:28):
I I guess who I think is gonna win every game,
and then I do one where I try to fade
what I think everybody else is right. Sometimes it works,
and when it doesn't work, it fails spectacle.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
I would hope the year that San Diego State in
Florida Atlantic made the final four? Did that workout? Well?
Speaker 3 (16:45):
No, okay, not the year Virginia won it, though, because
nobody picked because the year before they lost his sixteen
sent I try. Yeah, so that that year worked out well.
All right, break this down for first of all, can
I ask me how I can't even tell by looking
at the I got chicken scrap. Yeah, everybody that's not
a one making the final four?
Speaker 2 (17:03):
I do. I've got Michigan State out of the South.
Auburn just played Wonky at the other three four. Yeah,
And you know, I could argue after the Kentucky win
when they clinched the SEC that's kind of that. And
they had Alabama and nets that was the trap game
and Alabama's really good. They lost Alabama, but they just
don't look right at the moment.
Speaker 3 (17:19):
For whatever reason, it felt to me in real time
when they won in Tuscaloosa that they peaked.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
Yeah. No, I'm kind of with you on that. And
I I still like them, and he's a good coach.
But I like I like Michigan State. I do like,
believe it or not, two dark horses from that bottom
part Old Miss and Marquette. I think they've got a
real legit shot out of that part. But that's where
Michigan State is. They're in that part of the brack
ole Miss very much lost in the shuffle in the SEC.
They are with Chris if you believe in Ken Palm metrics,
(17:46):
they fit the being top forty offense, top twenty five defense.
Every national champion since like two thousand has been that
you could win it down because that takes into account
a Yukon team that went on a run and they
were fortieth like an offense to Kemba Walker year, Yeah,
whatever it was, if you win down. They probably don't
fit the metrics, but they do fit the top forty,
top twenty five. The one chalk I do like is Florida.
(18:08):
I thought once once they got I mean, they lost
four games and one of them was early near at
Rupp actually literally in the first conference game and they
played Kentucky Toty. That was just a great game. This
seems couldn't miss for goodness sakes. I like Houston, believe
or not. I know their chalk as Google's is gonna
sound that bottom part of the bracket. Ucla fits the metrics.
(18:32):
I know they fit the metrics too, and I root
for them. I know you do. They fit the metrics.
And in the top I'm gonna go with Wisconsin in
the top the East, are you Yeah? I Duke's really
really good. I just I don't when I watch them play.
The other night I watched them again. Man, I know
Cooper Flagg didn't play, and he's gonna play. Whether he
(18:52):
plays a lot in this first game, I don't know.
We don't know yet. That just feels like a really
I mean, they're in with Arizona and Oregon and they
both fit the metrics.
Speaker 3 (19:01):
So Duke did something interesting that we used to do
a little bit more of. They played a non league
game in February. Yes, Madison square guard. So all the
year along, the ACC has not been very good. So
I've held that against Duke. I have two probably and
that's why not that Illinois is awesome. But they played
him in New York and hammered.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
And hammered him. Now was that bad Illinois day?
Speaker 3 (19:20):
Or is that the day day that wasn't the Illinois
of the very end of the regular season, But still
that was you hate to say statement, but no, that
stood out to me. And so I don't hold the
ACC against him nearly as much.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
No, but the it feels like the committee held the
ACC against Louisville, making him an eight seed.
Speaker 3 (19:38):
If you're a Louisville fan, or if you're Pat Kelsey,
you don't like the seed, but you get to play
at home, you do, right.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
I'm actually going Saturday, and I'm hoping Aburn. I'm hoping
it's an Auburn and Louisville UCLA Tennessee. I think Creighton
is a great game. It's a great game. I mean
it tips it all off as a terrific game. I
don't know. If you saw the reaction of pack Kelsey
when he got the seed, you can turn to it
like an assisted like wait, what in eight? I think
we all did. I think we all did that too,
because I did the same thing. Wait a minute, that
can't be it is right.
Speaker 3 (20:05):
I think Louisville is criminally underseated, and if you look
at metrics, Gonzaga.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
Is criminally seed. They and and honestly, I think they're
a tough matchup for Houston and two in that in
that second second round game, I really done with you
on that. How far do you have Kentucky going? I
got him winning two games and that's probably more hope
than belief. I don't think they lose to Troy. I
mean Troy is is ranked pretty highly in points allowed.
Speaker 3 (20:30):
Evan Miakawa the great college basketball. Yes, Alex says that
Troy is the most likely fourteen seed. I know, now
that's somebody has to be, but gives them like a
twenty percent chance to winning that game Oakland did.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
I know it's in hindsight, but Oakland had a dude
in Townshend, who's gonna starts in Arizona and the way
they shot threes. If they got in a role, which
they did, they were gonna be hard. Troy just isn't
great offensively. They're ninety eighth and Ken Palm their their
their Ken Palm defensive metric doesn't match up the fact
they only give up sixty three points a game, so
that kind of misleading. They don't scare much. But to
(21:03):
our point earlier, Illinois is really good. When Illinois really
good and Xavier I think is a really tough matchup
for them if if Xavier beats meats Illinois.
Speaker 3 (21:10):
The NCAA Tournament covering from a TV perspective is hard
because it's multiple cities, right, multiple weekends. The Crown streamlined
one city one week so is the entire leg sports city.
I think the CBI is too, dude. They moved it
to I've been to a CBI game. You see Bradley
two thousand and eight.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
Man, I think that's one week in Pensacola.
Speaker 3 (21:30):
I think, well, you mobiles not in that. So are
you guys like sending the whole sports? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (21:34):
Are you guys doing like doing a special thirty minute special?
Speaker 3 (21:36):
Well, like when the Bengals are playing like a road
game in the playoffs where the anchors.
Speaker 2 (21:40):
Oh yeah, go out there like Tuesday front everything. So
you'll just have like what the morning Chila Gray and
Bob Herzog right me, Yanny Trichellis. I think we're all
gonna be there for the Crown all day, all night.
Speaker 3 (21:50):
Yeah, get their Sunday they played Tuesday, and then you're
you're posted up clear to the weekend.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
Well they're not losing to the poll. So yeah, we've
got plans that you know, right when the Crown Championship happens,
I mean, this city's gonna go buyers well parade it
should be.
Speaker 3 (22:03):
I think at least through two streets of Clifton, I
would think, hang a banner.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
Are you going to the crowd? No, oh, aren't you
the engineer for UC games. I'm not going and the
pregame post game host.
Speaker 3 (22:15):
Yeah, I'm good, I'm good. I would like to go.
My mom lives in Mesquite, Nevada, so I go see her.
But that would be nice, That would be nice. She
was disappointed when I told her I would not be
attending the Crown.
Speaker 2 (22:28):
I just want to I'm interested in these teams of
how many of their real guys show up to including
U S. Yes, thank you as all, you're the best.
Speaker 3 (22:37):
Richard Skinner Local twelve, the voice of the Bearcats and
Angles and the Bengals and the Crown.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
Dan Horse with the crowd. What is here at the
Holygues actually talking about this? He's excited about this week
in Vegas? How could you not be with you?
Speaker 3 (22:51):
Right? Get a chance to go to Vegas maybe for
a week and hang out with all the guys at
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Speaker 2 (23:03):
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Speaker 2 (00:07):
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Speaker 2 (00:26):
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Speaker 3 (00:28):
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and we can kind of count on it because I
know you're not going to be busy doing anything else.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
No. Actually, this is a good week because it came
a week after free agency start. Usually this is like
right again free agency. Yeah, thank goodness. We got the
contracts done on Tuesday and we can put all of
it behind us, except for a guard in Trey Henderson
is a guard. I mean, they they're visit, they're they're
hosting Lucas Patrick of the New Orleans Saints. Good. Uh,
(01:06):
he's a guy. He's a starting caliber NFL guard. How
about if I go with that? So is Alex Kappa apparent? Yes?
He is right? I mean the Raiders him up instantly.
Raiders seemed to think. So the Raiders made me go like,
what are we missing here? Well, I will say this,
Alex Kappa played really hurt last year and played through it.
And I think his performance unfortunately dictated that. But he
(01:29):
really did. I mean, and if he doesn't play, I'm
not sure who does? Who does play?
Speaker 3 (01:33):
Well?
Speaker 2 (01:34):
Answer and we're here to talk basketball.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
I know that.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
But why not?
Speaker 3 (01:38):
So a year ago they had interest in Mackai Becton,
he goes to Philly, changed his positions, yep, plays well.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
Why would they suddenly have no interest?
Speaker 3 (01:45):
Oh? They had interest. That was the problem. That's unfortunate.
Why not Brandon, sir, that's a good one. I I
I don't know the answer to that. Thirty three years old,
I guess. But he's still play. He's at a pretty
good level. Not at the Pro Bowl level he used
to play at. He's a four time pro bowler. I
(02:05):
I did the Paul Deaner junior athletic exercise.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
I'm sure you did too, and every time I did it,
Brandon sum literally every time. Yes, and probably at the
price they you're getting for that, That's what Tevin Jenkins,
I know everybody's talked about. I think they're afraid of
the injury. His hurt him and I don't understand, and
the bidding process probably he would have gotten out of control.
But yeah, I'm kind of with you on the Brandon shurf.
I'm not sure what I'm not seeing there. Do you
think if.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
If we're sitting here in mid July, is the Trey
Hendrickson thing still hanging over the start of at the
beginning of camp or is there a resolution between now
and then.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
I think there's a resolution. I'm not sure it's one
that Trey's gonna like. You know, look when Daniel Hunter
got thirty five million last night, Max Crosby got thirty
five million, obviously Miles Garrett got forty. I can't I
can't tell you that Trey isn't as good as Max
Crosby or Daniel Hunter. He fact, he's probably better, but
the Bengals aren't going to pay that, nor probably should
(03:00):
pay that, and so they let him go seek a trade. Yeah,
he found a couple of takers financially, but those takers
weren't willing to give up the draft picks the Bengals wanted.
I think the Bengals always knew that. Yeah, then you
getting back at the bargaining table. But where are we
at there? If you're him? You got to ask North
for thirty million dollars right, yeah? Like, I don't think either.
I don't think either Sid's wrong doing either. But I
don't know what The only resolution I come to, I
(03:20):
wrote a column on this a week or so ago,
is that he plays out the year on his current
contract and you let him go to free agency. And
that's I'm okay with that. I am too.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
I don't know if he's okay with that, fine, but
all right, man, Like this sounds really sort of old
man ish.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
You sign the damn contract. That's a fact, you know.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
I did the the goofy exercise where I put the
picture of him signing the contract on social media, and
I said, show me where you see someone with a
gun to his head, no question, show me where he
looks unhappy, where he looks like he's being held hostage,
where someone's holding his hand making him sign the contract
like he did that willingly. We talk about athletes who
bet on themselves and it pays often we're happy for him. Well,
(03:58):
Trey Hendrickson made a it kind of worked, it kind
of didn't, right, Sorry, man, So go have a great
year and then see what you can get.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
I think that's exactly what That's my standpoint on it too.
And again, do I feel for him, Sure, because he's
certainly being underpaid at the moment, But when you sign
the deal, you weren't underpaid. You felt like that was
fair market value. And this wasn't a quarter of a
century ago. This was just a year or so ago.
And remember even a year ago when he said, well,
I want more or I'll retire, and then came back,
(04:26):
I'm not gonna retire. I'm sorry. I I was half joking. No,
you're kind of in that. The problem here is they
let him go seek the trade. U huh. They did
everything right by him. Yeah, and so when he comes back,
you can't say you didn't give me the opportunity to
do this. They did, and I think the leverages back
in their court. The problem is even now the next extension,
(04:47):
where does it go? Is he willing to sign for
less than thirty I don't think the Bengals go over thirty.
Is he gonna do it for a year and do
this again and go wait a minute, I put pen
to paper and I want more money again. This is
one of the weirdest ones I've ever been a part of.
You knew Jamar was gonna get paid right, You knew
the ballpark for Tea, and it fell in that ballpark
finally with a sweet spot for both this one, to
(05:08):
your point, neither side is wrong, but I don't know
the resolution. I was then going, my guy, you're playing
this year. We got to under contract, go to free
agency next year. Yeah, I'm I'm okay with it too.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
And by the way, I can't imagine the Bengals this
year without them because of what they haven't done.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
That's just they're not for those they'd say, well, you know,
take a second round and a fifth round pick. I'm
not giving him because what the market went very quickly
at Edge Rusher and it wasn't a great market to
begin with. Now you're in the middling. Aziz ojalais seven
eight sac guy, could he help you? Sure? Opposite Trey
Hendrickson but not to replace Trey Henderson a year. I'm
(05:44):
not giving him away.
Speaker 3 (05:45):
Was the press conference the other day, the most lighthearted,
fun press conference you've ever been to.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
It was, and they did Carlos Dunlap and Gino Atkins
together and that was one of the few times you
know talks yea. But it wasn't all that fun. This
one was actually very interesting. I'll be honest with you,
I hate press conferences with a passion. I just we
all share the same quotes, we all write the same story.
It's all the same stuff. But that one was actually
(06:10):
a fun one to be a part of. I'll be
honest with you.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
I liked Jamar shooting down the idea the T Higgins
is a two. I just thought that was cool, And
I said this on our show. If I was T Higgins,
that's my moment, I'd have a hard time sharing it.
And this is his moment. And he sits next to
the guy who's getting paid more.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
He's getting paid twelve million year more. And I think
there's a lot of athletes.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
I think there's a lot of people that would have
been like, uh uh, like this this is my time,
and I get their boys their buds their tea. I
understand all that. I Over the last year, I have
gained a lot of respect for Tea Higgins for how
he has handled all of this up to and including
the press con.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
I mean when he showed up, I think he missed
the first week or two of OTA's and they're voluntary,
but I thought, Okay, I get it, man, You're not
gonna come for any of this stuff, and I can't
blame you. He shows up like after two weeks, and
I think the first question I asked him is locker
was what are you doing here? I mean, you don't
have to be here, he said, I'm working on my craft. Man.
He goes, is what I do? I missed a little
bit of time, but I'm ready to I'm thought, wow.
(07:09):
And to your point, he was really hurt, and Ben
Baby of ESPN did a great story. Ben got him
alone one day in the locker room. He was really
really hurt that people thought he was making business decisions
early in the year not to play and he wasn't.
He's legitimately hurt. Now that's a concern, right, sure, I mean,
in your history is a concern. But he was really
really hurt that he thought people thought he was quote
(07:30):
unquote hurt when he wasn't hurt. He was hurt. No,
he's handled all this as professionally as you could handle it.
Speaker 3 (07:37):
Speaking of hurt, here's a pivot. Yes, the Kentucky Wildcats,
they're hurt. They're beat up now, Yeah, I mean Lamont Butler.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
I'm hoping to get twenty minutes out of the mess
a Kentucky grad. And that's the thing. I had a
friend of mine in high school and I don't know
how he used to be able to pop his shoulder
in and out at real like that's disgusting. That became
a bar bet at all good. Yeah right, And this
is for any girl impressed by that, but I was
always I was grossed out and impressed by you can
really do that. But that's the thing with this guy's
(08:08):
shoulder is he could be good for a game or two.
He can pop it out in two minutes in a
game and he's done. And if he's done, they're just
not good enough.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
Good enough to be Troy, good enough to beat Troy, yes,
good enough to beat Illinois.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
Good enough to beat Illinois.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
I don't know if they're good enough to be That's
the thing I just said that to Rick, Like from
an ex you perspective, you give me, here's the only.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
If you give me the Illinois when it's at its best,
it's like a two seed team. Yes, you give me
Illinois that I've seen at other times losing to like Rutgers.
You're like, okay, yeah, the one the most roller coaster.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
Yes, teams, But but if I'm a Xavier fan, I'm going, Okay,
we're gonna be dogs against Illinois. Give me a neutral
floor matchup against Kentucky with the way they play already
not great defensively, worse with the Butler injury as a
Kentucky grad the first year of Mark Pope in the
middle of this historically great SEC season, this is awesome
(09:00):
to be if you love college master ridiculous night in
the night out watching the top of the SEC has
been awesome for them to get a three seed in
the NCAA tournament in that conference year one.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
All the challenges that come with that.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
Do they need to you don't want to lose Detroit, correct,
but do they need tournament success to validate what they've
done in the regular season, which for my money has
been a smashing success.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
Yeah, I think you just have to avoid tomorrow losing Detroit. Yeah,
I think every Kentucky there is that you get the
Sweet sixteen that was like, that's the pinnacle anything beyond
his complete gravy. So the middle ground then is what
happens in round two. Wouldn't be the end of the
world to lose Illinois, wouldn't be the end of the
world to lose to his Aver even those Avers eleven
seed based on you know, this team being beat up,
in the fact they've struggled in some ways defensively. No,
(09:43):
I think it's been wildly successful. And I think if
you're a Kentucky fan, as long as you avoid debt
tomorrow rather losing to Troy, I think you would say
it's been a good season.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
What's been refreshing to me watching them? And I felt
this way watching the Champions Classic. Mark Pope embraced that event. Yes,
John Caliperry played in that event.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
Was going to the.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
Electric chair watching them at the end of games. And
you know, they lost their share of games where they
didn't execute at the end, but there was imaginative sets
being run in close games.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
The last four minutes.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
We weren't getting shot clock violations and so that was
a start departure he embraced playing in the SEC tournament.
Didn't have a very long stay. He embraced playing in
the SEC tournament. And after the John Caliperry Act, which
wore very very thin, and you know it's exacerbated by
the Saint Peter's and Oakland losses, everything about Mark Pope
was so refreshing, yes, on the floor and off, relative
(10:34):
to what John Caliperry's last four or five years were
all about.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
Yeah, and you know, even despite you lose double digit games, sure,
and you know the old mantra of ten lost Tubby,
and it didn't feel like part of it was to
your point, the SEC was history good. Yeah, and every
night was a war. I mean literally two teams didn't
make the tournament, LSU and South Carolina and they were
they were bums. Yeah. In that South Carolina team, by
(10:58):
the way, did beat Arkansas at home late in the
year pretty handily. So No, it was refreshing. And I
think that's where people can say, well, you know, he
didn't have more regular season success than John Caliperry had,
and you know they they still lost double digit games,
but it was it was just different it was something
different about it and the fact you could give him
a pass. And I know you can say this about
(11:18):
Johns teams because he had all the one and done guys.
I mean to build a team from basically scratch and
do this and get a three seed, that's pretty remarkable
in this league.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
In this league, you know, the SEC is always it's
a high major, like I think casual college basketball fans.
Over the last week or so, I've come to the
realization this might have been the greatest single season any
conference has ever had.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
Yeah, I mean, you can argue, did they game the system?
I don't think they did, but you know they scheduled
some wins out of league. But having an eight to
ninety I think it's eighty eighty nine officially winning percentage
in non conference games if you can figure out that
formula to do that with some wins over a Gonzaga
and a Dude, et cetera. Once you get in the league, man,
people can argue, how does ten and eight get a
(11:58):
three seed? Because you've already done all these things out
of the league and you're just cannabalizing each other. Remember
last year. That was the thing about the Big twelve
is well, they gained the system, they found a way
to just to really well outside the league, and then
they just play each other and eight and ten teams
are gonna get in the tournament. That's fine. They'll game
the system then, to me as much as anything.
Speaker 3 (12:16):
And I just you know, I said this to a
few minutes ago, just watching Auburn and Alabama and Florida
and the teams at the upper end of that league night.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
Missouri was really fun to watch this year. Texas, I mean,
Hexas was. I don't know how they lose sixteen games.
I really don't. They're so daggone good. How they lost
sixteen games and how they blew that lead last night's
beyond the other than the coach is about to get whack,
probably Rodney Terry.
Speaker 3 (12:40):
Yeah, I think there's r answer, and hang tight, I
have a guess about you. Oh no, and the brackets, okay,
because I I think I pinned down Rick on the
sort of like bracket guy he is, Okay, did you
hand draw the entire bracket?
Speaker 2 (12:54):
I did this. I hand drew it Sunday night. Because
I hate to have internet access to me, I had
to write. I pre wrote stories on Xavier. Yeah. Uh
UK making the tournaments. Abe, so Crown preview coming up.
I got a crownpreview come out of my dude for
a local toil dot com. So all I was doing
when the brackets will come out? In case like a
(13:14):
Kentucky got picked early and I had to put the
story online quickly. I had it in front of me
who they played, who was in the region.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
Yeah, but that was Sunday night, like you for the
I know, but I literally have. I went to so
much trouble to hand draw this of like computer paper.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
You literally just drew. You don't even have a bracket.
Just listen, just just listed teams in their seats, and
so it looks like a heat Rose betting slip from
the town report might be.
Speaker 3 (13:37):
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Speaker 2 (13:58):
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Speaker 2 (14:35):
Richard Skinner is here.
Speaker 3 (14:37):
From Local twelve Local twelve dot com and they're fascinated. Bye,
I really am, because you know, Tony Pike and I
were talking about this.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
I'm don't be mad at me. I'm not as old
as you, but I still I'm not mad that you're
not as old as me, but that I mentioned it.
Speaker 3 (14:52):
Yeah, I still love the days where I would get
the Cincinnati Post the Kentucky Post. Yes, because the Post
former newspaper always had the better bracket.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
Yes they did.
Speaker 3 (15:01):
You always had the better bracket that I grew and
by the afternoon had the Times. Yes, again, the Inquirer.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
Would not have, as we were in after your newspaper back.
Speaker 3 (15:10):
So I'd cut out the bracket and I'd get two
right there by Taylor Mill Pharmacy. I pay thirty five cents,
and I'd usually take two papers. I think that's why
the paper.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
Went under, right, Yeah, that's why the paper went. I'd
take two for the price of one.
Speaker 3 (15:23):
One would be the bracket that I tracked and the
other would be the bracket that I filled out in
our family pool. So I still I can respect writing
the teams in I left.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
I did that here and when my daughters and I
did that with this one. It's very nice. But I
actually have a bracket. You just have a list of teams.
I do because I just literally the last second, I'm like,
oh crap, I gotta write this stuff down in case.
Bracket was online three minutes after I came out. But
once I did all this work and I circled some
stuff and whatever, I'm like, I'm good. This is what
I'm going to live off of the sheet. Okay, very good.
(15:56):
You strike me as the kind of guy when you
enter pools you like submit like four or five. I
only do the CBS bracket. I do three of those
on that, and then I'm in these all these crazy
games where you take like eighteens based on their seeds,
the seven player bracket stuff. I like those far far
more than do it because the bracket. I convince myself.
I go to every game and go, yeah, I can
(16:16):
see why YEO would be Texas saying I'm gonna drive
myself crazy. I think ESPN lets you do like twenty five.
I think something like that. I can't do that. I
would make myself nuts, so I admit that I do too.
I do well. Three. I do the CBS one. I
do one where.
Speaker 3 (16:28):
I I guess who I think is gonna win every game,
and then I do one where I try to fade
what I think everybody else is right. Sometimes it works,
and when it doesn't work, it fails spectacle.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
I would hope the year that San Diego State in
Florida Atlantic made the final four? Did that workout? Well?
Speaker 3 (16:45):
No, okay, not the year Virginia won it, though, because
nobody picked because the year before they lost his sixteen
sent I try. Yeah, so that that year worked out well.
All right, break this down for first of all, can
I ask me how I can't even tell by looking
at the I got chicken scrap. Yeah, everybody that's not
a one making the final four?
Speaker 2 (17:03):
I do. I've got Michigan State out of the South.
Auburn just played Wonky at the other three four. Yeah,
And you know, I could argue after the Kentucky win
when they clinched the SEC that's kind of that. And
they had Alabama and nets that was the trap game
and Alabama's really good. They lost Alabama, but they just
don't look right at the moment.
Speaker 3 (17:19):
For whatever reason, it felt to me in real time
when they won in Tuscaloosa that they peaked.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
Yeah. No, I'm kind of with you on that. And
I I still like them, and he's a good coach.
But I like I like Michigan State. I do like,
believe it or not, two dark horses from that bottom
part Old Miss and Marquette. I think they've got a
real legit shot out of that part. But that's where
Michigan State is. They're in that part of the brack
ole Miss very much lost in the shuffle in the SEC.
They are with Chris if you believe in Ken Palm metrics,
(17:46):
they fit the being top forty offense, top twenty five defense.
Every national champion since like two thousand has been that
you could win it down because that takes into account
a Yukon team that went on a run and they
were fortieth like an offense to Kemba Walker year, Yeah,
whatever it was, if you win down. They probably don't
fit the metrics, but they do fit the top forty,
top twenty five. The one chalk I do like is Florida.
(18:08):
I thought once once they got I mean, they lost
four games and one of them was early near at
Rupp actually literally in the first conference game and they
played Kentucky Toty. That was just a great game. This
seems couldn't miss for goodness sakes. I like Houston, believe
or not. I know their chalk as Google's is gonna
sound that bottom part of the bracket. Ucla fits the metrics.
(18:32):
I know they fit the metrics too, and I root
for them. I know you do. They fit the metrics.
And in the top I'm gonna go with Wisconsin in
the top the East, are you Yeah? I Duke's really
really good. I just I don't when I watch them play.
The other night I watched them again. Man, I know
Cooper Flagg didn't play, and he's gonna play. Whether he
(18:52):
plays a lot in this first game, I don't know.
We don't know yet. That just feels like a really
I mean, they're in with Arizona and Oregon and they
both fit the metrics.
Speaker 3 (19:01):
So Duke did something interesting that we used to do
a little bit more of. They played a non league
game in February. Yes, Madison square guard. So all the
year along, the ACC has not been very good. So
I've held that against Duke. I have two probably and
that's why not that Illinois is awesome. But they played
him in New York and hammered.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
And hammered him. Now was that bad Illinois day?
Speaker 3 (19:20):
Or is that the day day that wasn't the Illinois
of the very end of the regular season, But still
that was you hate to say statement, but no, that
stood out to me. And so I don't hold the
ACC against him nearly as much.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
No, but the it feels like the committee held the
ACC against Louisville, making him an eight seed.
Speaker 3 (19:38):
If you're a Louisville fan, or if you're Pat Kelsey,
you don't like the seed, but you get to play
at home, you do, right.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
I'm actually going Saturday, and I'm hoping Aburn. I'm hoping
it's an Auburn and Louisville UCLA Tennessee. I think Creighton
is a great game. It's a great game. I mean
it tips it all off as a terrific game. I
don't know. If you saw the reaction of pack Kelsey
when he got the seed, you can turn to it
like an assisted like wait, what in eight? I think
we all did. I think we all did that too,
because I did the same thing. Wait a minute, that
can't be it is right.
Speaker 3 (20:05):
I think Louisville is criminally underseated, and if you look
at metrics, Gonzaga.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
Is criminally seed. They and and honestly, I think they're
a tough matchup for Houston and two in that in
that second second round game, I really done with you
on that. How far do you have Kentucky going? I
got him winning two games and that's probably more hope
than belief. I don't think they lose to Troy. I
mean Troy is is ranked pretty highly in points allowed.
Speaker 3 (20:30):
Evan Miakawa the great college basketball. Yes, Alex says that
Troy is the most likely fourteen seed. I know, now
that's somebody has to be, but gives them like a
twenty percent chance to winning that game Oakland did.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
I know it's in hindsight, but Oakland had a dude
in Townshend, who's gonna starts in Arizona and the way
they shot threes. If they got in a role, which
they did, they were gonna be hard. Troy just isn't
great offensively. They're ninety eighth and Ken Palm their their
their Ken Palm defensive metric doesn't match up the fact
they only give up sixty three points a game, so
that kind of misleading. They don't scare much. But to
(21:03):
our point earlier, Illinois is really good. When Illinois really
good and Xavier I think is a really tough matchup
for them if if Xavier beats meats Illinois.
Speaker 3 (21:10):
The NCAA Tournament covering from a TV perspective is hard
because it's multiple cities, right, multiple weekends. The Crown streamlined
one city one week so is the entire leg sports city.
I think the CBI is too, dude. They moved it
to I've been to a CBI game. You see Bradley
two thousand and eight.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
Man, I think that's one week in Pensacola.
Speaker 3 (21:30):
I think, well, you mobiles not in that. So are
you guys like sending the whole sports? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (21:34):
Are you guys doing like doing a special thirty minute special?
Speaker 3 (21:36):
Well, like when the Bengals are playing like a road
game in the playoffs where the anchors.
Speaker 2 (21:40):
Oh yeah, go out there like Tuesday front everything. So
you'll just have like what the morning Chila Gray and
Bob Herzog right me, Yanny Trichellis. I think we're all
gonna be there for the Crown all day, all night.
Speaker 3 (21:50):
Yeah, get their Sunday they played Tuesday, and then you're
you're posted up clear to the weekend.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
Well they're not losing to the poll. So yeah, we've
got plans that you know, right when the Crown Championship happens,
I mean, this city's gonna go buyers well parade it
should be.
Speaker 3 (22:03):
I think at least through two streets of Clifton, I
would think, hang a banner.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
Are you going to the crowd? No, oh, aren't you
the engineer for UC games. I'm not going and the
pregame post game host.
Speaker 3 (22:15):
Yeah, I'm good, I'm good. I would like to go.
My mom lives in Mesquite, Nevada, so I go see her.
But that would be nice, That would be nice. She
was disappointed when I told her I would not be
attending the Crown.
Speaker 2 (22:28):
I just want to I'm interested in these teams of
how many of their real guys show up to including
U S. Yes, thank you as all, you're the best.
Speaker 3 (22:37):
Richard Skinner Local twelve, the voice of the Bearcats and
Angles and the Bengals and the Crown.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
Dan Horse with the crowd. What is here at the
Holygues actually talking about this? He's excited about this week
in Vegas? How could you not be with you?
Speaker 3 (22:51):
Right? Get a chance to go to Vegas maybe for
a week and hang out with all the guys at
Local twelve covering the Crown, Dan joins his next worth
The Holy Grail Outtown, previewing the tournament on ESPN fifteen
thirty Cincinnati.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
Sports Station Cincy three sixty, starring Tony pike Man. That's
a great question, and Austin Elmore, I'll take that with
me to make no one can ever take that away
ever Sincey three sixty today at twelve noon on ESPN
fifteen point thirty
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