November 12, 2025 • 9 mins
Rick Borering joins the show to discuss Xavier's ugly loss to Santa Clara on Monday night and previews NKU vs East Tennessee St tonight.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
And it's NKU Basketball on Fox Sports thirteen sixty. The
Norse on the road tonight against Kenny Chesney's alma mater,
East Tennessee State University, tip off at seven pm. Rick
Brooring and Jim Kelch will have the call. Rick Colorman
on NKU radio broadcasts and the proprietor of Musketeer Report
(00:20):
dot Com.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Hi, Rick, what's up?
Speaker 1 (00:23):
Mo? How's is it? Johnson City, Tennessee.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
You're all over it. It's nice. It's like the nation's
largest collection of chain restaurants. You've ever seen.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
So, I saw you had lunch of Chilis today, Yeah,
how was that?
Speaker 2 (00:42):
I'm a chili guy. It was good. I like it's
kind of like combining my favorite part of the Mexican
food visit, which is the free chips and soda with burgers.
So it's solid.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
I went to Chili's in Florence maybe a month and
a half ago, and I got a burger and the
server told me that I have pretty blue eyes. So
as far as I'm concerned, Chilis can do no wrong.
Now I will talk about your fashion Faull pod Chili's
coming up here in just a bit, but let's begin
with Xavier a very pleasant topic right now, as the
(01:16):
Musketeers were smoked by Santa Clara. I think a lot
of us expected the Musketeers this season to not be
very good. I didn't expect that. I say this not
from the standpoint of a guy looking through a lens
of a fan of another team. I don't know that
I've seen a major, a high major team perform as
(01:37):
poorly in a quote by game as whole at home
as I saw Xavier did on Monday. What was that?
Speaker 2 (01:46):
I think there are so many questions that come from
that game, even for someone like me. I mean, you
were shocked when I said in your studio that I
thought they were going to lose twenty games this year,
so I was pretty well aware of the reality that
was to come for this team. I would probably lower
my prediction now I had them around eleven wins, I'd
probably dropped that to like seven ish wins now at
(02:08):
this point with the way things are going so far.
But I mean, you have your leading score coming into
that game, elite Mesina Moore not even attempt a shot,
just so many different things where you get outscored in
the paint the way that they did in that game.
I mean, anything that you point to was pretty much
a really bad look for this team. And here's the
(02:30):
problem though, Yes it was a bad effort. Yes they
probably weren't playing hard enough or tough enough for any
of those things. But at the end of the day,
it didn't look like it was just something where oh,
they didn't show up tonight, and if you played that
game ten more times, they'd win seven of them. They
were completely outclassed in every way. And in fact, I
(02:51):
think if they played that game ten more times, Santa
Clair would at least win eight of the ten. It's
not all ten. I mean, they just looked like clearly
the better.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
Team obviously Worlds where Santa Clara won the game. I mean,
I get that Herb Syndek has been around for a
long time. Whatever is Xavier is not expected to be
very good. There's a difference between losing the game and
putting that on the floor. So you know, in this
day and age, people go, well, that's that's the best,
that's the best, that the best roster you could buy.
(03:20):
Is that the best roster they could buy?
Speaker 2 (03:24):
Yeah, I think two things can be true here. One
is that Richard Patino and his staff were an impossible
situation when they came in this spring, like into the portal.
We talked about that last week on the show, where
it's like, hey, all these big football schools with the
new rules that kicked in on July first, they were
emptying their collectives, paying a bunch of money up front,
(03:44):
and then also after July first, the school has been
going to the kick in and start paying the players
as well, so you're kind of double dipping. We saw,
you know, we're here in Kentucky spent upwards of twenty
plus million, Louisville did something similar, and you know, even
Cincinnati spent well over ten million from according to reports.
So you know, Xavier was somewhere in the neighborhood of
five and a half six million, depending on what you believe.
(04:07):
And they not only were at that level, but they
had to replace their entire roster. And it's common to replace,
you know, sixty seventy percent of your roster nowadays, but
replacing every single minute on your roster is a really
difficult task. So that's an impossible situation to walk into,
especially in last year's situation in the transfer portal. I
(04:29):
don't think they were likely to have a very good
team this year, regardless of how they did. I think
it's also fair to look at that and say, but
you know, Santa Clara Lemoyne Marist, these teams all probably
aren't spending more than five and a half six million,
and yes, they don't have to replace an entire roster.
But I think that's the concern that people are seeing.
(04:49):
It's like, Okay, we're hoping that you spent that money
with the idea of some of these guys are going
to be worthwhile players that you can maybe retain and
build something around, and so far they look like they're
not good enough to beat mid major teams. And yes,
I know there are a lot of moving parts. Yes,
I know they can improve as the season goes on,
but it's hard to imagine what these guys are going
(05:10):
to look like when they faced biggest competition here in
a few weeks.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
NK, you played a really good SEC team on Saturday
and got smoked.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
What happened? You know, shockingly, I think I was kind
of encouraged from an NKU perspective. The big issue they
faced against Tennessee was that Tennessee had six guys in
their main rotation. Six to eight or bigger, and a
couple of those guys are like in the six to
eleven range. They dominated points in the pain outscored a
NKU by like thirty.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
There.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
They were rebounding constantly on the offensive end, and I
think that's a legitimate concern for this year for MKU.
They're not a very big team. When LJ. Wells is
off the floor, I'm concerned about how they'll rebound on
the defensive end. But they don't face teams with those
types of front courts in the Horizon League, and they
got off to a good start physically on the perimeter.
(06:00):
They didn't look overmatched. I thought Donovan O'Day and Cal Robinson,
the two guys that we talked about after the opener
against Juice Claremont, who who scored very well, they still
looked the part. They were scoring early and often in
this game for MKU looked like go two pieces on
the offensive end. I think overall this team has more offensively.
The key will be how quickly can they put it
(06:20):
together defensively and can they rebound enough to beat the
better teams on their schedule.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
Tonight, NKU was taking on East Tennessee State Tony Bobbitt
hit a three point shot against East Tennessee State with
about fifteen seconds to go to beat that team in
Columbus in the NCAA Tournament in two thousand and four.
Should we expect a game that tonight is equally as dramatic?
Speaker 2 (06:44):
I hope. So I'd love to call something like that.
I think, you know, East Tennessee State's been pretty good
in recent year. Steve Forbes had them going and now
Brook Savage had a pretty good season with them last year,
and they expect to be decent again this season. They
ranked right around round one fifty in ken Pom. Right now,
NK You's sitting around two eighty six. So if NK
(07:04):
you could could pull off a dramatic wind like that
on the road, that'd be something I.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
Noticed on Instagram and took a picture of your feet
at the Chili's restaurant. You there in Tennessee wearing two
different shoes, a different shoe on your left foot than
you're right Number one? Is this how you've been walking
around Tennessee all day? And will that be the attire tonight? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (07:25):
So correction, that was back at the hotel. This issue
was I went to shoot around, went to Chili's, came
all the way back to the hotel, and then as
I was like, you know, settling into the hotel again
and taking off my shoes, I said, what happened here?
I have two different shoes on. And it's startling to
know I'm at that age mill where something like that
can happen. But I did do that all day long.
I didn't intend to do it, and no one called
(07:47):
me out on it, which is a little unsettling too,
because it's like, for people just being really nice, hopefully
they just don't even care what I'm doing. They're not
noticing me. But like what if they were just sitting
there noticing it and being like, yeah, that's that guy's
a mess, that's how he is.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
I think what you have learned is an important lesson
about people's self absorption. Years ago, I went out and
for circumstances, for reasons that are wholly unimportant, I only
shaved half my face. And as I was out, I
realize I've only shaved half my face. And I was
(08:24):
self conscious about this all night long, and then about
midway through the evening, I thought, you know, people are
wrapped up in their own stuff, that me having half
my face shaved is going to escape everybody's notice because
they don't care. And I think something similar happened with you.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
Yeah, I think that's right. I don't think anyone really
cares what's on my feet, so I think that's probably
exactly what happened. Then that's good. But overall I'm a
little concerned about my own mental state that I can
walk out of a hotel room with two different shops.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
Let me tell you something. If the biggest issue reflective
of your mental state is the fact that you have
two different shoes on, you're in really really good shake.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
Well there are probably plenty of other concerning signs, then
I guess, but that's that's one of them. In my opinion,
I understand. Rick.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
Thank you very much, Thanks Moll. You'll hear Rick tonight
on Fox Sports thirteen sixty NKU and East Tennessee State.
He will be on the call with Jim Kelch. Yes,
twenty one years ago in Columbus, Tony Bobbitt like fifteen fourteen,
fifteen seconds to go, hits A three Bearcats trailed most
of the day, beat East Tennessee State, and then two
days later got absolutely annihilated by Illinois.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
So there you go.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
Twenty one years ago. Feels like Jess yesterday in Columbus,
Hunter Green's not going to be traded. That's not me
saying and it's basically Nick Krawl saying it. We'll talk
about it next on ESPN fifteen thirty
And it's NKU Basketball on Fox Sports thirteen sixty. The
Norse on the road tonight against Kenny Chesney's alma mater,
East Tennessee State University, tip off at seven pm. Rick
Brooring and Jim Kelch will have the call. Rick Colorman
on NKU radio broadcasts and the proprietor of Musketeer Report
(00:20):
dot Com.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Hi, Rick, what's up?
Speaker 1 (00:23):
Mo? How's is it? Johnson City, Tennessee.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
You're all over it. It's nice. It's like the nation's
largest collection of chain restaurants. You've ever seen.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
So, I saw you had lunch of Chilis today, Yeah,
how was that?
Speaker 2 (00:42):
I'm a chili guy. It was good. I like it's
kind of like combining my favorite part of the Mexican
food visit, which is the free chips and soda with burgers.
So it's solid.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
I went to Chili's in Florence maybe a month and
a half ago, and I got a burger and the
server told me that I have pretty blue eyes. So
as far as I'm concerned, Chilis can do no wrong.
Now I will talk about your fashion Faull pod Chili's
coming up here in just a bit, but let's begin
with Xavier a very pleasant topic right now, as the
(01:16):
Musketeers were smoked by Santa Clara. I think a lot
of us expected the Musketeers this season to not be
very good. I didn't expect that. I say this not
from the standpoint of a guy looking through a lens
of a fan of another team. I don't know that
I've seen a major, a high major team perform as
(01:37):
poorly in a quote by game as whole at home
as I saw Xavier did on Monday. What was that?
Speaker 2 (01:46):
I think there are so many questions that come from
that game, even for someone like me. I mean, you
were shocked when I said in your studio that I
thought they were going to lose twenty games this year,
so I was pretty well aware of the reality that
was to come for this team. I would probably lower
my prediction now I had them around eleven wins, I'd
probably dropped that to like seven ish wins now at
(02:08):
this point with the way things are going so far.
But I mean, you have your leading score coming into
that game, elite Mesina Moore not even attempt a shot,
just so many different things where you get outscored in
the paint the way that they did in that game.
I mean, anything that you point to was pretty much
a really bad look for this team. And here's the
(02:30):
problem though, Yes it was a bad effort. Yes they
probably weren't playing hard enough or tough enough for any
of those things. But at the end of the day,
it didn't look like it was just something where oh,
they didn't show up tonight, and if you played that
game ten more times, they'd win seven of them. They
were completely outclassed in every way. And in fact, I
(02:51):
think if they played that game ten more times, Santa
Clair would at least win eight of the ten. It's
not all ten. I mean, they just looked like clearly
the better.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
Team obviously Worlds where Santa Clara won the game. I mean,
I get that Herb Syndek has been around for a
long time. Whatever is Xavier is not expected to be
very good. There's a difference between losing the game and
putting that on the floor. So you know, in this
day and age, people go, well, that's that's the best,
that's the best, that the best roster you could buy.
(03:20):
Is that the best roster they could buy?
Speaker 2 (03:24):
Yeah, I think two things can be true here. One
is that Richard Patino and his staff were an impossible
situation when they came in this spring, like into the portal.
We talked about that last week on the show, where
it's like, hey, all these big football schools with the
new rules that kicked in on July first, they were
emptying their collectives, paying a bunch of money up front,
(03:44):
and then also after July first, the school has been
going to the kick in and start paying the players
as well, so you're kind of double dipping. We saw,
you know, we're here in Kentucky spent upwards of twenty
plus million, Louisville did something similar, and you know, even
Cincinnati spent well over ten million from according to reports.
So you know, Xavier was somewhere in the neighborhood of
five and a half six million, depending on what you believe.
(04:07):
And they not only were at that level, but they
had to replace their entire roster. And it's common to replace,
you know, sixty seventy percent of your roster nowadays, but
replacing every single minute on your roster is a really
difficult task. So that's an impossible situation to walk into,
especially in last year's situation in the transfer portal. I
(04:29):
don't think they were likely to have a very good
team this year, regardless of how they did. I think
it's also fair to look at that and say, but
you know, Santa Clara Lemoyne Marist, these teams all probably
aren't spending more than five and a half six million,
and yes, they don't have to replace an entire roster.
But I think that's the concern that people are seeing.
(04:49):
It's like, Okay, we're hoping that you spent that money
with the idea of some of these guys are going
to be worthwhile players that you can maybe retain and
build something around, and so far they look like they're
not good enough to beat mid major teams. And yes,
I know there are a lot of moving parts. Yes,
I know they can improve as the season goes on,
but it's hard to imagine what these guys are going
(05:10):
to look like when they faced biggest competition here in
a few weeks.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
NK, you played a really good SEC team on Saturday
and got smoked.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
What happened? You know, shockingly, I think I was kind
of encouraged from an NKU perspective. The big issue they
faced against Tennessee was that Tennessee had six guys in
their main rotation. Six to eight or bigger, and a
couple of those guys are like in the six to
eleven range. They dominated points in the pain outscored a
NKU by like thirty.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
There.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
They were rebounding constantly on the offensive end, and I
think that's a legitimate concern for this year for MKU.
They're not a very big team. When LJ. Wells is
off the floor, I'm concerned about how they'll rebound on
the defensive end. But they don't face teams with those
types of front courts in the Horizon League, and they
got off to a good start physically on the perimeter.
(06:00):
They didn't look overmatched. I thought Donovan O'Day and Cal Robinson,
the two guys that we talked about after the opener
against Juice Claremont, who who scored very well, they still
looked the part. They were scoring early and often in
this game for MKU looked like go two pieces on
the offensive end. I think overall this team has more offensively.
The key will be how quickly can they put it
(06:20):
together defensively and can they rebound enough to beat the
better teams on their schedule.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
Tonight, NKU was taking on East Tennessee State Tony Bobbitt
hit a three point shot against East Tennessee State with
about fifteen seconds to go to beat that team in
Columbus in the NCAA Tournament in two thousand and four.
Should we expect a game that tonight is equally as dramatic?
Speaker 2 (06:44):
I hope. So I'd love to call something like that.
I think, you know, East Tennessee State's been pretty good
in recent year. Steve Forbes had them going and now
Brook Savage had a pretty good season with them last year,
and they expect to be decent again this season. They
ranked right around round one fifty in ken Pom. Right now,
NK You's sitting around two eighty six. So if NK
(07:04):
you could could pull off a dramatic wind like that
on the road, that'd be something I.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
Noticed on Instagram and took a picture of your feet
at the Chili's restaurant. You there in Tennessee wearing two
different shoes, a different shoe on your left foot than
you're right Number one? Is this how you've been walking
around Tennessee all day? And will that be the attire tonight? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (07:25):
So correction, that was back at the hotel. This issue
was I went to shoot around, went to Chili's, came
all the way back to the hotel, and then as
I was like, you know, settling into the hotel again
and taking off my shoes, I said, what happened here?
I have two different shoes on. And it's startling to
know I'm at that age mill where something like that
can happen. But I did do that all day long.
I didn't intend to do it, and no one called
(07:47):
me out on it, which is a little unsettling too,
because it's like, for people just being really nice, hopefully
they just don't even care what I'm doing. They're not
noticing me. But like what if they were just sitting
there noticing it and being like, yeah, that's that guy's
a mess, that's how he is.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
I think what you have learned is an important lesson
about people's self absorption. Years ago, I went out and
for circumstances, for reasons that are wholly unimportant, I only
shaved half my face. And as I was out, I
realize I've only shaved half my face. And I was
(08:24):
self conscious about this all night long, and then about
midway through the evening, I thought, you know, people are
wrapped up in their own stuff, that me having half
my face shaved is going to escape everybody's notice because
they don't care. And I think something similar happened with you.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
Yeah, I think that's right. I don't think anyone really
cares what's on my feet, so I think that's probably
exactly what happened. Then that's good. But overall I'm a
little concerned about my own mental state that I can
walk out of a hotel room with two different shops.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
Let me tell you something. If the biggest issue reflective
of your mental state is the fact that you have
two different shoes on, you're in really really good shake.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
Well there are probably plenty of other concerning signs, then
I guess, but that's that's one of them. In my opinion,
I understand. Rick.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
Thank you very much, Thanks Moll. You'll hear Rick tonight
on Fox Sports thirteen sixty NKU and East Tennessee State.
He will be on the call with Jim Kelch. Yes,
twenty one years ago in Columbus, Tony Bobbitt like fifteen fourteen,
fifteen seconds to go, hits A three Bearcats trailed most
of the day, beat East Tennessee State, and then two
days later got absolutely annihilated by Illinois.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
So there you go.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
Twenty one years ago. Feels like Jess yesterday in Columbus,
Hunter Green's not going to be traded. That's not me
saying and it's basically Nick Krawl saying it. We'll talk
about it next on ESPN fifteen thirty
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