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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Tony Pike's Friday Football Frenzy show, brought to
you in part five fellow Windows and door making life
writer Pellan now Hey. Later Skyline Shilly Feeling Good. It's
Skyline time OnCore Technologies. Visit OnCore dot Tech. Have Sonoil,
healing champions on and off the field, game Day, men's health,
(00:23):
start your best life today, and by the Creation Museum
it's more than a museum. Visit Creation Museum dot org today.
On the ESPN fifteen thirty, the official home of the
Cincinnati Bengals.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
Welcome back our number three underway as you just heard
right there, thanks to our friends at Penn Station. Here
on the Friday Football Frenzy on ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati
Sports Station. We have a few moments here to check
in with our guy from the University of Cincinnati and Novacare.
It is Bob Manjean joining us to kickoff the third
and final hour here today. Bob, what's going on?
Speaker 3 (01:01):
Just getting ready to go on the road again, Tony.
We play down in Greenville, South Carolina against Clenson on
Sunday at three o'clock. Everybody wants to watch RN ESPN.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
And that's a neutral site game, neutral site site, yep, yep.
Just wanted to clear that up. A lot of these
neutral site games not going in the favor of the
Bearcats lately.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
Well again, and I like the neutral site games like
in Atlanta, Georgia, where you're playing Georgia, that's a really
neutral site.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
Here's what I want to do today, Bob. We spent
a lot of time talking about injuries at the highest
level of athletics, and what I wanted to do today,
Let's bring it back to everyday life. Because whether you
are listening to this show right now or you're an
athlete at the very highest level of sports, I think
there's one thing everyone has in common, and it's back injuries.
The dreaded back injury. Am I right to assume when
(01:55):
you talk about back injuries, are lower back injuries more
prevalent than maybe the upper back?
Speaker 3 (02:01):
Correct? I think if you look at at you know,
the literature of whatever population you're dealing with, from athletes
to non athletes, recreational athletes, workmen. Comp low back paid
accounts for a lot of injuries in this country and
really absorbs a lot of dollars within this country, and
(02:22):
back injuries oftentimes are preventable. And again we've even had
some athletes to have had to undergo surgery for back
injuries at the university because of the amount of workload
that we're done nowadays, whether it be through the weight room,
whether it be on the field, And it's no different
(02:43):
than you know, having a job and the amount of
load that people carry on their back day in and
day out, you know, in certain occupations. So I think,
you know, the back accounts for quite a bit of
injury risk and mitigating that is critical, and a lot
of people just don't take that opportunity to try to
(03:04):
avoid back injury, you know, and then once it occurs,
it's kind of like that, you know, that chronic sprained
ankle that keeps coming back to haunt you at the
wrong time. You know, back problems come back to hunt
you at the wrong time all the time.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
I want to get into how you can mitigate it
or how you can prevent them, but first let's go
into what goes into it, because again I can see
watching in a basketball game or watching the NFL on Sunday,
how someone might hurt their back. There's also times for
me personally, you pick something up the wrong way and
the next thing you know, you're stuck and you can
barely walk around, or it can just happen so quickly.
What is going into the average lower back injury that
(03:41):
people are dealing with.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
Well, I think a lot of it is muscular. You know,
you've got little joints, just like you at a knee joint.
You got your little joints in your back, your spinal fussets,
and if you put them in the wrong position and
you don't make them happy, they will cause you to
go in the muscle spasm. If you lean the wrong
way to pick up something off the floor, if you
(04:05):
run too many miles, or if you're running more downhill
than uphill, if you're you know, lifting weights the wrong
We see so many back injuries in the you know
above twenty five adult category from weightlifting and people trying
to go to the gym stay in shape that have
no idea how to really property lift. And so you've
(04:27):
really got to you know, you've got to be careful
you're in the in the uh you know, in the gym,
you've got to take more time to stretch. And in
this country, I find it in three areas. I'm gonna
I'm going to categorize these back problems. In most of
them are must have skeletal back problems because people are
not in shape, they have poor posture, they don't stretch enough,
(04:50):
and they don't work their core enough. They're abdominal muscles,
their back extensors, they're obliques, they're hip abductors. You need
to have a good stylid foundation of exercises if you
want to keep from having chronic back problems. That's where
you know, you've got to get in and get evaluated
(05:11):
by physical therapists who can look at your posture, they
can look at your strength, they can look at your
post or your chain and then design something for you.
You know, your lower abdominal is critical. That that muscle
that holds your pelvis in the right position so you
don't look like your your you know, your guts stick
it out so that you know, again it's post here
(05:33):
your length and here your strengthening and really work that
that mobility. So so again, I think you need to
see somebody who can get you on the right track.
And you know you don't always need to go in
and see your dock right away. You know you can
go get into a fiscal therapist who can get you
into a good program and see what happens. And plus
(05:55):
if they evaluate you, you may have something different and
they may be able to say, hey, you do need
to go see you know, the orthopedic history, your family doc.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
So it's one thing if you're a college athlete or
parathlete and you have all of these things at your disposal.
And I think when you talk about, you know, having
a chance to mitigate the risk you talk about, you
mentioned the word core, and I can't help but think
how many injuries come back to a week in core.
So for those that are not at the college or
(06:24):
professional sports level, there are still ways to prevent these
types of injuries. What type of stuff are you doing
with your core that someone can do at home to
help prevent these types of injuries?
Speaker 3 (06:35):
Right? There are some really simple exercises you can do
for your lower abdominals with you know, posterotebrit crunches, bridges,
work your back extensors, work in your hip ab doctors
working rotational set ups for euro leagues. All of those
really control your core. I also liked a lot of
(06:56):
exercises what we call quadriped for being on all four
to where you're doing like something we call the bird
dog and bandon bird dog to try to get good glue,
try to get good paraspinal strengthening, and that supports your
pelvis generally. We you know, one muscle that people really
(07:17):
don't focus on enough is they're hip flexers. Because especially
if you sit all day, if you're an administrative person,
you're an executive, your anter, your muscle, your ilioso as
hip flexer tends to be super tight and every time
you stand up the walk, it's pulling your pelvis in
the wrong position. And too many people don't want to stretch,
(07:39):
you know. They don't want to take that time to
use a foam roller, they don't want to take the
time to use a stretch band. You know, they want
to get up and go run. You know, I want
to go home. I don't want an early stretch. You
just want to throw some shoes on and go for
a five mile jog. Well, you're really doing a lot
of detriment to your body just doing that. Or I
want to just don't stretch when I'm going to go
play wreck basketball with you guys, or you know, old
(08:01):
girls on Thursday nights and they don't take the time
to stretch and the next thing you know, your tear
your achilles tendon. So mitigating injuries through mobility, through stretching programs,
through core programs is really valuable to save your body.
As you're starting to get older, you hit peak flexibility
generally between somewhere between fifteen and twenty years old. After that,
(08:25):
you're just getting tight. And if you don't start stretching
in those late teams, which is what we do in college.
I mean, our guys, Coach Rayfeld got them doing mobility
every day before practice, every day after practice. We're preaching
stretching in the trading room before practice. So I mean
(08:46):
we're really dealing with trying to get the mobility in
and people don't stretch enough. If I sit at the
desk all day, I'm trying to stretch my it bands,
I'm trying to stretch my hip flexus probably every two hours.
And how many people take the time to really stretch
every two hours, you know? So, and that's that's a
(09:08):
hidden art. People just don't want to take the time
to do the simple things. They think they have to
try the big thing. You know, I'm going to go
get a back manipulator. I'm going to go get you know,
dry needle, or I'm going to try to go do this. Hey,
how about stretch? How about take care of your body?
And that's what cracks me up about the society today
(09:28):
is everybody wants a quick fix or or everybody wants
you to do it for them, and it's like, no,
my job is to teach you how to control your posture,
how to improve your core, how to get onto a
good stretching program, take care of your body, and guess what,
your body will take care of you. Otherwise by the
time you're in your forties year in some people as
(09:50):
early as the thirties, and you know you got problems.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
Let me wrap this with this. So for those that
didn't do a good enough job mitigating in it and
now here you are with lower back injury and it's
just debilitating on a lot of levels. What are some
things you can do to either alleviate some of that
pain or get yourself back as quick as possible to
normal once the back injury occurs. What are you asking
(10:14):
or advising folks to do well.
Speaker 3 (10:17):
I'm advising folks to make sure that their attack plan
or they're treatment plan is the right plan. So You
really need to get somebody to take a look at
your posture, look at your muscle length, look at your strength,
look at your core strength, and then design the program.
From there. You can do some basic routine stuff. Everybody
(10:38):
today goes online and says, here's the quick fix the
back problems. You know, stretch your hamstrings or stretch your
quads or use this machine and it takes away your
back pain. No, it's it's more than that. It's you've
got to increase your ancherior muscle length, increase your lower
(10:58):
abdominal strength. You've got to improve your hamstring and it
band mobility, and you've got to have some good strength
in your post through your chain. American Society's posting your
chain is not very strong. And posture is one of
the things that I can. I walk through airports and
Marshal thinks some kind of goofy because I look at
(11:20):
people's posture and that one's got a bad back, that
one's got a bad knee, that one's got a bad back,
because you can see by the way they're compensating and
they're walking that you know they've got muscles sotlations, but
they won't take the time to do the exercise or
the other things to, you know, to correct it and
(11:42):
then mitigate it. You know, I mean, you know I've
got a bad you know my history of boat promms.
You know, I'm not afraid to say it. I got
a three level backfusion. But I'm still working because I
mitigate it every day with a strange program and a
stretching program. And that's how I keep up with these
you us, you.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
Keep up with them well, Bob man Jean. The University
of Cincinnati and novacare getting ready to head to a
neutral site game this weekend for the Bearcats as they
take on Clemson on Sunday. Bob, as always, thank you
for your time. Have a great weekend, and have a
great holiday next week as well.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
Thank you, Tony, you too. You guys, have a good holiday,
and I'll talk to you after the holiday and have
fun with the kids.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
There we go. That is Bob man Jean. Thank you
so much, Bob. Whether you're traveling to the game, walking
to your seats, partaking in postgame celebration, your body can
take a beating from all the activity on game day,
but in Novacare rehabilitation, they understand how important it is
for fans to be there to root for their team
through the power physical there. But you don't need to
let X pains or injury keep you from the game,
So find a center near you at novacare dot com.
(12:45):
Today we're just getting started in the hour number three
our weekly picks. Next on the Friday Football Friends on
ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station Rocky.
Speaker 4 (12:54):
Year for rich Or and Phillips Jewelers, Cincinnati's premier family
owned jeweler. Guys, when it comes time to pop the
big question, make sure you go to Richter and Phillips.
They have the best selection of engagement rings and the
best prices. Check them out at Richter Phillips dot com.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
At tennst
This is Tony Pike's Friday Football Frenzy show, brought to
you in part five fellow Windows and door making life
writer Pellan now Hey. Later Skyline Shilly Feeling Good. It's
Skyline time OnCore Technologies. Visit OnCore dot Tech. Have Sonoil,
healing champions on and off the field, game Day, men's health,
(00:23):
start your best life today, and by the Creation Museum
it's more than a museum. Visit Creation Museum dot org today.
On the ESPN fifteen thirty, the official home of the
Cincinnati Bengals.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
Welcome back our number three underway as you just heard
right there, thanks to our friends at Penn Station. Here
on the Friday Football Frenzy on ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati
Sports Station. We have a few moments here to check
in with our guy from the University of Cincinnati and Novacare.
It is Bob Manjean joining us to kickoff the third
and final hour here today. Bob, what's going on?
Speaker 3 (01:01):
Just getting ready to go on the road again, Tony.
We play down in Greenville, South Carolina against Clenson on
Sunday at three o'clock. Everybody wants to watch RN ESPN.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
And that's a neutral site game, neutral site site, yep, yep.
Just wanted to clear that up. A lot of these
neutral site games not going in the favor of the
Bearcats lately.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
Well again, and I like the neutral site games like
in Atlanta, Georgia, where you're playing Georgia, that's a really
neutral site.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
Here's what I want to do today, Bob. We spent
a lot of time talking about injuries at the highest
level of athletics, and what I wanted to do today,
Let's bring it back to everyday life. Because whether you
are listening to this show right now or you're an
athlete at the very highest level of sports, I think
there's one thing everyone has in common, and it's back injuries.
The dreaded back injury. Am I right to assume when
(01:55):
you talk about back injuries, are lower back injuries more
prevalent than maybe the upper back?
Speaker 3 (02:01):
Correct? I think if you look at at you know,
the literature of whatever population you're dealing with, from athletes
to non athletes, recreational athletes, workmen. Comp low back paid
accounts for a lot of injuries in this country and
really absorbs a lot of dollars within this country, and
(02:22):
back injuries oftentimes are preventable. And again we've even had
some athletes to have had to undergo surgery for back
injuries at the university because of the amount of workload
that we're done nowadays, whether it be through the weight room,
whether it be on the field, And it's no different
(02:43):
than you know, having a job and the amount of
load that people carry on their back day in and
day out, you know, in certain occupations. So I think,
you know, the back accounts for quite a bit of
injury risk and mitigating that is critical, and a lot
of people just don't take that opportunity to try to
(03:04):
avoid back injury, you know, and then once it occurs,
it's kind of like that, you know, that chronic sprained
ankle that keeps coming back to haunt you at the
wrong time. You know, back problems come back to hunt
you at the wrong time all the time.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
I want to get into how you can mitigate it
or how you can prevent them, but first let's go
into what goes into it, because again I can see
watching in a basketball game or watching the NFL on Sunday,
how someone might hurt their back. There's also times for
me personally, you pick something up the wrong way and
the next thing you know, you're stuck and you can
barely walk around, or it can just happen so quickly.
What is going into the average lower back injury that
(03:41):
people are dealing with.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
Well, I think a lot of it is muscular. You know,
you've got little joints, just like you at a knee joint.
You got your little joints in your back, your spinal fussets,
and if you put them in the wrong position and
you don't make them happy, they will cause you to
go in the muscle spasm. If you lean the wrong
way to pick up something off the floor, if you
(04:05):
run too many miles, or if you're running more downhill
than uphill, if you're you know, lifting weights the wrong
We see so many back injuries in the you know
above twenty five adult category from weightlifting and people trying
to go to the gym stay in shape that have
no idea how to really property lift. And so you've
(04:27):
really got to you know, you've got to be careful
you're in the in the uh you know, in the gym,
you've got to take more time to stretch. And in
this country, I find it in three areas. I'm gonna
I'm going to categorize these back problems. In most of
them are must have skeletal back problems because people are
not in shape, they have poor posture, they don't stretch enough,
(04:50):
and they don't work their core enough. They're abdominal muscles,
their back extensors, they're obliques, they're hip abductors. You need
to have a good stylid foundation of exercises if you
want to keep from having chronic back problems. That's where
you know, you've got to get in and get evaluated
(05:11):
by physical therapists who can look at your posture, they
can look at your strength, they can look at your
post or your chain and then design something for you.
You know, your lower abdominal is critical. That that muscle
that holds your pelvis in the right position so you
don't look like your your you know, your guts stick
it out so that you know, again it's post here
(05:33):
your length and here your strengthening and really work that
that mobility. So so again, I think you need to
see somebody who can get you on the right track.
And you know you don't always need to go in
and see your dock right away. You know you can
go get into a fiscal therapist who can get you
into a good program and see what happens. And plus
(05:55):
if they evaluate you, you may have something different and
they may be able to say, hey, you do need
to go see you know, the orthopedic history, your family doc.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
So it's one thing if you're a college athlete or
parathlete and you have all of these things at your disposal.
And I think when you talk about, you know, having
a chance to mitigate the risk you talk about, you
mentioned the word core, and I can't help but think
how many injuries come back to a week in core.
So for those that are not at the college or
(06:24):
professional sports level, there are still ways to prevent these
types of injuries. What type of stuff are you doing
with your core that someone can do at home to
help prevent these types of injuries?
Speaker 3 (06:35):
Right? There are some really simple exercises you can do
for your lower abdominals with you know, posterotebrit crunches, bridges,
work your back extensors, work in your hip ab doctors
working rotational set ups for euro leagues. All of those
really control your core. I also liked a lot of
(06:56):
exercises what we call quadriped for being on all four
to where you're doing like something we call the bird
dog and bandon bird dog to try to get good glue,
try to get good paraspinal strengthening, and that supports your
pelvis generally. We you know, one muscle that people really
(07:17):
don't focus on enough is they're hip flexers. Because especially
if you sit all day, if you're an administrative person,
you're an executive, your anter, your muscle, your ilioso as
hip flexer tends to be super tight and every time
you stand up the walk, it's pulling your pelvis in
the wrong position. And too many people don't want to stretch,
(07:39):
you know. They don't want to take that time to
use a foam roller, they don't want to take the
time to use a stretch band. You know, they want
to get up and go run. You know, I want
to go home. I don't want an early stretch. You
just want to throw some shoes on and go for
a five mile jog. Well, you're really doing a lot
of detriment to your body just doing that. Or I
want to just don't stretch when I'm going to go
play wreck basketball with you guys, or you know, old
(08:01):
girls on Thursday nights and they don't take the time
to stretch and the next thing you know, your tear
your achilles tendon. So mitigating injuries through mobility, through stretching programs,
through core programs is really valuable to save your body.
As you're starting to get older, you hit peak flexibility
generally between somewhere between fifteen and twenty years old. After that,
(08:25):
you're just getting tight. And if you don't start stretching
in those late teams, which is what we do in college.
I mean, our guys, Coach Rayfeld got them doing mobility
every day before practice, every day after practice. We're preaching
stretching in the trading room before practice. So I mean
(08:46):
we're really dealing with trying to get the mobility in
and people don't stretch enough. If I sit at the
desk all day, I'm trying to stretch my it bands,
I'm trying to stretch my hip flexus probably every two hours.
And how many people take the time to really stretch
every two hours, you know? So, and that's that's a
(09:08):
hidden art. People just don't want to take the time
to do the simple things. They think they have to
try the big thing. You know, I'm going to go
get a back manipulator. I'm going to go get you know,
dry needle, or I'm going to try to go do this. Hey,
how about stretch? How about take care of your body?
And that's what cracks me up about the society today
(09:28):
is everybody wants a quick fix or or everybody wants
you to do it for them, and it's like, no,
my job is to teach you how to control your posture,
how to improve your core, how to get onto a
good stretching program, take care of your body, and guess what,
your body will take care of you. Otherwise by the
time you're in your forties year in some people as
(09:50):
early as the thirties, and you know you got problems.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
Let me wrap this with this. So for those that
didn't do a good enough job mitigating in it and
now here you are with lower back injury and it's
just debilitating on a lot of levels. What are some
things you can do to either alleviate some of that
pain or get yourself back as quick as possible to
normal once the back injury occurs. What are you asking
(10:14):
or advising folks to do well.
Speaker 3 (10:17):
I'm advising folks to make sure that their attack plan
or they're treatment plan is the right plan. So You
really need to get somebody to take a look at
your posture, look at your muscle length, look at your strength,
look at your core strength, and then design the program.
From there. You can do some basic routine stuff. Everybody
(10:38):
today goes online and says, here's the quick fix the
back problems. You know, stretch your hamstrings or stretch your
quads or use this machine and it takes away your
back pain. No, it's it's more than that. It's you've
got to increase your ancherior muscle length, increase your lower
(10:58):
abdominal strength. You've got to improve your hamstring and it
band mobility, and you've got to have some good strength
in your post through your chain. American Society's posting your
chain is not very strong. And posture is one of
the things that I can. I walk through airports and
Marshal thinks some kind of goofy because I look at
(11:20):
people's posture and that one's got a bad back, that
one's got a bad knee, that one's got a bad back,
because you can see by the way they're compensating and
they're walking that you know they've got muscles sotlations, but
they won't take the time to do the exercise or
the other things to, you know, to correct it and
(11:42):
then mitigate it. You know, I mean, you know I've
got a bad you know my history of boat promms.
You know, I'm not afraid to say it. I got
a three level backfusion. But I'm still working because I
mitigate it every day with a strange program and a
stretching program. And that's how I keep up with these
you us, you.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
Keep up with them well, Bob man Jean. The University
of Cincinnati and novacare getting ready to head to a
neutral site game this weekend for the Bearcats as they
take on Clemson on Sunday. Bob, as always, thank you
for your time. Have a great weekend, and have a
great holiday next week as well.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
Thank you, Tony, you too. You guys, have a good holiday,
and I'll talk to you after the holiday and have
fun with the kids.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
There we go. That is Bob man Jean. Thank you
so much, Bob. Whether you're traveling to the game, walking
to your seats, partaking in postgame celebration, your body can
take a beating from all the activity on game day,
but in Novacare rehabilitation, they understand how important it is
for fans to be there to root for their team
through the power physical there. But you don't need to
let X pains or injury keep you from the game,
So find a center near you at novacare dot com.
(12:45):
Today we're just getting started in the hour number three
our weekly picks. Next on the Friday Football Friends on
ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station Rocky.
Speaker 4 (12:54):
Year for rich Or and Phillips Jewelers, Cincinnati's premier family
owned jeweler. Guys, when it comes time to pop the
big question, make sure you go to Richter and Phillips.
They have the best selection of engagement rings and the
best prices. Check them out at Richter Phillips dot com.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
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