November 21, 2025 • 15 mins
Charlie joins as he does every Friday to discuss whether Joe Burrow will play Sunday, the defense, Trey Hendrickson, and more.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
This is Tony Pike's Friday Football Frenzy Show, brought to
you in part five fellow Windows and door making life
writer pelenaw Hey. Later Skyline Hilly Dealing Good. It's Skyline time,
Encore Technologies, visit OnCore dot Tech, Hudson Oil, Healing Champions,
on and off the Field, Game Day, Man's Health, Start
(00:25):
your best life today, and by the Creation Museum It's
more than a museum. Visit Creation Museum dot Org today
on ESPN fifteen thirty, the official home of the Cincinnati Bengals.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
All right, here we go, Hour number two thanks to
Cincy Shirts the Friday Football Friends. He let's get right
into it Hour two Friday. Our good friend Charlie Goldsmith's
anybody to join us right now?
Speaker 3 (00:51):
Charlie?
Speaker 2 (00:52):
What's up?
Speaker 3 (00:53):
Tony? How you doing? Charlie?
Speaker 2 (00:55):
I'm great. Look, I know we got to dive into
the Joe Burrow and we will before that. Can you
find a path the UCBD moival tonight, Charlie.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
It's a team that's much improved from the perimeter, especially
when you look at kind of how things got clogged
for them offensively in previous years. Cantinet be a night
where you see can win with the style. We haven't
seen a ton from them in a while. It's kind
of the perimeter attack, you know, Baba making some freeze
Knakrigaez come off the bench and make some threes day
day shot the ball. Well, this year they've got shooters.
(01:26):
Let's see if they can make some shots in an
arena that's terrible to shoot in.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
All right, Charlie, uh the up to the date updates
on Joe Burrow. He's officially listed as questionable. What do
we know up to this point and what do you
think happens on Sunday.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
We just talked to Zach for a while. Here's my
read on the situation. You don't get to this point
unless Burrow feels like he can play, feel healthy enough
to play. And I think there's enough optimism that is,
from a pure health and physical standpoint, Burrow's pretty much there.
I feel pretty strongly about that now talking to Zach,
(02:07):
you know they're gonna take the time they have. They're
comfortable taking the time they have. Burrow's listed as questionable.
What Zach talked a lot about is this being his
call and he's got to do what's best for the program.
Do what's best for Burrow and make the right decision.
And there's a lot of factor in there, like how
does Burrow read a defense? How does Burrow respond to
(02:27):
not having any you know, real live speed reps until just,
you know, a few days ago. How does you know
the the can you call sixty passes? Where Burrow's running
all over the field? Like what guardrails do you have
to set up? From a play caller perspectives, I really
think Zach's just taken in all the information. He wants
to go back through how it all went this weekend
(02:49):
and he'll make a call.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
Tomorrow outside of Joe Burrow and what we know or
wait to know around Joe Burrow. We know Jamar Chase
is not going to be playing on Sunday. How do
they make up for the production they'll lose from Jamar Chase.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
We've seen before when Chase is out just taking step
into the one a Spotlight needs as we all know
more than good enough to do that. The most interesting
wrinkles for me there are two. One Andre Josavash's role
really over the last two years has been and he
even said this line up where Jamar isn't you know
moved Jamar out wire to the slot, you know, move
(03:25):
Jamar out wide, Yoshi fields mcgaps. What routes do they
think are Andre's best routes When you're just coming up
with the game plan for maybe you know, five six
plays where you're featuring Joseavash, what are those routes? I
wonder if we see more plays up the scene, more
back shoulder throws to Andre, and then overall, what style
of game do you want this to be? Maybe without
(03:46):
Jamar and either way slacker or burrow or quarterback. You
don't want throwing it fifty times? Do you try to
take the air out out of the game? Kind of play?
The style that New England played in Cincinnati last year
minimized Deessians establish the run? How just more of a patient,
conservative overall approach. So that approach would lead to more
(04:08):
of a role for Chase Brown, maybe using more tight
ends if you're trying to establish the run, more play action.
I look at the style of play and then ways
to use Yoshi as different wrinkles they could come up
with on the deal.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
Well, let's stick one more on the offensive side of
the ball. The running game has opened up and a
lot of people think there's something to the way Joe
Flacko has played his ability to go under center. If
Joe Burrow is playing, we've seen an uneasiness of going
under center. Can this team still run the ball effectively
with the advancements they've made on the offensive line if
they are majority shotgun?
Speaker 3 (04:44):
Yes, you know my honest opinion, I think the understand
the storylines the most overrated conversation around the Bengals. They've
proven over the years that if there's a match of
what they feel like, they have a true specific advantage.
That's all make under center pack, which is a big
part of what they do now. All right, There's one
thing they did with Flacco specifically in both games against
(05:05):
the Steelers, they had him do under center straight dropbacks.
They stopped teaching that twenty years ago. Burrow was not
going to do that. But sure, that takes five plays
out of your call sheet that you had with Flacco.
But of course you have more things you can do
with Burrow. I just think the whole under center thing
is so situational and it's not a solve a save,
(05:27):
a catch all answer for them to have a better
run game or a more efficient.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
Offense on the defensive side of the ball. Charlie. I
know the final score said thirty four last week, but
two defensive touchdowns, and I thought the defense, at least
in the first half was able to get the ball
back to the offense for more opportunities. Did you see
anything against the Steelers that leads you to believe they're
trending in the right direction on the defensive side of
the ball.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
Overall, though, I think Pittsburgh's offense shut itself in the
foot a lot and Aaron Rodgers tentan to look like
how you would fee r a worse piece scenario for
Joe Flack all right when he got here would have gone.
You know, a quarterback who can't move and gets rid
of the ball right away without any real sense of
where it's going. That's a lot us off from the
Steelers offense in the first half with Aaron Rodgers. Of course,
Blacko hadn't been that in Cincinnattie, But that's just my
(06:13):
way to criticize how beatable that Steelers offense was. An
underrated storyline of the week is now with cam Taylor
britt out. So what I was told yesterday, it sounds
like Jalen Davis is going to get the start in
the slot coming off the practice squad. He's not a
perfect player, but he has he knows the defense. He
(06:33):
is a better tackler than what they've had. He has
good awareness and good instincts. He can get beaten coverage.
He's a step slower than maybe what you want from
your slock corner, but that is one personnel change we'll
see on defense.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
Uh, Dejon Anthony, any update on if he's going to
be able to go, and how do you view obviously
Cam Taylor Britt do you view any changes coming to
the safety room, which I think could use some help
as well.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
Dajon's questionable. I don't see changes coming to the safety
room right now because of what we've seen from Tyson
Anderson over the years in training camp and unlimited opportunities
on defense, what we've seen from Dejon Anthony when he
whenever he's been on the field, and you know, you
love PJ. Jeweles on special teams, but this guy was
a linebacker in college. He's not coming in free safety
(07:19):
and saving your offense. They did such a poor job
of misevaluating their safety depth that even though it is
clearly time for a change of free safety. They just
don't have that option. I don't think Dejong's that option either,
whenever he's healthy, unless it's December and you're truly just
in a developmental play the kid mindset, as much as
we've all seen it, and we've all seen it, as
(07:40):
crazy as this is going to sound, he knows Stone's
still their best free safety on the roster.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
Trey Hendrickson is out. We have seen now in back
to back games, right on the Monday press conference where
Zach Taylor has essentially said Trey Hendrickson is doubtful. Normally,
I feel like Zach holds the cards a little closer
to the chest to wait and see how the week goes.
How do you view the Trey Hendrickson situation? What's unfolding?
(08:05):
And do you think we've seen the last of Trey
Hendrickson this year.
Speaker 3 (08:10):
I don't have a good feeling about this one. I
truly don't know. I don't know that they know. There
hasn't been any concrete answers from them. If they had
concrete answers, they probably have put them on IR which
hasn't come. I haven't seen trade trade around as much.
Something I've been thinking about is like one of his
closest friends on the team was Logan, and of course
that Logan Wilson trade should happen, But like all of
(08:31):
Trey's friends are gone, and it's a bad team and
how is this all from his perspective right now? And
it's just a weird situation, and it's one that there
haven't been any answers for and there's a lot of
a lot of well earned uncertainty.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
You're at, is there a fix all for the tackling?
Everyone just points to tackling is just bad. And outside
of going full go and running old school Oklahoma drills
at practice in season, can you do anything to improve
on tackling for a football team that is just exceptionally
poor at doinso Jalen Davis doesn't.
Speaker 3 (09:10):
Do that, I'm just kidding. They do think Dalens will
improve their tackling, as much as that doesn't seem like
an answer. One thing I really did notice was they
were there over the last two or three weeks really
since the buy have been tangible changes, even to the
part of practice we see that's open to the media,
which is just about the first twenty minutes. For example,
they've revamped and re emphasized their pre practice tackling circuit
(09:35):
where they do different technique stuff during special teams portions
like the other day, how usually the coordinators just kind
of watch special teams, get a feel for what's going
on with practice. You know, Zack's kind of on the sideline,
The coordinators are on the sideline, and then the position coaches.
You're still a couple of drills with the guys who
don't play special teams to keep the guys loose, like
(09:56):
Tomorrow does work on a ladder for example, and catches
some passes from Troy Wall. Well, this week, Al Golden
was one on one specifically, I saw with Barrett Carter
doing pursuit drills, read and react type stuff, like Al
Golden got very involved in a way that I hadn't
seen before in that pre or in that special team's
(10:16):
portion of practice before individual drills. Another thing is yesterday
it looked like the defense didn't walk through basically another
walk through before practice. I was like, right before practice,
usually it's walked through lunch break practice. This was walk
through lunch, go out to practice, start practice with basically
(10:37):
another short walkthrough which is something I hadn't seen. So
they they've done little things like that, but I don't
know that that saves the defense.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
Charlie, in your opinion, what is the best pass for
the Bengals to win on Sunday? How does that play out?
Speaker 3 (10:53):
The style of games just has to be very specific.
It's so crazy to see how the shoes of verse.
I keep going back to the Patriots game in Cincinnati
last year, except the shoes on the other foot. The
Patriots have an explosive of an offense as you'll see
in the NFL, and the Bengals are either playing a
hurt quarterback and Joe bang up quarterback and Joe Blaco
(11:15):
or Joe Burrow, who you'll want to keep some guardrails for.
So the biggest thing, because I don't think this defense
is going to play great, can they finally create a
turnover this week? Is there one way that they can?
You know, you know, that one blitz game or that
one coverage disguise or someone just steps up and makes
the play as simple as that sounds. Hecket could even
(11:35):
be on special teams. That's how the Patriots beat the
Bengals last year. Charlie Jones fumbled the punt, So something
like that needs to happen, and then you limit possessions
and then maybe end the game with the shot.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
Charlie, I would be remiss not to ask you from
the reds Hot Stove League this week the description from
Nick Crawl on Elie de la Cruz. We talked about
it during red season, the power numbers, the stolen bases,
the airs. Knowing now what we know, what do you
make of the situation with Ellie and what he was
dealing with throughout the season.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
Of course they should have given him a day off.
It was the wrong decision they made. It was a
bad move. It was a thing they'll will approach much
differently in twenty twenty six. I think some context that's
also important to keep in mind is from what I
was told behind the scenes. You know, they tracked daily religiously,
just like they do in any sport. These players sprint
(12:29):
speed and some underlying metrics of athleticism and help with
their sports science department and all of that stuff. And
Ellie's numbers were trending in a positive direction that closer
to what you'd want to see by the end of
the season, and he actually ended the year the last
couple of weeks not quite like hot hot, but warm
trending in the right direction. So it's not like this
(12:52):
was an injury that kept getting worse and worse, snowballed in,
snowballed got away from Ellie in the Reds should have
shut him down and said they should have done some
different stuff earlier in the process. But it's not like
this was some terrible, terrible, you know, tear that got
worse and worse, and was made worse and worse by
(13:13):
keeping playing him every day through the finish line.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
In your in your opinion, Charlie, Before I let you go,
you see BYU tomorrow night. Let's just round off what's
going to be an unbelievable fun sports weekend. It's been
a little worrisome because we've seen more of sores By
that we saw down the stretch last year over the
last two games for the Bearcats, I feel like they've
had a lack of answers for man to man coverage.
(13:38):
Have you seen anything in this team you finally get
nip at night Senior night, have you seen any anything
that you can build on to say, Okay, they can
turn this around, they can beat BYU they can find
a way to finish nine and three on the year.
Speaker 3 (13:51):
Well, this is it, right, this is you know, obviously
the Big Twelve title Hits took a disappointing Title hope
took a disappointing turn. But still, what a win against
a team like that on a stage like that in
a night game. We remember some unbelievable night games in
Effort Stadium and how those just stick with you for
a while. What a win on Saturday could just do
(14:12):
for the program, even though the Big Twelve hopes that
have taken a hit, that's really significant and it all
comes back just to Sadderfield Storesby in the ecosystem for
the passing game, the adjustment we all know they need
to make, finding more options against Manda man coverage, finding
more options against flitches, finding more ways to get Joe
Royer involved. Doing all that coming off of some frustrating
(14:34):
performances from Soorsby. It's a good test of, you know,
the resilience to resolve, the ability to bounce back of
this team and if they can do it, and if
that pans out, that's huge, and if not, then this
season could end on a really disappointing note. And you
feel like you haven't made enough progress.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
Charlie, man, you are the absolute best. What is the
easiest ways It's such a huge week for Cincinnati Sports,
the stretch run, things going on with the since Sinnati reads,
what's the easiest way to follow along with everything you
got going on?
Speaker 3 (15:04):
Charlie Shockbird on Substack Charlie Shockbort on Fox nineteen. Hey, Tony,
maybe all were in India one of these three games
this weekend? Were you?
Speaker 2 (15:11):
What's your your You're heading down to Heritage tonight.
Speaker 3 (15:15):
Heading to Heritage, got our seats and uh excited for it.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
Let's go, Charlie. I can't wait. Man, you're the best.
Hopefully I see you this week and if not, we'll
talk again next week. There he is, Charlie Goldsmith always
always appreciative of Charlie and his time. Very busy time
right now for Charlie. So follow along with everything he's
got going on. Stay with us your talkbacks next on
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Speaker 1 (15:43):
School Listen
This is Tony Pike's Friday Football Frenzy Show, brought to
you in part five fellow Windows and door making life
writer pelenaw Hey. Later Skyline Hilly Dealing Good. It's Skyline time,
Encore Technologies, visit OnCore dot Tech, Hudson Oil, Healing Champions,
on and off the Field, Game Day, Man's Health, Start
(00:25):
your best life today, and by the Creation Museum It's
more than a museum. Visit Creation Museum dot Org today
on ESPN fifteen thirty, the official home of the Cincinnati Bengals.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
All right, here we go, Hour number two thanks to
Cincy Shirts the Friday Football Friends. He let's get right
into it Hour two Friday. Our good friend Charlie Goldsmith's
anybody to join us right now?
Speaker 3 (00:51):
Charlie?
Speaker 2 (00:52):
What's up?
Speaker 3 (00:53):
Tony? How you doing? Charlie?
Speaker 2 (00:55):
I'm great. Look, I know we got to dive into
the Joe Burrow and we will before that. Can you
find a path the UCBD moival tonight, Charlie.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
It's a team that's much improved from the perimeter, especially
when you look at kind of how things got clogged
for them offensively in previous years. Cantinet be a night
where you see can win with the style. We haven't
seen a ton from them in a while. It's kind
of the perimeter attack, you know, Baba making some freeze
Knakrigaez come off the bench and make some threes day
day shot the ball. Well, this year they've got shooters.
(01:26):
Let's see if they can make some shots in an
arena that's terrible to shoot in.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
All right, Charlie, uh the up to the date updates
on Joe Burrow. He's officially listed as questionable. What do
we know up to this point and what do you
think happens on Sunday.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
We just talked to Zach for a while. Here's my
read on the situation. You don't get to this point
unless Burrow feels like he can play, feel healthy enough
to play. And I think there's enough optimism that is,
from a pure health and physical standpoint, Burrow's pretty much there.
I feel pretty strongly about that now talking to Zach,
(02:07):
you know they're gonna take the time they have. They're
comfortable taking the time they have. Burrow's listed as questionable.
What Zach talked a lot about is this being his
call and he's got to do what's best for the program.
Do what's best for Burrow and make the right decision.
And there's a lot of factor in there, like how
does Burrow read a defense? How does Burrow respond to
(02:27):
not having any you know, real live speed reps until just,
you know, a few days ago. How does you know
the the can you call sixty passes? Where Burrow's running
all over the field? Like what guardrails do you have
to set up? From a play caller perspectives, I really
think Zach's just taken in all the information. He wants
to go back through how it all went this weekend
(02:49):
and he'll make a call.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
Tomorrow outside of Joe Burrow and what we know or
wait to know around Joe Burrow. We know Jamar Chase
is not going to be playing on Sunday. How do
they make up for the production they'll lose from Jamar Chase.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
We've seen before when Chase is out just taking step
into the one a Spotlight needs as we all know
more than good enough to do that. The most interesting
wrinkles for me there are two. One Andre Josavash's role
really over the last two years has been and he
even said this line up where Jamar isn't you know
moved Jamar out wire to the slot, you know, move
(03:25):
Jamar out wide, Yoshi fields mcgaps. What routes do they
think are Andre's best routes When you're just coming up
with the game plan for maybe you know, five six
plays where you're featuring Joseavash, what are those routes? I
wonder if we see more plays up the scene, more
back shoulder throws to Andre, and then overall, what style
of game do you want this to be? Maybe without
(03:46):
Jamar and either way slacker or burrow or quarterback. You
don't want throwing it fifty times? Do you try to
take the air out out of the game? Kind of play?
The style that New England played in Cincinnati last year
minimized Deessians establish the run? How just more of a patient,
conservative overall approach. So that approach would lead to more
(04:08):
of a role for Chase Brown, maybe using more tight
ends if you're trying to establish the run, more play action.
I look at the style of play and then ways
to use Yoshi as different wrinkles they could come up
with on the deal.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
Well, let's stick one more on the offensive side of
the ball. The running game has opened up and a
lot of people think there's something to the way Joe
Flacko has played his ability to go under center. If
Joe Burrow is playing, we've seen an uneasiness of going
under center. Can this team still run the ball effectively
with the advancements they've made on the offensive line if
they are majority shotgun?
Speaker 3 (04:44):
Yes, you know my honest opinion, I think the understand
the storylines the most overrated conversation around the Bengals. They've
proven over the years that if there's a match of
what they feel like, they have a true specific advantage.
That's all make under center pack, which is a big
part of what they do now. All right, There's one
thing they did with Flacco specifically in both games against
(05:05):
the Steelers, they had him do under center straight dropbacks.
They stopped teaching that twenty years ago. Burrow was not
going to do that. But sure, that takes five plays
out of your call sheet that you had with Flacco.
But of course you have more things you can do
with Burrow. I just think the whole under center thing
is so situational and it's not a solve a save,
(05:27):
a catch all answer for them to have a better
run game or a more efficient.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
Offense on the defensive side of the ball. Charlie. I
know the final score said thirty four last week, but
two defensive touchdowns, and I thought the defense, at least
in the first half was able to get the ball
back to the offense for more opportunities. Did you see
anything against the Steelers that leads you to believe they're
trending in the right direction on the defensive side of
the ball.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
Overall, though, I think Pittsburgh's offense shut itself in the
foot a lot and Aaron Rodgers tentan to look like
how you would fee r a worse piece scenario for
Joe Flack all right when he got here would have gone.
You know, a quarterback who can't move and gets rid
of the ball right away without any real sense of
where it's going. That's a lot us off from the
Steelers offense in the first half with Aaron Rodgers. Of course,
Blacko hadn't been that in Cincinnattie, But that's just my
(06:13):
way to criticize how beatable that Steelers offense was. An
underrated storyline of the week is now with cam Taylor
britt out. So what I was told yesterday, it sounds
like Jalen Davis is going to get the start in
the slot coming off the practice squad. He's not a
perfect player, but he has he knows the defense. He
(06:33):
is a better tackler than what they've had. He has
good awareness and good instincts. He can get beaten coverage.
He's a step slower than maybe what you want from
your slock corner, but that is one personnel change we'll
see on defense.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
Uh, Dejon Anthony, any update on if he's going to
be able to go, and how do you view obviously
Cam Taylor Britt do you view any changes coming to
the safety room, which I think could use some help
as well.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
Dajon's questionable. I don't see changes coming to the safety
room right now because of what we've seen from Tyson
Anderson over the years in training camp and unlimited opportunities
on defense, what we've seen from Dejon Anthony when he
whenever he's been on the field, and you know, you
love PJ. Jeweles on special teams, but this guy was
a linebacker in college. He's not coming in free safety
(07:19):
and saving your offense. They did such a poor job
of misevaluating their safety depth that even though it is
clearly time for a change of free safety. They just
don't have that option. I don't think Dejong's that option either,
whenever he's healthy, unless it's December and you're truly just
in a developmental play the kid mindset, as much as
we've all seen it, and we've all seen it, as
(07:40):
crazy as this is going to sound, he knows Stone's
still their best free safety on the roster.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
Trey Hendrickson is out. We have seen now in back
to back games, right on the Monday press conference where
Zach Taylor has essentially said Trey Hendrickson is doubtful. Normally,
I feel like Zach holds the cards a little closer
to the chest to wait and see how the week goes.
How do you view the Trey Hendrickson situation? What's unfolding?
(08:05):
And do you think we've seen the last of Trey
Hendrickson this year.
Speaker 3 (08:10):
I don't have a good feeling about this one. I
truly don't know. I don't know that they know. There
hasn't been any concrete answers from them. If they had
concrete answers, they probably have put them on IR which
hasn't come. I haven't seen trade trade around as much.
Something I've been thinking about is like one of his
closest friends on the team was Logan, and of course
that Logan Wilson trade should happen, But like all of
(08:31):
Trey's friends are gone, and it's a bad team and
how is this all from his perspective right now? And
it's just a weird situation, and it's one that there
haven't been any answers for and there's a lot of
a lot of well earned uncertainty.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
You're at, is there a fix all for the tackling?
Everyone just points to tackling is just bad. And outside
of going full go and running old school Oklahoma drills
at practice in season, can you do anything to improve
on tackling for a football team that is just exceptionally
poor at doinso Jalen Davis doesn't.
Speaker 3 (09:10):
Do that, I'm just kidding. They do think Dalens will
improve their tackling, as much as that doesn't seem like
an answer. One thing I really did notice was they
were there over the last two or three weeks really
since the buy have been tangible changes, even to the
part of practice we see that's open to the media,
which is just about the first twenty minutes. For example,
they've revamped and re emphasized their pre practice tackling circuit
(09:35):
where they do different technique stuff during special teams portions
like the other day, how usually the coordinators just kind
of watch special teams, get a feel for what's going
on with practice. You know, Zack's kind of on the sideline,
The coordinators are on the sideline, and then the position coaches.
You're still a couple of drills with the guys who
don't play special teams to keep the guys loose, like
(09:56):
Tomorrow does work on a ladder for example, and catches
some passes from Troy Wall. Well, this week, Al Golden
was one on one specifically, I saw with Barrett Carter
doing pursuit drills, read and react type stuff, like Al
Golden got very involved in a way that I hadn't
seen before in that pre or in that special team's
(10:16):
portion of practice before individual drills. Another thing is yesterday
it looked like the defense didn't walk through basically another
walk through before practice. I was like, right before practice,
usually it's walked through lunch break practice. This was walk
through lunch, go out to practice, start practice with basically
(10:37):
another short walkthrough which is something I hadn't seen. So
they they've done little things like that, but I don't
know that that saves the defense.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
Charlie, in your opinion, what is the best pass for
the Bengals to win on Sunday? How does that play out?
Speaker 3 (10:53):
The style of games just has to be very specific.
It's so crazy to see how the shoes of verse.
I keep going back to the Patriots game in Cincinnati
last year, except the shoes on the other foot. The
Patriots have an explosive of an offense as you'll see
in the NFL, and the Bengals are either playing a
hurt quarterback and Joe bang up quarterback and Joe Blaco
(11:15):
or Joe Burrow, who you'll want to keep some guardrails for.
So the biggest thing, because I don't think this defense
is going to play great, can they finally create a
turnover this week? Is there one way that they can?
You know, you know, that one blitz game or that
one coverage disguise or someone just steps up and makes
the play as simple as that sounds. Hecket could even
(11:35):
be on special teams. That's how the Patriots beat the
Bengals last year. Charlie Jones fumbled the punt, So something
like that needs to happen, and then you limit possessions
and then maybe end the game with the shot.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
Charlie, I would be remiss not to ask you from
the reds Hot Stove League this week the description from
Nick Crawl on Elie de la Cruz. We talked about
it during red season, the power numbers, the stolen bases,
the airs. Knowing now what we know, what do you
make of the situation with Ellie and what he was
dealing with throughout the season.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
Of course they should have given him a day off.
It was the wrong decision they made. It was a
bad move. It was a thing they'll will approach much
differently in twenty twenty six. I think some context that's
also important to keep in mind is from what I
was told behind the scenes. You know, they tracked daily religiously,
just like they do in any sport. These players sprint
(12:29):
speed and some underlying metrics of athleticism and help with
their sports science department and all of that stuff. And
Ellie's numbers were trending in a positive direction that closer
to what you'd want to see by the end of
the season, and he actually ended the year the last
couple of weeks not quite like hot hot, but warm
trending in the right direction. So it's not like this
(12:52):
was an injury that kept getting worse and worse, snowballed in,
snowballed got away from Ellie in the Reds should have
shut him down and said they should have done some
different stuff earlier in the process. But it's not like
this was some terrible, terrible, you know, tear that got
worse and worse, and was made worse and worse by
(13:13):
keeping playing him every day through the finish line.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
In your in your opinion, Charlie, Before I let you go,
you see BYU tomorrow night. Let's just round off what's
going to be an unbelievable fun sports weekend. It's been
a little worrisome because we've seen more of sores By
that we saw down the stretch last year over the
last two games for the Bearcats, I feel like they've
had a lack of answers for man to man coverage.
(13:38):
Have you seen anything in this team you finally get
nip at night Senior night, have you seen any anything
that you can build on to say, Okay, they can
turn this around, they can beat BYU they can find
a way to finish nine and three on the year.
Speaker 3 (13:51):
Well, this is it, right, this is you know, obviously
the Big Twelve title Hits took a disappointing Title hope
took a disappointing turn. But still, what a win against
a team like that on a stage like that in
a night game. We remember some unbelievable night games in
Effort Stadium and how those just stick with you for
a while. What a win on Saturday could just do
(14:12):
for the program, even though the Big Twelve hopes that
have taken a hit, that's really significant and it all
comes back just to Sadderfield Storesby in the ecosystem for
the passing game, the adjustment we all know they need
to make, finding more options against Manda man coverage, finding
more options against flitches, finding more ways to get Joe
Royer involved. Doing all that coming off of some frustrating
(14:34):
performances from Soorsby. It's a good test of, you know,
the resilience to resolve, the ability to bounce back of
this team and if they can do it, and if
that pans out, that's huge, and if not, then this
season could end on a really disappointing note. And you
feel like you haven't made enough progress.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
Charlie, man, you are the absolute best. What is the
easiest ways It's such a huge week for Cincinnati Sports,
the stretch run, things going on with the since Sinnati reads,
what's the easiest way to follow along with everything you
got going on?
Speaker 3 (15:04):
Charlie Shockbird on Substack Charlie Shockbort on Fox nineteen. Hey, Tony,
maybe all were in India one of these three games
this weekend? Were you?
Speaker 2 (15:11):
What's your your You're heading down to Heritage tonight.
Speaker 3 (15:15):
Heading to Heritage, got our seats and uh excited for it.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
Let's go, Charlie. I can't wait. Man, you're the best.
Hopefully I see you this week and if not, we'll
talk again next week. There he is, Charlie Goldsmith always
always appreciative of Charlie and his time. Very busy time
right now for Charlie. So follow along with everything he's
got going on. Stay with us your talkbacks next on
the Friday Football Frendsy ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station
Speaker 1 (15:43):
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