Cincy 360 w/ Tony Pike & Austin Elmore -- 8/1/25

Tony and Austin talk with Charlie Goldsmith and Tommy G, take your calls and TalkBacks, and more on ESPN 1530!

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:21):
Happy Friday, Welcome in to the latest edition of Cincy
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Speaker 4 (00:52):
Oh yeah, Giovanni Manard, come on, come.

Speaker 5 (01:08):
On, yeah, maybe come on.

Speaker 2 (01:15):
It's a Friday. Let's have fun. You may be wondering, well,
what happened from ten to noon? We will bangals don't
have practice today.

Speaker 5 (01:25):
We're just here.

Speaker 2 (01:28):
Yeah, we're having fun. It's a Friday. You know what
that means. Let's do it, man, We're gonna have an
enjoyable day. I'm not afraid to just have a good time.
Yeah you uh, You're welcome to be a part of it.
Five one, three, seven, four nine, fifteen thirty one of
those days, Austin. I know you're you're locked into the show,

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but you're also getting on the road after the show today,
that's right, and heading to Bristol. What's your excitement level?
Because you were you were on and off, you didn't
know if you really wanted to go when you decided
to go. Yeah, where's your level of excitement right now?
I actually am excited. I am looking forward to it.

Speaker 3 (02:12):
For those you know that know me personally, there's just
been a lot going on and a lot of change
happening in my life behind the scenes, and so it's
been stressful, and so I am looking forward to a
weekend in which I don't have to stress about stuff.
I can just have fun. I may or may not
have a couple of cold beverages, may or may not

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smoke a cigar, Go down there to the beautiful volunteer state,
watch a little baseball, act like I'm at a NASCAR race,
put the mustache on.

Speaker 5 (02:44):
I'm looking forward to it. I am excited.

Speaker 3 (02:46):
I'm like part of me dreads the drive because it
is like five hours five and a half to where
we're staying. That I don't look forward to. But I
do look forward to some friendship, some fellowship, some base.
Little rubbin's racing, come on with it.

Speaker 5 (03:02):
Now.

Speaker 3 (03:04):
I've been to Bristol before. It's been a long time.
I was just a wee lad back then. Rubbing is racing.
That's exciting. What about you? How are you feeling today?
Did you celebrate last night? He had a little celebrated
celebration last night. What I thought was.

Speaker 2 (03:19):
What I thought about the Bristol game itself is early on,
I didn't know really how I felt about it or
what to think. But Joe Danam and Jeremy Row have
been there and they've been doing some videos today. The
more I see of it, the more I think it's
gonna be really cool.

Speaker 6 (03:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (03:34):
Like, I'm like, man, that, regardless of the Braves not
being good and what the the Reds are doing right now,
that still looks like a lot of fun.

Speaker 5 (03:41):
Man.

Speaker 3 (03:42):
I literally said to somebody last night because I was
at the Reds game and they were doing the the
uh introductions of the starting lineups, and I looked at
the Braves lineup and I'm like, how are these guys
not fifteen games over five hundred?

Speaker 5 (03:56):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (03:57):
Like, how are they not thirty games better than they are. Like,
there's some dudes on that team you go through, like
some of their offensive numbers, the power has just not
been there. Obviously, their pitching is really really hurt. And
then of course they come out and put on that
sort of offensive performance last night in one of the
wilder games that I've ever been to.

Speaker 2 (04:16):
Yeah, we're going to dive into last night's game, one
of the craziest eighth innings in baseball history, where the
Braves scored eight in the top half and the Reds
then scored eight in the bottom half, and Reds ultimately
lose the game in ten innings. I woke up and
I thought about this last night, and we'll talk about it.
I almost would have rather lost eleven to three, Yeah,

(04:37):
then come all the way back and lose in the
fashion they did. You could talk about a base running
blunder in the tenth from Elie de la Cruz, But
to score eight runs in an eighth inning to tie
a game, only to lose it in extra innings, it
just felt like, and Spencer Steer alluded to it after
the game, that's a tough one to take.

Speaker 5 (04:57):
Yeah, that is a tough loss.

Speaker 2 (04:59):
You combine that with what the Reds did or didn't
do with the trade deadline compared to what some of
the other contenders did. My goodness, there were teams yesterday
Austin that made a statement to the rest of baseball
that said, we are trying to win this year. One
team that didn't was the Minnesota Twins, who essentially got

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rid of their whole roster. Carlos Correa is back to
the Astros the I don't know what to make of
what the Reds did because I looked at what the
other contenders did, and I don't know if the Reds

(05:40):
could have done enough to stay contenders.

Speaker 3 (05:42):
I heard Charlie Goldsmith explain it, and that was the
best explanation I've heard is that they've raised their floor
a little bit. Doesn't really feel like they've raised their
ceiling a ton, but they've at least raised their floor.
You would feel better about Miguel Andrew Harr than you
would Connor Joe right and defensively last night, notwithstanding, you

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feel better about Cabrian Hayes than anyone else. I got
to get better at saying key Brian Brian Hayes at
third base than you would just about anybody else playing
that position, and you always need pitching depth, and you
got some with Zach Lttel, and you would think that,
you know, the cause and effect is that it makes

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your bullpen better with Chase Burns, with Nick Martinez. So
all together they're a slightly better baseball team. Are they
a baseball team that can compete with everybody else in
the National League?

Speaker 5 (06:40):
I don't know that you could say they are.

Speaker 3 (06:43):
It's actually the topic of our Revive Fitness Systems dot
com pole question for today, ton what grade do you
give the Reds for the trade deadline?

Speaker 5 (06:52):
Right now?

Speaker 3 (06:54):
There have only been three votes cast. One vote was
cast for B, one for C, and one for okay,
So we've got a three way tie at thirty three
point three percent for those three and nobody has voted
for A.

Speaker 2 (07:08):
Okay, we'll talk more about the deadline. But winners at
the deadline right now seem to be the Seattle Mariners,
the San Diego Padres, the Philadelphia Phillies, the New York Mets,
and the Houston Astros, among others. The Chicago Cubs didn't
really add as much as people thought they were going to.

Speaker 5 (07:26):
Yeah, I saw their GM getting heavily criticized.

Speaker 2 (07:30):
Yeah, they have a list on ESPN dot com of
winners and losers.

Speaker 5 (07:34):
The Cubs are a loser. They have the Reds as
a loser. It says this.

Speaker 2 (07:36):
We applaud the Reds for making a couple of deals,
after all, they haven't made the playoffs in a full
season since twenty thirteen. But the additions are just odd fits. Again,
they did something, and I know we asked for that.
I don't know how meaningful what they did is going
to be in the long run.

Speaker 3 (07:57):
Yeah, I mean you just you got to hope that
they play lean baseball and they get hot. Yeah, So
in that sense, you really haven't changed. You had to
hope that whether they were, you know, with these guys
or without these guys.

Speaker 2 (08:10):
So not much change in that sense. Let's go around
the NFL a little bit as well. Obviously no Bengals
practice today to talk about, but there are things happening
around other training camps. One Diana Russini broke this about
an hour ago Austin. The Micah Parsons and Cowboys relationship
has deteriorated to the point where this star pass rusher

(08:33):
is considering drastic measures, which it could include a trade
request or even a declaration that he is severing his
relationship with the team. This according to multiple situations, the
two sides remain far apart heading in the second week
of training camp and are currently not negotiating. That's on
Micah Parsons. Of course, Washington commander wide receiver Terry McLaurin

(08:54):
requested a trade yesterday as well, So it does happen.
It's not just here, and since there are other teams
that go through contract situations, other players hold out. But
by all accounts, things are getting worse in Dallas with
Micah Parsons, and things got to a level in Washington
with Terry McLaurin where he's now requested a trade as well.

Speaker 3 (09:14):
Yeah, it feels like the McLaurin thing is a lot
closer than the Micah Parsons thing. I mean, when you
start talking about potentially severing ties with an organization altogether,
that seems like it could be beyond repair. And you know,
from just watching from afar, those are two people, Jerry
Jones and Micah Parsons, who are very very good at

(09:34):
putting their foot in their mouth, both of them. Uh
So it's like an unstoppable force meeting an immovable object.
With those two, I have no idea how that's going
going in what do you do? But I would think
that the commanders eventually would cave. I mean I heard
Lewis Riddick talking about this this morning. I mean, the
guy's thirty years old. When you look at a lot

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of the advanced metrics and the data about the impact
he has on the field. I mean, if I would
if if I would have given you ten guesses and
who has the most contested catches in the NFL over
the next five over the last five years, would you
have ever guessed Terry McLaurin. No, No, he does. He
leads the NFL in that category. And it's such a
unique spot because you have you went out and got debo.

Speaker 5 (10:17):
Mm hm. You have a year two quarterback who was
unbelievable last year.

Speaker 3 (10:21):
In his QBR. When McLaurin is on the field compared
to off the field is ridiculously different. Yeah, I mean,
it just makes sense to invest in that guy. And
I guess that number of thirty million dollars is kind
of the sticking point. And I'm sure the Jamar Chase
and Jefferson deals and CD Lamb and others are you know,
kind of what those guys are going off of. But

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that doesn't look like it's in a good spot either.

Speaker 2 (10:45):
Speaking of around the NFL, there was a football game
last night, the Hall of Fame Game, and you can't
help but wonder Ben Johnson, Aaron Glenn what they've left
the Detroit Tigers with. What about the Lions? The Detroit Lions,
I'm still thinking trade deadline. Tigers did make some moves.
I know it's preseason. I know you don't dive deep
into it, but I will say this, I thought Trade

(11:08):
Lance looked like an NFL quarterback last night. Yeah, whatever
they've done with him in Los Angeles, that was probably
a by low opportunity for the Chargers, but he was
thirteen to twenty two touchdowns last night. I think Trade
Lance looked really good. Yeah for the Chargers, and I'm
happy for him. I hope he does do well.

Speaker 3 (11:27):
My favorite part of last night was really not anything
that happened on the field. It was the first use
of the Hawkeye technology for spotting the ball, not really
spotting the ball, but determining the distance between the yard
to gain and the.

Speaker 5 (11:44):
Spot of the ball rip to the chain gang yeah.

Speaker 3 (11:47):
I mean, Chain Gang's still there, but they're not really
all that important, I guess anymore. But that looked pretty
cool and seemed pretty seamless and could be a good.

Speaker 5 (11:57):
Thing for the NFL. Yeah, I agree with that.

Speaker 3 (12:00):
For those who don't know, the ball is spotted as
it is normally spotted. But the same technology that is
used in the tennis in or out system in the
automated ball strike system for baseball is called Hawkeye technology,
and they've brought that to the NFL. There's a chip
in the ball and all these different cameras and sensors
across each NFL stadium, and basically it can tell you

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exactly the distance between where the ball is spotted on
the field and the yard to gain prior to or
for each play. So the yard to gain is already
measured by the chains or wherever based on where the
ball is at previously, and then where the ball is
at once it's spotted, it gets quickly like comes up

(12:44):
on the screen, yeah, and shows you the distance. It
was really cool last night.

Speaker 5 (12:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (12:49):
I thought it was helpful. I thought it sped things
along a little bit, and I'm good with that. FC
Cincinnati beat Monterey last night. How about the Orangine Blue
knocking off Monterey in the League's Cup. They turn around
and play Sunday. I don't know much about the League's Cup,
so we'll talk to someone who does. Tom Gletter will

(13:11):
join us at two o'clock today. Amarus Mims missed yesterday's practice,
had his hand wrapped. Zach Taylor talked about just being
safe here, dealing with some minor injury stuff with a
couple of players. I want to talk about those conversations
as it pertains to the trainer and the coach with
Bob Manjeen in the third hour as well. And even

(13:32):
though the Reds play at twelve forty today Austin, We're
still going to talk to Charlie Goldsmith at one o'clock.

Speaker 3 (13:38):
Yeah, you know, I've reached out to Charlie yesterday to
you know, try to get the temperature of what you know,
his day would look like. And Charlie was adamant. He said, listen,
I'm gonna make time for the Hall of Famer. I
don't care. I don't care if the game is happening,
I don't care if I'm in the press box, it
doesn't matter. I want to as a sign of respect
be here for the Hall of Famer and for Sincy three.

(14:00):
So while the Reds game is happening from Great American Ballpark,
we will talk to Charlie Goldsmith.

Speaker 5 (14:06):
That's a first for us, I think.

Speaker 3 (14:07):
So we've talked to him like right before games before, yes,
but not during, not you know, half an hour into
a game.

Speaker 5 (14:15):
I am.

Speaker 2 (14:15):
I'm looking forward to talking to Charlie about Reds. We'll
talk some begles as well. You mentioned our revivefitnessystem dot
com poll question. We've got phone calls we need to
get to. But when we get back, let's kick things
off Austin by recapping what was surely a memorable night
at the ballpark last night between the Reds and the Braves.
The Reds unfortunately come out on the wrong side of it.

(14:38):
We'll recap last night. We'll set the stage for today
and for this weekend in Bristol with the Reds and
the Braves. That's coming next, and then your phone calls
on ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports station thanks to Skyline
Chili Loeggar.

Speaker 5 (14:52):
There was some pooling of the team last night. When
it couns to sports, those things, he's got something to
say or just natural byproducts of and plenty of a
poor play.

Speaker 2 (15:01):
Mulegger today three on ESPN fifteen thirty.

Speaker 7 (15:08):
You know one slinging there to climb ball well hit
deep wee head.

Speaker 5 (15:13):
It's god, I.

Speaker 6 (15:14):
Don't believe it.

Speaker 5 (15:16):
This game is tied. A three run home run.

Speaker 8 (15:21):
From Spencer Steer and the runs and answered the brains
eight of the eighth.

Speaker 5 (15:30):
I can't believe it.

Speaker 9 (15:31):
I can't believe it.

Speaker 10 (15:33):
Oh my god, this is unbelievable.

Speaker 2 (15:38):
There have been sixteen run scoring here in the eighth
inning of the RUMs and tied with.

Speaker 8 (15:43):
Bad Boylse Wow, and there's still nobody out.

Speaker 10 (15:48):
Old man, are you kidding me?

Speaker 11 (15:52):
I just can't believe it.

Speaker 6 (15:55):
I can't.

Speaker 8 (15:56):
I don't believe it.

Speaker 5 (15:58):
This is the craziest I've ever seen, never seen anything
like it.

Speaker 6 (16:03):
Dude.

Speaker 2 (16:03):
That was so awesome since he three to sixty thanks
to Skyline Chile. The three run home run from Spencer
Steer in the bottom of the eighth it capped off
Austin eight straight hits and eight runs.

Speaker 5 (16:12):
For the Reds. It was unreal.

Speaker 2 (16:14):
After the Braves scored eight runs in the top half
of the eighth, Ellie de la Cruz in the game,
broke a twenty nine game homerless streak.

Speaker 5 (16:24):
Finished the month of July with one home run.

Speaker 2 (16:26):
Yep, how about keep Brian Hayes, the Reds brought in
did hit a home run, but also a player that
was brought in for the Reds defense misplayed a inning
ending double play that allowed the Braves to tie the game.
That was an ideal no from key Brian Hayes. A
Marcelo Zuna sack fly drove in Matt Olson in the tenth.

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Ellie de la Cruz started the bottom of the tenth
on second for the Reds and then, on a ball
hit to shortstop, Ellie inexplicably started to run to third
base and got thrown out. Now Austin Hayes ended up
getting to second on a very good play, but the
Reds mounted no push in the bottom of the tenth.
They lose twelve eleven, Yes, after scoring eight runs in

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the bottom of the eighth, and that place going bonkers
the pandemonium that was setting in. They weren't able to
do anything in the ninth. They weren't able to do
anything in the tenth. And for all the good and
for all the fun that last night was it almost
stings even more that they came out on the wrong
side of the of the win loss column. I mean,

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Spencer Steeer talked after the game about how much the
lost stings. You could visibly see from the players, how
much of a gut punch it was.

Speaker 3 (17:45):
And on the other side, if you win the game
like that, oh my god, I feel like the momentum
going into this weekend yep, and after the trade deadline
where they at least made some moves and it's like, Okay,
now we have a chance to go on a run here, yep.
And instead you lose the way that they did. I
don't know, Like which is more powerful, the momentum coming

(18:06):
back from down eight runs or the momentum from coming
back down eight runs and still losing the game, Like,
how do you prevent that from trickling into today's game
and ultimately Saturday.

Speaker 5 (18:20):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (18:22):
And it's not only that, Austin, but you pair that
with the fact that now you're chasing a team. And
we talked about winners at the trade deadline. The Phillies
were a winner, the Padres were a winner. Those are
the teams alongside the Cubs that you're chasing in the
NL wild Card. The Padres have won five games in
a row, and you look at what the Padres did

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yesterday at the deadline, and you look at what the
Reds did at the deadline, and then you take a
devastating loss like that last night. I am we've talked
often about this team's ability when their backs are against
the wall to come out swinging. I don't know, Austin,
if that's been tested more than what it will be today.
A game that goes late last night, all the momentum,

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and then it's the gut punch, and now you got
to turn around and you got to play an early
afternoon game, and then right after the game, you're heading
to Bristol for what's going to be a supposed to
be a really cool moment. But you don't want to
go into that. You know, losers of a couple games,
you want to try to find some momentum going into that.
So today's one of those games you circle because you're
going to find out a lot about this team. They're
only three and a half out. It's still striking distance.

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But it felt to me, Austin, that the gap in
the NL wild Card was widened yesterday by not only
the result last night, by seeing what some of those
other teams did at the deadline.

Speaker 3 (19:40):
Yeah, I mean it kind of to me made it like, Okay,
the REGs of the only team that's going to actually
challenge the Padres. To me, it kind of clarified, Okay,
it's either going to be the red of the Padres.
That's it in the National League Center or in the
National League wild card race. Because the Cardinals sold their pieces,
the Giants sold their pieces, the marl and sold some guys,

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So it's like and obviously Arizona, but I will say this,
I wonder is the Padres trading like eight dudes or whatever?

Speaker 5 (20:15):
It was?

Speaker 12 (20:16):
Like?

Speaker 3 (20:18):
Is that? Can that go the other way for them?
Could It's like, you are eleven games over five hundred,
you're only a couple of games back of the Dodgers,
and you're gonna do basically a shift change like you're
a hockey team. Could that potentially work in the opposite direction?

Speaker 13 (20:38):
It can?

Speaker 2 (20:39):
I'm just spec said it because they had one five
in a row and they've been playing really good, right,
I don't know. Last night just felt it felt devastating. Yeah,
and you put that on top of the loss the
other day against the Dodgers when you had to lead
late in the game, that felt devastating.

Speaker 5 (21:00):
That's just a lot.

Speaker 3 (21:01):
The thing I keep coming back to, kind of the
difference between the Reds and everybody else more towards your
point is that the Padres, they have the league leader
in Saves and Robert Suarez, and they went and got
a nasty closer in Mason Miller. The Mets beefed up
their bullpen. All these teams really spent an exorbitant amount

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to get their bullpen fixed up, and the Reds really didn't.
And it makes me wonder if that will eventually come
back to bite them. And then the other thing I
keep coming back to, too is looking at the Padres
schedule the rest of the way. Have you seen this,
I've seen the next couple They play the Cardinals and
the Diamondbacks in their next six games sold. Both of

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those teams have sold and are not going to be competitive.

Speaker 11 (21:47):
Now.

Speaker 3 (21:48):
They do play the Dodgers, but they also have seven
games against the Giants they sold, who have totally sold.
They have twins sold, the twins who's traded like eleven players.
They still have ten games against the White Sox and Rockies,
and another three against Arizona so like, and then squeezed

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in there is three against the Reds and oh, by
the way, the Orioles who sold everybody as well. So
this has got to be the easiest remaining schedule for
anybody in baseball. And the Padres may look at it
and let's say, you look at the way I just
said things like, oh, can that kind of work opposite
against them? The Padres probably look at their schedule and say,
based on the competition, we can figure it out. And

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you just don't really feel that way with the Reds
because they play the Cubs and the Phillies and the
Dodgers and the Brewers and the Blue Jays and the
Padres and the.

Speaker 5 (22:51):
Mets and the Cubs.

Speaker 2 (22:53):
Again, we're talking about some of the best teams in
baseball campoon for a World Series are still on this schedule.

Speaker 5 (22:58):
Yeah, that is uh.

Speaker 3 (23:01):
And if the Reds go out and get somebody like ridiculous,
maybe you feel like, Okay, this person could lead the team.
But I don't know that there's anybody on the team
where I'm like, all right, we're gonna climb on their
shoulders and they're gonna lead us.

Speaker 2 (23:14):
Yeah, it is a it's a twelve forty first pitch today.
As uh, the Reds look to I guess, keep pace
with with what's going on right now. Even their winning
streak sauce and it feels like it never feels like
what they're doing is consistent. Someone gets hot and then
it comes back down to earth and even the moves

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they made, there's just not like we how much have
we talked about the clubhouse, Like when Emelio Pegan spoke
after the All Star Game? You know, do you think
the clubhouse saw the moves and they were like, now
we go like there was no difference. Makers brought in.
There were some okay, upgrades, but nothing compared to what

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some of the other teams that are vying for those
playoff spots did. In my opinion, right, that makes it tough.
It's Brady's singer day at the ballpark today. He is
opposed by Bryce Elder for the Atlanta Braves. You know
his last name, what Statesman?

Speaker 5 (24:15):
Okay, I like that. I like that.

Speaker 2 (24:23):
Not a lot of not a lot of career at
bats for the Reds against Bryce Elder. Gavin lux is
one for two against him in his career. Spencer Steeer
is one for two, Jake Frayley's one for three. Will
Benson is zero for two. These guys own them and
Key Brian Hayes a monkey. He's two for eight against him.
With you for strikeouts. You want to do a lineup?
Can we do a lineup? We want to do a

(24:43):
lineup in a while.

Speaker 3 (24:44):
I know you want to do one right now. Let's
do a line up, all right. Here's how the old
Red Legs. We'll line them up for a Friday afternoon
Matt and a getaway day getaway two Bristol, Tennessee coming
up after the game tonight. Here's how Cincinnati lines up,
first day of August. Leading off the d H game,
Lux batting second to second baseman Matt McClain.

Speaker 5 (25:04):
Is he any good? I don't know if you.

Speaker 3 (25:06):
Third batter is shortstop Ellie Da La Cruz. Noel Vie
Marte is the cleanup hitter. He plays right field.

Speaker 6 (25:12):
Today.

Speaker 3 (25:12):
Spencer Steer will bat fifth and play first. Jake Frayley
bats six, He's in left field.

Speaker 5 (25:17):
Jose A.

Speaker 3 (25:17):
Travigno is batting seventh and catching. Will Benson bats eighth.
He's playing center field and batting ninth and playing third
base is Key Brian Hayes with Brady Singer on the
mound once more. For Cincinnati, it's Lux McLain, de la Cruz,
Marte Steer, Fraley, Trevino, Benson Hayes with Singer.

Speaker 2 (25:37):
On the mound. All right, here we go Reds local
ball Club. They get started in just under ten minutes
at Great American Ballpark. For us, we'll take a break,
we'll come back and for the first time today because
we are so back end loaded as we get down
or two with Charlie Goldsmith and talkbacks and Tommy g

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the phone lines. Greg Sharonville, what's up.

Speaker 15 (26:49):
Congratulations, Thank you Greg, well deserved, well deserved. Hey, I
want to tell you. I'm just going to tell you advanced.
I already got your gift card. I just have to
get it to you.

Speaker 6 (26:58):
Love it.

Speaker 11 (26:59):
Thanks, love.

Speaker 15 (27:01):
The most important thing.

Speaker 11 (27:03):
Okay.

Speaker 15 (27:03):
I got a friend of mine. He actually his name
Steve Larkin. He listens to the show. I told him
about the show a couple of years ago. But anyway,
we get these arguments about getting rid of like say
trade and Joe, and he says, well, I knew you
always agree with Tony, that he's the best on the planet.
That should always be off the table. And I said,
and it should. And I said, I'll.

Speaker 6 (27:25):
Tell you why.

Speaker 15 (27:26):
I grew up a Frank Robinson fan. He was a
generational player. All you have to do is look at
his stats.

Speaker 6 (27:33):
And what he did.

Speaker 15 (27:35):
And I said, when they trade him, it was one
of the worst days of my life. But the worst
day is Oscar when the Royals dumped Oscar. I mean
that was brutal. I mean, I've been a UC fan,
you know. My dad went there, and of course then
I went there and when they dumped, when the Royals
dumped him, that was it for me and the Royals.

(27:56):
Of course, the Royals were gone and the next year
or so. But the reason I'm talking about this is
my friend brought me an article from the Hamilton Journal.
It was written by hal McCoy and it said a
question and answer session on the Reds and they said
he shouldn't the Reds offer Ellie a extension right now?

(28:20):
And hal McCoy said, the Reds, I read it, they
have offered him an extension, but the answer is no,
and he only wants to play for the Yankees.

Speaker 11 (28:30):
And the Dodgers.

Speaker 15 (28:31):
And my friend said, well, here's a perfect chance, he said,
dump this guy. And I said, I still wouldn't do
that because you don't know if that's going to happen.
So I was just wondering if you were Austen, have
you seen that article or have you heard.

Speaker 5 (28:44):
That I've not.

Speaker 2 (28:46):
I do know that Elie de la Cruz is agent
is Scott Boris, who is he's going to He's going
to get to his agent his clients the free agency,
he's going to maximize their value, which makes it obviously
less likely the day Cruise would sign a long term
extension with the Reds before hitting the free agent.

Speaker 5 (29:04):
Market right now.

Speaker 2 (29:05):
Again, we've talked before, if the Reds want to have
a chance, then they need to be building around Ellie
de la Cruz because Ellie deserves to play in the postseason.
Ellie deserves to play on Sunday Night baseball. Ellie deserves
to compete for a World Series. And if they're not
getting that done while he's here, then you know, to
take any type of hometown discount or stay around Cincinnati
is going to be hard to do if you're not

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willing to build a championship team around him.

Speaker 3 (29:28):
I do know that the Reds have talked to Ellie
about an extension. Nick Kral said that a couple of
weeks ago, maybe a month or two ago, that they've tried,
like they've tried to reach out to Ellie and his
people and just see where they're at, and they're not
really in the same ballpark because of what Tony just
mentioned was Scott Boris. Now, I don't think there's there

(29:48):
has never been anything specifically said that he only wants
to play for those two ball clubs. But it does
make sense because they're, you know, the few teams that
can actually or will actually be able to afford him.

Speaker 15 (30:00):
So yeah, I did agree, though exactly the article he
showed me that he specifically said, uh no, and like
I said, it's in the Hambleton Journal anyway, know that
he will only play for the Dodgers and the Yankees.
And I said, well, I listened to the show all
the time, and I've never heard you know, Long say anything,

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you know anything about that article.

Speaker 3 (30:25):
I'm assuming that's how McCoy's opinion that he would only
play for those Yeah.

Speaker 2 (30:29):
Which again makes sense because of his star power and
wanting to maximize that. But again, you've still got a
couple of years. But if you want any chance at this,
you've got to build a championship contender around him, and
I just don't think they've They've obviously done that with
Ella yet.

Speaker 15 (30:46):
Well, my answer to my friend is I'm still not
gonna I'm not going to trade him out of him.
That's right, exactly, all right, guys, Hey, thanks for taking
my call.

Speaker 2 (30:59):
Thank you. I appreciate the call. Yeah, it's Scott Boris.
He's he's not going to take a team friendly Reds
deal to get something done. Now, I am he's going
to take him to free agents.

Speaker 3 (31:09):
I am reading the article that he's talking about right
now and he he how McCoy says, De la Cruz
already has said he wants to play for the Yankees
or the Dodgers, which I guess that's true. He has
been asked about that in the past and said he
would love to play for those teams. I don't know
that it was like I'm going to play for them
next other than just like he asked.

Speaker 5 (31:30):
Yeah, Mike is calling in. What's up? Mike?

Speaker 13 (31:35):
Hey guys, congrats one more time.

Speaker 11 (31:38):
Thanks Mike, you know you deserve it.

Speaker 13 (31:41):
And uh, I'll tell you that last caller. I love him.
He must have been around my age. I was heartbroken
too when Frank Robinson left. There was some controversy at
the time that they had found a gun in his
car or some kind of racial full craft. They ran
him out of town. But uh, what does he do?
He goes over to the Orioles and next year and

(32:02):
wins the Triple Crown, which never happens.

Speaker 5 (32:05):
Yep.

Speaker 13 (32:06):
Then and he plays alongside probably the most underrated center
fielder I've ever seen in baseball period, mister Vada Penson.
Vada Penson checks him out just as smooth as center
fielder as you'll ever see, left hand or little guy,
tremendous player, and it just brings back memories of old
Crosley Field. And everybody talks about Wrigley Field and Fenway Park.

(32:28):
Let me tell you, crosley Field had every bit of
as much charisma either one of those I've ever had.
It was really a cool place downtown. Well what happens?
The Padres don't part around, do they?

Speaker 6 (32:40):
No?

Speaker 5 (32:40):
No, they.

Speaker 13 (32:43):
We already got a solid bullpen, but they say we
can be better. We'll get Mason Miller. Then we need
a left handed starter we'll get We'll get him too
from the eighth. Then we really need a true first
basements that they picked up Brian o'harm from the Oriols,
who's on base percentage is really really good. And then
they pick up Ramon Loreano, who's a tremendous center fielder

(33:05):
or outfielder. Andywhere very fast and great clubs. And then
the Dodgers go ahead and say our bullpen's always hurt.
They pick up rock Stewart from the Twins, get a
two point three eight e er, and then they get
this Alex call out. So you know my point, and
I'm just so pissed off.

Speaker 2 (33:22):
I mean, there are folks around Major League Baseball now
that view of the Padres have the best bullpen in baseball,
and they did so again on the heels of a
five game winning streak. They're just three back of the
Dodgers going into the deadline. They are a they're a
very scary lineup, but they got better where they needed to.
There were holes or weaknesses on the roster, and they

(33:46):
fixed it. Their bullpen now is by many accounts, better
than what the Dodgers have. They've been near the Dodgers
for much of the year. Now they have a chance
to be better because they took away the holes that
are in their lineup.

Speaker 13 (34:00):
Yeah, and this is what you've got to do, right,
if you're serious, I mean you're yes, you just have
to be serious. So I don't know if we'll ever
get out of this.

Speaker 16 (34:09):
And then the excuses small market team, small market team,
a small marketing we can't afford anything, Well, you can't
do anything, Well, then get another one. We're never going
to get anyway with Castelini.

Speaker 13 (34:20):
It's not Crawl. I don't know if it's Crawls fault,
but Casteline is the one with the money, right.

Speaker 2 (34:26):
It's it's hard to not know the the instricacies of
how things are divvied up in the front office or
how much freedom that that Nick Krawl has. But again,
it just they made moves, but the moves didn't make
as much sense as you like. Again, I I equated
to the Padres because the Padres had glaring needs and

(34:48):
they addressed the glaring needs. I don't know if you
can say that the Reds addressed glaring needs that they've
had through this portion of the season.

Speaker 13 (34:55):
It's kind of what the Chargers did last night. My boy,
Trey LANs is very impressive.

Speaker 5 (34:59):
Yeah, that's looked great.

Speaker 13 (35:01):
Yeah, so what are the Chargers do? They go out?

Speaker 17 (35:03):
They needed a.

Speaker 13 (35:04):
Solid backup quarterback and I don't know Jim Harball and
knows a lot more than I know. Ye, so yeah,
he looks solid and that defense looked tough. They had
a lot of good young players. I enjoyed watching the game.
I thought it was fun.

Speaker 2 (35:14):
Yeah, it was fun for base or for football to
be back, especially when the Reds were down eleven three
and then they were able to figure it out a
little bit. But no doubt, it's great to have football back.
And uh and I think Austin you mentioned yesterday that
that's that's the first and now last Thursday. We're gonna
be without football for quite some time.

Speaker 13 (35:31):
Yep, I know Austin's got a woody. It's baseball, it's
it's football.

Speaker 5 (35:36):
Team feels like football out there, Mike, see you later. Thanks,
Mike Lee. What a phone call.

Speaker 2 (35:47):
Uh, let's take one more phone call on that. Dick
is calling in, Hew, what's up Dick?

Speaker 11 (35:53):
Hey, I feel real honored. First time I talked to
a Hall of famers since I got to talk with
Joe Morgan.

Speaker 5 (35:58):
Oh whoa aang.

Speaker 18 (36:01):
But I've got to comment a little bit in defense
of Barry Larkin. My seventy six year old mind remembers
a book I read, probably thirty or more years ago
by David Halberstam Summer of forty nine, which chronicled the
Yankees Red Sox Tennant race. And I believe in that
book he actually quoted one of the Yankees saying that

(36:24):
they would get fined if they hit a home run
to break, and they broke because they broke up a rally.
And it seemed to me that last night, maybe that
home run by Spencer Stear just that.

Speaker 5 (36:36):
What about the home run by key Brian Hayes in
the same inning.

Speaker 18 (36:40):
Yeah, I realized that, and he kind of got things
going because he never hits one. But you know, hey,
but you gotta look at Spencer Steer after that, no outs,
no one on base, nothing happened the rest of the game.

Speaker 3 (36:54):
Yeah, I mean, I look at that, and I'm thinking
they just had eight straight hits, so eventually they're going
to make them out, just like the way baseball works,
No kidding, I get you there.

Speaker 18 (37:04):
Of course, you got to remember the Yankees then won
that series, went into the World Series, and in that
five game World Series against the Dodgers.

Speaker 11 (37:11):
They only hit two home runs. Yeah that's one of them,
you know, walk off in the bottom of the ninth.

Speaker 5 (37:16):
Is about to say.

Speaker 3 (37:17):
It was also a very different game because back then
people were just hitting singles all over the place. They
were actually real hitters right there, instead of guys a
bunch of guys trying to hit homers.

Speaker 11 (37:27):
Yep. Yeah, I wouldn't that be great if the Reds
did have a bunch of hitters.

Speaker 5 (37:31):
Yeah, amen to that. Yes, any hitters, Dick, thank you man.

Speaker 11 (37:36):
Hitters, you're right, home run, singles.

Speaker 5 (37:38):
Doubles, two cares, anything but walk. I don't care.

Speaker 11 (37:43):
Absolutely get on base.

Speaker 5 (37:44):
Yes, thanks Dick, Thank you man.

Speaker 11 (37:47):
Pleasure talking to the Hall of Famer.

Speaker 2 (37:49):
Well, thank you, appreciate that. That is, that's good stuff.
Reds make it through the top half of the first
Brady Singer sits down the braves in order. Red's coming
to bat. We will I'm back, we'll finish up hour
number one, and then we'll throw it to Charlie Goldsmith
who's at the ballpark.

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Speaker 3 (39:12):
Tony, I just got some breaking news in my Twitter mentions.

Speaker 5 (39:18):
You know, each day.

Speaker 3 (39:19):
On on my account, I post the link to the
show inviting people to listen, which I you know. I
know you're a Hall of Famer and everything, but you
should do that sometimes. Yes, uh, this guy and I
said that you can listen anywhere on planet Earth or
in the galaxy with the iHeartRadio app. And our guy,

(39:40):
Johnny replied Johnny said he is currently listening from Wales.

Speaker 19 (39:46):
What.

Speaker 3 (39:48):
I don't know how to pronounce the name of the city.
He's in Abersoak A b E R s O C
h Abersoch. I don't know Wales. Wow, So shout out
to Wales man. We're huge in Wales.

Speaker 2 (40:06):
It's our guy, Johnny and Wales big Whales contingent.

Speaker 3 (40:09):
Yeah, listening to the show. We should have some people
compete to see how far away they can listen to
us from. Yeah, how about A I would imagine Scott
Sloane listened from Australia.

Speaker 2 (40:18):
He was just in Australia, down under, so down under.
Shout out to Johnny Man. How would you How would
you decipher the early voting for our Revive Fitness Systems
dot com pole question?

Speaker 3 (40:31):
Revite Fitness Systems dot Com Pole question? What grade would
you give the reds for the trade deadline? Fifty six
point nine percent? Say C twenty two percent, say B
one and a half percent, say A nineteen and a
half percent, say D so C running away with it,
which is kind of just indicative of the franchise in

(40:51):
and of itself.

Speaker 5 (40:51):
How did you How would you vote? I would vote
D I think so too.

Speaker 6 (41:00):
I don't think so.

Speaker 5 (41:02):
I said, I think so, and then you said I
don't think so. Which is it? D okay?

Speaker 2 (41:09):
I mean there was part of me that was happy
that they were actually doing something on deadline day, right,
but not one of the moves had me really excited.

Speaker 3 (41:19):
Cabrian Hayes chronic back issues, Yep, he's cheap moving forward,
so I get that, and a really good glove. Okay,
but you have Sal Stewart coming up. Where's he gonna play?
Uh miel and aharr, he's a free agent after this year, okay.

Speaker 5 (41:37):
And then Zach Lyttel mm hmm. Sure everything they did
was literally for me.

Speaker 3 (41:45):
Yeah, yeah, I want to know if I heard Charlie say,
and my quest, my biggest question for Charlie is because
he said that he respected, at the very least respected
the key Brian Hayes' acquisition because it showed a commitment
to their vision and to their plan. I would like

(42:07):
to know what exactly the plan is, Like, how would
you describe the plan?

Speaker 5 (42:13):
I'd probably say it's indescribable.

Speaker 3 (42:15):
Because he knows these people, and he's down there every
day and he knows it much better than I do.
But like, explain the plan to me, like I'm five
years old. That's my question for Charlie at one o'clock. Okay,
I think we should kick off questions with that for Charlie.
When we take Charlie, you think he'll like walk around
the ballpark for us, they try to go get a

(42:36):
hot dog.

Speaker 5 (42:36):
I don't know what he'll be doing.

Speaker 11 (42:37):
You know.

Speaker 3 (42:37):
I walked around the ballpark last night for like two
innings trying to find chicken tenders.

Speaker 5 (42:42):
Yeah. I couldn't find any man, but just had a
hankering for a tender.

Speaker 3 (42:46):
There was people like three rows ahead of me that
had him, and I was like, oh, they must be close.
I couldn't find him anywhere. Yeah, I've been to twenty
games this year. How did I not know? How do
I not know?

Speaker 20 (42:57):
Where?

Speaker 2 (42:58):
What your record is in games this year? Nine and
eleven thirteen. I think that's more than twenty games.

Speaker 5 (43:03):
I know.

Speaker 3 (43:04):
I was just saying, Okay, I think I'm nine and thirteen. Yeah,
that's under five hundred in three different states. Now when
you travel, how are they one and one on the
road and a big one looming to a big neutral
site game tomorrow in the fourth state. Okay, all right,

(43:24):
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he's watching Brady's singer right now, pitch and he's talking

(45:31):
to us.

Speaker 21 (45:32):
Hi, Charlie, mister Hall of Famer. Congratulations.

Speaker 5 (45:35):
Thank you, Charlie.

Speaker 2 (45:36):
I genuinely appreciate that, and I appreciate you making time
for us today while the game is happening and a
very important part of the game going on right now.

Speaker 21 (45:47):
Yeah, the bases loaded. Here him in a back hallway
so I can get the audio night.

Speaker 11 (45:51):
You know, coming in from the ballpark.

Speaker 21 (45:52):
But there's a TV here.

Speaker 6 (45:54):
I would like to say.

Speaker 21 (45:54):
One more Hall of Fame thing though that the congratulations
is from me as a friend, it's also for me
as someone who uh, somewhere I could find it. There's
a photo of a ten year old knee and you wow, somewhere.

Speaker 2 (46:09):
I need this photo, you see, I need the photo
and we need you to sign it. We need to
put that in the studio.

Speaker 5 (46:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (46:18):
Sure that goes up. Make a few copies. Yeah, that
goes up in this studio.

Speaker 5 (46:22):
Charlie.

Speaker 2 (46:23):
Was a tough one last night, something I've never seen before.
An eight run top of the eighth followed by an
eight run bottom of the eighth. To go through a
game like that, remarkable on both sides, but to come
up on the wrong side and the tenth inning. How
devastating of a loss?

Speaker 6 (46:37):
Does that?

Speaker 5 (46:37):
Does that feel like? From the clubhouse?

Speaker 21 (46:40):
I just look at it as a continuation of when
they don't play clean baseball, they don't win. I just
look at it from that standpoint. Sure there's an effect,
but these guys showed up at nine in the morning
and the biggest thing that was on their mind was
probably the quick turnaround and the upcoming trip to Bristol
more than it was the the quote unquote devastating off
last but the theme that continued now that Brian Hayes

(47:03):
should help but obviously a tough day for him defensively yesterday,
But then you know McLain had to play. You looked
at the corner outfield spots all season. I just view
that game mostly through the prison as, first of all,
just incredible until I'll remember it. But then the importance
of defense and kind of following through from an execution
standpoint on the vision and the type of team they

(47:24):
want to be.

Speaker 2 (47:26):
Charlie, what what do you make from an overall standpoint
of what the Reds were able to get accomplished at
the deadline and what they ultimately gave up at the deadline.

Speaker 21 (47:36):
So on on Power Stacks, you know the podcast they
do is Brian Gaisen Squaw. We identified the four p's
of the Reds tradeline trade deadline strategy. They were positivity, power, payroll,
and Padres.

Speaker 15 (47:51):
So let's positivity.

Speaker 11 (47:54):
And I'll rattle through these real quick.

Speaker 21 (47:56):
But the team said, we want you to make a
move for an office in the front office. Well, they
weren't the most aggressive team. I think both sides saw
it as following through on that idea, committing to who
they were, entrenching themselves as buyers. Now they the next
piece is Padres, because when you look at how much
better San Diego got, when you look at the needs

(48:17):
specifically from a getting to the third P power standpoint
that the red didn't address, that could significantly impact what
they sent out. Well, it's how the race looks like
going forward. You know, I wouldn't have been surprised or
maybe probably you know, the Reds could have had conversations
about Ramon Loreano and Ryan O'Hearn and now they're going
to be helping the Padres win games instead of helping
the Reds wing games. Then the fourth piece payroll, because

(48:39):
one thing that I don't think you can stress enough
from this deadline is that the red included Taylor Rodgers
and the Cabrian Hayes deal and then Pittsburg just ended
up being able to flip him for a prospect. The
fact that the Reds had to make the money pretty
much even in that deal and only took on about
three million dollars in payroll, it sounds like they didn't
have a ton of flexibility and that really handicaps what

(49:00):
you're able to do. So payroll is certainly a part
of this conversation you have to factor in as well.

Speaker 3 (49:06):
I was listening to you and Brian talk about it,
and you said that you respect the key Brian Hayes
trade because it is a commitment to their vision. Can
you explain to me and to our listeners, as if
they are seven years old, what is the Red's vision
and can they actually do it given what you just

(49:33):
talked about in the payroll and the other piece.

Speaker 21 (49:37):
Yeah, I don't know, I don't know if they can
actually do it. At the end of the day, the
Reds are going to just have to live and die
with these young guys, this young core that's the business
they're in. The Reds plan in every single market is athletic,
dynamic defense and then swing decisions, quality at bats, being
able to drive the ball in the gaps. They prioritize

(49:58):
those skills in quite little really every area. In twenty
twenty two, when they decided to sell to Coeo, you know,
they prioritize the package that got them Marque who at
the time is the shortstop and Edwin Royo their last
like the international for agent class that they got. They
made this big deal to get this kid a Ponte
I believe it's his name. He's this slick, fielding, defensive

(50:19):
shortstop like they drafted steel Hall just now in the
first round. Because he sets that idea. They are doubling
and tripping, tripling down on a very specific archetype that
they believe gives them the best chance to win. The
Rents are never going to be the best power hitting
team in baseball, even if they just got the best
sluggers at all these spots, because the best power hitters

(50:40):
are going to be guys who are kind of in
their primes superstars. That's the game.

Speaker 11 (50:46):
The mess. The Yankees, the.

Speaker 21 (50:47):
Cubs, teams like that are playing when you have a
limited payroll. They've concluded that you can't beat those teams
at your own game. What you can do is pivot
and take on a different identity and kind of excel
at what you do. So they're categories and qualities and
characteristics that make the Reds kind of an easy team
to quote unquote mock draft for, even in a situation

(51:08):
like the trade deadline. I also think a big part
of the story is alignment between the player acquisition there
and then how Terry Francona manages this team. I mean,
you know, neede me to go through a clean baseball defense, routine,
plays playing the right way. We've been talking about this
all season. So that alignment is good. They've got another
step to take. They've got multiple steps to take if

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they want to reach the ultimate goal. But there is
cohesion in what they're trying to do. The execution on
all sides among all parties just has to be a
little better.

Speaker 3 (51:40):
Can they legitimately compete in today's baseball with a team
that doesn't make power a priority?

Speaker 21 (51:51):
Again, like I don't know the Guardians did under Terry Francona.
That's something I also don't think they be priorities power
like Tobrian Hayes for example. I talked to Chris Flaky
yesterday and they think he might be hitting the ball
on the ground too much. They're going to try to
work with him to maybe start elevating the ball. It
is hitter by hitter. They weren't telling Ces to try

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to be Shogolakiyama like it's hit her by hitter. But overall, collectively, yes,
that's the vision. When you play like that, you don't
have a margin for air. You have to commit and
stay consistent with a very specific style. That makes coaching
massively important. That makes players about making the same mistake
twice massively important. What they were doing previously also wasn't

(52:36):
working either. They do have talent here, and again they're
very committed to this idea.

Speaker 2 (52:42):
Charlie, how how big does today's game feel? I know
we try to simplify and go game to game, but
it felt like one got away from there against the
Dodgers in game two of that series. Obviously, what happened
last night, You're getting ready to head to Bristol. The
margin right now in the wild card is three and
a half. We know what the other teams did at
the deadline. How massive does today feel to try to

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get a win here and have the opportunity to win
this series tomorrow.

Speaker 21 (53:09):
At some point you just got to win, right you're
at that point of the season. What's interesting about where
the rights you're at right now too, is for a
team that's contending, that's feeling positively, they just have a
lot of moving pieces and questions right now. For example, today,
after using four relievers last night, what's the state of
the bullpen like today from a high leverage availability standpoint?

(53:30):
You know, we'll see that's important directly. I'll kind of
have a position player walg Gym as well, where they've
got seven outfielders and like only two of Marte Lucks
Freightly and Benson I believe can be in the lineup
against right handed pitching. Like who's in what role? Who's
playing where? There's just a lot that this team has
to kind of learn right now on the fly while

(53:52):
playing some critically important games, you know, and then like
Marque's in right field? What is hunt of Green right now?
What is Andrew Hall right now?

Speaker 19 (54:00):
Coming in?

Speaker 21 (54:00):
Can you work on some adjustments with to Brian Hayes,
Like there's just all this stuff. You know, how do
you use Nick Martinez that they have to figure out
now while they're playing these urgent games.

Speaker 2 (54:12):
Let's switch gears for a moment here, Charlie. An off
day for the Bengals today. They meant to move inside
yesterday because of the rain. But there's been a lot
of conversation about practices ending, and I know you alluded
to it yesterday. Yesterday was about the coverage for the Bengals.
We've talked about the defensive line applying some pressure last year.
I felt like I did, at least for me, a

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little bit of the same, and then the defense came
out and they weren't good during the season. Have you
seen anything during this early portion of camp that would
lead you to believe what you're seeing right now from
the defense will translate better during the regular season.

Speaker 21 (54:48):
No, I haven't, because of the shower taste in your
mouth almost with a lot of these players from a
regular season standpoint, plus the complexities of implementing a new
scheme and all that. Now you have to start somewhere.
I wrote yesterday, like you need something to tape up
on your fridge in the places that these defensive backs

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are making I think, really help from a culture perspective,
because they're letting some leaders kind of step up as
they celebrate and kind of collectively revel in those moments.
You're seeing guys help leading making adjustments that are translating
into a positive confidence boost for this defense. Is this
defense going to be very good? I have no idea,

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and I've told myself I'm not letting myself come to
any conclusions until October because of just how it looked
last season and how little they did just to improve
the roster from a talent perspective. But it's truly got
to start somewhere, and this is a very very tangible
start that they can point to.

Speaker 2 (55:46):
What is the biggest positive you would say up to
this point in camp that you've witnessed for this team.

Speaker 21 (55:53):
I'll go with TJ. Slayton. I'll start with that, Like
there's just a presence that he carries defensively in two
more guys Josh Newton than Jordan Battle. When you look
for young leaders, when you look for guys being vocal,
when you look at guys who are our tone setters
in that way, they just feel very comfortable in being
where they are like a big difference this year like

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last year. And part of this was kind of how
Louen and Remote structured it. Part of that was what
these veterans had earned. But there was a big curtain
almost between what the veterans were, how much they were empowered,
their role, their voting, this their ability to say certain
things in the room, and then the young guys were
kind of in their own separate camp in terms of

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kind of how again the lines were totally distinct, and
it's a lot more opportunity meritocracy, and you're seeing Battle
and Newton really kind of step up and shine in
that way. And that's been my favorite part of camp,
just seeing them each get more and more kind of
like they're getting a role in terms of figuring out
who they are. And I mean, I think Josh Newton

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starts for this team.

Speaker 2 (57:00):
I've loved what we've seen from Josh Newton. I loved
seeing DJ Turner bounce back after a rough couple of
days and have the day that he was able to
have yesterday. If I flipped the question for you at
this point in camp, and it's hard because they've only
had full pads for a couple of days, We've not
seen a ton of the one on one they're not tackling.
But where's your biggest level of concern?

Speaker 22 (57:20):
Not with this team the offensive line, fair Child, he's
hanging his hat, he's carrying the lunch pail, just watching
him like an individual drill.

Speaker 21 (57:31):
The strength and power does pop. But then when you
look at what's happening specifically up front in the trenches,
and then also factor in just Cody Ford being Cody Ford.
We know who Cody Ford is. You also look at
the fact that the offensive guard battle haven't even started
because Lucas Patrick was playing center because Matt Lee was hurt.
They needed a second person who could snap the ball,

(57:51):
and then Patrick got hurt. And I mean, I have
no idea who this second team offensive line is going
to be. They're all kind of the same. They're all
guys who the team hasn't.

Speaker 11 (58:02):
Invested much in.

Speaker 21 (58:04):
None of them have any sort of track record in
the NFL, none of them have any sort of like, oh,
you can hang your hat on this. I kind of
like Jalen Rivers the most just because like he's kind
of sturdy, he moves well, and he just has a
professionalism about him. Just kind of when you look him
in the eye and talk to him from a coaching perspective.
But it's not like you can come in a fifth
round pick, saving this offensive line depth and you're one

(58:26):
injury away from being Jalen Rivers or Devin Cochran or
who knows. Literally it could be eight guys stepping into
these active game day roles. I'm worried about that right now,
especially if they have one more injury and you need
one of those second teams.

Speaker 2 (58:40):
It makes you worry even more because of the guy
that they're protecting. Joe Burrow has been very open about
how he feels at camp. I loved him talking the
other day about just how good the ball feels and
what he's able to do now there's no restrictions, there's
no injury that he's coming off of, there's there's no pandemic.
He's got all his well at his disposal. How much

(59:02):
can you just see from watching him the confidence that
is exuding from Joe Burrow right now throwing past us.

Speaker 21 (59:08):
I mean you see just these wow moments, like I
hope this doesn't really show up on video, but like
you know, you've got a bunch of people in videotaping
these plays, and you know, we all watch the highlights
and that's a lot of fun. And I know there
have been a couple of times where I've kind of
been caught or exposed, like literally laughing as he throws
the ball because he has some sort of idea and
it's kind of like a silly little laugh and he's like, man,

(59:29):
that's great, And I hope that that sound doesn't show
up on video. But there's like a true audible reaction
to some of these throws that are just a treat.
I'd like to add this too. I mean, Jake Browning
looks like a starter. He's actually a guy who has
also played poorly, just fat up poorly in training camp
during his career. He's just a gamer. You know, he

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was so bad two years ago that they brought in
Will Reer to try to take his place as the backup.
Now that changed, what a story. Brown improved himself all
that kind of stuff. But I mean, this seems like
I got to who's just even improved since twenty twenty three.
And I think Jake will be a starter in the
league somewhere next year. And we've talked about these flashes
you're seeing from Charlie Jones, Areadiah Williams, Jermaine Burton. Well

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Brown is a big part of that. And I've been
very impressed with the campes have it.

Speaker 2 (01:00:17):
Uh Noah Fan is a Cincinnati Bengal. Uh in your opinion,
how massive of a signing in this and how can
Noah Fan help this offense?

Speaker 21 (01:00:27):
Well, two point conversion against Baltimore last year, the ball
went to Tanner Hudson and nothing against Tanner, but no offense.
A better player to have him that spot in Tanner Hudson.
You know, I can think of five or six specific catches,
like I can think of one very specific fumble that
Tanner Hudson had last year. That's a perfect example of
Tanner Hudson trying to get up field and exposing the
ball and maybe costing the Bengals a game that's no

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offense game. The signing singles signals to me that Mike
is sick. He's even more of a wide receiver than
we're even thinking. That's just going to be how they
kind of move him around. Obviously, the inline presence just
didn't work out. And then it was an idea maybe
they had heading into last season. But leading more to that,
I don't know that he changes you are as a blocker,

(01:01:09):
but he gives you that option to have Gizicky just
more truly in the flocks. And again the role matters.
As we saw it with Tayner Hudson. I went through
a fan film. I saw a lot of screams. I
saw a lot of yak I saw a lot of
hitches get up the field. It kind of reminds me
of the Hayden Hurst in his ability to do all.

Speaker 2 (01:01:26):
That the running back room. Zach Moss is no longer
a Cincinnati Bengal. You have Chase Brown, you have some
a JP round, and you have Todzs Brooks. What can
you say, uh, to this point of training camp of
what you've seen from the running back group for the Bengals, Well.

Speaker 21 (01:01:43):
You know, like let's say three times Chase Brown, Chase Brown,
Chase Brown. I mean, it's just incredible. It's funny too,
Like I was joking about this, So I'm working on
a story on Chase Brown right now. And I interviewed
Ted Caris about Chase after the third day of camp,
and I realized and I made the joke to Ted,
like actually literally a year ago. I was interviewing you
right now about the leap we're seeing from Chase Brown,

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and here we are talking about Chase Brown making just
as big of a leap because right now, like Chase
Brown was the buzzy camp at this point last year,
but for him to even exceed those expectations and now
enter twenty twenty five with even higher expectations, big focus
with him almost even his third down routes and opportunities
in the passing game that he's proven he's ready for
Pee Ryan's going to be third and long screens, maybe

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a couple of power runs. We all know exactly who
that is. Brooks cuts very constantly, and I think that
in a year from now we could talk about him
having a role or at the very least if an
injury happens. Now the Bengals don't have to make a
panic trade for a running back like they did last season. Now,
RB four, if they would ever need it, I don't
think is in the building right now. So that's not great,

(01:02:48):
But from a top three perspective, I think this is
far and away the best top three when you factor
in just whole room. All right, So twenty twenty was
mixing and Bernard but like trebut Williams was that number three,
So I wasn't a ton of confidence there. But no,
like if you put in Brooks a number three and
give kind of him that factor in this conversation, like, yeah,
this is the best top three they've had.

Speaker 5 (01:03:09):
Are you going to Bristol?

Speaker 23 (01:03:12):
I'm not.

Speaker 21 (01:03:13):
I just I was decided between Bristol and Chicago, and
because it was right after the trade deadline, I wanted
to really be able to spend some time around the
team and the exact and stuff like that, and then
I'll go to the practice on Saturday and get that
in as well before I spent a few days with
the Reds.

Speaker 5 (01:03:28):
Fair enough, You ever grow up watching Nascar, You ever
have a favorite driver?

Speaker 24 (01:03:33):
You know?

Speaker 21 (01:03:34):
Nascar is a massive blind spot? Told me so much
so that like what THEU of mine. There was like
an arcade game that was around that was like trivia,
and then there would be Nascar trivia, and I remember
we got very competitive with it, and the NASCAR Trivia
was like no, because none.

Speaker 20 (01:03:49):
Of us had it.

Speaker 21 (01:03:51):
So that's that's all I got. So it's funny, like
if you had asked me a question and it was
one of those questions that might bring a bell because
we played that game a million times and tried to
memorize the answers.

Speaker 20 (01:03:59):
But that's all I've got on NASCAR.

Speaker 21 (01:04:01):
But I'm very excited to watch Steven. I love the
idea of bringing baseball the new place.

Speaker 2 (01:04:05):
Charlie, you're the best man. Thank you so much for
your time while you're at the ballpark. Enjoy the game
today and have a great weekend. We always appreciate your time.
Hey guys, Yes, Charlie Goldsmith from Great American Ballpark, where
the game heads to the top of the fourth in
a zero zero tie.

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Speaker 3 (01:05:31):
I just had a random thought I wanted to share
just watching the Reds game in here, I saw Key
Brian Hayes running after a foul ball and he's wearing
number three, which of course was last worn by Jamer
Candelario last night. Key Brian Hayes first at bat.

Speaker 14 (01:05:48):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (01:05:48):
Oh, Jamber Candelario pops up on the screen. Oh boy,
oh boy, that was funny.

Speaker 2 (01:05:56):
Potter and doctor Pike, good morning, a little late to
the Hall of Fame news. Congrats Tony, You're always going
to be the Michael Jordan of gutter Keels. Wow, my goodness,
Oh my god, you're a Hall of Famer and a doctor.

Speaker 21 (01:06:09):
Now body Thomas going.

Speaker 25 (01:06:12):
Off at this, Juli Cofin the can ennerfries Tony. I
just want to say, congratulations, man.

Speaker 6 (01:06:18):
That's a long time coming, way over due.

Speaker 11 (01:06:20):
I remember growing up.

Speaker 25 (01:06:22):
I was nine ten years old, man. My earliest days
of the Bearcast was watching you out on that field
doing your thing, coming down.

Speaker 26 (01:06:29):
Before the game, making that pregame line for future Bearcast.

Speaker 25 (01:06:33):
T shirts, kind of paving the way for young fans like.

Speaker 11 (01:06:36):
Me that ended up being Bearcats.

Speaker 20 (01:06:37):
Man.

Speaker 25 (01:06:38):
Congratulations Tony, well done.

Speaker 5 (01:06:40):
Man, appreciate that.

Speaker 27 (01:06:44):
Greg Sharonville, congratulations Tony.

Speaker 5 (01:06:48):
Oh well deserved.

Speaker 27 (01:06:51):
Key Bryan was drafted in twenty fifteen, is twenty eight
years old and has literally done nothing offensively. No other
head scratcher by Nick.

Speaker 5 (01:07:03):
Krawl Amen, Brother.

Speaker 24 (01:07:07):
Tony, and Austin Kin from the lex Here in the
Lexington hero Lader, there's a comic strip that runs every
day and it's called crank Shaft. I don't know if
you have it up there in Cincinnati, but today's cartoon
mentions an old friend of yours. I won't say who
it is, maybe someone else can inform you, but check

(01:07:32):
it out.

Speaker 6 (01:07:32):
You can probably find it online. What a too day
go ride?

Speaker 5 (01:07:36):
What a teaseeray? Fuck man b.

Speaker 28 (01:07:39):
Jeels the double dip Tony do you smell that?

Speaker 25 (01:07:46):
That's August? First? High school football is back this month, baby, man,
you already know we got a crazy Week one match up.
I'm expecting to see this on the pickums. You're beloved
reading Blue Devils and historic Reading Stadium concrete bleachers against that.

Speaker 2 (01:08:05):
Williams Veterans Memorial Stadium will host that one. That's a
lost for Williams work. My microphone just completely fell off again.

Speaker 3 (01:08:14):
Are you holding it? I'm holding it nice. I just
looked up the crank shaft.

Speaker 5 (01:08:18):
Oh.

Speaker 3 (01:08:19):
Is a man up at like a customs desk And
the guy behind the desk says, what is your reason
for visiting Canada? And the man says, I'm here to
see a Blue Bombers game. Oh, And the man behind
the desk says, and who's their quarterback? The other guy
goes Zach Kolaros, which the man says, you're good, okay,

(01:08:42):
And then one guy said he says to another guy
standing there, I passed the quarterback test, no pun intended. Okay,
that's not bad, Okay, Zach Kolaros in Okay.

Speaker 26 (01:08:54):
Happy pride to everybody, man with somebody cutting onions in
the studio yesterday a day for Tony Pike. Well, the
desire congratulates my friend. What an honor for you and
your family, Red legs. Could you imagine how great it
would be if they played and managed every game like
they were on the verge of being swept in a series?

(01:09:15):
Take care, everybody, have a fantastic weekend.

Speaker 5 (01:09:18):
That's a good point. They'd be pretty good because they
don't get swept. True. Oh, let's say let's.

Speaker 20 (01:09:30):
Crying out.

Speaker 5 (01:09:36):
All right, all right, boys, it's Friday Day. Let's do
the f Who's a better baseball player? Frank Thomas or
Frank Robinson? Simple, cut and dry.

Speaker 3 (01:09:46):
Who you got, man, I'm gonna say Frank Robinson. Really yeah,
now that's just gut reacts. Just because of my time
growing up, the Big Hurt was one of my favorite players. Yeah,
so I would go Frank Thomas in that one, how
dare you? But I would have to look like from this,
I would have to look at their stats after what
Greg and Sharonville said earlier today, for you to choose

(01:10:09):
Frank Thomas over him, that's blasphemous.

Speaker 2 (01:10:11):
Can you tell I'm trying to fix my mic? Yeah,
I can tell what's happening. I can tell.

Speaker 5 (01:10:15):
Yeah, this is not going well in here, and I
hope it's gonna be okay for James Stone and the
otter Box.

Speaker 8 (01:10:24):
Johnny Moon from the Ding. I want to take this
time to wish my two lovely kids, born two years
and one week apart, a happy fourth birthday Trevor, and
a happy second birthday to Tory. The Moon Mansion will
be rocking, and then later on that evening, don't come

(01:10:44):
and knock in if you get my drink by.

Speaker 2 (01:10:49):
By by t rev and ty Birthday, Tyler Anderson, Congratulations
turning on your Hall of Fame induction.

Speaker 29 (01:10:58):
Start bench sit ice cream and milkshakes, doughnuts and pastries,
steak and chicken, go right.

Speaker 5 (01:11:08):
Legs, start and steak and chicken. I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:11:11):
I'll start ice cream. I'm benching ice cream. I'll bench
steak and chicken, and I'll cut the pastries. Doughnuts and pastries.

Speaker 20 (01:11:21):
It's the Lord from the pearly Gates in the sky.

Speaker 6 (01:11:25):
Would you rather.

Speaker 20 (01:11:26):
Lose one to nothing or twelve to eleven?

Speaker 5 (01:11:31):
Twelve to eleven. Yeah, at least there's a little I.

Speaker 30 (01:11:34):
Almost had the perfect sports day yesterday.

Speaker 5 (01:11:37):
Check this out.

Speaker 30 (01:11:38):
First, Tony Pike makes the UC Hall of Fame. Really,
and we have the NFL's Hall of Fame game signifying
the beginning of football. Then we see FC Cincinnati take
down Monterey at TQL. Yeah, very impressive showing in the
league's cup opener. But who messes it all up the
Cincinnati Reds, who, after coming back with eight runs in
the eighth to tie it, losing extras in true Reds fashion.

(01:11:59):
But that's okay. We're going to enjoy the weekend anyways.
Let's not get swept.

Speaker 5 (01:12:03):
Let's go. We essentially lost the perfect game in the
ninth inning.

Speaker 17 (01:12:07):
Hello, this is former President Ronald Reagan wil Most of
the time, I try to stay humble, but I must
toot my own horn. For the month that I had,
July was a great month for the old Gipper. In fact,
to put it in perspective, Eli Da La Cruz only
had one more home run than I did for the
entire month.

Speaker 2 (01:12:28):
That's true.

Speaker 5 (01:12:29):
That's some data right there.

Speaker 6 (01:12:30):
Wow.

Speaker 7 (01:12:32):
Yeah, I was a real rough loss for the Rads
last night. I listened to it Andreo's crazy, both teams
scoring eight runs in the eighth inning. Ocho, try Facta.
You won't see that again for a minute. The Padres
did really help themselves. I mean they did maybe mortgage
the future a little bit, but I think it will

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be really hard for the Reds catcher.

Speaker 5 (01:12:59):
Yeah, it's gonna be Tony Pike.

Speaker 10 (01:13:01):
He's got UC pride, He's a Hall of Famer, he's
bona fide, like to Ben's water throw. Scariest flag he's
ever know. Brian Kelly had the call. He took us high.
He said goodbye. Hopies and Gaiters won't talk about that.
Or if you were just the Jacob Rogers merchant, do
you remembers if I didn't mansion the six or twelve
or the bangles stopping. From that standpoint, congratulations Tony an

(01:13:26):
h Of you always will be Wow.

Speaker 5 (01:13:31):
Wow, that was well done from that standpoint. Yeah, from
that standpoint, that's well done. That was Alex Alex Man Tony,
I'm a day late, but congratulations. He doesn't matter anymore.

Speaker 6 (01:13:42):
I'll deserved. It's over to the Hall of Fame. It's clear.
You see athletics and you see it in general.

Speaker 27 (01:13:48):
Want to be where they are today on the national
stage with value Man.

Speaker 3 (01:13:52):
Congratulations, well, thank you appreciate You're like Jalen Hurts.

Speaker 5 (01:13:57):
You've moved on from it.

Speaker 2 (01:13:58):
Yepady sick Club is ready.

Speaker 19 (01:14:04):
He's found my own a jersey.

Speaker 2 (01:14:05):
You had cross spaghetti.

Speaker 5 (01:14:06):
He's nevers but a third phase. He looks calm and ready.

Speaker 23 (01:14:09):
But he's choking.

Speaker 5 (01:14:10):
How everybody's scoring now?

Speaker 2 (01:14:12):
He stamped back to reality.

Speaker 16 (01:14:14):
The ghost Ky Brian, Oh, the boss Brian, the scoring lions.

Speaker 12 (01:14:17):
You yourself in.

Speaker 19 (01:14:19):
The moment the crowns you stamp Thanky Brian.

Speaker 2 (01:14:21):
You better own it.

Speaker 25 (01:14:22):
Own it.

Speaker 5 (01:14:22):
You only get one same on this, get.

Speaker 25 (01:14:24):
Your chance to hit this opportunity calling for a lifetime.

Speaker 2 (01:14:29):
That is so good. DJ Lance McAllister, I Poke, I
perk Banger.

Speaker 5 (01:14:36):
Hello, Hello, this is Ivan.

Speaker 19 (01:14:42):
I didn't know you you liked skateboards Austin. Back when
I was uh in uh junior high, I used to
ride my woody all the time.

Speaker 5 (01:14:57):
That's awesome. We share something in coming.

Speaker 19 (01:15:00):
Maybe come down to the even Deel Rec Center and
we can skate around the parking lot.

Speaker 5 (01:15:05):
Okay, Happy Friday, guys.

Speaker 31 (01:15:09):
Hey, Tone, I want to congratulate you on making the
Hall of Fame for the Bearcats long overdue, and in
celebration of that, in my statement six months ago that
I would not renew my UC football tickets until you
were inducted, I have gladly cut a check to the
UC Athletic Department the celebration of your enshrinement. Congrats, Tone,

(01:15:31):
I have a good trip, Boddie, bring them a winner?

Speaker 5 (01:15:33):
Thanks man. How about that Tony moving product for the Bearcats?
How about that?

Speaker 32 (01:15:38):
Hey, guys, Jeff and New Richmond, Happy Friday to Tony.
First of all, congratulations again on the Hall of Fame. Man,
It's totally awesome.

Speaker 5 (01:15:47):
Thank you.

Speaker 32 (01:15:48):
I'm so proud of you. I'll think I'm happy for
you and your family. As far as the Reds go,
I would give them a D slash F. I'd also
like to know if you guys have been seeing Duke
Tobin and Nick Krawl in the same room together, somebody
might be hiding.

Speaker 3 (01:16:07):
Some Oh you know, they should bring back, you know,
Tony Pike jerseys.

Speaker 5 (01:16:15):
Oh, get you a cut, Okay, I'm in.

Speaker 3 (01:16:18):
They would sell those bad boys like hotcakes, you know,
like the Bengals. Every year, whoever gets in the Ring
of Honor, they do like a run of their players jerseys.
You could do it with like a special patch you
see patch. We probably won't put the Orange Bowl or
Sugar Bowl patches on there, but just Biggie's patch. Yeah,
and you could sell some of that, make a little money.
Put that into the nil Dude Pike gets a slice.

(01:16:41):
Look I'm in if it's somewhere.

Speaker 32 (01:16:46):
Also, I wanted to give a quick shout out to
all the new talkbackers. It's great to hear you guys
on the radio. You guys are awesome. And then a
big shout out and thank you to may So Man,
You've been awesome. The content that you've brought, how about
that has really been great. So you guys have a

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great weekend. Take care.

Speaker 2 (01:17:09):
You know, he's not done anything where he's requested or
wanted a pat on the back. He's just trying to
provide content and we appreciate him.

Speaker 11 (01:17:17):
He's.

Speaker 33 (01:17:17):
My favorite stat about Noah Fan is that fifty of
his receiving yards come.

Speaker 6 (01:17:23):
After the kitchen.

Speaker 13 (01:17:24):
Yack.

Speaker 5 (01:17:25):
That's a nugget yack.

Speaker 34 (01:17:29):
Well, oh yeah, everybody, I'm your host, Harry Carry and
welcome to this edition of Hall.

Speaker 6 (01:17:38):
Of Fame Friday.

Speaker 5 (01:17:40):
Oh.

Speaker 34 (01:17:40):
Today we celebrate KP fifteen. Yeah, and the fact that
he didn't have to go in posthumously.

Speaker 6 (01:17:48):
We also celebrate those other.

Speaker 34 (01:17:50):
Great athletes they were number fifteen, like Davy Lopez.

Speaker 5 (01:17:58):
So good hair, earlbood.

Speaker 34 (01:18:01):
Row, George Foster, Jim Evans, tib Cheevo, Yeah, Buddy, Tim Hudson, Yeah,
Fred Russig, Hubbles, Joe Tory, Daniel Sterne Carmello, Anthles, congratulations, fifty.

Speaker 12 (01:18:30):
Fantastic Star, Hall of Famer, and Audie Ilmore.

Speaker 6 (01:18:37):
This is peg Lake.

Speaker 5 (01:18:38):
Pete's calling you, Odi.

Speaker 3 (01:18:40):
I heard you talking to Mike earlier and he said
that you had some wood now that football season was here.

Speaker 5 (01:18:46):
Well, brother, welcome to the fraternity. You know I got
a peg leg, don't you.

Speaker 3 (01:18:51):
And one of the pirates sayings is you always feel
the good when you're sporting some.

Speaker 35 (01:18:57):
Wood, yo, TP fifteen h O f QV for you
see what's happening.

Speaker 6 (01:19:07):
Yo, Audie.

Speaker 33 (01:19:08):
When you go down there in your in your NASCAR outfit,
make sure you carry around a big old cann of
bush light. Otherwise you might stick out and they might
see your bluffing. But if you carry around that big
old can of beer and you don't even have to
drink it, I know you said you don't drink anymore,
But just make sure that's part of your outfit, all right,
raise hail, praised Dale, don't say that.

Speaker 3 (01:19:28):
Oh yeah, you know I I raise halal. I'm trying
to figure out what exactly I want my outfit to be.
I'm struggling a little bit with it, but I'm I'm packed.
I have a go bag as soon as the show's
over today, split can't wait?

Speaker 36 (01:19:44):
Hey, Tom makes So usually weighs in on the whole
body of work, and well, Frank Robinson was the first
African American manager. The Big Hurt's been repping eugenics for
a while, so I think that tips the scale for
the Big Hurt. And by the way, she'll like.

Speaker 2 (01:19:57):
It too, nicely done a voice with an entry.

Speaker 24 (01:20:02):
Hey, that Joe Burrow presser the other day got spicy quick,
isn't it?

Speaker 2 (01:20:08):
Right out of the gate?

Speaker 24 (01:20:09):
Richard Skinner's like, Hey, Joe, you say you're throwing the
ball better than ever? What makes you say that? Joe
Burrows like you're there every day, aren't you?

Speaker 6 (01:20:19):
Oh? How that taste skinny? Hey?

Speaker 12 (01:20:23):
Can you guys imagine if Hobbs was a stand up comedian,
Picture him on stage he's like man walks into.

Speaker 19 (01:20:30):
A bomb.

Speaker 11 (01:20:34):
Tony Austin, Balling ain't easy, It's not Boning.

Speaker 31 (01:20:36):
Got off early on a Friday, headed down to North Lake.

Speaker 5 (01:20:39):
Wow, that's doing the show. Congrats Tony on the Hall
of Fame.

Speaker 26 (01:20:43):
Austin, thank you for being so gracious with your time
chatting chatting.

Speaker 11 (01:20:47):
With me at the game on Tuesday. Yeah, you guys
are the best. I hope you have a good weekend.

Speaker 5 (01:20:52):
Enjoy the weather. Alright, man head yeah lake Man.

Speaker 3 (01:20:57):
Balin was up there on the on the boat. Tie
b are so good. Good chatting with Balling. That's awesome.
All right, it was our last look. All right, we
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Speaker 5 (01:21:50):
I have a bunch of them saved. I see what
we got.

Speaker 14 (01:21:54):
Wrapping Ronnie here. Well, well, as we close after life,
it's that time of year. No matter how hard they try,
the Reds disappear. But they have other plants. They're back
in the race makers for kid about Burrow and chase me.
The Bengals signed Steward Tray is paying a fine, but
the Reds are rolling like it's nineteen ninety nine. If

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they falter to the Bengals, I will go through the
Berlin wallsnock bubbles in the nose.

Speaker 5 (01:22:23):
Love that.

Speaker 2 (01:22:24):
That's tough that, but you remember just how fun that
time was when that talk back was.

Speaker 5 (01:22:28):
It was tough givvy because the Reds were playing well.

Speaker 12 (01:22:32):
The Jungle pass your life us.

Speaker 28 (01:22:35):
There's a rookie now you have in the coaches jail
got scoot. Yeah, he's say just dumb and slow, but
marked down wheels.

Speaker 21 (01:22:49):
Now we said in the past.

Speaker 12 (01:22:51):
Flashing by stars.

Speaker 5 (01:22:55):
That, of course, in the tune of little boot Scoot
and buget.

Speaker 35 (01:22:58):
You're so good, mo not healthy with a double dip,
God have the quadruple dip, big back madness, egnock ice cream,
girl scout cookies, And that's that's probably really about it.

Speaker 2 (01:23:14):
Man, big bodada Mo out yep mo, well done man
four four four four four four four four four four
four four four four.

Speaker 6 (01:23:31):
Four games over five hundred.

Speaker 12 (01:23:37):
Shoot e Lea's gloves may never be gold. Yeah, his
clutch hits leave the other team's cold.

Speaker 5 (01:23:50):
Come on, Jeff, he's.

Speaker 12 (01:23:52):
Got games, the skills are rare, and he'll soon be.

Speaker 5 (01:24:01):
A millionaire.

Speaker 3 (01:24:03):
Gosh, that's really good, really good from Jeffrey our guy.

Speaker 29 (01:24:10):
Well, this is DJ as a everyday listener and proud
U see Alum. I'd be remiss if I didn't congratulate
my man, Tony Pike. Tony, congratulations on the Hall of Fame,
well deserved and thanks for representing. And I tune in
every day just to hear the good grammar.

Speaker 5 (01:24:34):
We'll play DJ oh super big.

Speaker 7 (01:24:37):
Congratulations Tony. I'm ready to run through snob.

Speaker 33 (01:24:41):
Bubbles with walls and I like the.

Speaker 7 (01:24:46):
Fans signing but obviously i'd rather see him get offensive lineman,
but would take it. The reds underwhelming, But Nick, I mean,
he's got to learn how to walk for you crawl.

Speaker 5 (01:25:00):
Gosh, that's great.

Speaker 3 (01:25:04):
I really like that one as well. I really like
that one as well. I believe we have two more
to get to before we choose a winner.

Speaker 6 (01:25:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:25:13):
I had to talk to product of it, you see,
I know, Tony, well, just not in public hall of Famer,
be a product of it.

Speaker 21 (01:25:21):
Yeah, a young woman from the city.

Speaker 13 (01:25:25):
You gotta love it.

Speaker 21 (01:25:26):
Yeah, yeah, you.

Speaker 15 (01:25:28):
Gotta love it.

Speaker 6 (01:25:30):
Congrass man, keep pussy.

Speaker 34 (01:25:33):
Keep going.

Speaker 5 (01:25:35):
I don't know who that was. That might be my favorite, Tony.

Speaker 11 (01:25:38):
I want to wish you sitting there.

Speaker 23 (01:25:39):
Congratulations, I'm making the University of Cincinnati Hall of Fame.
What an incredible accomplishment for you to share it with
your family. Remember this, Virtually nothing's impossible in this mort
if you just put your mind to it and maintain
a positive attitude. And that's exactly what you've done. Congratulations Tony.
And no, by the way, I'll make sure that that's
Brian Kelly and let him know the good.

Speaker 3 (01:26:02):
All right, that was it. Gosh, man, I have rapping Ronnie. Yeah,
I have Jeff in Virginia.

Speaker 2 (01:26:13):
These are getting more and more difficulties. You got the boots,
scoot and boogie.

Speaker 5 (01:26:19):
Yeah, el Ee's glow. I mean those are the ones
I have saved. What else do I have?

Speaker 6 (01:26:26):
And then.

Speaker 5 (01:26:28):
That's good? I thought the rap was good. My vote
goes to Jeff. I think, yeah, I'll i'll m. But
you're the Hall of Famer. It's your week, so you choose,
no Jeff.

Speaker 2 (01:26:41):
Jeff has been consistent as of late. He's been on
the cusp. He's been knocking on the door. And to
go to a Stapleton show like he did, he tagged us,
he sent a video and then to come back and
tie in a Stapleton song to Ellie Da La Cruz.

Speaker 5 (01:27:00):
Well done. Elie's glove may never be gold.

Speaker 12 (01:27:08):
His clutch hits leave the other team's cold. He's got game.

Speaker 5 (01:27:16):
Yeah, the skills are rare.

Speaker 12 (01:27:21):
And he'll soon be a millionaire.

Speaker 3 (01:27:26):
He used real words from the song yep and also
his own. It was honest about Ellie's glove not being great.

Speaker 5 (01:27:34):
Yeah, it was well done.

Speaker 3 (01:27:36):
I just that's an all around talkback winner as far
as I'm concerned. Well done, Jeff, Jeff, congratulations, gratulations, you're
our winner. Very good, uh, very good, finalists man, very good.

Speaker 15 (01:27:48):
Um.

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Welcome back. It's our number three. Just getting started. On
ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati Sports Station. You heard it right there,
thanks to our friends at Penn Station. It's Friday. It's
two o'clock and we got to talk some orangs in blue.
The Voice of FC Cincinnati joining us right now. Tom Gallader, Tommy, Tommy, Tommy,
what's happening.

Speaker 9 (01:28:34):
Tony, Tony, Tony, Happy Friday afternoon, Good to chat with you.
We are not talking orange and blue today, Well, maybe
we'll get there.

Speaker 6 (01:28:42):
We are not.

Speaker 9 (01:28:43):
We are caring forward the celebration of yesterday, oh twenty
five hours ago the great news delivered by John Cunningham
that Anthony Pike.

Speaker 6 (01:28:54):
Is a Hall of Famer. How about that. Congratulations, thank
you for having.

Speaker 9 (01:28:59):
Me someone stood there in the sidelines and watched I
think every single one of your snaps. There aren't many
people myself, Bob Mangean, I mean even the coaches.

Speaker 6 (01:29:12):
Right who saw them all because of the changes. I
was right there.

Speaker 9 (01:29:16):
For every single one, I think, and uh, honestly, man,
it's overdue, had already been there.

Speaker 6 (01:29:25):
But this is a Hall of Fame program.

Speaker 5 (01:29:26):
Now Hall of Fame program.

Speaker 6 (01:29:28):
We are in the presence of greatness.

Speaker 5 (01:29:31):
Things are different around.

Speaker 6 (01:29:34):
Hall of Famer.

Speaker 9 (01:29:35):
Yeah, I don't imagine when you guys came in maybe
had your pre production meetings today, like just a little
bit of different of.

Speaker 6 (01:29:40):
An aura around the whole thing.

Speaker 3 (01:29:42):
I definitely feel like, you know, Tony has always kind
of been above me, both figuratively and literally, but now
it feels like there's this considerable distance between the two
of us.

Speaker 6 (01:29:52):
Now.

Speaker 9 (01:29:53):
I mean, the kids talk about oral farming and I
don't really know what all that means, Like Tony is
oral farming here this week.

Speaker 2 (01:30:01):
It's incredible because, as you said, quite possibly no one
had a closer seat, uh to the the really the
rise and then the fall and then maybe some of
the rise in the fall. That was my career at UC.
Tell me, I would tell you you played an integral
part of it, as as you shared well earlier in
the week. There were there's some interviews you can go
back into the archives, and really that's shaped that shaped

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not just my on field life, but really my off
field life as well, because you saw how I handled
a lot of those of those interview settings.

Speaker 9 (01:30:31):
I mean you handled a well, you know what, I
really like you used to do the interviews coming off
of the.

Speaker 6 (01:30:35):
Helmet half off.

Speaker 5 (01:30:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 9 (01:30:37):
In fact, you were a big, a big fan of
the helmet kind of hanging on the forehead, which can't
be too comfortable.

Speaker 6 (01:30:42):
It was either a higher ground.

Speaker 2 (01:30:44):
It was either helmet half off or a hat on
backwards that covered my eyebrows.

Speaker 6 (01:30:49):
Yeah, I had a hat on backwards.

Speaker 5 (01:30:51):
Was nice about just a friend to say, hey, that's
not a look.

Speaker 6 (01:30:54):
It's you. It was awesome, man, that I loved.

Speaker 9 (01:30:58):
I loved the way they delivered it. I loved the
surprise that your family was there and everything. So congratulations, hopefully.
I don't know what the date is for the ceremony.
Hopefully I'm available and can be there Austin and I'll
have the VIP table.

Speaker 30 (01:31:09):
Uh.

Speaker 6 (01:31:10):
Absolutely yeah, to make sure that you get the standing ovation.

Speaker 2 (01:31:13):
Absolutely, you know, Tommy, I couldn't think of anything more
last night to kind of put the icing on the
cake of a great day. Then an FC Cincinnati.

Speaker 5 (01:31:20):
Went over Wnterrey.

Speaker 6 (01:31:22):
Well you got it.

Speaker 2 (01:31:23):
Talk about the the win last night. Obviously, I believe
it was last year, right they played Monterey twice and
lost twice to get the win last night. It's league's
cup competition. Uh, just talk about the overall feeling and
the win last night from this club.

Speaker 9 (01:31:39):
You know, I kind of choked them the pre game
of Kevin and that that actually seems that they were
fortunate last night that the X factor from Monterrey, Uh,
Brandon Vasquez was no longer wearing that Riato's kit, as
he had scored in both of those games and was
very much a determining factor one nil at the game
of TQL Stadium two won the stadium down the mix

(01:31:59):
or at the game down in Mexico, So you know
that that maybe they'd be fortunate, and you know, she
ended up winning the match. But listen, the team formed
a really high level for.

Speaker 6 (01:32:10):
Almost ninety minutes.

Speaker 9 (01:32:11):
There was a couple of times where they switched off
and the goal, especially at the end of the first half,
it felt like the defense just switched off for thirty
second and you give a guy like Sergio Canalos the
space to so much talent, so talented, you can't give
him a look like you did, and he punched him
for it and sent that back into the locker room.
Tied at one page, but the team did what they

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had to do to get a win against a very
good Monterey team. So I thought the defensive execution saved
just it was a couple of times where they switched off.

Speaker 6 (01:32:41):
Was very very good.

Speaker 9 (01:32:43):
You know, they executed well in the final third. There
was probably they probably should have had more goals if
you're being honest. There was a Sergio Santos sitter that
came back across the inside of the six that he
put wide that you really wish you would have put
in to the goal.

Speaker 6 (01:32:57):
There was a very long.

Speaker 9 (01:32:58):
Review and the decision and Luca Oristano was one side,
which was great, uh, you know, to give him the
lead and Pavel Buca what looked like an insurance goal
ends up being the game winner. So I thought that
the team did a lot of things as asked by
the head coach, and it was very much team effort
and and really, when you look at this competition, a

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really important result to set yourself up to be in
a position where moving forward to the next two games,
now you're you're talking about get results, get wins, and
you have the opportunity to advance out and be in
that quarterfinal.

Speaker 2 (01:33:30):
What I what I'm always curious with Tommy, is the
goal is to win an MLS Cup. That that's that's
the where you want to be at the end of
the year. If your f C Cincinnati. And last time
we talked, we talked about, you know, kind of the
the back half of the season here and how do
you operate of you know, you you want to win
the Supporter Shield, you want to give yourself an opportunity there,
but you also want to be playing your best soccer.

(01:33:53):
You want to be fresh going into to those moments.
So how does the League's Cup factor into that, Because
maybe for some teams it's well this, this is something
that is nice, but you know, we don't want to
expend ourselves that could you know, maybe take away from
something in the MLS or that nature. How does how
do you envision this team playing this going forward, because

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certainly when you look at the lineup last night, they're
playing to win that game.

Speaker 11 (01:34:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 9 (01:34:17):
Absolutely, And look it comes from christ These guys want
to win trophies. And if you listen to the post
game injury the Demander did with Apple TV last night,
he talked about I'm here to trophies, and you know,
I want to be in a situation where we can
win trophies every night. And apparently there was a message
before the game from Nick Haagan that was like, guys,

(01:34:38):
six games, we can win a trophy in six games
here in this tournament, you win the three in the
group stage, and then then you go into a quarterfinal
when that whin the semifinal, and you're into the final
with an opportunity to win a major trophy for this
club for the second time Major League Soccer. Obviously that
qualifies you automatically for the Champions Cup next year. So
there's a lot of a lot and there's you know,

(01:35:00):
financial boost for these guys as well. But yeah, look
Pat was very clear that that he wanted to get
a win.

Speaker 6 (01:35:07):
The results last night.

Speaker 9 (01:35:08):
After the first two days, a lot of the results
were in favor of the Mexican teams.

Speaker 6 (01:35:13):
Last night, a lot of the results were in favor
of the MLS teams.

Speaker 9 (01:35:16):
I've Cincinnati win and look, it's only through one matchtack
for all the teams in the competition, but technically they're
out right now at one and oh there's there's four
teams that are animum based on goals score in the standing.
Now a lot of that's gonna wash out based on
how the rest of these results go. But if FC
Cincinnati get three wins, I feel pretty good that they'll

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be through the quarterfinals. And then at that point you're
three three wins away from from winning a major cup.

Speaker 6 (01:35:44):
So no, I think.

Speaker 9 (01:35:46):
Everybody has that mentality that they're locked in and focused on,
you know, the.

Speaker 6 (01:35:50):
Goal of being successful in League's Cup.

Speaker 9 (01:35:53):
And if you look around and I haven't looked at
all the box scores, and last night wasn't able to
watch many games, but it seems like teams are putting
forward their best available rosters at this point in an
effort to win these matches and advance through the competition.
Now it'll get a little complicated. Sure, you have a

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couple you have two midweek match days that'll be added.
That'll certainly congest the schedule in August if you get
out and you make the quarterfinals, and then a lot
of the semifinals.

Speaker 6 (01:36:23):
But that's a good problem to have. And then the final.

Speaker 9 (01:36:26):
Is August thirty first, that weekend, so you'd have to
move the Philadelphia match to a later time in the season.
But that's put in the cart a little bit before
the horse right now. You know, very happy, I'm sure
as they're sitting over at MHTC right now watching film
and reviewing it. During the recovery day, a lot of
people very happy with the way the team performed. And
now they'll turn their attention to Warez.

Speaker 2 (01:36:48):
Warrez knocks off Charlotte four to one. Yeah, in their match.
I know it's a quicker turnaround because they're going to
play on Sunday. From a league's cup standpoint, it's three
match there's correct, three guaranteed matches, and then you go from.

Speaker 9 (01:37:02):
That, yep, yep, if yeah, that's that's right, and the
second of the three when you look at it on
a paper, Tony uh in this sports and I played
the paper mone was office of the three opponents weekes
to the three.

Speaker 6 (01:37:17):
Okay, nobody's gonna.

Speaker 9 (01:37:18):
Be taking wars, you know easy after looking at what
they did going into Charlotte and then scoring four goals
and winning that match last night, how.

Speaker 2 (01:37:27):
How do you manage if you are again Pat noon
and you want to win a league's cup, you want
to win trophies. And now it's a little bit interesting
because now you've got the quicker turnaround. Do you envision
anything from a lineup or or a playing time standpoint
as you you turn around now to Sunday?

Speaker 6 (01:37:43):
Yeah, I think you have to.

Speaker 9 (01:37:44):
You only made two changes, uh from your match on Saturday. Obviously,
now that's quick Saturday to Thursday. But now you go Thursday,
I haven't played last night. You play again three days
later on Sunday. Then you play t Boss three days later,
coming up on that Thursday, and then you turn around
with our Sunday game back in the league play with Charlotte.
So it's a little bit of a tight roping a

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tight rope act here and managing his roster, and you're
a little thin at a couple of the positions where
you're seeing guys eat.

Speaker 6 (01:38:14):
A lot of minutes.

Speaker 9 (01:38:15):
Pavel, Buka and Brian and Nunga have played a lot
together as of late.

Speaker 6 (01:38:19):
The good news is the chemistry agree. That news is
there's nowhere to go with you Yakubo out.

Speaker 20 (01:38:23):
Uh.

Speaker 9 (01:38:24):
You don't really have any depth for anybody to put
in there, and don't know what obviously is out for
quite a while and we won't see.

Speaker 6 (01:38:30):
Him until October, it seems.

Speaker 9 (01:38:33):
So you're kind of scratching your head and asking, you know,
how do you get those guys rest I don't exactly
have that answer. We'll see what bat noon and dials
in as they go through this week and a half
stretched with the four matches up top. Last night you
started Sergio Santos. You made the switch at halftime and
went to Kai Kamara, So then Kay, I would guess,
would be in line to start.

Speaker 6 (01:38:52):
So there's a change.

Speaker 9 (01:38:53):
I'd imagine there's some minutes coming for Alvis Pile. He
could play at center back, he could play wing back.
So where exactly that is we will see teenagehould Abe
maybe get to start. You could start Hilbert Deflores. It's
center back as well. You have depth out wide of
your wingbacks and at your center back. You don't have
much of the defense in midfield, and there is not
going to come off and you really don't want.

Speaker 6 (01:39:16):
Him to do the way he's performing. I think it's
press conference last night he said something on I.

Speaker 9 (01:39:20):
Play every day if I'm given the opportunity to, I
don't have to rest but listen.

Speaker 6 (01:39:24):
At some point he doesn't rest catch up to him.
But he is just a machine right now.

Speaker 9 (01:39:29):
And Donnell Violence is a little younger, but you're still
gonna have to kind of manage his minutes.

Speaker 6 (01:39:33):
Remember the windows open, so there could.

Speaker 9 (01:39:35):
Be some bodies coming in at some point, and the
question is that they're coming in from you know, within
Major League Soccer, or the US citizens, or they coming
in from another country, then obviously you have to work
out their visa and all their paperwork to get them
eligible and maybe not eligible immediately. But Chris Albright Patt
Noonon will figure out that piece.

Speaker 6 (01:39:51):
But no, I do think that.

Speaker 9 (01:39:52):
It's a little bit tricky for him, especially in a
quick turnaround, and that he'll have to make some changes
against Warez. But now you know where you're at, you
to win, you got to make sure you get another
one because if you're two and oh two, oh and oh.
Going into that final Phase three game against Chivas coming
up in six days. Now, all of a sudden, you
control your own destiny probably, or at least you'll know

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what you have to do to get a result and
how many goals you have to score in order to qualify.

Speaker 2 (01:40:20):
When you look at now as the schedule turns to August,
and we've talked kind of how the the MLS slate
is winding down from a health standpoint, Where is this
team at currently and where is it going forward with
the idea of hopefully maybe getting some players back.

Speaker 9 (01:40:35):
Yeah, it's a good question, and I talked to Noon
a little bit about it yesterday in our pregame meeting
when we met with him in the afternoon in his office,
and Kevin Dunka sounds like his rehab is on track,
and hopefully we will see him by about the middle
of August.

Speaker 6 (01:40:51):
We'll see you know.

Speaker 9 (01:40:51):
He didn't want to put a certain game, you know,
peg a certain match for his return at this point
to get it a little premature, but I would in
another week's time, though, are a pretty good idea.

Speaker 6 (01:41:03):
But as the team goes back in the league play
in mid August.

Speaker 9 (01:41:06):
I imagine that's about where we'll see Kevin Denke come
back into the mix and hopefully no setbacks for him. Listen,
that's you know, a guy who has twelve goals coming
back into your team. So that's huge and a really
important piece. I mentioned it'll being a wobo. His injury
obviously more severe, and they did not put him on
the season any injury list, so that's great news. The
hope is that he'll be back, you know, by the
end of the regular season at some point, but that

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one's a little further off in the distance. And I
think the frustrating one right now is U Yakubo, who.

Speaker 6 (01:41:33):
Really hasn't been healthy for a while and.

Speaker 9 (01:41:36):
Could be seeing quite a bit of minutes in the
midfield and you know, top in an attacking position.

Speaker 6 (01:41:43):
And it just just can't seem healthy.

Speaker 9 (01:41:46):
So that's where they really missed the depth and the
versatility of what U out brings to the team right now,
and probably get another piece in the midfield to spell
some of those guys a couple of minutes.

Speaker 2 (01:41:57):
I would be remissed. And I know we're still in
little ways away from it, but I know there's something
really cool coming up on the Charlotte match. After you
get through this stretch here, talk about what's gonna be
happening at Tquel Stadium, not just with the match itself,
but what's gonna be happening after the match.

Speaker 6 (01:42:16):
Well, yeah, that's Charlotte match.

Speaker 9 (01:42:17):
You know, obviously that brings back to league play and
a very important result considering where f C Cincinnati are
in the stingings right now. But you know what really
got everybody's attention this week was the announcement.

Speaker 6 (01:42:29):
And I had heard the names, you know, privately of
who was expected to be back, but.

Speaker 9 (01:42:35):
It hadn't been announced publicly until earlier this week. But
they're gonna have the alumni friendly after the match against Charlotte,
celebrating ten years of the club.

Speaker 6 (01:42:43):
Was that mean they're gonna split these guys up?

Speaker 9 (01:42:45):
You know, a lot of the stars of f C
Cincinnati pass especially those Nippert.

Speaker 6 (01:42:48):
Stadium years, a lot of guys who've been really.

Speaker 9 (01:42:51):
Meaningful games, really meaningful minutes, both in the USL and
Major League Soccer. They're gonna split up and play two
fifteen and a halfs. So yeah, you know the greats
of Jimmy McLauchlan and Andrew Wheedaman on one side, Corbyn Bone,
Omar Cummings, Austin Berry who was a long time captain,
Deca Canon who was a captain and center back, and

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the fans really love they're.

Speaker 6 (01:43:13):
Kind of all on the Blue team.

Speaker 9 (01:43:14):
At Banner will be there, patmy man, you know, those
kind of guys will be on the Blue team, and
then the White team. This front attacking line of Emmanuel Ledsma,
Danny Kunig and GB fall Like, I haven't gone through
counted up the goals that those those three scored for
the Orange and Blue, but man, I don't be the defenders.

Speaker 6 (01:43:34):
I was talking to Austin Berry a training yesterday. I
was like, dude, like, what are you gonna do.

Speaker 9 (01:43:38):
He's like, I'm gonna play fifteen minutes and try not
to get hurt is what I'm gonna do.

Speaker 6 (01:43:42):
And I was like, those guys are gonna.

Speaker 9 (01:43:43):
Come flying at you, excited to be on the field
once again. But yeah, GB, Danny and Manu they've never
been on the pitch together, so this will be the
first time that they all all played at the same time,
all three of them together, and they kind of Austin.

Speaker 6 (01:43:58):
What a great you found out he was coming.

Speaker 9 (01:44:01):
Back out the details to come up from Costa Rica
and play. I mean he was a fan favorite and
another former captain for this team. Uh, Kadem Deckers will
be playing, Justin Weight who was a big.

Speaker 6 (01:44:12):
Big fan fit.

Speaker 9 (01:44:13):
You know, Arsenal youth body, Richie Ryan who's involved in
the academy program. So it is gonna be really fun.
You know, it's it's a essentially a doubleheader. It's a
much shorter match for these guys. But uh, I mean
even like Aaron Powell, who was the trainer for the
early days of Seasoncinnati and and now works in the
front office and men's tran position with the club.

Speaker 6 (01:44:34):
You know, he's not active on the pitch anymore.

Speaker 9 (01:44:36):
He's gonna he's gonna dust off his boots and his
old kid and you know, his old medical kid, and
he will be back down on the bench to train
the guys and pack up the guys that he used
to train.

Speaker 6 (01:44:46):
So no, it's gonna be so much fun. Fans could
just stick around after the.

Speaker 9 (01:44:49):
Match, and that'suld be something that everybody's really looking forward to.

Speaker 2 (01:44:53):
So many people you already mentioned that. I remember as
as you mentioned the Knippert stadium days and what kind
of formed what FC Cincinnati is now. You had to
go through all those years and here you are competing
for an MLS Cup.

Speaker 5 (01:45:07):
So it is. It's been quite a journey and it's
happened in a very short amount of time. Tommy.

Speaker 2 (01:45:12):
I can't thank you enough for the time today. A
little bit of a different schedule with FC going on Sunday,
but appreciate your time. Enjoy the weekend, and we'll talk
again next week, my friend.

Speaker 6 (01:45:23):
Yeah, forward to again.

Speaker 9 (01:45:25):
Congratulate James. I look forward to a toast with you
sometime soon. And yeah, enjoy the weather, it's unbelievable. Enjoy
this weekend, go hit a few boss falls or something,
and yeah, well we'll see what we're do on Sunday.

Speaker 5 (01:45:36):
You're the best.

Speaker 2 (01:45:37):
Tom glead Or the Voice of FC Cincinnati on ESPN
fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station. Bob man Gene Next on
ESPN fifteen thirty, Welcome back since he three sixty thanks
to Penn Station Moving along. Hour number two on ESPN
fifteen thirty, Cincinnati Sports Station, Friday, Hour three, we get
the guy to talk to our guy, Bob Man Jean
from the University of Cincinnati and novacare who is a

(01:45:59):
kind of off with this time to join us today?

Speaker 5 (01:46:02):
Bob? What's going on? How are you?

Speaker 20 (01:46:05):
Tony? We just walked off the court for our last
practice for summer summer basketball, and now the kids get
a little bit of a break and we can focus on,
you know, getting ready for the season as soon as
we come back on the eighteenth.

Speaker 5 (01:46:18):
So what's that mean for you? You get a little time
off now, Bob, Ah.

Speaker 20 (01:46:22):
A couple of days, Tony got to you know, get
a couple of day break, and then we got to
treat the guys who have some lumps, bumps and bruises
and then start focusing on trying to you know, win
the Big twelve.

Speaker 2 (01:46:36):
How much from a from an off season standpoint, how
much has the off season changed from maybe just years
ago or a decade ago. The work that these guys
are able to do or what they're able to get
in with the coaching staff or on their own during
the off season.

Speaker 20 (01:46:50):
Now, it's kind of funny. I started in this sport
or in this profession in college years ago, where summer
you know, the kids never stayed at all. I mean
as soon as school was over, spring football was over,
basketball was over. The kids kind of scattered throughout the
country depending on where they were from, and only the
kids that lived in Pittsburgh or Cincinnati at the two

(01:47:12):
schools I've been at, would work out on campus. And
then once the NCAA made that decision, I think it
was around two thousand and two or two thousand and
three to where football first, it was football could stay
on campus all summer as long as the kids took classes,
and now it's football, women's basketball, men's basketball, and volleyball,
and pretty much if they wanted to, could stay on

(01:47:35):
campus twelve months a year. And you had periods where
you have eight weeks of discretionary in the summer. But again,
the kids are so locked in. You know, even when
you're on a voluntary week, they're over here shooting or
voluntarily lifting and getting treated. So, you know, the summers
are you know, aren't what they used to be. You know,
the kids are here, the coaches are here, wait strength

(01:47:58):
and conditionings here. So it's turned into a full time
job for the kids for the most part. You know,
we get to maybe we'll get two weeks we're in
this two week period, but most of the kids will
be back within a week shooting or lifting with coach
Ray Fell volunteerily, and then the next thing you know,
the season's upon you. I mean, we're I think we're
a little under fourteen weeks now from the first game

(01:48:21):
on November third. So got to you gotta pretty much
you know, walk in all year around.

Speaker 17 (01:48:27):
Now.

Speaker 2 (01:48:28):
I want to talk to you and ask you today
about something going on at Bengals training camp for Maris
Mims missed practice yesterday. He sat out of a couple
of drills the day before this. Of course, the right
tackle for the Cincinnati Bengals. Last year Week seventeen, he
broke his hand against the Broncos. This year, he had
a He was seen with a rap and ice on

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his hand in wrist area, and Zach Taylor talked about
early on in camp, you're monitoring some minor injury things
with some of the players, So you're airing on the
side of caution, no doubt, and it's nothing being reported
to freak out about if you're a Cincinnati Bengal fan.
But I am curious the conversations that happen in a
setting like this where you still are over a month

(01:49:10):
away from from playing in meaningful football games, or you
could equate it to basketball doing offseason work. What are
the conversations like from a trainer and a coach when discussing, okay,
maybe we should hold a guy out, just share on
the side of caution, versus if it were a game week,
you'd probably be pushing that player to play a little bit.

Speaker 20 (01:49:30):
Well, again, it's a hand injury, so you can keep
them conditioning, you can do drills with them, non contact,
like contact. You just don't want him to go, you know,
full speed, you know, having to take the brunt force
of the defensive then crashing down or we're one on
one with a d tackle. So I mean, for the
most part, you're gonna protect it, keep me in a splint,

(01:49:51):
or even make him something even more immobile so that
he can you know, again be protected. Again, you got
four more weeks, got plenty of time to get him
into playing shape, maybe even have him do you know,
one scrimmage down the line. At least that's what we
would do, you know here at the university. So, I mean,

(01:50:12):
and the other thing. In today's world, there are so
many different I mean, really, Tony, if you came in
some days to the training room. We have these three
D fabrication machines now that you just take a three
D print of the hand or the wrist and it
fabricates exactly what you want and you can kind of

(01:50:34):
alter it. So it's not like the old days where
we would have to use either plaster or some heavy
splinting material. Nowadays, these machines can can fabricate something that's
very functional, very position specific, and it's like, it's unbelievable.
I've seen Aaron Himmler or a head football trainer, you know,

(01:50:55):
several times. Some of the stuff that they've manufactured with
the unit we've got is just insight, night and day
from even five years ago. So you know, there's a
lot of things he can do while he's still you know,
taking mental reps. And I'm a real big Vigue believer,
and you know, if the guy's not practicing, I don't

(01:51:16):
care what sports, sitting there and making sure making sure
that you've got mental reps scoring.

Speaker 2 (01:51:22):
Yeah, I wonder we often talk about, obviously, the conversation
that coaches are having amongst themselves when you're talking about
preseason games and how much to play a guy. Are
coaches having those same types of meetings with the training staff,
because as a training staff, you're dealing with these players
on a daily basis, you know, whether it's a bump
or a bruise, or an ache or something that you
want to monitor or maybe something even more serious. As

(01:51:45):
much as the coaches talk amongst each other and probably
get opinions from the players as well, how much time
are the coaches spending with the trainers leading up to
let's say preseason game number one on Okay, this might
be a guy that you want to hold back for
another week.

Speaker 20 (01:52:00):
Oh every day, I mean every day, multiple times a day.
You know, you're having morning meetings, night meetings with the
coaching staff, with the sports medicine staff and saying, hey,
this is where he is, let's plan this for tomorrow.
You're literally taking it day in and day out. And
you know, when you let him actually take reps or practice,

(01:52:21):
you know, again, it depends on experience.

Speaker 6 (01:52:23):
You know.

Speaker 20 (01:52:24):
My favorite story is, you know, when I was working
with Carson Palmer and the fact that finally decided to
let him play in the last scrimmage of the season
for a couple of quarters, and then he still turned
around and started the Kansas City game after he had
that knee injury. So you're talking to them all the time,
and you know, multiple times a day. I've already talked

(01:52:46):
to West like three times today, or by kids and
where they are. So and you're on the field with
the coaches as well, so you can make adjustments as
you're going through practices. And that's really a very critical part,
the fact that the training staff is watching these guys
loans during practice and you can make adjustments.

Speaker 5 (01:53:08):
I am. I'm curious, Bob.

Speaker 2 (01:53:10):
Have you been following along with anything going on at
the Pittsburgh Steelers training camp. Has Aaron Rodgers thrown a
touchdown past this camp or has it all been negative?

Speaker 11 (01:53:21):
Well?

Speaker 20 (01:53:21):
You're really digging it in deep, aren't you? And absolutely yeah,
I'm reading the stories every day and keeping.

Speaker 5 (01:53:29):
An eye Steeler expert. I need to know what's going
on in the ANFC nor.

Speaker 20 (01:53:35):
He's he's doing pretty well. And I think with BK
Medcalf and the other wide receiver they brought in, h
he's got some good targets. They don't have that guy
they had last year who you know, again had issues.
I'll put it like that. So you know, there's very,
very big time hope for for the uh, you know Steelers.

Speaker 5 (01:54:00):
Fair enough, I'll take that.

Speaker 20 (01:54:01):
My last My last thing is about the foundation. Tell
you real quick.

Speaker 6 (01:54:05):
We have a big.

Speaker 20 (01:54:07):
Louou on Saturday over at Receptions in Erlanger. If anybody
is interested in going, go to the One Shot Foundation.
It's a fundraiser and a free educational experience where we're
doing where we're going to do a Take ten session
and educational session because it's that time of year where

(01:54:30):
you know, we want to look out for our student athletes,
high school, elementary school, wreck kids on the on the
fields and courts in order to keep them safe. So
we have big, a big deal on Saturday night over
in Erlanger at Receptions, as I said, And if you
go online to the One Shot Foundation, tickets are still available.

Speaker 2 (01:54:51):
I know you have the Matthew Manngen Junior. One Shot
Foundation obviously is what we're talking about. I know I
believe the birthday bash is coming up in October as well, correct.

Speaker 20 (01:55:00):
Yes, yep, birthday bash will be. The announcement will be
coming up about that fairly soon and we will keep
everybody up to date when it is. And so far
the foundation has had really major impacts in both high
school legislation, educating oh, I don't know, probably close to

(01:55:20):
eighty thousand maybe more people, and actually and looking at
some of our data lately on the AEDs that have
been provided, there are three saves that were we know
of right now, so three people survive their son cardiac
event thanks to the efforts of Matt and Kim and

(01:55:42):
all the people with the foundation.

Speaker 2 (01:55:44):
Bob, you are, You're the absolute best. I appreciate everything
from you. I was able yesterday was such an awesome
day with the UC Hall of Fame announcement. But I
can honestly say, and I'll get into this further as
the event gets closer, but of so many people that
I have to thank. I know we joke around, but

(01:56:05):
I am I am nowhere close to being able to
get that announcement that I got yesterday if you weren't
able to do all the work you were able to
do with me and keep me on the field essentially
holding my body together while I was at UC. So
I do we joke a bunch, but I genuinely genuinely
appreciate you and everything you've done for me to to
put me in the position where I'm able to be

(01:56:26):
in now.

Speaker 20 (01:56:28):
Well, thank you Tony for that, and I can honestly
say your years here were super fun years. We had
a great time together. We won a lot of games.
We took this school. You guys and your team took
this school to places that nobody in this city ever
thought that you see would be at. When we went

(01:56:50):
to that first Orange Bowl game, nothing gets me. Gave
me chills. The net bus ride, if you remember, because
we were all on bus one and I don't know
how many fans are there, but to see that it
just still gets an e chills.

Speaker 2 (01:57:04):
Yeah. Again, I appreciate everything you've done for me. I
appreciate you joining us each and every week, and I
look forward to talking to you again next week. That's
Bob man Jean from the University of Cincinnati and Novacare Bob, Thank.

Speaker 20 (01:57:16):
You, Thank you, Tony. Have a great weekend you and Austin,
and you know I'll try to keep up with Burrow.
But will my guys having any big camp?

Speaker 5 (01:57:25):
YEP, I get it, I get it. Thank you, Bob,
have a great weekend.

Speaker 20 (01:57:29):
Thanks guys, you too.

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It's time to wrap things up for the week. ESPN
fifteen thirty, Cincinnati Sports Station. I believe Austin that means
we got James Rapine coming in.

Speaker 5 (01:58:00):
That's right.

Speaker 2 (01:58:01):
You gotta let know. We gotta let James know about
this microphone any Big Jamo. We gotta let James know
that this mic isn't isn't working properly.

Speaker 5 (01:58:07):
He's got to be careful, Big Jamo in the house.

Speaker 2 (01:58:11):
Something happened this afternoon, and we are I believe you
could use the term football heads here.

Speaker 5 (01:58:17):
Uh huh.

Speaker 2 (01:58:19):
We are seeing, based on multiple reports right now, that
the NFL and ESPN have reached an agreement that gives
ESPNOS access to the red Zone NFL network seven more
regular season games fantasy football rights and more in exchange
for equity in ESPN, potentially worth billions of dollars. So

(01:58:44):
the NFL gets motion March and headed first.

Speaker 3 (01:58:48):
NFL gets equity in ESPN, ESPN gets a lot more
access to the NFL.

Speaker 5 (01:58:54):
Basically, yep, yep. Now, I I think I'm a red
zone guy. I love the red zone.

Speaker 3 (01:59:02):
Yeah, I am too, I love red zone. I think
if ESPN were smart, they probably wouldn't touch that product
at all.

Speaker 5 (01:59:09):
No, please know.

Speaker 3 (01:59:11):
I think if there's one thing though, that you could
probably do, maybe is you mentioned it is the fantasy aspect.
I wonder if there's a way to, like from a
fantasy perspective, incorporate that a little bit more into red zone. Now, me, personally,

(01:59:31):
I don't care that much. And if you're someone who's
dialed in and plugged into fantasy, then you probably don't
need Scott Hansen telling you about your fantasy players. You
probably look that up yourself. But if you remember when
Sunday Ticket first started and fantasy became popular, there used

(01:59:53):
to be ways to like track your fantasy team, like
on the screen, And I just wonder if something like
that would come back. I think that'd be cool.

Speaker 2 (02:00:02):
Yeah, I just I'm glad we're talking about fantasy football
and red zone coming back.

Speaker 3 (02:00:07):
Frankly, I just activated like three of my leagues yesterday
and joined another one. Yep, yet start scheduling seeing when
everybody's available. I tried not to do it until like
the week of the first game, or like a week
before the first game.

Speaker 5 (02:00:20):
Smart.

Speaker 2 (02:00:22):
Also, there was this we we didn't get to it today.
Ben Solac of ESBN went around and ranked all thirty
two NFL teams coaching staff Rank them now again, it's
still rank them season. We're not there yet. Any guests
on who bookends this list from the top and the bottom.

Speaker 5 (02:00:41):
Number one coaching staff yep, I would say is the
Philadelphia Eagles. No, can't say Chiefs. No, they have number two?
Who am I they have? They said the Eagles at
number eight?

Speaker 6 (02:00:55):
Is it the Rams?

Speaker 2 (02:00:57):
They have number one? Your guy Kevin O'Connell in the
minnesot to find Oh, yeah, I should have known that
offensive coordinator Wes Phillips, defensive coordinator Brian Flores.

Speaker 6 (02:01:06):
Yeah, that was obvious.

Speaker 2 (02:01:07):
I don't know that there's a coach around that gets
more with less than than what O'Connell does.

Speaker 5 (02:01:12):
Yeah. Now, Kansas City is two.

Speaker 2 (02:01:18):
San Francisco is three, which I don't know if I
agree with, But they did add Robert Salaz.

Speaker 5 (02:01:21):
Their defensive coordinator. True, that's a big addition.

Speaker 6 (02:01:24):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (02:01:25):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (02:01:26):
The Ravens for the Rams five, the Broncos six, the
Bills seven. Any guests who comes in thirty two.

Speaker 5 (02:01:33):
Thirty second would be the Tennessee Titans. No.

Speaker 2 (02:01:36):
No, And this should feel close and personal to you.
Titans are twenty seven.

Speaker 5 (02:01:42):
It should feel close and personal to me the thirty
second ranked coaching staff in the NFL. YEP, why is
it supposed to feel close and personal to me? Brian
Daball New York Giants number did you see? Kay Adams
tweeted me. That's big time.

Speaker 3 (02:02:01):
I always, you know, people always say I look like
Brian da Ball And somebody actually a couple of years
ago sent me a Giant's hoodie and it was a
really nice hoodie. And so I award for Halloween dressed
up as Brian Dabole, And so I posted a picture
of Kay Adams with the real Brian Dable at training
camp the other day, and I said, me and Kay
Adams at training camp, and she just retweeted it.

Speaker 5 (02:02:22):
It was like a day after a retweet as well, which.

Speaker 2 (02:02:24):
Is even more insane so funny, but it does have
the Cincinnati Bengals kind of smack dab in the middle
at number seventeen, and Solock writes that he feels poorly
about it because last year he had the Bengals ranked
a few spots higher.

Speaker 5 (02:02:36):
It was a big proven year, he thought for Zach Taylor.

Speaker 2 (02:02:39):
Mixon was gone, Callahan was gone, both the main receivers
were seeking new contracts and so on. But he did
talk about how creative the Bengals were on offense, what
Chase Brown's emergence role, but said they're seventeenth. He said
it's because Taylor doesn't have the same impact on the
offense that a Matt Lafleur or Kyle Shanahan or Sean mcvaghy.

(02:03:01):
In what way I think that's he says, I just
don't know how much Al Goldenwilfair as a defensive coordinator.
There are reasons for faith. He was a great potential
positional coach for Cincinnati when they went to the Super Bowl,
great in college. But put it this way, teams between
fourteen and seventeen make up the toughest stretch of the exercise,
you could jumble them up. That would be the Bengals, Seahawks,

(02:03:23):
Steelers and the Chargers. That to me was going to
be my question to you when he says that Taylor
doesn't have the same impact on the offense that Lafleur, Shanahan, McVeigh, McDaniel, O'Connell,
do I don't understand that because I don't think all
of it was put on Dan Pitcher's plate last year, right.
I thought Zach Taylor had a bigger role in what
this defense was able to do.

Speaker 3 (02:03:44):
And I think Zach also is the guy who kind
of enables those guys to do that. You know, I
think looking back on it, maybe Zach gave Brian Callahan
a little too much say, and so Brian Callahan leaves
new ideas come to the table. Zack also hired Justin Riscotti.
I know, I say that name all the time. I'm
like big on that guy being a huge part. And

(02:04:05):
I think Zach knowing who to listen to, when to
listen to, how to maximize those players. And now I
think even more so turning the run game over to
Dan Pitcher this year is going to be really interesting.

Speaker 6 (02:04:19):
I don't.

Speaker 3 (02:04:19):
I've never understood why Zach doesn't get as much credit
as those guys. Sure, maybe because he's a descendant or
on the Sean McVay coaching tree. Maybe that's part of
the reason why. But I think Zach deserves a little
bit of credit because being a head coach is not
just you know directly what you do or your belief

(02:04:43):
on something, but also how you manage the people around
you and getting the most not only out of your
players but also your staff.

Speaker 5 (02:04:49):
I think Zach's good at that.

Speaker 2 (02:04:51):
Yeah, it is a Bristol baby. Tomorrow, Bristol Baby Austin
will be there Reds and Braves at Bristol Motor Speedway.

Speaker 5 (02:04:59):
You know, I know.

Speaker 3 (02:05:00):
I said I don't drink much anymore. I really don't,
but I did pick up some sinsy light limes to
try tomorrow before the race. I love a lime, like
summertime lime beer. It's really good.

Speaker 5 (02:05:14):
It should be a fantastic weather weekend. It's looking perfect.
It's a lot like today.

Speaker 2 (02:05:19):
It's gonna be unbelievable. Yeah, so enjoy it. I know
the Bengals, I believe they have their practice with the
fans at pay Course Stadium tomorrow. That's right, that's going on.
We're back with training camp coverage next week.

Speaker 5 (02:05:31):
Are you gonna be celebrating your Hall of Fame induction
all weekend long? I guess why not. Did you ever
have anybody else reach out to you that you're like, whoa?

Speaker 2 (02:05:41):
I had more people reach out to me than I
can even begin to imagine.

Speaker 5 (02:05:45):
Have you answered all the texts?

Speaker 35 (02:05:46):
No?

Speaker 5 (02:05:46):
Oh, not good with it.

Speaker 2 (02:05:47):
But I was out last night with the family, So
I'll get to that this weekend, along with many other things.
For now, we wish you, uh the listener, a great weekend.
Enjoy it, enjoy the weather.

Speaker 5 (02:05:59):
Thank you.

Speaker 2 (02:06:01):
Robin's Racing, Baby Racing, Roan is racing. This has been
since he three sixty. James Rapina is next on The
Moweggar Show. You'll listen to that on ESPN fifteen thirty
Cincinnati Sports Station. Have a great weekend.