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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey, it's Maagger.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
Join me this afternoon, starting at three h five on
ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station, It's.
Speaker 1 (00:07):
That time for talkbacks.
Speaker 3 (00:09):
Press the microphone and record your message or Austin in tone,
please keep it.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
Clean and don't be mean.
Speaker 3 (00:18):
And a sprinkle, sprinkle, drip drip.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
It's that time for talkbacks.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
It's our favorite parter Sincy three sixty. So Austin buddy,
play those talkbacks on your screen and please try out
to sabotage it.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
All right, then, here's what we got.
Speaker 4 (00:36):
We got your daily edition of talkbacks thanks to our
friends here at Cincy's Shirts. If you've not done so
yesterday or you missed it at all yesterday. The new
design they've got for Thanksgiving, the Blessed this Mess Thanksgiving
twenty twenty five shirt at Sincey Shirts. It's got a
picture of a Bengal tiger. He's eating some turkey. It
is only available this weekend in stores while supplies last,
(01:00):
and customer's gonna get a free turkey drop shirt with
the fifty dollars purchase at any of their retail Sinci
Shirts locations. We thank them for that and for today's talkbacks.
Speaker 5 (01:11):
Good morning, My name is Charlie, Bengals fan. Thanks for
taking my call. Love the show. The Bengals should definitely
be number one on the hot mess list. Mike Brown's
a joke, Duke Toobin's a joke. They never really do
anything to prop up the defense for years.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
It's gross.
Speaker 5 (01:35):
Still my team, still by the gear.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
Going to see them in Miami in December.
Speaker 6 (01:40):
Thankyus, all right, thank you appreciate down there, Charlie, Tony
ODDI what's happening lean the truck here?
Speaker 1 (01:46):
I just want to lead his talk back to taff
High School.
Speaker 7 (01:49):
Man.
Speaker 6 (01:49):
I know the media loves to point shine a bad light,
and who cares about the truth when it lives more entertaining?
Speaker 8 (01:55):
Man?
Speaker 1 (01:55):
But Tyler, keep running a hell of a program down there.
You go. Faculty members down there, keep.
Speaker 6 (02:01):
Doing your thang down there for those kids. Man, it's
a shame that the Cincinnati public school systems don't got
y'all back. Man, But kids, y'all keep shouting for greatness
down there. Keep doing yourr thang down there, and we
love y'all.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
Okay, what did I miss something? So what's going on?
Speaker 4 (02:16):
Something came up yesterday where there was a photo going
around of the Indian Hill visitor locker room and there
were holes punched in the wall all over the locker room,
and so stories started running locally that you know, authorities
were looking into it and that obviously Taft had played there,
(02:37):
and so people, I think a little bit too early,
jumped the gun and accused Taft. And then a video
later surfaced of someone that was taking a video as
Taft was entering into the locker room, which showed the
holes were already in the wall. So now you're seeing
a lot of backtracking because people kind of ran with
(02:58):
it before I think knowing the full story. I don't
know if the full full story is out there yet,
but there seems to be a video out that that
the holes were already there.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
Interesting.
Speaker 9 (03:09):
Austin my co workers in Madison, Indiana. Have your NFL
team to root for the rest of this season.
Speaker 10 (03:17):
Colts Coats, Colts.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
Coat, Let's go.
Speaker 11 (03:34):
Jeff got the co workers in on it and sound
effects rank them. I don't know if I'm ready to
root for the Cults, Okay, I don't know if I
want to put my faith in Danny Dimes.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
Okay, Happy Home Day. This is Kevin and Architect.
Speaker 12 (03:46):
You talked back on Tony Pike's Sincy three sixty feetud
Austin chopped Livery Elmore, Tony, are you going to be
a guest on the big pregame show this Saturday?
Speaker 1 (03:59):
I don't think sac air Cats game?
Speaker 12 (04:01):
And if so, are you going to talk about what's
going on with our head coach?
Speaker 1 (04:05):
Scott scattered in his shorts? Oh my, I don't think.
I don't think so.
Speaker 10 (04:12):
Good day, don't you You know? I can think it's your
INTERNETI sports Omer. Given the NFL's season events and the
way that the Cincinnati Bengals name has been sullied, I
must declare them the greatest gender dogs in sports history,
and therefore I have to root for them even harder.
Does this mean that we're watching all seven remaining games? Yes,
(04:35):
it does, Bart, But I'll make your favorite shaved borderhouse Beazza, No,
no judged.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
Thank you, Homer, love each other.
Speaker 7 (04:44):
I in my mouth today, guy.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
Did not on.
Speaker 7 (05:03):
That's what I say. I ain't never opened my mouth
to that guy was.
Speaker 11 (05:13):
Now you could view jamar As as saying a double negative.
I ain't spit on nobody which could say telling the truth,
and he got a box.
Speaker 13 (05:23):
John.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
Sorry, I'm getting in a little late.
Speaker 8 (05:27):
But mans and seven called in a couple of days ago,
and I believe he said he hated the Steelers in Michigan.
Speaker 14 (05:34):
Man's and seven.
Speaker 10 (05:36):
Why do you hate Michigan?
Speaker 1 (05:37):
Is it because the team you root for loses to them?
I have no idea who you root for.
Speaker 13 (05:43):
But if that's the case, then you must hate the
Reading Memorial day three on three because you stay losing
down there.
Speaker 4 (05:49):
Bob Baby now made May got his wires crossed here ye,
which is not a surprise.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
MAVs in seven and balling ain't easier two different people.
John yep now MAVs and seven.
Speaker 4 (06:03):
They want to change his name because MAVs in seven
is essentially how many games it took for the Dallas
Mavericks to be eliminated from playoff contention this year.
Speaker 11 (06:10):
Yeah, Cooper flag looks pretty terrible. Well, I'm happy for
uh Moon though his super Bowl's coming up next Saturday.
Speaker 15 (06:19):
Yes, Hi, love your show. What a fun first hour
that was, Thank you. I was wondering if there's any
truth to the rumor I heard years ago that the Bengals,
in order to fulfill the Rooney role requirement, simply turned
around and did a soft interview of Marvin Lewis, the
guy that they literally just fired because the Bengals were
(06:43):
too lazy and cheap to bring anyone else in.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
Is this true?
Speaker 11 (06:47):
I don't believe. I don't believe that's true. It's not true.
Speaker 14 (06:52):
After seeing how badly the UK looked last night. Oh,
I think you guys don't have as much to worry
about with Louisville as you might have thought you did,
because Kentucky, frankly, is not very good. By the way,
this would be my last TikTok this week. My next
one will be from will be next week from somewhere
(07:12):
else in the United States.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
Man, guess where. I'll give you a hint. I'll be
where my daughter is now living.
Speaker 11 (07:20):
Well, if you remember a couple of weeks ago, Ken
told us that his daughter lives. I believe in Salt
Lake City.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
Man. Ken just travels the world. I'll tell you what
he's got it made. He does. His teams might stink,
but he gets to go around.
Speaker 4 (07:34):
And great counterport. Though maybe maybe there is hope for
the Bearcats.
Speaker 9 (07:39):
Hey, Jim and Milford, Hey, if you want to increase
the TV ratings for the Pro Bowl and all these
different skill challenges. Let's do a spending contest.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
What do you think? I don't think that would work.
He really thought he he cooked with that one.
Speaker 5 (07:57):
I don't think from the groove.
Speaker 16 (08:02):
Unfortunately, the honeymoon phase with Mark Poe ended for me
after this Week sixteen layup last season, and with the
start that we've got this year, I'm starting to think
that he might not be the guy. I think last
night was just pitiful. Louisville was just pitiful. I think
(08:26):
we made a mistake on that one.
Speaker 17 (08:28):
Wow.
Speaker 4 (08:29):
Now I believe I saw or read somewhere they've spent
like twenty two million on that roster. And if they're
not winning, okay.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
So about what Ben roethlisbergers had. Anybody with two eyes
and tummen sence can tell that the Steelers are a
thirty team. It's just what they do every year, every
almost every game. All you got to do is go
back and look at the film for their dirty hits.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
Watch the film.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
I think what he's saying is competitively, they don't respect
the Bengals as a true rival like they do the
Ravens because they haven't won anything like the Ravens have.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
And then the rivalry is way one sided.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
I mean the Steelers are forty two and nineteen over
the last thirty years.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
Versus Okay, I mean, I'll take your take.
Speaker 13 (09:09):
Prosecution of Mike Brown day two. We all know Mike's
processes are flawed.
Speaker 10 (09:15):
Every number proves it.
Speaker 13 (09:17):
His definition of winning is flawed as well, the valuable
franchise and one of the lowest winning percentages as an owner.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
Winning to him is.
Speaker 13 (09:24):
A contractual success. Nick constantly bites him in the ours.
If you really want somethingbody you're willing to change. Also,
did you know the Bengals have the third least amount
of Hall of Famers. Things that make you say, hmmm,
let's get Kenny in there.
Speaker 18 (09:39):
Okay, thank you, Hardie. As usual, you are on point. Yes,
it's been like that since the Bengals inception. The Steelers
have always disrespected the Bengals. It just always goes that way,
and you hardly ever hear anything. Oftentimes there's not even
a flag. They have single handedly ended playoff and potential
Super Bowl runs correct and sometimes it seems like it's
(09:59):
on purpose. But every time it goes the other way,
it's like a federal case. The turning into crybabies. I'm
not saying what Chase did was right. But there's another side.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
Okay, there are two sides to every story. If you
want a little hope him for the defense. Okay.
Speaker 19 (10:16):
Seattle, for instance, has gone from twenty fourth to fourteenth
to ninth. Now, I think so, you know, it is
possible to make things happen fairly quickly.
Speaker 4 (10:29):
The only difference in Seattle is their coach is a
proven defensive genius. That's the only difference.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
Is all right, Adam, you'll be a boss. Stop Austin.
Speaker 20 (10:40):
You said something insightful, which is rare, so I had
to do a little talking too on it. You said
Mike Brown wants to win.
Speaker 10 (10:48):
He doesn't.
Speaker 20 (10:48):
He hates lous, wants to win his way, and his
way has flaws. Well, the same with Jerry Jones. Jerry
Jones wants to win, but it has to be his way.
He would rather lose doing it his way and let
somebody else be in charge.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
And there's the problem. Okay, I think that's fair.
Speaker 10 (11:09):
Yeah, Katy Anderson has got to be put in the
Hall of Fame.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
It's just so ridiculous. Agreed.
Speaker 7 (11:16):
The Pistons are something else.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
Okay, see unreal.
Speaker 15 (11:21):
Seems like Zach Taylor's had enough press conferences for one week.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
Yeah, it's Taylor's Bengals.
Speaker 5 (11:27):
They tried to kill our punter two different times.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
You know it's it's bad when that happened. Yeah, it's
the Lord, Hey Lord.
Speaker 21 (11:36):
The silent reporters always asked Zach Taylor going into halftime,
so what adjustments do you think you'll make? He always
brings up, well, we need to make defensive stops and
get create turnovers. He may want to tell that to
your team back.
Speaker 17 (11:56):
It's true love, no love, no love. Last city up there,
Sonny hot, Come on, Ben, I heard you. Pittsburgh's a
flywer city. One of the worst stadiums, the worst cities
I've received. Flower City, ugly colors, yellow and black pirates
to the pit Panthers, to the Squealers.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
Man sucks, man. I ain't forgot about what you guys
did us back in the day. That's why we don't
like that city. That's why we don't like that team.
Speaker 17 (12:19):
I gotta respectful the Cleveland Browns and I got for
them real talk, and the Ravens Now I don't respect
them neither.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
It's all about Bengals. Okay.
Speaker 22 (12:28):
I mean you want to talk about a team that's
built for sports radio. I mean, lucky you guys. They
just put it on a fee for you and you
just got to hit it. I mean every single day,
it's something new with the screw. Having said that, the organization,
you have two of the best players in the sport,
two of the best in the sport. You think the
Saints of the Jets wouldn't want Joe Burrow and Jamar
Chase to start their franchises they head into free agency
(12:49):
in the draft. You already have that this is not
a total tear down. You can't fix this if you're competent,
which I'm not quite sure they are, it is fixable.
Speaker 11 (12:58):
I do not think this is a complete rebuild, and
I think that's part of the reason why Zach will
probably keep his job. And you know, whether you agree
with that or not, I can see a world that
they are a playoff team next year.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
I can. Okay, did I hear.
Speaker 8 (13:15):
Zach say something about first and second down? We're quote
unquote good? Is he referring to Pittsburgh went on every
second and ten we ran the ball with almost no success.
I'm hoping I heard that wrong, But if you guys
heard it differently, please.
Speaker 11 (13:28):
I think he was talking about the defense. Yeah, there
was some good tackling on first and second downs on defense.
If you remember, there was conversions of third and ten,
third and eleven, third and seventeen, third and sixteen eleven. Yeah,
so they did get him in third and long.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
All right. I think he was talking Can we.
Speaker 5 (13:50):
Find out what talkbackers snuck into Zach Taylor's press conference
and asked the question.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
About looking ahead to Thursday night?
Speaker 7 (13:55):
He was that guy.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
It took a while to get there.
Speaker 23 (14:00):
What what other NFL teams can you think of that
struggle to score offensively because they can't scheme their way
out of what the defense is showing them in coverage.
I mean, typically it's because they don't have enough talent.
But when I think about the Bengals, I think about
how Zach Taylor can't scheme against zone coverage against the
Steelers to get anything done offensively. And then I also
(14:21):
think about twenty twenty two during the first part of
the season, when he could have schemed his way out
of cover two.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
I mean, come on, we did.
Speaker 4 (14:30):
We did have a lengthy conversation about cover two A
couple years.
Speaker 11 (14:34):
I think you can go back and look at the
film from Pittsburgh and see there was a handful of
plays that Joe Flacco missed. There was at least two
where Noah Fense was wide open for a touchdown and
Flacco didn't hit him and it was either a protection
issue or Flacco checked it down or whatever it was.
I think the big thing is that third option hasn't
(14:56):
been winning. Fant won a couple times. Yoshibosh has one enough.
Uh maybe with Kiseki back that has a role in it.
I understand your counter that would be you have Jamar
Chase and t Higgins.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
I get it.
Speaker 11 (15:10):
But there are some plays at the Bengals offensively left
out there, and specifically the quarterback left out there against
the Steelers.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
There's two sides of her story.
Speaker 12 (15:20):
One's a line and one's the true and Mike Brown
and the Bengals front office have been lying to it
our sales for years, thinking that their way works.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
There you go, thank you, Kevin.
Speaker 4 (15:31):
It was our last one, all right, A break and
a football in the Natti that we're gonna have some
fun with when we come back.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
Oh boy.
Speaker 4 (15:38):
On ESPN fifteen thirty sports station. What you talking about,
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Speaker 1 (15:43):
Plumbing
Hey, it's Maagger.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
Join me this afternoon, starting at three h five on
ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station, It's.
Speaker 1 (00:07):
That time for talkbacks.
Speaker 3 (00:09):
Press the microphone and record your message or Austin in tone,
please keep it.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
Clean and don't be mean.
Speaker 3 (00:18):
And a sprinkle, sprinkle, drip drip.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
It's that time for talkbacks.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
It's our favorite parter Sincy three sixty. So Austin buddy,
play those talkbacks on your screen and please try out
to sabotage it.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
All right, then, here's what we got.
Speaker 4 (00:36):
We got your daily edition of talkbacks thanks to our
friends here at Cincy's Shirts. If you've not done so
yesterday or you missed it at all yesterday. The new
design they've got for Thanksgiving, the Blessed this Mess Thanksgiving
twenty twenty five shirt at Sincey Shirts. It's got a
picture of a Bengal tiger. He's eating some turkey. It
is only available this weekend in stores while supplies last,
(01:00):
and customer's gonna get a free turkey drop shirt with
the fifty dollars purchase at any of their retail Sinci
Shirts locations. We thank them for that and for today's talkbacks.
Speaker 5 (01:11):
Good morning, My name is Charlie, Bengals fan. Thanks for
taking my call. Love the show. The Bengals should definitely
be number one on the hot mess list. Mike Brown's
a joke, Duke Toobin's a joke. They never really do
anything to prop up the defense for years.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
It's gross.
Speaker 5 (01:35):
Still my team, still by the gear.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
Going to see them in Miami in December.
Speaker 6 (01:40):
Thankyus, all right, thank you appreciate down there, Charlie, Tony
ODDI what's happening lean the truck here?
Speaker 1 (01:46):
I just want to lead his talk back to taff
High School.
Speaker 7 (01:49):
Man.
Speaker 6 (01:49):
I know the media loves to point shine a bad light,
and who cares about the truth when it lives more entertaining?
Speaker 8 (01:55):
Man?
Speaker 1 (01:55):
But Tyler, keep running a hell of a program down there.
You go. Faculty members down there, keep.
Speaker 6 (02:01):
Doing your thang down there for those kids. Man, it's
a shame that the Cincinnati public school systems don't got
y'all back. Man, But kids, y'all keep shouting for greatness
down there. Keep doing yourr thang down there, and we
love y'all.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
Okay, what did I miss something? So what's going on?
Speaker 4 (02:16):
Something came up yesterday where there was a photo going
around of the Indian Hill visitor locker room and there
were holes punched in the wall all over the locker room,
and so stories started running locally that you know, authorities
were looking into it and that obviously Taft had played there,
(02:37):
and so people, I think a little bit too early,
jumped the gun and accused Taft. And then a video
later surfaced of someone that was taking a video as
Taft was entering into the locker room, which showed the
holes were already in the wall. So now you're seeing
a lot of backtracking because people kind of ran with
(02:58):
it before I think knowing the full story. I don't
know if the full full story is out there yet,
but there seems to be a video out that that
the holes were already there.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
Interesting.
Speaker 9 (03:09):
Austin my co workers in Madison, Indiana. Have your NFL
team to root for the rest of this season.
Speaker 10 (03:17):
Colts Coats, Colts.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
Coat, Let's go.
Speaker 11 (03:34):
Jeff got the co workers in on it and sound
effects rank them. I don't know if I'm ready to
root for the Cults, Okay, I don't know if I
want to put my faith in Danny Dimes.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
Okay, Happy Home Day. This is Kevin and Architect.
Speaker 12 (03:46):
You talked back on Tony Pike's Sincy three sixty feetud
Austin chopped Livery Elmore, Tony, are you going to be
a guest on the big pregame show this Saturday?
Speaker 1 (03:59):
I don't think sac air Cats game?
Speaker 12 (04:01):
And if so, are you going to talk about what's
going on with our head coach?
Speaker 1 (04:05):
Scott scattered in his shorts? Oh my, I don't think.
I don't think so.
Speaker 10 (04:12):
Good day, don't you You know? I can think it's your
INTERNETI sports Omer. Given the NFL's season events and the
way that the Cincinnati Bengals name has been sullied, I
must declare them the greatest gender dogs in sports history,
and therefore I have to root for them even harder.
Does this mean that we're watching all seven remaining games? Yes,
(04:35):
it does, Bart, But I'll make your favorite shaved borderhouse Beazza, No,
no judged.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
Thank you, Homer, love each other.
Speaker 7 (04:44):
I in my mouth today, guy.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
Did not on.
Speaker 7 (05:03):
That's what I say. I ain't never opened my mouth
to that guy was.
Speaker 11 (05:13):
Now you could view jamar As as saying a double negative.
I ain't spit on nobody which could say telling the truth,
and he got a box.
Speaker 13 (05:23):
John.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
Sorry, I'm getting in a little late.
Speaker 8 (05:27):
But mans and seven called in a couple of days ago,
and I believe he said he hated the Steelers in Michigan.
Speaker 14 (05:34):
Man's and seven.
Speaker 10 (05:36):
Why do you hate Michigan?
Speaker 1 (05:37):
Is it because the team you root for loses to them?
I have no idea who you root for.
Speaker 13 (05:43):
But if that's the case, then you must hate the
Reading Memorial day three on three because you stay losing
down there.
Speaker 4 (05:49):
Bob Baby now made May got his wires crossed here ye,
which is not a surprise.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
MAVs in seven and balling ain't easier two different people.
John yep now MAVs and seven.
Speaker 4 (06:03):
They want to change his name because MAVs in seven
is essentially how many games it took for the Dallas
Mavericks to be eliminated from playoff contention this year.
Speaker 11 (06:10):
Yeah, Cooper flag looks pretty terrible. Well, I'm happy for
uh Moon though his super Bowl's coming up next Saturday.
Speaker 15 (06:19):
Yes, Hi, love your show. What a fun first hour
that was, Thank you. I was wondering if there's any
truth to the rumor I heard years ago that the Bengals,
in order to fulfill the Rooney role requirement, simply turned
around and did a soft interview of Marvin Lewis, the
guy that they literally just fired because the Bengals were
(06:43):
too lazy and cheap to bring anyone else in.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
Is this true?
Speaker 11 (06:47):
I don't believe. I don't believe that's true. It's not true.
Speaker 14 (06:52):
After seeing how badly the UK looked last night. Oh,
I think you guys don't have as much to worry
about with Louisville as you might have thought you did,
because Kentucky, frankly, is not very good. By the way,
this would be my last TikTok this week. My next
one will be from will be next week from somewhere
(07:12):
else in the United States.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
Man, guess where. I'll give you a hint. I'll be
where my daughter is now living.
Speaker 11 (07:20):
Well, if you remember a couple of weeks ago, Ken
told us that his daughter lives. I believe in Salt
Lake City.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
Man. Ken just travels the world. I'll tell you what
he's got it made. He does. His teams might stink,
but he gets to go around.
Speaker 4 (07:34):
And great counterport. Though maybe maybe there is hope for
the Bearcats.
Speaker 9 (07:39):
Hey, Jim and Milford, Hey, if you want to increase
the TV ratings for the Pro Bowl and all these
different skill challenges. Let's do a spending contest.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
What do you think? I don't think that would work.
He really thought he he cooked with that one.
Speaker 5 (07:57):
I don't think from the groove.
Speaker 16 (08:02):
Unfortunately, the honeymoon phase with Mark Poe ended for me
after this Week sixteen layup last season, and with the
start that we've got this year, I'm starting to think
that he might not be the guy. I think last
night was just pitiful. Louisville was just pitiful. I think
(08:26):
we made a mistake on that one.
Speaker 17 (08:28):
Wow.
Speaker 4 (08:29):
Now I believe I saw or read somewhere they've spent
like twenty two million on that roster. And if they're
not winning, okay.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
So about what Ben roethlisbergers had. Anybody with two eyes
and tummen sence can tell that the Steelers are a
thirty team. It's just what they do every year, every
almost every game. All you got to do is go
back and look at the film for their dirty hits.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
Watch the film.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
I think what he's saying is competitively, they don't respect
the Bengals as a true rival like they do the
Ravens because they haven't won anything like the Ravens have.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
And then the rivalry is way one sided.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
I mean the Steelers are forty two and nineteen over
the last thirty years.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
Versus Okay, I mean, I'll take your take.
Speaker 13 (09:09):
Prosecution of Mike Brown day two. We all know Mike's
processes are flawed.
Speaker 10 (09:15):
Every number proves it.
Speaker 13 (09:17):
His definition of winning is flawed as well, the valuable
franchise and one of the lowest winning percentages as an owner.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
Winning to him is.
Speaker 13 (09:24):
A contractual success. Nick constantly bites him in the ours.
If you really want somethingbody you're willing to change. Also,
did you know the Bengals have the third least amount
of Hall of Famers. Things that make you say, hmmm,
let's get Kenny in there.
Speaker 18 (09:39):
Okay, thank you, Hardie. As usual, you are on point. Yes,
it's been like that since the Bengals inception. The Steelers
have always disrespected the Bengals. It just always goes that way,
and you hardly ever hear anything. Oftentimes there's not even
a flag. They have single handedly ended playoff and potential
Super Bowl runs correct and sometimes it seems like it's
(09:59):
on purpose. But every time it goes the other way,
it's like a federal case. The turning into crybabies. I'm
not saying what Chase did was right. But there's another side.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
Okay, there are two sides to every story. If you
want a little hope him for the defense. Okay.
Speaker 19 (10:16):
Seattle, for instance, has gone from twenty fourth to fourteenth
to ninth. Now, I think so, you know, it is
possible to make things happen fairly quickly.
Speaker 4 (10:29):
The only difference in Seattle is their coach is a
proven defensive genius. That's the only difference.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
Is all right, Adam, you'll be a boss. Stop Austin.
Speaker 20 (10:40):
You said something insightful, which is rare, so I had
to do a little talking too on it. You said
Mike Brown wants to win.
Speaker 10 (10:48):
He doesn't.
Speaker 20 (10:48):
He hates lous, wants to win his way, and his
way has flaws. Well, the same with Jerry Jones. Jerry
Jones wants to win, but it has to be his way.
He would rather lose doing it his way and let
somebody else be in charge.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
And there's the problem. Okay, I think that's fair.
Speaker 10 (11:09):
Yeah, Katy Anderson has got to be put in the
Hall of Fame.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
It's just so ridiculous. Agreed.
Speaker 7 (11:16):
The Pistons are something else.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
Okay, see unreal.
Speaker 15 (11:21):
Seems like Zach Taylor's had enough press conferences for one week.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
Yeah, it's Taylor's Bengals.
Speaker 5 (11:27):
They tried to kill our punter two different times.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
You know it's it's bad when that happened. Yeah, it's
the Lord, Hey Lord.
Speaker 21 (11:36):
The silent reporters always asked Zach Taylor going into halftime,
so what adjustments do you think you'll make? He always
brings up, well, we need to make defensive stops and
get create turnovers. He may want to tell that to
your team back.
Speaker 17 (11:56):
It's true love, no love, no love. Last city up there,
Sonny hot, Come on, Ben, I heard you. Pittsburgh's a
flywer city. One of the worst stadiums, the worst cities
I've received. Flower City, ugly colors, yellow and black pirates
to the pit Panthers, to the Squealers.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
Man sucks, man. I ain't forgot about what you guys
did us back in the day. That's why we don't
like that city. That's why we don't like that team.
Speaker 17 (12:19):
I gotta respectful the Cleveland Browns and I got for
them real talk, and the Ravens Now I don't respect
them neither.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
It's all about Bengals. Okay.
Speaker 22 (12:28):
I mean you want to talk about a team that's
built for sports radio. I mean, lucky you guys. They
just put it on a fee for you and you
just got to hit it. I mean every single day,
it's something new with the screw. Having said that, the organization,
you have two of the best players in the sport,
two of the best in the sport. You think the
Saints of the Jets wouldn't want Joe Burrow and Jamar
Chase to start their franchises they head into free agency
(12:49):
in the draft. You already have that this is not
a total tear down. You can't fix this if you're competent,
which I'm not quite sure they are, it is fixable.
Speaker 11 (12:58):
I do not think this is a complete rebuild, and
I think that's part of the reason why Zach will
probably keep his job. And you know, whether you agree
with that or not, I can see a world that
they are a playoff team next year.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
I can. Okay, did I hear.
Speaker 8 (13:15):
Zach say something about first and second down? We're quote
unquote good? Is he referring to Pittsburgh went on every
second and ten we ran the ball with almost no success.
I'm hoping I heard that wrong, But if you guys
heard it differently, please.
Speaker 11 (13:28):
I think he was talking about the defense. Yeah, there
was some good tackling on first and second downs on defense.
If you remember, there was conversions of third and ten,
third and eleven, third and seventeen, third and sixteen eleven. Yeah,
so they did get him in third and long.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
All right. I think he was talking Can we.
Speaker 5 (13:50):
Find out what talkbackers snuck into Zach Taylor's press conference
and asked the question.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
About looking ahead to Thursday night?
Speaker 7 (13:55):
He was that guy.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
It took a while to get there.
Speaker 23 (14:00):
What what other NFL teams can you think of that
struggle to score offensively because they can't scheme their way
out of what the defense is showing them in coverage.
I mean, typically it's because they don't have enough talent.
But when I think about the Bengals, I think about
how Zach Taylor can't scheme against zone coverage against the
Steelers to get anything done offensively. And then I also
(14:21):
think about twenty twenty two during the first part of
the season, when he could have schemed his way out
of cover two.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
I mean, come on, we did.
Speaker 4 (14:30):
We did have a lengthy conversation about cover two A
couple years.
Speaker 11 (14:34):
I think you can go back and look at the
film from Pittsburgh and see there was a handful of
plays that Joe Flacco missed. There was at least two
where Noah Fense was wide open for a touchdown and
Flacco didn't hit him and it was either a protection
issue or Flacco checked it down or whatever it was.
I think the big thing is that third option hasn't
(14:56):
been winning. Fant won a couple times. Yoshibosh has one enough.
Uh maybe with Kiseki back that has a role in it.
I understand your counter that would be you have Jamar
Chase and t Higgins.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
I get it.
Speaker 11 (15:10):
But there are some plays at the Bengals offensively left
out there, and specifically the quarterback left out there against
the Steelers.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
There's two sides of her story.
Speaker 12 (15:20):
One's a line and one's the true and Mike Brown
and the Bengals front office have been lying to it
our sales for years, thinking that their way works.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
There you go, thank you, Kevin.
Speaker 4 (15:31):
It was our last one, all right, A break and
a football in the Natti that we're gonna have some
fun with when we come back.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
Oh boy.
Speaker 4 (15:38):
On ESPN fifteen thirty sports station. What you talking about,
Thanks the Sin T shirts.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
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