October 23, 2025 • 45 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:16):
Shout out to the folks at Cincy Shirts. Welcome to
our number two, Cincy three sixty. Thank you for joining us.
Your talkback's coming up in just a few moments. We'll
still talk some Wes Miller and UC basketball later on
an hour number three, we'll read and react. We'll look
ahead to the college and NFL slate coming up starting
tonight at the NFL level as well. But before we
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do any of that, let's go to our guy from
ADAZ Sports covering the Cincinnati Bengals. John Sharon is with us.
What's up, John?
Speaker 3 (00:43):
Hey, Tony, Good to talk to you again, man.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
Always always good to talk to you.
Speaker 4 (00:46):
John.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Before I even talk to you about the Cincinnati Bengals,
how about these Cincinnati Bearcats. Are you buying what the
Bearcats are putting together right now? And are you buying
the Bearcats as Big twelve contenders?
Speaker 5 (00:58):
I really don't want too, but I also really really
want to, So you know what, I'm just gonna I'm
just gonna let go.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
I'm gonna let go. I'm gonna let them hurt me again.
Speaker 5 (01:06):
You know, I've put off these walls. They're tearing down
right now.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
I'm just I'm just going with it.
Speaker 5 (01:12):
We'll see what they do against Utah and a coup
in I guess a week or so.
Speaker 6 (01:16):
Ye.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
Yeah, I'm just like, let's just ride out. Let's just
see what happens.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
Take care of business against a very talented offense on Saturday,
and uh, and see what happens on the road in
Utah against a good squad.
Speaker 7 (01:27):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
We know what happened last Thursday, Bengals pick up a
win against the Steelers. Joe Flacca was amazing. He is
now the darling based on his press conference from yesterday
where it feels like so many people can relate to
what Joe Flacca was talking about as it relates to
the field. John, Where did you see the ability for
Joe Flacco to have as much success as he did.
Speaker 5 (01:47):
I think the more time on TAC that he had
in practice with his receivers, the better the timing was.
And I just think it's so impressive how quickly he
was able to get the ball out of his ends.
But also to be able to push the ball down
the field and hit some of those windows and some
of those in breaking routes to either Jamar Chase or
t Higgins. So the offensive line looked better because the
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ball was getting out quicker, but also he knew where
to go with the ball.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
And I think that's just what the Bengals had.
Speaker 5 (02:13):
Envisioned with bringing in a new quarterback instead of Drake
Jake grinding, someone who played on time and just you
didn't have to be he doesn't have to be completely accurate,
didn't have to have Joe Burrow type accuracy to make
this offense work, but recognizing when he's got when the
receivers have inside leverage and knowing that you know those
windows are going to open up in a fraction of
a second, and getting the ball out and just still
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putting it on, you know, on other guy's hands, like
they're some of the best hands catchers in the NFL.
So it's just it's all about just making sure that
you're into on time and then rhythm, and.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
That's just how you had that success.
Speaker 5 (02:45):
And obviously, you know, the Steelers did him a favor
by just spamming man coverage over and over again, and
just not really adjusting.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
In that regard, and that's kind of how that day happened.
Speaker 5 (02:52):
But I was very impressed by how well he played
on time and in rhythm throughout.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
The entire game. That's just what allowed the consisten success
to keep blowing.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
You mentioned the Steelers playing man coverage. I was surprised.
Not only that, but when you think about a team
playing man, you think that they're committing more to the
box to stop the run. And yet Chase Brown ran
for nine point eight yards of carry. They ran it
as a team for six point two yards per carry.
Anything that you can point to as to why they
were all of a sudden able to find success on
the ground, I.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
Think the blocking was just better.
Speaker 5 (03:22):
I think they found some concepts with flatko under center,
because obviously the Bengals run game with Burrow, it's been
mostly in the pistol around the shotgun because he doesn't
have as much comfort, you know, under center. But Joe Flacco,
obviously he's played a long time, he's been around that
scheme a while, and I think he finds some comfort
in it, and they can kind of marry the pass
and run game a little bit coming out from that formation,
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and you know, they were able to kind of stretch
the Steelers out a little bit horizontally, and I think
dol Rytherner had a good game walking next to Rounda
Brown junior, and that opens up some holes for Chase Brown.
So you know, the Steelers, we talked about it with
Austin last week. They're really aggressive and how they defend
the run. Sometimes they can get a little bit over aggressive,
and I think the Bengals just found a nice rhythm
and flow with some of the concepts that they had
under center, and that's what led to that succeps. It
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didn't really matter where in the game it was, or
the Bengals were up, or if they were trailing or
anything like that.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
I think walking was just better.
Speaker 4 (04:12):
You mentioned Dalton Risner. Zach Taylor has not announced or
won't announced exactly who his starting guards are going to be.
Do you expect there to be a short leash for
those guys and the Bengals kind of keep rolling through
whoever they feel like he's playing good at the moment.
Speaker 8 (04:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (04:27):
I was a bit surprised that Riisner got the start
last week, considering that Fairchild he seemed to be practicing.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
And able to play, and he was active.
Speaker 5 (04:35):
I think it was more just the fact that it
was a short week and Fairchild was coming off that
knee injury, and maybe they didn't think they had enough
time to actually practice enough to play. But then Riisner,
you know, he's a natural left guard, that's where he's
played ninety percent of his snaps, and I think he
looked better there compared to right guards in some of
those first couple weeks where he was starting. I would
imagine that Fairchild is going to take that spot back
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now that he's fully healthy, just because I don't think
he was playing bad enough to warrant being benched, and
I think they value Risner just being the guy that
can fill in either spot in a pinch if some
guy gets hurt.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
I'm really interested to see in the least with Jan Rivers.
Speaker 5 (05:11):
I think that's a case where they really liked what
he did in preseason, and then the first chance that
they felt like he deserved in the regular season in
Week four, that he got that chance, and I don't
think they wanted to take him out until maybe something
drastic happens. But I would imagine that we're going to
see both rookies out there this week when they're both healthy,
and maybe it's just about giving Rivers a little bit
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more time to see if he can kind of stabilize himself,
and if not, then that's where you have Lucas Patrick
or Dalton Riisers to fill in for that spot.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
One other thing on the offense, and then I'll switch
it over the defensive side of the ball. You mentioned
Joe Flacco and the ability to go under center in
the running game. We've seen this now from different sample sizes.
When Jake Browning took over years ago, they did found
some success, find some success in the running game, and
a lot of it was drawn to the under center run.
I know that Joe Burrow doesn't want to get under
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center much. You watch what he did at LSU. They
were rarely ever under center. When it comes down to
Zach's scheme versus what Joe Burrow wants to do. How
did those conversations eventually go, Because I wonder if if
Zach has tried to do more under center, and you
speculate as if Joe doesn't want to do that and
just wants to stay and gun, or how do you
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think that dynamic works or needs to adapt when Joe
Burrow is healthy to find success in the running game. Still.
Speaker 5 (06:30):
You know Zach Taylor, we knew that he came from
the Shaw McBay coaching tree, and that entire offense is
just based off of being under center and just having
blue legs and playoff packing wide zone. And we saw
that the first year that Taylor was here in twenty
eighteen with Amy Dalton, and we knew that the offense,
like you said that Burrow was coming from with Joe Brady,
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it didn't really feature any of that, and it tried
to maximize the strengths of that offense with its receivers
in the past game and the ability for Burrow to
examine in the defense from the gun, to never turn
his back from what the defense is showing him, and
to know where the ball is supposed to go at
all times, which is how he can operate behind a
bad offensive line and he can just still have an
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efficient day out there even without a reliable running game,
because it is hard to find a reliable running game
when you're never under center, right, So that's always been
the weird thing that they've tried to balance. And I
think Taylor and his offense is in a scheme has
really adjusted to what Burrow does well. But it is
hard to sustain that success over years and years because
eventually the defenses are going to be able to pick
up on it and it's just easier to defend because
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there's not as much the diversity into a lot more
predictable to defend against. So I think the conversations has
always been how can they maximize Burrow because he's the
most valuable person in that building, and they want to
make sure that he plays it as his best and
he's in a scheme that maximizes that.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
But it's always been a weird thing to balance in.
Speaker 5 (07:51):
Terms of trying to do what is best for just
you know, countering what defenses are doing to you, but
also making sure that you're not putting him in a
position where he's not like at his best. So I
think when we see sometimes when different quarterbacks are in
there and they have different strengths, sometimes we see different aspects
of the offense, and that's kind of what we're seeing
right now.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
How do you characterize what's going on on the defensive
side of the ball right now? We have talked for
weeks now, John about at times, Logan Wilson's snap count,
Cam Taylor Britt is now a healthy scratch. It feels
like at points there they're going to the young guys,
They're giving them as many opportunities as possible. Yet at
the same time guys are being held accountable. But Gino
Stone is still playing a lot and he struggled at times.
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So how do you categorize what you're seeing on the
defensive side of the ball as a whole? With Al Golden,
I don't.
Speaker 5 (08:37):
Think it's too dissimilar to when lu Narumo first took over.
After you know, the coaching change there, we remember, like
obviously what happened. Carlo has done that right, Like that
was a guy that was phased out, someone who is
well respected in the locker room, and unfortunately you notice
the difference of what the defense the new defensive corner
is falling it. And I think that's kind of what
we're seeing.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
A little bit with Al Golden and Logan Wilson and
some other guys as well.
Speaker 5 (09:00):
It came to the Brick could be another example as well,
even though he was benched obviously by the previous if
that's the coordinator, so again it's it is still surprising
to see what is happening with Wilson, but I think
that's just the reality that they're accepting and they deemed
that Bear Carters is.
Speaker 3 (09:14):
Better in that role.
Speaker 5 (09:15):
And I think in general, this defense is still really
trying to find himself and just really they're capitalizing on
the times when they do find the ball, and like
their best games have been when they can capitalize on
turnovers and when they can you know, really make the
most of those opportunities. It is still a matter of
trying to find consistency in terms of getting stops when
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they need to.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
That's what they did against Pittsburgh at the end of.
Speaker 5 (09:38):
The day and at the end of that game, and
that's how they were able to get their offensive chance
to kind of win them at the end. But yeah,
it's still, I think, very much of a work in
progress of figuring out which players are best there.
Speaker 3 (09:48):
And with Gino Stone it.
Speaker 5 (09:50):
Is tough to put a new safety in there and
try to make sure that the communication is, you know what,
the same as it is. So you know, I think
Stone Neat still needs to just prove it himself and
be more consistent, But it meant something that he was
he's still here and that they brought him back and
retained it, even just by the pay cut.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
I do wonder, you know, I saw there's the back
and forth this week about preparing for Tyrod Taylor or
preparing for Justin Fields. I know that's difficult, and you
can speak to maybe what that challenge presents itself for
the Bengals and not really knowing who's going to be
the quarterback. But against a team like the Jets who
are struggling in the passing game, could you make the
point that maybe now would be a good opportunity to
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give someone else an opportunity if if it's not the
most elite passing game you're going to go against on Sunday.
Speaker 5 (10:37):
I think the counter actually makes a lot more sense
if you.
Speaker 3 (10:41):
I mean, obviously there's.
Speaker 5 (10:42):
Respect for everybody that you go against, right and I
don't think the Bengals can afford to look anybody in
the eyes and say we don't respect you.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
And this is going to be easy, right.
Speaker 5 (10:49):
I think when you're facing a team that's clearly struggling
and is trying to find answers, that's a good time
to really test the guys that need to prove themselves, like, Hey,
this is an opportunity for you to really shine because admittedly,
like this should be.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
A game that you should do well against.
Speaker 5 (11:07):
And I think when it comes to Geno Stone and
other guys who have a lot to prove, this is
a time for them to really show why they should
still be on the field. And I think even like
last year when the defense really ended things on a
high note, in those final five or six games, they
did not go against the best offenses or the best quarterbacks,
you saw their abilities really show themselves in those opportunities.
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Because sometimes in the NFL, when parody is king and
everything like that, there's still massive disadvantages that your opponents
may have to deal with. And I think that could
be a case this week where you really give some
of those guys a chance to just just play their
hearts out and play above what they've been doing so
because that should be the expectation against teams like the
Jets who are winless.
Speaker 4 (11:46):
We saw the Bengals struggle to get any type of
pass rush with al Trey Hendrickson on Thursday. I expect
him to be on a bit of a pitch count
against the Jets. How can they do a better job
of getting pass rush should al Golden blae it's more
when Trey Hendrickson is not on the field, or just
blitz more in general to try to speed up the quarterback.
Speaker 3 (12:07):
It's tough.
Speaker 5 (12:08):
I feel like these kinds of questions are always asked
in the middle of the soon, and the answer is
that some of these problems needed to be solved in
March and April, where they just don't have like the
bodies that can, just like it is hard to scheme
pass rush when you don't have guys who can like
they should be in advotateous situations anyways, because it's a
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lot easier being a defensive lineman than an offensive.
Speaker 3 (12:31):
Line and that's just an inherent advantage in.
Speaker 5 (12:33):
Today's games, despite how clickly the ball is getting out
of your hands, and if you don't have guys in
the building who can just win one on one as
pass rushers, there's not much you can do schematically as
a coach to.
Speaker 3 (12:43):
Get around that.
Speaker 5 (12:43):
You can try games and stunts and blitzes and twists
all you want.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
But teams can also adapt to that.
Speaker 5 (12:49):
And if you just don't win in a quick manner,
if you don't have the guys who can do that,
It is.
Speaker 3 (12:54):
Really tough in order to do that.
Speaker 5 (12:55):
So that's why it still comes down to the players
actually performing up to their drests status, and that's still
not quite what we've seen from the most part of
of the likes of Miles Murphy and Schmarstir and everything.
There's still time for those guys to continue flashing the
internal those slashes into consistency, but that's why we're not
really seeing it, and it's just not that much that
the coaches can do.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
We are a couple weeks away now from the deadline
for trade or trade deadline in the NFL. The Bengals
obviously sit at three and four, but a winnable game
on Sunday, I think the Bears is going to be
an interesting matchup. What do you need to see over
the next two weeks and if you see enough over
the next two are you buying at the deadline? If
you're the Bengals' on the.
Speaker 5 (13:36):
Bengals, I would always be trying to make proactive moves.
It's just not what I quite expect them to do.
I think they're only their definition of proactive is Oh,
a travesty happened in terms of an injury and we
need to find a quick solution to that. I think
that you can equate that to what happened with Joe Slatto, right.
I think when the opportunity arises when they can offload
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a player that is no longer a value to them
for a.
Speaker 3 (14:00):
Player that they could find value.
Speaker 5 (14:02):
We talked about Billy Price for bj Hill, right, that
could be what they look at and maybe a potential
Logan Wilson type trade.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
Right.
Speaker 5 (14:08):
I think those opportunities are always there and they're always looking,
But I don't know if I'm really looking for anything
in the next two weeks in terms of like.
Speaker 3 (14:15):
Yes, they need they absolutely need to be buying here.
Speaker 5 (14:18):
I think if they find ways to win without a
reliable pass rush, that's still something that I would like
to see.
Speaker 3 (14:24):
But we've get to.
Speaker 5 (14:25):
Really seen them explore that position in terms of these deals.
But yes, finding additional pass rush, whether it be on
the edge or the interior, that should be somewhat of
a priority, just to see just to test the waters,
to see if there's anything out that they can get,
because I think still this defense needs to take that
next step and just finding a better pass rush. But
other than that I'm not really expecting much in terms
of them buying regardless of the next two weeks ago.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
John, you're the absolute best man. It's so good to
catch up with you. I look forward to doing it
again next week. What's the easiest way to follow along
with everything you got going on with your coverage of
the Bengals?
Speaker 5 (14:57):
Absolutely, Agency, Sports dot Com, Backs Cincinnati, eighties Sports Cincinnati,
and Instagram, TikTok, YouTube, wherever you get your short form
video content.
Speaker 3 (15:04):
We're all over the place.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
Love it, John, Thanks, John, appreciate you man. Go bear
Cats as well. Go cat Let's go.
Speaker 4 (15:14):
All right, we need to get the talkbacks. Yeah, sorry
that long pause there, I uh my microphone, were my
uh headphones unplugged? You did that yourself? Yeah, accidentally pulled them. Yeah,
I've done that, pulled the chair out, and it's a play.
It's a panic because it goes from just complete silence.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
Yeah, like I did. I don't know if John was
still talking. I don't know if you said something right,
So there's just awkward silence. I've done that. Middle You're like,
all right, we're gonna get the talkbacks next, even though
I had no idea what was said in the last
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it as well. Yeah, that's what I think that when
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I think of like the holidays, much like Joe Flacco.
It's a breath of fresh air. It really is. Yeah,
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Speaker 2 (17:03):
Okay, what do you make of the we mentioned the
fist pump yesterday? I used the term alligator arms to
kind of just because you described the you're pimping fist pump.
Why no, it's a bump, not a pump. Why does
no one who's different? Why wouldn't you want to extend
on a fist pump? I don't know. I don't know
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why that person does. I feel like the best fist
pumps are those where both are extended.
Speaker 4 (17:28):
Yeah, and you extend out at the same time. Man,
it feels like you're sharing a connection.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
Yes, it's a moment if I've got to reach like
Crew far in awkward basically gotta put my hand in
your pop losing balance.
Speaker 10 (17:40):
Man, I do feel bad for Joe Flacco, just sitting
here thinking about him missing his family and his children,
and hell, he just made the entire Pittsburgh Steelers secondary
his step children last Thursday and then they up and
leave town too.
Speaker 11 (17:55):
It's just just sad, man, feel bad for that guy.
Speaker 12 (17:59):
Yep, step children, Hey, Tony, Hey, Austin, Jeff, and you Richmond.
Happy Thursday, guys, Hope you've had a great week so far, Tony,
welcome back to the radio. It's awesome to have you.
I am really excited about the Bearcat scheme this weekend, Tony.
I'm excited to see you get inducted into the Hall
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of Fame. And finally I might be coming around on
the Scott Saturday. I think an apology he's doing it.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
Yep. Wow, cold day in health. It's apology season, old
day in health. Yes, it's apology season.
Speaker 8 (18:38):
Hey, thank you for the kind words yesterday, Evan from Evandale.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
What a nice sentiment.
Speaker 3 (18:46):
Can't we all just get along?
Speaker 2 (18:48):
Unfortunately not in today's world.
Speaker 13 (18:51):
Yeah, Tony, I love the Marshall story yesterday I put
a smile on my face. Man, you you want to
keep a receipt longer?
Speaker 2 (19:01):
I know.
Speaker 13 (19:02):
I'm sixty one, I'm running out of time. You still
got time. You can be a full flat adult stout.
Speaker 14 (19:10):
Out to win.
Speaker 13 (19:11):
Ben yamban Edgecumbe. I think Jimmy Clauson was a great
quarterback in the eighth grade.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
He probably was nasty. He had to be, had to be.
But yeah, hey, I normally keep receipts. Just Hey, ton
I wanted to mention to you yesterday.
Speaker 14 (19:27):
You know.
Speaker 12 (19:28):
I've lived in my house for twenty three years with
no issues, and the day that Jenna and Roman move
across the street, my car is stolen.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
What's going on? Is Emmy back in town? See you
the voice cut? His car stolen? Can I just can
I tell a story real quick? We're putting age. We
got a little brotherhood work. Let me tell you this.
So before today's show, I was at, unfortunately a funeral
a good, good family friend of ours, Abbie Morgan, who
lost her dead Richard Morgan, who a lot of people
know here in the city, especially if from Reading or Cincinnati,
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and a terrible loss. She lost her mother recently as well.
We had a funeral earlier today for her. And Abby
has been so awesome to our family that my sister,
like Abby, lives like two blocks over from where my
parents live, and we did that benefit for Roman to
get Roman and my sister somewhere where they can deep
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clean and keep somewhere that's kind of like a place
for themselves, so she can keep it clean, sanitary and
not rely on what everyone else is tracking in. And
so she is now renting Abby's parents place. So awesome
of Abby to help make that happen, but it happens
to be right across the street from the Voice. The
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Voice has lived in his place for twenty three years,
has never had any problems. The day that Jenna and
the Pikes started moving stuff in his car was stolen
from his driveway.
Speaker 4 (20:57):
I don't mean to laugh, because experienced it myself and
it sucks. There's nothing worse, but.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
He said, from for twenty three years, nothing and on
the day the Pikes came into the neighborhood stolen.
Speaker 4 (21:10):
And I loved it. First thing, let's leave a talkback.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
He was there this morning. He said, I hope you
know I'm leaving a talkback because the riff raft that's
coming into the neighborhood can't stand. That's fantastic.
Speaker 15 (21:24):
I just one thing on the Bengals too. They just
talk about Ted Carris. Obviously he's a great dude. He
comes from a great line, great people. I mean, besides
the fact, I.
Speaker 4 (21:35):
Don't know what he's talking about. He left this talkback
yesterday too. I'm just not gonna play it. I don't
know what he's talking about. Later on in the in
the talkback, I just.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
Want thing on left it again. Listen, he's still with
his mom. He's trying to figure out how.
Speaker 4 (21:56):
These work, but he left it three times according to
this all right, we're gonna keep moving.
Speaker 3 (22:01):
Gary del High.
Speaker 16 (22:02):
Hey, shout out to Joe Flacca with one of the
best Bengals quotes of all time.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
On a side note, I.
Speaker 16 (22:09):
Meant to Core earlier, but a couple of weeks ago
I tuned in late and I thought, what was Austin
telling Tony's eulogy? I thought he died. I didn't hear
the first part of the show. I had to go
on Twitter and find out he was still alive. But anyway,
welcome back, Tony, back from the dead.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
I guess great to have you back on the show.
Speaker 4 (22:27):
I clarified you did about halfway through. I clarified halfways.
Have you ever seen We're six alive?
Speaker 17 (22:33):
No, never mind, Hey, good afternoon, fellows, run Wisconsin. Call
on to us, say I'm glad to hear Tony Springfield Pike.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
Is back on the air. Wow.
Speaker 17 (22:47):
Love listening to you guys.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
And uh, there you go Springfield Pike. I liked that
one too.
Speaker 6 (22:54):
Okay, hey, be hey blind anyways, keep my name out
your mouth or I'll pour a bottle down that throat
be ah.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
I don't know what that means.
Speaker 7 (23:12):
Either, Tony Austin Shotty Austin, did you say a couple
of days ago that like they should let their kid
have a choice.
Speaker 3 (23:19):
Of what team they root for?
Speaker 7 (23:21):
Man, you really aren't a Bengals fan. Some days you
gotta just ruin that kid's life and make him a
Banngals man. Come on Columbus three to sixty as a finess.
That's why they took the football away from you, Austin.
That's why Toy's now Tony.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
Pist three sixteen.
Speaker 7 (23:37):
Tony Pisce can force all his kids to be Bengal fans.
Speaker 3 (23:39):
To be miserable, you won't.
Speaker 4 (23:42):
Wilder's gonna play in the NFL. There is, He's gonna
play for a different team.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
Have you seen this clip going around about the Jets
fan who's like a teenager. No, So he's going into
the game and he's essentially asked, like, you know, why
are you a Jets fan? He said, I have to be,
He said, I've been one my whole life. Even though
I hate this team. They make me sad, they make
me miserable, but I'll always be a fan.
Speaker 4 (24:05):
Yeah, And I'm like, man, that hits different. I think
I get that. I think you should allow, like, give
your kids. Again, I'm not a parent, so what most
people have already stopped listening. Give your kids a chance
to choose between well run organization. Yeah, like we let
Wilder decide the Eagles the Packers, you know some team
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that is well run, highly functional.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
My wife's a Buckeye fan. I'm a bear Cat. I said, Wilder,
you could pick whoever you want. He despises the Buckeyes.
Speaker 4 (24:39):
Okay, and for that reason, he's going to spend a
lot of time in the fall, you know, just trying
to do the math on how he can get into
the college football playoffs at six to seven wins.
Speaker 2 (24:51):
Math is math.
Speaker 18 (24:52):
I'm in the college shops. I'm trying to whisper the
best I can. You know, I'm reading about Socrates and
trying to understand the meaning of life, understand My spot
in the world just goes with the NBA. What's going
on today and all these crazy charges against these athletes
and gambling. Tony Pike, I know you were a college
athlete when all of it was off shore gambling. Did
you have any experiences with people asking you to throw
a certain amount of passes and no prop becks, and
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everything weren't as big, not one hundred years ago, but fifteen.
Did you have any experience years asking you about plays?
Speaker 4 (25:19):
You don't have to answer this, I don't you should.
I would at least wait until you're officially in the hall.
Should I recuse myself before you answer this question?
Speaker 6 (25:28):
That new chicken chili from Skyline looks foul?
Speaker 4 (25:33):
Well you're oh, I get it. Foul like fowl nice.
It's awesome play on words. We love those, Montgomery.
Speaker 16 (25:42):
If this is a double, please go ahead and delete me.
Speaker 19 (25:45):
I'm just trying to figure out why the Bengals seem
to never give up on players that have never.
Speaker 3 (25:49):
Shown anything on the field.
Speaker 19 (25:51):
Yet they're put a guy like cam Tayler Britt in
the doghouse and seemingly not working on his.
Speaker 3 (25:55):
Confidence or his abilities at all. And he's shown it
on the field.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
And I know J.
Speaker 19 (26:00):
Turner is good bugs with him and he's getting him
to watch film with him and trying to keep him motivated.
But the kit coverage team, really, why are we giving
up on the guy He's at least shown up before.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
Special teams aren't important.
Speaker 4 (26:12):
I would say there's probably something more to the story
that we don't know.
Speaker 2 (26:15):
I would agree.
Speaker 12 (26:17):
Hello, this is former president again.
Speaker 16 (26:20):
I'm just sitting here at Skyline in Florence eating a
wonderful lunch alone.
Speaker 2 (26:27):
Mister President, mister President, leave me alone, Leave me alone.
Speaker 10 (26:34):
Man, man, somebody go check on Logan Wilson because I
was nasty work by John to compare him to Billy Price.
Speaker 4 (26:42):
I thought I was having a rough day man, Billy Price.
Good people. Oh no, you know who just went in
the Ohio State Hall of Fame, Billy.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
Price, Tony Audie.
Speaker 3 (26:51):
What up?
Speaker 11 (26:51):
It's Ice Ice interview with my man John Sheer and
I literally just had him on my podcast yesterday.
Speaker 2 (26:58):
Everybody should be fun.
Speaker 11 (27:00):
Him at a disease sports With that being said, like
he was talking about with his pass rush, I don't
know what you do. The only thing that we can
hope for is maybe Shamar Stewart is the pass rusher
we drafted him to be.
Speaker 2 (27:20):
Yeah, I think it. There's obviously still time with Shamar,
Like I don't think anyone's hitting the panic button yet,
but you want to see some production here at some point.
Speaker 20 (27:32):
Yes, Seth and Simps Township last week was the best
week of my life. It's back to normal now, everything's
back to same old, same old, Austin. I met my
second wife at the Oval office. My third wife is
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from Wisconsin Dolls. But anyways, talk to you later.
Speaker 21 (28:00):
Thanks. Thanks, Hey, Tony, it's old man Grumpy Austin. Hello
to Tony. I don't know what in the world happened
these last couple of weeks, but it was sad when
you left, and I'm certainly pleased.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
At your back.
Speaker 3 (28:14):
Austin.
Speaker 21 (28:15):
This is the week Friday Night pick What gets its
revenge against the Yellow Jackets. For all the nonsense you've
been talking for years, go in.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
Yeah who story for you?
Speaker 19 (28:28):
WHOA.
Speaker 4 (28:30):
I was in high school. We were really bad. I've
told this before. We lost twenty straight games, and one
of those twenty was a loss at the hands of
the pick With Indians, which are our big rival. We
are not their rival, but they are our rival. It's
a little man center, but they put up seventy five
on us. They could if they wanted to Friday Night
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score one hundred against Sydney. I'm whatever the Pickwood team
total over is, take it because they are going to
beat Sydney to a pulp.
Speaker 2 (29:02):
What was the when the twenty game streak was ended? Yeah,
what was the what was the aftermath?
Speaker 6 (29:08):
Like?
Speaker 4 (29:09):
Oh man, it was legit like this. I know this
is gonna sound ridiculous. It was one of the best
days of my life.
Speaker 2 (29:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (29:15):
I couldn't even play though I had a broken arm.
But Andre Spillers kicked the game winning field goal in
overtime on the road andres to uh the custodian. We
called him, shout the custodian, Andre Spillers, and uh he
cleaned up the mess and uh put us back into
w column. And then we beat bell Fountain next week,
so we go front. I thought it was Bellefonte, not
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even close bell Fountain. We'd lost twenty straight and then
rebounded with back to back. Yeah, you better watch out
here come the Jackets finished four and eight after that
or whatever?
Speaker 17 (29:49):
What about twenty thirteen vontees Berfect bringing him back to
the Bengals.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
I still think I'm a Godell Thurman over him.
Speaker 19 (29:56):
It's a good one, Tony, top of Virginia. Really great
to have you all together. Got a question, Tony that
I'd never.
Speaker 6 (30:03):
Thought i'd ask.
Speaker 19 (30:04):
Okay, is Brandon Sorsby a Heisman candidate. This is legit,
this is for real, boys playing out of his mind.
Love to hear your take.
Speaker 3 (30:13):
Thanks, guys, go cat.
Speaker 4 (30:17):
I think who's the favorite to win the Heisman right now?
Let me pull up the current Heisman odds because it's
not Jeremiah Love and it's not Arch Manning. It shouldn't be.
Julian saying, not yet right now, Ty Simpson, Oh, the
kids from Alabama. Fernando Mendoza, all right, who's he played for?
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He's the Indiana quarterback. Okay, Julian saying his third, Oh,
Diego Pavia interesting is currently fourth. Okay, let me see
if they even have they have Gunner Stockton listed as fifth.
I think if you're going to put all those guys
on the list, you can at least put Sorsby on them.
Soresby right now is plus ten thousand. Okay, Sprinkle sprinkle, sprinkle, sprinkle,
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drip drip.
Speaker 2 (31:02):
Hey, Mike an Independence.
Speaker 22 (31:04):
I know early in the show, you guys talking about
Baltimore's chances of making the playoffs, and I don't think
Lamar is gonna be playing this week. I know he's
taken reps at practice, but I think they're, you know,
second string reps not with the first team. From what
I understand, it could be wrong on that. And then, uh,
mister Pip, you're a fifth bump guy. Doesn't he listen
(31:25):
to the show? Sure he figured out by now you
know are talking about him during the last two shows.
Speaker 6 (31:31):
Listen.
Speaker 2 (31:32):
He definitely does not listen. There's there's there's not a
guarantee that even if you work in this so there
are some people that may work here that don't even
know this shows on from noon to three.
Speaker 4 (31:40):
Yeah, I mean there is what just yesterday, somebody thought
that we go on at twelve oh six. They thought
we had the same clocks as the other stations. We don't, yep,
So which might just be a beautiful peek into our world.
Speaker 3 (31:54):
Tony Austin.
Speaker 8 (31:58):
Why noting that Shamar Steward is.
Speaker 2 (32:02):
Coming off an injury. I said that, you know, maybe.
Speaker 8 (32:05):
He just wasn't able to really go on and don't play,
and maybe he can be that past rush disruption we need.
I kind of think he's got that in him for sure.
Speaker 4 (32:19):
He's got that dog. Ian puts your ears on, big boy,
you think he's got that dog? Said that already.
Speaker 2 (32:24):
Shamar Stewart on the season less tackles than Jamar Chase,
for sure. He has two tackles on the year. Now,
he's only played in three games, so I get that
that he doesn't has not had a lot of opportunities. Correct,
it was our last one. Let me see some more,
give me a little bit more. Let's look at what's
(32:45):
coming up on the weekend ahead, College and NFL coming
up next. He SBN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station with.
Speaker 14 (32:52):
Dave Lapham's enthrinement into the Bengals Ring of Honor. We
pay tribute to the life of lap presented by Skyline.
Feeling good against Skyline Time. Now Here's Dan and Da lap.
Speaker 19 (33:05):
You were the starting left guard in the Bengals first
Super Bowl appearance.
Speaker 2 (33:08):
Describe running out of the tunnel to face the forty
nine ers that day in Detroit. Man, I don't think
my feet at the ground one time. Really, it was
such a surreal experience.
Speaker 23 (33:19):
I mean, put me on cloud nine. I was definitely
on cloud nine, maybe ninety nine. It was amazing. Thing
I remember most about that year, not that family wasn't
a big part of the football. In playing football, they
obviously really were excited about watching me play at whatever level.
It was high school, college or NFL, but to play
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in the Super Bowl. And I remember my grandfather saying,
I cannot believe. And I'm watching a grandson of mine
play in the Super Bowl in the National Football League?
Speaker 2 (33:49):
What is going on?
Speaker 14 (33:50):
For more on the life of Lap, keep it here
on ESPN fifteen thirty, The official home of the Cincinnati Bengals.
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Now do it now. College and NFL Slate coming up.
We mentioned Thursday Night Football Tonight Austin. As you look
through a week eight schedule in the National Football League,
any specific games stand out to you because is Buffalo.
Are people at all worried about Buffalo at Feign two?
Speaker 4 (34:58):
I think Buffalo fans are worried about their offense. I
don't know league wide that anyone's really worried about them. Yeah,
back to back of trust that they'll figure it out.
Speaker 2 (35:06):
I mean that their wins, they put up forty one, thirty,
thirty one and thirty one back to back losses, scoring
twenty and fourteen. They do go to Carolina and take
on the upstart four and three Carolina Panthers this weekend.
Speaker 4 (35:17):
Andy Dalton lead Panthers can't be out for a smidge
due to a high ankle sprain. But outside of that,
I mean, obviously the big one is Green Bay and Pittsburgh.
I want to see Aaron Rodgers up against the Packers.
Packers have changed. They're now going to wear their all
white uniforms because of too much yellow on the field
because of the Steelers wearing their throwbacks with the yellow helmets.
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Outside of that, though, I really am not that interesting.
Speaker 2 (35:42):
Commander's Chiefs loses a little bit because Daniels is out.
Speaker 4 (35:45):
Jayden Daniels isn't playing. To me, it's it's how does
Baltimore look against Chicago and obviously looking ahead of the
Bengals playing Chicago next week. How those two teams face.
Speaker 2 (35:54):
Enough, I'm looking about that game more about Chicago than Baltimore.
Speaker 4 (35:58):
Yeah, well, okay, fair enough. Yeah, Baltimore is still six
and a half point favorites, which I'm still confused by.
But it does look like Lamar's coming back. And then
are the Giants for real?
Speaker 2 (36:07):
Okay?
Speaker 4 (36:08):
They are going into Philadelphia against the Eagles, who aren't
great right now. They do this every year, They go
through this low where they're trying to figure it out
and then they get hot towards the end of the season.
So can Jackson Dart rebound from costing his team the
game last week? And can they go into Philly and win?
And if they do, I think the NFC East becomes
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a lot more interesting.
Speaker 2 (36:32):
When does maction start? Is that soon? I think it already? Did? Oh? Really? Okay?
The RedHawks take on Western Michigan at Yager Stadium on Saturday.
I know there's a bunch of Tuesday games. Yes, there's
a lot going on. Does UCLA keep this ride? Do
they keep things close against Indiana?
Speaker 3 (36:50):
No?
Speaker 2 (36:50):
Twenty five and a half is comfortable. No, old miss
Oklahoma feels like a playoff elimination game, would you agree?
Mm hmm. It would be both teams second loss in
the S.
Speaker 4 (37:00):
Are we surprised that Oklahoma is favored by five and
a half?
Speaker 2 (37:03):
Yes, that is surprising to me. A lot of buzz
Austin as a playoff contender outside of that power grouping
South Florida, I think this is a tricky one for him.
They're only four and a half point road favorites, but
they head into Memphis. If South Florida takes care of
business against Memphis, I don't know if they lose the
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rest of the way. I think this is their toughest
remaining game. South Florida's good. I mean, they are a talented,
talented team. That's a game of note. Remember how much
buzz South Carolina had to start the year. That's all gone.
They're one and four in the SEC. And remember how
much negativity was around the Alabama football program. All of
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a sudden, four and zero in the SEC, fourth ranked
team in the country, Missouri travels to Vanderbilt. I would
have say I would say that as well. Austin is
an elimination game for the playoffs. Both teams were one
loss fifteen Verse. Number ten BYU, the eleventh ranked team
in the nation and undefeated in the Big Twelve, goes
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to Iowa State. B yu's got back to back road
trips at Iowa State at Texas Tech. That's a tough
stretch right there. Wisconsin team total seven and a half
travels to Autson Stadium to take on Oregon. That's a
thirty one and a half point number. Texas A and
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M and LSU another big one over the weekend. Texas
A and M is a favorite. That's the third ranked
Texas A and M team in the country. If LSU
loses this, austin validitly Brian Kelly might lose his job.
I hope.
Speaker 4 (38:42):
So yeah, I want to start rooting for LSU again.
I can't do it with him at the Helm.
Speaker 2 (38:47):
Louisville coming off a win over number two Miami host
Boston College, Michigan Michigan State, Kentucky welcomes Tennessee to the
Commonwealth as well, and Arizona State, rounding out the top
twenty five slate host six and one Houston, Ohio State gotta.
Speaker 4 (39:05):
Buy this week they do? Okay, what's their remaining schedule?
Uh Penn State, but yeah, that loses a little bit
of luster. Yeah, it's not quite the same.
Speaker 15 (39:16):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (39:16):
And then I don't Purdue, you see at one game,
just focused on one game again, getting ready for the
Nitney Lions and yeah, all.
Speaker 2 (39:27):
That sort of who's coaching them now?
Speaker 4 (39:29):
Knowles, I don't know what a fall from grace that
guy's had. I'll be honest, like, I outside of like
a little bit of Ohio State and paying attention to
you see, I feel very disconnected to the rest of
college football. Like I've obviously been watching the Big Twelve
because of the NFL Ohio State a little bit.
Speaker 2 (39:48):
Yeah, I mean I've been.
Speaker 4 (39:49):
I've been down in the NFL bit all right, college
football it's tough for me because there's it's tough to
follow because I don't know any of the players anymore
because they jump around everywhere and the sec every team
is the exact same, so you never know what's gonna
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happen on a week to week basis, which is entertaining
at the very least. But like there's more the regular
season feels less important.
Speaker 2 (40:20):
Yeah, there's more parody, but I think there's I think
there's validity to what the voice said. Yesterday when he
called in about Xavier. So he was listening in the
car the other day and and baskets were being made,
and he's listening to Byron and Joe and didn't know
if the basket was made by Xavier or the other team.
Like it's hard to follow now, Yeah, it's it's a
lot different in today's day and age of college athletics.
Speaker 4 (40:42):
And not every school has like a dedicated beat reporter
that is there every day and can make it easy
to at least in my opinion, I don't know, I'm wrong.
Speaker 2 (40:57):
Let's uh, let's finish up our number two. When we
come back. We'll close the door on hour two. We've
got West Miller audio in hour three, we've got some
read and react in our number three, and we've got
your phone calls five, one, three, seven, four, nine, fifteen
thirty all still ahead on this the Thursday edition of
since E three sixty on ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati Sports Station.
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Naked a Strong one I gotta have some fun tonight.
Speaker 3 (41:41):
I'm gonna let.
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This welcome back finished up our number two since e
three sixty home of the Bengals, ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati
Sports Station. We'll grab some phone calls in our number three, five, one, three, seven,
four nine, fifteen thirty. How about this, Austin, I saw this,
Kirk Kirkstreet was talking about this just a few moments ago.
Veteran SEC official Ken Williamson has been permanently suspended from
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officiating conference games. The decision to remove the longtime referee
comes in the immediate wake of an SEC review of
eleven complaints against Williamson and his crew during the Auburn
Georgia game earlier this month. Nine of those complaints were validated.
This is something Austin we've not seen much of, Kirk
Karbstreet said, I can't remember seeing something like this happening
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in the middle of the season. It's an eye opener
and interested to see what this leads to. Now. We've
talked for years about the accountability for officials. Like the officials,
I've always thought for years they should have to ask
answer questions after games, just like players and.
Speaker 4 (42:47):
Coaches should well they do talk to the pool report, right,
at least in the NFL they do. I don't know
if they do that in college football.
Speaker 2 (42:54):
It's rare.
Speaker 4 (42:55):
I do think that this happens. It's rare that we
hear about it. Now, A full fledged suspension where a
guy just stops working.
Speaker 2 (43:04):
Maybe not.
Speaker 4 (43:05):
Maybe we don't hear about that, or maybe that doesn't
happen as frequently. But I mean, I know that they're scolded,
I know that they're graded, I know that they're talked
to about their performances. It must have been pretty egregious
to do this.
Speaker 2 (43:19):
That was my thought.
Speaker 4 (43:20):
I also wonder too, in the light of everything that's
happening in the NBA right now, you have to be
on top of this, yep, with your officials, even if
they're not doing anything bad, you cannot create the image
that this person may or may not be connected to gambling.
Speaker 2 (43:37):
Yep.
Speaker 4 (43:38):
That was part of the deal you signed up with
when you got into bed with these companies, is that
everybody's going to have to be cleaned up. And even
if what's his name, Ken Williamson, Yes, even if he's
not involved in gambling whatsoever, If you even show the
perception that you're so bad at your job that that
conversation starts popping up.
Speaker 2 (43:59):
You gotta get rid of that. Yeah, that was a
game at one point that Auburn led ten to nothing,
eventually lost the game twenty to ten. Eleven penalties for
one hundred and three yards were called on Auburn in
that game, six penalties for sixty yards were called on Georgia. Again,
if if nine of the eleven complaints made were kind
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of cooperated by by those that listen to those complaints,
I would say that that is substantial and something we
have definitely not seen a lot of. And to your
point with where sports gambling is and where that looks like,
I think it's something we might see more and more of, because,
as you mentioned, you can't give the you can't give
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any indication that something like that is happening or could
even happen in today's sports world. Let's take a break
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Speaker 2 (00:16):
Shout out to the folks at Cincy Shirts. Welcome to
our number two, Cincy three sixty. Thank you for joining us.
Your talkback's coming up in just a few moments. We'll
still talk some Wes Miller and UC basketball later on
an hour number three, we'll read and react. We'll look
ahead to the college and NFL slate coming up starting
tonight at the NFL level as well. But before we
(00:36):
do any of that, let's go to our guy from
ADAZ Sports covering the Cincinnati Bengals. John Sharon is with us.
What's up, John?
Speaker 3 (00:43):
Hey, Tony, Good to talk to you again, man.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
Always always good to talk to you.
Speaker 4 (00:46):
John.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Before I even talk to you about the Cincinnati Bengals,
how about these Cincinnati Bearcats. Are you buying what the
Bearcats are putting together right now? And are you buying
the Bearcats as Big twelve contenders?
Speaker 5 (00:58):
I really don't want too, but I also really really
want to, So you know what, I'm just gonna I'm
just gonna let go.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
I'm gonna let go. I'm gonna let them hurt me again.
Speaker 5 (01:06):
You know, I've put off these walls. They're tearing down
right now.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
I'm just I'm just going with it.
Speaker 5 (01:12):
We'll see what they do against Utah and a coup
in I guess a week or so.
Speaker 6 (01:16):
Ye.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
Yeah, I'm just like, let's just ride out. Let's just
see what happens.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
Take care of business against a very talented offense on Saturday,
and uh, and see what happens on the road in
Utah against a good squad.
Speaker 7 (01:27):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
We know what happened last Thursday, Bengals pick up a
win against the Steelers. Joe Flacca was amazing. He is
now the darling based on his press conference from yesterday
where it feels like so many people can relate to
what Joe Flacca was talking about as it relates to
the field. John, Where did you see the ability for
Joe Flacco to have as much success as he did.
Speaker 5 (01:47):
I think the more time on TAC that he had
in practice with his receivers, the better the timing was.
And I just think it's so impressive how quickly he
was able to get the ball out of his ends.
But also to be able to push the ball down
the field and hit some of those windows and some
of those in breaking routes to either Jamar Chase or
t Higgins. So the offensive line looked better because the
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ball was getting out quicker, but also he knew where
to go with the ball.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
And I think that's just what the Bengals had.
Speaker 5 (02:13):
Envisioned with bringing in a new quarterback instead of Drake
Jake grinding, someone who played on time and just you
didn't have to be he doesn't have to be completely accurate,
didn't have to have Joe Burrow type accuracy to make
this offense work, but recognizing when he's got when the
receivers have inside leverage and knowing that you know those
windows are going to open up in a fraction of
a second, and getting the ball out and just still
(02:34):
putting it on, you know, on other guy's hands, like
they're some of the best hands catchers in the NFL.
So it's just it's all about just making sure that
you're into on time and then rhythm, and.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
That's just how you had that success.
Speaker 5 (02:45):
And obviously, you know, the Steelers did him a favor
by just spamming man coverage over and over again, and
just not really adjusting.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
In that regard, and that's kind of how that day happened.
Speaker 5 (02:52):
But I was very impressed by how well he played
on time and in rhythm throughout.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
The entire game. That's just what allowed the consisten success
to keep blowing.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
You mentioned the Steelers playing man coverage. I was surprised.
Not only that, but when you think about a team
playing man, you think that they're committing more to the
box to stop the run. And yet Chase Brown ran
for nine point eight yards of carry. They ran it
as a team for six point two yards per carry.
Anything that you can point to as to why they
were all of a sudden able to find success on
the ground, I.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
Think the blocking was just better.
Speaker 5 (03:22):
I think they found some concepts with flatko under center,
because obviously the Bengals run game with Burrow, it's been
mostly in the pistol around the shotgun because he doesn't
have as much comfort, you know, under center. But Joe Flacco,
obviously he's played a long time, he's been around that
scheme a while, and I think he finds some comfort
in it, and they can kind of marry the pass
and run game a little bit coming out from that formation,
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and you know, they were able to kind of stretch
the Steelers out a little bit horizontally, and I think
dol Rytherner had a good game walking next to Rounda
Brown junior, and that opens up some holes for Chase Brown.
So you know, the Steelers, we talked about it with
Austin last week. They're really aggressive and how they defend
the run. Sometimes they can get a little bit over aggressive,
and I think the Bengals just found a nice rhythm
and flow with some of the concepts that they had
under center, and that's what led to that succeps. It
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didn't really matter where in the game it was, or
the Bengals were up, or if they were trailing or
anything like that.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
I think walking was just better.
Speaker 4 (04:12):
You mentioned Dalton Risner. Zach Taylor has not announced or
won't announced exactly who his starting guards are going to be.
Do you expect there to be a short leash for
those guys and the Bengals kind of keep rolling through
whoever they feel like he's playing good at the moment.
Speaker 8 (04:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (04:27):
I was a bit surprised that Riisner got the start
last week, considering that Fairchild he seemed to be practicing.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
And able to play, and he was active.
Speaker 5 (04:35):
I think it was more just the fact that it
was a short week and Fairchild was coming off that
knee injury, and maybe they didn't think they had enough
time to actually practice enough to play. But then Riisner,
you know, he's a natural left guard, that's where he's
played ninety percent of his snaps, and I think he
looked better there compared to right guards in some of
those first couple weeks where he was starting. I would
imagine that Fairchild is going to take that spot back
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now that he's fully healthy, just because I don't think
he was playing bad enough to warrant being benched, and
I think they value Risner just being the guy that
can fill in either spot in a pinch if some
guy gets hurt.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
I'm really interested to see in the least with Jan Rivers.
Speaker 5 (05:11):
I think that's a case where they really liked what
he did in preseason, and then the first chance that
they felt like he deserved in the regular season in
Week four, that he got that chance, and I don't
think they wanted to take him out until maybe something
drastic happens. But I would imagine that we're going to
see both rookies out there this week when they're both healthy,
and maybe it's just about giving Rivers a little bit
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more time to see if he can kind of stabilize himself,
and if not, then that's where you have Lucas Patrick
or Dalton Riisers to fill in for that spot.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
One other thing on the offense, and then I'll switch
it over the defensive side of the ball. You mentioned
Joe Flacco and the ability to go under center in
the running game. We've seen this now from different sample sizes.
When Jake Browning took over years ago, they did found
some success, find some success in the running game, and
a lot of it was drawn to the under center run.
I know that Joe Burrow doesn't want to get under
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center much. You watch what he did at LSU. They
were rarely ever under center. When it comes down to
Zach's scheme versus what Joe Burrow wants to do. How
did those conversations eventually go, Because I wonder if if
Zach has tried to do more under center, and you
speculate as if Joe doesn't want to do that and
just wants to stay and gun, or how do you
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think that dynamic works or needs to adapt when Joe
Burrow is healthy to find success in the running game. Still.
Speaker 5 (06:30):
You know Zach Taylor, we knew that he came from
the Shaw McBay coaching tree, and that entire offense is
just based off of being under center and just having
blue legs and playoff packing wide zone. And we saw
that the first year that Taylor was here in twenty
eighteen with Amy Dalton, and we knew that the offense,
like you said that Burrow was coming from with Joe Brady,
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it didn't really feature any of that, and it tried
to maximize the strengths of that offense with its receivers
in the past game and the ability for Burrow to
examine in the defense from the gun, to never turn
his back from what the defense is showing him, and
to know where the ball is supposed to go at
all times, which is how he can operate behind a
bad offensive line and he can just still have an
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efficient day out there even without a reliable running game,
because it is hard to find a reliable running game
when you're never under center, right, So that's always been
the weird thing that they've tried to balance. And I
think Taylor and his offense is in a scheme has
really adjusted to what Burrow does well. But it is
hard to sustain that success over years and years because
eventually the defenses are going to be able to pick
up on it and it's just easier to defend because
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there's not as much the diversity into a lot more
predictable to defend against. So I think the conversations has
always been how can they maximize Burrow because he's the
most valuable person in that building, and they want to
make sure that he plays it as his best and
he's in a scheme that maximizes that.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
But it's always been a weird thing to balance in.
Speaker 5 (07:51):
Terms of trying to do what is best for just
you know, countering what defenses are doing to you, but
also making sure that you're not putting him in a
position where he's not like at his best. So I
think when we see sometimes when different quarterbacks are in
there and they have different strengths, sometimes we see different aspects
of the offense, and that's kind of what we're seeing
right now.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
How do you characterize what's going on on the defensive
side of the ball right now? We have talked for
weeks now, John about at times, Logan Wilson's snap count,
Cam Taylor Britt is now a healthy scratch. It feels
like at points there they're going to the young guys,
They're giving them as many opportunities as possible. Yet at
the same time guys are being held accountable. But Gino
Stone is still playing a lot and he struggled at times.
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So how do you categorize what you're seeing on the
defensive side of the ball as a whole? With Al Golden,
I don't.
Speaker 5 (08:37):
Think it's too dissimilar to when lu Narumo first took over.
After you know, the coaching change there, we remember, like
obviously what happened. Carlo has done that right, Like that
was a guy that was phased out, someone who is
well respected in the locker room, and unfortunately you notice
the difference of what the defense the new defensive corner
is falling it. And I think that's kind of what
we're seeing.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
A little bit with Al Golden and Logan Wilson and
some other guys as well.
Speaker 5 (09:00):
It came to the Brick could be another example as well,
even though he was benched obviously by the previous if
that's the coordinator, so again it's it is still surprising
to see what is happening with Wilson, but I think
that's just the reality that they're accepting and they deemed
that Bear Carters is.
Speaker 3 (09:14):
Better in that role.
Speaker 5 (09:15):
And I think in general, this defense is still really
trying to find himself and just really they're capitalizing on
the times when they do find the ball, and like
their best games have been when they can capitalize on
turnovers and when they can you know, really make the
most of those opportunities. It is still a matter of
trying to find consistency in terms of getting stops when
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they need to.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
That's what they did against Pittsburgh at the end of.
Speaker 5 (09:38):
The day and at the end of that game, and
that's how they were able to get their offensive chance
to kind of win them at the end. But yeah,
it's still, I think, very much of a work in
progress of figuring out which players are best there.
Speaker 3 (09:48):
And with Gino Stone it.
Speaker 5 (09:50):
Is tough to put a new safety in there and
try to make sure that the communication is, you know what,
the same as it is. So you know, I think
Stone Neat still needs to just prove it himself and
be more consistent, But it meant something that he was
he's still here and that they brought him back and
retained it, even just by the pay cut.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
I do wonder, you know, I saw there's the back
and forth this week about preparing for Tyrod Taylor or
preparing for Justin Fields. I know that's difficult, and you
can speak to maybe what that challenge presents itself for
the Bengals and not really knowing who's going to be
the quarterback. But against a team like the Jets who
are struggling in the passing game, could you make the
point that maybe now would be a good opportunity to
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give someone else an opportunity if if it's not the
most elite passing game you're going to go against on Sunday.
Speaker 5 (10:37):
I think the counter actually makes a lot more sense
if you.
Speaker 3 (10:41):
I mean, obviously there's.
Speaker 5 (10:42):
Respect for everybody that you go against, right and I
don't think the Bengals can afford to look anybody in
the eyes and say we don't respect you.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
And this is going to be easy, right.
Speaker 5 (10:49):
I think when you're facing a team that's clearly struggling
and is trying to find answers, that's a good time
to really test the guys that need to prove themselves, like, Hey,
this is an opportunity for you to really shine because admittedly,
like this should be.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
A game that you should do well against.
Speaker 5 (11:07):
And I think when it comes to Geno Stone and
other guys who have a lot to prove, this is
a time for them to really show why they should
still be on the field. And I think even like
last year when the defense really ended things on a
high note, in those final five or six games, they
did not go against the best offenses or the best quarterbacks,
you saw their abilities really show themselves in those opportunities.
(11:27):
Because sometimes in the NFL, when parody is king and
everything like that, there's still massive disadvantages that your opponents
may have to deal with. And I think that could
be a case this week where you really give some
of those guys a chance to just just play their
hearts out and play above what they've been doing so
because that should be the expectation against teams like the
Jets who are winless.
Speaker 4 (11:46):
We saw the Bengals struggle to get any type of
pass rush with al Trey Hendrickson on Thursday. I expect
him to be on a bit of a pitch count
against the Jets. How can they do a better job
of getting pass rush should al Golden blae it's more
when Trey Hendrickson is not on the field, or just
blitz more in general to try to speed up the quarterback.
Speaker 3 (12:07):
It's tough.
Speaker 5 (12:08):
I feel like these kinds of questions are always asked
in the middle of the soon, and the answer is
that some of these problems needed to be solved in
March and April, where they just don't have like the
bodies that can, just like it is hard to scheme
pass rush when you don't have guys who can like
they should be in advotateous situations anyways, because it's a
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lot easier being a defensive lineman than an offensive.
Speaker 3 (12:31):
Line and that's just an inherent advantage in.
Speaker 5 (12:33):
Today's games, despite how clickly the ball is getting out
of your hands, and if you don't have guys in
the building who can just win one on one as
pass rushers, there's not much you can do schematically as
a coach to.
Speaker 3 (12:43):
Get around that.
Speaker 5 (12:43):
You can try games and stunts and blitzes and twists
all you want.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
But teams can also adapt to that.
Speaker 5 (12:49):
And if you just don't win in a quick manner,
if you don't have the guys who can do that,
It is.
Speaker 3 (12:54):
Really tough in order to do that.
Speaker 5 (12:55):
So that's why it still comes down to the players
actually performing up to their drests status, and that's still
not quite what we've seen from the most part of
of the likes of Miles Murphy and Schmarstir and everything.
There's still time for those guys to continue flashing the
internal those slashes into consistency, but that's why we're not
really seeing it, and it's just not that much that
the coaches can do.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
We are a couple weeks away now from the deadline
for trade or trade deadline in the NFL. The Bengals
obviously sit at three and four, but a winnable game
on Sunday, I think the Bears is going to be
an interesting matchup. What do you need to see over
the next two weeks and if you see enough over
the next two are you buying at the deadline? If
you're the Bengals' on the.
Speaker 5 (13:36):
Bengals, I would always be trying to make proactive moves.
It's just not what I quite expect them to do.
I think they're only their definition of proactive is Oh,
a travesty happened in terms of an injury and we
need to find a quick solution to that. I think
that you can equate that to what happened with Joe Slatto, right.
I think when the opportunity arises when they can offload
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a player that is no longer a value to them
for a.
Speaker 3 (14:00):
Player that they could find value.
Speaker 5 (14:02):
We talked about Billy Price for bj Hill, right, that
could be what they look at and maybe a potential
Logan Wilson type trade.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
Right.
Speaker 5 (14:08):
I think those opportunities are always there and they're always looking,
But I don't know if I'm really looking for anything
in the next two weeks in terms of like.
Speaker 3 (14:15):
Yes, they need they absolutely need to be buying here.
Speaker 5 (14:18):
I think if they find ways to win without a
reliable pass rush, that's still something that I would like
to see.
Speaker 3 (14:24):
But we've get to.
Speaker 5 (14:25):
Really seen them explore that position in terms of these deals.
But yes, finding additional pass rush, whether it be on
the edge or the interior, that should be somewhat of
a priority, just to see just to test the waters,
to see if there's anything out that they can get,
because I think still this defense needs to take that
next step and just finding a better pass rush. But
other than that I'm not really expecting much in terms
of them buying regardless of the next two weeks ago.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
John, you're the absolute best man. It's so good to
catch up with you. I look forward to doing it
again next week. What's the easiest way to follow along
with everything you got going on with your coverage of
the Bengals?
Speaker 5 (14:57):
Absolutely, Agency, Sports dot Com, Backs Cincinnati, eighties Sports Cincinnati,
and Instagram, TikTok, YouTube, wherever you get your short form
video content.
Speaker 3 (15:04):
We're all over the place.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
Love it, John, Thanks, John, appreciate you man. Go bear
Cats as well. Go cat Let's go.
Speaker 4 (15:14):
All right, we need to get the talkbacks. Yeah, sorry
that long pause there, I uh my microphone, were my
uh headphones unplugged? You did that yourself? Yeah, accidentally pulled them. Yeah,
I've done that, pulled the chair out, and it's a play.
It's a panic because it goes from just complete silence.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
Yeah, like I did. I don't know if John was
still talking. I don't know if you said something right,
So there's just awkward silence. I've done that. Middle You're like,
all right, we're gonna get the talkbacks next, even though
I had no idea what was said in the last
four seconds. Um, those are next. Thanks to our friends
at Cincy Schartz, thank you for listening on the Home
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Speaker 7 (15:55):
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Speaker 2 (16:01):
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Speaker 2 (16:10):
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I think of like the holidays, much like Joe Flacco.
It's a breath of fresh air. It really is. Yeah,
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Speaker 2 (17:03):
Okay, what do you make of the we mentioned the
fist pump yesterday? I used the term alligator arms to
kind of just because you described the you're pimping fist pump.
Why no, it's a bump, not a pump. Why does
no one who's different? Why wouldn't you want to extend
on a fist pump? I don't know. I don't know
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why that person does. I feel like the best fist
pumps are those where both are extended.
Speaker 4 (17:28):
Yeah, and you extend out at the same time. Man,
it feels like you're sharing a connection.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
Yes, it's a moment if I've got to reach like
Crew far in awkward basically gotta put my hand in
your pop losing balance.
Speaker 10 (17:40):
Man, I do feel bad for Joe Flacco, just sitting
here thinking about him missing his family and his children,
and hell, he just made the entire Pittsburgh Steelers secondary
his step children last Thursday and then they up and
leave town too.
Speaker 11 (17:55):
It's just just sad, man, feel bad for that guy.
Speaker 12 (17:59):
Yep, step children, Hey, Tony, Hey, Austin, Jeff, and you Richmond.
Happy Thursday, guys, Hope you've had a great week so far, Tony,
welcome back to the radio. It's awesome to have you.
I am really excited about the Bearcat scheme this weekend, Tony.
I'm excited to see you get inducted into the Hall
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of Fame. And finally I might be coming around on
the Scott Saturday. I think an apology he's doing it.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
Yep. Wow, cold day in health. It's apology season, old
day in health. Yes, it's apology season.
Speaker 8 (18:38):
Hey, thank you for the kind words yesterday, Evan from Evandale.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
What a nice sentiment.
Speaker 3 (18:46):
Can't we all just get along?
Speaker 2 (18:48):
Unfortunately not in today's world.
Speaker 13 (18:51):
Yeah, Tony, I love the Marshall story yesterday I put
a smile on my face. Man, you you want to
keep a receipt longer?
Speaker 2 (19:01):
I know.
Speaker 13 (19:02):
I'm sixty one, I'm running out of time. You still
got time. You can be a full flat adult stout.
Speaker 14 (19:10):
Out to win.
Speaker 13 (19:11):
Ben yamban Edgecumbe. I think Jimmy Clauson was a great
quarterback in the eighth grade.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
He probably was nasty. He had to be, had to be.
But yeah, hey, I normally keep receipts. Just Hey, ton
I wanted to mention to you yesterday.
Speaker 14 (19:27):
You know.
Speaker 12 (19:28):
I've lived in my house for twenty three years with
no issues, and the day that Jenna and Roman move
across the street, my car is stolen.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
What's going on? Is Emmy back in town? See you
the voice cut? His car stolen? Can I just can
I tell a story real quick? We're putting age. We
got a little brotherhood work. Let me tell you this.
So before today's show, I was at, unfortunately a funeral
a good, good family friend of ours, Abbie Morgan, who
lost her dead Richard Morgan, who a lot of people
know here in the city, especially if from Reading or Cincinnati,
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and a terrible loss. She lost her mother recently as well.
We had a funeral earlier today for her. And Abby
has been so awesome to our family that my sister,
like Abby, lives like two blocks over from where my
parents live, and we did that benefit for Roman to
get Roman and my sister somewhere where they can deep
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clean and keep somewhere that's kind of like a place
for themselves, so she can keep it clean, sanitary and
not rely on what everyone else is tracking in. And
so she is now renting Abby's parents place. So awesome
of Abby to help make that happen, but it happens
to be right across the street from the Voice. The
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Voice has lived in his place for twenty three years,
has never had any problems. The day that Jenna and
the Pikes started moving stuff in his car was stolen
from his driveway.
Speaker 4 (20:57):
I don't mean to laugh, because experienced it myself and
it sucks. There's nothing worse, but.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
He said, from for twenty three years, nothing and on
the day the Pikes came into the neighborhood stolen.
Speaker 4 (21:10):
And I loved it. First thing, let's leave a talkback.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
He was there this morning. He said, I hope you
know I'm leaving a talkback because the riff raft that's
coming into the neighborhood can't stand. That's fantastic.
Speaker 15 (21:24):
I just one thing on the Bengals too. They just
talk about Ted Carris. Obviously he's a great dude. He
comes from a great line, great people. I mean, besides
the fact, I.
Speaker 4 (21:35):
Don't know what he's talking about. He left this talkback
yesterday too. I'm just not gonna play it. I don't
know what he's talking about. Later on in the in
the talkback, I just.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
Want thing on left it again. Listen, he's still with
his mom. He's trying to figure out how.
Speaker 4 (21:56):
These work, but he left it three times according to
this all right, we're gonna keep moving.
Speaker 3 (22:01):
Gary del High.
Speaker 16 (22:02):
Hey, shout out to Joe Flacca with one of the
best Bengals quotes of all time.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
On a side note, I.
Speaker 16 (22:09):
Meant to Core earlier, but a couple of weeks ago
I tuned in late and I thought, what was Austin
telling Tony's eulogy? I thought he died. I didn't hear
the first part of the show. I had to go
on Twitter and find out he was still alive. But anyway,
welcome back, Tony, back from the dead.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
I guess great to have you back on the show.
Speaker 4 (22:27):
I clarified you did about halfway through. I clarified halfways.
Have you ever seen We're six alive?
Speaker 17 (22:33):
No, never mind, Hey, good afternoon, fellows, run Wisconsin. Call
on to us, say I'm glad to hear Tony Springfield Pike.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
Is back on the air. Wow.
Speaker 17 (22:47):
Love listening to you guys.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
And uh, there you go Springfield Pike. I liked that
one too.
Speaker 6 (22:54):
Okay, hey, be hey blind anyways, keep my name out
your mouth or I'll pour a bottle down that throat
be ah.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
I don't know what that means.
Speaker 7 (23:12):
Either, Tony Austin Shotty Austin, did you say a couple
of days ago that like they should let their kid
have a choice.
Speaker 3 (23:19):
Of what team they root for?
Speaker 7 (23:21):
Man, you really aren't a Bengals fan. Some days you
gotta just ruin that kid's life and make him a
Banngals man. Come on Columbus three to sixty as a finess.
That's why they took the football away from you, Austin.
That's why Toy's now Tony.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
Pist three sixteen.
Speaker 7 (23:37):
Tony Pisce can force all his kids to be Bengal fans.
Speaker 3 (23:39):
To be miserable, you won't.
Speaker 4 (23:42):
Wilder's gonna play in the NFL. There is, He's gonna
play for a different team.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
Have you seen this clip going around about the Jets
fan who's like a teenager. No, So he's going into
the game and he's essentially asked, like, you know, why
are you a Jets fan? He said, I have to be,
He said, I've been one my whole life. Even though
I hate this team. They make me sad, they make
me miserable, but I'll always be a fan.
Speaker 4 (24:05):
Yeah, And I'm like, man, that hits different. I think
I get that. I think you should allow, like, give
your kids. Again, I'm not a parent, so what most
people have already stopped listening. Give your kids a chance
to choose between well run organization. Yeah, like we let
Wilder decide the Eagles the Packers, you know some team
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that is well run, highly functional.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
My wife's a Buckeye fan. I'm a bear Cat. I said, Wilder,
you could pick whoever you want. He despises the Buckeyes.
Speaker 4 (24:39):
Okay, and for that reason, he's going to spend a
lot of time in the fall, you know, just trying
to do the math on how he can get into
the college football playoffs at six to seven wins.
Speaker 2 (24:51):
Math is math.
Speaker 18 (24:52):
I'm in the college shops. I'm trying to whisper the
best I can. You know, I'm reading about Socrates and
trying to understand the meaning of life, understand My spot
in the world just goes with the NBA. What's going
on today and all these crazy charges against these athletes
and gambling. Tony Pike, I know you were a college
athlete when all of it was off shore gambling. Did
you have any experiences with people asking you to throw
a certain amount of passes and no prop becks, and
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everything weren't as big, not one hundred years ago, but fifteen.
Did you have any experience years asking you about plays?
Speaker 4 (25:19):
You don't have to answer this, I don't you should.
I would at least wait until you're officially in the hall.
Should I recuse myself before you answer this question?
Speaker 6 (25:28):
That new chicken chili from Skyline looks foul?
Speaker 4 (25:33):
Well you're oh, I get it. Foul like fowl nice.
It's awesome play on words. We love those, Montgomery.
Speaker 16 (25:42):
If this is a double, please go ahead and delete me.
Speaker 19 (25:45):
I'm just trying to figure out why the Bengals seem
to never give up on players that have never.
Speaker 3 (25:49):
Shown anything on the field.
Speaker 19 (25:51):
Yet they're put a guy like cam Tayler Britt in
the doghouse and seemingly not working on his.
Speaker 3 (25:55):
Confidence or his abilities at all. And he's shown it
on the field.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
And I know J.
Speaker 19 (26:00):
Turner is good bugs with him and he's getting him
to watch film with him and trying to keep him motivated.
But the kit coverage team, really, why are we giving
up on the guy He's at least shown up before.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
Special teams aren't important.
Speaker 4 (26:12):
I would say there's probably something more to the story
that we don't know.
Speaker 2 (26:15):
I would agree.
Speaker 12 (26:17):
Hello, this is former president again.
Speaker 16 (26:20):
I'm just sitting here at Skyline in Florence eating a
wonderful lunch alone.
Speaker 2 (26:27):
Mister President, mister President, leave me alone, Leave me alone.
Speaker 10 (26:34):
Man, man, somebody go check on Logan Wilson because I
was nasty work by John to compare him to Billy Price.
Speaker 4 (26:42):
I thought I was having a rough day man, Billy Price.
Good people. Oh no, you know who just went in
the Ohio State Hall of Fame, Billy.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
Price, Tony Audie.
Speaker 3 (26:51):
What up?
Speaker 11 (26:51):
It's Ice Ice interview with my man John Sheer and
I literally just had him on my podcast yesterday.
Speaker 2 (26:58):
Everybody should be fun.
Speaker 11 (27:00):
Him at a disease sports With that being said, like
he was talking about with his pass rush, I don't
know what you do. The only thing that we can
hope for is maybe Shamar Stewart is the pass rusher
we drafted him to be.
Speaker 2 (27:20):
Yeah, I think it. There's obviously still time with Shamar,
Like I don't think anyone's hitting the panic button yet,
but you want to see some production here at some point.
Speaker 20 (27:32):
Yes, Seth and Simps Township last week was the best
week of my life. It's back to normal now, everything's
back to same old, same old, Austin. I met my
second wife at the Oval office. My third wife is
(27:54):
from Wisconsin Dolls. But anyways, talk to you later.
Speaker 21 (28:00):
Thanks. Thanks, Hey, Tony, it's old man Grumpy Austin. Hello
to Tony. I don't know what in the world happened
these last couple of weeks, but it was sad when
you left, and I'm certainly pleased.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
At your back.
Speaker 3 (28:14):
Austin.
Speaker 21 (28:15):
This is the week Friday Night pick What gets its
revenge against the Yellow Jackets. For all the nonsense you've
been talking for years, go in.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
Yeah who story for you?
Speaker 19 (28:28):
WHOA.
Speaker 4 (28:30):
I was in high school. We were really bad. I've
told this before. We lost twenty straight games, and one
of those twenty was a loss at the hands of
the pick With Indians, which are our big rival. We
are not their rival, but they are our rival. It's
a little man center, but they put up seventy five
on us. They could if they wanted to Friday Night
(28:53):
score one hundred against Sydney. I'm whatever the Pickwood team
total over is, take it because they are going to
beat Sydney to a pulp.
Speaker 2 (29:02):
What was the when the twenty game streak was ended? Yeah,
what was the what was the aftermath?
Speaker 6 (29:08):
Like?
Speaker 4 (29:09):
Oh man, it was legit like this. I know this
is gonna sound ridiculous. It was one of the best
days of my life.
Speaker 2 (29:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (29:15):
I couldn't even play though I had a broken arm.
But Andre Spillers kicked the game winning field goal in
overtime on the road andres to uh the custodian. We
called him, shout the custodian, Andre Spillers, and uh he
cleaned up the mess and uh put us back into
w column. And then we beat bell Fountain next week,
so we go front. I thought it was Bellefonte, not
(29:37):
even close bell Fountain. We'd lost twenty straight and then
rebounded with back to back. Yeah, you better watch out
here come the Jackets finished four and eight after that
or whatever?
Speaker 17 (29:49):
What about twenty thirteen vontees Berfect bringing him back to
the Bengals.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
I still think I'm a Godell Thurman over him.
Speaker 19 (29:56):
It's a good one, Tony, top of Virginia. Really great
to have you all together. Got a question, Tony that
I'd never.
Speaker 6 (30:03):
Thought i'd ask.
Speaker 19 (30:04):
Okay, is Brandon Sorsby a Heisman candidate. This is legit,
this is for real, boys playing out of his mind.
Love to hear your take.
Speaker 3 (30:13):
Thanks, guys, go cat.
Speaker 4 (30:17):
I think who's the favorite to win the Heisman right now?
Let me pull up the current Heisman odds because it's
not Jeremiah Love and it's not Arch Manning. It shouldn't be.
Julian saying, not yet right now, Ty Simpson, Oh, the
kids from Alabama. Fernando Mendoza, all right, who's he played for?
(30:37):
He's the Indiana quarterback. Okay, Julian saying his third, Oh,
Diego Pavia interesting is currently fourth. Okay, let me see
if they even have they have Gunner Stockton listed as fifth.
I think if you're going to put all those guys
on the list, you can at least put Sorsby on them.
Soresby right now is plus ten thousand. Okay, Sprinkle sprinkle, sprinkle, sprinkle,
(31:01):
drip drip.
Speaker 2 (31:02):
Hey, Mike an Independence.
Speaker 22 (31:04):
I know early in the show, you guys talking about
Baltimore's chances of making the playoffs, and I don't think
Lamar is gonna be playing this week. I know he's
taken reps at practice, but I think they're, you know,
second string reps not with the first team. From what
I understand, it could be wrong on that. And then, uh,
mister Pip, you're a fifth bump guy. Doesn't he listen
(31:25):
to the show? Sure he figured out by now you
know are talking about him during the last two shows.
Speaker 6 (31:31):
Listen.
Speaker 2 (31:32):
He definitely does not listen. There's there's there's not a
guarantee that even if you work in this so there
are some people that may work here that don't even
know this shows on from noon to three.
Speaker 4 (31:40):
Yeah, I mean there is what just yesterday, somebody thought
that we go on at twelve oh six. They thought
we had the same clocks as the other stations. We don't, yep,
So which might just be a beautiful peek into our world.
Speaker 3 (31:54):
Tony Austin.
Speaker 8 (31:58):
Why noting that Shamar Steward is.
Speaker 2 (32:02):
Coming off an injury. I said that, you know, maybe.
Speaker 8 (32:05):
He just wasn't able to really go on and don't play,
and maybe he can be that past rush disruption we need.
I kind of think he's got that in him for sure.
Speaker 4 (32:19):
He's got that dog. Ian puts your ears on, big boy,
you think he's got that dog? Said that already.
Speaker 2 (32:24):
Shamar Stewart on the season less tackles than Jamar Chase,
for sure. He has two tackles on the year. Now,
he's only played in three games, so I get that
that he doesn't has not had a lot of opportunities. Correct,
it was our last one. Let me see some more,
give me a little bit more. Let's look at what's
(32:45):
coming up on the weekend ahead, College and NFL coming
up next. He SBN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station with.
Speaker 14 (32:52):
Dave Lapham's enthrinement into the Bengals Ring of Honor. We
pay tribute to the life of lap presented by Skyline.
Feeling good against Skyline Time. Now Here's Dan and Da lap.
Speaker 19 (33:05):
You were the starting left guard in the Bengals first
Super Bowl appearance.
Speaker 2 (33:08):
Describe running out of the tunnel to face the forty
nine ers that day in Detroit. Man, I don't think
my feet at the ground one time. Really, it was
such a surreal experience.
Speaker 23 (33:19):
I mean, put me on cloud nine. I was definitely
on cloud nine, maybe ninety nine. It was amazing. Thing
I remember most about that year, not that family wasn't
a big part of the football. In playing football, they
obviously really were excited about watching me play at whatever level.
It was high school, college or NFL, but to play
(33:40):
in the Super Bowl. And I remember my grandfather saying,
I cannot believe. And I'm watching a grandson of mine
play in the Super Bowl in the National Football League?
Speaker 2 (33:49):
What is going on?
Speaker 14 (33:50):
For more on the life of Lap, keep it here
on ESPN fifteen thirty, The official home of the Cincinnati Bengals.
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Now do it now. College and NFL Slate coming up.
We mentioned Thursday Night Football Tonight Austin. As you look
through a week eight schedule in the National Football League,
any specific games stand out to you because is Buffalo.
Are people at all worried about Buffalo at Feign two?
Speaker 4 (34:58):
I think Buffalo fans are worried about their offense. I
don't know league wide that anyone's really worried about them. Yeah,
back to back of trust that they'll figure it out.
Speaker 2 (35:06):
I mean that their wins, they put up forty one, thirty,
thirty one and thirty one back to back losses, scoring
twenty and fourteen. They do go to Carolina and take
on the upstart four and three Carolina Panthers this weekend.
Speaker 4 (35:17):
Andy Dalton lead Panthers can't be out for a smidge
due to a high ankle sprain. But outside of that,
I mean, obviously the big one is Green Bay and Pittsburgh.
I want to see Aaron Rodgers up against the Packers.
Packers have changed. They're now going to wear their all
white uniforms because of too much yellow on the field
because of the Steelers wearing their throwbacks with the yellow helmets.
(35:38):
Outside of that, though, I really am not that interesting.
Speaker 2 (35:42):
Commander's Chiefs loses a little bit because Daniels is out.
Speaker 4 (35:45):
Jayden Daniels isn't playing. To me, it's it's how does
Baltimore look against Chicago and obviously looking ahead of the
Bengals playing Chicago next week. How those two teams face.
Speaker 2 (35:54):
Enough, I'm looking about that game more about Chicago than Baltimore.
Speaker 4 (35:58):
Yeah, well, okay, fair enough. Yeah, Baltimore is still six
and a half point favorites, which I'm still confused by.
But it does look like Lamar's coming back. And then
are the Giants for real?
Speaker 2 (36:07):
Okay?
Speaker 4 (36:08):
They are going into Philadelphia against the Eagles, who aren't
great right now. They do this every year, They go
through this low where they're trying to figure it out
and then they get hot towards the end of the season.
So can Jackson Dart rebound from costing his team the
game last week? And can they go into Philly and win?
And if they do, I think the NFC East becomes
(36:31):
a lot more interesting.
Speaker 2 (36:32):
When does maction start? Is that soon? I think it already? Did? Oh? Really? Okay?
The RedHawks take on Western Michigan at Yager Stadium on Saturday.
I know there's a bunch of Tuesday games. Yes, there's
a lot going on. Does UCLA keep this ride? Do
they keep things close against Indiana?
Speaker 3 (36:50):
No?
Speaker 2 (36:50):
Twenty five and a half is comfortable. No, old miss
Oklahoma feels like a playoff elimination game, would you agree?
Mm hmm. It would be both teams second loss in
the S.
Speaker 4 (37:00):
Are we surprised that Oklahoma is favored by five and
a half?
Speaker 2 (37:03):
Yes, that is surprising to me. A lot of buzz
Austin as a playoff contender outside of that power grouping
South Florida, I think this is a tricky one for him.
They're only four and a half point road favorites, but
they head into Memphis. If South Florida takes care of
business against Memphis, I don't know if they lose the
(37:26):
rest of the way. I think this is their toughest
remaining game. South Florida's good. I mean, they are a talented,
talented team. That's a game of note. Remember how much
buzz South Carolina had to start the year. That's all gone.
They're one and four in the SEC. And remember how
much negativity was around the Alabama football program. All of
(37:47):
a sudden, four and zero in the SEC, fourth ranked
team in the country, Missouri travels to Vanderbilt. I would
have say I would say that as well. Austin is
an elimination game for the playoffs. Both teams were one
loss fifteen Verse. Number ten BYU, the eleventh ranked team
in the nation and undefeated in the Big Twelve, goes
(38:08):
to Iowa State. B yu's got back to back road
trips at Iowa State at Texas Tech. That's a tough
stretch right there. Wisconsin team total seven and a half
travels to Autson Stadium to take on Oregon. That's a
thirty one and a half point number. Texas A and
(38:28):
M and LSU another big one over the weekend. Texas
A and M is a favorite. That's the third ranked
Texas A and M team in the country. If LSU
loses this, austin validitly Brian Kelly might lose his job.
I hope.
Speaker 4 (38:42):
So yeah, I want to start rooting for LSU again.
I can't do it with him at the Helm.
Speaker 2 (38:47):
Louisville coming off a win over number two Miami host
Boston College, Michigan Michigan State, Kentucky welcomes Tennessee to the
Commonwealth as well, and Arizona State, rounding out the top
twenty five slate host six and one Houston, Ohio State gotta.
Speaker 4 (39:05):
Buy this week they do? Okay, what's their remaining schedule?
Uh Penn State, but yeah, that loses a little bit
of luster. Yeah, it's not quite the same.
Speaker 15 (39:16):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (39:16):
And then I don't Purdue, you see at one game,
just focused on one game again, getting ready for the
Nitney Lions and yeah, all.
Speaker 2 (39:27):
That sort of who's coaching them now?
Speaker 4 (39:29):
Knowles, I don't know what a fall from grace that
guy's had. I'll be honest, like, I outside of like
a little bit of Ohio State and paying attention to
you see, I feel very disconnected to the rest of
college football. Like I've obviously been watching the Big Twelve
because of the NFL Ohio State a little bit.
Speaker 2 (39:48):
Yeah, I mean I've been.
Speaker 4 (39:49):
I've been down in the NFL bit all right, college
football it's tough for me because there's it's tough to
follow because I don't know any of the players anymore
because they jump around everywhere and the sec every team
is the exact same, so you never know what's gonna
(40:10):
happen on a week to week basis, which is entertaining
at the very least. But like there's more the regular
season feels less important.
Speaker 2 (40:20):
Yeah, there's more parody, but I think there's I think
there's validity to what the voice said. Yesterday when he
called in about Xavier. So he was listening in the
car the other day and and baskets were being made,
and he's listening to Byron and Joe and didn't know
if the basket was made by Xavier or the other team.
Like it's hard to follow now, Yeah, it's it's a
lot different in today's day and age of college athletics.
Speaker 4 (40:42):
And not every school has like a dedicated beat reporter
that is there every day and can make it easy
to at least in my opinion, I don't know, I'm wrong.
Speaker 2 (40:57):
Let's uh, let's finish up our number two. When we
come back. We'll close the door on hour two. We've
got West Miller audio in hour three, we've got some
read and react in our number three, and we've got
your phone calls five, one, three, seven, four, nine, fifteen
thirty all still ahead on this the Thursday edition of
since E three sixty on ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati Sports Station.
Speaker 1 (41:14):
You've been listening to Football in the NATI on ESPN
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Still us here every show at ESPN fifteen thirty dot com.
Speaker 20 (41:37):
Naked a Strong one I gotta have some fun tonight.
Speaker 3 (41:41):
I'm gonna let.
Speaker 2 (41:42):
This welcome back finished up our number two since e
three sixty home of the Bengals, ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati
Sports Station. We'll grab some phone calls in our number three, five, one, three, seven,
four nine, fifteen thirty. How about this, Austin, I saw this,
Kirk Kirkstreet was talking about this just a few moments ago.
Veteran SEC official Ken Williamson has been permanently suspended from
(42:07):
officiating conference games. The decision to remove the longtime referee
comes in the immediate wake of an SEC review of
eleven complaints against Williamson and his crew during the Auburn
Georgia game earlier this month. Nine of those complaints were validated.
This is something Austin we've not seen much of, Kirk
Karbstreet said, I can't remember seeing something like this happening
(42:28):
in the middle of the season. It's an eye opener
and interested to see what this leads to. Now. We've
talked for years about the accountability for officials. Like the officials,
I've always thought for years they should have to ask
answer questions after games, just like players and.
Speaker 4 (42:47):
Coaches should well they do talk to the pool report, right,
at least in the NFL they do. I don't know
if they do that in college football.
Speaker 2 (42:54):
It's rare.
Speaker 4 (42:55):
I do think that this happens. It's rare that we
hear about it. Now, A full fledged suspension where a
guy just stops working.
Speaker 2 (43:04):
Maybe not.
Speaker 4 (43:05):
Maybe we don't hear about that, or maybe that doesn't
happen as frequently. But I mean, I know that they're scolded,
I know that they're graded, I know that they're talked
to about their performances. It must have been pretty egregious
to do this.
Speaker 2 (43:19):
That was my thought.
Speaker 4 (43:20):
I also wonder too, in the light of everything that's
happening in the NBA right now, you have to be
on top of this, yep, with your officials, even if
they're not doing anything bad, you cannot create the image
that this person may or may not be connected to gambling.
Speaker 2 (43:37):
Yep.
Speaker 4 (43:38):
That was part of the deal you signed up with
when you got into bed with these companies, is that
everybody's going to have to be cleaned up. And even
if what's his name, Ken Williamson, Yes, even if he's
not involved in gambling whatsoever, If you even show the
perception that you're so bad at your job that that
conversation starts popping up.
Speaker 2 (43:59):
You gotta get rid of that. Yeah, that was a
game at one point that Auburn led ten to nothing,
eventually lost the game twenty to ten. Eleven penalties for
one hundred and three yards were called on Auburn in
that game, six penalties for sixty yards were called on Georgia. Again,
if if nine of the eleven complaints made were kind
(44:21):
of cooperated by by those that listen to those complaints,
I would say that that is substantial and something we
have definitely not seen a lot of. And to your
point with where sports gambling is and where that looks like,
I think it's something we might see more and more of, because,
as you mentioned, you can't give the you can't give
(44:43):
any indication that something like that is happening or could
even happen in today's sports world. Let's take a break
hour three your phone calls, Read and React coming up
next on the Home of the Bengals ESPN fifteen to
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