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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Sincy three sixty about Cincinnati from Cincinnati, Sponsorman Park by
Cincy Shirts, Cincy Shirts all since the All Day. This
is ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
Welcome back. It is our number two. We've got Joe
Danoman from Fox nineteen joining us in just a few
moments to talk a little Reds. We can talk a
little bit Bengals. But before any of that, Austin, it's
always good when we get taken care of in the
studio here, you know what I mean, Yes, it is.
And food drops are one of my favorite things, and
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we just happened to have one from the Montgomery in
boat House. Now. I don't want to start family drama
because you know, I like both Montgomery and locations. But
the boat House has taken care of us quite a
couple of times. Here.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
Tom's always on vacation.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
Tom is on vacation.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
This is our busiest time of the year. My brother
Tom has been on vacation for the last two weeks.
Y know when he's coming back. It's unbelievable. I've been
trying to train him for forty years, taking time, yeah, yeah,
thinking time to figure things out.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
Uh, you have brought some food for us today, some
pulled pork, some ribs, and as nice as that is,
you guys are also taking care of folks around the
holidays as well, because I don't know if many folks
know this, because they think of Montgomery and you think
of dinner or big time occasions. You guys are also
open for lunch now as well.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
Open for lunch through the holidays all the way up
to the twenty third. So yeah, I hope you'll come
down and see it's it's a great place to celebrate,
take your take your clients out, take your staff out
for lunch.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
Whatever. We'd love to see you. How big of a
time is it this year for holiday get togethers? In
part of you guys completely booked for those through the holidays.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
All the rooms are booked about every day, plenty of
room in the main dining room. So I hope you
come on down. What time lunch wise? What time are
you guys opening? We open at eleven o'clock for lunch
and we serve continuously all day long until nine thirty
every night.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
Man, is there anything better than the holidays season Montgomery
in We love it.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
It's just a great time. Everybody's happy, everybody's having a
great time.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
Now will your brother will Tom be back and time
for Christmas? We have no idea. He just goes what
we're going to do with him, He just goes, Yeah.
I mean, so there's a boat house in mont gun
it's just self self run. Now, he's got a good
crew up there.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
He's got he's got a good crew, so they're probably
better off when he's not there.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
Absolutely any any specials anything like that, you guys are
running during the holiday season.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
What we have our one hundred dollars gift cards on
sale for eighty dollars. Cool, best deal in town.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
So go for lunch, yep, grab a gift card yep,
and save twenty bucks. Absolutely doesn't get any better than that.
Christmas shopping done does not get any better than that, sir.
You guys are are obviously a staple in this city.
And uh and we're very appreciative of this and h
and what you guys do uh here with us as well.
But uh, thank you for stopping in, thank you for
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opening the doors of lunch, thank you for having me.
Last time you were in, I told you I'm gonna
get my family down there. Yep. I'm still waiting. I've
yet to do so, Austin. I told him during the break.
It's not because of lack of wanting to. It's just
at times, can I get a babysitter to take the
kids down? Oh? Babysit? You guys come down at eat
Oh there you go. Kids that can't say no to that?
(03:14):
All right, you guys just got a daycare. You're opening
up at the boat House. I'll do it for you
for sure. That's three of them, not just one. I
got them. I can handle them. Don't worry. Awesome, Thank
you so much for coming by, Tony, God bless you.
Thank you for having me. You have a great holiday
season now through December twenty third, Montgomery in the boat House.
And we've not been able to get a hold of Tom.
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But are they doing that in Montgomery as well? All right,
eleven am.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
You don't like Tom, now's a good time to go.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
The time to go, eleven am. They open up Montgomery
and Montgomery location are down at the boat House, and
uh it is. It's more than worth your while. Thank
you for stopping by. Thanks, we appreciate you. We'll take
our quick break. We'll come back. Joe Danam and Fox nineteen.
We'll talk some Bengals and Reds next on the SBN
fifteenth Cincinnati Sports Station. Welcome back since he three sixty
(04:10):
ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station. Let's dive right into it.
Our Tuesday guest bump back a couple of minutes. Well,
let's face it, Uh, we receive free Montgomery In. So
Danaman had to wait. I feel like I haven't talked
to Danaman in months. Yeah, because of the last couple
of Tuesdays, I've been out. But Danaman is joining us
now from Fox nineteen. Joey d what's going on.
Speaker 4 (04:30):
Hie Pike?
Speaker 5 (04:31):
How are you?
Speaker 2 (04:32):
I'm good? How are you?
Speaker 4 (04:34):
Let me ask you a question about eating montgomery In?
Speaker 6 (04:37):
Sure?
Speaker 4 (04:38):
Now, my wife will not go to Montgomery In with
me because when I get a full slab of rips,
I won't stop maybe eating to clean my hands and
clean my faith, because what's the point. Sure, I'm up.
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I'm of the school that you eat the entire slab
before you start to clean. Otherwise you're gonna go fifteen
napkins about twenty seven wet wipes. So why not just
wait until the very end and create a big mouth
of wet wipes and napkins when you're dute.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
So you're with me on that, I'm with you now.
I'll I'll lick the fingers a couple of times, but
I'm not I'm not bringing the wet nap the wet
wipes out every time I pick up the ribs.
Speaker 4 (05:23):
It's antie licking of the finger guy.
Speaker 5 (05:28):
But like, do you not take a drink of anything
or do you put your your your grubby paws on
the on the glass.
Speaker 4 (05:36):
Well, you're using the bottom of your palms then to
get your drink right, you know, you're dripping it there
and drinking that way, not to use the fingers.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
That's well said, well said.
Speaker 5 (05:45):
I think we should put like a bucket of water,
you know, like you do with them, you know they
do with water colors, dip and just you know, go
in there and do that.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
I think that would I mean, it makes sense, doesn't it.
I mean, I think Dean's still out there. I can
run out there and ask him real quick. I see
if you'll incorporate that. Okay, that was in your opinion, Joe,
was the Kyle Schwarb or anything that actually had traction.
I caught myself buying in earlier today, I'm like, all right,
there's enough out there. This seems like it could be real.
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I also think that there's an element to it where,
if you're Kyle Schwarber, it's probably smart to lead on
in a way like that, for Philly to say, Okay,
we will give you a fifth year. We'll bump this
up a little bit more. Did it ever feel like
an actual, realistic possibility for you?
Speaker 4 (06:28):
That's why I was always skeptical. And I go back
to even interviewing him in the summer when the Phillies
came to town and we asked him a couple of
questions about coming to Cincinnati. And I'm not saying he
was disingenuous, but you think about a guy who was
playing the long game of planting those seeds, even back
at the All Star Game, when he came to Cincinnati,
and when he visited Middletown a couple of weeks ago,
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just to go out there and say, you know what,
it would be a cool thing. Young Kyle Schwarber always
dreamed of playing for the Reds, and that bumps up.
Maybe the Phillies offered just a little bit. So I
can't really speak from his end on how much interest
there was, or if he was using that as smoke
to get more money from the Phillies. But I can
say with all sincerity the Reds made a realistic run
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to try to get him. And when I say realistic,
obviously there were limitations. They were never going to be
able to reach the amount of money that Philadelphia ultimately
gave him. But when it came to getting creative with
the deal and being flexible and wanting to use deferred
money and being willing to trade players to make the
maths work, Yeah, the Reds saw an opportunity here to
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sell seats, to sell tickets, and to get a guy
in here who could be a big difference maker for
the team on the field and inside the clubhouse. Now
the question is how do they pivot? Because if they
were willing to go out and get creative and do
everything they could to try to get Kyle Schwarber, does
that then open the door for them to look at
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other free agents? I will, at least agent on his tier.
I doubt it. It kind of felt like a rare
opportunity of a guy maybe taking a bit of a
hometown discount, maybe making an exception in the Red payroll
and financial plans to bring a guy like him in here.
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So I don't know if they're gonna pivot to a
SAT tier, but certainly I think the interest was real
for the Reds, and I think they actually did make
a pretty darn good effort to get him. It just
was the Phillies are a great team, and they have
a lot of money, and at.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
The end that one out switch gears to the Cincinnati Bengals.
It was a very Newsworthy day yesterday. Can you rate
these three from least to most surprising? Jermaine Burton has
been released, Trey Hendrickson's going to have surgery now, and
the Dolphins Bengals game was flexed out of prime.
Speaker 4 (08:54):
Time, So least surprising would be Jermaine Burton. I don't
know what put fourteen weeks for this team to finally
cut bait and say we need to move on from
this guy. I will put number two at flex. I
think we all saw that coming for multiple weeks, even
though Devenglos are now very interesting to watch with Joe
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Burrow back, and all of a sudden, the Dolphins are
a playoff contender who were as hot as anybody in
the AFC right now, and then Trey Hendrickson. It just
kind of felt like it was getting to this point. Certainly,
no one knew if it was going to get to surgery,
but we all kind of had an inkling in our
head that perhaps Trey Hendrickson's time in Cincinnati was over,
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that he wouldn't take another snap for the Bengals. And
it feels that way unless some kind of a miracle
run happens and they can extend this season by two months,
and that feels about as likely as Lloyd Christmas and
you're telling me there's a chance, So yeah, I would
rank them leads, Surprise, Tremaine Burton, then Flex and then
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Trey Hendrickson. And it's a difficult thing with Trey Hendrickson
right because it feels like in sports people pick sides.
And it felt like the pendulum swung a little bit
with Trey Hendrickson and the way things worked out with
the contract and the holdout and him not being here
at training camp, and then it swung again when he
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was mysteriously out we never knew exactly what the injury was,
and then finally it ultimately gets to this point and
I'm just curious how his time will be remembered in
Cincinnati if he ultimately doesn't come back here next year.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
So the time in Cincinnati, they do have the option
to franchise tag him again. When you look at the
current roster at defensive end, Shamar Stewart is an unknown,
Miles Murphy has played better, JOSEPHO size in a contract year.
Is there is there any path out there that you
do see the Bengals trying to franchise tag him and
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whether that's tag him to play again next year or
tag him to make it easier to trade, is that
a viable option?
Speaker 4 (10:57):
I mean, you talk about Leveridge at Kyle Schwarmer had
imagine the leverage that Trey Hendrickson would have looking at
this roster, and I think if you look at Jamar Stewart,
Miles Murphy, Joseph o'side that that certainly can't be your
top three defensive ends going into a season and you
expect to be a Super Bowl contending team. Those guys
might be rotational players, they might be solid pros, but
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if you need a difference maker as a defensive end,
none of those three guys has shown they can be
a consistent chaos creator in the backfield, and the Bengals
had that with Trey Henderson, and when they had that,
they were at their absolute best defensively. But if you're
looking at this from the Bengals perspective on Trey Hendrickson,
even though he poisoned the water, so to speak, and
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maybe this was Trey Hendrickson's play to upset ownership enough
that they just wanted to get rid of him, wipe
their hands clean, and let him go in the offseason.
If you have an asset like Trey Hendrickson, it's hard
to let him walk out the door without tagging him
with the idea of trading him. Now, you would get
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a compensatory pick if you didn't do that. That's a
very important factor here. But if I were looking at
the guy just as an asset, I would think the
best business decision moved to make for the Bengals would
be to tag him with the idea of trading him.
But they just found out this season that maybe the
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trade market for Trey Hendrickson isn't as good as they
thought it would be. And now he's coming off what's
pretty major surgery. When you're talking about a core muscle surgery,
that would keep him out for a month and a half.
What's the trademarket going to be for a guy that's
his age coming off that surgery and has proven he
can be kind of difficult to work with and you
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don't want to get stuck paying whatever the price will
be for Trey Hendrickson and then not have a trade partner.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
The feel around this team, Joe in your opinion, because
it felt and I thought they took that ten point
lead in the fourth quarter against buffalok Man they can
do this, that they can make this run and then
to have it fall apart in a way that's all
too familiar this year, the third and fifteen scramble from
Josh Allen, which put the final nail in the coffin.
From just a team standpoint, from just a vibe standpoint, Joe,
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where do you feel like this team is right now
with four games remaining, but dealing with such a blow
on Sunday.
Speaker 4 (13:23):
It's the most what could have been feeling inside that
room that I've felt for the Cincinnati Bengals, because what
we saw Sunday was it. I mean, they're the Bangles
are holding the bill to eighteen points midway through the
fourth quarter, Joe Burrow, Jamar Chase and T Higgins look
like their elite selves, and you say to yourself, oh
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my gosh, did James Cook fumble? This is what it
felt like in twenty twenty one. In twenty twenty two
that when the Bengals needed a play I thought back
immediately when James Cook fumbled to the Von Bell remind
Andre Stevenson fumble inside the five yard line against New
England Patriots, and those kind of feelings where it just
felt like the Bengals were always going to find a
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way to get a win even when it felt like
they deserve to lose a game. And it felt that
way on Sunday in Buffalo against there should be playoff
team in December. The Bengals are going to come here
and do this and already being pointed at as kind
of the it team, the dangerous team again in the
AFC North. Now that talk outside of the Cincinnati from
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all the national talking heads is going to get even louder,
and the Bengals might do this, they might grab momentum,
and then you just realize, in twenty twenty five, the
defense just can't get stops when they absolutely have to
have them, and that, to me was my worry before
the game. I figured it would be a fourth quarter game.
I figured the Bengals would have a chance to win
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the game in the fourth quarter, but could they get
that one or two stops they have to get and
they couldn't do it. And it's epitomized by third and
fifth team, third and fifteen, and no one has eyes
on the quarterback running free for twenty yards in a
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game ceiling play.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
The quarterback Josh Allen, by the way, not Philip Rivers.
Speaker 4 (15:16):
Yes, right, we all know. Everybody knows, okay, Josh Allen,
you're going to take a safe pass here in a
completion to keep the clock rolling, or he's going to
be looking to run to keep the clock rolling and
try to get a first down. And it's a lack
of instincts right on the defense. That's gonna be the
biggest thing. We can talk about talent and coaching and whatever,
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but there is a lack of instincts from too many
players on this defense. And you saw it on that
play on.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
The offensive side of the ball. I was surprised how
many folks I had in my mentions talking about Joe
Burrow let them down. This is Joe Burrow losses. On
Joe Burrow, he made a bad play. I think if
he gets that snap cleanly, he can change arm angles.
And he made the right read in my opinion, just
made a bad play. Should have just should have ate
it or should have thrown the ball away. He didn't.
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The next play. That's a fluke thing where a defensive
lineman gets his hand on the ball. Ye, but it
drove into me over the last couple of days, Joe,
Joe Burrow essentially has to play perfect football for this
team to have a chance to win. And I can't
imagine how stressful and frustrating that would be as a
player to have that feeling every single game.
Speaker 4 (16:23):
And he's said that publicly before that he has to
play damn near perfect for this team to win games,
and especially with his defense in twenty twenty five, and yes,
that has to be It has to be frustrating. And
you think about where Joe Burrow is now. He turns
twenty nine, if I'm not mistaken, in the next couple
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of days, and so we're talking about a quarterback who
next year turns thirty years old. And when we talk
about the window all the time with Joe Burrow, and
the window is not closing. He's got so much good
football left in him, but he's not getting younger, and
it's another year waste of a quarterback who can do
what he did on Sunday against Josh Allen and the
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Buffalo Bills. The Bills came into that game guys right
number one in the NFL in pass defense, giving up
one hundred and sixty yards per game, and Joe Burrow
threw for two hundred and eighty yards and four touchdowns
against the Buffalo Bills. They scored thirty four points. I mean,
how hard must it be for a quarterback who throws
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for these kinds of numbers, who throws for this many touchdowns,
and the team just keeps losing games, And it's just
like us watching the team. It has to be even
harder for him being on the team, looking around the room,
watching what they are on defense and wondering what is
there to show for for a team who knew what
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they had to fix, who zeroed in on the defense
in the offseason, changing the coordinator, all the draft picks,
adding a free agent or two that haven't been real
difference makers this year. What is there to show for
for all that change, And if you're Joe Burrow, that's
got to be the scariest thing going forward. Sure, any
quarterback and Patrick Mahons might not make the playoffs this year,
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You're not going to make the playoffs every single year,
and at some point you just have to kind of
eat a season and hope your team sees the mistakes
that they have and the shortcomings they have and fix
those holes, and the Kansas City Chiefs will. The problem
is the Bengals have had multiple offseasons to look at
the holes, find their shortcomings and haven't been able to
fix them yet. So if you're Joe Burrow, how frustrating
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must that be to think about next year? Okay, they
spend all this time in the off season, all this
capital in the draft, and the change is minimal for
the Bengals right now. That has to be frustrated.
Speaker 5 (18:46):
The big positive though on offense has been the offensive line.
I mean, they're playing as good as a Bengals offensive
line has played in like ten years. How do you
explain that turnaround? And have they done anything different or
is it just reps have equalled better performance?
Speaker 4 (19:04):
I certainly think the fact that they settled in on
Dalton Reisner being that guy has really helped this team
in this offensive line gel And sometimes you look back
at the guy's life Orlando Brown and Ted Kris who
midseason had really bad performances. Sometimes it's a wake up
call and they just played better football because of it.
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But certainly the fact that Dalton Reisner has come in
and stabilized that position has helped this team a lot.
They're running the ball better, they're protecting the quarterback better,
and when you do that with all these weapons. Right now,
the Bengals are putting up all these points. I don't
even know what they're averaging with Joe Burrow as quarterback,
But when you score thirty four in Buffalo and you
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score the number of points that this team, this team
has scored even with Joe Flacco. Going back to Flacco,
and that was the one thing we talked about when
he got traded for here in Cincinnati's how are you
going to protect a quarterback who can't move with this
offensive line? And they've answered the belt and good on them.
But again, when you look at this team, it's offense
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is never the problem. It almost always seems and it
always points back to a defense to me that just
lacks instincts, that that lacks playmakers. And right now it's
obviously dragging a season down to the point where they
face elimination in week fifteen.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
Going forward, for this team, you mentioned facing elimination, and
I know that the door is still slightly open. Do
you change how you handle the final games on the
schedule if you are officially eliminated from playoff contention? Or
do you play every game on the schedule the same
way going out?
Speaker 4 (20:45):
Is this you hinting that possibly.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
Not playing Joe Burrow that would be it?
Speaker 4 (20:49):
Yes, No, I've come around to understanding what Joe is about.
And you know, we can talk here about protecting a
quarterback from himself and putting himself in harm's way, and
the so many questions this organization has in the offseason.
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So the one question they don't need to add that
mountain is their quarterback health. But if Joe is built
and wired one way set to play football, he is
said now multiple times, it's what I love to do,
it's what I get paid to do, and he wants
to put on a show. And people will push back
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that athletes are entertainers. And yeah, I get that, But
if he's paid to put on a show and he
wants to put on a show, let the man cook.
Let him do what he wants to do. Now, if
you get to week eighteen and he's healthy and it
means absolutely nothing, it's the final game of the season,
certainly you might bring him out a little bit earlier,
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just just to protect him. But when you still have
four games left and you know how NFL coaches and
NFL players are why to win. This is the business
they're in. They're in the business of winning games, even
if it doesn't mean anything to playoff contention. Just look
back to the game against Miami when they almost lost
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Joe Burrow. That's just what NFL coaches and players do.
They're wired to try to win. And if Joe wants
to play, I think he's going to and I'm on
board with it now. I wasn't a few weeks ago,
but the way he's played, the way he's talked about
it has changed my opinion and I'm looking forward to
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watching what he does here the next few weeks.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
I always look forward to what you have coming up
over the next couple of weeks. I'm more interested in
what you have coming up this week? Tell us more
about anything Fox nineteen's got going on.
Speaker 4 (22:44):
Still waiting for this Sincy three to sixty night at Bengals. Now,
still waiting for Austin and Tony to show up to
our show live tomorrow night, Wednesday Night, Newport on the
Levee at six o'clock. Miles Murphy will be one of
our guests. We are working on a second guest. Keep
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locked to my socials for that announcement tomorrow. As we
go inside the bank was a locker room and beg
players with a four to nine record to make public
appearances in front of their fans. It's an Olympic event.
You know how funny this is. I don't want to
give away too much and peel the curtain back, but
you should see guys like Evan McPherson gets the biggest
(23:27):
kick out of watching the Fox nineteen crew go around
the locker room trying to find guests for this show.
Speaker 5 (23:34):
I would imagine you got a no from Trey Henderson.
Speaker 4 (23:39):
Trey Henderson's agent actually send us an email a few
months ago saying that Trey would like to be on
the show. I said, are you sure about that? Are
you really sure about that? But we tried to get
We tried to get Sean Clifford recently, and Sean couldn't
make it for whatever reason. And Evan's like, man, that's tough,
and Jarry's Rapple says to He's like, we can't even
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get the third stream quarterback, and Evan goes, no, no, no,
he's the fourth drift.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
Well, keep trying, keep trying, Danaman, We appreciate you. Have
a great rest of your week. Thank you. Joe Daniman
from Fox nineteen. This is since he three sixty your
talkbacks next, Oh goodness. ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports station.
Do you owe ten thousand dollars or more to the irs?
Speaker 7 (24:27):
Like Joe talkbacks, Press the microphone and record your message
or Austin in tone.
Speaker 5 (24:34):
Please keep it clean and don't be mean.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
Yeah, don't be mean.
Speaker 8 (24:38):
A a sprinkle sprinkled, drip drips.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
It's that time for talkbacks.
Speaker 7 (24:43):
It's our favorite tarter Sincy three sixty, So Austin, buddy,
play those talkbacks on your screen. Please try not to sabotages.
Speaker 2 (24:54):
Dude, due no sabotaging for today's talkbacks.
Speaker 5 (24:58):
Something that's that's interesting out the Philip Rivers thing. JJ Watt,
who I believe has the Colts game. Oh, he said, Uh,
fun fact learned in production meetings. Philip Rivers ran the
same offense as the Colts for his son Gunner's high
school team this year. Oh he said. He and Shane
Stiken spoke weakly about it, discussing plays and even film,
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So clearly there's already some familiarity there. So Phil Rivers
three under the yard, three tugs. Yeah you're saying no, Now,
I wouldn't put it past him.
Speaker 9 (25:32):
Okay, So I'm assuming you guys have heard of the
hipocraticos for those who have not, it's the oath all
doctors take where they swear to do no harm for
the patient. I'm also assuming the professional that assessed higgins
neurological status during the game was a medical doctor. Now
hown hell did that doctor clear him during the game
when he's clearly rattled and he had just gotten out
of concussion protocol and then after the game he fails
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concussion protocol and he's back in it is?
Speaker 2 (25:58):
It is mind bobbing was putting their license on the line.
Something stinks, guys.
Speaker 5 (26:03):
It is a surreal situation. It is completely understand Hey.
Speaker 10 (26:07):
Fellas, I would like to say a little piece on
Trey Hendrickson here. He got paid, he jaked the season
and then he ft the Bengals in the A wow.
Other NFL teams see this, and he's played his last
game in the league.
Speaker 7 (26:23):
This is an excuse.
Speaker 4 (26:24):
He will get out of here.
Speaker 11 (26:25):
You he's a guard, Hey fellas, it's Vin coming out
of retirement. Had to weigh in on yesterday's talkbacks. Listen, Tony,
I get it, man, it's not Joe Burrow's fault. But
we've seen this before. Last year against the Chiefs. Man,
if we had the ball in the lead and Joe
Burrow fumbles. Last year against the Baltimore Ravens, we have
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the ball in the lead and Joe Burrow throws an interception,
what are we doing?
Speaker 2 (26:49):
Man?
Speaker 12 (26:50):
I play with kids.
Speaker 13 (26:54):
Bick one the better defender, the eleven man Bengals or
the one piece of ammunition in the shirt pocket of
Deputy Barney five protecting Mayberry.
Speaker 14 (27:10):
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Speaker 2 (27:31):
We'll get you taken care of. Okay, thank you, savior.
Fans are adorable with your eight.
Speaker 4 (27:39):
Those would do you?
Speaker 2 (27:40):
Since? Well, here's the number.
Speaker 8 (27:42):
It's been two hundred and sixty one days since your
old lady left you for another man?
Speaker 2 (27:48):
Oh oh, mugget gosh sick?
Speaker 5 (27:51):
Could you finish that one?
Speaker 1 (27:53):
Well?
Speaker 7 (27:53):
Isn't this a fun Tuesday in Cincinnati sports?
Speaker 2 (27:57):
Glad we have you guys.
Speaker 15 (27:59):
Thanks, Happy Tuesday. The sad thing for me about Burton
is if they'd have spent five minutes talking to Kirby
Smarter Nick Saban, they never would have drafted the guy.
They let whosh overrun that whole decision making process. And
Zach pounding on the table after that third round pick
is gonna haun.
Speaker 5 (28:20):
Us for years. I'll never forget that video of Ze
who's so fired up.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
They were ready, man, they were.
Speaker 8 (28:27):
Marcus from the groove.
Speaker 16 (28:29):
I just don't know why in this city, this great
city where we have Skyline Penn Station Sancy shirts with
their great great t shirts and ideas, the best sports
talk show radio is why can't we have anything nice
(28:50):
when it comes to our sports.
Speaker 7 (28:52):
I just don't get it.
Speaker 5 (28:53):
We did get the Kelly Cup back in two thousand
and eight, Breach.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
Quick doubled dip.
Speaker 15 (28:59):
If Schwarber We're from Montana, nobody in the fan base
would have gotten so wound up on this. The fact
that he was from Middletown has no bearing on whether
the Reds are going to open their wallets or not.
Speaker 5 (29:10):
I think it did, though. I think that was part
of it. Yeah, which which is maybe part of the problem,
Like if it took a guy from here to even
consider it, then that's an issue. But I do think
it played a role.
Speaker 12 (29:24):
I know everybody's kind of mad that the Reds missed
down on Kyle Schwarber, but I think this is a
big opportunity for Nick Crawl. I'm not going to underestimate
his ability to find the next injury riddled utility player
that we're going to hope as a bounce back season.
Speaker 2 (29:40):
Okay, good point. Who do they go with that?
Speaker 17 (29:42):
Quick question? Just because I'm curious. So if Philip Rivers
was to work out and they hired him and he
started on Sunday against Seattle or whatever, would he then
be disqualified from the Hall of Fame ballot because isn't
there supposed to be like a five year waiting period
in between playing and nomination or something.
Speaker 2 (29:59):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (29:59):
Thought I think he has to take a snap from
what I read, if he takes a snap with the Colts,
it resets his clock, so you would have to wait
another five years. Okay if he were to get into
there to even be on the ballot.
Speaker 7 (30:14):
Hello, this is former President Ronald Reagan and well following
this year's Bengals team reminds me of that time when
I had to walk behind the presidential limo in a
long parade. It's left me exhausted.
Speaker 16 (30:32):
Up.
Speaker 6 (30:32):
Guys been good holding Kentucky. Always talked about schwarbur Man.
It's got me missing baseball, just thinking how close we
was to winning it this year. I mean, we had
the Dodgers on the ropes. He had that lead early week,
had just held on that second game, no chance we'd
have lost that third game with abad pitching man, we
was right there. I'm looking forward to the start of
the new season. How many days the pitchers and catches I.
Speaker 18 (30:51):
Don't know, dare if I don't know what's more pathetic
as if Bob chiefs and he refusing to pay anyone
the fact he has the media bodies running around town
tell us all that they had a chance, they never
had a chance, and now they don't have a chance
the next season. Imagine what one bat would have done
to this line up, to this fandom. You would have
increased attendance having the hometown guy here refuse to do it.
(31:12):
And now we're gonna try and back our way into
the playoffs again with eighty wins, just to be knocked
out in the first round.
Speaker 2 (31:18):
Nothing never changes in this town.
Speaker 5 (31:20):
Man, Tough, I wish I could say he was wrong.
Speaker 4 (31:23):
Tough Tony dek deck George in the valley, you could
see you. I'm a huge coward. I haven't left any
song backs in a couple of weeks since my beloved
Blue lost Ohio State. Oh, let's fishing it. I'm gonna
go smoke a couple of years.
Speaker 5 (31:42):
Thanks, George.
Speaker 3 (31:42):
Getting the last few days being a Cincinnati sports fan
really blows.
Speaker 2 (31:48):
That's all I.
Speaker 5 (31:48):
Got, Tough, I get it, man, Hey, it's will in Mainville.
It will.
Speaker 19 (31:54):
And the reason the Bengal was lost Sunday happened with
eight minutes left, when the Bengal scored a touchdown and
Dave back them. Uhh I heard him say, damn and
then he said, that's the dagger for the Bengals to
put in.
Speaker 2 (32:11):
Oh who said that? Who did?
Speaker 20 (32:15):
Hey guys, Hey, yea Austin. I think yesterday hit the
nail on the head. They just need to have the
twelve best teams in this whole playoff thing. And uh,
I don't think UC's got a chance against Navy unless
they pulled the seven diamond defense out of my bault,
because uh, I think Navy's is gonna run all over
that three stack they It just ain't gonna work too well.
Speaker 4 (32:36):
I don't think that's all I got, guys.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
With talk to you later.
Speaker 5 (32:39):
We'll like a month is enough time to come up
with the defense to prepare for what the midshipmen have
to do.
Speaker 2 (32:46):
Oh yeah, I would imagine they're gonna think they're going
to dial into that, you know, dial in Tyson vite checkers.
Speaker 15 (32:53):
Somebody brought this up to me and I've never really
thought about it, But.
Speaker 4 (32:58):
Has there ever been a quarterback.
Speaker 2 (33:00):
Those top five in the league at the time he
was playing and missed the playoffs three years in a row,
because that's what's about to happen with Burrow and the Bengals.
I understand he was hurt earlier this year, but let's.
Speaker 9 (33:10):
Be honest, they wouldn't have made it anyways, because Flacco
played about as good as you can play.
Speaker 8 (33:15):
I mean, you couldn't have.
Speaker 2 (33:15):
Played much better.
Speaker 5 (33:16):
Not necessarily true.
Speaker 2 (33:18):
That is a huge indictment on this franchise.
Speaker 5 (33:22):
Flaco played pretty terrible in the last two games that
he played. Yeah, the first one that comes to mind
for me would have been Matthew Stafford all those years
in Detroit. Yeah, but I don't know, and I tried
to think of doing.
Speaker 17 (33:37):
High energy how we.
Speaker 21 (33:41):
Field Williams, Darnell Burton, Deontay von Oh and the great
Lazelle Durden.
Speaker 5 (33:49):
And now let's add in Bobby Miller.
Speaker 22 (33:53):
Wait, what, don't feel bad, Tony? I took the bait
too rep in the city out here in Sonny, hot Zona.
Speaker 2 (34:01):
What up, Tony?
Speaker 6 (34:01):
What up?
Speaker 2 (34:02):
Buddy? Yup? Yup?
Speaker 22 (34:03):
Jeff Carr had me too, man. I was sitting there
looking like, Yo, this is gonna happen.
Speaker 2 (34:07):
But it is what it is.
Speaker 22 (34:08):
When you're a diehard fans, you're gonna live by the sword,
You're gonna die by the swore.
Speaker 2 (34:12):
Yo, James Rapene got me wondering.
Speaker 22 (34:14):
About Joe Burrow also having Palmer flashbacks.
Speaker 5 (34:17):
Last talk back y'all.
Speaker 22 (34:18):
For a little bit, because me and a wife is
heading to Florida, Florida.
Speaker 5 (34:24):
On the cruise. My jeez, I seen you lady.
Speaker 2 (34:29):
You can't hide that money.
Speaker 13 (34:30):
Ron.
Speaker 5 (34:30):
He said he wants to feel a little bit of
heat and humidity instead.
Speaker 2 (34:33):
Of being a Florida.
Speaker 5 (34:35):
Is James Rapine putting Burrow in the palmer boat? Is
he doing that? Because if he is, he'll never be
on this program ever again.
Speaker 2 (34:43):
Well, James has been itching to be because he keeps
tagging all this stuff.
Speaker 23 (34:48):
Hey, I think you all need to check on your boy,
Jeff Carr.
Speaker 8 (34:50):
He's over there on.
Speaker 23 (34:51):
TikTok making posts and it don't look good man. That
boy won a number twelve. He is down in the dumps.
Speaker 4 (34:56):
Now.
Speaker 23 (34:56):
Look, we might have lost out on Adam done two
point zero for Crawl to come out and say our
financial goal is to break even each year. You had
your highest attendance rating since twenty fifteen last season. Don't
tell me you can't go out there and spend more money.
Speaker 2 (35:09):
If I got to.
Speaker 23 (35:09):
Watch the Pittsburgh Pirates go out here and go all
in and build around Paul Schemes.
Speaker 2 (35:13):
What in the world are we doing? How are we looking?
Not good? They told us last night we're going to
need him this week.
Speaker 4 (35:38):
From Alabama, a big four. That catch number four.
Speaker 8 (35:53):
I told myself I was not going to get my
hopes up, don't believe the story, But then I did.
And it's not even like they went down swinging and missing.
Speaker 2 (36:03):
Yeah, no, no, no no.
Speaker 8 (36:04):
They were up at the bottom of the ninth bases
loaded and all they needed was a base hit, and
they didn't swing. They went down looking un serious organization
on serious ownership. Sell the team, Bob.
Speaker 21 (36:22):
Get hey, guys, Jeff and you Richmond. Happy Tuesday. Three
quick points for you. Trey Hendrickson. I would never allow
him to put on a Bengals uniform again. Nick Krawl
did what Nick Krawl does, which is absolutely nothing. I
would not look for them to make a move, and
they'll lose ninety games this year. Again, what a fun
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run it was for one year, Tony. Finally, John Cunningham,
why is there not more heat on him for what
he's doing?
Speaker 2 (36:52):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (36:55):
Joe in Baltimore.
Speaker 17 (36:58):
I might be crazy, but I got a funny feeling
that Angles are going to beat the Ravens on Sunday,
the Dolphins are going to beat the Steelers Monday night,
and we're.
Speaker 4 (37:07):
All going to be listening to you guys.
Speaker 22 (37:09):
On Monday, Yeah, listening about how we're only two games
back with three to go.
Speaker 4 (37:14):
Yep.
Speaker 13 (37:15):
Knowing the Ravens play New England and Pittsburgh plays the Lions,
there's a real.
Speaker 2 (37:20):
Shot Pittsburgh Miday. Bengals need to win four in a row, which,
by the way, they've won four out of thirteen games
this year, but they do need to win four in
a row. Baltimore needs to go two and two, and
the Pittsburgh Steelers need to finish the season one and three.
There's your path there it is. We're out of time.
We'll finish up Hour two next Football in the Natty.
Football in the Natty. We'll open up the phone lines
(37:41):
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Speaker 4 (37:47):
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Speaker 2 (38:01):
Really quickly, our number three is next. This is Sincy
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will get to your phone calls to kick off the
third and final hour of the show. We'll check in
with mo later in the afternoon. I did mention before
we went to break, based on a talkback, what that
playoff path, although small, would be for the Cincinnati Bengals,
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It's really quite simple. In the AFC North, the Bengals
would have to do something that they've obviously taken thirteen
games to do, which is acquire four more wins on
the season, those being against the Ravens, Dolphins, Cardinals, and Browns.
If the Bengals could do that, they would then need
the Baltimore Ravens to lose two of their final four,
(38:42):
and if the Bengals went out, that means the Ravens
would have to lose one of their final three. Ravens
play after the Bengals, the Patriots, the Packers, and the Steelers.
I don't think it's out of the question Austin to say, Okay,
the Ravens could lose one of those three. The other
thing that the Bengals would need to happen would be
the Pittsburgh Steelers need to go one in three down
the stretch. Pittsburgh's final remaining schedule against the Miami Dolphins
(39:08):
in Pittsburgh Monday Night Football this coming Monday. They are
on the road at Detroit the following week. They then
go to Cleveland, which is always a war, and then
they finish the season at home against the Baltimore Ravens.
Which of those three is the least likely to happen
Bengals win four in a row. No, Pittsburgh. I would
(39:33):
think Pittsburgh. They played semi decent. Yeah on Sunday. Now,
I don't believe in them. They've been up and down.
But if they lose against the Dolphins, then it gets interesting.
Speaker 5 (39:43):
Yeah, it really does. And you know, obviously the Dolphins
winning doesn't really matter, and.
Speaker 2 (39:49):
The Bengals lose, then we won't have any more of
these conversations this year. No, they would be mathematically elimiting.
There's nothing I want more than to go through that scenario.
That are our talkbacker just left yep, that Monday conversation.
We're all Dolphins fans.
Speaker 5 (40:06):
By the way, the Bengals are doing something that they
never ever do on Sunday when they play the Baltimore
Ravens at pay Corpse Stadium. It will be the date
of the game is December fourteenth. The Bengals will be
wearing their orange helmets, white jerseys, white socks, and them
(40:29):
orange britches. So the Bengals are going orange, white, orange
white at home.
Speaker 4 (40:36):
Now.
Speaker 5 (40:37):
They've worn white at home before often in the first
two or three weeks of the season. They have never
worn white to my knowledge, at home in the month
of December, and they certainly have never worn the white
on orange at home at any point.
Speaker 2 (40:54):
There's your Uni Coombo.
Speaker 5 (40:55):
So the Bengals obviously gonna seems like force the Ravens
into wearing purple on Baltimore on Sunday, and you know
it's going to be tough for them because the heat.
Speaker 2 (41:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (41:06):
I don't know if you saw the forecast. We were
talking about this before the game. Because I don't have
anything to do on Sunday week, maybe I'll go to
the game. I looked up the forecast. Eighteen degrees.
Speaker 2 (41:16):
There we go.
Speaker 5 (41:17):
Good seats still available?
Speaker 2 (41:19):
Yeah, boy, our number three more Bengals some college hoops.
Speaker 5 (41:24):
I hate it.
Speaker 2 (41:24):
By the way, I don't think we should be wearing
white on orange at home. Your phone calls in mowegger
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Speaker 2 (00:17):
Welcome back. It is our number two. We've got Joe
Danoman from Fox nineteen joining us in just a few
moments to talk a little Reds. We can talk a
little bit Bengals. But before any of that, Austin, it's
always good when we get taken care of in the
studio here, you know what I mean, Yes, it is.
And food drops are one of my favorite things, and
(00:37):
we just happened to have one from the Montgomery in
boat House. Now. I don't want to start family drama
because you know, I like both Montgomery and locations. But
the boat House has taken care of us quite a
couple of times. Here.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
Tom's always on vacation.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
Tom is on vacation.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
This is our busiest time of the year. My brother
Tom has been on vacation for the last two weeks.
Y know when he's coming back. It's unbelievable. I've been
trying to train him for forty years, taking time, yeah, yeah,
thinking time to figure things out.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
Uh, you have brought some food for us today, some
pulled pork, some ribs, and as nice as that is,
you guys are also taking care of folks around the
holidays as well, because I don't know if many folks
know this, because they think of Montgomery and you think
of dinner or big time occasions. You guys are also
open for lunch now as well.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
Open for lunch through the holidays all the way up
to the twenty third. So yeah, I hope you'll come
down and see it's it's a great place to celebrate,
take your take your clients out, take your staff out
for lunch.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
Whatever. We'd love to see you. How big of a
time is it this year for holiday get togethers? In
part of you guys completely booked for those through the holidays.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
All the rooms are booked about every day, plenty of
room in the main dining room. So I hope you
come on down. What time lunch wise? What time are
you guys opening? We open at eleven o'clock for lunch
and we serve continuously all day long until nine thirty
every night.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
Man, is there anything better than the holidays season Montgomery
in We love it.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
It's just a great time. Everybody's happy, everybody's having a
great time.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
Now will your brother will Tom be back and time
for Christmas? We have no idea. He just goes what
we're going to do with him, He just goes, Yeah.
I mean, so there's a boat house in mont gun
it's just self self run. Now, he's got a good
crew up there.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
He's got he's got a good crew, so they're probably
better off when he's not there.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
Absolutely any any specials anything like that, you guys are
running during the holiday season.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
What we have our one hundred dollars gift cards on
sale for eighty dollars. Cool, best deal in town.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
So go for lunch, yep, grab a gift card yep,
and save twenty bucks. Absolutely doesn't get any better than that.
Christmas shopping done does not get any better than that, sir.
You guys are are obviously a staple in this city.
And uh and we're very appreciative of this and h
and what you guys do uh here with us as well.
But uh, thank you for stopping in, thank you for
(02:53):
opening the doors of lunch, thank you for having me.
Last time you were in, I told you I'm gonna
get my family down there. Yep. I'm still waiting. I've
yet to do so, Austin. I told him during the break.
It's not because of lack of wanting to. It's just
at times, can I get a babysitter to take the
kids down? Oh? Babysit? You guys come down at eat
Oh there you go. Kids that can't say no to that?
(03:14):
All right, you guys just got a daycare. You're opening
up at the boat House. I'll do it for you
for sure. That's three of them, not just one. I
got them. I can handle them. Don't worry. Awesome, Thank
you so much for coming by, Tony, God bless you.
Thank you for having me. You have a great holiday
season now through December twenty third, Montgomery in the boat House.
And we've not been able to get a hold of Tom.
(03:36):
But are they doing that in Montgomery as well? All right,
eleven am.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
You don't like Tom, now's a good time to go.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
The time to go, eleven am. They open up Montgomery
and Montgomery location are down at the boat House, and
uh it is. It's more than worth your while. Thank
you for stopping by. Thanks, we appreciate you. We'll take
our quick break. We'll come back. Joe Danam and Fox nineteen.
We'll talk some Bengals and Reds next on the SBN
fifteenth Cincinnati Sports Station. Welcome back since he three sixty
(04:10):
ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station. Let's dive right into it.
Our Tuesday guest bump back a couple of minutes. Well,
let's face it, Uh, we receive free Montgomery In. So
Danaman had to wait. I feel like I haven't talked
to Danaman in months. Yeah, because of the last couple
of Tuesdays, I've been out. But Danaman is joining us
now from Fox nineteen. Joey d what's going on.
Speaker 4 (04:30):
Hie Pike?
Speaker 5 (04:31):
How are you?
Speaker 2 (04:32):
I'm good? How are you?
Speaker 4 (04:34):
Let me ask you a question about eating montgomery In?
Speaker 6 (04:37):
Sure?
Speaker 4 (04:38):
Now, my wife will not go to Montgomery In with
me because when I get a full slab of rips,
I won't stop maybe eating to clean my hands and
clean my faith, because what's the point. Sure, I'm up.
(04:58):
I'm of the school that you eat the entire slab
before you start to clean. Otherwise you're gonna go fifteen
napkins about twenty seven wet wipes. So why not just
wait until the very end and create a big mouth
of wet wipes and napkins when you're dute.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
So you're with me on that, I'm with you now.
I'll I'll lick the fingers a couple of times, but
I'm not I'm not bringing the wet nap the wet
wipes out every time I pick up the ribs.
Speaker 4 (05:23):
It's antie licking of the finger guy.
Speaker 5 (05:28):
But like, do you not take a drink of anything
or do you put your your your grubby paws on
the on the glass.
Speaker 4 (05:36):
Well, you're using the bottom of your palms then to
get your drink right, you know, you're dripping it there
and drinking that way, not to use the fingers.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
That's well said, well said.
Speaker 5 (05:45):
I think we should put like a bucket of water,
you know, like you do with them, you know they
do with water colors, dip and just you know, go
in there and do that.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
I think that would I mean, it makes sense, doesn't it.
I mean, I think Dean's still out there. I can
run out there and ask him real quick. I see
if you'll incorporate that. Okay, that was in your opinion, Joe,
was the Kyle Schwarb or anything that actually had traction.
I caught myself buying in earlier today, I'm like, all right,
there's enough out there. This seems like it could be real.
(06:13):
I also think that there's an element to it where,
if you're Kyle Schwarber, it's probably smart to lead on
in a way like that, for Philly to say, Okay,
we will give you a fifth year. We'll bump this
up a little bit more. Did it ever feel like
an actual, realistic possibility for you?
Speaker 4 (06:28):
That's why I was always skeptical. And I go back
to even interviewing him in the summer when the Phillies
came to town and we asked him a couple of
questions about coming to Cincinnati. And I'm not saying he
was disingenuous, but you think about a guy who was
playing the long game of planting those seeds, even back
at the All Star Game, when he came to Cincinnati,
and when he visited Middletown a couple of weeks ago,
(06:50):
just to go out there and say, you know what,
it would be a cool thing. Young Kyle Schwarber always
dreamed of playing for the Reds, and that bumps up.
Maybe the Phillies offered just a little bit. So I
can't really speak from his end on how much interest
there was, or if he was using that as smoke
to get more money from the Phillies. But I can
say with all sincerity the Reds made a realistic run
(07:12):
to try to get him. And when I say realistic,
obviously there were limitations. They were never going to be
able to reach the amount of money that Philadelphia ultimately
gave him. But when it came to getting creative with
the deal and being flexible and wanting to use deferred
money and being willing to trade players to make the
maths work, Yeah, the Reds saw an opportunity here to
(07:36):
sell seats, to sell tickets, and to get a guy
in here who could be a big difference maker for
the team on the field and inside the clubhouse. Now
the question is how do they pivot? Because if they
were willing to go out and get creative and do
everything they could to try to get Kyle Schwarber, does
that then open the door for them to look at
(07:57):
other free agents? I will, at least agent on his tier.
I doubt it. It kind of felt like a rare
opportunity of a guy maybe taking a bit of a
hometown discount, maybe making an exception in the Red payroll
and financial plans to bring a guy like him in here.
(08:18):
So I don't know if they're gonna pivot to a
SAT tier, but certainly I think the interest was real
for the Reds, and I think they actually did make
a pretty darn good effort to get him. It just
was the Phillies are a great team, and they have
a lot of money, and at.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
The end that one out switch gears to the Cincinnati Bengals.
It was a very Newsworthy day yesterday. Can you rate
these three from least to most surprising? Jermaine Burton has
been released, Trey Hendrickson's going to have surgery now, and
the Dolphins Bengals game was flexed out of prime.
Speaker 4 (08:54):
Time, So least surprising would be Jermaine Burton. I don't
know what put fourteen weeks for this team to finally
cut bait and say we need to move on from
this guy. I will put number two at flex. I
think we all saw that coming for multiple weeks, even
though Devenglos are now very interesting to watch with Joe
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Burrow back, and all of a sudden, the Dolphins are
a playoff contender who were as hot as anybody in
the AFC right now, and then Trey Hendrickson. It just
kind of felt like it was getting to this point. Certainly,
no one knew if it was going to get to surgery,
but we all kind of had an inkling in our
head that perhaps Trey Hendrickson's time in Cincinnati was over,
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that he wouldn't take another snap for the Bengals. And
it feels that way unless some kind of a miracle
run happens and they can extend this season by two months,
and that feels about as likely as Lloyd Christmas and
you're telling me there's a chance, So yeah, I would
rank them leads, Surprise, Tremaine Burton, then Flex and then
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Trey Hendrickson. And it's a difficult thing with Trey Hendrickson
right because it feels like in sports people pick sides.
And it felt like the pendulum swung a little bit
with Trey Hendrickson and the way things worked out with
the contract and the holdout and him not being here
at training camp, and then it swung again when he
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was mysteriously out we never knew exactly what the injury was,
and then finally it ultimately gets to this point and
I'm just curious how his time will be remembered in
Cincinnati if he ultimately doesn't come back here next year.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
So the time in Cincinnati, they do have the option
to franchise tag him again. When you look at the
current roster at defensive end, Shamar Stewart is an unknown,
Miles Murphy has played better, JOSEPHO size in a contract year.
Is there is there any path out there that you
do see the Bengals trying to franchise tag him and
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whether that's tag him to play again next year or
tag him to make it easier to trade, is that
a viable option?
Speaker 4 (10:57):
I mean, you talk about Leveridge at Kyle Schwarmer had
imagine the leverage that Trey Hendrickson would have looking at
this roster, and I think if you look at Jamar Stewart,
Miles Murphy, Joseph o'side that that certainly can't be your
top three defensive ends going into a season and you
expect to be a Super Bowl contending team. Those guys
might be rotational players, they might be solid pros, but
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if you need a difference maker as a defensive end,
none of those three guys has shown they can be
a consistent chaos creator in the backfield, and the Bengals
had that with Trey Henderson, and when they had that,
they were at their absolute best defensively. But if you're
looking at this from the Bengals perspective on Trey Hendrickson,
even though he poisoned the water, so to speak, and
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maybe this was Trey Hendrickson's play to upset ownership enough
that they just wanted to get rid of him, wipe
their hands clean, and let him go in the offseason.
If you have an asset like Trey Hendrickson, it's hard
to let him walk out the door without tagging him
with the idea of trading him. Now, you would get
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a compensatory pick if you didn't do that. That's a
very important factor here. But if I were looking at
the guy just as an asset, I would think the
best business decision moved to make for the Bengals would
be to tag him with the idea of trading him.
But they just found out this season that maybe the
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trade market for Trey Hendrickson isn't as good as they
thought it would be. And now he's coming off what's
pretty major surgery. When you're talking about a core muscle surgery,
that would keep him out for a month and a half.
What's the trademarket going to be for a guy that's
his age coming off that surgery and has proven he
can be kind of difficult to work with and you
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don't want to get stuck paying whatever the price will
be for Trey Hendrickson and then not have a trade partner.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
The feel around this team, Joe in your opinion, because
it felt and I thought they took that ten point
lead in the fourth quarter against buffalok Man they can
do this, that they can make this run and then
to have it fall apart in a way that's all
too familiar this year, the third and fifteen scramble from
Josh Allen, which put the final nail in the coffin.
From just a team standpoint, from just a vibe standpoint, Joe,
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where do you feel like this team is right now
with four games remaining, but dealing with such a blow
on Sunday.
Speaker 4 (13:23):
It's the most what could have been feeling inside that
room that I've felt for the Cincinnati Bengals, because what
we saw Sunday was it. I mean, they're the Bangles
are holding the bill to eighteen points midway through the
fourth quarter, Joe Burrow, Jamar Chase and T Higgins look
like their elite selves, and you say to yourself, oh
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my gosh, did James Cook fumble? This is what it
felt like in twenty twenty one. In twenty twenty two
that when the Bengals needed a play I thought back
immediately when James Cook fumbled to the Von Bell remind
Andre Stevenson fumble inside the five yard line against New
England Patriots, and those kind of feelings where it just
felt like the Bengals were always going to find a
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way to get a win even when it felt like
they deserve to lose a game. And it felt that
way on Sunday in Buffalo against there should be playoff
team in December. The Bengals are going to come here
and do this and already being pointed at as kind
of the it team, the dangerous team again in the
AFC North. Now that talk outside of the Cincinnati from
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all the national talking heads is going to get even louder,
and the Bengals might do this, they might grab momentum,
and then you just realize, in twenty twenty five, the
defense just can't get stops when they absolutely have to
have them, and that, to me was my worry before
the game. I figured it would be a fourth quarter game.
I figured the Bengals would have a chance to win
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the game in the fourth quarter, but could they get
that one or two stops they have to get and
they couldn't do it. And it's epitomized by third and
fifth team, third and fifteen, and no one has eyes
on the quarterback running free for twenty yards in a
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game ceiling play.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
The quarterback Josh Allen, by the way, not Philip Rivers.
Speaker 4 (15:16):
Yes, right, we all know. Everybody knows, okay, Josh Allen,
you're going to take a safe pass here in a
completion to keep the clock rolling, or he's going to
be looking to run to keep the clock rolling and
try to get a first down. And it's a lack
of instincts right on the defense. That's gonna be the
biggest thing. We can talk about talent and coaching and whatever,
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but there is a lack of instincts from too many
players on this defense. And you saw it on that
play on.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
The offensive side of the ball. I was surprised how
many folks I had in my mentions talking about Joe
Burrow let them down. This is Joe Burrow losses. On
Joe Burrow, he made a bad play. I think if
he gets that snap cleanly, he can change arm angles.
And he made the right read in my opinion, just
made a bad play. Should have just should have ate
it or should have thrown the ball away. He didn't.
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The next play. That's a fluke thing where a defensive
lineman gets his hand on the ball. Ye, but it
drove into me over the last couple of days, Joe,
Joe Burrow essentially has to play perfect football for this
team to have a chance to win. And I can't
imagine how stressful and frustrating that would be as a
player to have that feeling every single game.
Speaker 4 (16:23):
And he's said that publicly before that he has to
play damn near perfect for this team to win games,
and especially with his defense in twenty twenty five, and yes,
that has to be It has to be frustrating. And
you think about where Joe Burrow is now. He turns
twenty nine, if I'm not mistaken, in the next couple
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of days, and so we're talking about a quarterback who
next year turns thirty years old. And when we talk
about the window all the time with Joe Burrow, and
the window is not closing. He's got so much good
football left in him, but he's not getting younger, and
it's another year waste of a quarterback who can do
what he did on Sunday against Josh Allen and the
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Buffalo Bills. The Bills came into that game guys right
number one in the NFL in pass defense, giving up
one hundred and sixty yards per game, and Joe Burrow
threw for two hundred and eighty yards and four touchdowns
against the Buffalo Bills. They scored thirty four points. I mean,
how hard must it be for a quarterback who throws
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for these kinds of numbers, who throws for this many touchdowns,
and the team just keeps losing games, And it's just
like us watching the team. It has to be even
harder for him being on the team, looking around the room,
watching what they are on defense and wondering what is
there to show for for a team who knew what
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they had to fix, who zeroed in on the defense
in the offseason, changing the coordinator, all the draft picks,
adding a free agent or two that haven't been real
difference makers this year. What is there to show for
for all that change, And if you're Joe Burrow, that's
got to be the scariest thing going forward. Sure, any
quarterback and Patrick Mahons might not make the playoffs this year,
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You're not going to make the playoffs every single year,
and at some point you just have to kind of
eat a season and hope your team sees the mistakes
that they have and the shortcomings they have and fix
those holes, and the Kansas City Chiefs will. The problem
is the Bengals have had multiple offseasons to look at
the holes, find their shortcomings and haven't been able to
fix them yet. So if you're Joe Burrow, how frustrating
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must that be to think about next year? Okay, they
spend all this time in the off season, all this
capital in the draft, and the change is minimal for
the Bengals right now. That has to be frustrated.
Speaker 5 (18:46):
The big positive though on offense has been the offensive line.
I mean, they're playing as good as a Bengals offensive
line has played in like ten years. How do you
explain that turnaround? And have they done anything different or
is it just reps have equalled better performance?
Speaker 4 (19:04):
I certainly think the fact that they settled in on
Dalton Reisner being that guy has really helped this team
in this offensive line gel And sometimes you look back
at the guy's life Orlando Brown and Ted Kris who
midseason had really bad performances. Sometimes it's a wake up
call and they just played better football because of it.
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But certainly the fact that Dalton Reisner has come in
and stabilized that position has helped this team a lot.
They're running the ball better, they're protecting the quarterback better,
and when you do that with all these weapons. Right now,
the Bengals are putting up all these points. I don't
even know what they're averaging with Joe Burrow as quarterback,
But when you score thirty four in Buffalo and you
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score the number of points that this team, this team
has scored even with Joe Flacco. Going back to Flacco,
and that was the one thing we talked about when
he got traded for here in Cincinnati's how are you
going to protect a quarterback who can't move with this
offensive line? And they've answered the belt and good on them.
But again, when you look at this team, it's offense
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is never the problem. It almost always seems and it
always points back to a defense to me that just
lacks instincts, that that lacks playmakers. And right now it's
obviously dragging a season down to the point where they
face elimination in week fifteen.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
Going forward, for this team, you mentioned facing elimination, and
I know that the door is still slightly open. Do
you change how you handle the final games on the
schedule if you are officially eliminated from playoff contention? Or
do you play every game on the schedule the same
way going out?
Speaker 4 (20:45):
Is this you hinting that possibly.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
Not playing Joe Burrow that would be it?
Speaker 4 (20:49):
Yes, No, I've come around to understanding what Joe is about.
And you know, we can talk here about protecting a
quarterback from himself and putting himself in harm's way, and
the so many questions this organization has in the offseason.
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So the one question they don't need to add that
mountain is their quarterback health. But if Joe is built
and wired one way set to play football, he is
said now multiple times, it's what I love to do,
it's what I get paid to do, and he wants
to put on a show. And people will push back
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that athletes are entertainers. And yeah, I get that, But
if he's paid to put on a show and he
wants to put on a show, let the man cook.
Let him do what he wants to do. Now, if
you get to week eighteen and he's healthy and it
means absolutely nothing, it's the final game of the season,
certainly you might bring him out a little bit earlier,
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just just to protect him. But when you still have
four games left and you know how NFL coaches and
NFL players are why to win. This is the business
they're in. They're in the business of winning games, even
if it doesn't mean anything to playoff contention. Just look
back to the game against Miami when they almost lost
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Joe Burrow. That's just what NFL coaches and players do.
They're wired to try to win. And if Joe wants
to play, I think he's going to and I'm on
board with it now. I wasn't a few weeks ago,
but the way he's played, the way he's talked about
it has changed my opinion and I'm looking forward to
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watching what he does here the next few weeks.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
I always look forward to what you have coming up
over the next couple of weeks. I'm more interested in
what you have coming up this week? Tell us more
about anything Fox nineteen's got going on.
Speaker 4 (22:44):
Still waiting for this Sincy three to sixty night at Bengals. Now,
still waiting for Austin and Tony to show up to
our show live tomorrow night, Wednesday Night, Newport on the
Levee at six o'clock. Miles Murphy will be one of
our guests. We are working on a second guest. Keep
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locked to my socials for that announcement tomorrow. As we
go inside the bank was a locker room and beg
players with a four to nine record to make public
appearances in front of their fans. It's an Olympic event.
You know how funny this is. I don't want to
give away too much and peel the curtain back, but
you should see guys like Evan McPherson gets the biggest
(23:27):
kick out of watching the Fox nineteen crew go around
the locker room trying to find guests for this show.
Speaker 5 (23:34):
I would imagine you got a no from Trey Henderson.
Speaker 4 (23:39):
Trey Henderson's agent actually send us an email a few
months ago saying that Trey would like to be on
the show. I said, are you sure about that? Are
you really sure about that? But we tried to get
We tried to get Sean Clifford recently, and Sean couldn't
make it for whatever reason. And Evan's like, man, that's tough,
and Jarry's Rapple says to He's like, we can't even
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get the third stream quarterback, and Evan goes, no, no, no,
he's the fourth drift.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
Well, keep trying, keep trying, Danaman, We appreciate you. Have
a great rest of your week. Thank you. Joe Daniman
from Fox nineteen. This is since he three sixty your
talkbacks next, Oh goodness. ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports station.
Do you owe ten thousand dollars or more to the irs?
Speaker 7 (24:27):
Like Joe talkbacks, Press the microphone and record your message
or Austin in tone.
Speaker 5 (24:34):
Please keep it clean and don't be mean.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
Yeah, don't be mean.
Speaker 8 (24:38):
A a sprinkle sprinkled, drip drips.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
It's that time for talkbacks.
Speaker 7 (24:43):
It's our favorite tarter Sincy three sixty, So Austin, buddy,
play those talkbacks on your screen. Please try not to sabotages.
Speaker 2 (24:54):
Dude, due no sabotaging for today's talkbacks.
Speaker 5 (24:58):
Something that's that's interesting out the Philip Rivers thing. JJ Watt,
who I believe has the Colts game. Oh, he said, Uh,
fun fact learned in production meetings. Philip Rivers ran the
same offense as the Colts for his son Gunner's high
school team this year. Oh he said. He and Shane
Stiken spoke weakly about it, discussing plays and even film,
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So clearly there's already some familiarity there. So Phil Rivers
three under the yard, three tugs. Yeah you're saying no, Now,
I wouldn't put it past him.
Speaker 9 (25:32):
Okay, So I'm assuming you guys have heard of the
hipocraticos for those who have not, it's the oath all
doctors take where they swear to do no harm for
the patient. I'm also assuming the professional that assessed higgins
neurological status during the game was a medical doctor. Now
hown hell did that doctor clear him during the game
when he's clearly rattled and he had just gotten out
of concussion protocol and then after the game he fails
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concussion protocol and he's back in it is?
Speaker 2 (25:58):
It is mind bobbing was putting their license on the line.
Something stinks, guys.
Speaker 5 (26:03):
It is a surreal situation. It is completely understand Hey.
Speaker 10 (26:07):
Fellas, I would like to say a little piece on
Trey Hendrickson here. He got paid, he jaked the season
and then he ft the Bengals in the A wow.
Other NFL teams see this, and he's played his last
game in the league.
Speaker 7 (26:23):
This is an excuse.
Speaker 4 (26:24):
He will get out of here.
Speaker 11 (26:25):
You he's a guard, Hey fellas, it's Vin coming out
of retirement. Had to weigh in on yesterday's talkbacks. Listen, Tony,
I get it, man, it's not Joe Burrow's fault. But
we've seen this before. Last year against the Chiefs. Man,
if we had the ball in the lead and Joe
Burrow fumbles. Last year against the Baltimore Ravens, we have
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the ball in the lead and Joe Burrow throws an interception,
what are we doing?
Speaker 2 (26:49):
Man?
Speaker 12 (26:50):
I play with kids.
Speaker 13 (26:54):
Bick one the better defender, the eleven man Bengals or
the one piece of ammunition in the shirt pocket of
Deputy Barney five protecting Mayberry.
Speaker 14 (27:10):
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and I was just calling to let you know that
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Speaker 2 (27:31):
We'll get you taken care of. Okay, thank you, savior.
Fans are adorable with your eight.
Speaker 4 (27:39):
Those would do you?
Speaker 2 (27:40):
Since? Well, here's the number.
Speaker 8 (27:42):
It's been two hundred and sixty one days since your
old lady left you for another man?
Speaker 2 (27:48):
Oh oh, mugget gosh sick?
Speaker 5 (27:51):
Could you finish that one?
Speaker 1 (27:53):
Well?
Speaker 7 (27:53):
Isn't this a fun Tuesday in Cincinnati sports?
Speaker 2 (27:57):
Glad we have you guys.
Speaker 15 (27:59):
Thanks, Happy Tuesday. The sad thing for me about Burton
is if they'd have spent five minutes talking to Kirby
Smarter Nick Saban, they never would have drafted the guy.
They let whosh overrun that whole decision making process. And
Zach pounding on the table after that third round pick
is gonna haun.
Speaker 5 (28:20):
Us for years. I'll never forget that video of Ze
who's so fired up.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
They were ready, man, they were.
Speaker 8 (28:27):
Marcus from the groove.
Speaker 16 (28:29):
I just don't know why in this city, this great
city where we have Skyline Penn Station Sancy shirts with
their great great t shirts and ideas, the best sports
talk show radio is why can't we have anything nice
(28:50):
when it comes to our sports.
Speaker 7 (28:52):
I just don't get it.
Speaker 5 (28:53):
We did get the Kelly Cup back in two thousand
and eight, Breach.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
Quick doubled dip.
Speaker 15 (28:59):
If Schwarber We're from Montana, nobody in the fan base
would have gotten so wound up on this. The fact
that he was from Middletown has no bearing on whether
the Reds are going to open their wallets or not.
Speaker 5 (29:10):
I think it did, though. I think that was part
of it. Yeah, which which is maybe part of the problem,
Like if it took a guy from here to even
consider it, then that's an issue. But I do think
it played a role.
Speaker 12 (29:24):
I know everybody's kind of mad that the Reds missed
down on Kyle Schwarber, but I think this is a
big opportunity for Nick Crawl. I'm not going to underestimate
his ability to find the next injury riddled utility player
that we're going to hope as a bounce back season.
Speaker 2 (29:40):
Okay, good point. Who do they go with that?
Speaker 17 (29:42):
Quick question? Just because I'm curious. So if Philip Rivers
was to work out and they hired him and he
started on Sunday against Seattle or whatever, would he then
be disqualified from the Hall of Fame ballot because isn't
there supposed to be like a five year waiting period
in between playing and nomination or something.
Speaker 2 (29:59):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (29:59):
Thought I think he has to take a snap from
what I read, if he takes a snap with the Colts,
it resets his clock, so you would have to wait
another five years. Okay if he were to get into
there to even be on the ballot.
Speaker 7 (30:14):
Hello, this is former President Ronald Reagan and well following
this year's Bengals team reminds me of that time when
I had to walk behind the presidential limo in a
long parade. It's left me exhausted.
Speaker 16 (30:32):
Up.
Speaker 6 (30:32):
Guys been good holding Kentucky. Always talked about schwarbur Man.
It's got me missing baseball, just thinking how close we
was to winning it this year. I mean, we had
the Dodgers on the ropes. He had that lead early week,
had just held on that second game, no chance we'd
have lost that third game with abad pitching man, we
was right there. I'm looking forward to the start of
the new season. How many days the pitchers and catches I.
Speaker 18 (30:51):
Don't know, dare if I don't know what's more pathetic
as if Bob chiefs and he refusing to pay anyone
the fact he has the media bodies running around town
tell us all that they had a chance, they never
had a chance, and now they don't have a chance
the next season. Imagine what one bat would have done
to this line up, to this fandom. You would have
increased attendance having the hometown guy here refuse to do it.
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And now we're gonna try and back our way into
the playoffs again with eighty wins, just to be knocked
out in the first round.
Speaker 2 (31:18):
Nothing never changes in this town.
Speaker 5 (31:20):
Man, Tough, I wish I could say he was wrong.
Speaker 4 (31:23):
Tough Tony dek deck George in the valley, you could
see you. I'm a huge coward. I haven't left any
song backs in a couple of weeks since my beloved
Blue lost Ohio State. Oh, let's fishing it. I'm gonna
go smoke a couple of years.
Speaker 5 (31:42):
Thanks, George.
Speaker 3 (31:42):
Getting the last few days being a Cincinnati sports fan
really blows.
Speaker 2 (31:48):
That's all I.
Speaker 5 (31:48):
Got, Tough, I get it, man, Hey, it's will in Mainville.
It will.
Speaker 19 (31:54):
And the reason the Bengal was lost Sunday happened with
eight minutes left, when the Bengal scored a touchdown and
Dave back them. Uhh I heard him say, damn and
then he said, that's the dagger for the Bengals to
put in.
Speaker 2 (32:11):
Oh who said that? Who did?
Speaker 20 (32:15):
Hey guys, Hey, yea Austin. I think yesterday hit the
nail on the head. They just need to have the
twelve best teams in this whole playoff thing. And uh,
I don't think UC's got a chance against Navy unless
they pulled the seven diamond defense out of my bault,
because uh, I think Navy's is gonna run all over
that three stack they It just ain't gonna work too well.
Speaker 4 (32:36):
I don't think that's all I got, guys.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
With talk to you later.
Speaker 5 (32:39):
We'll like a month is enough time to come up
with the defense to prepare for what the midshipmen have
to do.
Speaker 2 (32:46):
Oh yeah, I would imagine they're gonna think they're going
to dial into that, you know, dial in Tyson vite checkers.
Speaker 15 (32:53):
Somebody brought this up to me and I've never really
thought about it, But.
Speaker 4 (32:58):
Has there ever been a quarterback.
Speaker 2 (33:00):
Those top five in the league at the time he
was playing and missed the playoffs three years in a row,
because that's what's about to happen with Burrow and the Bengals.
I understand he was hurt earlier this year, but let's.
Speaker 9 (33:10):
Be honest, they wouldn't have made it anyways, because Flacco
played about as good as you can play.
Speaker 8 (33:15):
I mean, you couldn't have.
Speaker 2 (33:15):
Played much better.
Speaker 5 (33:16):
Not necessarily true.
Speaker 2 (33:18):
That is a huge indictment on this franchise.
Speaker 5 (33:22):
Flaco played pretty terrible in the last two games that
he played. Yeah, the first one that comes to mind
for me would have been Matthew Stafford all those years
in Detroit. Yeah, but I don't know, and I tried
to think of doing.
Speaker 17 (33:37):
High energy how we.
Speaker 21 (33:41):
Field Williams, Darnell Burton, Deontay von Oh and the great
Lazelle Durden.
Speaker 5 (33:49):
And now let's add in Bobby Miller.
Speaker 22 (33:53):
Wait, what, don't feel bad, Tony? I took the bait
too rep in the city out here in Sonny, hot Zona.
Speaker 2 (34:01):
What up, Tony?
Speaker 6 (34:01):
What up?
Speaker 2 (34:02):
Buddy? Yup? Yup?
Speaker 22 (34:03):
Jeff Carr had me too, man. I was sitting there
looking like, Yo, this is gonna happen.
Speaker 2 (34:07):
But it is what it is.
Speaker 22 (34:08):
When you're a diehard fans, you're gonna live by the sword,
You're gonna die by the swore.
Speaker 2 (34:12):
Yo, James Rapene got me wondering.
Speaker 22 (34:14):
About Joe Burrow also having Palmer flashbacks.
Speaker 5 (34:17):
Last talk back y'all.
Speaker 22 (34:18):
For a little bit, because me and a wife is
heading to Florida, Florida.
Speaker 5 (34:24):
On the cruise. My jeez, I seen you lady.
Speaker 2 (34:29):
You can't hide that money.
Speaker 13 (34:30):
Ron.
Speaker 5 (34:30):
He said he wants to feel a little bit of
heat and humidity instead.
Speaker 2 (34:33):
Of being a Florida.
Speaker 5 (34:35):
Is James Rapine putting Burrow in the palmer boat? Is
he doing that? Because if he is, he'll never be
on this program ever again.
Speaker 2 (34:43):
Well, James has been itching to be because he keeps
tagging all this stuff.
Speaker 23 (34:48):
Hey, I think you all need to check on your boy,
Jeff Carr.
Speaker 8 (34:50):
He's over there on.
Speaker 23 (34:51):
TikTok making posts and it don't look good man. That
boy won a number twelve. He is down in the dumps.
Speaker 4 (34:56):
Now.
Speaker 23 (34:56):
Look, we might have lost out on Adam done two
point zero for Crawl to come out and say our
financial goal is to break even each year. You had
your highest attendance rating since twenty fifteen last season. Don't
tell me you can't go out there and spend more money.
Speaker 2 (35:09):
If I got to.
Speaker 23 (35:09):
Watch the Pittsburgh Pirates go out here and go all
in and build around Paul Schemes.
Speaker 2 (35:13):
What in the world are we doing? How are we looking?
Not good? They told us last night we're going to
need him this week.
Speaker 4 (35:38):
From Alabama, a big four. That catch number four.
Speaker 8 (35:53):
I told myself I was not going to get my
hopes up, don't believe the story, But then I did.
And it's not even like they went down swinging and missing.
Speaker 2 (36:03):
Yeah, no, no, no no.
Speaker 8 (36:04):
They were up at the bottom of the ninth bases
loaded and all they needed was a base hit, and
they didn't swing. They went down looking un serious organization
on serious ownership. Sell the team, Bob.
Speaker 21 (36:22):
Get hey, guys, Jeff and you Richmond. Happy Tuesday. Three
quick points for you. Trey Hendrickson. I would never allow
him to put on a Bengals uniform again. Nick Krawl
did what Nick Krawl does, which is absolutely nothing. I
would not look for them to make a move, and
they'll lose ninety games this year. Again, what a fun
(36:43):
run it was for one year, Tony. Finally, John Cunningham,
why is there not more heat on him for what
he's doing?
Speaker 2 (36:52):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (36:55):
Joe in Baltimore.
Speaker 17 (36:58):
I might be crazy, but I got a funny feeling
that Angles are going to beat the Ravens on Sunday,
the Dolphins are going to beat the Steelers Monday night,
and we're.
Speaker 4 (37:07):
All going to be listening to you guys.
Speaker 22 (37:09):
On Monday, Yeah, listening about how we're only two games
back with three to go.
Speaker 4 (37:14):
Yep.
Speaker 13 (37:15):
Knowing the Ravens play New England and Pittsburgh plays the Lions,
there's a real.
Speaker 2 (37:20):
Shot Pittsburgh Miday. Bengals need to win four in a row, which,
by the way, they've won four out of thirteen games
this year, but they do need to win four in
a row. Baltimore needs to go two and two, and
the Pittsburgh Steelers need to finish the season one and three.
There's your path there it is. We're out of time.
We'll finish up Hour two next Football in the Natty.
Football in the Natty. We'll open up the phone lines
(37:41):
in hour number three. We still got a lot to
get to on ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station thanks
to sin t shirts.
Speaker 4 (37:47):
From the Tombar.
Speaker 1 (37:48):
This is football in the Natti. Blutch you and hardby
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Speaker 2 (38:01):
Really quickly, our number three is next. This is Sincy
three sixty. Thanks to our friends at Cincy Shirts. We
will get to your phone calls to kick off the
third and final hour of the show. We'll check in
with mo later in the afternoon. I did mention before
we went to break, based on a talkback, what that
playoff path, although small, would be for the Cincinnati Bengals,
(38:21):
It's really quite simple. In the AFC North, the Bengals
would have to do something that they've obviously taken thirteen
games to do, which is acquire four more wins on
the season, those being against the Ravens, Dolphins, Cardinals, and Browns.
If the Bengals could do that, they would then need
the Baltimore Ravens to lose two of their final four,
(38:42):
and if the Bengals went out, that means the Ravens
would have to lose one of their final three. Ravens
play after the Bengals, the Patriots, the Packers, and the Steelers.
I don't think it's out of the question Austin to say, Okay,
the Ravens could lose one of those three. The other
thing that the Bengals would need to happen would be
the Pittsburgh Steelers need to go one in three down
the stretch. Pittsburgh's final remaining schedule against the Miami Dolphins
(39:08):
in Pittsburgh Monday Night Football this coming Monday. They are
on the road at Detroit the following week. They then
go to Cleveland, which is always a war, and then
they finish the season at home against the Baltimore Ravens.
Which of those three is the least likely to happen
Bengals win four in a row. No, Pittsburgh. I would
(39:33):
think Pittsburgh. They played semi decent. Yeah on Sunday. Now,
I don't believe in them. They've been up and down.
But if they lose against the Dolphins, then it gets interesting.
Speaker 5 (39:43):
Yeah, it really does. And you know, obviously the Dolphins
winning doesn't really matter, and.
Speaker 2 (39:49):
The Bengals lose, then we won't have any more of
these conversations this year. No, they would be mathematically elimiting.
There's nothing I want more than to go through that scenario.
That are our talkbacker just left yep, that Monday conversation.
We're all Dolphins fans.
Speaker 5 (40:06):
By the way, the Bengals are doing something that they
never ever do on Sunday when they play the Baltimore
Ravens at pay Corpse Stadium. It will be the date
of the game is December fourteenth. The Bengals will be
wearing their orange helmets, white jerseys, white socks, and them
(40:29):
orange britches. So the Bengals are going orange, white, orange
white at home.
Speaker 4 (40:36):
Now.
Speaker 5 (40:37):
They've worn white at home before often in the first
two or three weeks of the season. They have never
worn white to my knowledge, at home in the month
of December, and they certainly have never worn the white
on orange at home at any point.
Speaker 2 (40:54):
There's your Uni Coombo.
Speaker 5 (40:55):
So the Bengals obviously gonna seems like force the Ravens
into wearing purple on Baltimore on Sunday, and you know
it's going to be tough for them because the heat.
Speaker 2 (41:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (41:06):
I don't know if you saw the forecast. We were
talking about this before the game. Because I don't have
anything to do on Sunday week, maybe I'll go to
the game. I looked up the forecast. Eighteen degrees.
Speaker 2 (41:16):
There we go.
Speaker 5 (41:17):
Good seats still available?
Speaker 2 (41:19):
Yeah, boy, our number three more Bengals some college hoops.
Speaker 5 (41:24):
I hate it.
Speaker 2 (41:24):
By the way, I don't think we should be wearing
white on orange at home. Your phone calls in mowegger
All still ahead? Yeah? Next on ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati
Sports Station.
Speaker 1 (41:34):
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