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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Welcome to Get Connected with Nina del Rio, a weekly
conversation about fitness, health and happenings in our community on
one oh six point seven light FM.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Thank you for listening to Get Connected. Happy Thanksgiving everyone,
Thank you for joining me and my guest Bentley Gordon,
representing the Fresh Air Fund. The Fresh Air Fund is
a New York City institution. A one hundred and fifty
year old nonprofit. You likely know for summer adventures for
urban kids with their signature volunteer host family programs, and
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sleep away camps. Among their year round programs is the
College Connections Program for high schoolers, which hosts workshops to
help students with the college application process. Our guest is
Bentley Gordon. He is director of the College Connections Program.
Bentley Gordon. Thank you for joining me on Get Connected.
Speaker 4 (00:51):
Yes, thank you for having me.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
You can find out more about the organization at fresh
air dot org. So, the College Connections Program, we're going
to go into detail, but maybe you could start by
giving us the broad strokes.
Speaker 4 (01:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
So, the College Connections Program is a fresh is the
fresheer of funds college access and success program that supports
young people from the moment they begin that conversation about
college all the way through that in ay degree. So
we work with students during their high school years on
everything from building a strong college list, to running college essays,
even navigating financial aid, and once.
Speaker 4 (01:26):
They get to college, we stay connected.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
The Fresheer of Fund wants to make sure our students
have the resources, mentorship, and community they need to stay
on track and graduate.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
So if you could give us a little more detail,
what kind of support do you offer parents and students
who are in the application process.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
Yes, so for students, we provide one on one advising
weekly workshops on skill building and the application process. We
also offer essays support, financial aid guidance, and college readiness
sessions that are similar to college's summer Bridge program. And
for parents, we make sure they understand the process every
step of the way, the timelines, the costs. We offer
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several workshops on completing financial aid forms. You know a
lot of families are navigating this for the first time,
so our role is to really just break things down
and reduce the stress and make sure the process feels
as manageable as possible for everyone involved.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
So the college process, as you mentioned, financial aid can
be kind of sticky for people. What are the most
common fears right now about the early decision application process?
What do you hear from parents and kids?
Speaker 3 (02:29):
The biggest fear that I've been hearing lately is, you know,
the fear of wanting to be perfect. You know, oftentimes
students think that everyone who is applying for early decision
has the perfect grades or the perfect resumes. But what
I tell families is early decisions should be used only
when the school is true research and confirm their students'
first choice, and also when they have done their research
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on their financial implications. Applying early decision is a great
option for some students, but it's definitely not the right
fit for everyone.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
Yeah, what would be Why would you not want to
go in to early decision?
Speaker 3 (03:01):
You know, sometimes we aren't sure of which majors we
want to have, so that may affect the school choices
that we have on our list. And we really only
recommend applying early decision for one school versus many, so
we don't want to get locked into a school that
may not be one hundred percent the right fit for
that student.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
Who is giving your team guidance on what's currently most
important for incoming freshmen? To present potential schools. Do you
have partner college and universities you work with you speak with?
Speaker 4 (03:30):
Yes, we do partner with schools.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
We offer something on a weekly basis call a college Spotlight,
where we have schools, we have their our missions reps
come out to our location and give students insight into
what they are looking for in the college applications. That way,
students are getting the direct feedback from the people who
are going to be reviewing their applications.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
Do you think it has become because people are so
fearful of it now actually harder or easier for kids
to get into college?
Speaker 3 (03:56):
I think college has become more accessible and the process
has become more complicated, but not necessarily harder. There are
more application platforms, there are more deadlines to pay attention to,
and there are more financial aid forms that students have
to submit that can create stress. But there are also
more pathways to college now than ever before. There are
more support programs, and there are more schools that are
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actively seeking first generation students. So if the right guidance
and information, students can absolutely navigate this process successfully. So
to all these students out there, remember that you don't
have to do it alone. You have counselors, you have teachers,
and you have family. I can help you.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
Brentley Gordon is the director of the College Connections Program
at the fresh Air Fund, one of their year round programs.
With over five years experience in higher education and youth development,
Brentley Gordon specializes in helping young people navigate the college
application process. That is what we were talking about today. You
can again find out more about the organization at fresh
Air dot org. You're listening to get connected on one
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of six points seven light FM. Amina del Rio, you're also,
as you mentioned, a first generation college student advocate. You're
a proud Brooklyn native. What is it about just a
personal question if you don't mind, What is it about
this role that made you decide to be a student advocate?
Can you talk a little bit about why you made
this your professional focus?
Speaker 3 (05:15):
Of course, of course, so you know, at first I
wanted to go into the tech world until I got
to school and I noticed that there was a bunch
of students who had this who comes similar background as myself,
but they necessarily have the support that I had. I
was support of a college prep program when growing up,
so seeing this, I wanted to find out how can
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I increase college access and awareness to the young people
growing up that way, they don't make the same mistakes
that other people are making. How can we get them
ahead of the curve and help them have a successful
college experience.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
You've addressed a couple of things, but I wonder if
you could talk more about some of the misconceptions about
the process that you want applicants to know.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
One big mixedconception is that, you know, when applying early
decision some students may feel like their senior year grades
don't matter anymore. But that's not true at all. You know, like,
once students are accepted, they have to submit their final transcripts,
and schools they do review those transcripts and they can
easily adjust any scholarships or even rescind the offer if
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their grades are to drop significantly. But also, I want
to go back to that fear of having to be perfect.
You know a lot of young people they think that
they need all straight a's in every class to be competitive,
but that's not always the case.
Speaker 4 (06:29):
Colleges are valuing.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
More rigor and growth, so sometimes a mix of a's
and b's in a truly challenging course can show more
about the student's work ethic than their willingness and their
willingness to push through than getting all a's in classes
that don't stretch them.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
How would a school look at as student who maybe
had some trouble in their earlier years of high school
and then really sort of focuses and bears down at
the end. How would they look at that arc?
Speaker 4 (06:56):
Yeah, so schools really look at it holistically.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
They look at the grades that are students from when
they first enter high school up until when they're finished
in high school. They look at the extracurriculous that are
student if they evolved in to show how is a
student balancing their academics and their extracurriculous They also want
to see it talked about in the college essay kind
of like speak on what happened during that time period
that caused those grades to be low and what did
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you do to increase those grades and show that effort
over time.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
So the Fresh Air Fund, let's get back to the
program that you helm. The Fresh Air Fund hosts workshops
and weekly mentoring sessions. Tell us about those Yeah.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
So we host weekly sessions on Wednesdays every week The
sessions are divided up by their class year, so we
start in tenth grade and go up to twelfth grade.
Speaker 4 (07:40):
Our tenth grade focus.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
Is more about building those skills that are needed to
succeed in college. The eleventh grade focus is being induced
to the college process while starting early on some of
those things like building a college essay, building those their resume,
and gaining those references. While in twelfth grade we are
solely in the process. Now, the applications are getting submitted,
the financial lead's getting a minute, we're doing research on
outside scholarships. How can we best get you to school
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and leave school with as less loans as possible.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
Who is in charge of these sessions? Are they volunteers?
Are they people who are again in direct contact with schools.
Speaker 3 (08:15):
Yeah, So we have a team of volunteer mentors and
we have about twelve different groups between twelfth and tenth grade,
and inside each group, we have about three mentors in
each and they really go over the curriculum that my
team creates with a little personal experience from their college
application days.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
Then let's talk about volunteering and opportunities for that. What
kind of people would be best at this?
Speaker 3 (08:38):
Definitely Folks who have went to college or even trade
schools who know some information about that process. Folks who
have started in their careers and we don't really look
at age. It could be anybody from the young crowd
to the older crowd, anybody who has that experience and
can share some insight to our young people.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
How can students apply for the program and who is eligible?
Speaker 3 (09:00):
College Connections program is designed specifically for young people who
have been a part of the Fresh Air Fund summer programs.
So once students have spent a summer with us, they
become eligible to apply for the College Connections Program.
Speaker 4 (09:11):
What's they become of age?
Speaker 3 (09:12):
We will invite them to join our program and then
our team will guide them through the process of some
of the application for this program.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
What kind of feedback have you gotten from students and
schools about their experience in this process. Is that you
received feedback you can actually put into practice?
Speaker 4 (09:28):
Yes, we have, we have. So what we have?
Speaker 3 (09:30):
We have a new program, Well it's not so new.
It came out a couple of years ago. It's called
the College Bitch program, kind of helping students transition from
the high school environment and academics into the college environment academics,
and we use the feedback that we get from current
students to help shape that program and what can we
teach students now that way, it's not a roadblock or
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hindorance when they get to college.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
So what are the deadlines We're having this conversation over Thanksgiving?
What are the deadlines that parents and kids are looking
at now?
Speaker 3 (10:00):
Definitely the round two of early decision. The early decision
is in two parts, and that second deadline is coming
up early in January along with the regular decision in January.
So definitely get our applications in. I would say by
mid January. That's the point that I have to pay
attention to.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
How long in advance of the deadline should you really
start working on the process in earnest?
Speaker 4 (10:23):
Well, you know, no time is ever too early.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
So what we do in this program the fresh and
fundage students starting on their application process during their junior year.
So I would suggest their junior year is when they
can start developing their college essays, acting for those recommendations
and sililifying that list. That way, by time August comes around,
we are ready to submit applications.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
And as far as recommendations go, since you mentioned it,
who's recommendations might carry more weight in the admissions process.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
Definitely, people in the academic sentences that know the student
more personally, knows about their journey from when it's not
in the high schoo up until now, the growth that
they could talk about, So I would say they just
select somebody from the academic institutions, a teacher who knows them.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
Since you've been doing this several years now, I wonder
if you have examples of students you've been able to
help who you've been particularly proud to see, really really
pleased with their growth.
Speaker 4 (11:19):
Yes, there is. I have this one student. His name
is Eric.
Speaker 3 (11:21):
He started in our summer program when I was a
camp counselor, so I kind of have the opportunity to
see him grow up from the age nine up until nineteen.
From now watching him grow in our camp space, then
entering this program and seeing how this program really helped
him develop into a young professional, and now going off
to college against opportunities and these internships that he's going
to offer, invited to study abroad. His growth really makes
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me smile and he's like the reason why I do
the work that I do Now, is.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
There anything you'd like people or students in particular, I
guess to take away from this conversation and about the
application process and what's available to them at fresh Air fund.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
So I would like students to know that they don't
have to do this alone. There's a team with people
behind you. Disappointing you rather you know what or not.
All it takes is a question. Ask the questions you need,
seek the goddess you need, and what you need you
will have.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
Bently Gordon is director of the College Connections Program. You
can find out more at fresh air dot org. Thank
you for joining us and happy holidays.
Speaker 4 (12:18):
Thank you, Happy holidays. Have your work.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
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