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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Welcome to Katie r. H. Garden Line with Skimp Richard
A trim.

Speaker 2 (00:13):
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Speaker 3 (00:28):
Troubles.

Speaker 4 (00:29):
We're not a sign.

Speaker 5 (00:35):
Un Good morning, folks, Welcome to garden Line. I trust
you our bright eyed and bushy tailed. Maybe a cup
of coffee in your hand to help get both eyes
open at this hour. I'm your host, Skip Rictor. We're
here to have a lot of fun, I hope, so
I hope you enjoy this. We're gonna I do my

(00:57):
happy place. One of my happy places is talking to gardeners,
and I just really enjoy that. And I think gardening
ought to be fun. I think a garden show to
be fun. So let's have some fun today. You can
give me a call at seven one three two one
two fifty eight seventy four. You got a question you'd
like to talk about. I've got a bunch of things
I need to talk about, so i'll just get started

(01:19):
with that. You let me know when you got something
you want to visit about about that. I think that'll work.
I want to remind you guys that weren't able to
listen yesterday, or tell you that I have put two
new publications on the website, and by the way, the website,
let me let me back up one more. Always listen
to garden Line with a piece of paper and a
pencil or pen in hand, so you can jot stuff down.

(01:41):
I may give you a phone number or maybe give
you a product name or something that you know you
want to remember. Just jot it down, just have it nearby,
not not difficult to do. And the first thing I
want you to jot down is gardening with Skip dot com.
Gardening with Skip dot com. That's my website. That's where
I put everything up for Gardenline information. These questions that

(02:04):
I can't I can't answer adequately over the air, either
they're too complicated, too involved, or maybe just trying to
describe it in a way that makes sense, or maybe
it's got a bunch of product names in it and
you can't keep track all those when I'm just saying
them on the air. So I put them on the website.
And the two newest ones, by the way, my lawn
care schedule, which is how to water, mow, fertilize your lawn,

(02:29):
and also micronutrient applications and compost aerration, compost, top dressing,
an erration. They're all on that schedule. It's there. Then
the other one is everything that goes wrong in the
lawn and what to do about it, and that would
be the lawn pest, disease and weed management schedule. Insects, diseases,
weeds that you're preventing, weeds that you're killing that already exist.

(02:52):
What are your product options, what's organic, what's synthetic. It's
all on there. But here we finally get to the
two I started to talk about, and that is Take
All root Rot publications. I got two. One of them
is an in depth look at take All It's two pages.
The other one and they have pictures, by the way.

(03:12):
The other one is quick tips for managing take All
root Rot. You just cut to the chase. Here, here's
what it is, just what it looks like, and then
here's the three or four or five things you can
do to help fight it. And they're all on there online.
All you got to do is go to gardening with
skip dot com check those out. I am seeing so
much Take All root Rot. I don't know I'm getting.

(03:34):
You know, people that are emailing me pictures and that
we talk about on the air and just questions. I'm
being ask and just driving around town looking at yards
and stuff. It's a lot it's going on right now,
so it's a timely thing to put those up. I'm
gonna start off this morning. We're gonna book good night.
Somebody left the gate open here on the phones. We're

(03:56):
going to go out to Houston and talk to Thomas.
First thing this morning.

Speaker 6 (04:00):
Hey, Thomas, Good morning, sir, Good morning.

Speaker 5 (04:06):
Yes, sir. How can we help today?

Speaker 6 (04:09):
Well, I have about twelve or fifteen boxwoods that I
have planted around a large oak tree, and I have
two that have died. I replaced them, and those two died.
The interesting thing is that they're not together. There's a

(04:30):
boxwood in between those two that is still fine. So
I cannot figure out what happened.

Speaker 5 (04:38):
Is the whole thing turning brown kind of at once
or are you losing a limb and then another limb
and then another limb over time?

Speaker 6 (04:45):
It turns brown slowly over time.

Speaker 5 (04:49):
Yes, it's not.

Speaker 6 (04:52):
Like well, one limb, yeah.

Speaker 5 (04:55):
Yeah. Boxwoods have a number of things that attack them.
There is a fungal disease and the roots that plugs
the plumbing, and the plant looks like it needs watering
and then it dies. There are nematodes that get on
the roots, and then there's some blight type diseases that
attack the branches. The bottom line is, I'm not telling
people to pull up their box woods, but I don't

(05:15):
know if i'd replant them because they do have some issues.
I can't tell you exactly what killed yours without you know,
seeing it and maybe photos of the progression, but it's
gonna be one of those things. And so you know,
if if you got if you already invested in the
long line of box woods, then you can plug some
in in between. But just know that that is a

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that's the species that we're dealing with right now. And
breaders are trying to come up with some varieties that
are resistant all that stuff, but it's the state of
the situation right now that that is what we're dealing
with on box woods.

Speaker 6 (05:51):
Okay, So would it help if I since youre a
couple of photos.

Speaker 5 (05:56):
Yeah, if you can send me some photos of a
distant the whole group of boxwoods, and then some up close,
like if there's a dead branch, and follow that branch
down to where it joins branches that are living that
have green leaves on them, and see right there. Do
you see a crack or a split in the bark?
Do you see sunken areas in the bark? And what

(06:17):
I'd also like you to do is when you follow
it down and you take a knife and scrape back
the bark, you're going to see brown underneath. And keep
working your way back toward where that branch attaches and
see where it goes to living tissues and see where
that that is, where that change is. Is it somewhere
along the branch? Is it back at the attachment point?

(06:37):
And you can send me some photos. What I'm gonna
do is put you on hold and my producer will
pick up right now and give you an email to
send to send that to. Okay, all right, great, yes sir,
all right, good luck at that. Sorry you're having, you know,
having to deal with that, but a lot of people

(06:59):
are dealing with that problem with boxwoods too. All right, sir,
thank you very much. Put John hold. Uh. You know,
there's a lot of different products that we might use
for different things. And you'll hear me say, well you
need to get this, or you need to get that,
or here's some good fertilizers. Where you to choose from

(07:19):
and things. Aceh Hardware Store has got you covered on
this stuff. They do a very good job of keeping
these things we talk about on garden Line in stock.
You can go to ACE Hardware Texas dot com. Ace
Hardware Texas dot com. That's my group of ACE Hardware
stores here on garden Line goes all the way from Orange,
Texas in the east, all the way down to Rockport

(07:40):
area in the southwest, and it's just our whole region.
You're gonna find stores in places like All Star, acep in,
Magnolia k and m ACE in Kingwood on Kingwood Drive,
kil Gore's Clarlic lumber Down on East Maine on Southeast
and Katie Hardware on Pinoak in Old Town, Katie Port,
Lavaca ACE on Calhoun Ply just some examples of the

(08:02):
mini ACE Hardware stores. Find yours at ACE Hardware Texas
dot com. I need to take a quick break here.
I'll be right back with Jeff and Blake as the
first two up when we come back. Good to have
you with us kind of public service announcement here. If

(08:22):
you are going to do a slow release fertilizer and
you hadn't done one in a while for several months,
it's time to get one down. But this is kind
of a last call because as we get further into August,
we're getting awfully close to that fall fertilization, and so
I'll be switching you over to something that's if you
need a temporary fix, something that's immediate release, but still

(08:44):
you can put a slow release down. It is still
time to be able to do that if you haven't
done it. And Nitropos Superturf, that's the one that is
in the silver bag. You know, you walk into a store,
you look across the store and you see the silver
bag from the door you walked in. It's really easy
to pick out and it worked. Nitroposs Superturf will give
you a slow release. Therefore, it will give you a
gradual growth and greening of the grass and you won't

(09:08):
be mowing like crazy trying to keep up with an
over application of nitrogen. It does help develop good deep
roots because it's not an over application of nitrogen and
you're gonna get night fross in places like RCW Nursery
on Tomball Parkway and belt Way eight. You go out
to Langham Creek Ace Hardware on FM five twenty nine.
Plantation Hardware on FM three fifty nine. Down in Richmond

(09:31):
Rosenberg area, you'll all find you'll find night Foss products
at all those places. We're gonna head out now to
Jeff in Pasadena. Hey, Jeff, welcome to Guardline.

Speaker 7 (09:41):
Yes, sir, good morning.

Speaker 5 (09:44):
Arnie.

Speaker 7 (09:46):
Yeah, I sent you some picture, yes, or a grassy weed.

Speaker 5 (09:50):
Yes, I got them, I got them. That is something
called kilinga ky I think it's two l's I n
ga ki linga. It is kin to nut grass, but
it does not have nuts. It's different. It's just in
the it's a sedge. It's not a true grass. Kalinga
is a little bit of a challenge to control a

(10:11):
lot of the things that work, you know, pretty good
against even nuts. Edges are going to struggle a little
bit on the kilinga. But I would use a product
that contains sedge well, a product called sedge hammer. That
that product. There are some others that have that ingredient
in them, but sedge hammer is going to give you

(10:33):
your best bet. But you're gonna have to do it
more than once, and so just be ready to reapply
later and just stay on top of it. But you
can get rid of kalinga. Now that said, kalinga loves
saggy wet areas. If it wasn't staying pretty wet, kyalinga
would not be growing there. So anything you can do
to improve drainage, back off on watering all the above,

(10:57):
because kalinga needs more water than your regular grass does.

Speaker 8 (11:02):
Okay, let me just spray the whole yard or just
pray those areas directly.

Speaker 5 (11:10):
Well, I would just spot treat the I would spot
treat the culling areas. Yeah, don't spray the whole yard. Yeah,
And as you work on it, it's gonna you're gonna
work it back. But it's a it's a pretty low grass,
but it's most people don't want it in their lawns.
So all right, sir Jeff, Hey, thanks, you bet appreciate

(11:32):
that very much. Uh, Southwest Fertilizer. You know they've been
down there on the corner of Businet and Runwick for
seventy years. Now, can you believe that seventy years? How
many businesses do you know they've been around seventy years.
I'll tell you one way you stick around seventy years.
You treat your customers right. You have friendly service. You
carry great products, you know, quality stuff that they need,

(11:55):
stuff that's hard to find in other places. And you
have such a selection that the way I put it
about Southwest is if they don't have it, you don't
need it, because there is no product that will ever
come out of my mouth that they don't have there.
Because if I'm recommending something that I believe works, well,
Southwest carries everything that works and then some You can
be an organic gardener and go I'm not into chemicals,

(12:17):
Well you're not going to find a larger organic selection.
Then you'll find it Southwest Fertilizer. It just works like
that corner of Bissinett and Runwick in Southwest Houston. Seven
to one three six six six one seven four four.
Let's set up to Cypress now and talk to Blake. Hey, Blake,
Welcome to Guardline.

Speaker 7 (12:37):
How to skip Good morning?

Speaker 5 (12:39):
Good morning?

Speaker 7 (12:40):
Uh guess the set pictures.

Speaker 8 (12:42):
I've got the slow die back death on a holly
tree in.

Speaker 5 (12:48):
The Yeah, a little bit on their yes, yeah, and
my apologies on that. Greg. I was trying to get
back to you and I just was a one armed
paperhanger trying to keep up with things towards the.

Speaker 4 (13:00):
End of.

Speaker 5 (13:03):
Good pictures. So when when you see peripheral die back
like that, you know that's the last part of the
holly to get water and nutrients. So oftentimes on a
tree of any kind, not just holly, but you do
see a peripheral die back, And so my first thought
is what happened there? Looking at all the other shrubs

(13:23):
and plants, you obviously are water in them, so it's
not a lack of moisture. Could it be the start
of a root rot in the bed? Or if you
follow that dead top back to where you begin to
see the nice green, living holly branches, what do you
see that in that place where it goes from dead

(13:43):
to living? Are there cracks in the bark or there
holes in the bark? Is there any sawdust there? Does
the bark look sunken like there's a canker or a
wound that killed the tissues and they kind of have
sunken in the bottom line is you need to prune
that out, because of course it's not coming back to life.
Look at the rest of the bush. I do see
some tips with brown on them, and that's an indication

(14:05):
of a lack of flow to that leaf. That typically
would be a drought damage or a something plugging the plumbing,
or it could be a fertilizer burn. Looking at the
whole bush, it's not fertilizer burn. Looking at the whole bush,
it's not drought damage. But something is plugging the plumbing
in there. So you may have some cankers, you may
have some borers or something. Just follow them back and

(14:28):
check and then prune out the bad stuff. Keep doing
what you're doing care wise. Though the vigor is good.
You got a lot of fresh news shoots on it.
They look good. Hopefully this is not going to continue
on like it is. But that's what I see in
the photos.

Speaker 7 (14:46):
Okay, well, I appreciate it. I'll look a little closer,
you know, for bores. But like I said, you know,
I've had them five years and they've been great. But
this year is something's bugging one of them, So keep
eyes on it.

Speaker 5 (15:01):
Yeah, and that is very weird to see that. I
wouldn't I wouldn't say fertilize it work. It's obviously doing good.
Now I'm looking at a picture, but it looks like
the one that's right beside your house, where the top
is dead and the bottom is vigorous. It looks like
the area between those two is starting to lose the

(15:21):
bright green color a little bit, and that would be
a sign that it's working its way back down in there.
And somehow you ought to be able to see something.
You got a bush that's healthy with dead areas, So
why are those areas different than the healthy ones? And
that that's what you'll see. It may take a lot
of looking around in it. If you run into anything

(15:42):
you see, send me a picture of it. You know,
if you go, what is this? Is this a problem
or is this what's doing it? I'll be happy to
take a look at that. He you know, just sends
you a reply on the email to that one.

Speaker 9 (15:50):
Okay, great, I appreciate it.

Speaker 7 (15:53):
Skipping, You're right the bottom there is new sheets coming
out of the bottom. So that was kind of the
other mystery. The top looks horrible in the bottom rolling.

Speaker 5 (16:01):
Yeah, that's what's great. Thing you think that we're not.
That's what makes me think the problem isn't in the roots,
but the problem is somewhere up on the stems. Something
has happened up there. But all right, Blake, thank you
appreciate the comp Thanks for calling back and stick them
with this one. You bet take care. It is storm season, right,
hurricane season. Remember those welcome to Houston. Last summer, we didn't.

(16:24):
We had two storms that knocked out power for two
weeks each in some areas. One of them was a hurricane,
the other one wasn't didn't have to have a hurricane
to have storm damage to trees. If you haven't had
your trees looked at in the last two or three years,
you need to have somebody to look at them, because
as a tree grows, it can develop weak branches that
are likely to break in a storm. Now, no kind

(16:46):
of pruning is going to prevent a hurricane from knocking
a tree over if it wants to, right, but a
lot can be done to protect your trees and make
them much much safer so they don't fall on your
house or your neighbor's spencer, God forbid your neighbor car.
People underneath Affordable Tree Service Martin Spoon Moore, they know
what they're doing. They've been doing this a long time.

(17:08):
You know, family has been in business there for fifty
four years now. Affordable Tree Service. Let me give you
a phone number seven one three six nine nine two
six six three you need to call Martin and you
need to get on his schedule. He stays busy because
he does good work. But tell him, you know, tell
him you've heard about him on guard line, and they'll
take care of you. They will come out, they'll take

(17:30):
a look. There's no charge for bits coming out. They'll
tell you what they think you need.

Speaker 7 (17:34):
Now.

Speaker 5 (17:34):
He doesn't just do tree printing. I mean he does
all kinds of services for trees, you know, from stump
grinding to pest control to deep root feeding and so on.
If you're listening to my voice and you're about to
do construction around a tree, put in a driveway, dig
a trench, or to run electrical line, or to run

(17:56):
utilities and things anything like that. If you're going to
mess around within the branch bread of a tree, you
need to call Martin to come out and talk pre
construction care with you. Once you've done the damage, there's
much less you can do to help that tree than
before you've done the damage. Call Martin Spoon more seven
three six ninety nine two six six three important to

(18:21):
take care of those trees. You know, the most single,
most valuable plants you have in your landscape are your trees.
And if you don't have trees, you need to get
some planet. He can do that for you too. But
we got a lot of places have good, good quality
trees here for the Houston area. One thing I think
that more homes should do. Speaking of trees, is uh,
put in some blooming trees. We got trees that bloom

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at various times of the season. Of course, crape myrtles,
that's that's the main one we see around here, and
it's because they bloom for like ninety days, like three months.
Crape myrtles are great for that and then they have
their issues. But man, that's a great tree in the spring.
Got things like Chinese fringe tree, just billows of white blooms,

(19:05):
the kind of a honeylike fragrance. I love that one.
There's a lot of them that we can plan here.
Why not add something like that seasonal interest. You know,
our landscape should be changing all through the year, but
they should be beautiful all year, and so there's something
you can do even for winter time. There are things
that look good. Evergreens keep their leaves in the winter.

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I love the bark of crpe myrtles, certain varieties. Natches
is probably the most common one in Houston that does this.
It's a white blooming tall crape myrtle. But the bark
exfoliates with patches of cinnamon colored bark. And if you
pronum rite, it is a beautiful structure to the tree.

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And in the wintertime, it's pretty in the wintertime. So
there's a lot we can do through the seasons. But
look at your landscape. Go out right now. Is your
landscape a sea of green? Most are most are right
now green grass, green ground covers, green shrubs, green trees,
green green green greens are pretty color. But there are
other colors look at And so how about getting into

(20:10):
the flower beds and things and consider foliage plants, plants
that have gorgeous foliage even without blooms. They add color
to the landscape. All right, I gotta take a quick
break here. We'll be right back with your calls. Glad
to have you with us this morning. And you have
a question that we could assist with. I've got a
phone line open if you'd like to call if you've
got a question. Seven one three two one two fifty

(20:33):
eight seventy four seven one three two one two fifty
eight seventy four. I was talking about going out and
looking at your landscape and is it a sea of green?
One thing I always do when I drive around town.
First of all, I'd much rather take than unbeaten the
not so beaten path, as you know, just to always
be on the highways and stuff. Sometimes if I can,
I'll cut through neighborhoods and look at houses and just

(20:54):
look at landscapes and see see what I see. You
get ideas that way. You may run into some new plants.
It's like, what's that I need one of those? And
I enjoy doing that. I tell you another way to
get ideas, and that is to go to Pierce Scape's website,
and I'm gonna tell you that websites piercescapes dot com,
pierscapes dot com. On there you see the work they do.

(21:18):
And these guys are professionals. I mean, they are awesome
at the job that they do. And you'll see the
different things they can do and get ideas of the
kind of work. Now, Peer scapes can do things like
take that area that doesn't drain well and make it
drain so you can grow stuff there. You know how
we always say this plant needs good drainage. Most plants

(21:39):
do need good drainage, and pier scapes can provide good
drainage in an area that doesn't have it. They can
do hard scapes. They can create that patio of your
dreams out there. I mean, go look at the website
and see what they do. They work on irrigation, they
can they can do design. If you have a blank
slate you just built a new house, or if you've
got an older lane and you go look, you know what,

(22:01):
it's time for a makeover. Here call Peerscapes two eight
one three seven fifty sixty two eight one three seven
fifty sixty. They can work magic with your place. I
love that and I love going to that website peerscapes
dot com because it's it's inspirational. It gives you ideas, uh,
and that's what it's all about. Do you know that

(22:23):
our landscapes I think a lot of times our mindset is, well,
we plan a landscape and then that's it. That's what
it is. And you can do that. You see these
around town. You know, a little shrub that's supposed to
be underneath the window now is over the eaves of
the house because it's it just keeps growing but it
is okay to change them out. Just like you may
change the paint in the living room, or change the

(22:44):
curtains in the house, or do something else. It's okay
in landscapes to do that too, because plants, some of
them have life spans that are a significant aspect of
you know, what I have to do now. Others they
just we got better ones. You know. I looked at
a picture of the house I grew up in about

(23:05):
oh gosh, maybe ten or fifteen years after I grew
up and left the house, and I mean the shrubs
were all over the eaves and overgrown and stuff. They
got old, And I was looking at those shrubs thinking,
we've got dwarf versions of that one now that that
doesn't need to happen, and it's time to replace it.
So anyway, think of your landscape as your wardrobe or

(23:26):
any kind of thing like that. And here you're decorating
and design. What could you do different to make it
look a little bit better. That's something that I would recommend.
I suggest, you know, go to our botanical gardens and arboretams,
go to garden centers and drive around town. Look at
the things you see. What do you like maybe it's
just I like the way they curved that bed around

(23:47):
the corner of the house so that I really like
the look of that gets you some ideas. I think
that's a great thing to do if you were dealing
with any kind of pests, whether it is out side
things like fire ants, things like mosquitos, whether it's inside
termites god forbid in your house or indoor past you know,

(24:09):
you got the family run around screaming because cockroaches are
chasing them through the house. Called pest Bros. Pest Bros
is our go to pest control operator here on Garden Line.
They service a very wide area, I mean from Texas
City all the way up Interstate forty five of the woodlands,
from Baytown over on the east side, all the way
west to Katie and they can handle it all. They

(24:32):
know how to treat effectively and listen. If you're concerned
about kids and pets and things like that, Pestros knows
how to do it in the safest manner. They can
make sure that you have long term benefit for a
minimum of worries minimum give them a call too. Eight
one two O six forty six seventy two eight one
two O six forty six seventy or go to their

(24:55):
website the pest Bros. Bros dot com, Deepestpros dot com.
Let's head out to Lake Conroe. Now we're going to
talk to Dave. Hey, Dave, things up to Lake Conroe.

Speaker 10 (25:09):
I'm looking at this moon over there and just wonderful.
And there's a lot of people. I ain't got a
rod in the water, but hey, that that ten oak
tree in the front yard. It's only about if you
you know, it's only about big around is like I said,
you can put your My hands are a little bit big,
but put your thumb to your finger and you know

(25:31):
it's not that big.

Speaker 5 (25:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 10 (25:32):
But I did take like a bungee cord and I
moved a steel rod that you know that they had
tied with some tie.

Speaker 6 (25:40):
Straps or whatever they was that I cut off there.
It didn't look good right there where they had it tied.

Speaker 10 (25:46):
But I got that now and I just kind of
eased it back a little bit so it's it's got
a fluctuation on it. So that sounds good.

Speaker 5 (25:55):
Yeah, that does sound good.

Speaker 11 (25:56):
You know.

Speaker 5 (25:57):
There there's that device you've heard me talk about here
on Garden Line and the three sixty tree stabilizer. It's
a bar and it has an adjustment, so you can
you put in a like a metal ta post or
something and it attaches to that or any kind of post,
and then the other side has a soft strap around
it that gives a little room for the tree to move.

(26:18):
So that's another option that works real good for you.
For a tree the size of the one you have,
that probably would work. Now, when you said your thumb
and finger, you're talking about two hands put together the
fingers and thumbs. Okay, yeah, that's not.

Speaker 10 (26:31):
As big around as you know. It's only about maybe
three inches around or maybe not even that much.

Speaker 5 (26:37):
Well okay, okay, well it's small.

Speaker 10 (26:40):
Yeah, and I think it's like, oh, when I was
asked you on the prune, I mean, we got some
cut ones coming up down on the bottom and I've
kind of just been gently getting them off there. Yeah,
but how should I I mean, I shouldn't top it
out or nothing?

Speaker 4 (26:59):
Right, Probably not.

Speaker 5 (27:02):
I'd have to see a picture of it to know
if it needs any pruning. I think right now the
main thing is is getting it in a upright, more
upright position and getting it stabilized there. And it's going
to take a while, and it's got to change its
its root growth. You know, it's strengthening up the roots,
support the bracing and things there. H So this ain't
gonna happen in a season. But as far as pruning,

(27:25):
you can send me a picture of it. We can
look at it later, but probably ought to wait until
we get into the winter time to do that at
the structure.

Speaker 10 (27:34):
Okay, I heard you talking about watching your trees and stuff. Yeah,
because I know a couple of people that trees of
parts of trees or something. They're sitting out there in
the yard and sell on them. And luckily he survived,
and you know he's doing great now. But I don't
think that feels good, you.

Speaker 5 (27:54):
Know, no, it doesn't. Hey, thanks for thanks for that,
called Dave. I appreciate that. Yeah, that's why we send
people to Martin Spoomore. You know you don't to wait.
I tell you this. When we have a storm and
your tree busts apart and it's laying in the yard,
you're going to want somebody to come over and get
that fix. Now. Well, those trees are all over town
now like that, and there's a line on folks trying

(28:17):
to that's when we have a lot of the unscrupulous
storm chasers show up in town because they can pick
up a quick buck and then drive away and you're stuck.
So don't do that. Hey, Plants for all seasons on
Highway two forty nine at Luetta. Okay, Tomball Parkway. Let's
just say you're in Houston going to a Tomball Cross

(28:37):
our exit Luetta Crossover, Luetta, and it's right there on
the right hand side. This is a full service retail
garden center, family owned since nineteen seventy three. They know
what they're doing. You can take them pictures, you can
take them samples, you can go in there. But you know,
I've already told you they have great product, they have
great knowledge, They have great plants and everything. But they

(28:58):
also offer a service where you can create color containers.
Now they can build one for you. You can go
buy there and buy one that's already built, or you
can if you want to be a do it yourself
for go shop grab one of their wonderful containers and
let them help you pick out a group of plants
that'll look good together and a quality soil mix. They
got great Solomex options, and take it home and make

(29:20):
your own color container. That is instant beauty and what
a way to decorate your patio. And they can do
all that and more, of course plans for all seasons.
Two eight one three, seven six, sixteen forty six. Time
for a quick break and we'll be back with your call.
Seven one three two one two fifty eight seventy four.
Welcome back to Guardline. Good to have you with us.

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they come out and they'll do the core aerating and
then they'll spread a very high quality screened compost over
the top. And here's what happens. The core aeration opens
up holes in the ground. Core aeration means I'm popping

(30:22):
a plug out of the ground and dropping it on
the top. So when a lawn is core aerated, it
almost looks like there was a little mini dog convention,
if you know what I'm saying. Going around, those cores
sort of melt away with rain into the thatch area,
cause the thatch to break down faster, but they open
up oxygen holes into the soil. They breathe life into

(30:43):
your grass plants because the root system is getting oxygen.
The compost falls in the holes, water fertilizers and other
things moved down in there as well, and it just
makes the lawn thrive. It's one of the single best
things you can do, probably the single best thing you
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(31:28):
know we got a lot of loans that have been struggling,
because I keep hearing about them. It's been a rough
summer for our loans, that's for sure. If you're dealing
with pests in your lawn, bug out max by Nitrofoss
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(31:48):
it out there, you sprinkle it out. You need to
water it in very lightly. And what it'll do is
it'll take the product off those granules and it'll put
it there in the thatch and in the soil surface
where insects are running around. That's what bugs are hanging out.
For example. That's where you know, if you got pets
and you've got fleas and ticks and things out in
the landscape, that's where they are hiding down in there.

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It knocks them out. It does a very good job
against passing the lawn. Now you're going to find night
Foss products at places like Ingended Gardens down in Richmond
Rosenberg area, the M and D and Rosenberg. I go
down to Stafford. How about Court Hardware in Stafford another
good place to look for night foss products and also

(32:30):
Ace Hardware City on Memorial another place. By the way,
I was at Ace Hardware City for an appearance this year.
Great store, absolutely great so places you can find night
Foss products. Let's set out to champions. Now we're going
to talk to Don this morning. Hey, Don, welcome to
guarden Line.

Speaker 11 (32:47):
Good morning, Skip, hope they boutch good good, Thanks for
you today. I used your escapes based on the recommendation
by you and other people to do some landscaping for
me resultant to the storm. And they did a wonderful job.
Very pleased with what they did. Plenty of a lot
of things, one of which was, and this this is
my question, the butterfly plants. I'm going to say it wrong.

(33:10):
Was probably beauty dea or whatever. The well, there you go.

Speaker 5 (33:18):
I know what you mean by butterfly.

Speaker 4 (33:21):
How there you go.

Speaker 5 (33:21):
What's it doing?

Speaker 11 (33:23):
Well, I'm just trying to keep them alive with all
the heat and that sort of thing. I have an
irrigation system and then I supplement that when that's not enough.
But the little flower stands is sent up or call
them cones or whatever you want to call them. They
seem to be just sitting up. They're not doing much
of anything, and I don't know do I trim those

(33:44):
off after they bloom, or how they prune or deal
with those.

Speaker 5 (33:48):
So a couple of things. Boodley is a great planet,
needs lots of sunlight to do its best. But it's
a great plant. Now it only blooms on the terminals
the ends of shoots. So if you'll go in there
with that BOODLEYA and August will be a fine time
to do it. Anytime from now to the end of August.
You can shear it back, maybe by whatever percent you want,

(34:11):
but maybe a fourth or something. You're just kind of
cutting out the outside, fertilize it and water it. And
you know how it is when you prune off a
tree branch, it sends out two buds from below where
you prune two or three buds, you know, in response
to you cutting it back. And when you do that
to a boodleia, now where there was one old spent
bloom that's kind of done winding down, now you're going

(34:33):
to have two or three or more that come out,
and so your bush will be more compact, but it'll
be much more i'll say fluoriferous as a result of that.
But you got to water and fertilize it. Also watch
for spider mites and the heat of summer they build
up on boodleia. And if you see leaves that are
losing their green color and they kind of speckled ten
and then they end up almost losing all the color,

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that's spider mites on a boot lea. And so you
want to deal with that. I don't know if you
have those, but just watch for that.

Speaker 11 (35:01):
Okay, okay, I appreciate that. Just trying to keep them
alive if they're making the shock of replanning and all
that stuff. But they're looking pretty good. So thank you
so much for the lead for Pure Stakes.

Speaker 5 (35:13):
Well good you bet. I'm glad to hear you had
good results with them. Not a surprise at all. Thank you.
Don appreciate that a lot. All right, we're putting about
to put this hour in the books. Uh, if you
would like to get on the board as far as
calls and so that you'll be the first up when
we come back. Seven to one three two one two
fifty eight seventy four seven one three two one two

(35:35):
five eight seven four. I just want to remind you
I got a special guest by the way, coming in
at eight o'clock and we're going to talk about pollinators
and you know, the butterflies and the beneficials and all
kinds of different things like that that our plants bring in.
You know, plants bringing birds too. We always talk about
bird feeders and things. Those are great, but why not

(35:56):
plant things that the birds want to come to? You
know how many bird seasons here it hits upon us.
How about a plant that attracts hummingbirds? Wouldn't that be cool?
Put it's somewhere where you when you go out and
sit and you relaxing on the patio or porch or whatever,
you can see that plant and watch those little guys
come up. That'd be kind of cool. Anyway, we're gonna

(36:16):
talk about all that kind of stuff starting at eight
o'clock hour. In the meantime, stick around or go visit
my website Gardening with Skip dot com. Check out that
take all your right information that we've got up there.

Speaker 1 (36:28):
Now, welcome to k t r H. Garden Line with
Skip Rickards.

Speaker 2 (36:44):
Just watch him as many seat.

Speaker 5 (37:00):
Thank you all righty, welcome back, Welcome back to the
guarden Line, folks. Glad to have you with us. We
are here to help you. Have a bountiful garden, a
beautiful landscape, and more fun in the process. Don't forget

(37:22):
that last part, more fun. It is important that we
enjoy what we're doing out there, and gardening is such
a relaxing hobby. You know, it's good for you physically,
of course, stepping out in the air and sunshine, getting
some exercise, moving around. It's good for you mentally too,
and that is huge, a huge thing. And I feel

(37:44):
like I'm in the best profession that there is. I
really enjoy doing this. I hope you are enjoying gardening.
And if you're not well, let's fix that. Give you
a call you give me a call again. Seven one
three two one two fifty eight seventy four. Let's fix
what's wung so we can enjoy what we're doing out there.
Let's start off today or this hour. Bye, heading over
to a task Asita and talking to Jim. Hey, Jim,

(38:06):
welcome to Guardline.

Speaker 12 (38:08):
Stay, Thank you so much, Chris A skip skip Let
me ask your question real quick. On the swamp woes
Molow high biscuits. They have the big, big flowers, the
flowers right fall off. Should I cut all the way
back to the branch itself so it can go more.
Or should I just let them fall?

Speaker 7 (38:30):
Hu?

Speaker 8 (38:30):
Should I handle that?

Speaker 5 (38:32):
Yeah? Just leave the spent blooms on it. Sometimes they'll
form seed pods and if you want, you can get
some seeds from them.

Speaker 13 (38:39):
Uh.

Speaker 5 (38:40):
But usually on hibiscus, those kind of hibiscus, you just
have this cluster of blooms out there on the end
of the branch, and and one finishes today, and the
next one comes up tomorrow, and there's one waiting for
the next day. They're really good about that, So I
would just let them be. Maybe when the whole bloom
head has done all it's blooming, you could cut it
off if you wanted to, but most people just kind

(39:02):
of ignore them and let them grow and enjoy them.

Speaker 12 (39:06):
Okay, but it doesn't grow more if I cut it
back after this boom correls.

Speaker 5 (39:13):
Yeah, that's correct, Okay, Yeah, Yeah, if you wanted to
grow more, just a moderate amount of fertilizer and making
sure they stay wet. They want to be in moist soil.

Speaker 12 (39:23):
Uh.

Speaker 5 (39:24):
And they in fact, they can tolerate poor drainage quite well.
But yeah, keep the soul moist for them, and then
you'll get the most out of them that way.

Speaker 12 (39:34):
Sure and have a great day.

Speaker 5 (39:35):
Thank you YouTube, take care of Jim. Appreciate you call.
Thanks uh Microlife Fertilizer. I was visiting with Ryan for
Microlife down at the Texas Nursery Landscape Association show and
we're just talking about some of the products and things.
You know that they have so many There's liquids of
all types. I mean, there's seaweed. It's just called uh uh,

(39:58):
well it's a four too three seaweed products called Ocean Harvest.
The label's blue. How about that. It's easy to pick
things by color four two three. It is outstanding for
all your outdoor planets. You can use as a folier feed.
You can mix mix it with their seaweed product as well.
So here's what I'm talking about. A green seaweed bottle,

(40:20):
a blue Ocean Harvest fish and moulsion bottle. I think
I said it backwards there a minute ago. Put those
two together and they make an outstanding foliar feed. But
you can also drench them on the soil, drench them
down in the root system. It's got a good boost
of nutrients and being natural, it's going to break down
as microbes get a hold of those substances and turn

(40:41):
them loose and turn the nutrients that are in them loose,
and it just works really, really well. And as our
plants are struggling with the heat and you know things
that happen here in the summer, typically drought and heat
is the two big things. Micro Life products like ocean
harvest and their seaweed extract as well, those are just
going to do well, and I would recommend that you

(41:04):
give them a try, try them out. I've never tried
a Microlife product, and I'm working my way through all
of them. There's so many, it's taken me a while
to get through all of them. But everyone that I've tried,
they work. I see response from the plants, and I
have no question at all, no hesitation recommending them to you.
You can go to Microlife Fertilizer dot com, by the way,

(41:25):
and find out more about those. We are going to
now go out to Spring Branch and talk to Herta. Well, Hello, Herta,
welcome back to garden Line.

Speaker 13 (41:35):
Well, thank you, good morning.

Speaker 14 (41:38):
My questions about the shrimp client, Oh gosh, they practically.

Speaker 4 (41:47):
Grow all over the yard.

Speaker 14 (41:49):
But I pulled a four of them up and I
gave them to a friend.

Speaker 15 (41:59):
Now, she was interested.

Speaker 14 (42:02):
And how do you say the seeds of the strip.

Speaker 11 (42:11):
You.

Speaker 5 (42:15):
Yeah, I don't know that they produce seeds. I'm not
telling you for sure they don't. But I've never heard
about anybody getting seeds from them, or I've never seen
seedlings coming up around a shront plant. So it's the
underground storage structures that you know, you dig up, and
once you get those, they'll spread gradually underground. Now you

(42:36):
can root stems, you can take stem sections, lay them
on the ground and get them to form some roots
and whatnot. But I'm gonna say I don't think they
have seeds. I don't think they have viable seeds.

Speaker 14 (42:47):
I could be wrong, all right, Well, okay, well, thank
you very much for being.

Speaker 4 (42:56):
You bad.

Speaker 5 (42:57):
Good to hear your voice again. You take care, Thank you,
bye bye. Yeah. Shrimp plant's a great plant.

Speaker 4 (43:04):
Boy.

Speaker 5 (43:04):
If you've got a bright shade area and you want
to just bring some interesting color into it, shrimp plant's great.
You know, the regular kind that's kind of a coral
orange reddish color. Those are very hardy. They come back
from the ground even if you had to chop them
all off at the ground with a mower. They would

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come right back out of the ground and do fine.
The yellow kind is very pretty and has little white
flowers that come out of the yellow bracts. It's a
tropical type. It's not going to make it through the
winters most of the time and most of the listening area.
That those of you who hear my voice right now,
most of you are not going to get the yellow
kind as a repeat blimmer. But it's still a beautiful,

(43:47):
beautiful plant to have. If you got toward Katie, you're
going to come to Neilson Nursery and Water Gardens that
is in Katie on a Katie Fort Ben Road. You
turn north off Iten on Katie Fort Ben Road and
it's just a street on the right, Nilson Nursery and
Water Gardens. It's what the name says. The first of
all nursery. You walk in the front door and some

(44:08):
of the most beautiful house plants you ever see. It's
like a little tropical jungle in there is beautiful. Then
you walk through the back out to the back where
the plants are and you come to things like vegetables
and herbs and flowers. The perennials and annuals keep going,
you're getting into shrubs, trees and roses and fruit and

(44:30):
all kinds of things. It's an awesome nursery. It's your
destination garden center. And then keep going and here comes
these beautiful above ground pottery jars that are called recircling
fountains because the water comes out the top, rolls down
the side, goes into the ground, but really it's going
into a container that recirculates it back into the top

(44:53):
of the pot again. Birds will thank you for those.
You will love them. They're visually attractive. Anytime you have
moving water, it is a soothing thing, and that is
what they're all about there and Nelson Nursery and Water Gardens.
They can come in and do features for you and
your and your homescape, from water falls to the disappairing fountains,
or they'll tell you how to do it. If you

(45:14):
want to take a container home and make your own
and everything, they'll sell you the supplies and tell you
how to do it yourself. You want to go go
that route. Main thing is just get out there and
take some friends with you. It is a worthwhile place
to go and spend time. It's therapy, it's free. They
don't charge you for that. They ought to because it's
you know, it is better therapy than you're going to

(45:35):
get about anywhere. Let's take a little break. We'll come
back with your calls in just a moment. Alrighty, let's
get back on guarden line here. We got some stuff
to do. We've got stuff to talk about. Well, I
hope you have some stuff to talk about, because mostly
I want to know how can we help you have success?
So give me a call seven one three two one
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(46:00):
the other day I had to go up my attic,
and next time I have to do that almost tie
a rope around my foot and let it dangle down
in the garage below the ladder so they can pull
me out of there if I collapse. I'm telling you,
it was blazing hot, like one hundred and fifty hundred
and sixty degrees in there, sun baking down. Now, where's
where's that heat going? Right? I know some's venting out

(46:23):
and stuff, but it's ratiing down into your house, and
it's you're paying money to deal with the heat that's
in your attic. You need to call Arctic Insulation Solutions.
Let me give you a phone number eight three to
two eight or five eight six twenty eight ninety three.
Let me say that again, eight three to two five
eight six, twenty eight ninety three. Arctic Insulation Solutions are

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They'll make your home more comfortable by helping your ac
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(47:07):
They'll put radiant barrier in if you need that. They'll
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you can do, and you know, based on your budget
and what you want to do, they'll go, Okay, here's
a single most important thing. If you're going to do
one thing, do this one. You know, if you can
do two, here's another one that'll help a whole lot.

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That's how they work and they know what they're doing.
A R C T C Houston dot com. I spell
it because I always forget there's a I say r tiic.
We don't say arca tick, but it should be architect
all right, arct I C Houston dot com. Check them out.
Main thing is give them a call them come out

(47:49):
and do an evaluation. Look at what they can do.
They'll tell you. They'll give you the facts on it.
Make it easier on yourself, make it easier in your pocketbook,
and call those folks at Arctic Insulation Solutions. When a
long time ago, it was just like four years, four
years ago, I don't know. I ended up getting COVID

(48:10):
and I was not feeling well and I was walking
through the house and there was water on the floor,
and that meant there was a leak in the attic
and it was the drain line that it leaked and
came through the walls. And you don't want to hear
the whole story. It was painful, it was unhappy, that's true.
But I had to go up in the attic with
COVID trying to figure out what is wrong? Why is

(48:32):
water coming through the walls in my house. I couldn't
figure it out anyway. That's what we had up there,
and we had somebody come out and fix it. But
I tell you, that is the most miserable trip up
in the attic I've ever taken. I wouldn't recommend it.
I should have tied a rope to my foot that day,
for sure. If you don't fertilize a plant, it generally

(48:53):
lives and does fine, okay, but it doesn't do good.
If it's green, it's not as green. If it's going
to bloom, it doesn't bloom as well. If it's fruiting
for you or providing you something to eat, is not
going to do that as well. We don't fertilize our
plants enough. Typically, we just don't because we're not trying
to keep them alive. We're trying to have them thrive.

(49:16):
We want them to look their best. You got a
rose bush and you want it to look good, well,
fertilize it periodically, water it properly, prount It could put
mulch down in things. We are taking care of these
things to get the most that we can out of.
It's kind of like you can have an old nag
that drags a cart around town. I'm talking about a horse,
not people. Or you can have a racehorse and a

(49:37):
stable that can win the Kentucky Derby. But let me
tell you that racehorse isn't just out on a pasture
eating grass. They are feeding at high quality food. They're
taking care of it to get the most out of it.
Are plants. Modern plants that have been bred to be
racehorses need to be fat. And the folks that Nelson
plant food have a nutri star for just about every

(49:58):
kind of plant. You can think about nutri star little
jars fertilizer. Right now, I would say consider their nutri
star bougainvillia. Actually it's not just for boogom villa. If
you've gotten mandabella or crossbines, or whisteria, passion flowers, honeysuckle,
butter the butterfly vines that we like so much, jasmine.
It's good for all of those. But when you put

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it down, what's going to happen is it is going
to release those nutrients in a form that plants can
use over time to produce the most In this case
of a booga villa, the most bracks, the most flowers,
good healthy leaf development. You need leaves to make blooms.
Leaves make sugar. Sugar makes ballooons. That's how it works.
Nelson nutri Star line Boogainvillia plant food. It's an awesome one.

(50:44):
There's a nutri Star for palms and ornamental grasses too,
and for vegetables and for roses and for just go
to your local garden center and look for these. Nelson.
By the way, there's a dozen places around town where
you can refill your Nelson jars. So you take your
old jar, you pull the handle like you're buying peanuts
in the grocery store, you know, you pull a handle,
get that bag full of peanuts. Well you can do that.

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We know some plant foods, and it's less expensive. It's
very economical, and you're not throwing away plastic, and that
just makes good sense as smart of Nelsen's to do that.
You were listening to Garden Line. I'm your host, Skip Richter.
If you got a question for us, well how about
that we'll talk to you at seven one three two
one two fifty eight seventy four. Or if you'd just

(51:28):
like to know the letters K, T, RH every now
and then I get somebody that calls and or emails
me and goes, why don't you just give the numbers.
I can't look around through the pad trying to find
that letters. All right, however you want to do it,
we'll make it easy for you. Just let us help
you with your plant questions. I was in Ace Harder
store the other day. I bought my rec tech pellant

(51:53):
grill from Ace Hardware Store, and I love that grill.
Oh my gosh, I love that girl. And every time
I go into Ace, I mean, it doesn't matter which
barbeque cult you belong to. You may be part of
the of the Rectech or the tragger cults. A big
green egg, oh my gosh, that's its own. That is
probably the king of the cults when it comes to

(52:13):
barbecue cults. But they got Weber and everything else. They
got everything you need. You know, everything you need for grilling,
and I mean everything you know, of course, tongs and
gloves to keep you from burning your hands off and
everything else. But Ace Harder has got you covered for
those things. I like them for their tools too. I
happen to be a fan of the Walt but they
carry a lot of quality lines of tools. Battery operated

(52:36):
tools you get. Many of them will carry the Ego
lawnmowers and power weed eaters and all the other Ego
battery operated line. I've got one of those too. I
like it. But ACE Hardware is the place that the
motto was, ACE is the place right and ACE is
the place for and you just fill in the blank,
whether it's fertilizer for your lawn, whether it is gardening

(52:57):
hoses and tools, whether it is all the stuff and
talking about ACE is the place you go to. ACE
Hardware Texas. Don't forget the word Texas. Ace Hardware Texas
dot com, and you can find my garden line. ACE
Hardware strolls all the way from Orange on the east
to Rockport on the west. Uh, they're gonna be there.
You're gonna find them in places like Child's Building Supply

(53:19):
on North sixteenth and Orange, Brenham, ACE Hardware Northworest, Austin Parkway, Brenham,
Fulsheer Race FM five thirty nine at full Shore, Hamilton,
ACE up in the Bear Creek area Highway six North
and Bay Cliff, Ace down southeast on Grand Avenue just
south of Keema. Ace Hardware Texas dot com. Go check

(53:39):
them out. So in my own yard and garden I
find me. Now, you know what the thing about, do
as I say, not as I do. Okay, well, here's
a confession. It's just suing me. Nobody's listen, just ssue me.
So I'm gonna tell you. Okay, don't tell anybody else.
I let my lawn go way too long before mowing it.

(54:00):
I was traveling. I went to the conventions Antonio, and
I just had some other traveling and I can make
up ten more excuses, but anyway, it went too far
and I had to cut it back, so I cut
it back about oh probably half of the amount that
I needed to cut it back at the time. I'm
gonna let it go for a little bit and i'm
gonna cut it back again, kind of work it down
a little bit, because if you cut some lawns back

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way back when they've gotten way too tall, it's a
big shock to the lawn and that's not good for it.
But anyway, I've done that, and of course I got
the water on it again, and I've apologized twice to it,
so I think it'll speak to me again and we'll
be okay. I love a beautiful lawn. I love a
lawn that you can get out and enjoy both visually,
the kids can play on it. It just looks good.

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And you can have that kind of loan by taking
care of it properly. And that means mow, water, and fertilize.
You know, someone, a turf specialist, State A and m
turf specialist told me one time the most important thing
you can do to have a pretty lon to mow
it regularly. And I thought, okay, wait a minute, no, no, no, no, no,
it's got to be water, it's got to be fertilized. Well, yeah,
those are all important. They're very important. But the more

(55:09):
often you mow a lawn, the less stressful the mowing
is to it because you're not cutting off so much.
Like I imagine you had a shrub and you cut
it back by half and then you let it grow
to back where it was and then you cut it
back by half. That is number one. When you cut
it back, it looks ugly, and your Bermuta lawn and
in some cases zoisier lawns will look ugly when you

(55:30):
mow it back too far. But that is very stressful
to the grass plant and you don't want to do that.
The more often you mow at the proper height, the
better of your lawn will look. That is so important
and it's so simple. We know we got a water,
we know we want to fertilize, but a lot of
times we think mowing is just something we have to
do to not have a jungle. Mowing is something we

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do to make that lawn as beautiful as we can.
And I will encourage you to think about that. And
if you download my lawn care schedule, it says Skip
Richter's lun Care schedule. It's on gardening with skip dot Com.
It walks you through the whole nine yards, how to fertilize,
how to water. I have a list on there as
you go from January to December with on the average,

(56:14):
how many inches of irrigation are needed in a lawn
in the Houston area for each month of the year.
And it's not one inch all year, of course, but
check it out. You'll see that if you want to
have a beautiful on What I also recommend you do
is give the folks at year around Houston a call.
They service the area inside the Beltway and they'll come out,
they'll corroorate, they'll put a compost stop dressing on it,

(56:37):
and it breathes life back into the soils. Is the
simplest way I know how to put it. Your compacted soils,
the oxygen can't get in, the roots can't thrive, and
a limited root system means a limited lawn in terms
of appearance. You change that with correoration and compost. Stop
dressing and you'll be surprised at the difference. Their website

(56:59):
is their name year round Houston dot com. Year round
Houston dot com. If you want to give them a call,
give Cliff and the team out there are call eight
three to two eight eight four fifty three thirty five
eight three to two, eight eight four five three three five.
In the flower beds, I have some areas where the

(57:22):
water washed across one of my flower beds. It just
we had a lot of rain come through and do
that and uh move the mulch away. And I mean
the ground bursts forth with weeds like a chia pet
and that mult was holding them back. So just a reminder,
keep a good thick mulch over your soil. When you

(57:43):
block out the sunlight. Weed seeds, not the Perinia weads,
but wheat seeds. They can't get started. They got to
have sunlight. They've got a little energy in the seed
to sprout, and if they don't start getting sunlight and
water right away, that weed's going to die. And that
makes me happy for weeds to die. So basically, make
sure and keep a good thick ler maybe three inches

(58:04):
or so, depending on how coarse the mulch is. The
more course it is, the thicker you have to put
it to block out all the light. But whatever you do,
do that time for me to take a break will
be right back. Alrighty. Hey, if you got a question,
you may call seven to one three two one two
fifty eight seventy four. By the way, if your foot
isn't tapping, you better reach out and check for a

(58:26):
pulse because you may you may not have one. I
like products the Medina produces because they work. I've tried
a number of them, and I have my favorites, you know,
but I'm just saying that they work. They're all good.

Speaker 4 (58:41):
Uh.

Speaker 5 (58:42):
Medina has one called humate humic acid. Humic acid is
basically humus is the final decomposition stage of organic matter. Okay,
so you take compost past compost to its final stage
and that's humus. Now, the benefits of humus and the
humic acid, you're going to improve moisture retention, You're going
to enhance nitrogen and nutrient release, and the so the

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micro and macronutrients that are in it. It's everything that
was in a plant. So think about this this I'm
going to sidetrack here just a minute. When you take
a grass clipping or a tree leaf in your hand
and you hold it up and look at it. In
that grass clipping is everything nutrient wise that a grass

(59:24):
lawn needs to grow and live. So, and when we
talk about fertilizers, we're usually talking about the three numbers
on the bag. You know, the three numbers that you
see on the bag are nitrogen, phosphorus, and potassium. But
in order for grass to survive, it has to have magnesium,
It has to have sulfur, it has to have calcium,
It needs micronutrients like zinc and manganese. How many times

(59:48):
if you put manganese fertilizer in your lawn, right, it
just needs a tiny bed of those though. And that's
what one reason we put out azamite. You know, boron
and others are present in the asamite product. But that
grass leaf has all those in it. So when you
bag it and pay somebody to haul it off to
a hold in the ground somewhere, landfill or whatever they
do with them, you are just renting nutrients. You're giving

(01:00:10):
away the nutrients that are in their organic form, nature's
own celebrities, fertilizer and your pains somebody to take them away.
All right, So that was my sidetrack, But I'm making
a point here when nutrients that when things that were
once plants and animals organic materials, they decompose a way.
What you're left with you still have those nutrients that

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were in them. So when you put UMAs on, when
you put a product like Medina's who make humic acid on,
you are reapplying those minerals that are essential for plants
to grow. So in addition to the benefits of improving
moisture retention and holding the improving the soul's physical properties,
the structure and things, it's helping it hold on to

(01:00:53):
those nutrients. Microbes are part of the process and your
plants benefit from it. So just think about it that.
Consider these products that were made from organic materials that
were turned into quality products, and Medina specializes in doing
just that. Whether it's Medina plus, whether it's medina humate,
humic acid, if it's medina has to grow six to

(01:01:16):
six plant food. All of these things are providing your
plants what they need. And where do you get medina everywhere?
I mean, I it's hard to go into a feed store,
it's hard to go into a garden center, it's hard
to go into East hardware store, you know, Southwest fertili
I mean, Medina is widely available everywhere, and the products
work that. That's about as simple as I as I

(01:01:39):
can make it. All righty, well, let's see if you'd
like to give me a call on garden. I've got
to open lines. Kind of quiet period right now. But
that's okay. I got plenty to talk about.

Speaker 12 (01:01:49):
Uh.

Speaker 5 (01:01:49):
Seven to one three two one two k t R
eight seven one three two one two KTRH. Southwest Fertilizer
in Southwest Houston. You know that's a place where you're
going to find Medina. You walk into Southwest and you know,
they just have everything. I keep telling you that over
and over, but they have everything. But if you're an
organic gardener, let's say, or you're just someone that wants

(01:02:09):
to try an organic product. You walk in and there's
just shelves of products, quality products from Medina, you know,
from Microlife. These these brands that are out there that
are here in our garden centers to help us have success.
And that's what they do at Southwest Fertilizer. If you
are looking for a quality tool, they're a line of

(01:02:32):
Corona tools and Felco pruning equipment. You're not gonna find
a better brand than those on the market. They're outstanding.
If you are looking for the garden kneeling seat that
I talk about, and it's a little seat with legs
and you can sit on it or you can flip
it over kneel on it. The pads on both sides
of the seat and then the legs become handles to

(01:02:53):
get up and down. If you're north of forty years old,
you know what I'm talking about. After a day going
up and down and up and down and up and down,
you pay for it for a couple of days. Well,
this kneeling seats a great tool. Bub's got those there
at Southwest Fertilizer. If you want to build my weed wiper.
I was talking to somebody the other day about the
weed wiper and they hadn't even heard of it. It's like, man,
you're listening to Garland. The weedwiper is on my website.

(01:03:16):
Gardening with Skip dot com shows you how to build it.
It's really easy to build. I mean you may not
be anything like a do it yourself or you can
build this. It is very simple. But you start with
a little grab or tool with suction cups that Bob
has at Southwest Fertilizer just asking about it. Say you
want to build a weed wiper. He'll tell you what
to do. Friendly service, quality products, great selection, simple as that.

(01:03:37):
Corner Bis and nuton Runwick, Southwest Fertilizer dot com. So
in the yard, I was looking at some weeds that
had popped up, and you know, weeds have a way
of doing that wherever sunlight hits the soil, nature plants
of weed. And I was walking through the yard and
something caught my eye and I looked down and it

(01:03:58):
was the fall aster that'll be blooming like crazy once
we get to about October probably, but I saw it
in the yard right now and it was up just
kind of smiling at me. It hides this is a plant,
this weed fall aster can get like waist high tall
sprawling weed. But in a lawn where you mow it,

(01:04:21):
it's smart. It goes sideways like you're Saint Augustine or
your bermute or your Zoisia does. But it's blue green
in color, and it kind of sticks out. And I
reached down found where it's coming out of the ground.
The soil was moist. I just pulled on it as
I kind of shook my hands to the side, kind
of wiggled it up out of the ground. It's gone,

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And there's nothing wrong with do a little handpulling.

Speaker 4 (01:04:44):
Ever.

Speaker 5 (01:04:44):
Now and then sometimes I get my kneeling bench from
Southwest Fertlange. I'll go out there and flip it down.
I find a spot where there's some weeds. I got
a neighbor. Their lawn is full of weeds, and their
weeds are always coming over in my area, the seeds
and things, so I'm always having to fight over there,
but stay ahead of them. A little hand pulling goes
a long way. Not everything has to be sprayed to

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kill it.

Speaker 4 (01:05:06):
You know.

Speaker 5 (01:05:07):
Now, if you've got a yard full of weeds, I
get it. You don't want to handpull the whole yard
but just keep in mind that if you stay up
on things, you can do a lot to control your weeds,
most weeds that way. Let's see here, I'm coming up
on a break. Let's go ahead and take a break now,
and when we come back, we'll go to Kay in Pearland.

(01:05:28):
What would the world be without homegrown tomatoes? Pay another thing,
what would a gardening season be without eight hundred new
varieties of tomatoes? You can't live without. It's like, man,
there's just a constant flow from all our all the
seed catalogs and things. But who knows, maybe your favorite
one is still yet to be discovered. Let's do this.

(01:05:50):
We're going to go out here to k in Peerland. Hey, Kay,
welcome to great good morning Skip.

Speaker 16 (01:05:58):
Well, thank you for taking my call. Always a pleasure.
Has a puffos ivy that I've had since twenty fourteen
and it has done well. But during the last year
or so it's gotten very legy. The leaves are dropped
off and their leaves on the end, but there's long vines.

(01:06:20):
I mean they maybe three four feet long. Now, I
don't think the leaves are going to come back on
their part. I'm thinking about just cutting off the ends
and trying to reroot them. Is it better to try
to reroot them in water or good potting soil?

Speaker 5 (01:06:42):
Well, the roots at farm and water are long and
thin and stringy and a little different than the roots
at farm in soil. Now, you a lot things people
root in water. That's fine. You plant them the plant
of justice and grows its fresh new roots and things.
That's fine. Ideally, you know, the soil would be would
be a better way for the plant getting established. But

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water's easy because you can't forget the water because they're
in water oblished. Yeah, and so you can cut those,
you can cut those up into sections. If you've got
at least one node below the water line, it'll form
roots down there, and then you probably will get a
bud coming out of them as well, because wherever there

(01:07:27):
was a leaf that has now fallen off, you've got
a little bud on that vine.

Speaker 8 (01:07:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:07:31):
Yeah, that's true plants in general, you know. Yeah, So
even a little section of vine that doesn't have any
leaves on it is worth throwing in there because who knows,
it might root and you may get a new shoot
out of it.

Speaker 16 (01:07:42):
Okay, I probably will put them in potting soil I've
got a happy frog. Is that good potting soil?

Speaker 5 (01:07:52):
That's decent potting soil. Yeah, you can do that thing
that I Yeah. Another thing I do on mine is,
you know, you forget the water them, and then the
leaves turn the yellow and fall off, and you got
this naked sections of roe like we're describing. I'll sometimes
just put that vine up there around the pot, you know,

(01:08:13):
go across it and make a U turn, come back
across it, and then take something and pin it down.
I'll you know, like a little piece of coat hanger
been into a U and you just stick it as
a pin and then put a little soil over it there.
And now all that vine places where roots will form
in the pot and you'll get new shoots coming down.
And I've kept my pathos full when it's gone through

(01:08:34):
periods of neglect by doing that. So that's another option,
as long as you don't have like five hundred yards
of roe to try to put up there, right, And.

Speaker 16 (01:08:43):
I'm thinking that just changing putting fresh soil in it too.

Speaker 9 (01:08:47):
I think the soil is from twenty four it's.

Speaker 16 (01:08:49):
The same soil, and I thought it may be kind
of tired.

Speaker 5 (01:08:55):
Well, you know, think about nature. Nature decomposes organic matter
and and it just leaves the old stuff there as
it puts new stuff in and around it. So if
you want to replot it and maybe scrape away some
of the outside soil, or if you got some white
crusty stuff on top from deposits, you can take that off.
Just bi it back up again. Don't bury it too deep,

(01:09:17):
and refresh it that way too. Pathos is easy, you know.
Pathos makes us all look like, oh, I know that's the.

Speaker 16 (01:09:26):
One thing I can grow.

Speaker 17 (01:09:27):
I know for sure.

Speaker 5 (01:09:28):
That's right. Well, there's actually well there's actually two more.
There's a plant called zz plant zz and zebra zz
plant okay, yeah, it's a light not much light. You
forget to water it, you remember to water it. And
the other one is sen savaria snake plant, sometimes called

(01:09:48):
mother in laws.

Speaker 17 (01:09:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:09:51):
I always say that if you can't grow, if you
can't grow sen savaria, I can't help you because that just.

Speaker 16 (01:09:59):
It's a yeah, it does.

Speaker 7 (01:10:01):
It is very good, very good.

Speaker 16 (01:10:03):
Okay, Well, thank you so much. I appreciate your help always.
Thank you so much. I have a blessed day, Jacob,
bye bye.

Speaker 5 (01:10:10):
As well, bye bye. Uh Yeah, I love that I
was out in the yard yesterday and I noticed that
in my being gone, my bird feeders had dwindled down
to nothing. And the birds probably are very upset with
me because I let that happen. So I get back
out there and I get my wild Birds Unlimited products

(01:10:33):
and put them in the feeders. You know, I've been
using Nesting Super Blend all summer. The I like the
Cardinal product that they have Cardinal confetti, but I like
all of them. Actually. They have so many good blends,
and they are blends of seeds that birds want to eat,
not the red bebies that most birds don't want to eat,
but the quality seeds. And that's how it is with

(01:10:55):
wild Birds Unlimited. Right now, we're entering hummingbird season and
it's time to get your hummingbird feeders out there. Now.
When you take sugar water, let me let me, let
me do it this way. I think Rich was one
that they mentioned this to me. It's such a good point.
If you were to get you a sweet tea, and

(01:11:15):
you're drinking your sweet tea and you get about halfway
down and you just set it on the on the
picnic table outside, and two days later, three days later
you come back. You think you're going to want to
take a sip of that tea, You better not because
that's sugar. It will be nasty. And that happens in
your hummingbird feeders too, So give them fresh, you know,

(01:11:39):
rinse them out and give them fresh product all the time.
But Wildbird's Unlimited has a special little thing. You buy
a little bottle and it is able to take that
hummingbird sugar water and extend the life of it outdoor
weak or more. I mean, it's pretty amazing how it works.
I use it in mine. I like the stuff, and

(01:12:03):
just when you go into wildbirds, I need some of
that stuff that makes the hummingbird water last longer. And
do that in our Texas heat, you gotta do that.
And my tea analogy that I stole from Rich it's
a It is a good one. It makes sense. Sugar
water outside is not going to be good. I wouldn't
wonder drink tea the second day after that, but much
less several days into it. So take care of hummingbirds

(01:12:25):
given quality, quality blends. If you need to know how
to make hummingbird nectar, if you want to just purchase
it's already ready to go. You mix it up and
do it. They got all of it at Wildbirds, of
course they do because they have everything. Wild Birds Unlimited.
I always say Wildbirds and wild Birds Unlimited. That's the store.
You can find six stores in the Houston area. There

(01:12:46):
is one in Kingwood on Kingwood Drive. When in clear
Lake on El Dorado. If you're in Paarland, go to
East Broadway, Wildbird's Unlimited store in Houston on bel Air,
in Houston on Memorial Drive and in Cypress on Barker Cypress.
All of the six Wallbirds Unlimited stores in our area
makes it easy. Alrighty, we have got to take a

(01:13:09):
little break. The music means I got to quit talking,
So I will just another reminder for those of you
have tuned in recently. Take All Root Right and in
Depth Look, and something I call skip skips quick tips
for managing Take All root Right. That's the one page
fast you just glance through it. You know what to do.

(01:13:30):
You want to learn a little more about it, which
I always recommend to do. Take All Root Right and
in Depth Look two free publications. Just download them from
my website. Take All is a complex critter. It's not
just like oh, bide this fung aside and spread and
it'll go away. It's more complex than that, and so
that's why I put these on the web for you
to check out Gardening with Skip dot com Gardening with Skip.

(01:13:55):
That's meant all right, We'll be right back with our
special guest asked.

Speaker 1 (01:14:01):
Welcome to kat r h garden Line with Skip rictor.

Speaker 2 (01:14:14):
Just watch him as many give thanks to see bout
crazy a sign.

Speaker 5 (01:14:32):
Well, welcome back, Welcome back to guard line, folks. Good
to have you with us, Good to have you with
us today. It's gonna run straight outter the phones here
and we're gonna head to West you and talk to Charlie. Hey, Charlie,
welcome to guard Line. How can we help?

Speaker 12 (01:14:55):
Good morning, Skipped. My wife has some hibiscus with keeps
getting meadlea bugs. She's been spraying with I think a
detergent solution, but it hasn't done. They keep coming back.

Speaker 5 (01:15:13):
What could she do to yeah, to get them mealli
bugs are they're tough, they're pain. Uh you know the
things that you would spray on them to kill them physically,
like a detergent solution and oil spray those kind of
p'sticide it's hard to find them. It's hard to get
them on the meata bugs because that's what you have
to do to control them, and soap isn't as good

(01:15:33):
at it anyway. I think you may have to unless
you just have one hibiscus and you can kind of
go all over it and look at it and find
those things and squirt them with it and stay on it,
because you're not going to get them all. They'll be
more showing up.

Speaker 4 (01:15:49):
Uh.

Speaker 5 (01:15:49):
The only other thing would be to put up a
product in the ground and the roots of the plant
that it takes up that kills anything that's sucking juices
out of the plant, which is what meei bugs are doing.
So in other words, you put the product in the roots,
it goes up in the plumbing of the plant and
the mealy bugs get killed by by sucking the juice

(01:16:09):
out of the plant. And there there's a number of
products like that. Go ahead.

Speaker 12 (01:16:17):
That just sounds good to me. Here, what can I use?

Speaker 5 (01:16:21):
Yeah, well, products that contain imido cloprid. In meido cloprid
would be one example of that. There is another ingredient.
It's like I say in Dinosaur, it starts off d
I N O dinotepheron. That's another one that can give
up in there. Okay. I know I hate to give

(01:16:42):
out long chemical names of the radio because it's it's
hard to make sense of the words. One other one
would be orthene. Orthene is a brand. I won't give
you the ingredient on it. It's just a brand.

Speaker 13 (01:16:56):
Uh.

Speaker 5 (01:16:56):
And it has also moves us systemically. I would try
some of those on it and see how that works
for you. Just just remember when you're using those, you
don't want, you know, honey bees and things coming to blooms,
because they that product can be present in the nectar
as well. I hope that helps. I'm gonna have to run,
but thanks, thank you, Charlie. Good luck getting those under control.

(01:17:21):
Alrighty well, I've got special guest this hour, and I
wanted to tell you about it. We are bringing Danny
Linderman from Enchanted Forest Garden Center down there just south
of fifty nine Richmond Rosenberg. Hey, Danny, what's up?

Speaker 8 (01:17:37):
How are you?

Speaker 5 (01:17:39):
I'm doing good. I appreciate you coming on today. I
do realize that you probably have a bass boat park
somewhere that isn't occupied by you today, so thanks for
taking time to be on Garden Line.

Speaker 8 (01:17:52):
I wish that was the case. I've already been out
here watering.

Speaker 5 (01:17:56):
Oh my god. Yeah, that's a truth, especially in containers. Well,
it's good to have you. I've had. I've asked Danny
to come on today because I want to talk about
pollinator plants and uh, they do as good a job
as anybody I've ever seen when it comes to bringing
in plants that bring in pollinators. And uh, you know,

(01:18:18):
whether we're looking at a time when bees are often
struggling with all the things they have to deal with. Uh,
and then everybody loves to have butterflies in the in
the garden and whatnot. So we're going to talk about
those kind of things. If you've got a question about pollinators,
it could be bees or butterflies or the plants that
bring them in.

Speaker 2 (01:18:38):
Uh.

Speaker 5 (01:18:38):
You welcome to give me a call here on Guardline.
We can talk. You can talk to Danny and I
at seven one three two one two fifty eight seventy four. Now,
if you've got a question on other gardening things, well
we're going to hold those until the nine o'clock hour,
uh to open it up more. But Danny, I, uh,
I would just like to kind of I guess start
off by, uh, you telling me about some of your

(01:19:01):
favorite plants that you have there at Enchented Forest for
bringing in those kind of things. What are some that
you know, it's a great easy plant. Like if I
were going to recommend one or two or three plants,
these probably should be on that list because they're just
that good. Yeah.

Speaker 8 (01:19:18):
Always, always Lantana and salvia, those are always my top
two picks. And then we kind of branch out from there.
Greg's mist is another great one. Greg's miss is the natives,
so that that helps too. But yeah, there's so many,
so many good ones like African blue basil. It is
amazing for attracting pollinators. It's crazy.

Speaker 5 (01:19:41):
Oh I've got one of those. I've got one of
those in my in my garden and it makes a
big bush. But it just blooms and blooms and blooms,
and the bees they line up down the block to
get on that. I mean basil blooms in general, honeybees
love those, but that African blue it's just like it's
like Disney World for bees. They love it.

Speaker 8 (01:20:04):
Yeah, that that is that is true. That is true.
I was going to tell you the story. Last night,
I was I was coming in the house and it
was already dark out, probably nine thirty or so, and
I'll walk by a spider lily that's blooming at the
house and I had to do a double take. I
thought I saw something there, and it was a giant
humming bird moth sitting there just oh wow, eating up

(01:20:26):
those spider lily flowers. It's unbelievable. I love, I love
to see those things. If oh yeah, if you have never,
if you have never seen a hummingbird moth, you need
to you need to try to attract those to your
to your garden because they are just so neat to watch.

Speaker 5 (01:20:45):
They are. And for those of you listening that are going,
what's that, well, it's it's a moth that's almost as
big as a hummingbird. I mean they're huge, but they
fly like a humming bird. They sit there and hover
in midair, and they can be flying over a flower
while their long tongue goes out there and drinks neck
of the flower. And you know, they don't have to
land necessarily to feed them the flower. That they are cool.

(01:21:05):
You know you mentioned that that bloom the lily things
that are that bloom white at night and have a
fragrance seem to really attract those things.

Speaker 8 (01:21:13):
In exactly exactly, Yeah, it was.

Speaker 4 (01:21:16):
I really love.

Speaker 8 (01:21:17):
Those things because they don't move like a humble bird's
afraid of you. The hummingbird moth doesn't care. You could
you could pretty much catch it right there in your hand,
and so it's really great for pictures and videos.

Speaker 5 (01:21:32):
You know. Bringing Uh, well, I tell you, we got
about thirty seconds herefore I have to go to my
first break. But when we come back, I want to
talk about some of the strategies for bringing these in
beyond just the plants. We're going to talk about a
lot more plants, I'm sure, but strategies like you got
to feed the adults, you got to feed their babies,

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and when it comes to butterflies especially, and just kind
of that approach to it. And we'll be right back
with Danny Lender and Denny. Thanks, thanks for being on
again today. We'll be right back with you in just
a second. We are visiting with Danny Linda Munna Enchanted
for US Nursery down in the Richmond Rosenberg area, and

(01:22:12):
we're talking about things related to pollinators and plants that
bring in pollinators, including those beautiful things we love to see,
the flying flowers called butterflies. Danny, I appreciate you being
back with us, and what I'd like to talk about
are some of the strategies for bringing things in. I
kind of did a teaser for we went to break there,
you know, about taking care of the adults and taking

(01:22:34):
care of the larvae as well. You want to comment
a little bit on that.

Speaker 8 (01:22:39):
Yeah, I mean, so flowers, flowers are very important to
bring in the butterflies, right, and so to keep the
butterflies around, you'll need a host plant. So that's where
they lay their eggs, and their eggs will hatch on
that plant, and the caterpillars will hatch out and eat
those plants, and then they'll be bait and turn into

(01:23:03):
a butterfly again. So the cycle continues, and that's where
it's very important to have the host plants. You know,
flowers attract them in, you know, and people worry about, oh,
what color whatever, flowers, flowers, flowers, flowers, the more flowers,
the better flowers. Type of attracting anything.

Speaker 5 (01:23:23):
Good. That's a good point. So, you know, like monarchs
are real popular now and people concerned about the populations
of monarchs and whatnot. You know, you have a you
mentioned Greg's miss flower earlier, and boy, I tell you,
when we get especially late summer fall season and that
thing just loads up with blooms. The monarchs and queen

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butterflies are loaded on that thing. But the monarch baby
wants a milkweed around. And I know you guys can
carry several kinds of milkweed. Milkweed there in Chenna forest, right.

Speaker 8 (01:23:54):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, you know, several different natives. And
then you know, we always tropical in the traps. Some
people are you know, down on the tropical, which I understand,
but you know, definitely we always carry tropically the natives.
And that is that has been been a real hot item.
Natives in general have have just exploded over the last

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couple of years.

Speaker 5 (01:24:18):
Yeah, that that is true.

Speaker 3 (01:24:20):
Uh.

Speaker 5 (01:24:20):
And when I was out at your store, I always
like to and you go at the back, you know,
you walk in the front and go at the back
of the store off to the right. You've got all
those uh, plants that attract butterflies out there. But also
in the store, I noticed you carry seeds of things,
the native milk weed, the Sclepias tuberosa, called butterfly weed,

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the orange red flour. You got the showy milk weed
as well with its pink flowers. You got antelope porns
with those little pomp pom balls of white flowers, and
I don't know, probably some others as well. But you've
got a lot of seeds for folks that you know
want to go that route, in addition to the plants themselves.

Speaker 8 (01:24:59):
You No, seeds are always fun. It's always nice to
be able to buy a plant. A lot of times
we'll have caterpillars own the plants already, and so you
can take take home a plant ready to ready to
have your own butterfly.

Speaker 5 (01:25:14):
Yeah, it's kind of like, you know, you go get
sour dough starter from your neighbors, so you can come
home and get you your own sour dough bread.

Speaker 4 (01:25:22):
Going.

Speaker 5 (01:25:23):
Uh, this is kind of like butterfly starter. You buy
the plants, Danny will throw in a free larva or
two to go with it, because there's plenty around your place.
I think you could probably go to Kansas City, Kansas.
You could probably go to Kansas City, Kansas and interview
a migrating caterpillar and you'd say, I'm on my way
to Jenny Forest because you guys have some stuff down there.

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They know they plenty for their babies to eat, and
you don't spray to get rid of them. So that's
a good thing, right right. Well, well you mentioned salvia.
That's one of my favorite, and you guys have gosh
I I mean the other Danny and Jennier Forrest was
telling me, Yeah, I had like almost ninety kinds of
Salvi's or something, just a whole bunch of it.

Speaker 8 (01:26:10):
I don't know how many we have, but it's unbelievable
the number we have.

Speaker 4 (01:26:14):
That's something for everybody.

Speaker 5 (01:26:18):
Yeah, yeah, that's my favorite genus of plants as Salvia's.
You know, asking me to pick my people always ask me,
you know, Skip, what's your favorite plant. It's like, come on, man,
it's like asking me my favorite kid. I know which
one it is, but I'm not going to tell you.
But anyway, when it comes to plants, Salvia's, man, there's

(01:26:39):
so many good ones in their Texas tough too.

Speaker 4 (01:26:42):
That's another good sure.

Speaker 5 (01:26:44):
Well, we were talking about some favorite plants, what are
some other ones that you like? Maybe for the blooms
Uh to bring in some of the different kinds of
adult butterflies.

Speaker 8 (01:26:58):
Well, you know, so I like passion vine for the
gold friddleary that that is a beautiful, beautiful flower. And
then the little butterflies is a cutie. But that passion
vine is one of my favorite vines, which people, you know,
kind of overlooked. That CRUs citrus is a good one

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for the giant swallowtail and that's you know, citrus. Citrus
have been getting a bad name the last couple of
years because the freezes. But if you can figure out
a way to protect it or leave it in the pot,
the giant swallow tail is one of the you know,
pertier and giant butterflies. Aristolochia the pipe wine swallow tails

(01:27:41):
is as probably one of the prettier ones, not the biggest,
but prettier it said, aridescent, kind of purple purple black color,
and that is one of my favorite butterflies.

Speaker 5 (01:27:54):
Yeah. So when you when you have larva food plants,
you just have to be patient because cadipillars are gonna
gonna chomp them up. But most of these plants bounce back.
They can they can take the abuse.

Speaker 12 (01:28:07):
Uh.

Speaker 5 (01:28:07):
I know some people that will allow a few caterpillars
to remain and move the others off. But however you
want to go about it. But yeah, that's a good thing.
I love. I love the golferdllarry butterfly. And you're right
about that passion vine. My god, yea ego nuts on it. Yeah,
that's a good one. One of my favorite plants is well,

(01:28:30):
some of our natives that I like. Uh, I like
the turk's cap for example. You know, it brings in
a yellow and also I think a white butterfly that
comes into it. But it is you talk about a
bulletproof plant. Put it in some put it, you don't
water it, I mean it, it just keeps going. And
hummingbirds like that too. By we're not refeaturing hummingbirds in

(01:28:51):
this conversation, but I can't help but put that.

Speaker 4 (01:28:54):
Out because yeah, turk cap is great.

Speaker 8 (01:28:56):
We have one out in the parking lot in the
full sun, and we have one back in the creek
in the in the full shade, and both of them
are just you know, rock solid.

Speaker 5 (01:29:09):
Those are outstanding.

Speaker 3 (01:29:10):
Uh.

Speaker 5 (01:29:11):
Fire bush speaking of something with butterflies and hummingbirds and
beautiful fire bush is a good one too.

Speaker 4 (01:29:16):
And I know you're.

Speaker 8 (01:29:19):
That's a great plant too. You bet Joe Joe Pie
we another good one.

Speaker 5 (01:29:23):
I like, okay, Joe Pie and describe described Joe Pie pie.
When you say weed, people go, huh, I'm on playing
a weed described uld.

Speaker 8 (01:29:37):
I would described it as a little you know, puffball,
almost similar to the Greggs Greggs miss Okay, all right, yeah,
that's a good that is that's a good one. And
then Lee Actress. I don't know if I mentioned Lee
Actress already really good one.

Speaker 5 (01:29:59):
I think he goes, oh yeah, pentas. Yeah, oh, that's
a butterfly.

Speaker 8 (01:30:04):
I mean yeah, And that's more of an annual, which
is fine. But they are a great a great plant.
Most of most of these that we've been talking about
our perennials. So you plant them once and they'll come
up next spring again after the winter.

Speaker 5 (01:30:19):
Well, having a little of each one, you know that
that's important.

Speaker 8 (01:30:23):
That's what it is. Diversity. The diversity, I think is
the key to the life there.

Speaker 5 (01:30:30):
I posted something to our Guardline Facebook the other day
and it was a picture of Pride of Barbados.

Speaker 8 (01:30:36):
Uh.

Speaker 5 (01:30:36):
It's also called Apia as one of the names. It
has these gaudy orange and yellow flowers and orange, red
and yellow. And I like to say that if you
had a yard full of pink flamingos and you had
a Pride of Barbados in the yard, no one would
notice the pink flamingos.

Speaker 4 (01:30:56):
That plant is so.

Speaker 5 (01:30:57):
Guardy that all the eyes go to it. And you
got one in the corner of your parking lot. And
I'm telling you, every time I'm around one, I see
the yellow swallowtail butterfly on them. They love those things.

Speaker 8 (01:31:11):
Yeah, that's a really really good plant, really good plant.

Speaker 5 (01:31:14):
Yeah, that's a good one. Oh and I saw you
mentioned golfridler. I've seen those on Pride of Barbados too.
I love that plant, right, you know, when it's so
hot that you don't even want to think about going outside. Uh,
Pride of Barbados says, get out of my way. I
can do this, and it goes out and heat and humidity.

Speaker 8 (01:31:33):
And it's a it's a great plant for the winter.
You know, it'll freeze back and come right back next
next spring. We were, you know, during that bad freeze
in twenty one. We were concerned that they want they
wouldn't come back, But they all bounced right back like
like nothing happened.

Speaker 4 (01:31:48):
There.

Speaker 5 (01:31:49):
You go. That's it.

Speaker 9 (01:31:50):
They are.

Speaker 5 (01:31:51):
They're a good one. I always tell people we got
listeners that are a little further north. You know, you
get up around oh I don't know, uh, maybe north
of College Station, especially Huntsville direction and whatnot, and you
can lose one up there. But if you just maltched
the base with a good thick covering of malts for
the cool season, uh, it'll it'll keep them and they'll

(01:32:12):
come back. It's a good one.

Speaker 8 (01:32:14):
Yeah, that one in the parking lot has been there
for years?

Speaker 5 (01:32:19):
Oh has it? Okay, Well, that's a good one. Any
other kind of particular plants that you're especially fond of
when it comes to bringing in the butterflies, say that again,
any other plants that you particularly fond of. I just
like to give folks a lot of different plan ideas,

(01:32:39):
but when it comes to bringing in the butterflies.

Speaker 8 (01:32:42):
Durant is another one of my favorites. Back so back
in during Harvey, we flooded out here and we had
a Duranta bush and that was the only thing sticking
out of the water that had flowers on it. And
I bet there was a thousand butterflies on that thing.

Speaker 5 (01:33:01):
It was the unbelieve it is beautiful, and then you
get the little yellow berry. The yellow berries that follow
the flowers are also attractive, right right, that's cool.

Speaker 4 (01:33:12):
Yeah, I like that.

Speaker 5 (01:33:13):
Well, I'm up against a half hour break here, which
is going to be the news, so it's a hard
break for me.

Speaker 4 (01:33:20):
We're going to go to that.

Speaker 5 (01:33:21):
We're visiting with Danny Linderman from Enchanted Forest down in
the Richmond area.

Speaker 12 (01:33:26):
Uh.

Speaker 5 (01:33:27):
If you hadn't listened to Garden Line before, you probably
haven't heard me talk about them. But if you listen once,
you have, and it's a great place. I love to
go in there. Number one.

Speaker 7 (01:33:35):
I like.

Speaker 5 (01:33:36):
I like the way it's laid out. I think it's
just a really beautiful, cool place. But the giant shade trees.
You know, now that it's summer and it's hot and
people are like, I don't want to be out in
the sun. You go to Enchended Forest and you can
shop in shade and really enjoy all these things we're
talking about down there, And I hope you'll stop in
and say hello to them when you're there, Danny. We're

(01:33:56):
gonna come back in just a second with you and
continue this to Scusha. Maybe we'll take it in a
little bit of a bee direction for a while when
we come back. If you got any questions on any
kind of pollinator plants, give us a call here on
Guarden Line. Welcome back to the guard Line. Good to
have you with us. We're visiting with Danny Linderman from
Jenny Forest down in the Richmond area. I uh, we're

(01:34:19):
talking about pollinators and been spending some time on butterflies.
We would I think we'll switch over here a little
bit and talk about some honey bees or bees in general,
not just honey bees. We got a lot of other
great bees. If you have a question and you'd like
to ask about plants to attract pollinators in general, give
us a call. You can reach Danny and I here

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at seven one three two one two fifty eight seventy four.
So we're going to bring Danny back in here. Danny,
I was. I was just want to tell you, I
think that your employees impress me. They are friendly and helpful,
and I always enjoy coming in and being trigued like that.
But I have to complain about two year employees that
are just not holding up their end of the bargain

(01:35:04):
and that one of them is Taco. Uh and then
the other one is Hazel. And every time I show up,
they're sleeping, They're laying around, they're not getting anything done.
So I just have to let you know that.

Speaker 6 (01:35:17):
Yeah, no, I hear that.

Speaker 8 (01:35:18):
I hear that quite often. The bad news is retired,
by the way, folks, Yeah, he's he's he went home
with one of the employees. He I guess got a
little old and I think he got in a little
ruckus with another another furry friend, and uh, we decided

(01:35:39):
it may be better for him to go into retirement.

Speaker 5 (01:35:43):
Okay, good, Well, you know, the last time I saw him,
he was a little beat up. He kind of looked
like a veteran of foreign wars there. So I can understand,
by the way, folks, Taco and Hazel are cats. But yeah,
hanging around the place.

Speaker 8 (01:35:57):
Yeah I knew.

Speaker 10 (01:35:58):
I knew that.

Speaker 4 (01:35:58):
But yeah, there you go.

Speaker 5 (01:36:05):
People are going is skept calling on employees on the radio.
I'm talking about two cats, folks. Well, let's talk a
little bit about pollinator plants in general. You know, things
that attract bees and other things. You got any other
kinds of favorites.

Speaker 8 (01:36:23):
But before the break. You mentioned Durant and and you know,
well I mentioned Durant and you mentioned the yellow berries
on it. But what what stands out to me when
you mentioned that was the holly. Holly's in general, any
holly that berries is a pollenators love the flowers on it,
bees especially, and then the birds come back and eat

(01:36:46):
the berries. So that is a really really great plant
for for you know, multiple different angles.

Speaker 5 (01:36:56):
That that is true. And in addition to all the
great you know holly shrubs that you see out there,
we have to remember that our yopon is a holly.
And boy, when Jopan blooms, those honey bees and others
are they're they're happy with it. As you said, that's
a good bet, you bet. What what are some other
what are the other good plants that you like? You
mentioned African blue basil and that one, of course is

(01:37:17):
is a b magnet uh any other plants that you
like particular as far as bringing in UH bees and pollinators.

Speaker 8 (01:37:24):
So you know, we're going we're going into fall, maybe
not quite yet, but we're going to be in the
fall soon. And one of the things that pop in
my mind is diant Dientus diantis or the butterflies seem
to be attracted to diantis. As we go into fall,
we we kind of run out of the tent as
the lantanas all these other things. But the diantis are
one thing that will hang around during the fall. And

(01:37:46):
the pollinators really like the dientis. That is a really
good plant. And to a tough plant, right, it's not
a it's not a wimp of a plant. So which
is good?

Speaker 16 (01:37:56):
Right?

Speaker 5 (01:37:58):
Right? And uh, you know, when it comes to the bees,
we have so many good ones. I mean, everybody knows
honey bees, and we need to take care of those
because they too are having to deal with some struggles
that have arisen in recent years. But when you think
about bumblebees and all of the other kinds of bees
that are native, there's so many kinds of native bees

(01:38:20):
out there. Having them come to the gardens, Number one,
it does you the service of pollination, and anybody growing
things to eat, like squashing stuff that has to be
cucumbers and whatnot that has to be be pollinated, you're
going to benefit from that as well. I think it's
interesting to see them out there and watch them, watching
them do their work.

Speaker 8 (01:38:40):
Yeah, No, that's that's what I usually tell people. You know,
we're walking around. They're wanting to know which flower, you know,
attracts what plant, And I'm just stay here for a
second and watch, and you can tell which which plant
that the bumble bees or the honey bees or the
butterflies are going to go to. It's easy to see
them in action. But the bumblebee seem to really like

(01:39:01):
the like black and blue salva. It's kind of a
tubular shape. They they'll crawl in there and only thing
you can see is they're hind in, sticking out. They're
just you know, in it to win it.

Speaker 5 (01:39:15):
Yeah. I've watched them crawl into the Mexican petunia flowers too,
and I mean, you know, it's just like, uh, it's
just like something wrestling inside a tosac when they get
in that bloom start. It is cool. And I've done
what you said sitting at your place, just being still
a while and looking at a table full of flowers

(01:39:36):
and and just noticing the things that come. I wouldn't
kidding while ago when I said, you know that you
could go to Kansas City and run across a butterfly
that's on his way down there because they're they're so
many they've learned, you know there your food for them
is there every year, and they're going to show up.
And that's that's something people need to realize about building
their garden is if you build it, they will come.

(01:39:58):
You know, like like m exact. Maybe maybe the first
year they're not going to find a place, but one will,
and then then more and then more, and the more
you build that out, it'll just be it'll be the
must stop on their travels. Uh to stop in at
your place.

Speaker 4 (01:40:13):
For sure, for sure to enjoy them. Yeah, I uh,
we were talking about.

Speaker 8 (01:40:21):
We were talking about almond almond verbina almon verbenas is
one of my favorites. In the fragrance off of that
plant is you know outstanding so which is a really
good one two punch plant.

Speaker 5 (01:40:36):
That is a great one. And uh, I had one
in the backyard there when it's it's like it is
kind of an almond vern vanilla kind of smell, but
it is so strong and it gets on the wind.
And in fact, Denny, one thing I've done is where
I have a back patio sitting area. Uh, the predominant

(01:40:57):
breeze is southwest around here and and so I will
plant these things on the southwest. You know, I got
a broog Mancy out there. They're fragrant at the end
of the day. I've got an osmanthus. They're fragrant at
the end of the day. And the almond bl verbina
and white butterfly, gingers and things. And you sit on
that patio and that breeze comes blowing by and it

(01:41:19):
is intoxicating all the wonderful smells that you can enjoy.

Speaker 4 (01:41:23):
So just just to pump.

Speaker 8 (01:41:25):
It's it's neat to walk through the nursery when when
all these things are in boom and you can you know,
people are asking what does that smell? What does that smell?
It's kind of funny taking to the plant that's making
that smell and you're like, how cow can you smell
it so far away? I'm like, well, that's what that's.

Speaker 4 (01:41:42):
What it does.

Speaker 5 (01:41:44):
One year, we had a with extension. We had a
group of people that came down from all over the country,
uh down to San Antonio Botanical Gardens and we're giving
them tours and stuff. And we were walking out through
there and all of a sudden we turned the corner
and somebody said, what is that smell? What it was
was probably the gaudiest smelling plant on earth, and that
is Texas Mountain Laurel with those big old costumes of

(01:42:07):
grape like blooms. I mean, that syrupy thing was hanging
on the air and it's like it's like a load
of bricks. But I think fragrance is important. I can't
walk by plants without smelling them. You know, if you
don't want me touching your rosemary, if you don't want
me touching your copper canyon daisy, then don't plant them
in your yard because I love that citrus pine, a

(01:42:28):
copper canyon daisy. And uh and you know another one,
and I know you guys have these their nintended first
and Richmond, but boodleias. Someone called earlier about boodlias. You know,
it kind of had started dwindling a little bit on
the blooming, and I was telling them, share it back,
fertilize it and water and it'll be right back. Those
are attractive to butterflies. And some of the boodleias really

(01:42:48):
have a nice fragrance right now.

Speaker 8 (01:42:51):
They're good. They're a good group of plants. And there's
dwarfs and there's big ones, right, so you almost like
a Sylvian. You can pick anything and then you know
you want a short one, great, you want to pink one, great,
you want a blue one great. There's so many different
colors and so many different sizes. So Budley is a
really plant.

Speaker 5 (01:43:08):
It is. It is wonderful. Yeah, so many plants, so
little time or my space. Uh, but that is a good,
dependable one. Yeah. Vtext is a good one.

Speaker 12 (01:43:21):
You know it.

Speaker 5 (01:43:23):
When it's spring, everything wants to bloom.

Speaker 16 (01:43:25):
Uh.

Speaker 5 (01:43:25):
And in summer it's like not so many options. We
got some great ones, quite a few great ones, but
not like spring. But boy, vitext just laughs all the
way through summer, kind of like Craig Martle does. But
that's a good one. And I've seen some nice butterflies
on it as well. Uh, that's bad option for those.

Speaker 8 (01:43:44):
And now nowadays that we have dwarf dwarf vitext as well,
So if you don't want a big plant, yes, you
can go with a dwarf.

Speaker 5 (01:43:51):
Fac texts there there that is that is really what
a pug something I'm trying to think.

Speaker 8 (01:43:58):
Of the name of the Uh, that's the Delta series.
The Delta series will be the dwarf, and there's the
there's the flip side. There's the flip side. Vitext too,
which is a really neat plant. It's got a different
color under under the foliage which.

Speaker 4 (01:44:14):
Is really neat.

Speaker 8 (01:44:14):
And the wind, the little breeze blows and it kind
of teeter totters around. It's it's really neat.

Speaker 5 (01:44:21):
Cool. That's nice. Well, any other plants that you like
for pollinators. I mean it could be butterflies too, but
bees and other pollen.

Speaker 8 (01:44:31):
Bottle bottle brush, so bottle brush used to be very
very popular before all these freezes started happening. But that
is a really really be attracting plant right there. I mean,
the little red flowers just totally covered up with honey
bees during the during the spring, and people always come in, oh, no,

(01:44:51):
we couldn't have this by our sidewalk because all the
all the bees on it, and so I usually, yeah,
I could run my hand in inside the plant with
all the bees on it and pull it back out
and then look at them. They're like, how come they
didn't bite you. I'm like, because they don't want me,
they want the flowers. It's it's kind of you know,
people are afraid of them. But they're they're they're not

(01:45:14):
there for you. They're they're doing their business.

Speaker 5 (01:45:17):
That's a really good point to make, especially those honey
bees that you know when they sting you, they give
their life to do that. Now they'll die protect their babies.
If you get near the comb and the young and
all that, yeah, they'll come after you. But in a flower,
I mean, I guess if you grab a flower and
start smashing it with a bee inside, well, okay, that's
a little different. But uh, I work around bees all

(01:45:39):
the time and they not a problem at all. That's
a good point to make.

Speaker 8 (01:45:44):
Yeah, No, they're they're they're totally totally gentle.

Speaker 5 (01:45:49):
Some of the Hibiscus and Hibiscus family relatives can be
attractive to We have a number of those, from the
big old dinner plate size hibiscus to the tropicals. But
the althea, the southern is another good one. Yeah, that's
a good one to have.

Speaker 14 (01:46:05):
Uh.

Speaker 5 (01:46:06):
You know, one of my one of my favorite plants
is the oh gosh's my plank, oh cone flower. The
cone flowers acination right, and now there's so many colors.
I still like the old regular purple ones, you know,
because I think they They probably are among the toughest
of the acinacious. But if you like colors, if you

(01:46:26):
want something you can cut and bring inside as a
cut flower, but then something to bring in the butterflies
and the bees, they'll they'll do that as well too.
And I know you guys carry quite a few of those,
don't you.

Speaker 8 (01:46:35):
Oh yeah, yeah, we have so many different colors of
cone flowers. It's unbelievable. You know, we hadn't talked about
Diyrolysyrolys is a really good plant. I'm not sure if
you're familiar with diyrals.

Speaker 5 (01:46:47):
That's so I am really yeah. I posted a videot
post a video on Facebook for those of you who
follow the garden Line Facebook page. Go look, I don't
know we Less than a week ago I posted one
with me by a Trialis, and I cannot quit singing
the praises of that plant, Danny. I mean, I know

(01:47:07):
a very few plants that just bloom and bloom and
bloom and bloom and bloom and like Trialis. And if
you want it to be more compact or bloom more,
just share it back because it blooms on terminals. So
every time you share it. What was one bloom head,
Now you get two or three sprouts out there, and
now you got two or three more, and that is
a great plant.

Speaker 8 (01:47:28):
It is it is, you know, I'm told you.

Speaker 5 (01:47:32):
The deer don't like like it either.

Speaker 8 (01:47:36):
Yeah. I think it's this deer resistant. I mean so
I always tell my customers it's resistant, not proof.

Speaker 6 (01:47:42):
Right.

Speaker 8 (01:47:43):
So the deer when they get hungry enough or or
and like during the drought during this time of year,
they'll eat anything they need to to survive. So resistance
and proof are two different things.

Speaker 5 (01:47:56):
Yes, yes they're they're not deer proof. I used to
have a list of deerproof plants, but the deer came
into my office and opened the five drawer, found it
and ate it. Uh, And so I don't have that
list anymore. Yeah, seriously, No, I grew up. I grew
up in South Texas, and I can remember, you know,

(01:48:16):
hunting season for deer, you would find deer with literally
a punch of cactus thorns in their mouths because they
were so angry. They were literally eating prickly pear, which
is a sad situation. But that that goes with what
you just said, and that's they get hungry enough and
you know kind of all that's are off.

Speaker 8 (01:48:37):
Yeah, so Mexican olive, I don't know. I'm sure you're
familiar with Mexican olive. Mexican olive is a great small tree,
and hummingbirds seem to be on that thing all summer long, that.

Speaker 5 (01:48:50):
Right, they live their white flowers oh desert well.

Speaker 8 (01:48:54):
Yeah, yeah, they're both really good. You know, small small trees, right,
so you got to have a little bit of room
for them. But they are both really good plants for uh,
humming birds. Hummingbirds seem to be on those things all
the time and they blow them all side.

Speaker 5 (01:49:10):
And the Mexican olives a little on the coal timber side.
But for those listening down a little further south in
the listening area. And I wouldn't I wouldn't try one
in Huntsville unless you unless you want to replant it
each year. But uh, it's a it is an outstanding
I love that plant. I love the beautiful white flowers.
And but the desert willow. It used to be we

(01:49:30):
just had the native one. Now there are all kinds
of like Bubba is one that's more burgundy in the
in the color, and but there are others that are
out there, and I know you guys, I think carry
more than one kind of desert willow probably.

Speaker 8 (01:49:43):
Yeah, we we have a couple of different varieties of them.
They're they're a really good plant, really good folks.

Speaker 5 (01:49:49):
If you want to, if you want to know what
one looks like as it gets older and bigger. Uh,
you go up to to enchanted forest. Take a look
off to the left. I think it is left of
your of your front of your store. You've got a
big plant there, Am I.

Speaker 8 (01:50:03):
Right about the direction exactly? Okay, Yeah, that's been there
for twenty years or so.

Speaker 5 (01:50:10):
Wow, that's a good one. Well, and it can take
the drought. But like a lot of drought plants, you
want to make sure they get adequate drainage. You know
we have we don't have a whole lot of plants
in general. They just want to live in a swamp.

Speaker 16 (01:50:22):
Uh.

Speaker 5 (01:50:22):
There's some that can take that, but most of them.
Good drainage is important, and especially as we bring these
things from the west over here east, like the Texas
Mountain Laurel or the desert willow or there's other examples
of those. Uh, make sure they're kind of high and
dry that they get or the soiled drains adequately where
they are, uh, just so you have best results with them.

Speaker 8 (01:50:44):
You know, we we had all those plants, we had
all those plants out there during during the flood, during Harvey,
and they all stood underneath the water for you know,
a week, so they can they can take the water,
but they don't want to have every day.

Speaker 5 (01:50:59):
Wow, that's amazing. That's good to know.

Speaker 4 (01:51:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:51:02):
Yeah, uh And it now is your soil pretty clay
out there?

Speaker 12 (01:51:06):
Or what?

Speaker 5 (01:51:06):
Do you have?

Speaker 8 (01:51:07):
A pretty pretty much clay?

Speaker 5 (01:51:12):
All right? Good?

Speaker 4 (01:51:14):
Well?

Speaker 5 (01:51:14):
Uh, I got some other plants, got any other ideas
we can talk about here? We've got a few minutes left. Four,
we're done.

Speaker 7 (01:51:21):
Let's see.

Speaker 8 (01:51:22):
Well, Russellia a fire fire cracker plant. You know, it's
called a lot of different things, but kind of the
ferny foliage, that's a really neat plant for for texture
in the landscape. And the little tubular flowers also attract
the humming birds and the bees and the butterflies. But
that's a look. I just went for text texture.

Speaker 5 (01:51:42):
I do too, And I just realized, Danny, I blew
right past the break. I gotta take a quick break here.
We'll come back for just a few minutes with you.

Speaker 1 (01:51:48):
Okay, hang on, Welcome to k t r H Guarden
Line with skins.

Speaker 2 (01:52:09):
Just watch him as many good things to spots.

Speaker 4 (01:52:25):
Not a sound.

Speaker 5 (01:52:29):
All right, folks, welcome back. We're continuing on with garden
Line this morning. I appreciate Danny Lenderman from Enchanted for
us being on letting us pick his brain about butterfly plants,
pollinator plants and all those kinds of things. That was
a great visit. We're opening the lines wide open now.

(01:52:50):
If you have a question that you would like to
ask about gardening in general, any specific areas, UH, give
me a call. Seven one three two one two fifty
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eight seven four UH. Nitro Fiss has a product called
sweet Green. Sweet Green is an organic type fertilizer. It's

(01:53:13):
eleven percent nitrogen UH based on a molasses type base.
Through microbial activity, has turned into a very very nice
fertilizer that provides a great boost of nitrogen. It is
not a super slow release it is it is one
that you put it down, you watered in, and your
plants are going to get the benefit. So if you're
looking to do something right now, carry your plants for

(01:53:34):
the next month or so, getting ready for that fall fertilization.
Sweet green would be a good choice right now you
get some areas that need a little extra boost. Sweet
green would be a great product. You're gonna love the
fragrance of it. I mean smells good.

Speaker 4 (01:53:47):
Now.

Speaker 5 (01:53:47):
I don't say that about fertilizer in general, but sweet
green does smell good. In fact, I jokingly say it
smells so good that you're going to want to make
an extra trip around Loop six' ten on the way
home just to enjoy the. Fragrance, yeah, right who wants
to make a triple on? Sixtend? Right but three green
is that kind of. Product you're gonna find it Other

(01:54:09):
knight FoST type products at places like Well Enchanted forest
down ON fm twenty seven to fifty Nine Richmond rosenberg.
Area the Fissures hardwar is on the east. Side you,
know there's one In pasadena On, southmore one In laport
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thirty one eighty and head out To. Baytown you're going

(01:54:29):
to find one On alexander down In. Baytown all places
that Carry night foss. Products all, right, well looks LIKE
i got to jump out. THERE a bunch of people
were hanging on and ready to. Go we're going to
go first To. Paul, Hey, paul are you In alabama
right now or somewhere? Else right in?

Speaker 17 (01:54:47):
Horror, Troy?

Speaker 12 (01:54:48):
Alabama this?

Speaker 6 (01:54:49):
Second got a?

Speaker 4 (01:54:50):
Question all?

Speaker 17 (01:54:51):
Right good makes the flower that pops on in the
morning pops off in? Afternoon mine has got a whole
lot white stuff on? It do you have a clue
what that might?

Speaker 5 (01:55:02):
Be looks like a spray, Pangle, PAUL i missed the
name of the.

Speaker 17 (01:55:07):
Plant it's Your mexican. PATUNIA i think it is The oh,
yes floopstone in the, morning pops off in.

Speaker 6 (01:55:15):
Afternoon, yes, yeah that that.

Speaker 5 (01:55:17):
White stuff happens on. THEM i don't. Know You you
might have effect if you use a horticultural oil spread
a very lightweight summer, oil and if you do it
early in the morning before the sun starts breaking, down
that might shut it down for. You try it on
a little spot before you do it on the whole.

(01:55:38):
Plant that is a tough, plant, THOUGH i mean it
lives with that problem that you mow it to the,
ground they'll come.

Speaker 17 (01:55:43):
Right back out of here ten years, old and they
pop back up every. Year, okay let's go over to
your butterfly plant the gentleman.

Speaker 7 (01:55:52):
Was talking about.

Speaker 5 (01:55:53):
EARLIER i don't know the.

Speaker 17 (01:55:54):
NAME i just call it butterfly. Plant but my thought
here is will get you some homework when you get some.

Speaker 7 (01:56:01):
Time make a list.

Speaker 17 (01:56:04):
Of these items that y'all were talking about today that
would be good butterfly or beef.

Speaker 5 (01:56:08):
Plants so we that's a great.

Speaker 17 (01:56:10):
Idea this is the only PLANT i know of ever
seeing that it Would, hey you look at, them unless
you know what you're looking, for you can't pick them.

Speaker 6 (01:56:20):
Out but if you make that, list that would be.

Speaker 4 (01:56:22):
Awesome all, right all.

Speaker 5 (01:56:26):
Right well that's not a bad. Idea there are some
lists that exist like, that but let me look into.
THAT i appreciate that suggestion For.

Speaker 17 (01:56:35):
Matt we thank you very, much appreciate.

Speaker 5 (01:56:37):
You thanks a, Lot thank, you, brother that's. Funny thank.
You we're going to go now To richmond and talk To. Corey, Hey,
corey welcome To. Guardline, hey good, Morning.

Speaker 13 (01:56:50):
SKIP i have a question regarding, milkweed AND i have
gotten my starts and stuff adding chant and stuff out.
HERE i would do some reading on that AND i
had a question in regards to the parasitic infestation on
the on the caterpillars and stuff once they come. Along

(01:57:13):
is there ANYTHING i can do to help? That AND
i just want to just want to get that out
there and hang up And i'll listen to the. Answers
thanks so.

Speaker 7 (01:57:20):
Much.

Speaker 5 (01:57:20):
GOOD i appreciate you call very. Much thank. You, yes
what What corey was talking about is there is a
particular type of microbe that a butterfly can bring it
in and leave it on the plant, there and then
it's present on the. Plant another butterflies come and they
could get infected with, it and it's a. Concern it

(01:57:42):
does things like their wings don't develop, fully for. Example
they it affects their. Muscles, yes butterflies have muscles and
so their ability to migrate and, whatnot and so it's
not something to be messed. With the tropical milkweed is
the one he's referring. To our our native milk. Weeds
they dive of the, ground they're, gone and so there's

(01:58:03):
nothing to keep that microbe around year after year there
and so we don't worry about them as. Much the
tropical actually almost well in some areas here it lives
through the winter time and so you've still got that plant.
Part when spring comes and it pushes back out, again
it becomes a place where that disease is. Hosted and

(01:58:25):
so what we recommend is the end of the cool
season when you get a, Freezer so cut those things
back to the. GROUND i, mean just cut them way
back and get rid of all those above ground parts
and destroy, them you, know bar, them put them, somewhere
throw them in the, trash whatever you want to, do
and the next, year with the fresh new growth, arrives
not so much of an issue then until it you,

(01:58:47):
know those are brought back. In but it's not only
brought into that particular kind of milk. WEED i, mean
it's just that because of the growth habit of it
and going through the, winter it becomes a host for
that disease. Essentially so do that do you your butterflies that?
FAVOR i, know it's probably the main milk weed be
see sold because it's easy to, grow it grows, fast it,

(01:59:08):
receeds and all that kind of stuff in. Gardens but
that is a good Point corey brought. Up let's go
To greg in Northwest. Houston, Now, Hey, greg, welcome to garden.

Speaker 8 (01:59:18):
Line, yes, sir there are. YOU i am heavy with my.
Watermelon the watermelon plant puts out fifteen twenty melons and
then all of a sudden they go from this bright,
green nice looking melon to. Yellow and we've been watering
consistently in that But i'm not having much.

Speaker 5 (01:59:40):
Result how big are the melons when they turn?

Speaker 4 (01:59:45):
Yellow about the size of a?

Speaker 6 (01:59:48):
Softball?

Speaker 8 (01:59:51):
Okay and do they keep? Growing they stay on or
do they dive after the? Yellow what do you say
they stay? On they're staying. ON i haven't really gotten
down to see if they're salt or anything like. That
but they start out really green and then within the

(02:00:12):
while they're.

Speaker 5 (02:00:12):
Yellow that's very. Strange you, know there are there is
a type of watermelon that turns yellow at the, end
but THAT i don't think is what you're dealing with.
There do you know what variety you?

Speaker 4 (02:00:26):
Have?

Speaker 8 (02:00:27):
No, no it was something either the neighbors threw over
the fence or the birds bought. In, okay so well
let's see now, There, yeah go, ahead, Okay, yeah it's
it's something LIKE i, said it's grown the whole length
of the fence and.

Speaker 7 (02:00:44):
Everything SO.

Speaker 8 (02:00:47):
I have no clue on it some, Maybe, yeah it.

Speaker 5 (02:00:52):
Could it could be some kind of watermelon relative that
came in like. That you, know we have the wild
watermelons and things that can come in. There there's a
there's a disease called yellow vine disease that can attack,
watermelons but it's generally yellowing the leaves and the terminal
ends of the, vines not the melons. Themselves i'm not
aware of a disease that causes melons to turn. Yellow

(02:01:14):
that's that's kind of. Strange So i'm thinking you got
something wild in. There that's my best.

Speaker 8 (02:01:21):
Shot got anything on any fertilizer or anything might adds to.

Speaker 5 (02:01:26):
IT i know it's not going to be a fertilizer related,
thing so let me just think you're anything else that
causes the fruit to turn. Yellow nothing is coming to
mind on the, melons SO i would say pull them
up and plant an improved melon of your choosing. There
make sure that's what you're dealing. With, yeah that's about

(02:01:49):
ALL i can tell you that on the.

Speaker 8 (02:01:51):
Watermelons and if you won't let me pull it, up
just pull off the yellow wing ones and hope that
we have better luck with the future.

Speaker 6 (02:01:58):
Ones, well you.

Speaker 5 (02:02:01):
Could try that and see if it's genetically something that's
not a regular, watermelon then it's just going to continue
to produce. These but, yeah that'd be your best. Shot all, Right,
greg thank, you thank, you appreciate appreciate your. Question i've
got to run to break. Guys when we come, Back

(02:02:22):
jeremy And, seabrook let's See lloyd And pennington And bill And.
Conry you're first three. Up, hey welcome back to the Guard.
Line good heavy back with. Us we are going to
head straight out to the phones here and go To
seabrook and talk To. Jeremy, Hey, jeremy welcome to Garden.

Speaker 6 (02:02:42):
Line how's it, Going, Skip why are you?

Speaker 5 (02:02:47):
Good? Good how can we help?

Speaker 9 (02:02:49):
TODAY i GOT i got one question that's been killing
me all up past couple of, summers and then one
about the milk. Weed so my first one is about
my cagun high biscus THAT i have in. Pots the
blooms are not opening, Up they're turning yellow.

Speaker 5 (02:03:07):
And then falling.

Speaker 9 (02:03:07):
Off And i've, tried mean, While i've tried other types
of you, know insecticidal, liquids and you, know they'll limp
for a week or, two and a couple of them all,
open but then it goes right back AND i think
it's microscopic.

Speaker 5 (02:03:24):
Bugs well it could be uh, yeah well pests LIKE
i don't know about, microscopic but pest like. Aphids there's
actually a little tiny insect called the hibiscus bud midge
that can cause the blooms to abort like. That you
might try a systemic product in the soil around them

(02:03:48):
to go up in the plumbing of the. Plant so
anything sucking juices out of the, plant like if A
meadia bug were to show, up that it would earn
aphit or things it gets those that if it were
a pest related it could be. Nutrition you. Know you
know when you when you overdo the fertilizing on, them
sometimes you get a lot of foliage at the expense of.
Blooms but if yours are farming blooms and there they're

(02:04:08):
not just hanging, on it's probably not a nutritional. Deficiency,
actually heat stress when you get way up in the,
temperatures sometimes we'll see buds block drop or not not fully,
open partially. Open. Uh certain cultivars when when it's just
really hot like that will do. That not ALL i

(02:04:29):
like The cajun, series And i've had good lucks with
good luck with The cajun. Series so beyond, That, yeah
they inconsistent. Watering sometimes we'll get bud drop on. That
i've had one THAT i wasn't keeping well watered Because
i've been gone for extended time a couple of times,
recently AND i just noticed that they weren't, performing and

(02:04:52):
So i've got them back on water, again AND i
think they're going to Do. Okay those are just a
few of the things that come to, mind and you
probably have already tried to deal with.

Speaker 6 (02:05:02):
Them go.

Speaker 9 (02:05:05):
AHEAD i find that IF i water on too, much
THEN i start getting yellow.

Speaker 5 (02:05:10):
Leaves they don't like to be overwatered too. Much yeah they.
Don't they don't want to be, soggy soggy, wet that's,
True but neither do they want to get too. Dry
when they get, dry and even then if you water,
them the old leaves turn yellow and fall. Off so
you'll see.

Speaker 13 (02:05:30):
That, yeah.

Speaker 5 (02:05:33):
That's about WHAT i would would note to tell. You
don't fertilize too, much provide adequate, water but not, excess
try to avoid the. Fluctuations and, then just as a final,
thing if you wanted to try a systemic in, there
just to make sure there's not some bugs that are
in there chewing on the or sucking on the plants

(02:05:54):
that are part of. It that would be one other
step that you could. Take see if that. Helps, okay all, right, Sir.

Speaker 9 (02:06:06):
Now how DO i how DO i solve the problems
with my with these yellow wasps killing my my caterpillars
or my.

Speaker 5 (02:06:13):
Milkweed there's not a good way. Wasp they're number one
food is, caterpillars and other than destroying the, nest which
they serve the benefit of taking caterpillars you don't like away, too,
uh but, yeah in the, milkweed you, know it would
just be, uh you, know throwing a what's uh the garden.

(02:06:35):
Netting there's a there's a very fine. Mesh it's like
a window, screen but smaller squares and very, soft soft
as a bed, sheet but light weight. Material it's called
a garden, mesh and you can throw it over your.
Plants and so that would for the ones you have on,
there they could continue feeding and grow up and go
into a pupa and then the waspprunk and to bother
them at that. Stage but other than that it just

(02:06:59):
it's the, CASE i, said summer wasps her out and
that's what they do all day is eat, caterpillars take them. Home,
Thankful all, right, Sir thank you appreciate that. Call you take.
Care let's head out now To conroe and talk To. Bill, Hey,
bill welcome to garden.

Speaker 6 (02:07:16):
Line, thanks get good.

Speaker 18 (02:07:19):
Going let's Say i've got a dwarf crepe myrtle THAT'S
i had several years and it's just a wonderful plant
for me and resistant to insects and. Disease this YEAR
i bought a butterfly weed bush AND i expected it
to have, aphis.

Speaker 6 (02:07:38):
And sure enough it.

Speaker 18 (02:07:39):
Does but they now spread to the crepe, myrtle and
almost tempted to take the butterfly weed. Out but in the,
meantime as far as organic stuff for the, APHEDS i have,
two which IS i wanted to know which one you
think is, better potassium salts with sulfur or the ones

(02:08:00):
with a knee.

Speaker 5 (02:08:01):
Oil which of the, Two, well you could do knee,
oil but you're sure it's, aphids, right.

Speaker 13 (02:08:10):
Is that?

Speaker 5 (02:08:11):
Correct? Okay, yes so. Aphids aphids have natural enemies which
should find them and help get them under. Control SO
i try not to nuke the plant because when you
kill the, aphids you kill the natural, enemies and then
you end up with worse aphids because there's no natural
enemies around till they rebuild back up. AGAIN i like
insexercidal soap sprays because they're. Fast once they, dry they're

(02:08:34):
not doing anything. Anymore you have to spray them where
the aphids are on a crpe. Myrtle you will often
find aphids on the, succulent tender new growth and underneath
the leaves there are some other. Things there are some
tiny scales and white fly, peopa but that'll be underneath the.
Leaves but if you're not seeing the white flies flying,
around but the oil or the soap sprays would be

(02:08:58):
your best. Bet spray that both of them early early
in the, morning before the sun is baking down on the,
plants so that they have time to work and then
dry up before the sun comes out on Those those
would be the safest things that you could. Use another, possibility,
well you, KNOW i wouldn't use the systemic because bees
are coming to those crape myrtle blossoms and you don't

(02:09:21):
want to affect the. Bees, okay that was my next.

Speaker 18 (02:09:25):
Question is there as they can use the systemic on
the the crepe myrtle and just continue with the organic
stuff on the butterfly.

Speaker 6 (02:09:35):
Weed BUT i don't want to.

Speaker 7 (02:09:37):
Mess, WELL i, mean yeah you.

Speaker 5 (02:09:39):
Could you could do, that but only after your crpe
blooms are waning. Away and it takes a while for
those systemics to get all the way up in a
crape myrtle and do the. Work so that's just another.
Issue BUT i tend to you, know there are natural
enemies that are handling a lot of those create, bugs
and SO i WOULD i would rather if when things
get out of, hand just knock it out the, quick sup,

(02:10:00):
spray be done with. It, Uh and then you, know
it's not like you have to kill every bug on the.
Plant you just want to get the numbers down to
where they're not creating problems for the plant or creating
that city. Mold i've got to run to another. Call
but good luck with, That, BILL i appreciate. It we're
going to go now To pennington and talk To. Lloyd Hey,
lloyd welcome to Garden. Line good.

Speaker 3 (02:10:23):
Morning how are.

Speaker 5 (02:10:24):
You i'm good. Sir how can we?

Speaker 3 (02:10:27):
Help i've got a problem with a with a fig.
Tree i've got. Two one of them is Brown, turkey
the other Is Texas. Overbury the one that's the Brown.
Turkey the fig seem to get about the side of
a half, dollar but they never they never, ripen and

(02:10:48):
they'll fall. Off three years.

Speaker 16 (02:10:51):
Ago there that big, tree during that big.

Speaker 3 (02:10:54):
Freeze it proves AND i went out there and broke
the limbs off and it came. BACK i, mean, it's,
oh it's growing. Tremendously but do you think that went
back to the rootstock and there's something there or?

Speaker 18 (02:11:07):
No what do you what do you?

Speaker 16 (02:11:08):
Know?

Speaker 5 (02:11:09):
No absolutely absolutely. Not figs don't have, rootstock so that's
not the. Case i've got about forty seconds here BEFORE
i have to go to a heard. Break what size
did you say those figs were reaching before they stop?

Speaker 7 (02:11:22):
Growing, no.

Speaker 9 (02:11:24):
Nearly nearly side of a hand.

Speaker 5 (02:11:26):
Dollar, okay all. Right it's some type of a. STRESS
i don't know for sure what it, is but it's
some type of. Stress it's affecting. Them some figs are
more prone to that than. Others in time they ought to.
Ripen BUT i have run into, situations you, know where
you get these figs and they just hit a point
and they shut down and. Stop it's not related to a.

(02:11:47):
Pest it's nothing to spray. For it's somehow more. Physiological
i'm going to look into this a little, More, lloyd
because you got me. Curious. Now i'm going to see
IF i can pursue this and get a better answer
for you that Than, yeah that happens and you can't
spray for. It Got i'm, SORRY i do have. To
i've got absolute heart break. Here in five, Seconds i've
Got i'm gonna put you on. Hold we can come

(02:12:08):
back to you after the. Break we'll be right. Back.
Folks all, right we are back. Here we're gonna go
back real quick here To. Lloyd, lloyd just to wrap
up that fig. Question you know. Figs first of, all
as a fig, develops there's a couple of periods sometimes
they call them stagnation, periods where the fruit grows a
little bit and it stops and sits for a, while
and then it may grow a little toward the end

(02:12:28):
and stop and sit there before. Ripening. Ripening anything that stresses,
them and that includes high high heat will often cause
them to kind of go on hold a little, bit
and so other THAN I guess What i'm saying, IS
i don't know anything in your power to do other
than don't let them be drought, stressed don't overfertilize them with.
Nitrogen but they should continue to. Ripen it's just a

(02:12:53):
fact that sometimes we deal with, that you. Know You
green figs often will not ripen, well they won't write
off the, tree so don't pick them and expect them
to ripen. Inside but that kind of delay and pausing
is something we just have to deal. With, Uh and
there's NOT i don't know anything to tell you other
than the things not to.

Speaker 11 (02:13:12):
Do.

Speaker 5 (02:13:12):
Okay are they self? Pollinators, yes the figs we grow
here are self Pollinated. California they grow a type that needs,
pollination but we. Don't we don't grow those. Here what
what variety do you?

Speaker 4 (02:13:25):
Have do you?

Speaker 3 (02:13:25):
Know they're they're one of them is text is ever,
bearing and one of them is brown.

Speaker 5 (02:13:30):
Turkey i'm sorry you told me that before the, break.
Yep But i've.

Speaker 3 (02:13:36):
Gotta i've got a bee add on the other end
of my garden about fifty yards and any times during
the Year i've got his highest fourteen hundred bee.

Speaker 5 (02:13:44):
Ads, yeah, no, no no effect by bees at. All,
now no effect by. Bees those varieties don't need pollination to.
Ripen all, Right i'm gonna have to run to another call.

Speaker 7 (02:13:56):
Here but what.

Speaker 3 (02:14:00):
Do you think it could be the?

Speaker 5 (02:14:01):
Nitrogen if you overdo, nitrogen that can affect fruit, performance
development and. Whatnot they go in more of a vegetative
state than a. FRUITING i wouldn't overdo the. NITROGEN i
wouldn't let them lack for. Water you can't control the temperature,
outside so it's gonna be a matter of wait and

(02:14:21):
watch and. See and all varieties are, different not all
of them perform the. Same and as you've, indicated one
of your varieties does this more than the other. One
that's just part of the. PACKAGE i know you want
to do something about, it other than things you should not.
DO i don't know anything you can do to make
this change on your, figs but hopefully if those will

(02:14:43):
hang around and you will get some ripening eventually on,
Them i'm gonna have to run. It we're going to
go now To teresa In. Houston, teresa how can we
help you on?

Speaker 8 (02:14:51):
GUARDLINE i have A norfolk.

Speaker 19 (02:14:55):
Pine it's about five feet tall in a. Pot it's
about to foot across pot And i've had it for many,
years AND i have an exposed route at the bottom,
here AND i have gotten little pines growing off of that.
Route And i'm thinking back on the many Times i've

(02:15:17):
heard people call in about their, norfolks and when you've
got a, problem it's usually, oh, sorry say goodbye to.
It But i'm, wondering IF i cut those little pines
that are growing off of that exposed, route CAN i
save the original by?

Speaker 5 (02:15:35):
Footer, well, YEAH i mean you can leave them or
you can cut them, off whichever way you want to. Go,
OH i, DON'T i don't what what Is what is
it about the original plant that you're not? Liking?

Speaker 19 (02:15:53):
What?

Speaker 5 (02:15:53):
What what are you unhappy with from the original?

Speaker 19 (02:15:56):
Plant, now there's Nothing i'm unhappy. WITH i just remember
in the past people calling in about their, pines and
it seemed to me that when you had a problem
like too. MANY i don't remember what the issue was
along the, Way but the original five footer looks. Great

(02:16:19):
it's these little ones growing off that exposed. ROUTE i
was afraid that that was gonna bleed the big guy.

Speaker 5 (02:16:27):
Dry, well no it, won't you, KNOW i, mean if
you want to keep it a single trunk tree like. That,
yeah you can cut those, off no. Problem. Okay norfolks are.
Tough i've got some outside that SOMETIMES i don't remember
to water them for a while and they survive and
they're in the, pot they survive. Fine the main thing

(02:16:49):
that we deal with on norfolks is they can get
spider mites and that'll cause the nice green foliage to
kind of start to get speckled and lose its green.
Color spider mit are easy to blast away with water
if you get you a strong spray of water and
just blast all through the leaves and it knocks a
bunch of them, off and its excidal soaps an, Option but,
UH i don't think you're dealing with, That SO i

(02:17:10):
would say it's, okay if you want to cut those,
off cut them, off it'll be all. Right but if
you don't leave, them if you think you like the
look of, that you certainly.

Speaker 4 (02:17:18):
Can lead them to all.

Speaker 8 (02:17:19):
Right, okay.

Speaker 5 (02:17:24):
You, bet you. Bet thank you for that. CALL i appreciate.
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(02:18:07):
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(02:18:28):
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i'm gonna take a quick break. Here when we come,
back we're going to go to talk To pete In,
galveston and somebody else is just called. In, hey welcome

(02:19:11):
back to Guard. Line all, righty let's jump back on
the phones. Here, boy thing's been hopping here this afternoon
or this. Morning as we get toward the end of the.
Morning let's go out To galveston now and talk To. Pete, Hey,
pete thanks for. Waiting welcome To Garden.

Speaker 7 (02:19:28):
Line, Morning.

Speaker 20 (02:19:30):
Skip we are building a raised bed and are planning
to use pressure treated lumber for the frame with a
with a plastic sheeting to protect.

Speaker 5 (02:19:45):
It do we need to be worried.

Speaker 20 (02:19:47):
About any chemicals coming from the wood back into the
into this all planning to grow?

Speaker 5 (02:19:54):
Vegetables, well that is a can of. Worms. Question h
the research That i'm aware of that's been done on
modern treated, wood not the old arsenic treated, wood is
showing a minimum of leeching out and. Concern you, know
first OF i has to get in the. Soil, second
the plant has to end up taking it. Up people

(02:20:17):
that do grow their own food or people that are
going to go out in the garden in your shorts
and sit on the edge of the wood and skin
exposure and things like, that they often have a concern about.
That AND i understand that you could do a plastic
lining if you want to be extra, careful you could
certainly do. That but you, know there's a. RANGE i
know a lot of people that just garden and treated

(02:20:38):
wood and they're they're not concerned about. It if you
have some, concerns SO i would do a plastic lining on,
it But i'm not telling you no if you. Don't
if you don't do, that you're going to die of
treated wood poisoning or.

Speaker 20 (02:20:49):
Something well that's that's all we needed to, Know thank
you very.

Speaker 5 (02:20:54):
Much, Yeah and if you do a search For Washington
State university and treated, wood do that. Search there's some
there's a research thing where they go into the detail
about it and you can look at it at that
helps eaze your mind a little. Bit, okay thank, you thank,
you thank, you appreciate appreciate your. Call, yes, sir all,

(02:21:16):
righty let's go To kevin And. Tomball, Hey, kevin welcome
to Garden.

Speaker 15 (02:21:20):
Line Morrin, skip thanks for taking my. Call we have
a lemon tree that we kept in a container last
year and then we put it in the ground this,
year and it's got some lemons on the, oh not
quite the size of a tennis, ball but on the.
Leads i'm getting a kind of, waxy almost kind of

(02:21:43):
knotty stuff on the, top you, know on the bottom
And god would appear to be some some kind of,
eggs something very, tiny little dark brown speck and sometimes
with a little web under the call on the. Leaf, TOGETHER.

Speaker 6 (02:22:02):
Na help me.

Speaker 4 (02:22:03):
Out, yeah.

Speaker 5 (02:22:07):
The number one thing we have on citrus here is
citrus leaf. Minor when the leaves are young and tender
and starting to, form this little fly lays and egg
and the leaf and then the larva crawls around between
the top and bottom, surfaces feeding and it causes the
leaves to cup and twist and. Turn you'll get a silvery.
Look if you look real close on a little bit larger,

(02:22:28):
leaf you'll see trails through the. Leaf that's leaf. Minor
some of the things you're describing are kind of a
little different than, that and So i'm not real. Sure
i'd have to look at some, photos and if you'd
like to send me, photos i'd be glad to look
at them and just confirm that there is or is
not any additional thing going on. There but leaf miner

(02:22:49):
is the elephant in the. Room AND i don't know
of any real big citrus problems other than leaf miner
from an insect standpoint that we have to deal with
here on the large, skill.

Speaker 15 (02:23:01):
All, Right and a solution for leaf miners would be
WHY i hate wel go, Ahead, Yeah i's concerned about
spring with you know where the citrus.

Speaker 5 (02:23:17):
Are, yeah, Okay so the leaf miner attacks immature leaves
that are developing and expanding in. Size once your citrus
leaves become you, know dark green and leathery like they,
do the leaf miner doesn't attack. Those it's the young succulent.
Growth so whenever you're having a flush of, growth you

(02:23:40):
can get your little spray. Bottle you don't have to
mix up a, lot unless you have a huge lemon,
tree which sounds like you. Don't uh JUST i just
mix up on those a little like a Wind ex size.
Bottle you, know you can buy those spray, bottles put
some spin those set in. It according to the label,
spinosa it is. Organic it soaks into the tissue and
it kills the leaf miner because it soaks in and

(02:24:03):
kills the leaf miner, inside and so that is the
safest way to go about killing a leaf miner that's. Inside,
now if you've got an older tree that's large and,
FINE i don't even, spray recommend spring them because, yeah
you get some leaf minor, damage but it's not killing
your tree or significantly affecting your. Production if it's a
young tree and you're trying to get it to grow

(02:24:24):
and things like, that yeah that. MATTERS i got a
couple of young citrus first year in the ground in my,
yard and treating for the leaf miner is part of the,
deal BECAUSE i want those things to have every square
inch of leaf area they can to catch sunlight and
support growth and eventually start making. Fruit so that would
be a. Cause but if you're just looking at old you,

(02:24:47):
know regular citrus. Leaves they look. Fine you don't need
to spray. Those it's a, young tender. Growth that's when
you get out. There just a quick squirt on the
new growth as soon as it comes, out because they'll
hit it very quickly and it'll S i'm down for,
you all, Right, OKAY i appreciate, It thank? You all right, Now,
KEVIN i don't know how much you listening To, gardenline

(02:25:09):
but my policy here is my advice is, free BUT
i expect you to give me half of the produce
you grow as a result of my. Advice so if
you'll just plan on bringing half the lemons to KT,
rh we'll call it. Even all, right, okay fair, enough thank?
You yeah, Yeah And i'm. Kidding don't risk your life
getting out On Houston roads to bring me. Lemons you

(02:25:31):
take care of a good. Weekend oh, Man, hey, wow
today is zooming By let's, see we've got A i
don't know when my playoffs coming up, here but pretty
quick we're a couple of minutes away before the music
starts to. Hit so while we're talking about, THAT i
did want to mention a thing or two additional. Here

(02:25:52):
if you've planted a plant in the last few, months
and certainly if you planted one in the last few,
weeks those plans most of their roots are still in
the original, container or if it's been a month or,
two they're adventuring out from that container. Area but focus
you're watering on those areas because that's where the roots.
ARE i tell people, that, like if you were to

(02:26:13):
plant a plant, today which you can, do imagine that
you took the whole pot and buried it in the
ground instead of taking the plant out of the pot
and burying. It i'm not saying bury the. Pots i'm
saying imagine because where the roots will be for weeks
now is primarily in the area of the cylinder you
put in the ground full of, roots and that you

(02:26:34):
want to focus your watering there that and a little
beyond that area and encourage those roots as they come
out into moist soil to keep. Growing but people forget
that because in a garden center in the, sun they're
watering those plants every, day trying to keep them alive
in this. Heat you put it in the ground and
not much has. Changed you need to water it essentially

(02:26:54):
almost every, day depending on how much sun it's, in
and so. On but you need to keep the area,
moist but not, sooping soggy. Wet if you drown the,
roots they can't get oxygen and you will kill a
plant faster in summer heat than anything by drowning the.
Roots so keep them, moist keep them. Going as the
weeks go, by as the months go, by your wetting

(02:27:17):
a larger and larger and larger. Area and when that
plan has had a full season to get in the,
ground then you just water it like you would water. It,
okay but just keep in mind that a brand new
plant or a relatively new, plant its root system is
still very confined because it hasn't had time to venture out.
Yet all, right there's your. Tip don't forget if you

(02:27:38):
got lawn, issues you need to check out my two
publications on take all root. Rot one is an in depth,
look the second one is a one pager with just
quick tips on take all root. Rot there on my
website gardening with skip dot. Com that's where you can
also download the lawn care schedule and the pest disease
and we'd management. Schedules everything's. Free get those printed out

(02:28:00):
because we're fixing to come in to some more past
and fertilizing seasons here and we want to be ready
as well as some disease seasons
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