Oak Tree Oopsies

Skip Richter takes you questions all morning long!

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:01):
Welcome to kat r h Garden Line with Skimp Richter's.

Speaker 2 (00:05):
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Speaker 3 (00:10):
Can you shrimp?

Speaker 2 (00:13):
You just watch him as worm golden glasses and gas
became you d That are so many pro takes to
suppers in the way the gasses.

Speaker 4 (00:25):
Like gas and again you dates.

Speaker 5 (00:27):
Almost becomes back, but not a sound in the glasses and.

Speaker 6 (00:32):
Gas and.

Speaker 7 (00:35):
The sun bemon of a.

Speaker 6 (00:37):
Dream presit the gases and gas?

Speaker 8 (00:40):
Maybe can you jam.

Speaker 5 (00:44):
Starting out of a dreaming in the gases.

Speaker 2 (00:47):
Like gas became you did?

Speaker 9 (00:50):
Everything is so clean.

Speaker 5 (00:52):
And see and never thing is sung you in the
hand the ram.

Speaker 3 (01:09):
All right, good morning, want usd s Gooden Morgan, glad
you're here with us this morning on garden line. Let's
do some garden day. If you've got a gardening question,
you can give me a call at seven one three
two one two eight seven four seven fifty eight seventy four. Well,

(01:34):
how about this weather. We are getting a little bit
of a cool snap here, the coolest one we've had
so far since last February, I believe, and brought with
us some rain. We could always use rain. Our plants
are very appreciative, especially trees and shrubs. And things that
have foreign extensive root systems. They need a good soaking
in the soil. So everybody's happy out there. Now, it's

(01:58):
not exactly a day you're going to want to be
outside a lot. Got a cold chill going on. Depending
on where you are in the listening area, you could
be everything down to chill factor down to about thirty
five up in the northern part of the listening area,
into the forties for sure further south. So what's it

(02:18):
good for today? Well that today is a gardening day.
Remember I say this all the time, and here going
to approve it today. Every day's a gardening day. And
so what am I going to do gardening wise? Well, inside,
I have some houseplants. We just had a plant swap
at my house yesterday. Is my wife's idea. I had
family and everything over and she said, look, everybody brings
some plant. Don't go buy an expensive plant. You know

(02:41):
where this is almost like a white elephant gift kind
of deal.

Speaker 8 (02:44):
Bring me.

Speaker 3 (02:44):
You're tired, you're weary, you're about to be put in
the accomplish pole plants. And we did a plant swap.
There's everything from rooted cuttings to I had a couple
of aglaemas. I keep propagating them. Why I don't know,
and I had to, so I threw one or two
of those in that was I don't know. If Charlie
Brown had aglionema, it would be like the one I

(03:07):
put in the plant swap. Some people are glad to
get them. So anyway, I've got to get out there
and do a little bit of repotting and some other
stuff I say out there. I've got my propagation center
set up in the garage, and I'll talk a little
bit more about that as we go through the morning today.

(03:28):
Creating your own indoor plant growing center. You could call
it a plant hospital. It could also be that, or
it could be just a place for starting new seeds
and cuttings and things. But we will get to that
as we go through. Just remember that the weather is
no reason we have to stop gardening. Be a great

(03:50):
day to In fact, I you know, even when the
weather is not great, I don't I like to get
out to garden centers. I do. And I'm not talking
about pouring down rain and you know you're getting drenched
walking around. I'm just talking about when it's threatening a
little bit an you can still get out and walk
around and look at things, and you kind of have
the place to yourself, and you also kind of have

(04:11):
the staff to some degrees less less crowded, and so
you can get out there and ask questions and look
at things. The gift shops are awesome right now again,
and take advantage of a little bit slower time out
at the garden center and get out there and look
at the cool stuff that they have. Christmas trees are outdoors.

(04:32):
Most of our good independent garden centers are taking good
care of those and as a result, boy, on a
day like this, those trees are happy. They're doing fine,
good shape and ready to go home with you. Maybe
that'd be a good thing to do this afternoon. I
should get back to the house anyway. Lots of things
we can talk about and do. I want to talk

(04:53):
a little bit about the upcoming pruning season. We're still
a little bit ahead of it, but this is a
big time to start thinking and talking about it. We
have a lot of questions come in on pruning on
garden line. And you know, I was a County Agrolife
Extension horticultures for thirty five years here in Texas three
years outside of Missouri. I wandered out of Texas for

(05:15):
three years and was a fruit growing specialist up there
for the university. Up there and back here, I get
a lot of questions and we did field days where
we would go out to a peach orchard, for example.
I remember, I don't know if it's still around or not,
but Rudy Geeky had a peach orchard in the Woodlands

(05:37):
area and we would do field days out there. Pretty
I was real small orchard, but it was a very
well tended orchard. He did an awesome job of it
and teach people how to prune, talk about things, you know,
hands on. I always liked that kind of learning anyway better.
But we would go out and do pruning. So let's
talk a little bit about printing today. First of all,

(05:58):
pruning needs to be done in the right eight season
for the best results, and it used to be done
the right way, and that is the most important thing.
You can drive around town and see the results of
malpractices of pruning. Oh gosh, there's a there's a Facebook page.

(06:18):
What is it called Crimes of Horticulture or something like that.
It's I know, crime. I think crimes is I'll find
it before we get a break here in a minute.
But anyway, it is hilarious and it is pictures from
all over the country of pruning things that people have done.
You just go, Okay, some places you think, I think

(06:39):
doctor Seuss lives there, based on what they did to
the trees. Others like what were they thinking? And then
others it's like can you do that in your yard?
Is that allowed in nature? Anyway? So that's kind of fun.
But I see a lot of different attempts at pruning
and things, and so we're going to talk about proper pruning,

(07:00):
just to printing tools for printing and stuff like that.
Plus it will give you a chance to maybe jot
down another gift or two on your giving or getting
a list if you have those, that would be really
helpful because nothing is better than a really good quality
tool when it comes to getting a job done in

(07:21):
the yard taking care of your plants. Let's let's start
off by going to our first caller today, BJ's out
in Baytown. Hey, BJ, morning, Welcome to garden.

Speaker 10 (07:32):
Thank you, Autumn Sage lipstick. What do you know about
that plant?

Speaker 3 (07:39):
Autumn Sage, what mystic is that the name of Autumn
sage lipstick. Yeah, yeah, So I don't know why we
called I'm going off target here of your question, but
I just have to say this. I don't know why

(08:00):
we call autumn sage autumn sage because it blooms all year, right,
and but any anyway that has bugged me. We call
it gregs For those of you listening and going, what's
autumn side, it's Greg's sage. That'll be a greggy I
Sometimes it's called cherry sage because the original types were

(08:21):
kind of cherry colored. But there there's a variety called lipstick,
and lipstick it has its own kind of unique look
to it, the way that the flower is kind of
painted in the color and everything like that. It's a
it's an excellent plant. There is another one that's like it,
BJ called Hot Lips, and Hot Lips has a white

(08:44):
bloom with a little red line across the bottom like
lipstick on it too. But I am I talking about this?
What what exactly are you want to know about it?

Speaker 10 (08:55):
Container? Does it stain in a container? Does it spread?
Can you put it in a flower bed?

Speaker 11 (09:02):
What would you?

Speaker 3 (09:05):
I would because it's easier now if you've got containers,
and you don't mind taking care of containers and stuff.
It's fine. For a container, I would give it a
larger one so it has a little more solt volume.
This is savvier. Greggy eye is one of our Southwestern
natives here in Texas and Mexico. Uh and uh. It
is a is a very tough, hearty plant. But those

(09:28):
kind of plants are tough and hardy because they know
how to put out a very extensive root system, long
and far, to reach all through the soil and get
moisture from places where you know, when it gets droughty,
it's not so in a container with a confined root system,
you gotta water it, you know, to make sure it
does okay. But in the ground it's once you get established,
you almost never have to water it.

Speaker 10 (09:50):
Okay, that was my question. Thank you skip so much.

Speaker 3 (09:54):
Yes, well, I have to tell you one more thing
that wasn't part of a question, but isn't It is
an important one with with Salvia gregy. This is, by
the way, is not specifically Salvia gregy. It's a cross
of them, but it acts very much like Salvia grege.
The more you share these, the better they do. So
when we get out of winter, cut it back by
about a third, and give it a little fertilizer, and

(10:17):
then let's say end of May, share it back again,
and you're gonna think, well, there's flower on it. Yeah,
but the best flowers are when you shear it and
you get new growth. It looks good. And I would
share it three times a year, at the end of winter,
at the end of May, and at the end of August.
And I'm talking about just back by about a third.

(10:38):
Winter you can cut it back byhalf, but in the
other time just a third, and you will see so
much growth because every time you cut that plant back,
instead of one shoot, a salvia shoots. Blooms are all
at the ends of shoots. So instead of one when
you cut it back, now you have two shoots that
come out, or three. Now you got two or three
blooms where there used to be one bloom. And that

(10:59):
plant just gets this year and just covered in color.

Speaker 10 (11:03):
Right, that sounds perfect.

Speaker 8 (11:05):
Thank you?

Speaker 3 (11:06):
If I say it, you bet appreciate your call. Take care.
My favorite genus of plants is Salvias. I love salvi
And now you know there's only one hundred thousand million
different plants out there, and I'm still learning what they
all are. I mean, that's a lifetime uh process that

(11:29):
you never finish. But anyway, of all the groups, I'm
just impressed with Salvius. They're beautiful. They bloom, they bloom,
many of them bloom over and over again. We've got
some that just bloom in the fall, which is kind
of cool, uh for for filling in that season.

Speaker 8 (11:42):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (11:43):
And it's good tough plants. All right, let's take a
little break here and we will be right back. It's
been a long time since we've had any ready to
talk about, so we're gonna we're gonna do a little
bit of that here and there this morning. You know,
there's a little Hey, welcome back to Guardenline. Good you
with us. We're talking about pruning this morning, and so

(12:04):
I'm going to continue to Yesterday we talked about what
do you talk about it? Oh, we talked about holiday
plants and holiday uses of plants indoors for the holidays
and stuff. So today we're going to switch over and
do a little bit of stuff on printing. First of all,
when you're going to get out and do pruning on plants,
so you need to do some studying up ahead of time.

(12:25):
It is important to know how to prune a plant,
because if you don't, you just mess things up. And
that's what happens to crape myrtles every year. You know,
we got landscape crews, have nothing to do, it's wintertime,
and so what do you do. You give them a
pair of woppers and say, go out there and reach
out and cut down, cut off, cut off everything, just
a little bit of a head high, and we end

(12:46):
up with these butchered crape myrtles that then re sproutl
these sprouts that end up breaking off, and it's just
not good. It's just ugly. It ruins the beautiful form
of the plant. But I will say this though about pruning.
It's your plant and you can do what you want.
And a lot of people do a lot of things
that I would not consider doing in a million years,

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but it's their plant. So I don't want to be
a snob about crepe murder, but I don't think it's
a good way to go about it. It's not the
best way to prune that plant. But if you want
to do it, it's your plant, you get to do it,
that's for sure. Whenever you're going to prune. It's important
to understand what happens when you make a prune and cut.

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And one of the things that happens is that there
are hormones that are actually flowing down in the branch.
Let's say you have a very straight upright shoot and
you cut it off, and then all of a sudden,
all these other shoots start to grow. Well, why did
those shoots start to grow? What made those buds had
been sitting there all along, what made them start to grow? Well,
you remove a hormone that inhibits bud growth that is

(13:51):
flowing through the branch, and it's produced by the boss
bud at the end of the branch, called the terminal bud,
the apical bud, And so when you remove it, these
other buds now are free to take off and grow,
and that's what they do, and you end up when
you do that, that's called a heading cut. Think of
it like this, Grab a broomstick. Look at the end.
When you chop a branch off, like the end of

(14:12):
a broomstick, you're going to get a crow's foot of growth.
Like if you take all your if you take your
hand and point all your fingers straight upward, that that's
kind of what happens. Your arm is the branch and
your fingers pointing up or all the shoots that come
out at the end. That's a crow's foot, and it
is not good for building strong structure in a plant.

(14:33):
It is good for creating a hedge. It was just
telling Bjay that she can prune and share back her
salvias three times during the year, and each time you
do it creates that little responsive growth. A bunch of
shoots grow, so instead of one, you have a bunch,
and now you have more flowers because they bloom in
the end of flowers. Roses do that too, by the way,

(14:53):
are end of shoots. So when you cut back like that,
you get that response and that can be used for
your advantage again when you're trying to create a compact,
dense shrub. But when you're trying to build structure in
a plant, those that's those are very weakly attached shoots,
and it's not a good way. There's another kind of
cut called a thinning cut. You got to kind of

(15:15):
bear with me. I know this is too early to
be doing this, but anyway, bear with me. A thinning
cut is where let's use a highway as an example.
So you are you're going down I ten and all
of a sudden there is an exit ramp, and right
past the exit ramp there's a roadblock where you can't

(15:37):
keep going down I ten and all the cars have
to turn off and exit there. A thinning cut is
like putting that roadblock on the highway right past a
side shoot. And so instead of the end of a
broomstick cut where it's just like everything ends right there,
you have a side shoot going out. So you come

(15:58):
down a branch to where they're there's a side shoot,
and you cut the branch that you're wanting to cut off,
but you cut it off just above that sideshoot, and
now the growth is redirected down that side shoot, like
traffic is redirected off the highway down off an exit ramp.
And that kind of cut doesn't create as much re
sprouting in most cases. I mean, unless it's a huge

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branch and a little tiny side shoot, then that's not good.
But anyway, that's a thinning cut. And so when you're
building a structure of a tree and you want a
good strong branch structure, when you're training and creating that
kind of structure, especially those thin cuts are very important,
and there are other ways that they're used in a quality.

(16:43):
An arbist knows what they're talking about. They know how
to do these, how to prove properly, and that helps
in time because you know, from the time you plan
a tree, training begins and a lot of times people
plant a tree and it's like, well it's a little well,
as it gets a little bigger, I'll start to prune it. Okay,
Just remember that there are branches on the tree that

(17:08):
you buy that don't need to be there, and so
you need to be thinking about when you're going to
take those off and how you're going to take them off.
And you know, there's a thing that white of men
climb mountains in the entry is because they're there. Is there,
so I'm going to climb it. Sometimes that's how we
do pruning too. Why do we prune our plants because
they're there? It's not a good reason. You need to

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prune them knowing what you're doing and what you want
to accomplish. So you bought a new citrus or a
peach tree or a shade tree for your yard, and
so how are you going to prune that thing? Is
what the shape going to be like? How do we
create beautiful form and strength? And boy, with crape myrtles,
you can create a beautiful candelabra branches that is just gorgeous,

(17:52):
really pretty. Put some lighting in there, and even when
there's not a leaf or a bloom on the crape myrtle,
it is a beautiful structural tree in your landscape. So
know how to print. You can learn about that online.
There's a lot of good information online. Just kind of
be careful of the source. There's a lot of people
that don't know what they're talking about, and so you know,

(18:13):
as you as you get looking, if you can find
sources from universities, especially landgre universities across the country, places
that have the you know, the agricultural research and whatnot,
horticultural research Texas A and m Oklahoma State, LSU, New
Mexico State, Auburn where we go in Mississippi State, Florida,

(18:35):
University of Florida, Cornell that's another one. Anyway, those kinds
of places will have really good information. Proper printing information.
You can get it from any pretty much any state,
although the plants may be different. The principles of printing
are the same. Whether you're in Washington State or whether
you're in Texas, it's the same. The principles are the same.

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So anyway, think about that. It's coming up on the season,
so that'd be a good time and learn about it.
There are good books on it, like I said, but
there's also a lot of good information online. I'm going
to look back. I've got some old videos on pruning.
Maybe I can stick one of those up on our
either on Facebook or on the website. But that would

(19:16):
be good. So that's something to think about.

Speaker 8 (19:19):
You.

Speaker 3 (19:19):
How do you make the proper cuts, heading or thinning
cuts and so on. How do you structure a plant?
When you put a new plant in the ground, don't
just cut all the branches off of it and leave
one little so it looks like a fishing pole sticking
up there, just a trunk all the way up and
nothing coming out. Some people do that because they know

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those branches aren't permanent. I think about this. You got
a big, beautiful shade tree in your yard. Where how
low is the very first limb from the ground. Well,
it's probably higher than you can reach with your hands.
Because those branches, you don't want to hit your head
on them. When you walk under them, you want to
be able to mow under because they're going to come

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out and some of them are going to sag down
a little bit, and so the first branch is really high.
So when you buy that little tree, unless it's a
big tree, almost every branch it's on that tree is temporary.
It's going to go in time, and the question is
how to know how to take it off and when
to take it off and so on. Anyway, just some
things to think about. I'm just saying to go out

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there and learn it. I can't completely teach printing on
the radio in a few minutes, but it is something
that if you learn how to do it, you create
a beautiful plant. When you do have to wound the
plant with the printing cut, you create a printing cut
that heals fast. And the fastest time of wound healing
is in the spring, coming out of winter. And so

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the best time to get that printing done. If it's
just a tree or two in your yard, just wait
toward the end of winter before the new growth starts
to push out. Don't wait until the bark is full
of sap and slipping and because it tears away a
little bit too easy at that time. It is better
to do it in dormant, dormant season. It's better now.
If you've got to print a lot of trees a

(21:06):
city or harbor company someone, well, you's got to get
out there and get them done. And there's times when
you have to prune in off season that's okay. But
in general, you got a tree or two in your yard,
quid and do that. I would say maybe mid to
late January it'd be a pretty good time for most
of our listening are all right, Time for a break

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here in just a second. When we come back, we
are going to continue to talk about tips for pruning
all kinds of things in your landscape and some sources
of some information on that as well. I want to
remind you that my website gardening with Skip dot com
Gardening with skip dot com is a source for a

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lot of different kinds of information. My schedules for the
lawn are both on there. There's a publication I keep
promoting now on protecting plants from frosts and freezes, and
that includes everything from covering citrus tree. You're protecting a
very tender perennial that is going to be killed back
to the ground, but you don't want it to be

(22:11):
killed completely on how to protect that. So go check
that out on Gardening with Skip dot com Gardening with Skip.
I hope you'll bookmark that because we're from time to
time we're putting new things up there. All right, let's
take a break, don't go away, We'll be right back.
Can you see the dance right now? Can you picture?

(22:32):
It's a great show. If you've never seen that movie,
well I don't know how, but you got it out there.
I've got to see it. Go find it. Welcome back
to garden Line on today, where we're kind of celebrating
the fact that it does rain. Plants have a way
to survive without our sprinkle and drinking water on them,

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and that's a good thing. Let's uh, let's talk a
little a little bit about birds. Yesterday we were feeding
our bird feeding our bird feeder. I guess you could
say that we were filling our bird feeders. They've gotten empty,
and I had some winter super Blend from the folks
at wild Birds Unlimited. That's a good one for this season,
by the way, because it's got a lot of fat
and protein in it, and birds need that, you know,

(23:14):
as the days get shorter, they have less time to
go out and find food. Plus, once we get in
here and get some freezes and stuff too, especially, a
lot of the bugs that they'd be looking for and
enjoying are not around, and so it helps to provide
them for a little bit, you know, of extra nutrition
and a boost. And while Birds Unlimited has the best
bird mixes for seed that you're going to find anywhere,

(23:37):
they don't put the little red bebes in their stuff,
the little stuff birds kick out milow is what it's called.
They put quality things. And if you want to attract
specific kinds of birds, maybe certain kinds of finches or
cardinals or whatever you're looking for, they can point you
to the mixes that are going to do that the best.
So go to your local Wildbirds Unlimited store. That would

(23:59):
be We have a bunch of them too, by the way,
I talk about these all the time, but we've got
a store in Clerdache, there's six of them, a store
in Clearlike on El Dorado Boulevard. We've got a store
in Cypress on Barker Cypress Ors a couple of them
in the Houston area, one on bel Air Boulevard and
one on Memorial Drive. West Kingwood has one on Kingwood
Drive and each Broadway down in Paarland is another great

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wild Bird's Unlimited store. You're not going to find a
better place either for gifts. I mean everybody would appreciate
some of the cool products that they have for both
decorating and beauty indoors, for bird houses, bird feeders, for
the outdoors. Wild Birds Unlimited. You can find your story
again and more information at WBU dot com forward slash Houston.

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WBU dot com forward Slash Houston. Let's it out to
Fairfield and we're going to talk to Marty this morning.
Hello Marty, Welcome to garden Line.

Speaker 12 (24:54):
Good morning.

Speaker 8 (24:55):
I just filled my bird feeders with the winter Blends.

Speaker 3 (25:00):
Winn Good.

Speaker 8 (25:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (25:02):
I have a question.

Speaker 12 (25:03):
I am eventually in the next week or so, going
to dig up my or send out my spider lilies.
Do I treat them the same way as I did
my Amarilla's bulbs, which I am getting yours to you
this week?

Speaker 3 (25:21):
Okay? All right?

Speaker 12 (25:24):
Do I dig them up and put them in paper
bags or what over the winter?

Speaker 3 (25:32):
You could you know, if you know you're gonna replant them,
just give them somebody fresh and let them plant them.
They can go back in the ground right now if
you're going to do some digging. But if you want to,
if you want to dry them out, you can do
that too. That's fine. Just let them, let them dry
out and the root shrivel up a little bit and
they can go in there. They're a plant that though
at a very very fleshy root, and I've just taken

(25:55):
them and put them right back in the ground when
you dig them up.

Speaker 9 (25:59):
Okay, Well that's all I've done in the past.

Speaker 12 (26:02):
Yeah, well, that's all I've done in the past is
just PLoP them back.

Speaker 4 (26:06):
In my garden.

Speaker 12 (26:07):
But I just don't have a lot of room right now,
so I thought, I see what I needed to do.

Speaker 3 (26:14):
Yeah, those are good. Are these the taller ones with
the long, shaggy white blooms that you're talking about.

Speaker 12 (26:21):
Yes, yes, but this year they have like they're all
the way up, like almost four and a half feet tall,
and they've gotten so wide that there I can't mow.

Speaker 9 (26:36):
I can't mow back there, So I was going to
split them once again.

Speaker 1 (26:41):
Yeah, they're beautiful.

Speaker 3 (26:42):
There you go.

Speaker 12 (26:43):
They all right, Well, thank you, all right, I'll bring
you them along with your emeralds.

Speaker 11 (26:48):
Okay, there you go.

Speaker 3 (26:50):
We'll call it a deal. Thank you appreciate it, all right,
there you go. Yeah, dividing bulbs now, folks, you know,
we have a general rule, and you know how it
is with horticultural rules. They're horticultural suggestions. But in general,
we take bulbs at bloom in the fall, we plant
them in the spring, and bulbs at bloom in the spring,

(27:12):
and we plan them in the fall, and then bulbs
at bloom in summer. I typically will plant those and
either fall our winter kind of doesn't matter really, But
those rules are they're just rules. I mean, I mean,
they're just suggestions. And so if you mess up, you know,
you get a bulb and you plan it and it's
not quite the right time, you may lose a season
of blooming or something on it, but it's going to

(27:33):
settle in and it'll be all right. So you got
some flexibility there. Let's head out to Nukeney now and
talk to Sean this morning. Hi, Sean, welcome to garden Line.

Speaker 7 (27:45):
Good morning.

Speaker 4 (27:46):
I have a question about a live oak. My neighborhood
requires that everyone have a live oak in the front yard,
and my live oak is about twelve years old, and
it has surface roots that are heading straight for my
driveway and for my foundation, and I'm wondering about whether
I can cut those off, and if I do, will

(28:07):
to damage the tree or how do I prevent them
from continuing on and destroying the concrete.

Speaker 3 (28:15):
That's a good question. So on roots on trees, they
with sidewalks and driveways, they go underneath them, the root
gets bigger and therefore it lifts it up and cracks it.
With foundations, it's not quite working that way. It's more
they're running alongside the foundation. That foundation is too thick
and heavy for them to do the normal kind of

(28:37):
thing they do to a little sidewalk, but they dry
them out with all those roots right there pumping the
soil dry. The foundation that shrink and swell for wet
to dry is worse and therefore we get more damage
from that aspect of the roots. And so, you know,
I wish they wouldn't do these things where everybody has

(28:58):
to have a live oak tree. And sometimes I've seen
people have to plan them, you know, ten feet from
a house because the lot space is not adequate. But
if you got them, there's a couple of things you
can do. One of them is just going there occasionally
with a little trench through there and cut them. That
is a lot of work, and the bigger the tree

(29:19):
gets more stressful. That is, if it's already built a
root system and now you're cutting off half the roots.
But if you're keeping it trimmed and just not letting
roots go in that area, it's not as stressful. There's
also underground root barriers that can be put in. Just
think of it as a wall under the ground that
the roots hit it and they either have to go
sideways or straight down to go around under it and

(29:42):
not as much of a problem. Those are some options.
All of that is time and money and so not
great to do. Most people don't go to those links.
They just when needed to water a little bit extra
to keep the foundation's soil on on the modly moist side.

Speaker 4 (30:03):
Okay, all right, well thank you very much.

Speaker 3 (30:07):
Yes, now you may you may want to talk to
You can do a couple of things. You can talk
to an arborist like Affordable Tree Service Martin spoon Moore,
have him come out and take a look and see
what they can do. Or you could also talk to
a foundation specialist, Ty Strickland with Fixed my Slab. He
and I have had root foundation discussions several times and

(30:29):
he can advise as well as to what might be
able to be done. And I know that you know
they're not into tree work at Fixed my Slab, but
they understand ways to try to protect your foundation, so
you might want to visit with him as well.

Speaker 4 (30:43):
Okay, I appreciate the tip.

Speaker 3 (30:45):
All right, you bet Seohn, you take care. Roots can
be an issue. Hey, it's time for a break. Let's
take a break. We'll be right back. I know I
had to play those those Okay ten points in a
reed free garden to anybody who can tell me who's
saying that to us? Get out of the gifts all right, folks, Uh,

(31:09):
welcome back to Garden Line. We're glad to have you
with us. If you got a question and I can
assist you with it, well give me a call. Seven
one three two one two fifty eight seven four seven
one three two one two five eight seven four. The
folks at Ace Hardware have geared up for the holidays.
I mean they are ready to go. And whether you're
looking for gifts for the do it yourself or on

(31:32):
your list. Oh my gosh, they are stocked on that
stuff or just beautiful gifts for indoors in your home
or decorating outdoors on the patio and things. ACE Hardware
has got you covered. You've got to go into one
and see what I'm talking about. They're all over the place.
If you go to the website Acehardware Texas dot com,
it is Hardware Texas. Don't forget Texas. That's my group

(31:52):
of ACE Hardware stores here in Southeast Texas. Uh and
you can go there. You can find the stores nearest
to you. Stores like crosby a Up on FM twenty
one hundred northeast part of the area, Langam Creek ACE
on five twenty nine and Cyprus Single Ranch Ase on
South Mason Road and Katie. How about Fullsher Ace on

(32:12):
FM five or three point fifty nine and full Shore
or this is another one. Let's go way out of here,
Victoria Ace and Navarro Street. There there you go down
in the southwest and lots lots more at ACE Hardware
Texas dot Com. You gotta go. You gotta see what
they have. If you're looking for any kind of lighting
and things for indoors and outdoors for your decorations. Ace hardware,

(32:35):
that's the place. Heace is the place. As they say,
I am about to be putting some lights up around
our house. We try to do that every year, and
usually I try to get one of my son in
laws to do it. That is the That is the
number one way to get that kind of thing done.
But I'm probably gonna go up on a ladder myself

(32:58):
and get that done this year. But like to do
I think that's that's fun. Other decorations going out, It's
just that kind of a special year that we enjoy.
Tends to be a kind of family friends. For those
who are traveling, I hope you have safe travels too,
those of you gone home for thanksg We had a

(33:19):
number of people traveling in our family this Thanksging season.
If you are, if you're looking to do some new
things in the landscape, to change some stuff, to re
maybe redo some flower beds, or to create some flower
beds or shrub beds, or to change the lines of

(33:40):
the look of the landscape, there's a lot of ways
to really beautify and improve, whether it's your outdoor landscaping
or I like to say the indoor homescaping with house
plants and things you ought to not buy. Plants for
all seasons. They are right there where Luetta comes in
Too Highway two forty nine A Tomball Parkway, Tomball Parkway. Now,

(34:04):
this sotore's been around since early seventies, nineteen seventies, and
the folks there are experts. They know what they're doing.
So you take them a picture and just say this
is kind of boring, and you know, we've got family
coming in and say, what are what are some flowers
that would do well here? Or maybe some containers. They
have gorgeous pottery, very beautiful pottery, and you can have

(34:27):
them help you put together a mix of plants that's
gonna look really really good. Or remember this is the
best planting season of the year. Get out there, get
a shrub in the ground, get a tree in the ground.
Would you love to have trees in your yard that
ever spring they just burst forth and bloom, or even
in the summer or whatever time of year you're wanting

(34:48):
to create beauty. Go to plants for all seasons. Talk
to them about it, show them some pictures of what
you want, and they will walk you through. Put your
hands on the plants you need and walk you through
how to do it. They offer delivery services as well
as they offer container planting services. You know, if you
want them to put the container together for you, they
can do that. Plants for all seasons dot com two eight, one, three, seven,

(35:12):
six and six for six. Let's now go to Cyprus
this morning and talk to Alan. Hello, Alan, welcome to
garden Line.

Speaker 13 (35:24):
Hey, good morning. I Ho you had a good holiday.

Speaker 3 (35:27):
Thanks you any hear okay? Yes, sir okay, Yes, you
have some fruit trees.

Speaker 13 (35:38):
You were talking about pruning earlier and it's kind of
a one off from pruney. But you know, the big
red ants, not the fire ants. But you know I've
always called a harvestrants. Yeah, things that I find them
after the fact. I find them after they're getting the
buds and the leaves off the trees. Is there anything

(35:58):
you could recommend? It would be a to measure so
that I could get them before I had to go
Mount Honting.

Speaker 3 (36:05):
Yeah. Uh so what we've got is a different ants
that are being discussed. So the harvester ants are the
kinds that have those big areas where there's no vegetation
around them. But it's one hole in the middle, and
you've got these big red ants that will baite the
heck out of you. I know from growing up with them.

Speaker 14 (36:27):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (36:28):
And that's one kind of ant, the kind that is
taking leaves off the tree. That's that is a different
type of ants called it's a leaf cutter type of ant.
And those make cottonies with more than one hole, and
it's just like mounded up soiled in a wide area.
If you try to walk on it, you'd probably sink
down to your thigh. That's correct that far, but very soft.

(36:53):
Those kind are very hard to kill. And it's because
unlike other ants, we can't put a bait out there
that they take back I can eat, because what they're
doing is they're cutting leaves, they're taking them home in
the cave underground, and they're putting them, sticking them to
the ceiling, growing a fungus on them, uh, and then
eating the fungus. And so they're in the past have

(37:14):
been different approaches from fumigation of those mounds. Right now,
the only thing I know of is a concoction of
a couple of ant baits that supposedly put together will
suppress them for about six months and so you know
you can occasionally go out and do that and get
some benefits from it. In order to do that, I'm

(37:36):
not going to spill out all the details over the
air on it, but if you want to email me,
I will send you the mix with only the requests
that you tell me how it works for you, because
these are I've talked to ant researchers and they they're
not saying we can prove it works, but they're saying,

(37:56):
we have a lot of good reports on it, and so, uh,
since we don't have the good control for those kinds
of ants, I would say it would be the best
shot you got. Okay, all right, you bid, Yeah, all right,
hang on, my producer is going to give you an email,
all right. But yeah, those leafcutter ants, they are they're devastating.

(38:20):
I lived up in the Willis area for those of
you over in Conrad, Willis New Waverley, and we had
him at our peach farm. I came out one night
and one morning and two peach trees were leafless overnight. Now,
when you're trying to produce peaches and make a few dollars,
that's not a good thing. I'm not fond of them.

(38:42):
I could tell you a caddy shack story of me
versus the ants. I tried a lot of things. I
started stopped short of dynamite, but I was going to
shell shock those little boogers into next week. No, seriously,
they're hard to get get rid of. All right, well
we're going to take a little break. The music means
I gotta stop talking. The news gets to start. Are talking.
But when we come back, if you would like to

(39:02):
be first up, here is the phone number seven one
three two one two five eight seven four seven one
three two one two D seventy four.

Speaker 1 (39:18):
Welcome to Katie R. H. Garden Line with scamp Rictor.

Speaker 2 (39:22):
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watch him as who bogos gas gas many thanks to
Sup back raising great.

Speaker 5 (39:42):
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Speaker 1 (39:53):
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Speaker 2 (39:57):
The gasson gas.

Speaker 3 (39:58):
Can The morning folks, welcome back to the guard Line. Hey,
good to have you with us this morning. What do
you want to talk about today? We've got a lot
of room for different topics. I'd be a little flexible
there on the topic and time and stuff. I'm discussing
pruning tips and pruning ideas and things that getting ready

(40:20):
for printing. But we can talk about whatever you want
seven one, three, two one to well, as long as
it's it's gardening related. How about that. I'm not open
to discussing the stock market or international affairs or whatever,
but we'll talk about pruning or other horticultural topics. Discussing printing,

(40:41):
I started off talking about some couple of different types
of printing cuts, one being a heading cut, one being
a thinning cut, and the uses for those as we
do them. Talk about the importance of pruning at the winter.
If you just have a plan or two to prune
around the house, you just wait until now. It's not
like you got a month worth of work to get done.
You can do that pruning paint. Do you need the

(41:04):
paint wounds or not? The answer is absolutely not accept
accept In a couple of cases, I'll talk about those
pruning paint. Years ago, a guy named Alex Chigo tree
or boricultural researcher, a boro culture researcher. He did studies

(41:25):
of trees in the forest and how they heal wounds,
and how wounding occurs and stuff. And he basically showed
that printing paints are not recommended. They don't help healing
at all, and in fact, ken in some cases hinder healing.
If you make a big old pruning cut and it's
just you know, a branch may be pointing upward, and
now the sun is shining right down there, and you

(41:45):
put a black pruning paint on there, that eats up
a lot, and when the sun is baking down, especially
in the hot weather in the summer, it's not real hopeful.
But the other the main reason we don't is is
because the prenting paint will crack or or peel up
from the edges or something, and moisture gets behind it,
and now the paint is helping keep the inner wood

(42:06):
wet longer after a rain, so it decays faster. Instead
of the pruning paint keeping water out, which initially it
would do in time, it doesn't and then as a
result you end up with increased decay. And it's just
not the way plants close over their wounds. We use
the term healing a lot for pruning, and I understand that,

(42:29):
you know, just as a generic way of saying it. Yeah,
we don't win those wounds to heal. Technically, the wounds
don't heal. What they do is a tree compartmentalizes that
those tissues and it closes back over with callus tissues
that slowly creep across that pruning wound to close it

(42:52):
back over and close off the inner wood to the
outer elements. And it's kind of like a lava flow
moving very slowly. Fastest healing is in the spring, second
fastest is in the fall, summer, and winter not much,
not as much, especially winter. But proper printing does not
involve paint except and let me talk about the accept

(43:16):
here in our area. There's other areas in the country
where there are some other diseases that prunting paint might
help with, but not here. We have one, and that
is oak wilt. And oak wilt can attack. It can
attack the white oaks and red oaks and live oaks
specifically who but white oaks are pretty resistant to it.

(43:41):
Not as bad with white oaks. With red oaks, it
kills them in a heartbeat. With live oaks, it kills
them slowly over time. But when you make a wound,
there's a little beetle that goes and feeds on oak
wilt wounds. On another tree, and then it comes over
and it smells that wound. There are volatiles go out
from the wound that attract beetles in whether it's pine

(44:02):
beetles or the beetle that spreads oak quilt, and they
come feed on your new wound, and now it has
been infected with oak quilt, and you got a problem.
Oak will is a very difficult thing to try to manage.
So what do we do in areas where there is
oak wilt active? If you're listening to my voice, you
probably have had oakuilt in your county at one time

(44:24):
or another, and that includes Harris County in Houston, Montgomery County,
and others around here. But it's not like it's all
over the city and the city's fighting it like it
would be in Austin, for example, in the Hill country.
So for here we just don't generally to worry about
that as a problem. If you if you have oakuilt

(44:46):
in the area, you do need to paint the wounds,
and you need to paint them immediately. And why am
I going into it if most of the listening area
doesn't have it? Well here here here's why. If you
have property in an area where oak wilt is present.
You need to know about this. And if you bring
firewood back from areas where oak will is present, fresh

(45:07):
uncured firewood, you know they chop the things down. You
bring all that fresh stuff back and you put it
at the house. For number one, I wouldn't do that
from an area where they have oak wood, but if
they do, you can cover it with a clear cover,
a clear sheet of plastic all the way to the ground,
secured to the ground, not blowing off and flapping up.
And any beetle or something that would try to crawl

(45:29):
out of there, they go up and they see the sunlight.
That's why clear plastic. You don't want them to crawl
down and look for a little light at the bottom
of a dark tarp to crawl out. But they are
captured inside there and avoid that kind of spread if
that were if you had to bring it back fresh farwood.
But anyway, in those areas you prune. Let me put

(45:52):
it this way. This is this visual I think explains
what I'm trying to say. You prune with us all
in one hand. In pruning, paint in the other, meaning
you cut off the branch, you paint it, You cut
off another branch. You paint it, and I'm that over
the top detailed about it, because if you prune and

(46:13):
then the phone rings and you go inside and then
you remember, oh, I got to get me a sandwich
and eat, and then oh I got to go pick
up the kids from whatever practice, and the moon sits
open for a few hours, there's the possibility that a
beatle could come in during that time, So why not
just paint it when you print it. That's the most
sure way. They also prune at the coldest and hottest

(46:35):
months of the year in those areas because the beatle
activity is less. I have my oldest lives over in
Dripping Springs area, and when you drive into the neighborhood,
there's a sign telling you here's the month that you
that you're going to be doing your pruning. To avoid
spreading it because it's a problem there. Okay, so just

(46:55):
remember that if you're going to go about it. Those
are some tips for you. But in gen printing paints
not needed. I know I went into a lot of detail,
but you know, sometimes accurate information doesn't come in just
sound bites. There's always a yeah, but there's always a
well that depends and so try to give you a
little bit of those as well, not just the how to,

(47:19):
but also the why why do we do things a
certain way? When you understand that, you're more likely to
make good decisions. Warren Southern Gardens and Kingwood Garden Center
two awesome garden centers out there in Kingwood. Warren is
on North Park Drive North Park Drive and Kingwood Garden
Center is on Stone Hollow Drive. Now, both of those

(47:40):
are open seven days week want to remind you that
Warren's is going to be closed next weekend for doing
their annual inventory that they do. I think that well.
Kingwood also next weekend, but that's not this weekend, and
it's not this week. So you got this week to
get out there to get you your your wonderful Christmas trees. Gosh,

(48:06):
they have an excellent supply out there. They have a beautiful,
really a beautiful selection of poinsettas and other kinds of
holiday plants. So I encourage you to get out there
and get that done. Uh that'll be uh anytime this week.
They have some nice wreaths as well, so going out
there and get a good, good cool season color too.

(48:28):
I was looking at some of the cool season color
that they've gotten in. Uh, it's just beautiful. So hey,
if you want your place to look good for the
holidays coming up, why I put out some pansies, some alyssums,
some dianthus, one of my dianths, one of my favorite
cool season flowers. Uh, and other cool season of flowers
from Warren's or from Kingwill Garden Center. You can do

(48:48):
that now. Let's see my phone number if you'd like
to give me call seven one three two one two
five eight seven four seven one three two two fifty
eight seventy four. Feel free to give me a call.
We're going to go back out to the phones here
this morning and talk to Maureen out in Lakeside of
the States. Hey, Maureene, welcome to garden Line.

Speaker 9 (49:10):
Thank you.

Speaker 15 (49:12):
I sort of was listening about certain times that things
need to be done with your trimming and pruning, et cetera.
And it's getting unbearable walking out my door. First I
thought I was being attacked with the multiple egcorns.

Speaker 4 (49:29):
And I mean.

Speaker 9 (49:32):
Just really somebody raiding the house.

Speaker 3 (49:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 9 (49:35):
Even my neighbors across the street say we can hear
it hitting some of the vehicles. So I have tried
to start breaking. But I mean I cannot walk outside barefoot,
which I used to do, but right now it's impossible.
So is this something I can attack, you know, like
an hour and then give myself a couple of days off.

Speaker 15 (49:57):
These acorns are so fresh, they're not going to start
blooming or making a little oak trees, are they for
a while?

Speaker 9 (50:05):
So I can get them off my lawn.

Speaker 3 (50:09):
Acorns will lay on the ground in the winter time
it's cool, it tends to be a little wet as well,
a little moister that the heat isn't drying up everything.
And they will actually send a root out into the
ground to get to get rooted at the end of
the cool season and get started. So it's better to

(50:29):
pick them up. I mean you don't have to pick
them up the week they fall or anything, but just
sometime in the next in the next month or two.
Try to get as many of them as you can.
I've tried different things. It depends on the acorns, you know,
burrowak acorns or the size of a golf ball, whereas
live oak acorns are a little bitty things like you're
in the last joint of your little finger. And for

(50:52):
me that I use a shot back type thing in
some areas where you break them up. I've also used
a a blower, a blower depending on the kind of
graphs you have and the size of acorns and stuff.
I have those cypress balls that fall off cypress trees,
and the day I just got a real good strong
blower on full force, and I was just blowing them

(51:14):
across the yard and then rake them up all together
a little bit, and then blow some more across the yard.
It's tedious, But tell you you twist an ankle on
some of these acorns.

Speaker 15 (51:25):
Yes, yes, Well I just thought, you know, you might
have some other methods rather than just the rake, and
that's what I started first.

Speaker 9 (51:33):
So all right, you're giving me a couple of good ideas.
And I do have a blower, and I do have
one of the vacuums, so I'm going to give it
a good try. So now when we're putting mind go ahead.

Speaker 3 (51:47):
I was going to say we ought to be able
to bribe squirrels into doing it for us. You know,
if they will bring us, you know one a one
gallon bucket full of acorns, will give them I don't
know what skills want, you know, give them something they want.
I don't know if that'll w.

Speaker 9 (52:01):
Absolutely no, but it sounds cute. It sounds cute. Okay,
I'll continue listening. And when can I stop.

Speaker 8 (52:09):
Watering my lawn?

Speaker 3 (52:13):
Well, basically, if you look at if you look at
my schedule that I have out there line, when you
look at the lawn management schedule, what it has on it,
It's got a blue row that goes across of it.
Across it, it says watering, and it lists that historic
average inches of irrigation per week when it hadn't rained. Okay,

(52:38):
and so we're in November now and it it well,
we're at the end of november's a half inch a week,
and then when we go into December, January, and February,
it's zero. Historically, you should never have to water a
lawn in December, January and February. But if we went
into another drought, and especially if we had some warmer
temperatures and things, there's a if you just plan it

(53:01):
a lot and you're trying to kind of keep it moist,
you could make a case for it. But in general,
we turned the water off for those three months.

Speaker 16 (53:11):
Sounds like a plan. I don't want to overwater.

Speaker 9 (53:13):
But I certainly don't want to not get what it needs.

Speaker 11 (53:17):
So that sounds good.

Speaker 3 (53:18):
Yeah, it should be fun good.

Speaker 9 (53:23):
I'll thank you bye bye, all.

Speaker 3 (53:26):
Right, alrighty yep, And that's on the schedule too. I
don't talk about the watering thing on it much, but
it's on there. There's a lot of stuff on there.
In fact, when I first made it, one of the
first reactions is that's too much information. Well, I mean,
you know, I'll come in on that in a minute.
Let's take a little break and I'll be right back.

(53:46):
All right, Welcome back to guard Line on and off
and on rainy period for a couple of days. Here,
we're just gonna celebrate that rain is a good things.
A song about that. Let's head out now to Houston
and talk this morning to Harley. Hello, Harley, welcome to

(54:07):
garden Line.

Speaker 8 (54:09):
Well, there wasn't what I was respecting this morning. I'm trying.
I'm trying to get a score from last night one
of the college games, and I can't get it. He
was played so late. I never did get to score
last night.

Speaker 3 (54:25):
Which game are you looking for?

Speaker 8 (54:29):
It was a Notre Dame Stanford they played at nine
thirty last night.

Speaker 3 (54:35):
Huh yeah, well yeah, I can promise you this Notre
Dame one. Well, all right, Harley, Harley on the guard line,
Well on the guard line. You never know what kind
of music could play, You never know what kind of
question we're going to get. And I'm going to give
you a football score just to make you happy this morning.

(54:58):
Notre Dame forty nine, Stanford one.

Speaker 8 (55:02):
Okay, okay, forty nine or twenty.

Speaker 3 (55:06):
Forty nine or twenty that's right, Yeah, thank you, thank.

Speaker 8 (55:09):
You very much. Garden line.

Speaker 3 (55:12):
Okay, go play something and call me back about it.
Bye bye. I don't know. I don't know, but I
like that.

Speaker 8 (55:24):
I like that.

Speaker 3 (55:26):
That's a first for me. That's good. Oh my gosh. Hey,
when we move into the cool season, critters want to
go up in your attic and live there because it's
nice and warm, and you play them Christmas music and
all kinds of other things. Well, why don't we stop that,
called pest bros. They'll come out, they'll take a look.
They'll find out where mice are getting in, where rats

(55:48):
get in, and even the big things, the squirrels and
the who knows what possum or raccoon or something. I've
heard of those bouncing through the attic. The folks at
pest Bros are professionals and they know how to find
these spots, They know how to shut them down. They
know how to get those credits off your property that
are that are bugging you.

Speaker 8 (56:05):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (56:06):
D Pestbros dot com dpep b r o s dot
com two eight one two o six forty six seventy.
While you're talking to them, you might investigate ask some
questions about termite treatments coming up. That is always good.
I have very excellent ways of going about it, ways
that are safe that last about ten years out. And

(56:27):
then if you've you've got some credits running loose inside
and I might scare away the family during the holidays, well, uh,
you might want to call them, have them come out
and shut down the cucarachas or anything else crawling around
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listening to guardenline and who knows what's going to happen
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whatever way we can. We're talking about pruning today though, pruning.
I'm sorry that that is so cracks me up. When
when we're doing the printing, we want to use tools

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that are high quality tools. So let's talk about printing
tools just a little bit. Uh, printing tools, quality saws.
A pruning saw typically is going to cut on the
pull stroke, so the teeth are kind of like curved
backwards toward you. Uh, And so when you push it,
it's not cutting those it's the teeth are sliding over

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the wood and then as you pull it back, they're
ripping out the section of wood. That's how pruning saw.
Most pruning sauce typically work, and they work best that way.
A good sharp prunting saw can do a great job.
You can do handheld printing saws. You can do the
ones on poles. I have one on a pole with
an extension so I can get way up in the
tree and do that. Uh. There is like any tool,

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from a mechanics tool for fixing your car engine to
horticultural tools to you name it. There's good tools and
there's junk. There's quality tools and there's cheap tools. Cheap
tools are not inexpensive.

Speaker 8 (58:16):
Let me.

Speaker 3 (58:17):
Think about that a minute. Cheap tools are not inexpensive.
I bet some of you could admit to this, but
you probably have thrown away enough cheap hand prunters to
fill a five gallon bucket over your lifetime because they
work for a while, but they don't work well and
the next thing you know, it's more strain on your hands.
You know, as you get older, the joints and things

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take a toll. They don't cut as well, the blades
spring out, they don't hold an edge as well. The
metal is not as hardened and high quality. But a
quality pair of prunters they will hold an edge and
they will last, and you can sharpen them. Some types.
You can replace the blades on. That is very important,

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being able to replace those blades and you take care
of them, don't lose them in the fire bed, and
you're going to end up with something that lasts a
long time. And that is the most inexpensive way to
buy a printer is to buy a quality printer, pay
more for it upfront, take care of it, keep it oil,
and it will do you a great job. Hand printers
are good the loppers for cutting off larger limbs and

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then the sauce as well, good quality sharp things. Take
care of that metal. It will rust, it will pit
sometimes in certain kinds of things that will corrode. But
take good care of your printers and you can do
a good printing job. And I'm gonna talk a little
bit about techniques for using printers when we come back
after this break for the news. Welcome back time, Welcome

(59:46):
back to garden Line. I got to make sure the
buttons are putting. Welcome back to guarden Line. If you've
got a question about plants, give me a call seven
one three, two one two five eight seven four. If
you need a sports or a cure for cradle cap
for your grandkids, you can come me on that too.
Apparently we answer all the questions here on garden Lite.

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Oh my goodness. So pruning. We're talking about prunting, talking
about quality tools. That is very very important. You want
to get tools that will do the job right and
make it easier in your hands and last and not
cost you so much in the long run by having
to replace them over and over again. When you're doing
a printing cut, there is a certain spot where you

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want to make that printing cut, and it is important
that you make the prunting cut at the proper location
in order to have the best results of fast healing
and best results to the tree. Okay, so take your hand.
I use your hand. This is radio so I have
to you know, we have to have visuals here. Take

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your hand. Hold it up like you're raising your hand
in class, except have your thumb go out to the
side a little bit. Your hand is a branch. Your
thumb is the side branch coming off of it, or
your hand's the trunk. Your thumb is the limb coming
off the side. As you go down your thumb toward
your hand, all of a sudden it starts to spread out,

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to flare out where it attaches right Your thumb has
a certain thickness to it, but right about that knuckle,
right before your hand, it flares out. The printing cut
on a branch should be made right there. Look at
the diameter of the branch.

Speaker 8 (01:01:30):
And is not.

Speaker 3 (01:01:31):
You know, just you want to make it at that cut.
You if you were to cut it off like where
you're into your thumb, is you have a stub in
that stubble? Diet won't heal, and now you've got a
dead piece of wood. In the middle of that wound,
and the plant can't close over the wound, and so
now you've got an entry for a decay to get
into the branch. It's not stubs typically don't heal. If

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you were to go all the way back I hope
this is helpful. If you were to go all the
way back down your thumb toward your hand and cut
it off right at your hand, look at the size
of the wound that would make as opposed to the
size if you cut it off right at that knuckle. Okay,
so I make con sense. So that bigger wound. Two things.

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Number one, you have more real estate for that callous
to have to cross over to close the wound, so
that takes longer. And the tissues that are best for
healing a wound are right there where that thumb starts
to get where the flare begins as it goes into
your hand. So if you cut off all those tissues,

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the tissues you're left with are not going to be
as good at healing. And the wound is bigger, so
you don't leave stubs, and you don't cut flush against
the trunk. Having said that, there's a lot of different
kinds of trees out there, and some of them, the
way the branch comes in the attachment is a little
bit different than that, and so you're looking at it going, Okay,

(01:03:00):
I skip said that thing about my thumb in my hand.
I get that, but that's not what this branch looks like.
There are exceptions, and you have to you just have
to kind of work with that. But in general, if
you will just quit leaving stubs, you'll be ahead of
most people. And if you'll quit flush cutting, meaning I'm
gonna go all the way against that thing and make
a bigger If going further in makes a bigger wound,

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you're going too far. Okay, so avoid that, make that cut.
That's as simple as I can explain it on the radio.
A good quality professional arbist knows what they're doing. They're
gonna be able to get out there and do the
proper pins of pruning cuts. But just because someone owns
a chain saw does not make them an arborist. That's important.
A friend of mine I used to when I was

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in college, we did some pruning. We kind of knew
what we were doing, but I guess we're students. But anyway,
we went out and we would do some pruning. And
my friend told me that we should call ourselves the
two jerks on a chainsaw tree service. And there are
a lot of two jerks on a chainsaw tree services
out there there. I have a pickup, I have a
chainsawed Therefore, let me at your trees. No no, no,

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no no. When you damage a tree with improper pruning,
it may be ir irreparable. It may be that for
the life of that tree it is going to be
marred and ugly. It may be for the life of
that tree you're going to get some weakening due to
internal decay and a lot of things. Trees are valuable.

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They should last decades and decades and decade. Your grandkids
should be able if they inherited the house, to be
able to enjoy those trees. Take care of them from
the beginning. Don't let anybody near them that don't know
what they're doing. And if you do the work, learn
how to do it so you do it right anyway.
That's how you make a proper cut. All right, there's
one thing. So we're going to talk about some more
pruning tips here in a little bit. As we come through.

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Nelson plant Food has a product that you need to
have on your shelves if you're going to do some
ball planting or planting anytime of the year, and that
is Neutralstar Genesis transplant mix nutri Shar Genesis is a blend.
It's a first blend that Nelson's has come up with
retail for that has incorporated in it Mike Horizon bacteria

(01:05:11):
and the fungi in general that are going to be
helpful for that soul microbiome and helpful for the plant.
It's got the nutrients in it, of course, but you
can put down in the whole stock on burn roots,
safety youth. Just think of it as this. This is
a fertilizer that you use to enhance the soil before

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you plant. So you dig a hole, you mix some
Nelson Genesis with the soil that's in the hole or
the soil that's going to go back into the hole
around the plant that you plant. Both of those are good,
and then you plant and as the roots come out
they can hit the ground run it. There is absolutely
everything that they need to get boosted and going. Well.

(01:05:53):
Now I'm about to be starting. In fact, I already
have started some transplants for the garden and in about
the time we get around a little after Christmas, maybe
I'll start my tomato transplants indoors, and when they go
from the first little container therein up to a bumping

(01:06:15):
them up, let's say, to a four inch pot or
a six inch I'll even go all the way to
gallum pots with them before they go outside. I get
an early start so I can have tomatoes that have
blooms on them for they're planted. But or maybe you
buy some transplants from the store. They're small inch granny
and put out there too early to be planting tomatoes.
We'll bring them home. Get you some Nutra Star Genesis

(01:06:36):
transplant mix. Get a little bit larger pot, maybe a
four inch pot or something. Mix that into the soil
and put those tomato transplants or pepper transplants or eggplants
whatever you're gonna be planting next spring. Put them in
there and just keep them going, and you will have
the best transplant you can put in the ground. That's
what I'm talking about. Plant a rose bush, put it
in the whole mix it in. Planting a tree. Nutri

(01:06:58):
Star Genesis transplant from the folks at Nelson. This Nelson
plant food Nelson's our family that has been around the
Katie area since the late eighteen hundreds. Uh, and all
the fertilizers are made right there. You just go out
to uh. Nelson plant food are better than that, since
they're not set up for retail out there. Go to
your local store, you know, hardware stores like Ace they

(01:07:21):
carrying Nelson plant food. You you'll find them at a
garden centers, home stores like that. Southwest Fertilizer absolutely, of
course they have them as well. Feed stores many of
those carrying the Nelson products. Nelson Genesis comes in a
jar in the retail sale. Typically you're seeing a little jar.
Main thing is it works. Let's take a little break

(01:07:41):
here and we'll be right back. All right, here we go.
Welcome back to Guardline, getting you with us this morning.
If you got a question, goel free to give me
a call. Seven one, three fifty eight seventy four. We
got open lines right now, so it'd be easy time
to get through. I love going to Buchanan's Native Plants

(01:08:03):
because number one, the plant selection is incredible there and seasonally,
whatever's happening, they have got it there now. It says
in the title or the name of the company buckin
as native plants, and it's because nobody has a bigger
selection natives, and Buchannans does in this whole region. But
don't think that the place is just native plants. Navy

(01:08:25):
plants are actually the minority of the plants that are
in there. It's the biggest selection of natives. And yet
still that's some minority of the plants that are in there.
Lots of cool stuff right now. They are loaded up
on Christmas trees, by the way, and points set is
look absolutely stunning. If you love forced bulbs like the
amarillas and the paper wife, they've got all those there
for you to do that. It's just a it's a

(01:08:47):
cool thing. House plants, right, we're in house plants season now.
It's cool and off and our gardening moves a little
bit indoors. One of the best houseplant greenhouse selections. You're
gonna find succulents, if you like strings off, if you
like whatever tropical foliage you know, like I like aglianimas,
we'll go to Buchanan generals. These six kinds of agimas there,

(01:09:08):
you know, or pathos or or a philodendron or obscure
things that you kind of walk in and go. I
don't even know what that is, but I like it.
That's Buchanans. Don't forget Holiday open House. Holiday open House
is on Saturday, December sixth. That's this coming Saturday, six
days from now. At by the way, Buchanans is on

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Eleventh Street in the Heights, Saturday, December sixth, from ten
am to three pm, five hours of stuff going on.
You really need to get by there. There's going to
be crafts, stuff of the kids, music, hot coco, lots
of things going on. They always put on a shindig
at Buchanans. You need to get by there and check
this one out Saturday next Saturday. It's free, by the way.

(01:09:52):
Come on, What else can I do to make you
want to go check this out? If you've never been,
I don't care where you live. You need to swing
by there and leave them in your car because you
are going to find some stuff you cannot live without.
That it's the kind of place you can it is.
You're listening to Garden line seven one three two two
fifty eight seventy four. We're talking about pruning today during

(01:10:15):
the quiet times. I like, actually I like this time
of the year, things get a little quieter because it
gives me a chance to kind of go in depth
into some of the topics that I just don't have
time for during the rest of the year. So we
were talking about quality pruning tools, the importance of those,
also the importance of keeping your pruning tools sharp. Good

(01:10:39):
sharp pruning tools are the least wear and tear, whether
it's your hand joints from ham pruners or your elbows
and shoulders from lapper pruners. Quality sharp pruning tools get
the job done. Now there are when it comes to
ham pruners and even lappers, there's there's two kinds of arrangements.

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One of them is the I don't care for, and
that's the envil type. So you know, the two things
that are coming together. There is a flat surface and
then a blade that comes straight down onto that flass
flat surface, essentially pinching off the branch like that. I
find that they can work well, but they also you

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get a little bit more crushing of the the envil surface.
It tends to kind of crush the bark right there
and it dies back just to tiny. But I just
don't care for that kind of prunter The other kind
is called a bypass pruner. It works more like a
pair of scissors, where you have the two blades that cut.
Unlike scissors, though on a bypass pruner, it's not that

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they're being cut from both sides, being cut by one
blade and the other one is just kind of holding
it in place while that blades lines passed. So think
of scissors. That's what a bypassed pruner is. Like a
good sharp one, they do very well. Now, when you're pruning,
one thing you don't want to happen is strip the

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bark on the on the plant. And sometimes when you
cut a branch, the branch falls and as it falls,
the weight of that branch grabs a bark and it
strips off, slipping downward. That's especially bad when you wait
too long to prune. You get out of the of

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the dormance season. Now the bark is slipping and it
just peels off like banana, peel off of banana. And
you don't want that because that you know how I
was talking earlier about a stub and then cutting too close,
but cutting at the right spot being important because of
the healing tissues that are right there. When you strip
down the branch and you got this strip of bark missing.

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There is very little healing. They go sideways to close
that back over. It is very slow. It's just not
Those tissues aren't designed for that. And so you want
to so don't let the barton start. Don't wait until
spring when new growth is pushing. Can you prune at
that time and get by with it? Yes, if you're

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extra extra extra careful, but is not advised go into
it in the dormant season. Make it easier in yourself
and do it right. And then when you use the
bypass prunters, if you put the blade that's going to
cut up in the V shaped angle where the branch
attaches to another branch or to the trunk, and cut downward,

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there's more of a likelihood of it stripping out or
not cutting as well. That for me, what I'll do
is turn it upside down and I'll put the part
that is kind of holding the branch up in the
V and I'll cut upward. And I realize, if this
is a horizontal branch upward and downward, but let's just
say I'll cut toward the direction the branch is going,

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rather than back toward where it attaches to the trunk
or to the branch. I find those make a nice
cleaner cut. You can also direct that blade better because
the blades tychpically are larger, and if you put them
in the V and try to cut at the right angle, uh,
that you're not going to be as successful. One thing

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I should have said well ago when I was talking
about not leaving stubs and not making flush cuts is
when you make that cut, it should be perpendicular to
the branch. Okay, not perpendicular to the trunk necessarily, the
perpendicular primarily to the branch. Maybe a little bit slat,
but not much. All right, there's a lot of tips

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on printing. I don't know. We may keep talking about that,
or we may talk about what you're interested in when
we come back. Just appreciate you listening this morning. Hope
you're enjoying it. If you would like to call during
this break and be first up seven one three two
one two five eight seven four seven one three two
one two fifty eight seventy four. I hope you had
a great Thanksgiving, by the way, and uh, I hope

(01:14:56):
this is a good week for you. I'm going to
be sitting inside enjoying the rain while I do some
printing and re potting. I won't talk about that. Also,
we'll come back here. Let's see eight o'clock. Got tomorrows
a garden line this morning. Lent me a time, We'll
be right back.

Speaker 1 (01:15:15):
Welcome to Casey r H. Garden Line with Skip Richard.

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Welcome back to the garden line. I'm your host, Skip Rictor,
and we're here to talk gardening, any kind of gardening.
You won't talk about it. We also give out football scores,
by the way, if you need that. By the way,
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one three two one two fifty eight seventy four. May
be folks down at enchanted gardens or chanted forests, excuse me,
both of those places just outstanding selectional plans. Those of
you who lived down in the Richmond Rosenberg, you were
overloaded there. I mean that is amazing. And you just
drive up street a little bit and sugar Landery. You've

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got south of Fertilizer too. I mean it's good night.
You talk about a place to get everything. Uh, I
was looking at an enchanted forest. They're some of their
offerings that they have right now. And of course Christmas
trees beautiful, beautiful, beautiful Christmas trees looks place looks this great.

Speaker 9 (01:16:48):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (01:16:49):
The both yesterday and today, Santa is out there for pictures, okay,
and those photos are just a great opportunity. You're going
to get the opportunity to reach out, get your kids
a picture taken. I don't know if you can bring
your pets for that or not. That'd be that would
be a good question. I guess if they behave themselves

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and sit with you on Santa's lap, that will work out.
But they're gonna have Sana there, They're gonna have the
Grinch there. And that is that they did it yesterday,
they're doing it today as well. From ten am when
I quit talking on garden line, Santa starts taking pictures
over at enchanted forests and it goes to two pm
on both days. So stop by, see Santa, see the Grinch.

(01:17:32):
But main reason you're gonna stop by is because of
the awesome wreaths and Christmas trees and so many types
of beautiful points set is that they have for those
of you who are like, yeah, yeah, flowers whatever. I'm
a vegetable gardener. Okay, pick up your vegetable tomato transt
or transplants. Excuse me, onion transplants, the bundles of onions.

(01:17:52):
They have many varieties to choose from. Pick up transplants
of herbs and cool seasoned vegetables. They also are stocked
up on everything from lettuce to broccoli to you name it.
They've got you covered there, cool season color. And stop
into the gift shop, beautiful gift shop. I always love
going in there. I always always swing over to the
area too where they got the house plants, because they

(01:18:14):
got some cool, unusual, very healthy, very attractive plants that
are ready to go. These aren't afterthought. These are prime
quality plants that they carry their at Enchanted Forest. When
you go online, go to Enchanted Forest Richmond, TX dot

(01:18:34):
com and you can find out all about it, hours
of operation, phone numbers, how to get there, all that
kind of thing. Enchanted Forest, Richmond, you know, just go,
just go do it and today kick the kids. How
about on a web take the kids and get out
there from tend to to. They're going to have Santa
and the Grinch both there. The Grinch, you're a mean one,

(01:19:00):
it's true grunge. You notice I never played bumper music
with me singing. That's because I care about my listeners,
that's for sure. Pruning. We're on a topic of pruning today.
I want to continue on that topic. We're talking about
different kinds of pruning tools, different types of prunters, the

(01:19:21):
proper way to use prunters, and the importance of keeping
them sharp and everything like that. Whenever you are printing
a branch and you're getting sucker sprouts from that pruning,
and some you know, if it's a peach tree or
something like that, you're going to get a shoot that occurs.
If it's the bigger the branch, the more sucker shoots

(01:19:41):
you got come out from it. Actually, like water sprouts
is another term for those up on the branches. You
just bring those back and they'll be fine. But some
plants are just determined to not quit doing that. Vitex,
the blue blooming spiky flowers of su Vitext, is horrible

(01:20:01):
about re sprouting from cut in. You had several branches
that come out or shovel shoots that come out wherever
you print cry mertles at the bottom. If ever knows
cream mertles have all those suckers coming out of the
bottom and you cut them off and more come out.
There are products that are basically hormone based plant hormone
based that you spray on those cuts or spray on
the base of the branches, and they it stops that.

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I have a vitext that I have major prine this year,
and I mean it would be a thicket if I
hadn't stayed on it. But what I used is a product.
I think the one I used is called Suckers Stopper.
There are other brands maybe that have different names, but
basically it's a hormone you spray on and something in
the name of the product is going to tell you
this stop suckers from coming up on the tree. And

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so whenever I I'm back, they'll like just the other day,
there were three little sprouts at the base coming back
out of my vtext, but compared to like twenty that
I and you started with months ago. So just rub
them off and spray the sucker stopper on there, and
it's awesome. I mean, they I don't mean forever you
never get another one. I'm just saying it really manages that.

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So if you're dealing with that on krape myrtles or
on Vitex, which seem to be the two worst about it,
or any branch, you can spray that sucker stopper on
there and that works pretty good. So make your job
easier with that. Just one other pruning tip that I
would offer you. ACE hardware stores are going to be
the place where you find the products that I'm talking

(01:21:36):
about here on garden line. You know fertilizers, name brand fertilizers,
products to control pest, weeds and diseases, whatever you're dealing with.
If you've got scale on your plants right now, it's
time to put out something systemic. Go in that plant
and kill the scale. You can do that now, you
can do that later in the spring. It moves a
little faster into the plant in the spring than it

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does now, But that is an option, and ACE has
got you covered. Maybe you need a dormant oil spray.
Which when do you spray dormant oil. That's a question
that has the answer already in it. You spread it
in the dormant season. If you spray a heavy viscous oil.
In the growing season, you can burn plant tissues. But

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in the dormant season, it's good. You got to coat
the oil with excuse me, you got to coat the
scale with the oil in order to kill them. Oil
is not a poison. Oil gets over the little breathing
openings on scale and it plugs them up, and the
scale can't get oxygen and it dies. And so that's
how oil works. So if you spray ninety percent of

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the scale on a branch and miss ten percent, that
ten percent will set out babies and you'll be right
back where you were before. You got to get it all.
You've got to have complete coverage of all sides of
ever branch, nooks and crannies. That's afe to go about
it for that, but it's the time to get that
kind of thing done as well. So ACE Hardware Stores
got you covered on those kind of products. Ace Hardware

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Stores has got one of the best gifts selections for
pretty much everybody on the list. You know, I was
in an ACE store. Remember all ACE stores are independently owned,
so each owner can have this or that or the
other as an add on to all the standard stuff
that's in every Ace you know, the standard a stuff

(01:23:22):
that's everywhere. But like we were in one I think
it was Branna Mace and uh anyway, one of them
that a Kendra Scott jewelry section in Ace Hardware store.
Now I've got daughters and a wife, and I'm telling
you I know how to say Kendra Scott. How important
that is. They had a section like that in there.

(01:23:43):
I've seen Ace harder stores that you go in and
buy a beautiful cutting board and have them etch it
or you know, burn into it or something to make
it personalized. Ace Hardware stores that have all kinds of
indoor you know, like the farmhouse decorations for your home side.
I know it's a hardware store. Who thought they would
have that? They do. You just go to your local

(01:24:05):
Ace Hardware store and here's how you find them. Ace
Hardware Texas dot Com. Acehardware Texas dot Com. Go in there,
do your holiday decoration shopping first at your Ace Hardware store.
Ace Hardware Texas dot Com. Find the store near you.
If you're up in Porter, there's j and Ours excellent
ACE Hardware store up in Porter on FM thirteen fourteen.

(01:24:27):
Makes it really easy up or down in Alvin Southeast.
I guess you'd say down. There's Petcawas on West Willis
Street down in Alvin if you are out at Single Ranchers,
the Ace Hardware on South Mason Road, and Katie by
the way, there's also a Katie Hardware on Pinoak Road

(01:24:48):
in Old Town Katie. I like the Plantation Ace down Northwest.
Love going down there to that store that is in
the Richmond Rosenberg area on Mason Road, Plantation Ace. And
then down in Wharton Wharton Feed and Ace. Well, you
guys are fortunate when they redid that and made it
a nice Ace and Feed store. Uh not about a
year ago. I guess time flies on me, so it

(01:25:10):
may have been longer. But anyway, Wharton Feed and Ace
on North Richmond Road excellent Ace Hardware. But there's a
lot more Ace Hardware Texas dot Com.

Speaker 8 (01:25:18):
Just go there.

Speaker 3 (01:25:20):
I'm telling you you're gonna find gifts for everybody, and
you're gonna find cool decorations, and you're gonna find all
the things you would normally want to find in a
hardware store. You are listening to garden Line and I'm
gonna take a little break here it's time for that,
and we will be right back. If you'd like to
give me a call seven one three two one two

(01:25:41):
five eight seven four. Make me Susan.

Speaker 8 (01:25:45):
Enjoy.

Speaker 3 (01:25:46):
I want to give the bottomus for grasmus.

Speaker 8 (01:25:50):
I don't think.

Speaker 3 (01:25:53):
Okay, yep, you won't. That'd be a hard one to wrap.
All right, Welcome back to garden Line. I never know
what's going to happen on the airs when garden Line
tell if you got a question about plants or planting gardening,
feel free to give me a call seven one three
two one two five eight seven four, and I shall
continue talking about printing tips and printing concepts and other

(01:26:16):
things that will help you have success. I mentioned that
earlier on I talked about two kinds of printing cuts.
One was a thinning cut, which is where you readdirect
the traffic going down the branch off to a side branch.
The other was a heading cut, where you just chop
a branch off. And the heading cut will be like

(01:26:38):
cutting off the end of a room stick. You know,
you just cut it off. And now what's going to happen.
You're gonna a whole bunch of shoots that are going
to come out as a response to the removal of
those apical buds that were dominant. So when do you
be use heading cuts, Well, one time we use them
is in hedge trimming. When you want things to be
thicker and denser, you use a heading cut. And heading

(01:27:01):
cut is what happens when you have those head shears,
you know, the lopper shears that are not the shears
that are just chopping the top of a head to
big scissors, or if you're using one of those automatic
power operated hedge tremors that have the little blades sliding
past each other on both sides, that is just randomly

(01:27:22):
cutting branches off, cutting them off everywhere, and everywhere you
make a cut where that one branch was cut off,
you're going to get two or three branches that grow,
and so now it gets density, it gets more compactness.
So when you have a plant that is getting too
big for its area, you can cut back and you
can do hedging to bring it back. Maybe you've got

(01:27:44):
a lagustrum or a red tip of tinea, or even
in a Texas age niso, any kind of a shrub
and he's gotten big and now at the bottom there's
no leaves and it's just beare and you got this
umbrella like top of leaves and it's up at the
roof or up in the window or something. You can
cut that shrub back very far, however far you need to.

(01:28:07):
Let's say you had a shrub that was seven feet
tall and you wanted it to be a shrub that's
four feet tall. You could cut it back all the
way to three feet or two and a half, and
then as it re sprouts, you shear it, and those
few sprots that mountain now become more and then you
shear it again, and you sheared again, and we started

(01:28:27):
lower than you wanted the shrub to be, because it's
going to grow, and you're going to have a few
steps moving upward toward that three feet as you're continuing
to share. Now you have a three foot shrub that
looks nice, and you can keep it at that level.
That's possible to do. So it's a drastic move. We
don't want to do that kind of move, but if
you've got one that's ever grown, that is what you

(01:28:49):
can do to bring it back. Most shrubs can take
that kind of ruining. Most shrubs, Now, if it's drought stressed,
if it's weakened for whatever, and just certain species that
are wems want to die drop of a hat. Well
maybe not, but in general that is a good way
to go about it. So I would encourage you to
consider that if you're trying to rejuvenate a shrub, heading

(01:29:11):
cuts are important, not thenning cuts. Heading cuts are important
to do that. Earlier were actually first call of the day.
We're trying to be about some salvia that she was
growing and or wanting to grow too, and how to
manage them, and we were talking about sharing them back.
We have plants that bloom on terminals, meaning the ends

(01:29:33):
of shoots. Roses bloom on terminals, the ends of shoot.
Even if it's a climbing rose and you got this
long arching cane and there's blooms all up and down it,
those blooms are coming off little, basically little shoots there
at the base. So that roses is one Salvia blooms
at the ends of shoots. Many other thrialis the yellow

(01:29:55):
blooming plant. It's a perennial slash shrub. It bloom at
the end of shoots. Every time you prune those, you
get more shoots, you get more blooms. So you can
manage them that way. For the subshrubs, and Salvia greggy
I is a subshrub, so it's not a perennial that
dies back to the ground every year. It has woody

(01:30:16):
growth above ground, but it doesn't it doesn't grow like
a normal big woody shrub, but it has that that
woody nature to it. You would share that back. I
would share my Salvio greggy eyes back by about half,
maybe even a little more in the winter time, depending
on how big you want them to be and how

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big the particular one you're we're talking about happens to be.
Some Salvia greggy I stay more smaller, some get much
much bigger. Share back by about half a little more,
and then it'll come out and it'll be blooming. And
when those blooms start to dwindle, Salvia greggy is always
going to have a bloom on it, so you're always
going to be cutting a bloom off during the growing season.

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But when it starts to dwindle, share it back by
a third. I used to you that in May sometime,
and then water it, fertilize it get new growth. It'll
be more compact, it'll have more terminals, you'll get more blooms,
it'll be rejuvenated and really pretty. And then when we
get to the end of summer and land of August,
share them again by about a third and you're gonna

(01:31:22):
get in fertilizing water, you're gonna get fresh new growth,
and you're gonna have a beautiful fall show. That's also
true of roses. We can do a later August pruning
of roses to get some fresh new growth for a
really nice October show as well. Shrub types of roses,
so we're using heading cuts. We're sharing when we do that,

(01:31:46):
but that's okay and it works. So everything has its
place and purpose. You just have to know when to
use it. And that's what we've been talking about all
day to day. If you just tuned in and you're going,
what's all this about pruning? Go to the website after
this show. Well, it takes a while to get the
show up there, but certainly sometimes Monday you'll be able
to go listen to today's show and here kind of

(01:32:10):
fast forward through all the things and you can listen
to all the advice I've been giving on pruning all
through the day today. That'd be a good one to
bookmark or send to somebody who you know is about
to head outside with pruners. And sometimes you have to
stop people. You know, you have to say, look, you're
going out to punter shrub because you have pruners and
there's a shrub. But do you know what you're doing?

(01:32:31):
You know, cooler heads need to prevail here. Let's get
some training, some information so you get the most out
of your plants. Your place looks good. What do I
always say on guardline? We want you to have a
more bountiful garden, a more beautiful landscape, and more fun
in the process. And knowing how to prune is one
part of that, one part of that to get to

(01:32:52):
enjoy that. All right, there you go. Folks at Microlife
have so many quality fertilizer products that are out there
in the market. You know, the whole line of fertilizers
for Microlife and other products that aren't specifically fertilizers are
all based around microbes.

Speaker 8 (01:33:10):
You know.

Speaker 3 (01:33:10):
They have a thing called micro grow and it's a
bio inoculant and it's found and it's found in their
fall fertilizer. The brown patch sixty three different types of
beneficial microbes that help the plant in one way or another,
from disease fighting to plant growth enhancement. That's how the
world works. Microbes run the world. They do. That's a

(01:33:32):
whole nother soapbox. I won't go there right now, but
a microgrobiinocular is just an example of another one of those.
Now they also have humus, they concentrated compost in a
bag by Microlife, and basically it is a humous type
product that it helps your soil quality, It helps the
structure of the soil. Microbial activity very beneficial from that

(01:33:56):
because this is what nature does. Nature takes leaves and
turns them in to essentially compost, and then it takes
composts and turns it into humus and it's the natural
end product and you can go straight to it with
Microlife products. Also their liquids. Don't forget you need seaweed,
Do you need a fish based fertilizer. Do you want
just a standard fertilizer for your house? But they're all

(01:34:18):
available through Microlife. Go to Microlife fertilizer dot com, Microlife
fertilizer dot com find out where you can get it,
and find out about the other products that I don't
even have time to talk about right here, let's head
out to the phones and we're going to go to
Pattison now and visit with Susan. Hey, Susan, welcome to Guardline.

Speaker 16 (01:34:40):
Hey Skip, good morning. I hear you're multitasking today. Huh
football and everything.

Speaker 8 (01:34:48):
Good question.

Speaker 3 (01:34:50):
Oh I'm sorry, Susan, Susan, I got Susan. I gotta
stop you. I just looked. I'm at a heartbreak. I
have to stop talking. I'll be right back. Sorry about that. Thanks,
let's get back the guard Line here. I'm gonna go
straight back out to Susan and Pattison. Hey, Susan, my
apologies for that. I was not watching the clock. Let's

(01:35:13):
start again.

Speaker 16 (01:35:13):
It's not a problem at all. Sure, I have two questions.
The first one is a clover that's coming up in
my yard a little bit. I've heard that it's good
for the lawn, puts nitrogen in. I've heard it's bad
for the lawn. What's what's the real word on that?

Speaker 3 (01:35:27):
Well, if it is, if it is a clover, it
does fix nitrogen in the soil, and that's a benefit.
But anything growing in the lawn is a competition with
the lawn, So people have various tolerances to that. Some
people it's like, no, it has to be a perfect
lawn like indoor outdoor carpet, green, solid, nothing else in
the lawn, you know. And if if you're on that
end of the spectrum, you got to get rid of it.

(01:35:48):
If you're on the oxy the spectrum, it's like, oh,
maybe it'll bloom and a honey bee will come there,
and so we're just gonna like that and have it
in the lawn.

Speaker 11 (01:35:57):
Depends on what you want there, you go, okay, okay, yeah,
s acond question.

Speaker 16 (01:36:02):
I have some grape vine and some I think it's
called cow itch vine. I know you've talked about trickle pier.
Is it better to cut it off and leave a
kind of a stump or whatever or painted on the
leaves before I cut it?

Speaker 3 (01:36:18):
It's better to cut the stem and paint it right
on the freshly cut stem immediately while it's still wet
and fresh and everything. You can also sometimes, like with
the cowitch vine, that's going to be a smaller vine
in terms of diameter, and so what you can do
is there's a couple of options. You can kind of

(01:36:40):
wound the vines, scrape the sides, of it and paint
it on there to get more contact and get it
into the vine. Or another thing is to put some
vegetable oil in the straight tractle bear just tractli pairs straight,
mix it with a little bit of vegetable oil. Maybe
I don't know, I'm gonna say fifty to fifty's that's

(01:37:04):
just a guess, being awful. Little bit won't matter on this.
But and then use your paintbrush to paint it on
as many areas of the vine, especially down near the base,
closer to the base as you can. And the vegetable
will help it stick. And that cowitch vine doesn't have
really bark on it. It's more of just a smooth greenish,

(01:37:25):
yeah burgundy color. Just paint it right on there and
and it'll soak in better. It'll it'll take it in
better with that vegetable to help it stick on there
a little bit better. But either way you want to
go about it, it shouldn't be you don't go to
great links in trouble. Just get some on the bottom.
And if you don't get it all when it sprouts, you.

Speaker 8 (01:37:41):
Know what to do.

Speaker 4 (01:37:43):
Yeah, yeah, okay, excellent, thank you all.

Speaker 3 (01:37:46):
Right, you bet? Thanks for the call. Appreciate that. Let's
head out now to Cleveland in San Antonio. Hey, Cleveland,
are you really calling from San Antonio?

Speaker 8 (01:37:56):
Oh? No, right now, what I've just hit out past?

Speaker 7 (01:37:59):
Well now so I'm in Texas.

Speaker 3 (01:38:02):
Well, welcome to Texas. Well, good, good, glad you called.
How can we help?

Speaker 7 (01:38:09):
I heard you talking about the rick petinas and hedging
them back.

Speaker 8 (01:38:13):
Yes, I have some of my yard.

Speaker 4 (01:38:15):
They started off at three feet down, they're like thirteen
feet in this.

Speaker 7 (01:38:19):
I was so free.

Speaker 11 (01:38:20):
Yeah, so I heard you bring that up of my
what's the best time to do that?

Speaker 3 (01:38:25):
Yeah, it's well dormant season toward the end of it.
I would say in San Antonio would probably do that
in late January do that kind of pruning. Maybe early
February would be okay. Probably it's gonna really walk them
back and shock them. You've got a big root system
supporting that giant red tip, and so when you cut

(01:38:45):
it back, you're gonna lose some of the root system
just because it doesn't have the foliage to support it.
But it'll balance out. But the main thing is is
it starts to regrow. It's going to regrow vigorously, and
that's where you know, you get about a foot of
growth on it, and then I would it off a
few inches to make it branch again, and another photo growth,
share it off and and and force it to spread

(01:39:08):
out a little lower down like that.

Speaker 8 (01:39:12):
Okay, okay, So.

Speaker 7 (01:39:15):
Take the tops off and the size is just the tops.

Speaker 3 (01:39:19):
It kind of depends on what you want to look like.
And if you want an evenly proportioned shrub in terms
of height then width, you will bring the whole thing
down a lot, and then you will print it accordingly
to create that shape as it regrows. If you're wanting
there's a lot of ways to go about it. Some
people will even take those and trim off side branches

(01:39:40):
and stuff and make a little mini tree out of them,
you know, by cleaning up the bottoms and having that
foliage head up on top. So there's not a right
or wrong on this cleveland. It's it's what do you
want to look at and how big do you want
it to be? Just know this that those old red tips,
we don't have a dwarf when they're the one you
had is not a dwarf type, and so you're going

(01:40:03):
to be fighting it to keep it a smaller size.
Because that's not what it's in it in its genetics
to do. It wants to be big. Okay, okay, thanks
for the help. Yeah, sure, hey, I've safe look out there,
don't run out, don't run over any jack rabbits on
ITM on your way back all you take care man.

(01:40:26):
Thanks for colin. I appreciate that.

Speaker 7 (01:40:29):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (01:40:30):
Let's see now we're going to go to friends Wood
and talk to Tom this morning. Hello Tom, welcome to
garden Line.

Speaker 6 (01:40:36):
Thank you, good morning. I have a Mexican two shrubs
that were just put in and with each they arrived
with kind of a white cottony like patch maybe three
sixteenths by a quarter, and where the new sprout leaves
come out, they're somewhat deformed, a little twisted, little wrinkles,

(01:41:00):
normal with it time heel or.

Speaker 3 (01:41:06):
I think you're talking about a Mexican petunia. Does it
have purplish flowers that are kind of like okay, yeah,
that's a Mexican petunia, and that what you're seeing is
caused by a tiny mite. These are too small to
see and they get on there and they feed on
it and they create this whitish growth. But the feeding

(01:41:28):
activity causes that deformation of the foliage. I think if
it were mine, we're about to go into winter here,
I would cut everything off at the ground and get
every drop of leaves and everything you can out of there,
and then next year it'll come out of the ground
like crazy and it'll be right back in business as
the weather warms up. You know, they tend to die

(01:41:49):
back a little bit if you have a freeze anyway,
and I would just get all that out of there
and all those mites. Trying to spray for them is
just not very practical on that plant. But taking all
the top growth out right before we're going to get
some new growth coming out would be a good idea.

Speaker 6 (01:42:08):
Excellent So when I see it next spring, if I do,
do I just cut off those branches of sprouts.

Speaker 3 (01:42:16):
Well, yeah, that's those mites are you know, they're all around.
Which is you know if you cut it all out
this year and you see it again, it's because some
mites made it. They survive somewhere on some piece of plant.
I have to look at that one. I don't know
if if a insecticidal soap or horticultural lightweight oil spray

(01:42:38):
would work on those. You could try, but coverage is critical.
Those things both are not poisons. They only kill what
you give a bath in the spray. So it may
that may not work. You may have to go to
a more serious mite aside to be able to control
that particular mite. But I would need to check on
that that is not one of our more mites. And

(01:43:00):
so I I don't want to shoot from the hip
and lead you to waste money on products that aren't
going to work.

Speaker 6 (01:43:07):
Well, you give me some promise anyway, thank you?

Speaker 3 (01:43:12):
Yeah, you bet, you bet. Good luck with those. Those
are enthusiastic growers, aren't they.

Speaker 6 (01:43:18):
That's what I've been told I'm looking forward to.

Speaker 3 (01:43:21):
Yeah, they are. Well, just know that they're also prolific receders,
so be ready for that. Good luck with them. I
appreciate your call and call back if you see them
in the spring, callback and we can talk about it again,
and then if you should have them come back again.
All right, Thank you, Tom, Thank you. Alrighty there you go. Hey,

(01:43:42):
time for another break and we'll come back for our
last segment of the hour. Got room for a call
if you would like. Seven one three, two one two
fifty eight seventy four right coming back to our rain
songs this morning celebrate the fact that we do get rains.
All right, let's see here, You're going to go out

(01:44:04):
to a test Asda and talk to Jim. Now, hey, Jim,
welcome to guard Line.

Speaker 8 (01:44:09):
Hey, Hey, good morning, Kip. Thanks for taking my call
that during the winter that you can spray some something
on your plants to protect it from.

Speaker 4 (01:44:23):
The coal like a shield.

Speaker 14 (01:44:26):
Okay, Now, if I take a micro life product and
spray it, well, that helps protect the plant itself.

Speaker 3 (01:44:37):
Seaweed products can protect against the number of different plant
stresses and sometimes are recommended not just like right before
you have a freeze or something, but heading up to
it the plant right as a general beneficial thing, It's
not going to make the difference between you know, it's
going to get twenty five degrees and your hibiscus is
not going to be affected. I mean, it's not that

(01:44:58):
much of a miracle. Care it does. It can help
a little bit on that, and I think that I
think that may be what you're thinking about referring to.

Speaker 8 (01:45:06):
That's what I was referring to, okay.

Speaker 4 (01:45:09):
And also about primming your plants. There's a difference between
trimming and pruning.

Speaker 11 (01:45:14):
So if you just trim the ages a little bit,
a certain percentage of the plant that that's not going
to put in shock.

Speaker 3 (01:45:21):
Correct, No, minor, minor pro it's all pruning because you're
using something to cut off a piece of plant. That
makes it pruning. But what you're talking about minor pruning. Uh,
it is a little bit here and there is just fine. Yeah,
anytime you need to do that, you can do that.
So yeah, that's just a lot to make sure escape.

Speaker 8 (01:45:42):
Thanks love for you call answering.

Speaker 3 (01:45:44):
I appreciate Hey, man, thanks a lot. Take care out
there in a task a seat to appreciate your call. Hey,
you were listening to Guardline. If you've got a gardening question,
you can reach me at seven one three two one
two five eight seven four seven one three two one
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things that are of interest to you. We're about to

(01:46:05):
put this hour in the books in a little bit here,
and we have one more hour today for the rest.
That'll be the end of garden Line until next Saturday.
If you don't listen to past shows, you know you
can do that. You can listen on the kat rh
website on the garden Line page. By the way, I
never give the radio out on KTR it's the seven

(01:46:27):
forty am At seven forty am. A lot of people
listen on their computers or listen on their phones. If
you have an app that plays radio, you can do that.
I use the iHeartMedia app. Go search for garden Line.
There's only two garden line gardening shows in the country
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(01:46:48):
the iHeartMedia app works kind of cool. Nelton Nursery and
water Gardens adding Katie. They are stocked up on Christmas trees,
quality Christmas trees. I would recommend that you go check
them out and do so soon. You know how it
is with Christmas trees. People go in, they pick them over,
they pick their favorite one. So what did they say,

(01:47:09):
the early bird gets the worm. Well, the early shopper
gets the their pick of the Christmas tree. So get
on out there and do that. They also have, by
the way, some beautiful Norfolk pines that already have the
little decorations on them. So you know you're going to
go to some holiday party or something, you need to
grab something and head over there with it as a
gift or whatever. You can just grab one. Sorry, I

(01:47:31):
got decorations on it and ready to go. Four inch pots,
six inch pots, eight inch pots, ready to go for
your Norfolk Island pines. So kick the kids, get out there,
have you a good Christmas tree and bring it back.
That's always a fun, fun memory for kids growing up
and doing that. While you're out there, remember there are
other things they have points set as. They have beautiful

(01:47:52):
hanging baskets and standard types. They also have lots of
nice color for the cool season. And if you're looking
for some really beautiful holiday cactus, the Christmas cactus, Thanksgiving cactus,
those types, they've got those as well at Neilson Marsh
and Water Gardens. So here's how you get there. You
go out I you turn north on Katie Fort Ben

(01:48:15):
Road and it's just up the street on the right
hand side. It's easy to get to, really easy to
get to. I think they may still have some frost
cloth in stock. I know they carry that, But wait
until we get a freeze forecast or a frost and
all your neighbors are going to go get it all.
So I'd recommend you get the first shot at it
and be ready to go. Makes it a lot better

(01:48:35):
to do it that way. Let's go now to John
in Southwest Houston. Hey John, welcome to garden line.

Speaker 11 (01:48:42):
Oh, thank you, Skip.

Speaker 1 (01:48:43):
How are you doing today.

Speaker 3 (01:48:46):
Doing my host? Thank you?

Speaker 11 (01:48:48):
My first question is that when is a good time
to put down the winter rizer for my southwest I
mean my central Boston lawn.

Speaker 3 (01:49:00):
Well, we do our lawn fertilization primarily in October. That
is the most important time. If you have a very
low nitrogen product, you can put a little bit of
it on now, but I wouldn't put too much now
because we're going into the cool season and the grass
just isn't going to take a lot up. We're getting

(01:49:21):
late enough now, we're essentially at the first of December,
and so a modern amount is okay. But in order
to get the most out of it, if you've already
bought it, go ahead and put it out, and but
just be ready to kick back into fertilizing when the
grass begins to grow again in the spring.

Speaker 11 (01:49:38):
Okay, I'm The second question is I do have a
bell peper, a green bell peper that keeps producing? Will
that if I put if I put in the garage.
Will that last till next year?

Speaker 3 (01:49:54):
Yeah, it's in the container right now, yes, yes, okay, yes,
so you can. You can put it in the garage.
You can when we get some sunny days and when
it's not below fifty degrees, you can put it outside
and let it capture sunlight. You will continue to have
it growing through the winter, and you can put it

(01:50:15):
back out next year when the danger of frost is passed.
If you want to go to the trouble of that,
you can. Some people will even bring them inside and
get really high quality plant lights and put them under
those and continue to grow them through the cool season.
Just remember the temperature is what is controlling their growth rates.
So even though they're not freezing, if the temperatures you know,

(01:50:37):
are in the low sixties and fifties, it's not going
to grow much. Well, thank you very much, all right, sir,
Thanks John, appreciate your call. Good luck with those plants.
Sounds like a lot of fun, Sam and Sugarland. It
looks like we're going to come to you first. We
come back after this top of the hour break for

(01:50:57):
the news. Just another reminder with Skip that's me gardening
with Skip Dot com That's where you'll find information, including
my nine page full color publications that I co authored
on protecting plans from frost and freezes. Please read it,
get ready, get the supplies you need. Don't wait until

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the first frost is forecast.

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last call. Here we go, last hour of the show.
Seven one three two one two five eight seven four
seven one three two one two fifty eight seventy four. Uh,

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let's do this. We're going to go straight out to
the phones here and start off with Sam in sugar Land.
Hey Sam, Welcome to garden Line.

Speaker 17 (01:52:34):
Hey Skipper, sounds like from your last caller. I was
being screened at the time, but if I heard correctly,
it may be a little too late to do the
fall fertilization unless I have something maybe organic.

Speaker 3 (01:52:48):
Well, it's not an organic synthetic thing. And here here's
the here's what I'm trying to say. Maybe I probably
didn't say it clearly on this, but best benefit from
vaulfertilization is when you follow the schedule and do it,
get it done in October, because then the grass has
more actively growing roots, it's warmer, there's more activity and uptake,

(01:53:12):
and you get all those nutrients that you paid for.
You're you're getting more of them into the grass plant
as both washing off or or volatilizing away or things
like that, which nitrogen especially is prone to. If you
have vaulftilizer on hand and you just didn't get around
to it, go ahead and use it. I would say,
you know, don't not use it, but it's the benefits

(01:53:36):
are going to be more limited at this point in
time from it. And with the organic products they there's
there's microbial activity that's releasing those strenths, and as it
gets colder and colder, that slows down, so the nutrient
releases even slower on it. So anyway, is it too
late to do any of the pre emergent well any yeah,

(01:54:02):
same kind of answer. Any of the weed seeds that
have germinated and are now sitting there as little small
weed plants than your pre emergence. You've missed the boat
on those, but any that have not yet germinated, the
pre emergent would protect against. And it kind of depends.

Speaker 7 (01:54:18):
I guess we're going to be killing weed that they
come up and jumping on it in.

Speaker 3 (01:54:22):
February probably, you know, I would go out and look
and see what you see in the lawn. But yes,
you can still use them, and that will carry if
you use them now. I think we're December January. Yeah,
I would. If you use them now, you could delay
a tiny bit on your February application because that stuff,

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in this cool weather and things, is going to be
hanging around a little bit longer. But if you want
to just wait and then see, I would be watching
your lawn in the late January even early February period
and on to mid February even and when you see
the little weed plant that are been growing and they've
all germinated and stuff, it's real easy to kill them

(01:55:04):
with a post emergent at that time. And being so cool,
that post emergence is not going to hurt your If
it's a Saint Augustine Low, it's not gonna hurt it.
As much as it would when the weather heats up
a lot, so you can get them at a very
young stage before they start growing like crazy and blooming
and setting seed. Just think of the blue bonnets on
the road side. They're little tiny plants right now. Once

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they get blooms on, it would be very hard to
kill them with a post emergent compared to when they're young.
All right, I appreciate it, all right, sir, Thank you, Sam.
Good luck with that. There you go. Well you're listening
to guard Line. Here's a number seven one three two
one two five eight seven four seven one three two

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one two five eight seven for us talking about pruning
trees and hiring somebody that knows what they're doing, and
that would be Affordable Tree Company. Affordable Tree Company, Martin
Spoon Moore's company has been around a very long time.
That the family company actually uh and you know right
now it's still a family company. When you call Affordable Tree,

(01:56:09):
you're going to talk to Martin or his wife Joe,
or his mom Judy, a nice lady doctors sometimes.

Speaker 8 (01:56:16):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (01:56:16):
And if you call Affordable Tree Service at seven six
two six six three, you should talk to one of those.
If you don't. If somebody else answers the phone. Listen,
there's another company out there that that put affordable in
the name. They're not uh and so Martin, his wife
Joe or his mom Judy, that's Affordable Tree Service. Give

(01:56:38):
them a call seven one three, six nine nine two
sixty three. Martin can come out and he can get
he can schedule and come out and any kind of
pruning your plants need, he can do that now if
I want to do if you want him to come out,
uh and UH, you know, do any kind of number
of other services. You can go to his website and

(01:56:59):
find out about the the things that he does in
terms of tree service like a deep root feeding or
pest and disease control, or stump grinding or consultation uh
Afftree Service dot com. Aff Tree Service dot com. If
you're going to do anything around a tree in your yard,

(01:57:19):
maybe you're planning a new concrete driveway, or you're going
to extend onto the house, or you need to put
in some utility trenches through, call Martin first to come
out and he'll do a consultation and advise you on
how to protect that tree best. It is so much
easier to get the information and get the work done

(01:57:41):
to protect the tree first than it is to wait
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saves nine Right, there's a lot of prince. There's a

(01:58:01):
lot of good principles too, the fact that it sure
does help to not delay, don't delay, don't put off
doing the right thing for your plants. Have you been
out to in Chenne Gardens lately? Boy, they are hopping
out there, you know, the Christmas, the holiday season and
everything with the trees. They're loaded up with that. Of

(01:58:22):
course all the other plants that you would expect to
get during this type of season from a place like
in China Gardens which has everything out there. They you're
going to be able to get them now. And I
was looking at the selection that they have the other day.
It's just outstanding. In fact, if you are wanting like

(01:58:43):
a little miniature Christmas tree type thing inside that, then
you would plant outside. They have some beautiful little junipers
that are just trimmed up. You can hang some lights
on them, you know, not the heavy lights, but the
little tiny wire lights that have a little like a
swollen spot in the wire that has old tiny glowing
bulb in it. Those are cool and you can do

(01:59:04):
that and then you take it outside when it's done,
and it's plant your planet. December, January, February all good
times to plant things. Maybe it is a type of sedar,
Maybe it is a type of juniper or arborviety. All
those kinds of little plants can be purchased now used
indoors and then put outside. Just remember during the holidays
to spend give them as much time outside as you can,

(01:59:27):
just so that they stay in their top shape. If
you go into the gift shops and in Chenny Gardens,
you will come out with some really really special gifts.
Wonderful selection. They always have good selection out there, but
really wonderful selection. I appreciate that if you are in there,
you're gonna find books, You're gonna find decorations and all

(01:59:49):
kinds of cool stuff. I always like to go there.
I also like to go there because their staff is
an incredibly helpful team, about as enthusiastic as you can get.
You can take them f you can take them samples,
put them in a bag, so something doesn't escape. But
take them some samples of things for them to look
at and say, identify this, what's this bug? Or whatever

(02:00:09):
questions you might have. They'll be happy to help you.
And remember when you go to Antenna Gardens, they do
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so you're gonna find soils from both Nature's way and
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(02:00:31):
and from Microlife all there. So the brown stuff for
the green stuff the best foundation you can create for
the perfect plants to thrive in your area. Intented Gardens
Richmond dot com. By the way, they're north on the
Katie Foster side of Richmond on FM three fifty nine.
Let's take a quick break here. When we come back,

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John and Tumbull and Lloyd and Pennington. You're a first two.
All right, welcome back. You know, thanks givings over when
you hear music, it's Christmas VI.

Speaker 4 (02:01:03):
There you go.

Speaker 3 (02:01:04):
I hope you're having a good Sunday. By the way,
thanks for listening to garden Line. We're gonna jump right
into it here, got some collars online. Head out to
Tomball and talk to John Well. Hello John, Welcome to
garden Line.

Speaker 8 (02:01:19):
Good morning, scoff. I have a quick question for you
about a myer living I did something as shot and down.
I've fed it and it's in a pot. So now
it's blooming everywhere. Okay, So what should I do? Should I?
I mean, how did they do it when it gets cold?

(02:01:40):
Or shall I just wait till the freezes put it
in the garage or what?

Speaker 7 (02:01:47):
Well?

Speaker 3 (02:01:48):
Yeah, lemons are a type of interest that can repeatedly bloom.
You know, they don't just like satsum oranges for example,
They're gonna bloom in the and and producing the fall.
Only that that's when they bloom earlier, but they produce
in the fall. On lemons can you're can have cycles
on those. And so just give it a give it
protection from real, real cold weather. It will grow in

(02:02:11):
very cool conditions. It just slows down a lot. But
you can continue to keep it outside as much as possible.
I would say, if it's going to get down maybe
below the upper thirties, I would definitely bring it, bring
it in. We can have frosts even at thirty six

(02:02:32):
degrees when conditions are right, so we want to want
to avoid that, but give it as much sunlight as
you can, and that way it won't defoliate as much
and you'll perhaps get a little more development of those
of those lemons as well.

Speaker 8 (02:02:46):
Okay, see you told me a while back not to
feed it. At this point, I'll think I'll throw some
fat on it. A couple of weeks ago, yeah, because
you're still warmer, you know, and now it's just movement.

Speaker 3 (02:03:00):
Yeah. Well, John, you're not the only person that doesn't
listen to what I say. I got a wife from kids,
so I joined the group. Seriously though, Now it's just
that when we have plants that are semi coal tender.
This is for other people listening to them, and other
types of plants when they're semi coal tender, you don't
want to push them into a lot of growth going

(02:03:22):
into fall, because succulent new growth is more cold tender
than hardened off growth mature hardened off growth is. So
that's the reason I said that. But if you can,
if it's in a pot and you can holler it in,
that's fine. You're all right, not a problem, So just
feed it.

Speaker 8 (02:03:39):
Again maybe after the after the freeze late say, early March.

Speaker 3 (02:03:45):
Now I would I would quit feeding it. How yellow
were the is the foliage? Does it look nice? Decent green?

Speaker 8 (02:03:52):
Yeah, it looks.

Speaker 3 (02:03:54):
Okay. Well I wouldn't I would. I wouldn't put any
more fertilizer on it. Let's let the weather warm up.
When we kind of passed that last average frost date,
then that's when I would I would probably consider I
think you know, if you go back over many many
years and look at the average average frost state that
you have there, you're probably looking at about around the

(02:04:18):
first of March or so in your area. So I
would say, let's get let's get into a week or
so into March, and then gradually begin to give it
a little bit of fertilizer. Appreciate this yip all right,
Tom or John, thank you very much. I appreciate that you.
Take care. Oh, let's go to Pennington now and talk

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to Lloyd. Hey, Lloyd, welcome to garden line.

Speaker 8 (02:04:42):
Well, I got a question to buy some sweet corn.

Speaker 14 (02:04:46):
Okay, every year I have a problem.

Speaker 8 (02:04:48):
With tig weed. Would I be better?

Speaker 14 (02:04:51):
Is there a pre margin I could put down for
the pig weed? Or should I wait until it's about
six thank youes tall, and heat it post a market
with some round it.

Speaker 3 (02:05:06):
Well if yeah, by the time it's that tall, though,
your sweet corn will be growing right.

Speaker 14 (02:05:13):
Yeah, all about six eight tall.

Speaker 8 (02:05:16):
Ship should have come in post a margin.

Speaker 3 (02:05:22):
You can do it either way.

Speaker 14 (02:05:23):
Uh.

Speaker 7 (02:05:24):
That the.

Speaker 3 (02:05:27):
Post or the pre emergence that are labeled for use
in vegetables are are limited compared to what we have
access to for your for your lawn and landscape and
things like that.

Speaker 14 (02:05:39):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (02:05:39):
And so that that is the only uh consideration or
concern you know that I would have about those pig
weed is being a broad leaf weed.

Speaker 8 (02:05:49):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (02:05:50):
You want to aim your pre emergent to something that
will do a pretty good job on the broad leafs.
And I think you mentioned atrazine that would work. You
somebody be real careful with that. That you don't hear
me recommended on guardline. And the reason is not because
it doesn't work. It works very well, and it even
has some post emergent kickback. So if the if the
weeds start to come up and then you put it

(02:06:12):
on them, it'll it'll it'll work well on that. In fact,
that's probably even a better time to do it. Is
when they've just started germinating. But it moves in water
like crazy, and so it can get into trees and
shrub roots and cause damage. It can get off into
the water supplies, and so you may be all careful
with a product like that.

Speaker 8 (02:06:32):
What did it hurt? My page.

Speaker 7 (02:06:38):
Around?

Speaker 3 (02:06:38):
It would kill them for sure, Yeah, round up with
kill them. But atrezine is a pre and early post emergent,
early meaning when they're very young. Still round up as
a post emergent. It doesn't do anything pre emergent and
it kills post So some people use a strategy where
they let the weeds sprout and they just kill the

(02:06:59):
weeds and then they carefully plant through there. Anytime you
turn new soil over, new weed seeds come up, new
weeds show up, and so you want to not disturb
the soil surface. And in a lawn that's easy because
nobody's going through there with a rototeller or a hoe
or anything like that disturbing the soil. In a vegetable garden,
it's hard to not disturb the soil. And so if

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you've got a sizeable vegetable garden, I'm sure you don't
have it thickly mulched, because that's not practical for a
large garden. So that's kind of the trade off you're
looking at. But yeah, you in fact, you could go through,
you know, if you caught these things really early. I mean,
you could go through with a spray like vinegar anything.
It just burns the top of them when they're young,

(02:07:43):
tender weeds. But you want to water at first, take
all the seeds try to come up. It's going to
look like a chia pet. That whole thing's on turpolid
green from all the weed seeds. And then you knock
them out before they get very big at all, and
then you do your planting carefully after that, trying to
not disturb the soil.

Speaker 14 (02:08:01):
Would that vinegar hurt the corn?

Speaker 3 (02:08:04):
Yeah, it would hurt the corn. But I'm saying you're
pre sprouting your weeds and then planting your corn is
what you would be doing.

Speaker 6 (02:08:12):
I like to plant my corn in February.

Speaker 3 (02:08:19):
All right, Well why not just do some shallow cultivation.
How big is your corn pat?

Speaker 14 (02:08:25):
I got normally about fourteen roads about two hundred foot long.

Speaker 3 (02:08:33):
Where do I show up for my free sweet corn?
For giving you advice on the radio, Seriously, that's a lot.
So corn benefits from being held up a little bit,
which means, you know, you kick a little dirt in
towards the stalks and those brace roots that come out
at the bottom. It helps them to be a little
more sturdy. For when you get a little windstorm through. Well,

(02:08:54):
if the weeds had sprouted and you did the heiling
up cultivation, that would take care of them. And then
you may do that again and going through later. If
you have any kind of little cultivator, you can run there,
run through there with very shallow I might just take
that approach initially.

Speaker 14 (02:09:09):
I normally run through there with a set of hillers,
and I thought a pretty good bed of dirt to them,
you know, but felt we need some bad crap or
I guarantee you it is it is.

Speaker 3 (02:09:22):
You know, you can eat it. You can eat the
leaves of pickweed when they're young and tender. Yeah, you're
scrowing greens in your corn patch. That's what's happening there
with the pigweed. Yeah, amaranth. Look look up, do a
search for amaranth, uh vegetable to say, vegetable, amorant or something.
Some amaranth. The pigweed they grow for the seed to
make flour. Some they grow for the leaves to make

(02:09:44):
edible leaves. Actually pretty good. But I don't I don't
think that's a practical solution to the little amaranth types
you have coming up in your patch there.

Speaker 14 (02:09:53):
So anyway, all right, well, I expect me to be
there that whenever my corn gets ready, I expect you
be there.

Speaker 3 (02:10:01):
I'll tell you what that that corn. When it's ready,
you got to start boiling water inside. So when you
pick it, you have to run to get it in
the boiling water as fast as you can for top quality.

Speaker 7 (02:10:12):
Did you ever eat it wrong?

Speaker 8 (02:10:15):
I have?

Speaker 3 (02:10:16):
Yeah? Are you growing sweet corn or feel corn or
super sweet corn? Which type of your wrong? A bodacious?
Oh that's a good rioting Yeah, bodaceous, super silly. Don't
plan any of the kinds around it. Yeah, maybe we'll talk,
I mean, let me talk about that when we come
back here. We're going to take a break here in
a little bit. I mean talk about types of sweet corn.

(02:10:37):
I've never talked about that on the show. All right, Lloyd,
you take care up there and let me know when
the let me know when the yeah, let me know
when the fish are biting in Lake Livingstone. All right,
I'll do that, thank you, sir. Yeah, all right, bye bye,
all right, folks, take a little break here, we'll be back.

(02:10:59):
Welcome back to Garden Line, Little John Mellingtown, small town
that's going up. How many of you grew up in
a small town or in the country outside in the country,
I did a little town of eighteen hundred people, actually
eighteen hundred and thirty six, who's counting at that time?
Jordan and Texas south of San Antonio. We got listeners

(02:11:22):
from Jordan and Texas, probably hopefully listening this morning. There's
advantages of grown up in a small town. And you know,
wherever you grow up, there's things you like about it
and things you don't like about it. In a small town,
everybody knows your name, as they say on cheers. But also,
I don't know, it has its pluses. I sure am

(02:11:44):
happy to have been that in the brush country. You know,
the season we're in now is the best season for
planning for the year. And I've been telling you that
since scotsh play back in September. When we get into
the fall, as it cools off, the plants are getting
ready to go dormant, and then as they do drop
their leaves. That is the least stressful time of the

(02:12:06):
year to put a plant in the ground. And even
though the top of the plant isn't growing, the root
system because our soil, you know, we have that like
freeze to foot deep like you do further north, our
soils just don't freeze. And then those fifty degrees temperatures
that are down there in the soil, the roots are
growing and they establish well. So when next summer heat comes,

(02:12:28):
which arrives what may here, that plant is ready to
go and has the advantage over spring planting that way.
And I keep trying to talk people into doing that.
But before you plant, don't just PLoP that poor plant
in an unprepared plot. Fix the soil first. Get the
soil right so that the roots thrive. If you're planning
a tomato plant or vegetables or you know, annual flowers,

(02:12:52):
well you can plant them, let them do what they're
going to do, and then dig them up when it's
into the time to replant, and then fix the soil again.
But when you're putting a roasbus in the ground, or
a tree in the ground, or a shrub in the ground,
a perennials in the ground. Once they're planted, you just
can't rototill the things six inches deep. Your stock with
what you have. Prepare the soil ahead of time. Make

(02:13:13):
sure the drain is is good, bill raise beds. Make
sure the organic content is good. Organic matter content of
the soil very important for soil structure, especially in the
heavy clay soils that are predominant along the Gulf Coast region.
And then finally, make sure the nutrient content is right
as well. Some nutrients you can put them on top,

(02:13:34):
they'll watch down and the soil just find not a problem.
Nitrogen is a very big example of that. But phosphorus
ties up in the surface when you put it down,
and it's better to have it down in the soil.
Some people put it in the hole when they plant
a plant of some certain types of plant bottom lines.
Get sol right. Ciana Maltz is a place to go
south of Houston for doing that, Siena Maltz or down

(02:13:56):
south easton on FF five twenty one. Just go to
their website Sienna Mulch dot com. You'll find out things
like they're hours by the way, they're closed today, but
Monday through Friday seven thirty to five Saturday seven thirty
to two. You'll find out where they're located on five
point twenty one. How to get there. This is the
place you go and you get everything you need for

(02:14:18):
the foundation for plant success. That includes the organic materials
like a compost for example, like a bend mix such
as the Veggie RB mix from Airlin Soils. It also
includes the premium fertilizers I talk about on garden Line,
a product like Azamite, products like Nelson's, products like nitrofoss
or Medina products like Microlife. They're all available at Cienmals.

(02:14:43):
So whether if you're within twenty miles away they'll deliver
for a fee. They can deliver or you can just
go get it there wherever you live and bring it
back bulk. They do the supersacks. They do a dump
of bulk. They even have bags of things. Just go
to see in a mulch and get that done. I
know it's the busy season is about to get very

(02:15:04):
busy for those of you that are very active in
the holidays. Go ahead and get those soa beds ready.
You can always plant later, you know, wait until if
you need to wait until January. Plant that's fine, but
get the beds ready now. An old gardener, ninety year
old gardener, mister Alden Colston at the Friendship Community Garden
up in Conro, Texas, on the north sides off Airport Road.

(02:15:25):
It used to be now it's moved a little bit.
He used to say something that I've never forgotten. Ninety
years old. He was a character too, by the way.
You know those baskets that they use as plant containers,
Like if you have a plant and a container, they'll
set the container in a basket that's kind of a
fluted basket. As a decoration like now they use plastic

(02:15:46):
and foil and things like that. He would wear one
of those as a hat. It was the funniest looking thing.
It was like a cross between a sombrero and a
shriner's fez sitting up on his hat because the top
of it was was like the bottom of a pot,
you know, round and straight Abraham Lincoln top Anyway, Alden Coulson,
he said, you can always add water, but you can't

(02:16:08):
take it away. And that is pretty true. I know
some of you are going well. You can put some
surface strainage, but yeah, that's a lot of work. But
when you have a vegetable garden and it's time to plant,
you want to be able to plant. And if you're
waiting for the soil to dry out enough so that
you can rot hotil or spade or whatever you're going
to do, you'll be waiting a long time and you

(02:16:29):
miss those planning windows. So it's better to get the
soil ready before we go into the wintertime when there
is some dryness and we're about to get rain to
day as I'm saying that. But whenever you can get
a little period where you can work that swell up
and build the beds and do all that, that's the
time you want to do it. Mostip place to go.
That's the bottom line. Make it simple as that. All right, Well,

(02:16:49):
you're listening to Garden Line. I'm your host, Skip Richter,
and we have about a minute before I go to break,
and then that last segment, I probably have room for
two callers in that last second. So if you hurry
up and make a phone call, you can be one
of the two seven one three two one two five
eight seven four seven one three five one two excuse me,

(02:17:11):
seven one three two one two five eight seven. I've
said that so many times, I can't believe it. I
messed it up. I was talking before break to Lloyd
up in Pennington. We were talking about corn, and uh.
The something that people probably in general aren't aware of
is that there's several types of corn that you can

(02:17:33):
plant in a garden. If you want to make corn meal,
the old field corn is the corn you want. It's hard,
it's starchy, big plump kernels and everything. If you want
to grow popcorn, that's another kind of corn that you
can grow in the garden. If a lot of people
like sweet corn, standard sweet corn, the negative of standard

(02:17:56):
sweet corn is once you pick it jo I was
joking with a Lloyd that you got to have a
water boiling inside. So you run straight to the pot,
it starts to lose its sweetness. You know, sitting there
in a farm stand for two days, it's not gonna
be the same corn as you picked. Super sweet corn.
There's actually more than one type of super sweet corn.
But anyway, super sweet corn is lots of sugar compared

(02:18:18):
to starch. And if you look at the seeds instead
of your standard little deer corn looking plump corn seed,
it is shriveled and translucent. That is super sweet. Now
it is super sweet, and it stays sweet. Some people
don't care for how sweet it is, but it is.
He mentioned bodacehas. That's an awesome type of super sweet corn.

(02:18:39):
And with the super sweets, if the soil is cool
in the spring, you plant them real early. They're not
as good at germinating because they don't have that starch reserve.
They're a little slower to come up and whatnot, and
so that's a little bit of a negative to them.
But boy, i'd share is a good corny. But whatever
you're gonna do, don't plant different ones together. If you
plant feel corn and are regular sweet, corn is super sweet.

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The one example that comes to mind immediately of where
the pollination of a plant affects the fruit that you're
eating from that pollination. In this case, the corn pollinates
with something other than super sweet, and the quality of
the kernels is no longer a super sweet. Colonel, all right,
fun fact for those of you who won't want to

(02:19:23):
try growing corn, something to think about. And thanks for
bringing that topic up, Lloyd. Let's take a little break here,
we'll be right back. Looks like Susan's gonna be our
first call. Here we go, last segment of guarden Line
for the week. We will take off here. We're going
to start off with We'll go to Susan here in Beville.
By the way, if you've got a quick question and

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your first caller will we can add one more to
this that you'd like. Susan in Belleville. Welcome to garden Line.
Welcome to guard Line. Good to have you, Susan.

Speaker 18 (02:19:54):
I am a friend of mine was trimming up plumbaria
and gave me like eight I got calm sticks and
uh a couple of months ago and I have raised
beds out outside with good soil, so I I put
them in and stuck them in the in the soil,
and four of them are now have some really nice
plumaria leaves coming out. And I want to know how

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to Yes.

Speaker 16 (02:20:19):
It's as I'm excited.

Speaker 18 (02:20:20):
I want to know how to store them in the winter?

Speaker 8 (02:20:23):
Do I do? I?

Speaker 18 (02:20:24):
I put my big plummereas in the garage, but disease?
Do I need to put them in a pot?

Speaker 8 (02:20:29):
Or do I?

Speaker 4 (02:20:30):
Okay?

Speaker 3 (02:20:32):
So did you oh okay, yeah, no, you can dig
them up if you wanted to pot them. You could.
Some people will just kind of hang their plumberas in
the garage, you know, shake those dirt off the roots
and stuff and just hang them in the garage. Either
way you want to go about it, just treat them
like you do your other ones. Say they need to

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not freeze and hopefully not even get real real close
to freezing either. Uh but uh in a cool sph
they'll just they'll sit there and wait. They got plenty
of moisture s stems, and yeah, that'll work.

Speaker 4 (02:21:06):
Terrific.

Speaker 18 (02:21:07):
Good, Thank you very much, love show.

Speaker 3 (02:21:10):
All right, well, thank you, and when they bon send
me a picture I'd love to see. I'd love to see.

Speaker 8 (02:21:16):
Okay, thank you, bye.

Speaker 3 (02:21:20):
Bye bye. All right here, we've got one collar coming in.
We're going to be to make that our last one
for the day. Today has been a day talking about pruning,
and we've covered a lot of different topics related to pruning. Uh,
you know, making sure that when we prune, we use
quality tools that are sharp, We prune in the right way.
We don't leave stuff, we don't cut just right up

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against the trunk where the wound becomes bigger. The you know,
as that branch starts to get bigger when it joined
the larger branch or the trunk. Uh, the further back
you cut, the bigger that wound gets. And let's avoid that.
Don't need to do pruning paints unless you're in an
area with oak wilt pruning an oak tree, and in
that case you can prune with a sag on one

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hand and pruning paint in the other in order to
avoid that problem. Okay, we're going to run out here
to Richmond now and visit with Doug this morning. Hey Doug,
welcome to garden Line.

Speaker 7 (02:22:12):
Good morning, Skip. So I got some box hedges that
whole branches turned brown and it must be prebooks is
in my subdivision. I see other box hedges having the
same problem. I've never seen this before over many many years.
So just kind of want to figure out what the
heck's going on with him and taking ticks anything, or

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just have to replace him, or what's the ing.

Speaker 3 (02:22:38):
Well, something has killed that branch, and most likely in
my opinion is that it is a disease called boxwould blight.
That just it's like a kinker killing of the branch
and everything out from that turns that tan brown color.
That box would turn and there's no curing it, there's
no spraying it. We just don't have a good control

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for They are breeding for better resistance in boxwood to
boxwood blight, but that that would be the The alternative
would be to pull them up and uh, and I
need to check on what's the latest on the breeding
as to what varieties would be best for here for that.

Speaker 7 (02:23:16):
But anyway they're getting there's no varieties, I say.

Speaker 3 (02:23:22):
Probably are Yeah, yeah, there, I think there are. The
names aren't occurring to me off the top of my head.
When we get through talking, my producer can give you
an email and if you want to email me, I
can send you that off the top of my head.
Right now, one is not coming to mind. And you
know boxwood's coming different sizes and types and stuff, so
it's not just like one quick answert of that. Also,

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boxwoods are susceptible to nematodes if the soil, especially if
the soil is a little bit on the sandy side,
but not just sandy soil. Nemotodes weaken them and slow
them down and make them less drought resilient.

Speaker 4 (02:23:56):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (02:23:56):
There's also fungal diseases of the soil that can attack
boxwood's and plug the plumbing of the plant. That's a
possibility on them. And there's something else. What am I forgetting? Oh?
A cold damage when your boxwood is not fully hardened off.
A good hard phrase will cause splitting of the branches,
and then that split tissues, they die back, and that

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that whole branch dies out. But that's not what's happening now.
That would have been if we had a hard phrase
last winter, and you would have seen it long ago.
But what you're looking at is box of blight. I'm
ninety percent sure.

Speaker 7 (02:24:31):
Also, I've got to bermuda grass and I've got these
little birds that show up in it, and I've tried
pulling them. I've tried, you know, you know, multiple different
weed killers. But is there something that will kill us
out without damage? In my bermuda? The birds come on
the very top of it, very top of the looks

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like grass, but it's a little thinner, a little it
almost like stocks on it and everything. You get a
burn on the top of.

Speaker 3 (02:24:58):
It, okay, And it's yeah, if it's a sticker, If
it's a sticker bar up on top of a grass
looking plant, that is sand bur or grassbur is another
name for it, and that one it loves poor soil.
So as you water and fertilize your lawn, the lung
gets better and the actually the grass birds don't do
as well as they do in a poor soil. Is
your so sandy up there?

Speaker 7 (02:25:22):
Yeah, it's about six years old here, and they put
in sand on okay, on top of it, you know,
And so I've been trying to put furlizes and everything else,
you know, regular to try to thick.

Speaker 3 (02:25:35):
What you want to do is get you some barricade.
And when when we get into normally in my schedule
for lawns, I'm saying, put in the barricade. Let's see,
you're in the Richmond putting down the barricade, probably in
mid February, even early February, if you want for that
area to get ahead of a graspers sprout a tiny
bit later. So if you went to late February, that's fine,

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Or you could just do it in mid February and
then about sixty days later probably redo it. Don't overdo
either application. Follow the label. But that second one two
months later is going to extend that protection from the
graspper seeds germinating and you'll never have to.

Speaker 7 (02:26:14):
That's a pre emergence pre emergent, right, it's a.

Speaker 3 (02:26:16):
Pre emergen, but you have to barricade pre emergent. Go
to my schedules at gardening with Skip dot com and
it's all there, all the products and everything.

Speaker 8 (02:26:24):
Is right there.

Speaker 7 (02:26:26):
I appreciate Skip.

Speaker 3 (02:26:27):
Thank you very much, good luck with that. Thanks a lot, Doug,
did you want to was there something? Yeah? If you
I'm going to put you on hold. My producer will
give you an email if you want more information on
the box with Thanks a lot for the call.

Speaker 8 (02:26:40):
Folks.

Speaker 3 (02:26:41):
Hey been a good day. I've enjoyed it. I hope
you had. We had some fun sports scores