Take-All Root Rot? In MY Lawn?

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Well.

Speaker 1 (01:09):
It is good to be with you. Good morning. If
you're listening to Garden Line, I'm your host, Skip rich
and we're here to help you have a beautiful garden,
a bountiful landscape and more fun in the process. That's
what it's all about. Hey, if you'd like to be
part of a game today, well me call seven one
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three two one two five eight seven four and we'll
be happy to visit with you about the kind of
gardening questions that you have. Boy, I tell you there's
some elephants in the room today when it comes to
gardening stuff. I'll be talking quite a bit about take
our root right as we go through the day. Uh,
it is everywhere, it seems like, and based on the

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just everything from emails to phone calls to uh people
run across and hey, how you doing? Hey mom, reaching
their phone their pocket and pull out of and go,
my yard's got this spot. That's how it goes when
you're a horticulturist. I guess doctors have it worse though
a doctor, you know, the doc. They find out you're
a doctor and they go, yeah, I got this spot

(02:12):
here on my arm. Would you take a look at
the boy. I've got to get tired of that. Anyway.
I don't ever get tired of gardening. I really, really,
really enjoy it a lot. It means it's just a
it's more than a job. It's a hobby, it's a
it's just what I like to do. I absolutely love

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to do it. That's my happy place being in the garden.
The other day I had to ty Strickland from fix
my slab on and he went into great detail about
foundation repair and those of you who listened, I hope
you enjoyed it. If not, you need to go back
and listen to one of the past shows to hear that.

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But Ty talked about the fact that our trees are
pumping water out of the soil around our house and
that is what that shrinking and swelling from wetting and
drying and so on, that is what's causing the movement
and the problems in our foundation. And he understands how
to do it. You know your foundation. You may see
a crack somewhere, he comes by, he looks at it,
he'll tell you whether it needs fixing or not, because basically,

(03:15):
he said, all concrete cracks, that's one way. But it
is it's not unusual to have a crack. It's Is
it a crack you need to do something about before
significant damage occurs. Do you have a driveway you need
floated up level again because it's all bent and cracked
and moving around. Well call him two eight one two
five five forty nine forty nine two eight one two
fi five forty nine forty nine, or go to his

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website fixmslab dot com. Fix myslab dot com. Let him
take a look at it, because you know, as we're
getting now into hot weather and it's getting a little
drier than it was, we're starting to see the shrinking
going on. And that's part of the deal. Sidewalks, driveways,
you name it. He knows what he's doing. It does
good work too, by the way, he shows up on time,

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he fixes it right now, he charges your fair price.
Those are the three magical things I want to have
from anybody that comes to my house to do any
kind of work. Show up when you're going to tell
me you're going to show up when you fix it.
I don't have to hire somebody to refix your fix.
And I want the price to be reasonable fair, And
that's all true of Ty absolutely. I was at Southwest

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Fertilizer a not too long ago and taking a look
at some of the new products that they have, and
they always have new products there. You know, there are
several there's always some new thing coming on the market
and it may be a thing for weeds or diseases
or insects, it may be a new kind of fertilizer.
And Bob always has whatever's the latest there. And I

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literally do walk up and down the aisles periodically just
to see what's there now, just so I know when
someone calls and they got a problem, I'll know where
you can get it. And it's always going to be
a Southwest Fertilizer. That that is how they do it
corner Abyssinet and Runwick. They from tools to products for
your lawn and garden to make life easier, to make

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life happier out there in the lawn and garden at
Southwest Fertilizer seven one three six sixty six seventeen forty four.
Let's now go out to oak Forest. We're going to
talk to Mike this morning. Hey Mike, welcome to garden. Hi,
how are you skip doing good? Doing good? How can
we help excellent?

Speaker 8 (05:25):
Yes, I have a really nice nettle oak tree outside
of my front yard. It's about fifteen years old and
I need your your expertise. About two years ago I
noticed some stress on one side of the tree up
to about six to eight feet and it was not

(05:47):
on the one hundred and eighty degree opposite side of
the tree. And it has slowly it lost bark and
it almost looks like there's some dead wood, but the
canopy of the metal oak is green and verdant. It's
all nice. The other side of the tree is fine,

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and it seems like the bark is trying to go
and wrap around the tree to heal itself. But I
don't know if the healing process is after two years
is okay if there's major damage to the tree. And
that's what I'm looking for, is like, is it an insect,
is it a fungus, it is a microbo some kind

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or other?

Speaker 9 (06:31):
You know.

Speaker 8 (06:31):
Of course we had the direct show and the barrel
as well tooes. I don't know if that had it well.

Speaker 1 (06:36):
I received your photos and I can see exactly what's
going on there for those listening who can't see the photos,
this is a nice ice tree trunk that had major
loss of bark through about what looks to me like
about fifty percent of the way around the tree almost

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and now it is starting to heal back over. It
kind of looks like a lava fl low when when
the bark begins to crawl back over or the the
tissues and it is healing, but the interior is decaying
to a significant amount.

Speaker 10 (07:10):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (07:11):
And so what you don't want to happen is for
that to just sort of crumble away, because then the
the healing callus that's coming in from the side will
just kind of curl under, you know, and instead of
going on across, there won't be a solid foundation for
it to move across. Mike, it's a tough call. That
tree is always now going to be structurally weaker. Now

(07:34):
in time, that gets stronger and stronger as the bark
closes and as the trunk gets thicker with actual solid wood.
But there's there's a decayed spot there that will continue
to decay.

Speaker 10 (07:48):
You know.

Speaker 1 (07:48):
It's like a lay a two by four on the ground.
It's going to start to rot, and it's only going
to rot more over time, and every time it rains
there's moisture and so on. I don't see anything that
an arborus can do to help that tree. They can
make an assessment as to how strong is it and
what are the likelihoods that it might break in a

(08:08):
storm at this point or something down the line, But
there's no fixing it other than you giving it adequate
water during especially summer droughts, with a deep soaking infrequently
and a little fertilizer here and there. But your lawn
is well fertilized. I can see, so the tree is
getting nutrients from that. So I think it's just kind
of a flip a coin and make a percentage judgment

(08:32):
call in terms of the safety of it over time.

Speaker 8 (08:37):
Okay, well, thank you, Skip.

Speaker 1 (08:38):
I appreciate your help. You bet, you bet, Thank you
very much. I appreciate appreciate your call. A lot y
f folks. You know, we run into that a lot,
and so trees decay. And maybe I'll talk a little
bit more about that a little bit later this morning
in the show. We're gonna take a little break right
now and I'll be right back. Well, good morning, welcome

(09:00):
back to Guarden Line. Glad to have you with us
this morning. Hey, if you have a question, you'd like
to call in seven to one three two one two
kt r H seven one three two one two k
t RH if your question would be helped by a photo.
You know, I just got through visiting with Mike about
that tree trunk. You know, if he were to just
say call in and go, yeah, I got this tree

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trunk and this kind of looks dead on one side,
and then they're sort of healing. But I'm not gonna
be able to really assess that by a description, but boy,
with a photo, I actually exactly what's going on. You
can call my producer and uh, he will give you
an email to send me a picture. Now that email
is for sending me things related to talking online on guardline.

(09:44):
I'm not able to respond to you know, all the
emails by typing out answers. That's all I would ever
get done. And I do have other endeavors with my work. Anyway,
if you send that and then follow up with a
phone call, we can talk about it on the air
and I can give you a more accurate answer. For example,

(10:04):
I got to weed in my yard and it has
leaves and they're green, and okay, we're not getting anywhere.
Show me a picture of them up close and good
sharp focus, and we will help you. That's what we
want to do. I don't want you to waste your time.
I don't waste your money. I don't want you to
waste environmental issues of you know, spraying all over the
place everything. We just want to help you get a
good quick answer that is gonna be accurate. So that's

(10:27):
how you do it. Nelson. Plant food folks at know
some plant food. They have a number of outstanding products.
You know the turf Star line, there's the Bruce's Brew,
and I don't talk about Bruce's Brew a lot. Bruce's
Brew is kind of a I don't say it's a hybrid.
It's in between an immediate release and a slow release.
Parts of it release pretty quick and then parts of

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it really slowly over time, so you sort of have
a you know, a faster slow release in terms of
the short term, but a nice dragging out of the
of the product over time, which is how you want
to feed the grass. So if you need to get
a good quick boost, it's excellent. You can use it
anytime of the year. Normally we would talk about things
like that in the spring, when we're getting our long going.

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We want the nutrients to be there for it to
wake up and get going, and Bruce's Spreuw is good
for that. But it's good for any time. You could
use it right now, for example, because we don't have
a long time until our fall fertilization. And if your
laun's looking a little peaked, well give it a shot
of Bruce sprew from the folks at Nelson Plant Food.
Good product and it works like it a lot like

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that technology that's in it of the way, it releases
pretty good quick and then a little bit dragging out
over time does a good job. If you haven't been
my Plants for All Seasons in a while, you need
to stop in. They've got a lot of cool stuff
going on there. One of the things about Plants for
All Seasons that I don't talk about a lot that
I think you'd be interested in, is there custom containers.

(11:58):
So I think they call it to trot. You can
go by there and buy a container and buy some
different plants to go in it, and they'll they'll advise
you on what will go well together and tell you
how to do it, or you can have them do
it for you and you just go pick it up,
or they do deliver around that area. Plants for All

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Seasons is on two forty nine Tambul Parkway just north
of Luetta. You can also go by there and you know,
just have them do one that you pick up if
you want to. If you want to go that route.
It's beautiful, beautiful instant color. You got something going on
here in the next couple of weeks, and you want
to get some plants in and looking good and going

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they can do it for you. They take all of
the guesswork out of it. Plants for all seasons, always
stocked up on whatever's good for the season. Two eight, one, three, seven, six,
sixteen forty six two eight one three seven six one
six four six. So I was talking about the fact
that these trees get decay in them, and something that's

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important to know about trees and decay. Trees are living cylinders.
Yes they're solid, but all the interior is not living.
It's dead. It's dead. Wood. On the outside is where
you have the floum and xylum and cambium and all

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those tissues that are taking water up and down from
the soil and from the leaves down to the roots
and so on. And the tree trunk just gets bigger
and bigger as it deposits wood to the inside that
becomes in time dead wood and is no longer translocating nutrients.
That wood is very subject to decay if it's exposed

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to moisture and air and microbes. Okay, so you get
a wound on your tree, and for a while it
just looks like good solid hard wood underneath it. But
then after a while you start to see the decay
you push on it, it's almost a little spongi or
starts to crumble away. And once that decay enters, there's
no fixing decay that you can't like spray something on
it and it stops decaying. It just it just shuts

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it down. It's nature decays wood, that's what it does.
That's why we're not two miles deep in tree trunks
right now from all the trees that have ever grown
on the site where you're living. So maybe two miles
is a little bit exaggeration, but you get the idea.
But the sooner you can get that wound to close over.

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And some people say heal, and trees don't heal. Technically,
what they do is they compartmentalize, They shut off that
decay spot and begin to close over with callous and
that's that lava flow look you see coming back across
as as the cambium. The callous tissues close over. The

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faster you get it to close the better. So if
you've got a little wound, it's gonna happen fast. If
you got a huge wound, it may never close over.
And to the degree that the trunk decays on the inside,
then instead of having a solid surfa for the callus
to crawl across to join from left and right and
close back over. Now it just begins to curl under
because you have this cavity there and there's nothing for it.

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And so that's the process. So why do we say
all that, Well, when you get a good decay going
in a tree that's a weak spot, it'll always be
a weak spot. And if a storm comes and it's
going to push real hard on that tree, either it
could uproot and fall over, which has nothing to do
with the wound, or it could snap off at a
place where it's weak enough. Now, over time, as it

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closes over and builds more and more wooden callous, growing
larger in diameter of the trunk, it gets stronger. And
so most trees have decay inside. You know, you go
out in the forest and see a tree that a
limb fell off of and those are not good pruning cuts.
Excuse me, You're gonna have decay in the inside. So

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that it's not that your tree doesn't have decay, or
because it does somewhere, there's gonna be a little bit
decay in it. But just when it gets to be
two much, that's a concern. It's also the reason why
when we prune, we want to make our pruning decision
sooner rather than later. And listen to me on this.
When you plant a tree, pruning begins, training begins, and

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over the first five years, with good water, some good
decent fertilizer, and proper training, you can really get a
tree well on its way to a nice, strong structure
of beautiful canopy. A lot can happen those first five years.
But if you don't train it as you go, there's branches.

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Unless you buy a pretty large tree, a giant thing
that somebody else has to bring in with a back
hoe or something to lift it into your spot. Unless
you do that, every branch on the tree you buy
pretty much is a branch. It's going to go away,
except the very very top ones. Because think about this.
Go out to a big, beautiful tree in an ice yard.

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How high is the lowest branch. It's way over your head.
You can't even reach it. Probably see what I mean.
So when you buy that tree, stand up, hold your
hand straight up in the air as as you can reach.
Every branch below that is temporary. That doesn't mean you
take them off when you plant it. You leave them
for a while, but before they get too big, you
take them off. You know, ideally, if you take off

(17:22):
a branch when it's an inch, I mean, that's going
to close so fast, and you know, make your head spin.
If you let it get up to about the size
of a golf ball, Okay, that's good. If you get
up to about a coke can, you can still cut
that branch off and it'll close over within usually within
a season if the tree is healthy. But the bigger
it gets, the longer it's going to take to heal over.

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And so you'd rather make printing decisions sooner than later.
You see what I'm saying. So you look at a
plant and if it's a narrow angled branch that is
not doesn't have a good future, you're going to take
it off. If it's going to be super super low,
don't wait until you have to get a chainsaw out
there to take it off. Make those decisions. A good

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arborius knows how to do that. You can learn how
to do that yourself. But when it comes to especially
trees and larger branches and getting up high and stuff,
you need to hire a professional to do that. And
that's why we talk about affordable tree service. Martin spoon Moore,
he knows what he's doing. You know, his company has
been doing this for a very long time. His family's

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been in and for decades and decades doing this business.
You can give him a call. It's seven one three,
six nine nine two six sixty three seven one three,
six nine nine twenty six sixty three, and he knows
how to come out take a look at it. He
can do the assessment. They do everything needed for your tree,
you know, whether it's it's trimming or feeding or anything

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you need to make your tree survive. Remember we're in
storm season. Martin stays busy, so give him a call.
If your tree has not had somebody look at it
in the last few years, you definitely need to call Martin,
have him come out out, take a look at your tree,
make an assessment, make some recommendations. Because the stronger the
structure is when the storm comes. And I said when

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not if. When the storm comes, the stronger the structure is,
the better chance it's going to have to survive, the
better chance it's going to have to survive. And we
do want to make sure that our trees not just survive,
but that they don't drop a limb on something of
value like a house or a car, or god forbid
a person get a good strong structure built. Martin is

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how to do that affordable tree service. Let me give
you that number again, seven one three, six ninety nine
two six sixty three. I was looking at a number
of products from Microlife. In fact, I was visiting with
Mike the other day about some of the products and
things that they have and Microlife's I like their liquid selections,
just lots of good quality products. One that I haven't

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talked about much lately is micro grow liquid AF. Micro
Grow liquid AF has like six different kinds of beneficial
micro in fact, it's more than six that you put
on the plants. They're part of what nature has out
there that you're putting on the plants to strengthen, to
defend against problems, whether it's insects past. Some of them

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make the plant become more insect resistance. Some of them
just are defending the roots against diseases. Micro Grow liquid AF,
you ought to have it on hand. You need to
drench plants in especially you got new plants you're putting
in the ground. Use the micro grow liquid after drench
it in and protect that plant. I'm gonna take a
little break here for the half hour news. If you
would like to give me a call and be first

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You'd like to give me a call. Here's the number
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And here's why you go in there. And it is
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the giant trees that you shop under, so you know,
you stay cool even in the summertime. Going out there
and checking things out in the selection just unbelievable. They

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even have little fairy gardens. Do you know what a
fairy garden is a little miniature garden with little figurines
and things that you typically they have theirs around the
base of a tree. It's just really cool. It is
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that you are looking for to have success. Maybe you
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(22:09):
good products too that you need to go with whatever
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if you're looking for products to give your your plants
a boost. I stopped by the other day and picked
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problem on some of my plants. And you know, they
always they always have good things in stock and good

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people to help you there at Enchanted Forests. They are
here's the website Enchanted Forest RICHMONDTX dot com and Tended
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seven fifty nine between Richmond and Sugarland, just down south
a little bit of Interstate sixty nine. FM twenty seven
fifty nine. It's got to the Galleria area. Now we're

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going to talk about talk to Forest. Hey, Forest, welcome
to Garden Line.

Speaker 10 (22:57):
Thank you.

Speaker 2 (22:58):
Skip.

Speaker 10 (22:59):
I want to to ask you about some things I've
been reading on some of these gardening posts on Facebook
where people were saying, you can cut some of your
tomato vines and put them in water and root them
and propagate them for the next time around.

Speaker 2 (23:17):
Is that a legitimate way to do it.

Speaker 1 (23:23):
Yes, you can do it that way. That is just fine.
You just need you know, when you do that. Typically
you're doing that inside, you know, by a window or
under a light or something, and you just want to
make sure they get adequate light to have continue to
make the carbohydrates in the leaves that they need to
form those roots. What I prefer to do is if

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you if you're outside, got a tomato there and it's
kind of you're wanting to make more tomatoes out of it,
or maybe the old ones got diseases and you want to,
you know, start with afresh, get the end of a
shoot that will reach to the ground somewhere that you
get a vine to go down near the ground, and
you can you can do two things. You can put
it in the soil, or you can put a little

(24:03):
pot beside it and have that vine go down in
the pot and then come back out of the pot.
So just think of it as like your elbow. You're
going to bury your elbow, and part of it is
connected to your body, part of it now is connected
to your hand, right and after it'll root down there
in that buried section, and then you can cut it
loose from the mother plant, and now you've got your

(24:25):
new plant. If it's if you did that in the pot,
you'd already have a potted up plant. If you didn't
want to replant in the same exact spot, that's at
a little hard of your way to get it done.

Speaker 10 (24:37):
Yeah, I just have these tomato plants that have stopped producing,
but they're still alive, and I just hated to dig
them up and start fresh, so I thought I'd try
to take advantage of what I've got. So that's a
great idea.

Speaker 1 (24:49):
Well, I think it's a good that's a good idea
I would if it were me, I would also get
either a spray gun or a bucket of water or
something and take the end of that vine in the
last foot of it, or so slash it really a
lot in a bucket of water just to wash off
spider mites or anything that might be on there, so
that when you root it, you're not bringing the old
problems from the mother vine, you know, into the new plant.

(25:12):
But that'll do it. You're you're off to a good start. Okay,
thank you, sir, appreciate your call. But yes, sir, thanks
a lot, Thanks a lot for that call. It's a
good idea good way to go about doing that. Hey,
Ace Hardware, I was out yesterday cooking up some stuff,
some chicken actually on my Rectag barbecue pellett grow from

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a ACE. That's where I bought mine. Ace Hardware Store,
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We're talking about the brands like Weber and Big Green
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ACE is on Jones Road. To the northwest. Let's see,
let's go northeast. Can m in a Taska seat on
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me on West Willis in Alvin, Texas. And there is
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ACE on I five North and then Single ranch As

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on South Mason out there in Katie. There's a nation
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Let's go to Houston and talk to Curtis. Now, Hey, Curtis,
Welcome to guard Line, Good morning. My question is about
round up.

Speaker 11 (27:22):
I am considering increasing my vegetable garden into an area
that has previously been cleared by using round up, and
I was wanting to know if any of the composted
materials that had been there would and any residual roundup
would be detrimental to the new plants or the fruit

(27:42):
that I'm planning on growing there.

Speaker 10 (27:46):
Now.

Speaker 1 (27:46):
Roundup is it's deadly on green plant parts sprayed onto
green plant parts. Okay, when you when you spray, if
you were to take round up and spray the soil
with it, spray the soil really good with it, and
let it dry out, and come back tomorrow day after
tomorrow and take a little bean seeds and stick them

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down under the soil in the ground, it would not
hurt them. You know, I wouldn't. I wouldn't do it
the day after. But I'm just saying it ties up
the soil. It does break down in time, but it's
not going to affect not going to affect the plants,
especially when you spray weeds and then those weeds take
it in and die. There's not there's not round up

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that if you used even those dead weeds as a
mulch around your plants that it would kill the plant.

Speaker 11 (28:38):
Okay, so there's no problem putting those dead weeds into
my compost pile and you know the residual round up
won't hurt.

Speaker 1 (28:45):
No, Yeah, you can, you can do that. It's there
are herbicides that are very persistent, some of them used
in pastures for cattle and brush control. Those can be
so persistent they mess up your soil for more than
a year. But not in this case. That's not a concern. Okay,

(29:05):
thank you very much, thank you, you bet, thank you Curtis.
The whole idea of pesticide safety's it's a complicated thing.
And when I say that, what I'm saying is every
product is different. They all work kind of different, and
so you need to get one. That is, you need
to understand the products you use. And that's why it's

(29:26):
good the Curtis gave us a call so we could
stay and make sure we're doing the right thing there. Hey,
medina has something called has to grow six twelve six
plant food. I always tell you that when you're going
to plan a plant, drench it in with medina has
to grow six twelve six. That twelve is the higher number.
That's the phosphorus. That's what plants need as they're developing

(29:46):
a good, strong root system. Not to mention a lot
of other program a lot of other of the processes
in the plant Medina grow has to grow. Medina has
to grow six twelve six. It's not going to burn
your plants, not a salt based fertilizer. And you can
use it. I you fold your feet if you want
with it. I like to use it as a drench

(30:07):
around plants. But any way you want to go about it.
It works, and it's from the folks at Medina, and
it's widely available. You don't find it at needs stores
and ace hardware stores, and you're going to find it
at garden centers and nurseries and all kinds of places
around the greater Houston area. Easy to find Medina products
including Hastro Grow six twelve six plant food. Let's take

(30:27):
a little break and we'll come back for the last
segment of the hour. Alrighty, good morning, good morning, welcome
to garden Line. By the way, love to have you
with us. Hey, if you want to give me a call,
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I was taking a look at some of the things
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hometown garden center. I want to say west side, I
mean all the way off past Katie for sure, Berkshire
and on down the road Nelson Water Garden. You get
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you with the local experience and the knowledge to have success.
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It just filled up that area, which I just when
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(32:39):
lot of products and things there, but you just feel
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something like roses or fruit trees or you name it.
They've got it all. It's a full service nursery. Take
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could I get some some fish food for my kids?
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Let's see here we are now gonna go talk to Don.
Hey Don, welcome to garden line.

Speaker 12 (33:31):
Heay skip, thanks to taking my call. Say look, I
got a crown of thorns which was given to my
wife Mother's Day and it's been working, been growing really good.
We transplanted out of the original container and put it
into a large terra cotta pot and I use the succulent,
mixed it with pearlite and we've been maybeing getting taken

(33:55):
care of it. But right now I've got problems with it.
The blooms on it are drawing up and falling off,
and then also the leaves are starting to yellow and
they have small brown spots, and I don't know, I
can't figure it out if it's spider mites or mealy
flies or whatever, and I'm just sort of don't know

(34:19):
the best direction to go on it. Could you help
me in on something there?

Speaker 1 (34:23):
Yeah? Yeah, sure. Most of the time, crown of thorns
issues are water related, typically overwatering or being in a
potting soil that is real mucky. You know, that's just soppy.
The particle size is very small, and it just it
just doesn't drain well, and that gives them root rots,

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which lead to all kinds of above ground issues. It
is not unusual. They're very drop tolerant, but they do
need moisture if you want them to look good, and
they can drop leaves and they can put new leaves on,
and so that's not a super alarm, just that it's
losing the leaves. But I'd watch the soil moisture as
my number one thing that you're looking for. If you

(35:06):
had a thing like a white fly, you'd know that
when you went up you'd see these little white nats
flying up all in the air. I meat eggs are
big and plump and white things all and you'll see them.
They stand out like a sore thumb on the plants.
I don't think you have those things. But if you
want to send me a close up picture, I take
a look at it and see if I see anything else.

(35:27):
But usually it's a water thing for them. If you
drastically change the light exposure to any plant, you know,
you talk about putting it up and getting it set
and stuff. You know, there can be an adjustment for
the plant where you see various kinds of symptoms from that.
But Krona thorns does good in a very bright light
partial sun area. I don't I've never tried to push

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them as far as you know, just how hot, how
how how much sun they get. But most of the
ones I've had have been in apart day sun and
they've been happy with that. Watch that overwatering. Make sure
you get a good course drainage, of course, well drained
putting mix okay.

Speaker 12 (36:07):
Well good will take care of that really easy.

Speaker 8 (36:11):
Uh.

Speaker 12 (36:12):
The next one's on my palm areas. I got four
palm areas, and uh, their leaves are starting to fall
again on those.

Speaker 2 (36:19):
In fact, there I have seen.

Speaker 12 (36:23):
The small, tiny spiders in their web and I've used
insecticide soap on them, and but it seems to you
still I don't know if it's an infestation or again
it could be overwatering, because both my wife and I
we we we tend to want to do that with
these plants, try and make sure that they ll continue on.

Speaker 1 (36:48):
Yeah, let me let me give you a quick answer
on this. I'm about to have to go to a
break here. But it isn't the spiders. If it's truly
a spider with webbing, they're actually out there capturing insects
for you, and they're not a esta. The Plumeria soil saggy,
poorly drained soil conditions are a problem for plume areas,
and so they're almost like a succulent, and that they

(37:09):
store so much water they're in the stems and things
that you don't have to water them all the time,
keep them sopping wet. That actually leads to some problems. Again,
a photo would be the best way for me to
really assess what you're seeing on it. I'm going to
put you on hold and if you would like to
send a photo. My producer will give you an email
where you can send that and I can do a
better job of helping you take it to the next step.

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at attracting and getting rid of mosquitoes in your area.
All righty, well, I'm about to have to run to
take a little break here. I just want to mention
today I'm going to be at Obapalooza. Obapalooza is a
wonderful day of all kinds of educational programming. There's going
to be talks on organic all kinds of things are

(39:00):
in it, composting in small spaces. There's one called pretty
is the easiest thing we do there. I'm going to
be talking about beneficial insects, a key ingredient to sustainable landscapes.
Joe Gardner. If you never heard Joe Lample, Joe Gardner
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He's going to be there. He's can do a keynote
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You need to get out there and check it out.
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the United Way on wad Drive in Houston. Well, welcome back, hey,
welcome back to garden Line. What do you want to
talk about today? We got wide open, wide open here.
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now to Alvin and talk to Helen this morning. Hello Helen,
welcome to garden Line.

Speaker 2 (42:06):
Thank you, thank you.

Speaker 13 (42:07):
I just called the other day, but I didn't notice
this problem till yesterday. Was watering my okay, guardena plant
a house plant. Now, I know there's a French name
for it, you know, when it's really tall and then
you have your leafy round bushy top. But I noticed

(42:30):
some like fuzzy mold on several of the limbs. They
weren't there.

Speaker 1 (42:37):
Okay, okay. Are you seeing it on the little twigs
and branches like where a leaf attaches to a branch?
Or are you seeing it out on the leaves, not
on the leaves, on.

Speaker 13 (42:51):
The branch itself, little you know, the small Okay, I'm walking.

Speaker 14 (42:56):
Toward it right now.

Speaker 1 (43:00):
Okay, well, uh are you there at your pot? You're
looking at it right now? All right? Are you squeam
Are you squeamish, Helen?

Speaker 7 (43:13):
No?

Speaker 1 (43:14):
No, no, okay, I want you to reach out there.
I want you to reach out with a thumb and
forefinger and grab onto one of those white things and
squeeze it and pull it off, and then squeeze it
between your thumb and forefinger and tell me what you see.

Speaker 13 (43:32):
Okay, all right, well say it again. I'm here with
my fingers on it.

Speaker 1 (43:39):
All right. Just just grab grab it, Grab it with
your thumb and forefinger. Just pull one of those off,
Squeeze it and smash it. Rub rub your fingers together,
smash it and tell me what you see on your fingers.

Speaker 5 (43:51):
Okay.

Speaker 9 (43:59):
Well it's kind of all right turned blackish.

Speaker 1 (44:04):
Blackish, Okay, I mean blackish brownish. Okay. Well, uh, you
you've you've yeah, you've eliminated some of the things that
I think it could be. Let's do this. Could you
take a picture with your phone and email it to
me and let me take a look at it and
see what I see on there. It's not powdery, mildew.

(44:27):
It sounds like it's not mealy bugs. So I kind
of need to see what it is that you're seeing
on there. But there should be some little plump bugs
and that white stuff that when you when you kind
of squeeze it and pull it off and smash it,
you ought to see a slimy, pinkish, right, it doesn't
look okay to have bugs. It's okay, let's do this. Yeah, okay,

(44:55):
I got you. Hey, I want to help you accurately,
so I'm going to put you on hold. My producer
going to give you a phone number. I want you
to take some our phone number a email. I want
you to take some close up pictures. Check them before
you send them. Make sure they're focused. The camera hasn't
focused behind the limb. Maybe you have to put your
hand behind the limb. But I want to see what
it looks like and I will be able to help

(45:16):
you from that. Helen, thank you. I'm going to have
to run run on, but I will. We'll get to
a bottom of it. I just need to see a picture.
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now to Rosenberg and we're gonna talk to Brett this morning. Hey, Brett,
welcome to garden Line.

Speaker 7 (46:14):
Than morning.

Speaker 1 (46:17):
Morning.

Speaker 6 (46:17):
Yeah, I've got a I've got an oak tree starting
to have the limbs starting to get like a cocoon
look to them. And uh, I've washed it off with
a pressure wash, just kind of cleaning the lins off,
and it keeps coming back. Is there something I can
do to kind of keep find out what's causing that?

Speaker 1 (46:37):
What does the limb look like?

Speaker 6 (46:40):
Well, the lambs are starting to look like cocoons, like
wrapping cobwebs.

Speaker 1 (46:46):
Oh oh okay, all right, well you I've got good
news for you. Uh that is not a problem. That
is something called bark lice. Now you would think, oh
my gosh, lice or a problem. Nope, they're not here.
Here's what's basically happening. You've got some little insects that
do not feed on the tree. They feed on the
detritus and algae and stuff growing on the trunk of

(47:10):
the tree. So think of them as little vacuum cleaners
cleaning up the trunk for you. That's all it amounts to.
They they'll show up this time of year. They'll also
go away on their own in time. The webbing, you know,
it's I think it's interesting. But if you took a
blast of water, you could blast it away, but there's
no need to. These insects are neither good nor bad.

(47:31):
And you know, if anything, they're out there cleaning up
the trunk for you. They have no interest in your
tree itself. Okay, all right, sorry, that's awesome. Yeah you bet,
Thank you. Good call. First call on that I've had
this year, So that's good. Appreciate that. A lot enchanted

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That's where you'll find enchanted gardens. If you'd like the website,
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I'm telling you, when you go there, it's an unforgettable experience.
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they have is incredible. They're helpful team.

Speaker 7 (48:24):
Well.

Speaker 1 (48:25):
You know, you can bring them a photo or a
sample or something, or you can just tell them what
you want to do. You know, I'd like a container,
but I don't know how to do one, and it
needs to. I want succulents and it needs to. You know,
they can put it all together for you. They know
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(48:47):
soils from Nature's Way, and airloom soils all there at
Enchanted Gardens Chenny Gardens, FM three fifty nine, Chented Gardens,
Richmond dot com. A fun place to go. Were gonna
take a little break and we'll be right back with
your calls. All right, I'm just sitting here watching a
video I took with my phone of one insect eating another. Oh,

(49:11):
it was like watching Jurassic Park is so cool. It's
a pragmented and it had to grab something and oh
my gosh, those things are wicked. Anyway, I guess if
you don't like bad bugs, then that's quite entertaining to
get there what they deserve in our landscapes. Hey, you're

(49:32):
listening to Guardline. I'm your host, Skip Richter, And no,
I'm not totally twisted, but I do like to watch
a bad bug get chomped away by the good guys
out in our landscape. And we can do things to
keep the good guys around too. By the way, that
would be another good thing to discuss here on Guardline.
Maybe I add that to our list of topics. Sometime.

(49:55):
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There's on the west side, there's one on Memorial Drive,
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wild Bird's unlimited. Why do you go there? Will you
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You're going to find blends specifically for bird and blends.
We're one percent of what's in the bag. If it's
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shells open. But the no mess blend they're already cracked
and there's no shells. But every type of seed in
a wild bird's bag is something those birds want to eat.
And you buy cheap bird seed and it is not cheap,
you're paying more because over half of it, well over
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The birds aren't going to be that interested. It's not

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going to work for you. So use a quality wildbirds blend.
While you're there, check out their houses, check out their feeders,
and ask whatever questions you have and they really can help.

Speaker 15 (51:10):
You.

Speaker 1 (51:10):
Take a picture of a bird. If you got one
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in there. Let them take a look at it. They'll
tell you. They'll tell you how to attract every kind
of bird that does well here seasonally. You know we're
about to get the the hummingbirds are coming back through again.
Some of you still have a fear round, but the
hummingbirds are going to be making their trip through coming up,
and you need to be ready for those as well,

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and wild Birds Unlimited can help you do just out.
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(51:54):
store near you. Wildbird's Unlimited. I guess one of our
most fertilizers here in the Greater Houston area is Nitrofoss's
Superturf the Silver Bag Silver Bag. It is a slow
release fertilizer at nineteen four ten, those are the three numbers.
Got an extra boost of nitrogen, but it is in

(52:15):
a form that takes months to fully release, so it's
like you're sitting there hand feeding your grass every day.
That's kind of how it works with Superturf. Whether it's
Saint Augustine bermuter Zoezia. Superturf works. You get out on
mowing that way too, because you're not just giving it
this charge of nitrogen that just kicks everything into gear.
It's not good for the grass to do that anyway.

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Superturf slow release. Where do you get night Foss Products
on Go to Plantation Ace Hardware on three point fifty nine.
Down there in Richmond, Rosenberg Langham Creek Ase Hardware on
five twenty nine. That's right behind Copperfield RCW Nursery, Tumble
Parkway another place you can get them. And then there
is Lake Hardware. There's one down in Angleton on Blasco.
One down include on Dixie Drive. These are all places

(52:59):
at Kerry Knight Foss Products. If you're listening to garden Line,
I'm your host, Skip Richtor and here's a phone number
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Let's talk about the things that are of interest to you,
the things that are of interest to you. I'm going

(53:19):
to be giving a talk today at Oba Palooza. Oba
Palooza is going to be at the United Way on
WAD Drive. It starts at nine o'clock. You can always
listen to me on the radio on your way down there.
You can. You can hear a lot of really good
talks today. Joe Lample is going to be the beginning speaker,

(53:41):
kicking everything off with a wonderful talk on ecological gardening
for beauty and biodiversity. He'll also close things down at
the end of the day growing a Greener world. Stories
that inspire and motivate in the meantime, lots of good
nuts and bolts on aspects of organic gardening, eating and living.

(54:02):
I'll be giving a talk at beneficial insects right after lunch,
a key ingredient and sustainable landscapes. I will tell you
how to identify beneficials you're gonna I was just saying
I was watching a video of but one thing eating another.
I'll show you videos of it. You'll get to actually
watch the carnage and action in your garden. Beneficial insects
a key ingredient. Now you can go to OBA online

(54:23):
dot org. It's a little late to register, but you
just show up there. You can pay at the door.
OBA online dot org, OHBA online dot org. Hope you
come out, you want to experience the whole thing. Got
a great lunch for you, some good breaks, and lots
of vendors too to see there at Obapalooza. Hope you
can join us all right by now. If you've listened

(54:47):
to Garden Line more than once, you've heard me say
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cienamultch dot com. Go there, check it out and take
advantage of their quality stuff. They're closed on Sundays, open
Monday through Saturday, so you can get your foundation set. Hey, uh,
fall planting season is coming. Falls the best planning season
of the year. Now would be an excellent time to
get the soil built. And you're saying, yeah, but it's
hot outside. A little bit at a time, working in

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the mornings, get that soil built and get it ready
so when you put the plants in, they hit the
ground running. Their roots are happy and the plants are happy.
Brown stuff before green stuff. That's how we put it.
You're listening to garden Line. If you'd like to give
me a call seven to one to three two one
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If you're looking for anything for the inside of your home,
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or the place that carries out, but nobody's like Ace.
Ace Hardware has gone from your grandfather's hardware store that
had the plumbing, the pipes, the fittings, the paint the

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you know, electricals, switches and things, to becoming a wonderful
place to shop for all kinds of things, beautifying the home,
decorating in the home, certainly for the outdoors. If you're
a do it yourself for quality hand tools to fit
your budget. You know from Ace themselves. They have their
own brands. They have Milwaukee, they have Stanley Black and

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Decker craftsmen and d wallt They've got you covered on
all these kinds of things. A lot of ACES will
carry the ego Lawnmore's ego ego. I don't know how
you say it, it's e g o. I've got one.
I don't even know how to say it. They work,
they're good, and a lot of ACE stores will carry
those as well. When you go to ACE, you're gonna
find good selection and you are going to find a

(58:15):
very good price as well. Uh and I promise this,
you'll be surprised. It's not your grandfather's hardware store. It's
that and so much, so much more small equipment to
another good thing you find there. Ace Hardware Texas dot com.
That's the website for my great O Way Greater Houston

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area from ACE Hardware Texas. For example, we got stores
down in Port Lavaca on Calhoun Plaza, Rockport, ACE on
Highway thirty five North, Wharton Feed and ACE on Richmond
road Way down south and southwest. Let's go the opposite corner.
I'm got Kilgore's ACE and clear Lake on are clear

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Lake Lumber on East Maine rather Katie Hardware on Pinoak
and Old Town Katie and m a task a seat
on Kingwood Drive. See what I'm talking about. ACE Hardware
Texas dot Com. Go to Acehardware Texas dot com find
out what you're looking for. I am gonna talk a
little bit more about take All root Rot, but I
want to start off just by saying this. I put

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a new publication together. It is about to be put
on the website. Not quite there yet. I'm waiting on
my web guy to get it loaded up. But it's
called Taste take All root Rot, an in depth look.
Just like I did the one on nutsedge that goes
into everything you need to know about nuts edge in
order to understand the weed and effectively get rid of it.

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Take All Root Rot is the same thing. I go
into the details about the disease, what it looks like,
how to tell it from chinchbugs, and everything you need
to know to get control. And it's not just a
chemical answer. There are funges. There is some funges. There
are some fungicides that are effective against take all root rot.
But there's a lot of cult things that we do.
Avoiding stresses to the lawn. That's how take all gets in.

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It's ubiquitous. By the way, if you're listening to me,
you have take all in your lawn. It's just not
killing your lawn. But when the lawn gets weak, take
all moves in and it does kill your lawn. It
takes all. Take all root rot. It kills the roots,
the grass dies. You think it needs watering, You watered.
It doesn't make any difference. That's take All root Rot.
Watch for this online. If you want to email, or

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if you want to call the show, talk to my
producer and give you an email. I'll send you a
copy of it directly. We can do it that way
as well. But just hang on. It's gonna be on
the web, all right, folks, welcome back to guard Line.
What would you like to talk about today? Give me
a call seven one three seven to one three two

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one two fifty eight seventy four seven one three two
one two five eight seven four. Were glad to help
you with any kind of questions that you might have
about gardening. I was talking about take all root Rot
before I left, and I am getting so many questions
about it. Most people don't know what they have. They're saying,

(01:01:08):
what do I have? But take all root rot is
a disease. It's a fungal disease. It's an opportunity opportunist.
It's ubiquitous. It is in your lawn. I had a
state plant pathology researcher on turf turf in other words,
turf diseases. That was a specialty, and they were trying

(01:01:29):
to do a study on the take all root rot.
They wanted to get some turf subjective to take off,
find out what controls it, how it works, and all
that kind of stuff. And he made the samement. He goes,
it's hard to find a lawn that doesn't have to
take all root rot in it. In Texas, especially Saint Augustine,
that's where we see it most. It can attack Bermuda,
it can attack Zouzia, but Saint Augustine is the one

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where we usually see take all root rot. And here's
what looks like. Your lawn starts to yellow, very irregular areas,
not the round spots like large patch or brown patch
in the fall, but irregular areas. And then it goes
from yellow to brown. And you look and the runners
are dead now with brown patch in the cool season

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spring and fall, you see the brown and you think,
oh it's dead. But you look and the runners are alive,
and new green leaves come back on those runners. When
the weather warms up. Take all kills it. It kills
the roots, it kills the grass, and the symptoms look
like drought injury too, because when you don't have roots,
you can't take up water. Even in moist soil. The

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grass is drying out because it can't take up roots.
The yellowing is because it kills roots, and root tips
is where iron is taken up, and when you lose
the root tips, the grass starts to yell. It cannot
take up that iron. And so this is a serious disease.
But it's brought on by stress, and there's a lot
of different kinds of stress that can bring it away.

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It just means stress. So think about it this way.
I don't know if this analogy works for you, but
if you were to do compare two things. Number one,
you go work out, you eat right, you get plenty
of rest, you're taking care of yourself, versus you that
you don't eat right, your stand up all the time,

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no sleep, no, you know your body's getting weaker. On
and on down the line like that, and those two
yous go to the same party and visit with people,
and somebody there probably has, you know, some kind of
cold or something like that. What is which of you
is more likely to get sick? It's the weaker you,
the stress to you, the one whose defensive systems are down.

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That's how it is with your turf. We need to
keep our turf in good, strong health. Another thing that
predisposes to take on root rut is herbicides that stress grass.
Some of the broad leaf products you hear me talk
about celsia sometimes because you can use it when the
temperature is warmer without that full stress. But a lot
of them that worked in spring or fall, you put

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them on when the temperatures the mid eighties and above.
And it's not gonna kill your grass. But you look
at it and you may or may not see, but stress.
It's stress, is it? Typically you will see the results
of stress. Then take all gets a chance to move
in any kind of stress. If it's stress, if it
weakens the grass, take all moves in, and then we
have that problem. So take a look. I'm going to

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be posting this to the website, Take all root, run
and end up. Look. I've also got a video that
will be going out this week on our social media,
so follow us on Facebook and Instagram. By the way,
all right, we're going to run out here to Magnolia
and talk to Robert. Hello, Robert, Welcome to Garden Line.
How you doing?

Speaker 14 (01:04:47):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (01:04:47):
Thank you.

Speaker 15 (01:04:49):
I was just curious.

Speaker 5 (01:04:52):
When I was a kid, I wanted to grow an
apple tree. I don't know how good they grow here
in Texas, but I was eating an apple the other day,
a Peak Lady, and inside the apple the seeds were sprouting,
and they were big sprout, so I actually planted them.
Now I have three plants. Okay, two might make it,

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but I don't know if they're. If they're I'm keeping
them in the house and putting them by the sun.
I can't seem to get them over two inches and
then they just want to lean over.

Speaker 1 (01:05:28):
They need more. They need more light than that. You
need to turn them into a little container and put
them out. Yeah. I would first give them some maybe
six hours of morning sign or just to kind of
get them used to it, and then eventually just full
sun and a container and water. Butt let me say this,
I wouldn't do it if I were you. It's going

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to take those plants years and years before they start
actually fruiting because they've come from seed, not from a
grafted plant. And the variety you get will probably be
too high chill for your area because the mother plant
was too high chill for the area.

Speaker 10 (01:06:07):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:06:07):
And so I think the chances of success. You're gonna
spend a lot of years and you may not be
happy with the results. I'd I would rather see you
just go get an apple tree that's one that you like.
And I know it's fun to plant your own seats.
But yeah, and by the way, the reason they're sprouting
in the in the apple is something called the vipery.
There's the nerd word of the day. The vippery pecans

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do that too. They sprout in the shuck sometimes. So anyway,
but yeah, that that would be my advice to you, Robert, Okay,
all right, I appreciate it, Thank you, Thank you for
your call. You bet, I appreciate that very much. Arborgate awesome,
awesome garden center. If you come to Houston, if you
live near Houston, if you live out at the Louisiana border,

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or let's see wherever I heard I heard kat r
h one time over in New Bromfels, wherever you are,
if you hear my voice. You got to come over
here and see the arbor Gate. It is unbelievable. It
is a gardener's garden center for sure, mile and a
half west of tom Ball in twenty nine to twenty.
They carry everything you can imagine for the season. You

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got there right now, X ask them to see one
of the unbelievable flowers that they have called sun Believable.
Oh my gosh, they are gorgeous and they just bloom
and bloom and bloom. It's something that's kind of new
in the market, but of course Arburgate has it. They
have everything out there. While you there, get there one two,
three completely easy system which is an organic food for

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anything with roots, a soil for any application, and a
compost to improve any and all soil. The latter two
both have expanded shale in them. The latter two the
soil complete and compass complete or available by bulk, and
they will deliver it to you from the arbor Gate.
Let's see, we're going to go now. Oh I'm running
out of time here. Dean and Charlie. We're going to

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take a little quick break here and we will come
to you first when we come back from our break.
All right, folks, welcome back. Good to have you with
us today. Hey, Nature's Way Resources up there toward Conroe.
It's on Interstate forty five actually, just off to the
east where fourteen eighty eight comes in from Magnolia. Instead
of going toward Magnolia, you go the other way across

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the railroad tracks and you're at Sherbrook Circle, which is
Nature's Way's location. Nature's Way Resources dot com. Fungal compost
on sale. It is an incredible price. Just give them
a you know, give them a checkout. Go buy there.
Go to nature's Way Resources dot com. You find the
phone number there, you find the location there, and you're

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gonna find every kind of soil. I was visiting with
John Ferguson yesterday. Specifically, John started the place and grow
it into a everybody knows the top quality one stop
shop for everything you need to garden. Nature's Way to
make your soil better, to make the multius the soul blends,
the composts and so on. Where rosesoil was born, leave
mold compost was born. Now sending in running the place.

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A wonderful staff on there by the way, very knowledgeable,
very hopeful, and you can go out there and pick
it up. You can have them deliver it, or you
can find their products in bags at various area garden centers.
Top quality stuff, brown stuffs before green stuff. Remember, go
to a nature's way and give your chance their best chance.
Give your plants their best chance of success at Nature's

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ray resources. I'm gonna go out now to talk to
Dean out here in Magnolia. Hey, Dean, welcome to garden line.
How can we help today?

Speaker 2 (01:09:35):
Yes, I have a grapefruit tree, a lemon tree, and
an orange tree and they're about two years old. I
guess second summer. Grapefruit tree is doing real well. Orange
tree is doing terrible, and the lemon tree is doing okay.
But it's got new growth on them. They've got new
growth on them and it comes out trivially and it's

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got like a white powder on them. And how do
I take out here of that? Got it.

Speaker 1 (01:10:04):
All right? What that's called is citrus leaf minor. It's
a little fly, like a tiny fly like creature that
lays an egg in the leaf. The larva hatches out
and tunnels between the top and bottom surfaces. And as
that leaf is young and developing, that tunneling causes it
to cup and twist. It causes a silvery loss of

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color into the leaf. Sometimes you'll see little trails through
the leaf. Sometimes it's just so twisted up. If the
tree is young, I would treat it. If the tree
is older, I would ignore it. That's my approach to them.
It doesn't kill the tree. The tree has plenty of
leaves and it only attacks tender new growth. So if
you want to treat it, get some spin nosid spin

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o sad, spin o sad and spray the foliage when
it's starting to come out new. Do it about once
a week. As you have new ten growth, that's when
they attack. That's when the spinosa it soaks in. It
stops the development. It's an organic product. But again for
an older tree, probably no need to really treat it.

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It doesn't appreciably affect production. But on a young tree
it will affect howtastic growth. I'm trying to get it.

Speaker 2 (01:11:19):
Two years old. What do you think about that? Should
I treat.

Speaker 1 (01:11:22):
Those your I would, Yeah, I would. I would do
it for the first three years because, yeah, the first
three years you're trying to get a tree up there
of some size, so you can have oranges and lemons
and grapefruit on them, you know, so so yeah, I would.
I would do it for the first few years, but
as it gets going, I wouldn't worry about it, and
I just put in a little bottle because you're not
spraying the whole tree. You're just going to every shoot

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that's coming out new and squirting those with your little
squirt bottle. I mean, you put in a pump up
spray if you want. But okay, the good luck with that.

Speaker 2 (01:11:52):
The ones that have been ay skip, the ones have
been on there for about three four weeks. Should I
trim those on or treat those?

Speaker 1 (01:12:00):
I wouldn't trumb them off. The insect completes its life
cycle and eats its way out of the leaf, but
I don't. It's too tedious to trim all that off.
Don't worry about that, okay, okay, good, all right, Thank
you appreciate it. You take care you bet you bet Hey.
Leake City feed done in League City. That's the place

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you need to go if you are anywhere down in
that south east region. We're talking about Webster, Clearlake, Dickinson,
San Leone Baycleft, Lamark El Comino Real Santa Fe all
that that whole region down there. League City Feeds your
hometown feed store. They carry the products you hear me
talk about here on cardon line from nitrofoss and Azo
Mighte and Microlife and airloom soils, Nelson plant Food. They

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have that all. If you have pest, weed and disease
control issues that you need to deal with, go by there.
They've got the product you want. It's an old time
feed store, quality pet food. They carry the bags out
for you. Just a great place to visit. League City
feed by the Way is located on Highway three, just
a few blocks south of Highway ninety six there in

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League City, Monday through Saturday nine to six, so you
can swim by after work closed on Sunday. Two eight
one three three two sixteen twelve. Two eight one three
three two sixteen twelve. We're going to go now to
Charlie and Beaumont. Hey Charlie, welcome to garden Line.

Speaker 2 (01:13:21):
Hey skip sure, enjoy the program, Thank you, sir. Okay Uh.

Speaker 4 (01:13:28):
I've I collect leaves from the neighbors when they bag
them up and put them on my multipile, so I
get some pretty good comcosts. Uh, should I good for you?

Speaker 1 (01:13:42):
I've heard uh, pardon, I say good for you. That's
a good practice.

Speaker 4 (01:13:49):
Okay, thanks, it's works real real well. I heard from
a gardener many years ago he said something about sterilized
in your compost. Is there any use in doing things
like that?

Speaker 1 (01:14:08):
No, I would not do that. That is unnecessary. Now,
if you had a like a potting soil or something,
and you didn't want to throw it away, and it
had you had a disease that caused your plants to
shrivel up and die it's a soil disease, like a
root rot, then you could pasteurize that soil and be

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able to reuse it by killing the organisms in it.
And if you're going to take some kind of a
screened compost mix and use it in a seed starting
mix where you have it in a little enclosed area
that stays very humid and moist in there, you know
how you start seed with a low clear cover over them.
You can bring in some diseases that would cause the

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well the death of those And I could see an
excuse for going ahead and pasteurizing some for that, but
in general, don't because nature doesn't do that. Nature drops
leaves on the ground, rocks the leaves that drops, seeds
from the tree above in them, and the seeds sprout
and they grow just fine. So it's not like we

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have to sterilize it.

Speaker 11 (01:15:14):
All.

Speaker 2 (01:15:15):
I got you.

Speaker 1 (01:15:16):
Okay, thanks very much. All right, thanks sir, appreciate the call.
You take care you as well.

Speaker 15 (01:15:24):
Well.

Speaker 1 (01:15:24):
You are listening to Guardline. We're about to take a
top of the hour break here. I want to tell
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Speaker 8 (01:15:31):
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so they show up, do the stuff, give me your money,
They're gone like that. They come in, they do compost
top dressing, and they do core aeration for your lawn.
Price to start around five hundred bucks to do this,
but it's cheaper than putting that a whole new lawn,

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for sure, depending on how far you have to go
and how big your yard is and everything. But they
come in and they do cor aeration. They pop plugs
out of the ground and drop them on the surface
of the ground. That is how you properly errate soil.
Don't just push holes in the ground, but pop a
plug out, drop it on the top. That helps cut
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It helps reduce that and it gets oxygen down there
in the soil and roots thrive. And then they top
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They use only quality products, like they go to Cianams
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They cover the area from Sugarland and Missouri City all
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It's BB Turfpros dot com. Seven one three two three
four fifty five ninety eight we're about to put another

(01:17:20):
hour in the books. This morning is flying. When we
get done here, I'm gonna head over to Obapalooza. I
hope you can join me. I'll be giving a talk
on beneficial insects, a key ingredient in sustainable landscapes. Oba Palooza.
In fact, they kick off registration here and what about
three minutes start at eight o'clock registering. The program kicks

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off at nine and goes all the way to four
o'clock the day, and you're going to hear some talks
that I promise you you will love. They will that
they will change the way you think about gardener All right,
all right, I'm gonna go grab me a cup of coffee,
and we'll be back with your call before too long.

Speaker 7 (01:18:01):
Here.

Speaker 1 (01:18:01):
Thanks for listening to guarden Line. Stay tune all right,

(01:18:40):
Welcome back, Welcome back to the guard Line, folks. Good
to have you with us. Got another hour left in
garden Line this morning, going up till ten o'clock. By
the way, after that, I'm on jumping a car. I'm
gonna head over to Obapalooza. Oba Palooza is an organic
day of really wonderful stuff. Lots of great talks. Joe Gardner,

(01:19:03):
Joe Lample will be doing a keynote at the beginning
and then a closing talk as well. I'll be doing
a program on beneficial insects, key ingredients and a sustainable landscape.
I'm gonna show you videos you're gonna get see beneficial
insects eat other insects. You can go the register there,
pay your fee there, don't try to restaurantline at this

(01:19:24):
late late point. In fact, they've already started their registration
and right now Joe Lample's first talk is being kicked
off there at the United Way in Houston for Oba Palouza.
For those of you who kind of sitting there wondering
what am I going to do today? I got a
great idea. Come on over and see us my talk.
I'd love to have you there. If you would like

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to call into garden line seven one three two one
two k t RH or seven one three two one
two if you wish by number fifty eight seventy four
r CWUT Nursery. They've been opened since I got I
think they opened a night nineteen seventy nine. The Williamson
family still run it. RCW has been a Garden LiLine

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sponsor since gosh back in the bill, Zach John Burrow
and of course r Andy Lemon Day's a long time sponsoring.
We kind of think of them as they get it,
got it nursery, meaning if they don't have it, they'll
do their best to find it. They have great selection.
You know, you're gonna find a roast selection like none other.
They're at RCW Nurseries. They bring in huge selections of

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roses in the springtime and haven't really had roses all year.
Also for trees and shrubs from fifteen gallons up to
two hundred gallons. Ornamental trees, you know, things that flower,
the shade trees, big beautiful shade trees and shrubs. We
had David Williamson on and you know they have Williamson
Tree Farm also up there in their Plannersville and so

(01:20:50):
they grow their own trees. They grow quality trees, the
species that belong here in the Houston area. So when
you go into RCW, you're gonna find x bcellent species,
excellent advice, and they will come out and plant it
for you. You know, if there's a small tree, can
plant yourself as it hits a certain size. If you
ever tried to pick up a twenty five gallon tree, yeah,

(01:21:11):
that's trying. Unless you're interested in putting your kids or
your chiropractors kids through college, I would suggest you have
RCW Nursery come out and do the job for you.
They're at the corner of Tomball Parkway and belt Way
eight RCW Nurseries dot com. We're gonna run out to
the phones first thing here and head to Alvin to
talk to Helen. Well, Hello, Helen, Welcome to garden Line.

Speaker 13 (01:21:35):
I called earlier about the guardenia topiary that had white mold,
and I also took a second closer look. It has
like a fine spiderweb, not the kind of spiderweb you
know that has trings. It's kind of like a fluffy

(01:21:56):
spider web, and with this white mold. So I'm very interested.
It was a Mother's Day gift, very expensive, you know,
little tree in a poll I do have it in
a yeah house, Paul, have you keep bt email.

Speaker 1 (01:22:15):
I did the white or the spidery stuff that is
spider mites. Took me a second third to get the
words out of my mouth, and so for that I
would do a couple of things. First of all, I
would just get a little water, you know those little
spray guns you put on the end of your hose,
and I would just blast that thing, especially upward from

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underneath the leaves. Spray upward, blast off all that webbing
and debris, and you'll get rid of ninety percent of
the spider mites if you do a good thorough job
of blasting all the surfaces. Just blast them away. There's
also a piercing sucking insect on there, and I can't
quite identify it. The focus is a little off on it.
But what you could do is put systemic insecticide into

(01:23:02):
the soil and it will go up in the plant.
So any anything like a lady beetle crawling around the
surface isn't going to be affected by it, but anything
sucking juices out of your guardana will be. And so
if you go to you know, a garden center or
ace hardware store places like that where you're going to
get you know, good quality advice, you're going to be

(01:23:25):
able to find a product that's systemic to go up
in the plant. It could be that their scale insects,
but I can't really tell for sure. In the photo
that's why I would just suggest the systemic you put
it on the soil.

Speaker 5 (01:23:41):
Thank you so much.

Speaker 1 (01:23:44):
All right, thank you for the call, Helen. Appreciate we
get there. I'm glad you sent the picture there. We
could get to the bottom of it, you bet. And
for the spider mites, by the way, there are products
you can use to spray them. But I find that
if you'll just go out, oh about every ten days
and just blast the plants about three three times over
let's say, over a course of a month, about three times,
blast the heck out of them, you'll keep they'll be

(01:24:05):
under control. And they have natural enemies that should keep
them under control for you. But thank you a lot
for that call. I appreciate it. One place you can
get everything, like I was talking about with Hell and
the Southwest Fertilizer. You know, they have a number of
different products. In fact, they have multiple options of anything
you want. If it's fertilizers, I don't know. They probably

(01:24:26):
have two dozen different now they have more than that,
at least three dozen different kinds of fertilizers and things.
If you are looking for a systemic insecticide like I mentioned,
if you're looking for anything to help you have a
successful garden and landscape. Southwest Fertilizer has it that includes
a ninety foot wall of quality tools like Foco brand,

(01:24:46):
Corona brand. You know, the stuff that lasts forever if
you take care of it. The garden seat I talk
about all the time, the thing you use to build
my weed wiper, It's all there at Southwest Fertilizer. I
got shop in the back that can charben your more
blades and fix your small engines. I mean, it's a
one stop shop for all kinds of things. Corner Bissinett
and Runwick at Southwest Fertilizer. Let's now go to We're

(01:25:10):
going to head to Houston and talk to Roger. Hello, Roger,
welcome to guard Line.

Speaker 7 (01:25:15):
Well, good morning. I called you about a couple of
trees I have in my yard. Calling about a couple
of trees I have in my yard that aren't doing well.
There's plan of them two years ago. One is a
crape myrtle and it has black branches on and I
don't know what that is. The other five in the
yard don't have that. And then I have a Vitech

(01:25:36):
tree that the blossoms on it seem to be some
of them are going ahead and budding out, and others
are turning brown and falling apart. I don't know what's
going on there.

Speaker 1 (01:25:47):
Okay, the crpe myrtle, you've got something called probably it's
create myrtle bark scale. That's about ninety percent chance of
it being Craig myrtle bark scale. What it does is
it sucks juices out of the trunks and brain. You
see little white things along the trunk. If you look
at them, it's see a little white spot. So that's
the scale insects, and they suck the sugary juices out,

(01:26:10):
and then out the back end of the bug comes
a sugary water that falls on surfaces. It's like a
mist and city mole grows on it, and that's where
the black comes from. So the black is just a
symptom of the fact that you've got an insect like
that on the plant. That's another one where a systemic
going up in the plant would be a good way
to go. Crapes areneering the end of their bloom season

(01:26:32):
right now, so this would be a good time to
do that kind of a treatment. Great myrtle bark scale
does have natural enemies. I find when we prune craig
myrtle is a lot more than they need to be pruned.
It seems to be worse on them. But that's the
solution to that one. And now as far as the oh,
my gosh, what was the other the other thing that oh,

(01:26:54):
the Vitex. Yeah, I think what you're seeing as vitech seeds.
The bud panicles come out and they bloom, and then
you have these seeds that look sort of like buds
on them. But Vitext is tough. You don't have to
worry about it if you wanted to prune out. If
it's small enough where you can reach them and reach
up and print out. All those seed heads are cut

(01:27:16):
back a little bit on the branches that had them,
it'll send out new branches with more blooms. And you
can keep vitext going on through the summer by cutting
back and getting fresh growth because everywhere vitext has a
shoot at the end is where it'll put a bloom.
So if you have one bloom, you cut it back
and you get a couple of buds that come out,
you have two blooms that follow it up.

Speaker 7 (01:27:36):
Okay, it's about fifteen feet tall, so I won't be
getting up in the top of it. But okay, I
appreciate the information.

Speaker 1 (01:27:46):
Yeah, no problem, just print it in the wintertime and
it'll be good to go.

Speaker 7 (01:27:51):
I was concerned it might be a water issue, whether
it's too much or too little water. But you're saying
that's just a natural anything, then.

Speaker 1 (01:28:00):
Yeah, if it's a water issue, especially too little, you'll
see the tips and margins of those little pointy leaves
burning back, browning back. The tip goes first. That that's
a water sign on that. But thank you. I appreciate
that call. John and Seabrook. We're going to come to
you when we come right back from a break. Welcome
back to the guard Line, folks. Hey, what do you

(01:28:21):
wanna talk about? We'll just leave it wide up. Well,
it's got to be plants. I only can talk about plants.
I was in a yard one time, and actually I
got called on a site visit when I was a
county extensionated and I walked out in the yard. They
had asked me to be there about some kind of
thing wrong with the grass or whatever. And the lady
had called me and asked me to come on out,

(01:28:42):
and she and her husband are stand there in the yard.
And when I walked up, she put her hands on
her hips and she looked at me and she said,
will you tell him that this is such and such
and blah blah blah, And I realized I was brought
there to solve a marriage argument. Basically, I was like, look,
garden advice is free. Marriage advice is three hundred dollars

(01:29:05):
an hour, So what do you wanna do here? Do
you want to get gardening advice or whatever? But anyway, funny,
funny fact. I can tell a lot of stories from
back in those days. Oh boy, unfortunately I can't. You're
listening to garden Line. Give me a call seven one
three two one two fifty eight seventy four. We're gonna
go run out here on the phones now to Seabrook,

(01:29:26):
Texas and talk to John. Hello, John, Welcome to garden Line.

Speaker 2 (01:29:30):
Yeah, thank you.

Speaker 14 (01:29:32):
I redid the landscaping around my pool this last spring,
new soil and new mulch, and it's about seventy five
feet across the front and probably fifteen feet wad.

Speaker 1 (01:29:43):
It's kind of the U shake deal.

Speaker 14 (01:29:44):
My question is I'm getting a lot of I believe
it's asiad at dayflower and graceful spurge growing up. And
we pulled all the weeds out by hand yesterday. And
my question is what can I put down now and
in the future to those weeds at Bay.

Speaker 1 (01:30:06):
Well, the day flower is difficult. It is a it's
it doesn't act like a grass plant, it doesn't act
like a broad leaf. It's a more difficult one to control.
I would have to look and see what would give
you the best shot at it. If it's growing in
the grass, that limits us on what we can use,

(01:30:29):
because you know, we don't want to kill your lawn.
Some things that would not be good for the turf itself.
So I would have to check on that. The spurge
if you if indeed that's that's what you have going
on there. Uh, that is best controlled with a pre
emergent product, And there are a number of different ones.

(01:30:49):
We have the barricade that I talk about all the
time as a pre emergent. There's another one called Gallery
that specifically for broad leaves. Barricade controls broad leaf and
grass seaweeds. Gallery just controls the broadlely weeds. But it
would be put down and watered in to prevent the
problem before it occurs. You'd have to do that sometime
in the early spring in order to get good benefits

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out of it.

Speaker 14 (01:31:14):
Okay, So if I put it down now, since it's
the land, all the weeds are gone, got to put
down the gallery or is a barricade now and have
it do any good for the rest of summer into
the fall.

Speaker 1 (01:31:26):
No, not really, You're going to get very little additional sprouting.
I mean, you could put it down now, but you know,
if you've got the weeds out of there, I don't know.
I'd say it's fifty to fifty to be honest. If
you absolutely don't want any of those weeds, then I
would put it down. I'm talking about the spurge. But
if you're if you, yeah, what are you going to

(01:31:49):
do in that area now that you've cleaned everything out?

Speaker 8 (01:31:51):
Are you?

Speaker 1 (01:31:51):
Are you mulching it? Are you replanting it?

Speaker 11 (01:31:54):
Right?

Speaker 14 (01:31:54):
Well, it has brand new topsoil and maulch in the
fall in the spring, and it has about ten or
fifteen high biscuits along the sands and then some catillily
and things like that. So it's just the open areas
around those plants. It's in the mulch that's where the
asiatic day flowers as well as in the mulch.

Speaker 1 (01:32:15):
Okay, okay, you you know you could try to use
something that kills everything. You know, a glifas spray would
kill everything. You would want to wipe it on the
day day flower so that it doesn't get on the
other plants that are desirable. That's why I have my
weed wiper on my website online for use like that.

(01:32:35):
That would be one approach to it, or hand digging
it as an approach, It's not you know, it's gonna
be an ongoing process. You're not going to just dig
it once and you're all done. But that would be
my advice probably on those areas. As far as the
other A good thick mulch will go a long way
to cutting down on a spurge and some of the
other issues that are coming from seed.

Speaker 14 (01:32:57):
Yeah, we want to put down the freemi, all right,
what could that be?

Speaker 1 (01:33:03):
Well, normally we're putting those down in mid to late February.
For the spurge itself, it's gonna sprout a little bit later,
So if you did it in early March, it would
probably be fine. But I would just do it at
the normal time, because spurge isn't the only weed that'll
come up, and you don't want to have some sprout
by waiting too long to get to them.

Speaker 14 (01:33:23):
Okay, well, thank you very much.

Speaker 1 (01:33:25):
All right, thanks sir, appreciate the call. You take care.
D and D Feed and Supply. They are three miles
west of Highway two forty nine in Tomball, So you
go up to Tomball area, just head out two forty
nine to the west about three miles. There will be
on the left hand side. Now they it's one of
those feed stores that kind of has everything you need.

(01:33:46):
You know, you're gonna get all kinds of livestock feed
and whatnot. Really high quality pet foods, you know, brands
like Victor, Star, Pro Origin or Diamond. They've got all
of that and more. But they have an excellent supply
of all the products that you might use on in
your garden and your landscape, your lawn. For example, they've
got fertilizers from Night to foss and and Nelson plant

(01:34:09):
Food and Microlife, Nelson's turf Star as well as the
Jars Medina plant foodality quality products are there as well.
You're going to find that they have heirloom soils by
the bag also. Uh, it's just a it's just a
good place to go. You're gonna get what you need.
It's easy in, easy out, uh, and the selection is excellent.
Things that a lot of places don't carry they're going

(01:34:30):
to have there. You know, some of these more not
so common products that you might be looking for, you're
going to find a B in D and D. They
do a good job of keeping a good stock of
all of that. Let's head out now to Kingwood. We're
going to talk to James. Hey, James, how are you good, sir?
How can we help?

Speaker 15 (01:34:51):
So? Yesterday I was turning on my hose hose bib
that's right above bed of Laura pedlums, and when I
stuck my head back there, there were untold gazillions of
some sort of gnats or fleas. I don't think they

(01:35:12):
were mosquitoes because they didn't eat me alive, but they
were obviously buzzing, and I don't know if they're hurting anything.
I'd like to get rid of them, but I don't
want to kill my lizards and frogs and other nice
varmints in the yard.

Speaker 1 (01:35:29):
Yeah, James, it doesn't sound like anything that's a pest
of plants based in your description. They weren't white like
a white fly is apparently, or you would have mentioned
that there are little, tiny size mosquitoes. But when you
start to use the word nat, you know that that
sounds like it could be a fung fungus snat. Fungus

(01:35:50):
gnats are like fruit flies. They fly really slow, you know,
they kind of I don't know, they just don't move
really fast. There's other kind of flying creatures that can
very fast, and but those aren't a pest and and
so I would I would not, especially with your concern
about using the products, which is valid, I would not

(01:36:11):
just go out and spray them because they're there. I
don't think they're a reason to control anything unless there's
something that is an aspect of it. You haven't mentioned.

Speaker 15 (01:36:21):
Well, they with my head down in the bush is
you could see them swarming. I mean they were you
could see there was enough of them you could really
see a cloud. And it was a very high pitched
noise obviously from you. I guess them flying.

Speaker 10 (01:36:34):
Uh.

Speaker 15 (01:36:35):
If anything, I would notice that they may that the
spiders may eat them up in your soffets, and then
you get these big you know, what's left of the
nad or the insect after the after the spider eats that.
It would be probably the only maybe downside to have

(01:36:55):
in them.

Speaker 1 (01:36:58):
Yeah, I don't know my approach of these things. If
you know, if it's not a problem, don't don't don't
spray it. But you know, any kind of insex side
would work. But then you're then you're doing what you
you know, were kind of saying you wanted to avoid doing. Uh,
And so I would my gut on it would be
just to let it go. I'm trying to think of

(01:37:18):
you know, there are products that break down really fast,
so you could do a knockdown, but I don't know.
I think nature has a way of balancing itself out.
And if they're not mosquitoes biting you, then my gut
on this is to let it go or you're going
to just have to nuke it with an insecticide, which
I wouldn't recommend, and I don't think you want to
do either. Well.

Speaker 15 (01:37:40):
I appreciate it, alrighty, sir, enjoy the.

Speaker 1 (01:37:43):
Show, all right, you bet, Jay, Thank you, sir. I
appreciate you calling in. Appreciate that very much. We're coming
up on a break here and we'll be back with
you because I got half hour garden Line left today. Say,
if you got some things you like to ask about,
please do call in. Here's a number, got an open
actually right now if you'd like to call in, be
one of the first up when we come back from

(01:38:04):
break seven one three two one two fifty eight seventy four.
I want to remind you of my website, Gardening with
Skip dot com. Gardening with Skip. Please go there, In fact, no,
that would be a good time. Just go there and bookmark,
bookmark the site. You're gonna find my schedules on there.
You're gonna find a lot of educational stuff based on

(01:38:24):
problems and questions we're getting here on garden Line. There's
a good product, a thing on nuts Edge in there.
I'm about to put the one on take our root
rot up there, and you're gonna want to see this
because it gives you a very good overview and tells
you exactly the options that you have. Be right back,
all right, welcome back, Welcome back to the guarden Line.

(01:38:48):
You know we talk about pests and things that each
your plants all the time. You know, I have a
I had some zinias and they were. They're like being
chomped and it wasn't like first I thought, well, it's
just a really hungry caterpillar. I don't know where he
is hiding now, but I thought it was that. I know,
I was out working in the garden and I looked

(01:39:09):
over and text my Golden retriever, one of my Golden retrievers,
he was eating it. He was eating zenias. I don't
know what zenia tastes like. I'm not going to find
out either, but it's like tax give me a break.
What's going on, man? I can't spray for golden retrievers,
so cut that out anyway. I thought i'd share that

(01:39:31):
with you. Yeah. Sweet Green is a product by Nitrofoss
that is an organic immediate release fertilizer. You put it down,
you know, it's like putting out dried molasses. I mean,
that's not exactly what it is, but it's like that
because you put water on it and it just dissolves
away and goes into the soil. Lots of carbon microbes

(01:39:52):
get all excited and happy, and I mean they release
that nitrogen eleven percent, by the way, and your grass
green's up. I think I've told you before or my
neighbor came over the other day and said, I cannot
believe how good that's sweet and your recommended works. It's
really really graining up the lawn and making it look good,
and it is. It is that way. It smells great too.

(01:40:13):
By the way, now you're gonna find sweet Green and
other nitofoss products in places like Acidsinko Ranch aspose's up
in the woodlands. You're going to go up to enchent
or down to chen VARs and Richmond Rosenberg. I say
down because it's a little bit southeaston in Gended for us.
They're going to have nightofoss products there as well. It's
a great product. It works well, and you can give

(01:40:34):
your lawn small amounts of it over time, you know,
if you want to stretch it out, make it, you know,
not just like put it all on at once. I
wouldn't recommend over fertilizing with nitrogen at anytime of the year,
but you can do a little bit now, a little
bit six weeks from now and carry you right up
until your fall fertilization, which is coming up in October
according to my schedule, which is where online gardening with

(01:40:57):
skip dot Com gardening with the skip dot com of
you up there in the Magnolia area on FM twenty
nine seventy eight. Specifically, we're talking about Spring Creek Feed
near Grand Parkway and Highway to fort nine, just a
few minutes away from those. They carry products from nitrofoss
and Microlife and Nelson their turf Star line, the turf

(01:41:20):
Star for fertilizing your lawn from Nelson. They carry a
wide variety of products to control weeds and pests and diseases.
Very friendly, courteous staff, just like you would expect from
a quality feed store. Well this one, these guys are
over the top. You walk in, it's a beautiful, beautiful store.
I mean you look to the left and there's all
the pet foods and things you look and tack and

(01:41:43):
whatnot for your horses. Over to the right is the
garden center. That is the part where you get all
the good stuff to make your lawn and garden more
bountiful and beautiful. Now, if you happen to be a
senior citizen or military, they have special discounts for you.
They special order if you need something they don't carry,
and they do have a delivery service as well, so

(01:42:04):
for those of you and FFA and four age getting
ready to raise some stock show animals for the seasons
that are coming up ahead of us. This is the
place you need to know about and you need to
plug into a spring feed spring creek feed. They'll take
care of you. There again in Magnolia on FM eight,
just northeast of tumbul Let's head out to Montgomery now

(01:42:28):
and we are going to visit with Darryl. Let's see
if I can push the right button. There you go, Hey, Darryl,
Welcome to garden Line.

Speaker 16 (01:42:36):
Hi Skip. What I was talking about is I had
some signal augustine grass put down last year and it
was doing well in spots out there and stuff, but
other spots it kind of gets shorter and shorter and
then it turns yellow and then start seeing dirt. And

(01:43:00):
don't have any pictures to send you. But I was
trying to understand if you might know what's causing it.

Speaker 1 (01:43:09):
Daryl, I'm ninety five percent sure based on what you
described in the time of the year we're in you're
talking about take all root rot. Now. I've put something
together that I'm going to put on my website, But
if I can get you to hang on when we're
done here and let me give my producer your email address.

(01:43:30):
I will send you the publication even before it goes
live online. I'll send you a copy of it. And
because take all is complicated, Basically, it's in all lawns
and when the lawn gets stressed from whatever stress is
it and there's a lot of things compacted, soiled, drought,
certain kinds of herbicide, damage, extreme amounts of shade. I mean,

(01:43:51):
there's a lot of things that can stress your lawn.
And so when it gets stressed, the disease moves in
and then it literally kills the grass. Most of our
other grass diseases do not kill the grass, but this
one does as you can see. But I'll tell you
what to do about it in the publication. It's long.
I could talk for the rest of the show trying

(01:44:11):
to describe everything you would want to do on my schedule.
If you go to my website Gardening with Skip dot com,
there is a publication called Pests, Disease and Weed Management Schedule.
On there you'll find takeof patch on the funge side
row as you go across. From January to December, there's
a time in the spring and a time in the fall,

(01:44:33):
actually two times. We can do it twice in the
fall about a month apart, where you would use a
treatment for it. But there's other things you can do
that are described in that publication. Basically, you're keeping your
soul moist, you're doing there's some micronutrient spray that you
can do. There's something like peat moss that can be
done to help. These are all just holding the grass

(01:44:53):
as good as we can in its current state, helping
it stay alive, and then can do the treatments later
because it kills roots. Uh, it's gonna get worse than
what you see now no matter what you do. And
that is because grass it's looking yellowish right now already
has lost its roots. And all we need is another

(01:45:15):
week or so of one hundred degree temperatures and it's
it dies because it's lost its roots and its connection
to moisture nutrients. Uh, I'm gonna put you on.

Speaker 16 (01:45:28):
It wouldn't be brown patch or anything.

Speaker 1 (01:45:33):
Definitely not. Definitely not, not, not this time of the year.

Speaker 15 (01:45:36):
Not and not.

Speaker 1 (01:45:36):
If you see dead runners. If you look down and
you said dirt, If you look down and you see
dead runners, that's take all root right, okay, okay, I
take all your drought, but but your whole line is
affected by drought.

Speaker 16 (01:45:50):
Yeah, okay, okay, all.

Speaker 1 (01:45:53):
Right, hang on, don't go away. Uh, I'm gonna yeah,
all hundred is gonna pick up here and he will.
He will get uh one hundred get that email for
me and I'll send him what he needs. Well, it's
time for me to take a little bit of break.
I think I'll do that right now, and we will
be back with your calls. All right, welcome back to

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eight ninety three. We're going to go now out to
Clear Lake and talk to Emily this morning. Hello, Emily,
welcome to garden Line.

Speaker 9 (01:47:49):
Well, thank you, hello, how are you today? I'm doing
well that I have a question, please, I'm wondering the
last two years are tomatos have not produce well at all.
I've grown cherry, tomatoes, romano.

Speaker 7 (01:48:06):
And some beef steaks.

Speaker 9 (01:48:07):
I've barely gotten any product. So I'm wondering should I
be planting them earlier.

Speaker 1 (01:48:15):
Because of the heat.

Speaker 9 (01:48:16):
I wonder if this intense heat is it too much
for them?

Speaker 1 (01:48:19):
Absolutely, that is absolutely the case. We try to get
tomatoes planted just we gamble with the last frost basically
on trying to get those tomatoes in the ground. So
you should have those in the ground, and I see
you're in Claire, like you should have in the ground
in March for sure, early March and mid March at
the But the sooner you get them in, the more

(01:48:42):
they grow, the more yield you get. Before it gets hot.
When the days go into the nineties and the nights
are in the upper seventies, the slicers start to not
want to set fruit. And the cherries are a little
bit better, the small fruited grapes and cherries, they're better,
but they don't like super hot either. So you can
hold onto those plants. And when the weather cools off

(01:49:05):
and fall and we get down below those temperatures I
was just talking about, you get some tomato set now,
spring is your better tomato crop. Fall is secondary compared
to spring. But that's the secret. Also, Emily, when you
pick plants, look at what they call daised harvest. Some
tomato plants take ninety days eighty days, you know, to

(01:49:26):
harvest or up in the eighties. If you can get
something that's in the lower seventies or sixties, that is
a tomato that's going to reach harvest faster, and so
you'll have a chance of getting a better yield out
of it. So that's another strategy.

Speaker 9 (01:49:41):
Oh cool, I like these tomatoes just a producing pa
intense heats. Okay, well, that's wonderful, and.

Speaker 1 (01:49:51):
It doesn't it doesn't even have to be intense. You know, tomatoes,
we're picking a big bumper crop in May, late May
and June. But while we're picking those tomatoes already, the
ballooms are struggling to set fruit. Once we get into
that June season.

Speaker 15 (01:50:06):
Yeah, I noticed that.

Speaker 9 (01:50:08):
We'll start all right, so much, you have a wonderful day,
all right now.

Speaker 1 (01:50:12):
Now, if this I don't charge for advice, Emily, But
if this advice, if the advice I gave helps you,
all I ask is for half your tomatoes. Just just half.
That's that's reasonable.

Speaker 9 (01:50:23):
I'll give you.

Speaker 1 (01:50:26):
There you go. You're gonna put me to work pulling weeds.
I'm not gonna come down there and do that. Thank you,
I appreciate it.

Speaker 4 (01:50:32):
Thanks, take care.

Speaker 1 (01:50:35):
All right, you're listening to Garden Line and we are
closing things down here this hour as we reach you know,
the end of our show for today before I head
over to Oba Palooza.

Speaker 10 (01:50:46):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:50:47):
I guess if we had an immediate call, I might
have time to get that. Get that on here. Be
happy to do that if we can't, but it would
have to be pretty fast.

Speaker 9 (01:50:55):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:50:55):
Ciena Maltch I talked about him earlier. Ciena Maultch is
the go to play for all the stuff you need
to create the foundation for success. Listen, don't pop a
poor plant into an unprepared plot. I love saying that
all those peace fix the all first, create a foundation first,
and then you'll have success. The plant will be happy.

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Plants are only as happy as their soil allows them
to be. And the sunshine, sunshine and soil, sunshine and soil.
That's important. So go to Ciena Mulch, call them up.
Go to the website first cienamultch dot com. They're down
south of Houston. Ne're near Highway six and two eighty eight.
Cienamultch dot com. Go buy there. They'll deliver within about

(01:51:38):
twenty miles of the store for a small fee. And
then or you can go by and pick it up
and go pick it up there yourself. You got to
pick up her trailer. But the main thing is just
do it. If you're gonna plant roses, they have rose soil.
If you're gonna plant vegetables, they've got the vegetable and
herb mix from what heirloom soils. Right, I've talked about

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them a lot. Cianamlch has composts. They have everything you
need to have success. But get that set up first
fall this planting season. Now's the time. Don't wait until
you walk home with a plant from the store to
oh yeah, I'm supposed to fix the soil. Get it
ready to go, Get it ready to go, and when
it's time to plant, you will be ready. Your plants

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will be happy. They'll be calling guardline thanking me for
telling you about cienamlch. There you go. I've never had
a call from a plant before, but that would be interesting.
Cianamalch dot com. That's the one you need to know. Well,
we've called about a lot of stuff today. The take
all patch or take all root rot names. Both the

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names apply. It attacks our southern turf grasses. Now the
name changes for some of the other I think they
call it Bermuda grass decline in Bermuda grass. But it's
the same same basic organism.

Speaker 2 (01:52:56):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:52:56):
And in Saint Augustine we call take all root rot.
And it kills lons, it just does. And so you
go out there, if you see, let's do it this way,
I'm gonna do it. We'll real quick cover. I'm getting
a call in here, so I want to save that
for tomorrow. But anyway, if you see yellowing that goes
to brown, that's probably take all. It could be drought.
Drought can cause die back of the grass generally won't

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get the yellowing as much with the drought as we
do with the takeof If you see yellowing turning to browns,
probably it could be tinchbugs. Chinchbugs typically start in a
sunny area where a curb or a driveway or a
sidewalk or some kind of masonry. As they kind of
get going near there and then they move out like
you know, someone through a match and then the fires
burning outward in the yard. That's kind of hot chinchbugs do.

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But on the publication that I'm putting online, I'm putting
it online. It will tell you a little bit about
what to look for, and a video is going to
be following that. Let's head up to Cypress right now
and we're going to talk to Eric. Hello, Eric, Welcome
to garden Line. Hey.

Speaker 16 (01:54:00):
Thanks.

Speaker 3 (01:54:00):
I've got a couple stretches of dirt between bushes in
the front of my house and on the side of
my house that I just kind of keep plowed up,
but they grow weeds and whatnot, and I haven't done
much of a multing job, but I'm wondering what the
best way is to cover it up where you're not
gonna get it weedy. Do you use the black stuff
and just kind of poke it down and then cover
it up and hope for the best, or is there

(01:54:21):
you get a better idea?

Speaker 1 (01:54:22):
Yeah, I don't recommend the fabrics. Initially they work, and
then very quickly you're gonna have mulch on them for appearance.
The mult is decomposing and dust and the seeds are
landing and you just end up with seeds anyway, and
then you got this fabric that's got roots all tangled
in it and it's hard to get it out there.
Multi multi mulch three inches deep. If it's seeds that

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the weeds are coming in from seeds, then mulch will work. Now,
if they're crawling in as perennial plants like bermuda grass
or crawl in from your lawn into your firebeds or something, yeah,
keep it. That's a different thing. Mulch isn't going to
stop that at all, But you gotta spray that. But yeah,
that's that's mult is a secret and your plants, your
shrubs will like it because it'll be slowly creating that

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forest floor environment that they thrive in. So just mulch
by itself, mulch and finer textured. A little finer textured
is better for blocking out light. If it's a chunkier malts,
you're gonna have to put it thicker to thoroughly block
out the light. Finer textured multch tends to decompose faster,

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which for the soil is good, but for you having
to go out and buy more mulch, and put it
down is not good, but that's that's what you want
to do. Just get rid of the ones you have.
Never let weeds come up forrayer. A little weeds start
to come up, you can squirt them a little vinegar
here and there. Just don't get it on your good plants.
Just a squirt, don't drench them. You're not giving them
a bath in it. But keeping the multch thick enough

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is the way. The only place I have weeds in
my garden beds is where, for whatever reason, the mult
gets thin. As long as sunlight hits the soil, you're
gonna have weeds. Sunlight hits will plan.

Speaker 3 (01:56:03):
We had a quick question about dirt when I've bought
several different brands of dirt at the big box store
and it.

Speaker 2 (01:56:09):
Seems like a half bark. Is there any place that
is there any type of dirt that you can buy
that's really all dirt not have bark?

Speaker 1 (01:56:16):
Absolutely, yeah, absolutely, you're there in the Cypress area. You
just run over to our arborgate up in Tomball or
over on two forty nine plants for all seasons. Both
of them have super high quality products that can get.

Speaker 7 (01:56:31):
You fixed up.

Speaker 1 (01:56:32):
Both of those cases real dirt. Arbigate will even deliver
it bulk to your yard. Arburgate will deliver it bulk
to your yard if you're wanting to do a bigger
bed air. Okay, all right, sir, thank you very much.
You bet well. I'd say we used up the show.
All right. I'll be back tomorrow morning six am to

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