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Speaker 1 (00:00):
We are joined by political sultant Bill Miller bell. I
think that maybe, of course, I don't expect a huge
voter turnout for the primaries. I don't suspect you do, either,
But maybe there's going to be more interest in primary
season this year than perhaps we've seen in any other
year in the past, just because there's so much divisiveness
in the parties just trying to get the nomination.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Well, there is, there are quite a few primary fights,
and really what we're left with, and we've been moving
in this direction for a while, is that if you
want to win a primary, you've got to show you've
got a lot of fight. You've got to have more
fight in you than your opponent, and not only fighting
your opponent, but fighting the other party whoever you might
(00:45):
want to focus on. So, yeah, it's it's escalated, it's
in a place, it's a tough place. Primary is a
very very tough thing to do, and incumbents hate them challengers,
you know, relicism. So yeah, that's the season we're coming into. Well,
and we've certainly seen this here in Texas. When it
(01:06):
comes to the Republicans, you have John Cornyn, who I
know how much money you spent on campaign commercials just
for the primary. But it's it's got to be astronomical.
And yet he's still running last I heard, it's still
running a relatively distant third, and he's the incumbent. That's
that's kind of I think you've summed up the whole season.
If you're an incumbent and you don't get out front
(01:27):
on it, or you've somehow lost the affections of your.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
Primary voters, you're going to lose. It's simple.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
It doesn't matter how much money you pour in and
who you pay to strategize. It's you've got to it's
the heart's mind, souls, and and and votes the primary
voters who are going to turn an outcome. And these
are hardcore people. These are people that are believers and
they want to hear what they want to hear.
Speaker 3 (01:55):
They don't want to hear.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
It we're going to make the world a better place.
They want to hear how you're going to punch the
other person in the nose. That's kind of it.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
Okay, so bad year to be an incumbent, regardless of
the party. What about the primaries where you have two people,
neither of which is an incumbent. How does the strategy
work there?
Speaker 2 (02:14):
Well, I think that's that's an interesting question because you know,
the quality of candidate always is important. Some people diminish that,
but the truth is, can you outwork an opponent? You
certainly can and have seen that many in many instances
where you just do more for more people, faster and
better and more effectively and more efficiently than your opponent.
(02:36):
And then in those situations, money really does make a difference.
Willingness to work and go the extra mile, or really
the two things. If you want to separate those races,
you look at money and a willingness to work, and
that's how you really pick a winner.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
And of course everybody's focused here in Texas when it
comes to the Democrat primary on Jazban Crockett and and
the fact that she's been able. Of course, there really
wasn't a standout Democrat candidate before she started to get
into the race. A lot of people are calling her
a sacrificial lamb. But there's a lot in it for
Jasmine Crockett, from the name recognition part to the raising
(03:13):
money part, isn't there.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
I think she's done a pretty remarkable job of raising
her profile in very short order. I always say that
if you want to win in Texas as a Democrat,
don't run as a national Democrat. And she's going to
run as a national Democrat. Whether she's sacrificial or not.
I think her prospects are not great, but I think
she's the kind of candidate that appeals to Democrat primary voters.
(03:39):
And I think whether she succeeds or fails, I think
her future is still pretty bright because she's somehow captured.
She's got lightning in a bottle, if you will. She
knows how to motivate people, to excite people, and there's
a lot to be said for that, and it's not
going to go away. She's a young woman with an
ambitious future.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
But don't you think she is all style and no substance.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
Well, I think there's a lot of soil to her,
for sure.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
I mean I haven't heard her position on any policy really,
I mean, other than hating Donald Trump, it's the only
policy position I've heard.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
Well, that's a good one to have if you're run
a Democratic primary. But I would say this, I don't
think she's been tested on in depth. I think in
a race, a real race, not a primary Democrat primary race,
because she's going to do pretty well just beating up
on Trump. But I think if you're going to win
(04:33):
a general election, you're going to have to show some
depth and understanding of major issues, certainly as the Senate candidate,
and I think she is she ready for that. I
would say there's probably a number, and I'm not picking
on progressive Democrats, but I think there are several progressive
Democrat women who have yet to prove it up in
(04:53):
a way that I think is going to allow them
to go to the next level.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
So we'll see you if you learn, and if she's learning,
she'll be better.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
All right, Bill, thank you appreciate it. Bill Miller, political consultant,
We are joined by political sultant Bill Miller bell. I
think that maybe, of course, I don't expect a huge
voter turnout for the primaries. I don't suspect you do, either,
But maybe there's going to be more interest in primary
season this year than perhaps we've seen in any other
year in the past, just because there's so much divisiveness
in the parties just trying to get the nomination.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Well, there is, there are quite a few primary fights,
and really what we're left with, and we've been moving
in this direction for a while, is that if you
want to win a primary, you've got to show you've
got a lot of fight. You've got to have more
fight in you than your opponent, and not only fighting
your opponent, but fighting the other party whoever you might
(00:45):
want to focus on. So, yeah, it's it's escalated, it's
in a place, it's a tough place. Primary is a
very very tough thing to do, and incumbents hate them challengers,
you know, relicism. So yeah, that's the season we're coming into. Well,
and we've certainly seen this here in Texas. When it
(01:06):
comes to the Republicans, you have John Cornyn, who I
know how much money you spent on campaign commercials just
for the primary. But it's it's got to be astronomical.
And yet he's still running last I heard, it's still
running a relatively distant third, and he's the incumbent. That's
that's kind of I think you've summed up the whole season.
If you're an incumbent and you don't get out front
(01:27):
on it, or you've somehow lost the affections of your.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
Primary voters, you're going to lose. It's simple.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
It doesn't matter how much money you pour in and
who you pay to strategize. It's you've got to it's
the heart's mind, souls, and and and votes the primary
voters who are going to turn an outcome. And these
are hardcore people. These are people that are believers and
they want to hear what they want to hear.
Speaker 3 (01:55):
They don't want to hear.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
It we're going to make the world a better place.
They want to hear how you're going to punch the
other person in the nose. That's kind of it.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
Okay, so bad year to be an incumbent, regardless of
the party. What about the primaries where you have two people,
neither of which is an incumbent. How does the strategy
work there?
Speaker 2 (02:14):
Well, I think that's that's an interesting question because you know,
the quality of candidate always is important. Some people diminish that,
but the truth is, can you outwork an opponent? You
certainly can and have seen that many in many instances
where you just do more for more people, faster and
better and more effectively and more efficiently than your opponent.
(02:36):
And then in those situations, money really does make a difference.
Willingness to work and go the extra mile, or really
the two things. If you want to separate those races,
you look at money and a willingness to work, and
that's how you really pick a winner.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
And of course everybody's focused here in Texas when it
comes to the Democrat primary on Jazban Crockett and and
the fact that she's been able. Of course, there really
wasn't a standout Democrat candidate before she started to get
into the race. A lot of people are calling her
a sacrificial lamb. But there's a lot in it for
Jasmine Crockett, from the name recognition part to the raising
(03:13):
money part, isn't there.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
I think she's done a pretty remarkable job of raising
her profile in very short order. I always say that
if you want to win in Texas as a Democrat,
don't run as a national Democrat. And she's going to
run as a national Democrat. Whether she's sacrificial or not.
I think her prospects are not great, but I think
she's the kind of candidate that appeals to Democrat primary voters.
(03:39):
And I think whether she succeeds or fails, I think
her future is still pretty bright because she's somehow captured.
She's got lightning in a bottle, if you will. She
knows how to motivate people, to excite people, and there's
a lot to be said for that, and it's not
going to go away. She's a young woman with an
ambitious future.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
But don't you think she is all style and no substance.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
Well, I think there's a lot of soil to her,
for sure.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
I mean I haven't heard her position on any policy really,
I mean, other than hating Donald Trump, it's the only
policy position I've heard.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
Well, that's a good one to have if you're run
a Democratic primary. But I would say this, I don't
think she's been tested on in depth. I think in
a race, a real race, not a primary Democrat primary race,
because she's going to do pretty well just beating up
on Trump. But I think if you're going to win
(04:33):
a general election, you're going to have to show some
depth and understanding of major issues, certainly as the Senate candidate,
and I think she is she ready for that. I
would say there's probably a number, and I'm not picking
on progressive Democrats, but I think there are several progressive
Democrat women who have yet to prove it up in
(04:53):
a way that I think is going to allow them
to go to the next level.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
So we'll see you if you learn, and if she's learning,
she'll be better.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
All right, Bill, thank you appreciate it. Bill Miller, political consultant,
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