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May 14, 2025 5 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Seven, twenty two is our time here in Houston's borning news.
All right, Friday night lights high school football in particular.
I'm thinking high school football gets impacted by this more
than well, maybe basketball too. But I wonder, if you know,
we're opening up a big time can of worms if
these Texas bills pass that would allow name image and

(00:23):
likeness compensation for high school athletes. Brent Chapman joins us
NCAA expert and the CEO of my NILA. I could
tell you, Brent, all the things I don't like about
name image like this and what it's done to college football.
I'm just having a hard time imagining taking that down
to like a sixteen year old for example.

Speaker 2 (00:44):
Well, good morning, thanks for having me on. I actually
completely agree with you. It sort of makes sense to
me at the college level because those programs are making
billions or at least millions of dollars on those athletes
through television deals and stuff, so it kind of makes sense,
you know, to pay them actually for what they're doing

(01:04):
on the field. But once you start getting down into
the high school level, I think it definitely changes the
landscape significantly.

Speaker 1 (01:12):
Yeah, I mean they're even talking about going as far
as like middle school, junior high school, depending upon where
you are, like ninth graders for example, I mean you're fifteen,
basically fifteen or sixteen years old. When you're in the
ninth grade, you're probably you're lucky for getting an allowance
from your parents. You don't you haven't learned anything about
financial literacy. Maybe your parents don't know that much about
financial literacy either. The problems that this could potentially cause

(01:37):
seem to outweigh the benefits. What's the motivation behind doing this? Why?
Why would anybody think this is a good idea.

Speaker 2 (01:47):
That's a great question. Well, the way that I can
say it is this is, if you're familiar in the
youth sports world, you'll notice that camps and it's become
a very large business, private coach camps, and it's all
going down into the third, fourth, fifth grade. And I'm
telling you it's not small, it's large. Just go on

(02:08):
Twitter and look there's camp especially in Houston, San Antonio, Dallas,
in this area. I'm in Dallas, right there are tons
of camps to suck these kids in early and tell
them how great they are and how great they're gonna be.
Just in the Dallas area. My son is a class
of twenty twenty nine, which is a rising freshman, and
there are several kids that he plays with and then

(02:30):
around that all already have D one offers. So the
parents in eighth grade, mind you, so the parents are
seeing this as a huge opportunity for them to start
making money now right for the kids. And so I
don't know if that's what driving it, but my guess
is it's the business interest of all the surrounding camps
and the companies and the businesses and the people that

(02:52):
can profit from this. That's likely what's driving a lot
of this podcasts.

Speaker 1 (02:57):
I would imagine, you know, it's still the case, is
not that almost every parent thinks that their child is
special and there's going to be some sort of a
star and is going to make millions of dollars and
it's amazing. And to me, this just kind of extends
this false dream to a lot of people, because you
don't just because you're a great athlete in the ninth
grade or the tenth grade doesn't mean you're going to

(03:18):
necessarily be a great college athlete or a professional football player.

Speaker 2 (03:23):
That's correct, but that's exactly the argument for it. Right,
So today, or let's say ten years ago, I would
only get paid playing football if I need it all
the way to the NFL. Right, that's like zero point
zero one percent of people that play football. Now today,
I can make it to college football, which is like

(03:44):
two percent of people that play football. Right. Well, now,
if I can play high school football and I'm really
great in tenth grade, I can get paid. So now
you're expanding it out. So maybe I don't make it
to college, maybe I don't even make it to the
you know, pros or college, but I can still get
paid because I'm really awesome and in ninth grade. I
think that's what's driving you, right, It's it's bringing it

(04:04):
down in closer to people to be able to compensate
on it.

Speaker 1 (04:07):
Yeah, you know, I had my mixed emotions because at
the college level, you'd like to think that the reward
is getting a degree. Although we if we're going to
be realistic, there's a lot of those athletes that never
get around to getting a degree. They're they're there to
play football. But I'd like to think that at the
high school level, they're there to get a high school
diploma and they're not there to try to make a living.

Speaker 2 (04:28):
Well, I'll give you a great example of what NIL
is causing in high school. So there is a local
receiver here in Dallas. His name is Booby Feaster. He
plays for DeSoto. He was the number one ranked receiver
in the country in class of twenty twenty seven. He
reclassed up to twenty twenty six so he can graduate

(04:51):
this year and go start making NIL.

Speaker 1 (04:53):
Money at the high school level. That's the priority roun. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (05:00):
Yeah, So I'm the number one receiver in twenty twenty seven.
Now I'm the number seven receiver in twenty twenty six.
I'm still going to go to the same power for school, right,
and now I get my NIL a year faster. Wow.

Speaker 1 (05:12):
Okay, it's the world we live in, I guess, Brent.
Thank you, Brent Chapman and caa expert CEO of my
nil pay
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