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Speaker 1 (00:00):
So you've been doing this for a month now. The
government has been shut down. Now you're beginning to feel things.
You're beginning to feel things at the airport if you
are on Snap. Not that many of our listeners are
getting Snap benefits, but if you're on Snap and forty
two million Americans are, then you'll start to notice that too.
And there's some other things that won't be happening now
the month of November is coming around. Joining us to
(00:21):
talk about is Congressman Chip Roy. You know, we've been
talking all morning, Congressman about you know, Snap and how
we have over forty two million Americans on the Snap
program and not all of them are United States citizens,
and not all of them are working. And there's plenty
of other rules changes that maybe could or should happen
to get that number of Snap recipients down. Is this
(00:42):
an opportunity but the government shut down to make some changes.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
Well, great to be on the show. I mean, first
of all, you know, look, let's be very clear, and
I think you know that the Democrats are the ones
that have chosen to shut down. And you know, all
we need are five Democrats in the Senate to join
with us to do what we did over a month ago,
which is fun to continuing resolution through November twentieth. We're
gonna have to now go back and maybe pass one
that's longer because they refuse to do their job. We're
(01:07):
now running the clock out on the November twentieth date.
But to the question of snap benefits, this is the consequence,
right we made reforms in the big beautiful Bill that
the vast majority of the American people wanted us to make.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
We had work requirements in.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
Place, We rooted out a lot of fraud and abuse
by making reforms to the system that would save money
in the long term on SNAP benefits but still provide
benefits to those who most need it. But we still
have significant reforms that we need.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
To look at.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
What percentage of the people on welfare, including SNAP benefits
we're getting those that are saved, foreign born that are
potentially illegal aliens, But certainly this mass of the immigrant
population that has dumped into our country both through illegal
and legal immigration, how many of them are using up
a lot of these resources. There are other reforms we've
(02:00):
got to look at that you're alluding to, that is
getting the lights shown on it by virtue of the shutdown.
And look, I will say this, Democrats are forcing this shutdown.
What that does is forces Donald Trump and my friend
Rusfo who's the head of the Office of Management and Budget,
to prioritize spending and have to go through with a
fine tooth comb. So for me, look, if they want
(02:21):
to play this game, then be careful what you ask for.
We ought to be going through this with a fine
tooth comb and making the reforms that are necessary so
that we're making it more efficient, effective, and affordable, because we're.
Speaker 3 (02:33):
Racking up debt as we speak.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
We cracked the thirty eight trillion dollar mark and we're
still piling on debt, notwithstanding the fact that we made
some good progress in the big beautiful Bill to peel.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
Back some of the wasteful spending.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
I wonder too at this point, you know, obviously your
average Americans, if your average American is going to be
traveling between now and let's say Christmas, if the government
shutdown doesn't get solved, they're going to probably have a
flight delayed or maybe even canceled because of you know
what we have going on with their traffic control and
and and people not showing up for work because they're
(03:07):
not getting a paycheck. Does that put more pressure on
Republicans or does that put more pressure on Democrats?
Speaker 2 (03:15):
Well, look, I think this is going to be one
of those things that plays out. I think Democrats are
starting to see that their positioning on this is not
that popular, and the you know, the polling is showing
that people are realizing we've done our job, We're doing
our part.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
They're refusing.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
And as this continues to unfold and people are getting
hit where TSA is not getting paid, as you say,
traffic starts to pile up them. Look, Thanksgiving that the
most traveled day of the year, Wednesday before Thanksgiving. Oh yeah,
so you're gonna have people getting very frustrated. If lines
are stacking up TSA, if flights are getting canceled, and
(03:51):
then if benefits aren't flowing, if veterans are being impacted,
if you know, some of these snap benefits aren't flowing,
people are gonna be getting frustrated. Now there'll be a
lot of blame game finger pointing. Our position is simple.
We passed a bill. There was a clean funding bill
keeping government funded at current levels, which were the levels
that Joe.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
Biden last approved.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
That's insane for Democrats to say, oh, we're going to
shut down the government over that new Gingridge put it
well when he said, look, the American people don't like shutdowns,
Well look at someone who's been a part of shutdown debates.
You know this from a conservative place where I've said, guys,
I don't want to fund whatever that is. I say,
I've not wanted to fund the implementation of Obamacare. When
(04:33):
Ted Cruz took to the Florida to filibuster for you know,
twenty four hours, I've said I didn't want to fund,
you know, the the mass importation of people with wide
open borders. But okay, they're going into this saying we
we're going to shut down the government because why because
they want to give four hundred billion dollars to insurance companies.
(04:56):
Nobody likes insurance companies so well, subsidies are for people
or not. These subsidies go to insurance companies. And the
hope is that it might affect premiums. But the last
time I checked, all of our premiums have gone up
because it's an inflationary broken system. They're holding us hostage
to a broken healthcare system. And now they're holding the
government hostage to try to play a game to fix
(05:19):
the healthcare system they broke.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
They I don't think that's a winning message for them.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
They seem to think this gives them leverage. Congressman Roy,
how does this give them leverage?
Speaker 2 (05:26):
What they're doing, Well, they're looking for leverage, and they're
they're they're trying to find the leverage, and there's a
difference that doesn't necessarily give them leverage. They don't have
anything to run on next year, that's the simple truth.
And so they're dying to find something. They're trying to
find footing, So they're creating chaos in hopes that they
(05:49):
can land in an area where they can get a
footing to go on offense. They're failing on most every issue.
They've failed on the border, they're failing on the woke stuff.
They're failing on the DEI and the transgender go garbage.
They're failing really on their overseas policy. The president's doing
a great job trying to deliver peace in the Middle
East and other things to position us. So they don't
(06:10):
have much to run on except Donald Trump bad and
oh gosh, let's go try to have a healthcare fight.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
Because we've had some success on that.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
Yeah, well, I think the gig is up in the
American people are going, wait a minute, my healthcare is
really expensive, and I kind of like what the President's doing,
So why are you shutting the government down?
Speaker 1 (06:27):
I hope you're right about that.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
So you're right, Yep, that's where they.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
Are, all right, Congressman. Is always a pleasure. Thank you
for your time, sir. That as Congressman and also candidate
for Attorney General at the Great State of Texas, Chip
Roy
So you've been doing this for a month now. The
government has been shut down. Now you're beginning to feel things.
You're beginning to feel things at the airport if you
are on Snap. Not that many of our listeners are
getting Snap benefits, but if you're on Snap and forty
two million Americans are, then you'll start to notice that too.
And there's some other things that won't be happening now
the month of November is coming around. Joining us to
(00:21):
talk about is Congressman Chip Roy. You know, we've been
talking all morning, Congressman about you know, Snap and how
we have over forty two million Americans on the Snap
program and not all of them are United States citizens,
and not all of them are working. And there's plenty
of other rules changes that maybe could or should happen
to get that number of Snap recipients down. Is this
(00:42):
an opportunity but the government shut down to make some changes.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
Well, great to be on the show. I mean, first
of all, you know, look, let's be very clear, and
I think you know that the Democrats are the ones
that have chosen to shut down. And you know, all
we need are five Democrats in the Senate to join
with us to do what we did over a month ago,
which is fun to continuing resolution through November twentieth. We're
gonna have to now go back and maybe pass one
that's longer because they refuse to do their job. We're
(01:07):
now running the clock out on the November twentieth date.
But to the question of snap benefits, this is the consequence,
right we made reforms in the big beautiful Bill that
the vast majority of the American people wanted us to make.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
We had work requirements in.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
Place, We rooted out a lot of fraud and abuse
by making reforms to the system that would save money
in the long term on SNAP benefits but still provide
benefits to those who most need it. But we still
have significant reforms that we need.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
To look at.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
What percentage of the people on welfare, including SNAP benefits
we're getting those that are saved, foreign born that are
potentially illegal aliens, But certainly this mass of the immigrant
population that has dumped into our country both through illegal
and legal immigration, how many of them are using up
a lot of these resources. There are other reforms we've
(02:00):
got to look at that you're alluding to, that is
getting the lights shown on it by virtue of the shutdown.
And look, I will say this, Democrats are forcing this shutdown.
What that does is forces Donald Trump and my friend
Rusfo who's the head of the Office of Management and Budget,
to prioritize spending and have to go through with a
fine tooth comb. So for me, look, if they want
(02:21):
to play this game, then be careful what you ask for.
We ought to be going through this with a fine
tooth comb and making the reforms that are necessary so
that we're making it more efficient, effective, and affordable, because we're.
Speaker 3 (02:33):
Racking up debt as we speak.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
We cracked the thirty eight trillion dollar mark and we're
still piling on debt, notwithstanding the fact that we made
some good progress in the big beautiful Bill to peel.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
Back some of the wasteful spending.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
I wonder too at this point, you know, obviously your
average Americans, if your average American is going to be
traveling between now and let's say Christmas, if the government
shutdown doesn't get solved, they're going to probably have a
flight delayed or maybe even canceled because of you know
what we have going on with their traffic control and
and and people not showing up for work because they're
(03:07):
not getting a paycheck. Does that put more pressure on
Republicans or does that put more pressure on Democrats?
Speaker 2 (03:15):
Well, look, I think this is going to be one
of those things that plays out. I think Democrats are
starting to see that their positioning on this is not
that popular, and the you know, the polling is showing
that people are realizing we've done our job, We're doing
our part.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
They're refusing.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
And as this continues to unfold and people are getting
hit where TSA is not getting paid, as you say,
traffic starts to pile up them. Look, Thanksgiving that the
most traveled day of the year, Wednesday before Thanksgiving. Oh yeah,
so you're gonna have people getting very frustrated. If lines
are stacking up TSA, if flights are getting canceled, and
(03:51):
then if benefits aren't flowing, if veterans are being impacted,
if you know, some of these snap benefits aren't flowing,
people are gonna be getting frustrated. Now there'll be a
lot of blame game finger pointing. Our position is simple.
We passed a bill. There was a clean funding bill
keeping government funded at current levels, which were the levels
that Joe.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
Biden last approved.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
That's insane for Democrats to say, oh, we're going to
shut down the government over that new Gingridge put it
well when he said, look, the American people don't like shutdowns,
Well look at someone who's been a part of shutdown debates.
You know this from a conservative place where I've said, guys,
I don't want to fund whatever that is. I say,
I've not wanted to fund the implementation of Obamacare. When
(04:33):
Ted Cruz took to the Florida to filibuster for you know,
twenty four hours, I've said I didn't want to fund,
you know, the the mass importation of people with wide
open borders. But okay, they're going into this saying we
we're going to shut down the government because why because
they want to give four hundred billion dollars to insurance companies.
(04:56):
Nobody likes insurance companies so well, subsidies are for people
or not. These subsidies go to insurance companies. And the
hope is that it might affect premiums. But the last
time I checked, all of our premiums have gone up
because it's an inflationary broken system. They're holding us hostage
to a broken healthcare system. And now they're holding the
government hostage to try to play a game to fix
(05:19):
the healthcare system they broke.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
They I don't think that's a winning message for them.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
They seem to think this gives them leverage. Congressman Roy,
how does this give them leverage?
Speaker 2 (05:26):
What they're doing, Well, they're looking for leverage, and they're
they're they're trying to find the leverage, and there's a
difference that doesn't necessarily give them leverage. They don't have
anything to run on next year, that's the simple truth.
And so they're dying to find something. They're trying to
find footing, So they're creating chaos in hopes that they
(05:49):
can land in an area where they can get a
footing to go on offense. They're failing on most every issue.
They've failed on the border, they're failing on the woke stuff.
They're failing on the DEI and the transgender go garbage.
They're failing really on their overseas policy. The president's doing
a great job trying to deliver peace in the Middle
East and other things to position us. So they don't
(06:10):
have much to run on except Donald Trump bad and
oh gosh, let's go try to have a healthcare fight.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
Because we've had some success on that.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
Yeah, well, I think the gig is up in the
American people are going, wait a minute, my healthcare is
really expensive, and I kind of like what the President's doing,
So why are you shutting the government down?
Speaker 1 (06:27):
I hope you're right about that.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
So you're right, Yep, that's where they.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
Are, all right, Congressman. Is always a pleasure. Thank you
for your time, sir. That as Congressman and also candidate
for Attorney General at the Great State of Texas, Chip
Roy
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