Dr. Carol Haynes - Education Expert Joins Houston's Morning News

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Yeah, well that's great, but can you educate a child?
Give a child a great education four days a week?
Doctor Carrol Haynes joins US education expert. I know that
a lot of school systems here in Texas, about two
hundred of them so far, are adopting this, doctor Haynes,
because they're trying to retain teachers. But the question becomes, okay, great,

(00:20):
but what are you doing for the students.

Speaker 2 (00:24):
Yes, you're right, it helps to retain teachers, but you know, Jimmy,
the results are actually mixed on this as far as
the students and academics. And I think that's what's most
important here, and I think that's what you're probably or
most important in talking about, is that you really can
learn as much in a four day week. And just
on the side note, homeschoolers go to school four days

(00:47):
a week with only three to four hours of instruction
and they knock the top out on grades. So as
far as the academics, a lot has to do with
I think personally, with what goes on in that classroom.
But they also need not to reduce the number of hours.
As long as they stay thirty hours and above. They
seem to do just fine, But it also depends on
where it is. Such is the students don't do as

(01:10):
well in the urban areas on four day weeks as
they do in the rural areas, and so we won't
have time to go into that. So all of that
makes a difference. You also see some differences in gender
and a race and authenticity those kinds of things the age.
But overall, what I know and what my experience is

(01:31):
that children can do fine in four days a week,
is how they structure that this instructional days, well, it
really goes on in the classroom.

Speaker 1 (01:39):
I would think, speaking of what's going on in the classroom,
I would think if you are concentrating on the core
curriculum and instead of all these other things that schools
seem to want to get involved with, then that would
certainly help, wouldn't that.

Speaker 2 (01:50):
You know, you just said better than what I was
trying to sort of beat around the bush here. You've
said it precisely. There's so much time that is wasted
in the class Jimmy, that if they would spend it
on actually academics, these kids would be fine. But you
can't spend ten minutes on academics and the rest on
the indoctrination and all of the problems getting them in

(02:12):
and out of the class and time wasted. You don't
waste that time in the home class, homeschool classing, or
even the micro schools. So we can do the same
thing in these public schools. We just have to simply
reorient what we're doing. How do you think what's important?

Speaker 1 (02:26):
How do you think parents will adopt to this because
a lot of them, you know a lot of these
kids come from two parent working households. That's an extra
day that they have to range for daycare or some
other thing, or maybe an extra day that their child's
can be all alone.

Speaker 2 (02:40):
You know, parents say, that's really really not an issue.
So many parents today are actually working at home or
you have multi generational care, and you have the family
networks that are helping out with this, so it's really
not a problem there. And where the four day school,

(03:00):
the four day week school is most important, and where
you see it mostly is in the rural areas well
out there that they're working on the farms and the
ranches and you have the family all around. And also
in the rural areas, the school system is very often
one of the largest employers there, So if the school
is shut down one day, a lot of adults are

(03:21):
shut down that day in their home with their kids,
so this child care doesn't seem to be the issue.

Speaker 1 (03:27):
Okay, well, that's good to hear and thanks for your
time this morning. Always good to hear from you. Doctor
Carol Ane's education expert