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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Okay to education. Now, talk a little bit about the
state Board of Education weighing a whole lot of curriculum
programs and a debate on whether or not the curriculum
should be online, should or not online necessarily but digital?
How many screen hours do we need our kids to have?
They have plenty of them on their own. Do we
need them in classrooms as well? Or can we read
actual books? Doctor Carrol Hans is an education expert with
(00:22):
some thoughts on this sporus.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Good morning, doctor, good morning.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
Okay, So debate shifting away According to the Texas Scorecard
report on this from the materials and toward whether or
not the digital heavy curriculus should be encouraged at all.
Should kids be reading and doing all of their lessons
on screens as opposed to good old fashioned pencil and paper.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
No, they should not be on the digital learning. They
should be old fashion pencil and paper. But the question
has been is Texas moving toward digital learning? But let's
clarify that Texas public schools are already heavily engaged in
digital learning and twenty nineteen, the Texas legislature actually expanded
digital learning in K through twelve despite the fact that
(01:06):
this lord academic achievement created psychological issues and the TEA
though is moving away from digital learning back to print materials.
When they wrote last year the Blue Bony K through
five Reading and Language Arts, our commissioner Mike Marath advocates
print learning. So the children have so many problems that
(01:26):
come have come out of digital learning. They have increased aggression, ADHD, anxiety,
screen addiction, depression to psychosis. Even their reading comprehension has
declined and they no longer read for pleasure very much.
And this is really critical because of reading develops imagination, induction, reflection,
(01:50):
critical thinking vocabulary. So it's really a huge problem. We
need to get to print. In fact, the parents of
the Can Valley, the least they are the billionaires, send
their children to a school that bans computers period none
for them. They know the problem.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
Yeah, and boy, that was a long list of cornucopia
problems you said that are happening because of the increased
screen time that so many kids have, and that is
a problem. However, this is you know, one of those
things where they'll say this is advancement. This would be
like saying, no, let's get rid of those automobiles. They're dangerous.
Let's go back to horses and buggies because they're much safer.
Maybe so, but they're not going to advance us from
(02:31):
in terms of you know, productivity. So is there a
realistic chance that we can somehow actually reverse the trend
that we are on in terms of digital learning?
Speaker 2 (02:41):
I think show a boy people being more aware and
parents are pulling their children out of the public schools,
which is for the huge problem is because let's say
that at Tech owns public education. Google actually trains and
certifies public school teachers to sell Google products to their
own school district at taxpayers expense. Well, so many of
the parents are pulling their children out of public schools
(03:03):
and they're putting them on print materials in their homeschooling,
in their micro schools, in private schools. So, yes, there
is there is a way back.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
And that is important to note, because it's really important
that you bring it up that it is public schools. Now,
not everybody can afford a private school, but you know,
there are some non tuition charter charter schools that are
expanding all across the country. And as you mentioned homeschooling,
are you seeing much of a trend toward homeschooling.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
Huge trend. It's a huge trend. In fact, in Florida,
fifty percent of the students that have already left the
public schools. We've had a huge increase in public schools
and story in homeschooling. There's twenty twenty since the schools
were shut down. Yes, there's a huge In fact, they're
saying within just a few short years, one third of
(03:48):
the students will be homeschooled.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
Well, that is a positive development for many, and you know,
the sad part about it, too, doctor, is that there
are probably a lot of moms and dads who would
like to do homeschooling but who don't have the ability
because either both parents work in order to make ends meet.
That's a big problem for many and others. You know,
maybe I was in school thirty years ago and I
really don't remember enough to be able to teach it.
So there's a you know, there's an ability aspect too.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
Well, there's so many materials out there now that parents
don't have to worry about whether or not they can
teach it. That the materials are there to help parents
into coach them. So even teachers say I can't teach
my child. They can teach a room of thirty a
classroom to thirty, but they can't teach two children at home.
It's psychological. But there's so many materials out there now.
(04:35):
There's no reason why parents can't homeschool their children. But
they don't even have to necessarily do it themselves. They
can band together with others in a co op and
parents can can fill in. And the micro schools, there
are lots of options, lots of them.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
I love I love that message. That is optimistic, and
I really am glad you're getting that message out there
to parents because getting kids out of government run schools
to me, is crucial you know, for their their development
and quite frankly for us side development. That's just my
personal opinion about the state of government schools right now.
So the more parents who can get involved and do
it that way, the better, Doctor Carol Hanes, Education expert. Doctor,
(05:09):
thank you for your insights this morning. We appreciate your time.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
Thank you for having me
Okay to education. Now, talk a little bit about the
state Board of Education weighing a whole lot of curriculum
programs and a debate on whether or not the curriculum
should be online, should or not online necessarily but digital?
How many screen hours do we need our kids to have?
They have plenty of them on their own. Do we
need them in classrooms as well? Or can we read
actual books? Doctor Carrol Hans is an education expert with
(00:22):
some thoughts on this sporus.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Good morning, doctor, good morning.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
Okay, So debate shifting away According to the Texas Scorecard
report on this from the materials and toward whether or
not the digital heavy curriculus should be encouraged at all.
Should kids be reading and doing all of their lessons
on screens as opposed to good old fashioned pencil and paper.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
No, they should not be on the digital learning. They
should be old fashion pencil and paper. But the question
has been is Texas moving toward digital learning? But let's
clarify that Texas public schools are already heavily engaged in
digital learning and twenty nineteen, the Texas legislature actually expanded
digital learning in K through twelve despite the fact that
(01:06):
this lord academic achievement created psychological issues and the TEA
though is moving away from digital learning back to print materials.
When they wrote last year the Blue Bony K through
five Reading and Language Arts, our commissioner Mike Marath advocates
print learning. So the children have so many problems that
(01:26):
come have come out of digital learning. They have increased aggression, ADHD, anxiety,
screen addiction, depression to psychosis. Even their reading comprehension has
declined and they no longer read for pleasure very much.
And this is really critical because of reading develops imagination, induction, reflection,
(01:50):
critical thinking vocabulary. So it's really a huge problem. We
need to get to print. In fact, the parents of
the Can Valley, the least they are the billionaires, send
their children to a school that bans computers period none
for them. They know the problem.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
Yeah, and boy, that was a long list of cornucopia
problems you said that are happening because of the increased
screen time that so many kids have, and that is
a problem. However, this is you know, one of those
things where they'll say this is advancement. This would be
like saying, no, let's get rid of those automobiles. They're dangerous.
Let's go back to horses and buggies because they're much safer.
Maybe so, but they're not going to advance us from
(02:31):
in terms of you know, productivity. So is there a
realistic chance that we can somehow actually reverse the trend
that we are on in terms of digital learning?
Speaker 2 (02:41):
I think show a boy people being more aware and
parents are pulling their children out of the public schools,
which is for the huge problem is because let's say
that at Tech owns public education. Google actually trains and
certifies public school teachers to sell Google products to their
own school district at taxpayers expense. Well, so many of
the parents are pulling their children out of public schools
(03:03):
and they're putting them on print materials in their homeschooling,
in their micro schools, in private schools. So, yes, there
is there is a way back.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
And that is important to note, because it's really important
that you bring it up that it is public schools. Now,
not everybody can afford a private school, but you know,
there are some non tuition charter charter schools that are
expanding all across the country. And as you mentioned homeschooling,
are you seeing much of a trend toward homeschooling.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
Huge trend. It's a huge trend. In fact, in Florida,
fifty percent of the students that have already left the
public schools. We've had a huge increase in public schools
and story in homeschooling. There's twenty twenty since the schools
were shut down. Yes, there's a huge In fact, they're
saying within just a few short years, one third of
(03:48):
the students will be homeschooled.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
Well, that is a positive development for many, and you know,
the sad part about it, too, doctor, is that there
are probably a lot of moms and dads who would
like to do homeschooling but who don't have the ability
because either both parents work in order to make ends meet.
That's a big problem for many and others. You know,
maybe I was in school thirty years ago and I
really don't remember enough to be able to teach it.
So there's a you know, there's an ability aspect too.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
Well, there's so many materials out there now that parents
don't have to worry about whether or not they can
teach it. That the materials are there to help parents
into coach them. So even teachers say I can't teach
my child. They can teach a room of thirty a
classroom to thirty, but they can't teach two children at home.
It's psychological. But there's so many materials out there now.
(04:35):
There's no reason why parents can't homeschool their children. But
they don't even have to necessarily do it themselves. They
can band together with others in a co op and
parents can can fill in. And the micro schools, there
are lots of options, lots of them.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
I love I love that message. That is optimistic, and
I really am glad you're getting that message out there
to parents because getting kids out of government run schools
to me, is crucial you know, for their their development
and quite frankly for us side development. That's just my
personal opinion about the state of government schools right now.
So the more parents who can get involved and do
it that way, the better, Doctor Carol Hanes, Education expert. Doctor,
(05:09):
thank you for your insights this morning. We appreciate your time.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
Thank you for having me
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