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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I don't care how the teacher looks. I care more
about how the teacher thinks. Six twenty three, here on
Houston's War News, doctor Carol Haynes joins this education policy expert. Evidently,
Oklahoma is going to begin teaching testing teachers from New
York and California on their ideology. I guess you could
probably cheat at that, says though, couldn't you, Doctor Haynes.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
You know, I've wondered about that. If they can't, because
they're already putting out some of the answers to it,
and so they are could they very well couldn't memorize us.
I think it will come home to haunt them. But
you know, Jimmy, this is not really uncommon. But this
is actually I say it's a it's a it's a
page out of the left playbook. Because up in Illinois,
(00:47):
several years ago, they passed a law that teachers have
to teach action civics to maintain their license. It's called
action Civics, but it really they're disguising it as American civics.
And they used a classroom for comunity, organizing and recruiting
a Marxist army. Now here's the thing. Those hypocritical left
thinks it's okay to link that to teaching and to
(01:10):
getting a teacher's license and kicking that license. But they
find a rage if we say we're going to be
checking you to see if you're going to be putting
ideological values into our classroom. TENA Ellsworth, who's president of
the National Council from Social Studies, even says, you know,
it's imposing an ideological test to become a teacher in
our great democracy, anesthetical to our constitutional values. When John Waldron,
(01:36):
who is a state representative, their calls of political posturing,
he says, teachers will will not even come. Well that
we already have a teacher shortage. But we know it's
not because of this. It's because they don't want to
be in a classroom where there's all of this progressivism.
So here's my question. If they can do it in
the liberal States, how come we in the rest states
(01:58):
are not able to do this? Why have we not
had the backbone to do this? So if they memorize
the answers there, we just can simply keep on putting
in more test questions and sooner or later they will
get tripped up. Let me back.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
Let me ask you this though, just from an employment
aspect here, regardless of what your political affiliation is, do
you believe it's legal to hire or not hire people
based on their political ideology.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
Well, it doesn't seem to be a real problem in
the Blue states. We only worry about it. In the
Red states. We're more concerned about whether it is legal.
And yes, it will go to court. I mean, there's
no doubt about that. However, if you go to work
for a company, let's say you go to work for Walmart,
they're going to expect you to follow what they want
you to do and what they want you to say
(02:48):
while you're there. Otherwise you're not going to continue to
be there. And teachers will say, well, you're violating my
First Amendment rights to tell me what I can't and
can't teach in the classroom. Yes, but it's a public
money who is paying you to stay there, and if
you don't want to violate it, then leave.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
I would think too. The other thing that you would
need to do, doctor Haynes, is you would need to
give this test to any incoming teacher, regardless of what
state they're coming from. There are conservatives, they're not toummon.
But there are conservatives in New York and California and
they they might be moving to Oklahoma because they're trying
to get away from all the progressive policies.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
I think not only should we do it as you said,
for the Blue states, but we should do it across
the board, and we should make sure we even do
it within Texas. When we have new people coming up,
they're new teachers, so it should be across the board
that everybody takes it that they're going to teach our
values within our classrooms in America.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
Interesting.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
I think it's a brilliant idea.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
All right, well, doctor Haynes, thank you for sharing that
with us. We appreciate it. Education policy expert, doctor Carol
Haynes
I don't care how the teacher looks. I care more
about how the teacher thinks. Six twenty three, here on
Houston's War News, doctor Carol Haynes joins this education policy expert. Evidently,
Oklahoma is going to begin teaching testing teachers from New
York and California on their ideology. I guess you could
probably cheat at that, says though, couldn't you, Doctor Haynes.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
You know, I've wondered about that. If they can't, because
they're already putting out some of the answers to it,
and so they are could they very well couldn't memorize us.
I think it will come home to haunt them. But
you know, Jimmy, this is not really uncommon. But this
is actually I say it's a it's a it's a
page out of the left playbook. Because up in Illinois,
(00:47):
several years ago, they passed a law that teachers have
to teach action civics to maintain their license. It's called
action Civics, but it really they're disguising it as American civics.
And they used a classroom for comunity, organizing and recruiting
a Marxist army. Now here's the thing. Those hypocritical left
thinks it's okay to link that to teaching and to
(01:10):
getting a teacher's license and kicking that license. But they
find a rage if we say we're going to be
checking you to see if you're going to be putting
ideological values into our classroom. TENA Ellsworth, who's president of
the National Council from Social Studies, even says, you know,
it's imposing an ideological test to become a teacher in
our great democracy, anesthetical to our constitutional values. When John Waldron,
(01:36):
who is a state representative, their calls of political posturing,
he says, teachers will will not even come. Well that
we already have a teacher shortage. But we know it's
not because of this. It's because they don't want to
be in a classroom where there's all of this progressivism.
So here's my question. If they can do it in
the liberal States, how come we in the rest states
(01:58):
are not able to do this? Why have we not
had the backbone to do this? So if they memorize
the answers there, we just can simply keep on putting
in more test questions and sooner or later they will
get tripped up. Let me back.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
Let me ask you this though, just from an employment
aspect here, regardless of what your political affiliation is, do
you believe it's legal to hire or not hire people
based on their political ideology.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
Well, it doesn't seem to be a real problem in
the Blue states. We only worry about it. In the
Red states. We're more concerned about whether it is legal.
And yes, it will go to court. I mean, there's
no doubt about that. However, if you go to work
for a company, let's say you go to work for Walmart,
they're going to expect you to follow what they want
you to do and what they want you to say
(02:48):
while you're there. Otherwise you're not going to continue to
be there. And teachers will say, well, you're violating my
First Amendment rights to tell me what I can't and
can't teach in the classroom. Yes, but it's a public
money who is paying you to stay there, and if
you don't want to violate it, then leave.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
I would think too. The other thing that you would
need to do, doctor Haynes, is you would need to
give this test to any incoming teacher, regardless of what
state they're coming from. There are conservatives, they're not toummon.
But there are conservatives in New York and California and
they they might be moving to Oklahoma because they're trying
to get away from all the progressive policies.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
I think not only should we do it as you said,
for the Blue states, but we should do it across
the board, and we should make sure we even do
it within Texas. When we have new people coming up,
they're new teachers, so it should be across the board
that everybody takes it that they're going to teach our
values within our classrooms in America.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
Interesting.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
I think it's a brilliant idea.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
All right, well, doctor Haynes, thank you for sharing that
with us. We appreciate it. Education policy expert, doctor Carol
Haynes
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