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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Five point fifty two our time here in Houston's Morning news. Right,
we got a lawyer, no guns or money this morning,
but we do have an attorney that's done in Biles,
ready to talk about what happened yesterday in New York
where Judge Marshawn. I think a lot of people thought
that the entire thing would end up getting dismissed yesterday.
That's not what happened, counselor No.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
No, Unfortunately, this is a now goes on and lives forever.
I guess.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
So what we're talking about here is at least what
Alvin Bragg wants is basically, he wants a four year
delay while Trump serves out his term in office, and
then wants to reserve the right to sentence him as
soon as he's done being president. Am I understanding that correctly?
Speaker 2 (00:44):
All that's correct? But even if that happens, it probably
goes on for years more because he's gonna have to
decide the immunity issue before he gets the sentencing, which
probably leads to an immediate appeal, and then all the
way back up and back down It would feel likely
go on for which is why I think this case
against just dies some slow death.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
So that being the case, do you think this decision
was made to save face? Does Album Bragg think he's
saving face by doing this?
Speaker 2 (01:13):
Yes, it seems suggest It suggests to me yet again
that this is a game. Uh, and that this way
he doesn't have to lose, and he can claim that
the jury convicted. For the next four years he can
continue to say, well, the jury convicted, didn't and so
it's still hanging out there and he doesn't have to
dismiss it or lose right away, and against it. Probably
(01:35):
he moves on, has some other position and then it
just it dies, it gets dismissed or what have you.
Four year.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
Now, technically is he a convicted fella? Because my understanding
is is that you aren't really convicted until your sentence.
Is that true?
Speaker 2 (01:54):
Yeah, So this depends on look. I happen to agree,
as a technical legal matter that what he was was
found guilty by a jury, but he has not yet
been convicted because the judge has not entered a judgment. Uh,
and therefore he is not yet convicted. But in normal
human conversations this is a lawyers speak, I would say
(02:15):
he's not been convicted, But that's not how normal people
just talk about this, right, they would say, well, Jerry
convicted him. I don't think that's really the right way
to say it, but that's how non lawyers would speak.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
Is there a statute of limitations? It seems it seems
like there ought to be subservice statute of limitations on
how long you could take a case like this and
drag it out.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
Well, no, there's a statute of limitations on how long
you can wait until you proceed to until you initiate
the case. But but now as to how long this takes.
And as I understand it, I think Trump has agreed
to this day as well, because of course it makes
sense from his perspective too. I mean, in the day,
he needs to get to being president and that not
(02:57):
have this out there, and he needs to worry about
the country and not have to worry about these things.
And at the end of the day, this case privately
just dies to slow death that goes away and then
and he can move on and leave this country.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
Now, from a practical standpoint, could Alvin Braggan the judges
have decided that they were going to go ahead and
sentence him and then let this thing go to the
Supreme court let them decide whether or not he actually
could be sentenced.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
Yes, they could have done it. They could have gone
that back in October or I think it was October
where he was supposed to have been decided before he
pushed that off. They could have done it, I think
for good reasons. Well I don't know about their reasons,
but thankfully it didn't. I mean, the jage said he
didn't want anybody thinking it was election interference, and it
probably would have been uh to have done that. It
(03:46):
wouldn't have been right to do it, but they could have.
They would have needed to do rightly that. The way
that would have worked is they should have decided the
immunity issue and then Trump should have been entitled to
take an immediate peal. How that decided didn't come back
down and do this. But the way you once had
it set up where it was the next day of
two days after the decision on immunity, it seemed like
(04:07):
the judge was going to try to get to the
punishment phase before Trump could get his appeal game. But
but I don't know.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
Interesting stuff. Thank you, sir, appreciate it. Tony Dunnan Biles
joining us here on news radio seven forty k trh
Five point fifty two our time here in Houston's Morning news. Right,
we got a lawyer, no guns or money this morning,
but we do have an attorney that's done in Biles,
ready to talk about what happened yesterday in New York
where Judge Marshawn. I think a lot of people thought
that the entire thing would end up getting dismissed yesterday.
That's not what happened, counselor No.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
No, Unfortunately, this is a now goes on and lives forever.
I guess.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
So what we're talking about here is at least what
Alvin Bragg wants is basically, he wants a four year
delay while Trump serves out his term in office, and
then wants to reserve the right to sentence him as
soon as he's done being president. Am I understanding that correctly?
Speaker 2 (00:44):
All that's correct? But even if that happens, it probably
goes on for years more because he's gonna have to
decide the immunity issue before he gets the sentencing, which
probably leads to an immediate appeal, and then all the
way back up and back down It would feel likely
go on for which is why I think this case
against just dies some slow death.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
So that being the case, do you think this decision
was made to save face? Does Album Bragg think he's
saving face by doing this?
Speaker 2 (01:13):
Yes, it seems suggest It suggests to me yet again
that this is a game. Uh, and that this way
he doesn't have to lose, and he can claim that
the jury convicted. For the next four years he can
continue to say, well, the jury convicted, didn't and so
it's still hanging out there and he doesn't have to
dismiss it or lose right away, and against it. Probably
(01:35):
he moves on, has some other position and then it
just it dies, it gets dismissed or what have you.
Four year.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
Now, technically is he a convicted fella? Because my understanding
is is that you aren't really convicted until your sentence.
Is that true?
Speaker 2 (01:54):
Yeah, So this depends on look. I happen to agree,
as a technical legal matter that what he was was
found guilty by a jury, but he has not yet
been convicted because the judge has not entered a judgment. Uh,
and therefore he is not yet convicted. But in normal
human conversations this is a lawyers speak, I would say
(02:15):
he's not been convicted, But that's not how normal people
just talk about this, right, they would say, well, Jerry
convicted him. I don't think that's really the right way
to say it, but that's how non lawyers would speak.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
Is there a statute of limitations? It seems it seems
like there ought to be subservice statute of limitations on
how long you could take a case like this and
drag it out.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
Well, no, there's a statute of limitations on how long
you can wait until you proceed to until you initiate
the case. But but now as to how long this takes.
And as I understand it, I think Trump has agreed
to this day as well, because of course it makes
sense from his perspective too. I mean, in the day,
he needs to get to being president and that not
(02:57):
have this out there, and he needs to worry about
the country and not have to worry about these things.
And at the end of the day, this case privately
just dies to slow death that goes away and then
and he can move on and leave this country.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
Now, from a practical standpoint, could Alvin Braggan the judges
have decided that they were going to go ahead and
sentence him and then let this thing go to the
Supreme court let them decide whether or not he actually
could be sentenced.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
Yes, they could have done it. They could have gone
that back in October or I think it was October
where he was supposed to have been decided before he
pushed that off. They could have done it, I think
for good reasons. Well I don't know about their reasons,
but thankfully it didn't. I mean, the jage said he
didn't want anybody thinking it was election interference, and it
probably would have been uh to have done that. It
(03:46):
wouldn't have been right to do it, but they could have.
They would have needed to do rightly that. The way
that would have worked is they should have decided the
immunity issue and then Trump should have been entitled to
take an immediate peal. How that decided didn't come back
down and do this. But the way you once had
it set up where it was the next day of
two days after the decision on immunity, it seemed like
(04:07):
the judge was going to try to get to the
punishment phase before Trump could get his appeal game. But
but I don't know.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
Interesting stuff. Thank you, sir, appreciate it. Tony Dunnan Biles
joining us here on news radio seven forty k trh
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