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Speaker 1 (00:00):
So it's not new ALPR. It's automated license plate recognition.
It's been used for over twenty years by law enforcement agencies.
But now it's being used by border patrolling. Suddenly now
it's a bad thing. And suddenly now it's an invasion
of privacy and it's nationwide surveillance without having committed crimes.
That's kind of what they're arguing anti illegal or excuse me,
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immigration proponents have to say. Jennifer Oliver O'Connor word a
great piece about this at RedState dot com.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
Jennifer, good morning, Good morning, Bob. How are you.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
I'm great, great, Thanks very much for the time this morning.
So tell us what they're complaining about here. Law enforcement's
been able to read our license plates and monitor those
things for a very long time.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
What's the issue.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
The issue is the information is now being sold publicly
through private companies, through a company called flock. So once
it's out of the law enforcement person's hands or the
law enforcement agencies hands, anybody could access it. Anybody can
buy it, including customs, US customs and border patrol. And
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that for sanctuary states like California and Washington, that is
beyond the pale. They don't want to think that they're
you know, people are being targeted. You know they're precious
legals are being targeted. But also you know they claim
it's citizen concern as well.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
You know what I find interesting when we talk about
privacy violations, aren't vehicles on public roadways not private by
their very definition. They're in public and they can be
they can be videotaped, they can be recorded, they can
be monitored.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
Right or am I missing that wrong?
Speaker 2 (01:41):
You aren't missing that at all. Because it is on
a public road. And who owns the roads, the local
and federal governments, or should I say who controls the roads,
they have an absolute right to scan that. States and
cities and municipalities can set up parameters to say you
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can only keep this information for so long, particularly if
it's just private citizen information, you need to flush it
after so many days, so many months. And certain states
like Arkansas have set up parameters how this should be used.
Other states, particularly some of these sanctuary jurisdictions, Supposedly they've
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had bills on the table and they'd either bypassed them
or detoed them.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
Yeah, states like California, which is the focus here of
a lot of this. We're talking with Jennifer Oliver O'Connell
RedState dot com. Tell me about Gavin Newsom. You write
a bit about his hypocrisy on the issue of these
plate readers and what the data can be used for.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
Yes, Alcohola is one of the less conservative bastions in
the city and County of San Diego, and this conservative
mayor allows his local law enforcement to share data as
local municipalities again are allowed to shared with flop to
share it with other agencies, and Newsom assuming him claiming
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that he is using this information to sell to custom
and Border Patrol and you know it's in violation of
his sanctuary policy laws. Wells is fighting back. There's a
law of called SB thirty four, which basically says public
agencies can share information with other public agencies, and that's
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what he is doing. He also makes the point that,
you know, this is not about privacy, it's about politics.
It's about Newsom wanting to polish his bona fides for
his presidential run in twenty twenty eight.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
No question about that.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
Everything he does was with an I toward twenty twenty
and I think we've all kind of observed that already Jennifer,
tell us about your trip. You wrote about you and
your husband taking a trip from what on I twenty
between Texas, Era between the Midland and Odessa.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
Tell us about that.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
Yeah, so it took a long road trip. I live
in the South and further stuff than you, obviously, and
we went through your beautiful state of Texas. It's a
big state, and we were on the I twenty and surprise, surprise,
there was a border patrol stop pretty far at least
in my mind. I'm horrible at I meant, I'm horrible
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at distance, but pretty far from the border as far
as I was concerned. But we were, you know, we
got in line, we were, you know, slowly flowing through,
and then we stopped and we were getting ready to
pull out our license and do whatever and all. He
looked at me, looked at a smile and said, good
morning or good afternoon. Are you us citizens? As we
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said yes, I said yes. He said bye and put
us on our way. And you know, I've read up
some information about what they do at those stops. Again,
this is all publicly available stuff that people can find.
They already have your information when they scan your license plates. Again,
the APL rs are already at work, cameras are already
at work. They already know who you are, what your
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cars are registered in your name, the whole nine we have.
You know, I'm a public figure. My husband drives commercially,
so we've got digital history. So they already knew who
we were before we reached but they just needed a
verbal acknowledgment and interaction with us, and then that was it.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
Well, what I.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
Loved about it, what you wrote is is you felt safe,
and this is exactly what you voted for. You want
them checking, you want them You want to make sure
that people aren't being trafficked.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
You want to make sure that you know some of the.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
Illegal activities, the very dangerous illegal activities that the Left
doesn't seem to care much about, that they are being
you know, checked on by law enforcement, by border patrol
and so forth. Because that is exactly what we are
supposed to supposed to have, safety insecurity.
Speaker 3 (05:49):
That is exactly what we voted for.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
Jennifer Oliver O'Donnell at RedState dot comics you log in
and read this very important piece, Jennifer, thank you for
sharing and I wish you very happy thanksgiving.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
Thank you for having me,