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June 9, 2025 4 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Somehow, I don't think they're singing this song today in
Los Angeles. Seven fifty two is our time here in
Houston's morning news. Cars are burning. That always is fun
to see. After wildfire has destroyed so much of the
Los Angeles area, you would think that the rioters would
have at least a little pity. People are still suffering
from some PTSD over those wildfires, but not setting stuff

(00:22):
on fire. But they don't care about that, do they,
of course not. FBI Special Agent and Navy Seal Jonathan
Gilliam joins us, what do you think is behind all this?

Speaker 2 (00:30):
Jonathan, Well, I think it's definitely an organized group. I
don't know if they have a specific name, but we
see the same people. What's it fascinating is when you
look at the front line where they have the police,
and you'll have people right up on their face. You
will see people with the same helmets, the same clothes,

(00:53):
looking at each other talking. There's people yelling at the cops,
but watch the other people. They are coordinating. They are
trained to coordinate. When somebody starts fighting, there'll be somebody
will come in there will stop it, and then they
go back to harassing. And these are all techniques that
we've seen employed exactly the same all over the country

(01:14):
for ten years now. I mean, I think whether you
call them Antifa, whether you call them activists for Palestinians
or gay rights, it's the same people that jump on
board with all these causes. And while the group, the
large group may be made up of different people, it's

(01:36):
the people who organize these things, instigate them, and control
them and fund them. Those people they fly all over
the country. And while I can't tell you I have
the evidence to say exactly who they are, I know
that they themselves. In Time magazine in February of twenty

(01:56):
twenty one, there was an article where they the Democrat
Party said themselves that they can start a party or
a protest anywhere. They didn't stay right, they left that
part out, but anywhere in the country within two hours,
they can fund it, staff it, and put people there
to control it.

Speaker 1 (02:13):
So are you suggesting that the Democrats are behind it?
Are you suggesting that perhaps somebody who's just very involved
with Democrats and Democrat causes might be behind it.

Speaker 2 (02:23):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (02:23):
George Sourrows, somebody with a whole lot of money who
wouldn't mind seeing a little chaos from coast to coast.

Speaker 2 (02:30):
I don't think from at the top levels. I don't
think you can separate that, you know. I mean, maybe
you know Uncle Joe, who's a blue dog Democrat from
way back when you know, I'm not saying that he's
involved in it, but the people who run fund actually
direct the Democrat Party, the loyalist, the leftist, socialist, communist, Marxists,

(02:54):
targe to believe we're saying those words, but I definitely
think that those people are behind this, and they're organized,
and uh, and we see, we see how good they
are at this. The signs, the signs that they hold up,
the words to say, the phrases that they say, all
these things are uniformed, and they happen within literally a

(03:15):
couple hours. You have people there.

Speaker 1 (03:17):
You said on X that you thought this was about
instigating a civil war? Do you still think so.

Speaker 2 (03:22):
I think they've been trying to do that for quite
a while. Yeah, and I think they I think that,
you know, President Trump's first term, Uh, it was a
push towards that. But if you look at the things
that are occurring in the verbiage that they're using, it's
exactly like Hamas uses over uh with the Palestinian people
against Israel. Uh. They embed themselves here within good people.

(03:45):
Look at look at the people protests down there. They're
all wearing Palestinian headgear. They're all out there with the
same you know, the same wraps on their head as Palestinians.
So the people that the guy who burn up the
people in Colorado, the individual that shot the two people
from the Israeli embassy in DC, they were saying the

(04:07):
same words, they were chanting the same things. And they're
trying to turn it where it's altruistic, where they can
convince people that they're doing the greater good instead of
forcing people to do things through fear. Let's worked. Hero
Asm usually works. That's the new tactic. But it's new here,
but it's not new around the world. All right, sir,
thank you for your inside. I wish I had more

(04:27):
time we do. FBI Special Agent Abcal Jonathan Gilliam
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