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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Well, Texas Democrats are still on the run, and where's
the punishment. We're still waiting on the punishment, joining US
as Attorney General Ken Paxson, I know that there's talk
of charges against these runaway Democrats, there's talk about taking
away their committee chairs and those types of things. But
last I heard, nothing had happened yet.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
Why so, well, well, actually a lot's happened. It's all
in the courts right now. So for instance, we have
filed actions in Illinois and California courts, so trying to
hold them in contempt for not being here and hold
them accountable for the laws of Texas. But that's within
the courts of those two states. And then of course
(00:41):
we've got the US, the Texas Preme Court action that
the Governor and I are both a part of trying
to remove. He filed an action to remove gen Wu,
I find an action to remove thirteen legislators. We have
expedited opportunity to, I think, with in two weeks get
(01:01):
something else in front of the court. And they are
the ones driving the timeline and they are the ones
driving the decision. But we are doing everything we can
when we don't have the authority to make the decisions.
We only have the authority to make the filings. The court,
the Texa Supreme Court, on these out of state courts
are the ones that actually make the decisions.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
And you say there's been a request for an expedited
ruling on some of these cases, let me ask you
about these states. I know that the FBI is cooperating
as far as trying to find where these people are
in a how hard they are to find. They seem
to be calling a lot of news conferences. But are
you getting any cooperation at all from any of these
blue states as far as trying to extradite these Democrats.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
No, I mean, that's why they went to democratic states.
I mean, we know where they are for the most part.
I mean it's not like some secret they're not hiding. Really,
they're in plain sight in most of these states. It's
just that we don't have the jurisdiction to go arrest
them unless we have the participation of the other states.
So I don't think the FBI has authority to go
(02:04):
arrest them because they haven't commitated federal crime. So that's
the problem. So that's where we're in court. We're asking
the court to honor under the Full Fate and Credit
Clause of our US Constitution, other states are supposed to
honor the laws of other states, and that's what we're
trying to get these other states to do. Whether we
can get a judge or judges in these liberal states
(02:24):
to actually follow law, well that's all we can do.
We can ask the courts in those states please follow
our laws just as we would follow your laws.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
Yeah, I know that. The governors basically said, if you
want to get paid, you're going to have to come
pick up your paycheck in person, which is a is
a great tactic, I guess, although the paycheck for Texas
lawmaker is not very high. But I'm a little bit
surprised that the House itself hasn't been done a few
more draconian moves. I've not heard about any effort yet. Anyway,
(02:56):
There's been a threat of taking committee co chairs away
from Democrats, but I don't think it's actually happened.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
Yeah, that's that. I mean, that's completely up the speaker.
That's an inside, you know, the House kind of decision.
That would be up to Dustin Burroughs to make that call.
Craig Abbott couldn't make that happen. I can't make that happen.
Those those those decisions are up to Dustin Burroughs, and
I'd certainly encourage them to start exercising that power over
these people, to put more pressure on them to come back.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
As far as the ability of the state to remove
them from office, what does what does state law say
about removing a member of the state legislature. What sort
of rules have to be broken in order for that
to happen and to stand up in court?
Speaker 2 (03:40):
Well, so this is a you know, and this has
never happened before. We're in uncharged territory. This was an
idea that my office put together in a legal opinion
three years ago, when the four years ago when the
members left for the same reason. So, you know, as
I said, we don't really know how all this works.
We just know that they are applicating their responsible We
(04:00):
filed against the thirteen members that were the most open
and notorious about their reasons for being gone and put
it out in public so that we would have the
best possible argument with the Supreme Court. Hey, these people
have said they're advocating in their own words. Please give
us an opportunity to get legislators in there that will
actually show up, do their jobs and vote.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
Before I let you go, I'd like to ask you
a little bit about your attempt to win the Senate
seat away from John Cornyn in the primary. I know
that you've got a lot of support. You're a true conservative.
I don't think the same thing can be said for
John Cornyan, although he's running. I'm sure you've seen the
television ads he's running right now where it makes it
looks like he sides with Donald Trump on virtually every issue.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
Well, look, that's what I call the fake John Cornyn
that started appearing on April the eighth, when I got into
the race. We all know that he didn't like Donald Trump.
He didn't support him in two thousand and six, so
he was an albatross around twenty sixteen, said he was
an albatro around her neck and in the last election
would not support him, basically insinuated that he had committed crimes,
(05:07):
that this whole Russian hoax was a real thing. He
was antagonist to Trump on the border wall, did not
want to build a boorderwall, was antagonist to Trump on
many issues, And now suddenly he's a massive support of
Donald Trump, it's all fake, and that he's doing it
because he knows he's way behind. He can't win without
(05:29):
being dishonest about his positions because they don't match. I've got,
you know, many many clips that anybody can go look
at on the Internet where he has been very disparaging
towards Trump and very disparaging towards many of his policies,
and including you know, joining Joe Biden and restricting the
Second Amendment, which was a big win for Joe Biden
(05:50):
and a loss for Texans. But John Cornyn is more
on that side and making Democrats happy than he is
making us happy.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
And you can beat with the deepot. He's got a
lot of money in the bank, a lot of donor money.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
Well, we outraised him in my first quarter of fundraised
only at two months, we raised two point nine million.
Max contribution was seven thousand dollars. He raised eight hundred
and three thousand, So I outraised him when was four
run out raised every single US senator, a Republican US
senator in the country. I will admit Washington will spend
a lot of money. They have the special committees that
(06:24):
I don't have access to. They have sort of a
rigged fundraising system. So yes, he's going. He's already spent.
I think they said eight million dollars in the last month.
But guess what, he doesn't have anything to talk about
other than making up this stuff about Trump and making
up stuff about me. He doesn't have a record that
he can go be proud of and go tell the
(06:44):
voter here's what I did over the last you know,
four decades of my career, in the last two and
a half decades in the Senate, I do have that record.
And I think the voters, at least in the primary,
I know, are smart enough to see the difference and
know when somebody's not telling them the truth.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
Orturning jail. Thank you for your time, as always, do
appreciate it, sir. You take care.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
Hey you too, Thank you.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
Yep, Texas A. G. Ken Paxton
Well, Texas Democrats are still on the run, and where's
the punishment. We're still waiting on the punishment, joining US
as Attorney General Ken Paxson, I know that there's talk
of charges against these runaway Democrats, there's talk about taking
away their committee chairs and those types of things. But
last I heard, nothing had happened yet.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
Why so, well, well, actually a lot's happened. It's all
in the courts right now. So for instance, we have
filed actions in Illinois and California courts, so trying to
hold them in contempt for not being here and hold
them accountable for the laws of Texas. But that's within
the courts of those two states. And then of course
(00:41):
we've got the US, the Texas Preme Court action that
the Governor and I are both a part of trying
to remove. He filed an action to remove gen Wu,
I find an action to remove thirteen legislators. We have
expedited opportunity to, I think, with in two weeks get
(01:01):
something else in front of the court. And they are
the ones driving the timeline and they are the ones
driving the decision. But we are doing everything we can
when we don't have the authority to make the decisions.
We only have the authority to make the filings. The court,
the Texa Supreme Court, on these out of state courts
are the ones that actually make the decisions.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
And you say there's been a request for an expedited
ruling on some of these cases, let me ask you
about these states. I know that the FBI is cooperating
as far as trying to find where these people are
in a how hard they are to find. They seem
to be calling a lot of news conferences. But are
you getting any cooperation at all from any of these
blue states as far as trying to extradite these Democrats.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
No, I mean, that's why they went to democratic states.
I mean, we know where they are for the most part.
I mean it's not like some secret they're not hiding. Really,
they're in plain sight in most of these states. It's
just that we don't have the jurisdiction to go arrest
them unless we have the participation of the other states.
So I don't think the FBI has authority to go
(02:04):
arrest them because they haven't commitated federal crime. So that's
the problem. So that's where we're in court. We're asking
the court to honor under the Full Fate and Credit
Clause of our US Constitution, other states are supposed to
honor the laws of other states, and that's what we're
trying to get these other states to do. Whether we
can get a judge or judges in these liberal states
(02:24):
to actually follow law, well that's all we can do.
We can ask the courts in those states please follow
our laws just as we would follow your laws.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
Yeah, I know that. The governors basically said, if you
want to get paid, you're going to have to come
pick up your paycheck in person, which is a is
a great tactic, I guess, although the paycheck for Texas
lawmaker is not very high. But I'm a little bit
surprised that the House itself hasn't been done a few
more draconian moves. I've not heard about any effort yet. Anyway,
(02:56):
There's been a threat of taking committee co chairs away
from Democrats, but I don't think it's actually happened.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
Yeah, that's that. I mean, that's completely up the speaker.
That's an inside, you know, the House kind of decision.
That would be up to Dustin Burroughs to make that call.
Craig Abbott couldn't make that happen. I can't make that happen.
Those those those decisions are up to Dustin Burroughs, and
I'd certainly encourage them to start exercising that power over
these people, to put more pressure on them to come back.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
As far as the ability of the state to remove
them from office, what does what does state law say
about removing a member of the state legislature. What sort
of rules have to be broken in order for that
to happen and to stand up in court?
Speaker 2 (03:40):
Well, so this is a you know, and this has
never happened before. We're in uncharged territory. This was an
idea that my office put together in a legal opinion
three years ago, when the four years ago when the
members left for the same reason. So, you know, as
I said, we don't really know how all this works.
We just know that they are applicating their responsible We
(04:00):
filed against the thirteen members that were the most open
and notorious about their reasons for being gone and put
it out in public so that we would have the
best possible argument with the Supreme Court. Hey, these people
have said they're advocating in their own words. Please give
us an opportunity to get legislators in there that will
actually show up, do their jobs and vote.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
Before I let you go, I'd like to ask you
a little bit about your attempt to win the Senate
seat away from John Cornyn in the primary. I know
that you've got a lot of support. You're a true conservative.
I don't think the same thing can be said for
John Cornyan, although he's running. I'm sure you've seen the
television ads he's running right now where it makes it
looks like he sides with Donald Trump on virtually every issue.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
Well, look, that's what I call the fake John Cornyn
that started appearing on April the eighth, when I got into
the race. We all know that he didn't like Donald Trump.
He didn't support him in two thousand and six, so
he was an albatross around twenty sixteen, said he was
an albatro around her neck and in the last election
would not support him, basically insinuated that he had committed crimes,
(05:07):
that this whole Russian hoax was a real thing. He
was antagonist to Trump on the border wall, did not
want to build a boorderwall, was antagonist to Trump on
many issues, And now suddenly he's a massive support of
Donald Trump, it's all fake, and that he's doing it
because he knows he's way behind. He can't win without
(05:29):
being dishonest about his positions because they don't match. I've got,
you know, many many clips that anybody can go look
at on the Internet where he has been very disparaging
towards Trump and very disparaging towards many of his policies,
and including you know, joining Joe Biden and restricting the
Second Amendment, which was a big win for Joe Biden
(05:50):
and a loss for Texans. But John Cornyn is more
on that side and making Democrats happy than he is
making us happy.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
And you can beat with the deepot. He's got a
lot of money in the bank, a lot of donor money.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
Well, we outraised him in my first quarter of fundraised
only at two months, we raised two point nine million.
Max contribution was seven thousand dollars. He raised eight hundred
and three thousand, So I outraised him when was four
run out raised every single US senator, a Republican US
senator in the country. I will admit Washington will spend
a lot of money. They have the special committees that
(06:24):
I don't have access to. They have sort of a
rigged fundraising system. So yes, he's going. He's already spent.
I think they said eight million dollars in the last month.
But guess what, he doesn't have anything to talk about
other than making up this stuff about Trump and making
up stuff about me. He doesn't have a record that
he can go be proud of and go tell the
(06:44):
voter here's what I did over the last you know,
four decades of my career, in the last two and
a half decades in the Senate, I do have that record.
And I think the voters, at least in the primary,
I know, are smart enough to see the difference and
know when somebody's not telling them the truth.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
Orturning jail. Thank you for your time, as always, do
appreciate it, sir. You take care.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
Hey you too, Thank you.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
Yep, Texas A. G. Ken Paxton
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