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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Seven, twenty three. Now here in Houston's Morning News the
Ike Dike. How many years have we been talking about
the Ike Dike and we're ever going to get anything
done on the Ike Dike. Well, evidently something is finally
getting done. At least the contracts have been through. Mark
Enry joins us Galison County Judge. Only took how many years, judge,
it's been a while.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
I believe ike was in two thousand and nine. So,
but that's the speed of government, right, yeah, it is.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
Well, here's here's one of the big downsides the speed
of government on this. How much is the price of
building the Ike Dke gone up during that time?
Speaker 2 (00:33):
Oh, dramatically, probably at least six or sevenfold. And that's
that's the problem, and that's a concern we have now.
So the contracts that were issued are just for preliminary
design and they'll give us a good estimate, but that
estimate is only good the year that they complete it.
And you know, it's the speed of government, it'll be
two to five times that by the time they get
onto construction.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
Well, and let's talk about the timeline there, because the contract,
as you said, is just the first step in what
is likely to be a very long process. Once the
contract has been approved, then they start to design it,
don't They have a pretty good idea of how it
needs to be designed at this point.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
It's an engineering design, so it's far more technical than
just a like an artist rendering or an architectural concept.
So they're gonna have you know, elevations and depths and
probably soil samples to know exactly what they're dealing with.
So it's far more detailed than the drawings that we've seen.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
Up to date, okay. And what other kinds of approvals
will this project have to get before it actually the
construction actually begins. Well, part of.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
That will be address during the design phase, but it's
gonna be everybody from all the cities involved, to the
Army Corps of engineers, to you know, anybody who's got
any thing to do with the navigation, the Coastguard navigation
in those waterways. So there will be a lot of
federal and local entities who have the opportunity to weigh in,
and most of them will be requiring approval.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
Okay, And then when you do begin construction, we have
a timeline on how long of it actually take to
build it.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
That'll be a very good question, because it'll depend on
if they can do it all at once or if
they do it in phases. Phases are far more likely,
and that's something that the preliminary design will tell us,
and they'll say, if you do phase one, it'll take
two years, and if you do phase one through six
it'll take twelve years. So they'll give us a better timeline,
a better idea of what it'll take time wise to
move the dirt and get the thing built.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
All right. Math was never my strong suit. But I'm
adding all this stuff up in my head and I'm
thinking to myself, by the time we have a completed Ikedke,
it might be twenty years from now.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
I think that's optimistic.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
Yes, Oh, twenty years is optimistic.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
Great again, the speed of government not everyone worksh ap.
The speed of Galaston County, well that's a fact. You know.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
If you had had the financial resources to do it
for yourself, it probably would have been built a long
time ago, don't you think.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
Oh certainly, But our entire annual budget wouldn't even cover
maintenance in operations, so it's just not a possibility.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
Okay at this point though, the bottom line here Judge Henry,
how optimistic are you that we will at some point
see a completed dykedyke that this now is actually going
to happen.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
This study will be a big part of that, because
we can't really say intelligently until we have an idea
of the cost, the alignment, and then the any barriers
that we haven't really thought of that the engineers will
get into when this is they go through this preliminary design,
so we will have a better handle on that when
these engineers get through what they've just been contracted to do.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
All right, Well, I hope we're both alive to see
a completed ike tyke. Do you may have a better
chance than me. We'll see. Thank you, Mark, appreciate it.
That is gvestein County, Judge Mark Henry
Seven, twenty three. Now here in Houston's Morning News the
Ike Dike. How many years have we been talking about
the Ike Dike and we're ever going to get anything
done on the Ike Dike. Well, evidently something is finally
getting done. At least the contracts have been through. Mark
Enry joins us Galison County Judge. Only took how many years, judge,
it's been a while.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
I believe ike was in two thousand and nine. So,
but that's the speed of government, right, yeah, it is.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
Well, here's here's one of the big downsides the speed
of government on this. How much is the price of
building the Ike Dke gone up during that time?
Speaker 2 (00:33):
Oh, dramatically, probably at least six or sevenfold. And that's
that's the problem, and that's a concern we have now.
So the contracts that were issued are just for preliminary
design and they'll give us a good estimate, but that
estimate is only good the year that they complete it.
And you know, it's the speed of government, it'll be
two to five times that by the time they get
onto construction.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
Well, and let's talk about the timeline there, because the contract,
as you said, is just the first step in what
is likely to be a very long process. Once the
contract has been approved, then they start to design it,
don't They have a pretty good idea of how it
needs to be designed at this point.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
It's an engineering design, so it's far more technical than
just a like an artist rendering or an architectural concept.
So they're gonna have you know, elevations and depths and
probably soil samples to know exactly what they're dealing with.
So it's far more detailed than the drawings that we've seen.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
Up to date, okay. And what other kinds of approvals
will this project have to get before it actually the
construction actually begins. Well, part of.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
That will be address during the design phase, but it's
gonna be everybody from all the cities involved, to the
Army Corps of engineers, to you know, anybody who's got
any thing to do with the navigation, the Coastguard navigation
in those waterways. So there will be a lot of
federal and local entities who have the opportunity to weigh in,
and most of them will be requiring approval.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
Okay, And then when you do begin construction, we have
a timeline on how long of it actually take to
build it.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
That'll be a very good question, because it'll depend on
if they can do it all at once or if
they do it in phases. Phases are far more likely,
and that's something that the preliminary design will tell us,
and they'll say, if you do phase one, it'll take
two years, and if you do phase one through six
it'll take twelve years. So they'll give us a better timeline,
a better idea of what it'll take time wise to
move the dirt and get the thing built.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
All right. Math was never my strong suit. But I'm
adding all this stuff up in my head and I'm
thinking to myself, by the time we have a completed Ikedke,
it might be twenty years from now.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
I think that's optimistic.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
Yes, Oh, twenty years is optimistic.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
Great again, the speed of government not everyone worksh ap.
The speed of Galaston County, well that's a fact. You know.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
If you had had the financial resources to do it
for yourself, it probably would have been built a long
time ago, don't you think.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
Oh certainly, But our entire annual budget wouldn't even cover
maintenance in operations, so it's just not a possibility.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
Okay at this point though, the bottom line here Judge Henry,
how optimistic are you that we will at some point
see a completed dykedyke that this now is actually going
to happen.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
This study will be a big part of that, because
we can't really say intelligently until we have an idea
of the cost, the alignment, and then the any barriers
that we haven't really thought of that the engineers will
get into when this is they go through this preliminary design,
so we will have a better handle on that when
these engineers get through what they've just been contracted to do.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
All right, Well, I hope we're both alive to see
a completed ike tyke. Do you may have a better
chance than me. We'll see. Thank you, Mark, appreciate it.
That is gvestein County, Judge Mark Henry
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