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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, good morning friends, we have some upolling of
data to share with you. Democrats get their lowest rating
from voters in thirty five years. Wall Street Journal says
this new poll shows that sixty three percent of voters
have an unfavorable view of the Democrat Party, the highest
share in journal polls dating back to nineteen ninety and
thirty percent, eight points higher than the thirty three percent
(00:22):
they hold a favorable view. And by the way, those
numbers are better than some other polls that we've seen.
NBC News poll back in March showed that just twenty
seven percent of voters had positive opinions about the Democrat
Party twenty seven percent. Joining us to talk about it
is Mark Meckler. He's President of Convention of States. I
(00:43):
don't know how far back in history you'd have to
go to find polling numbers that low for any political party.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
What do you think, Mark, Yeah, I actually think you
have to go back before the beginning of actual polling
in the United States of America. And I mean, the
thing that I'm most curious about is where is rock
bottom for the Democrats. Have been waiting for them to
find the floor, and it seems that every few weeks,
they're imagining they're able to go lower. They imagine things
they can do that allow them to be held in
(01:11):
lower esteem by the American people.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
Well, the party has been hijacked by the progressive left.
I mean, there's no doubt about that. And it doesn't
appear that anybody else in the Democrat Party is putting
up a fight anymore. They're just letting this happen. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
I think it's very difficult for them to put up
a fight when you look at the dynamics of the
Democrat Party right now. All of the enthusiasm is on
the radical left of the party. So if they were
to attempt to tack to the middle, it seems that
the thing that would happen, at least immediately would be
they would lose the enthusiasm and their radical left and
they would drop even lower in the bulls.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
Okay, so there's nowhere for them to go? Is that
what you're saying? How do you save the Democrat Party?
Not that I care about saving the Democrat Party, but
how do you go about trying to save it if
you're a Democrat?
Speaker 2 (01:57):
Yeah, I mean, I think this is really the interesting question,
and having been involved in politics professionally for fifteen years,
since the days of the Tea Party. I feel like
I can usually figure out a pass. Not that I'm
always right, but I have some ideas. For this Democrat Party,
I really don't have ideas. They're sort of in a
blind alley. I think the only way out is in
the long term, they would have to decide that they're
(02:17):
going to tack to the middle. That would mean that
their polling would go lower temporary and they would likely
get blown out in the mid terms. Over time, they
could recover the middle, but it's going to take a
couple of cycles for them to do so.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
You know, I have to wonder too, there may be
a great experiment coming. Hopefully in an experiment that fails miserably,
I would expect that it would. If a certain Democrat
becomes mayor in New York City, then we'll have our
a true socialist, if not a socialist slash almost communists
mayor of the number one city in the United States
(02:51):
of America. We still have major cities controlled by Democrats.
And the thing that I guess has surprised me the
most is that they have been able to keep control
over these major cities.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
Yeah, look, I think that's the most interesting thing. But
they control the media, so they control the narrative, and
so people keep voting Democrat and also remember a lot, but.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
Hang on, hang on, the media's media's favorability rating isn't
any higher than Democrats. How is it They're they're controlling
controlling the narrative.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
You know, I think that's a really interesting question. But
people still consume the media. They consume whether they like
CNN or MSNBC or whatever the local leftist media is.
They may not like it, but they still consume it
as their main media. And when that's your diet of information,
that's what you believe and that's how you vote.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
Okay, but even I think the networks are starting to
wake up a little bit. Do you do? Do you
see what is happening with some of the you know,
late night shows, Stephen Colbert for example, you know, losing
losing his job. You see that as maybe if the
media company is starting to switch, starting to understand that,
you know, taking a political tact with everything, especially them
(04:04):
from a far left point of view, is not a
good way to go when you're trying to make money.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
Yeah, I think we're at the very beginning of that cycle.
I know people are celebrating, and I am too. I
think it's great that Colbert got canceled. I think that's
good for the country. But there is still a very
entrenched leftist elite in the media broadly speaking. So I
think again, they can tact in the middle, but that's
going to be a slow process. Even when they do it,
the question is can they regain that middle ground audience.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
Yeah, Well, by that point in time, the people they
used to consider their you know, the their main base,
you know, the working men and women of America, they've
they've all become Republicans. So unless the Republican Party goes
back to being the party of the rich, I don't
see that happening to you.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
No, I don't see that happening anytime soon. So what
we're seeing is a tectonic shift in the politics of
the country back to some sort of realism, and that
realism is represented by the right in America right now.
We also see this in the polling. Something we haven't
talked about yet is young people and especially young men,
have completely flipped and they are now in large numbers
supporting the Republican Party. The future looks much more conservative.
(05:09):
And that's, by the way, not just in America. This
is happening all over the world.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
Yeah. Cyclical, it always is cyclical. Mark, thank you. Mark Meckler,
the President of Convention of State, six twenty seven
All right, good morning friends, we have some upolling of
data to share with you. Democrats get their lowest rating
from voters in thirty five years. Wall Street Journal says
this new poll shows that sixty three percent of voters
have an unfavorable view of the Democrat Party, the highest
share in journal polls dating back to nineteen ninety and
thirty percent, eight points higher than the thirty three percent
(00:22):
they hold a favorable view. And by the way, those
numbers are better than some other polls that we've seen.
NBC News poll back in March showed that just twenty
seven percent of voters had positive opinions about the Democrat
Party twenty seven percent. Joining us to talk about it
is Mark Meckler. He's President of Convention of States. I
(00:43):
don't know how far back in history you'd have to
go to find polling numbers that low for any political party.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
What do you think, Mark, Yeah, I actually think you
have to go back before the beginning of actual polling
in the United States of America. And I mean, the
thing that I'm most curious about is where is rock
bottom for the Democrats. Have been waiting for them to
find the floor, and it seems that every few weeks,
they're imagining they're able to go lower. They imagine things
they can do that allow them to be held in
(01:11):
lower esteem by the American people.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
Well, the party has been hijacked by the progressive left.
I mean, there's no doubt about that. And it doesn't
appear that anybody else in the Democrat Party is putting
up a fight anymore. They're just letting this happen. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
I think it's very difficult for them to put up
a fight when you look at the dynamics of the
Democrat Party right now. All of the enthusiasm is on
the radical left of the party. So if they were
to attempt to tack to the middle, it seems that
the thing that would happen, at least immediately would be
they would lose the enthusiasm and their radical left and
they would drop even lower in the bulls.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
Okay, so there's nowhere for them to go? Is that
what you're saying? How do you save the Democrat Party?
Not that I care about saving the Democrat Party, but
how do you go about trying to save it if
you're a Democrat?
Speaker 2 (01:57):
Yeah, I mean, I think this is really the interesting question,
and having been involved in politics professionally for fifteen years,
since the days of the Tea Party. I feel like
I can usually figure out a pass. Not that I'm
always right, but I have some ideas. For this Democrat Party,
I really don't have ideas. They're sort of in a
blind alley. I think the only way out is in
the long term, they would have to decide that they're
(02:17):
going to tack to the middle. That would mean that
their polling would go lower temporary and they would likely
get blown out in the mid terms. Over time, they
could recover the middle, but it's going to take a
couple of cycles for them to do so.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
You know, I have to wonder too, there may be
a great experiment coming. Hopefully in an experiment that fails miserably,
I would expect that it would. If a certain Democrat
becomes mayor in New York City, then we'll have our
a true socialist, if not a socialist slash almost communists
mayor of the number one city in the United States
(02:51):
of America. We still have major cities controlled by Democrats.
And the thing that I guess has surprised me the
most is that they have been able to keep control
over these major cities.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
Yeah, look, I think that's the most interesting thing. But
they control the media, so they control the narrative, and
so people keep voting Democrat and also remember a lot, but.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
Hang on, hang on, the media's media's favorability rating isn't
any higher than Democrats. How is it They're they're controlling
controlling the narrative.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
You know, I think that's a really interesting question. But
people still consume the media. They consume whether they like
CNN or MSNBC or whatever the local leftist media is.
They may not like it, but they still consume it
as their main media. And when that's your diet of information,
that's what you believe and that's how you vote.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
Okay, but even I think the networks are starting to
wake up a little bit. Do you do? Do you
see what is happening with some of the you know,
late night shows, Stephen Colbert for example, you know, losing
losing his job. You see that as maybe if the
media company is starting to switch, starting to understand that,
you know, taking a political tact with everything, especially them
(04:04):
from a far left point of view, is not a
good way to go when you're trying to make money.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
Yeah, I think we're at the very beginning of that cycle.
I know people are celebrating, and I am too. I
think it's great that Colbert got canceled. I think that's
good for the country. But there is still a very
entrenched leftist elite in the media broadly speaking. So I
think again, they can tact in the middle, but that's
going to be a slow process. Even when they do it,
the question is can they regain that middle ground audience.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
Yeah, Well, by that point in time, the people they
used to consider their you know, the their main base,
you know, the working men and women of America, they've
they've all become Republicans. So unless the Republican Party goes
back to being the party of the rich, I don't
see that happening to you.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
No, I don't see that happening anytime soon. So what
we're seeing is a tectonic shift in the politics of
the country back to some sort of realism, and that
realism is represented by the right in America right now.
We also see this in the polling. Something we haven't
talked about yet is young people and especially young men,
have completely flipped and they are now in large numbers
supporting the Republican Party. The future looks much more conservative.
(05:09):
And that's, by the way, not just in America. This
is happening all over the world.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
Yeah. Cyclical, it always is cyclical. Mark, thank you. Mark Meckler,
the President of Convention of State, six twenty seven
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