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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Okay, So what does this mean in Texas facilities and buildings?
Mary Elizabeth Castle from Texas Values joins US now to
talk about Senate Bill eight taking effect.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Mary, good morning, Good morning. How are you?
Speaker 1 (00:13):
We are wonderful.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
I appreciate you spending some time with us today. So
this has been a long battled issue in not just
Texas but a lot of states and now it's finally
going to take effect here. What does this mean and
what is your reaction to it?
Speaker 2 (00:27):
Well, today, the Texas Woman's Privacy Act going into effect
is a huge victory for women and girls in Texas.
They no longer have to go into the restroom or
locker room and look over the shoulder and fear that
a male who's not supposed to be there is there.
And so this makes sure that we have clear guidelines
on setting policies that men go into men's reshrooms, women's
(00:48):
go into women's restrooms, and also that women have some
sort of reprieve and justice if this ever happens to them.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
Yeah, and you know, is this let me rephrase, should
this be as controversial as it is when we're talking
about protecting vulnerable women. This has been a battle line
for a very very long time, and I don't understand
how and why it is. What do you you know,
what do you attribute the controversy here about something as
common sensible as this.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
This polication not be controversial at all. I mean, for
thousands and hundreds of years, we have a society have
understood and know the truth of what is the man
and what is a woman. You know, recently there's just
been incidents of men identifying as women with the recent
just phenomenon of gender identity, and unfortunately the victims of
(01:38):
gender identity have been women. You know, you have schools
like Round Rock ISD where there have been males who
went into the girls walker room after band practice without
the girls even knowing that this kid was transitioning, and
he just dropped his clothes and the girls had to
run out. This is not a controversial policy. We know
(01:59):
that the threats, we know even some of the experiences
women have had when they've been assaulted or threatened, and
this is just common sense safety policy.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
You know, I'm reading some of the exceptions as outlined
by the Texas Tribune. Those entering to render emergency medical
assistance to someone, they're allowed to go into the wrong
bathroom or private facility workers or custodial staff cleaning law
enforcement purposes, people who need assistance using the facilities. In
other words, normalcy. If you're a male, you can go
(02:32):
into the women's spaces to provide aid, et cetera, et cetera.
But beyond that, obviously common sense has to prevail, right.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
Absolutely, And you know what's interesting about that is you know,
anytime that there's been a male cleaner, he always knocks
and asks if someone is in the restroom before he enters,
because even with that, you know, necessity to clean the restroom,
he understands the privacy right of the women in that restroom.
So yeah, there are these common sense exceptions, but at
(03:03):
the end of the day, we know that there have
been people who have misused this concept of gender identity
to gain access to women's faces, walker rooms, even dressing rooms.
You know, several years ago we all heard about the
Target incident where a guy claiming that he was transgender,
claiming he was a woman, was actually videotaping an eighteen
(03:24):
year old girl in the Target changing room. So we
know that women can be harmed if we don't stand
up and take these protections and that's why the Texas
Woman's Privacy Act is essential.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
Yeah, you know, And there are a couple of other
ones since then, maybe not with the recording, but certainly
being watched. Golds Jim recently had an incident like this,
and I think there was a planet fitness, and I
can't recall which state it was in, not Texas. But
the point is there was somebody who was in one
of the stalls, a male, very clearly male, who barely
had any like attempt to conceal his maleness, in other words,
(03:56):
you know, dressing up almost in drag. But who was
caught in the bathroom stall, all of a women's locker room,
let's just say, with items in his possession that indicated
what he was doing in there was not being female,
but he was watching, staring, and doing things like I
said that we can't talk about on the radio. You
understand my point, though, These allowances to allow males who
(04:18):
quote unquote have a you know, a gender identity disorder,
to allow them to have access to women's facilities if
they do it in an unchecked bait on an unchecked basis,
is going to put scores of women in very dangerous positions.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
Absolutely right. And one key story we had during the
session was a Texas female athlete, Brooks Luster, born and
raised in good Old Ditton, Texas, went off to get
a you know, volleyball scholarship in California, and not only
did she have to share a locker room compete on
a volleyball team, but she also shared a hotel room
(04:53):
and even student housing with this guy who concealed that
he was a guy. He had a device that he
would hide his guy pards and he played this part
of that he was a woman. It's almost the entire semester.
And so when Brookes found this out, it totally shook
her and she tried to speak up against it. The
(05:13):
university punished her and she wasn't able to go back,
and she was one of our key witnesses during the session.
You know, think about just the horror of finding out
that you've been living with, sharing a hotel room with,
in a locker room with, you know, all these private
spaces over the course of six months, and this person
is actually a male. So the Texas Woman's Privacy Act
(05:35):
will not let that happen.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
Yeah, you can't even imagine what we'd be like to
realize how much you've been violated when you finally found out.
So yeah, completely concur So glad this is going into effect.
No matter how many people are going to try to
dismiss it as discriminatory and bigot it it is not
as common sensible, and it is protection. Mary Elizabeth Castle,
Texas Values. Mary, thanks for the time this morning.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
I appreciate it, all right, thank you so much for
having me
Okay, So what does this mean in Texas facilities and buildings?
Mary Elizabeth Castle from Texas Values joins US now to
talk about Senate Bill eight taking effect.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Mary, good morning, Good morning. How are you?
Speaker 1 (00:13):
We are wonderful.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
I appreciate you spending some time with us today. So
this has been a long battled issue in not just
Texas but a lot of states and now it's finally
going to take effect here. What does this mean and
what is your reaction to it?
Speaker 2 (00:27):
Well, today, the Texas Woman's Privacy Act going into effect
is a huge victory for women and girls in Texas.
They no longer have to go into the restroom or
locker room and look over the shoulder and fear that
a male who's not supposed to be there is there.
And so this makes sure that we have clear guidelines
on setting policies that men go into men's reshrooms, women's
(00:48):
go into women's restrooms, and also that women have some
sort of reprieve and justice if this ever happens to them.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
Yeah, and you know, is this let me rephrase, should
this be as controversial as it is when we're talking
about protecting vulnerable women. This has been a battle line
for a very very long time, and I don't understand
how and why it is. What do you you know,
what do you attribute the controversy here about something as
common sensible as this.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
This polication not be controversial at all. I mean, for
thousands and hundreds of years, we have a society have
understood and know the truth of what is the man
and what is a woman. You know, recently there's just
been incidents of men identifying as women with the recent
just phenomenon of gender identity, and unfortunately the victims of
(01:38):
gender identity have been women. You know, you have schools
like Round Rock ISD where there have been males who
went into the girls walker room after band practice without
the girls even knowing that this kid was transitioning, and
he just dropped his clothes and the girls had to
run out. This is not a controversial policy. We know
(01:59):
that the threats, we know even some of the experiences
women have had when they've been assaulted or threatened, and
this is just common sense safety policy.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
You know, I'm reading some of the exceptions as outlined
by the Texas Tribune. Those entering to render emergency medical
assistance to someone, they're allowed to go into the wrong
bathroom or private facility workers or custodial staff cleaning law
enforcement purposes, people who need assistance using the facilities. In
other words, normalcy. If you're a male, you can go
(02:32):
into the women's spaces to provide aid, et cetera, et cetera.
But beyond that, obviously common sense has to prevail, right.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
Absolutely, And you know what's interesting about that is you know,
anytime that there's been a male cleaner, he always knocks
and asks if someone is in the restroom before he enters,
because even with that, you know, necessity to clean the restroom,
he understands the privacy right of the women in that restroom.
So yeah, there are these common sense exceptions, but at
(03:03):
the end of the day, we know that there have
been people who have misused this concept of gender identity
to gain access to women's faces, walker rooms, even dressing rooms.
You know, several years ago we all heard about the
Target incident where a guy claiming that he was transgender,
claiming he was a woman, was actually videotaping an eighteen
(03:24):
year old girl in the Target changing room. So we
know that women can be harmed if we don't stand
up and take these protections and that's why the Texas
Woman's Privacy Act is essential.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
Yeah, you know, And there are a couple of other
ones since then, maybe not with the recording, but certainly
being watched. Golds Jim recently had an incident like this,
and I think there was a planet fitness, and I
can't recall which state it was in, not Texas. But
the point is there was somebody who was in one
of the stalls, a male, very clearly male, who barely
had any like attempt to conceal his maleness, in other words,
(03:56):
you know, dressing up almost in drag. But who was
caught in the bathroom stall, all of a women's locker room,
let's just say, with items in his possession that indicated
what he was doing in there was not being female,
but he was watching, staring, and doing things like I
said that we can't talk about on the radio. You
understand my point, though, These allowances to allow males who
(04:18):
quote unquote have a you know, a gender identity disorder,
to allow them to have access to women's facilities if
they do it in an unchecked bait on an unchecked basis,
is going to put scores of women in very dangerous positions.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
Absolutely right. And one key story we had during the
session was a Texas female athlete, Brooks Luster, born and
raised in good Old Ditton, Texas, went off to get
a you know, volleyball scholarship in California, and not only
did she have to share a locker room compete on
a volleyball team, but she also shared a hotel room
(04:53):
and even student housing with this guy who concealed that
he was a guy. He had a device that he
would hide his guy pards and he played this part
of that he was a woman. It's almost the entire semester.
And so when Brookes found this out, it totally shook
her and she tried to speak up against it. The
(05:13):
university punished her and she wasn't able to go back,
and she was one of our key witnesses during the session.
You know, think about just the horror of finding out
that you've been living with, sharing a hotel room with,
in a locker room with, you know, all these private
spaces over the course of six months, and this person
is actually a male. So the Texas Woman's Privacy Act
(05:35):
will not let that happen.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
Yeah, you can't even imagine what we'd be like to
realize how much you've been violated when you finally found out.
So yeah, completely concur So glad this is going into effect.
No matter how many people are going to try to
dismiss it as discriminatory and bigot it it is not
as common sensible, and it is protection. Mary Elizabeth Castle,
Texas Values. Mary, thanks for the time this morning.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
I appreciate it, all right, thank you so much for
having me
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