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October 2, 2025 3 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I just wish the government was smaller than this. Let's
talk about that with Matt Margolis. He's a columnist at
PJ Media. It everybody's talking that President Trump is going
to do it. I don't know when he's going to
do it, how much time he's going to give Democrats
to change their mind on a continuing resolution before he
starts to do it. But it seems pretty clear that

(00:21):
there's an opportunity here for President Trump to make some
significant reductions in the federal workforce. Do you think that's
going to happen?

Speaker 2 (00:29):
I certainly hope so, you know, I mean we've known
for years that the government is way too bloated, and
we've had people running for president for you know, every
year who are making promises about making government more efficient
and never do. And I want to see this happen,
and I hope it does.

Speaker 1 (00:46):
Where do you think he should start?

Speaker 2 (00:50):
Oh? Everywhere? Everywhere? You know, I mean, you know, there's
like two point four million federal employees, you know, I mean,
just just start going through the whole place with an axe,
as far as I'm concerned, because you know, I mean
this there's just there's just so much waste that's going
on that people pretend isn't happening, but we know that

(01:12):
it is. And you know, we just if the government
just ran more like the private sector, things would be
a lot better. And I think that's really what what
Trump is after here. He wants to see that the
government work more efficiently by the same rules that the
private sector does.

Speaker 1 (01:30):
I think that the way, though, that you go about
selling this to the American public is to explain what
you're cutting, why you're cutting it, how much it costs
to run it, how little that particular department or these
individuals do in reality, why we don't need this, and
what it means to reducing the deficit. I think Americans

(01:50):
have to pretty clearly hear how this is going to
benefit them before he does it, don't you think.

Speaker 2 (01:56):
Oh for sure? I mean I think I think people
want to know what's going on and why, and you know,
but you know, they're certainly not going to be happy
if they're paying, you know, one hundred thousand dollars a
year for some anonymous paper pusher. You know, I mean,
this is the kind of stuff that we have to
get rid of, and it's the kind of waste and
fraud that we see happen a lot. I mean in

(02:17):
in federal the federal government and state governments as well.
And you know, I think if we start with making
the federal government efficient, we can see that the Trump
has the opportunity to prove that we don't need this
huge federal workforce. And it's happened before with Elon Musk
when he when he bought Twitter, he did massive cuts

(02:40):
into the workforce there and found that, you know, the
company could confunction just fine with with even fewer employees.
So that's the kind of thing we need to see here.

Speaker 1 (02:48):
You know, I think I saw a figure here in Houston.
We have something in the neighborhood of thirty six thousand
federal employees working here in the Greater Houston area. To me,
that is granted, NASA's here, but that's a to me,
that's a shocking number. I think a lot of people
would be shocked by how many federal workers they have
in their own town or their own state.

Speaker 2 (03:08):
Oh yeah, for sure. People have no idea how bad
it really is. And I think bringing attention to this
issue is only going to help Trump in the long run.
And I think people have been blissfully ignorant about just
how bad the problem really is, and it's just gotten
worse and worse. You know, the thing goes that, you know,
once you're hired by the government, it's really hard to

(03:29):
lose your job. And it's about time that these people
who have been kind of floating around doing nothing for
three years and years let go and let the people
who do who actually do the works, stick around and
do their job.

Speaker 1 (03:42):
That's all we need, all right, Matt, thanks for your
time appreciated calmness to PGA Media. That's Matt Margolis
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