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Speaker 1 (00:00):
If you know what this song is, then you're listening
to the wrong radio section. Okay. Theme from the View
six twenty two is our time here in Houston's boring news.
Nicholas Fonte Caro joins us associate editor at news Bus
to this story about how they've had zero conservatives so
far in twenty twenty five. And quite honestly, Nicholas, that's
(00:20):
okay because if they any conservative they have on, they're
just gonna beat them up anyway, aren't they.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Yeah, and thank you for like traumatizing me with the
music long to get in and.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
Sorry about that.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
It's all good.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
So we know what the View is. We also know
that there are other shows Stephen Colbert was among them,
who were pretty much the same way. Stephen Colbert has
been canceled. How long before the View gets canceled. They
can't have big ratings numbers at this point, do they.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
Yeah? Here, here's the thing. They actually are fairly popular.
They routinely become the number one daytime talk show. They
are actually fairly popular, which is why we focus so
hard on them here at NewsBusters and study them and
make and try to do these studies and try to
cover them every day because they are They're part of
(01:13):
the ABC News umbrella, and this type of bias is
not becoming of a newsroom. They try to call themselves
like the editorial side of a newspaper, but even editorials
have like editorial standards, they still have to not say
the craziest things, and they do get people of different opinions,
just not on the view.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
Okay, when did it get this bad as far as
not offering up any opposing viewpoints on the view? Is
it always been this bad? Or is it is it
just got worse over time?
Speaker 2 (01:46):
It really is something that we've seen like this past season,
because last season, basically their twenty seventh season, they did
have some conservatives on there. They they ended the season
with I believe Johnson Nunu, who was actually the last
Republican that they had on. It was like early August
before they went on their their summer hiatus two and
he was the only he was the last one they
(02:08):
had to defend Republicans defend Trump. And then before that,
I believe it was like September of twenty three where
they had a Nancy Mason. So basically there are these
rare instances that they'll have somebody on and there have
been some Republicans like people like the account is really
about the types of narratives that they allowed to get pushed.
(02:30):
And of those guests, it's the hundred and two guests
that politics came up and was discussed that they allowed
to have this type of discussion because they did have
Kelsey Grammar on, a actor with some Republican ties, but
they only talked with him about a book he was
discussed that he was there to pitch with that was
about his sister, her untimely passing in her life. So
(02:52):
it was like this a topic that was in politics.
And basically the study is really showing like what type
of policy discussions and who they have them with.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
You know, you're describing Kelsey Grammar conversation and that is
editorializing by omission. And all the major network newsrooms are
guilty of doing that. The Big three are constantly guilty
of doing it. None of the three major broadcast networks
did a report on that heinous brawl in Cincinnati. I
doubt if any of them are covering what's going on
with the Russian hoax right now, because that investigation continues.
(03:26):
We could very well see a former president of the
United States and a former presidential candidate being dieted on
charges by the Department of Justice. But they're not going
to report on that.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
Yeah, absolutely not. With the Cincinnati brawl, basically none of
the flagship NewsCap morning and evening newscasts though CBS, NBC,
and CBS none of them covered it. With NBC, they
basically tried to say that they covered it and sort
of give themselves like a little check mark on the
box because they covered it in CBS Early Today, which
(03:57):
is their show that runs like after Mind and in
the very very early morning when nobody's really up and
in that on the first day after, like the Monday
after the weekend brawl, they did nineteen seconds on it,
and then the following Tuesday they had a two minute
and twenty five second report that they re aired a
(04:17):
few times on their streaming network. And their streaming network
is not that not that widely watched either, so they
do at least with NBC, they're doing like just enough
to just sort of check the box off of like
we put up reports about it, but they're not showing
them in any of their flagship newscasts that have like
the big ratings.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
Yeah, I've talked about this so much, almost making myself sick,
But I need to ask you about this one last
question as well. Nicholas. Then that is, at what point
in time do the network say to themselves, well, we
have no ratings, we've lost advertisers, we're heverrhaging money. CNN
seems to have finally gotten to that point where they
feel like they have to do something about it. When
(04:55):
does ABC, CBS and NBC decide they have to do
something about it or said it's never going to happen.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
I feel like they're, at least with ABC, they realized
that something needs to change, because just a few weeks
ago we had them fire Terry Moran for some of
the wild statements he was saying as a journalist for them.
And I feel like at some point, stuff like this
is gonna like that Terry Moran standard that they've said
is going to have to get applied further down the
line with other people, maybe the View and maybe it
(05:24):
maybe they'll keep the View around because it does get
the ratings for them, but perhaps it's like we're going
to start swapping out cast members when they're with the
Terry Moran incident. Basically, his contract was up, so they
didn't want to renew it. So perhaps when contracts come
up for some of the view stars, we'll get some
of them dropping as well.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
All Right, Nicholas, thanks for your time, appreciate it. That's
the associate editor at NewsBusters, Nicholas Fonda Caro. It is
six twenty eight
If you know what this song is, then you're listening
to the wrong radio section. Okay. Theme from the View
six twenty two is our time here in Houston's boring news.
Nicholas Fonte Caro joins us associate editor at news Bus
to this story about how they've had zero conservatives so
far in twenty twenty five. And quite honestly, Nicholas, that's
(00:20):
okay because if they any conservative they have on, they're
just gonna beat them up anyway, aren't they.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Yeah, and thank you for like traumatizing me with the
music long to get in and.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
Sorry about that.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
It's all good.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
So we know what the View is. We also know
that there are other shows Stephen Colbert was among them,
who were pretty much the same way. Stephen Colbert has
been canceled. How long before the View gets canceled. They
can't have big ratings numbers at this point, do they.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
Yeah? Here, here's the thing. They actually are fairly popular.
They routinely become the number one daytime talk show. They
are actually fairly popular, which is why we focus so
hard on them here at NewsBusters and study them and
make and try to do these studies and try to
cover them every day because they are They're part of
(01:13):
the ABC News umbrella, and this type of bias is
not becoming of a newsroom. They try to call themselves
like the editorial side of a newspaper, but even editorials
have like editorial standards, they still have to not say
the craziest things, and they do get people of different opinions,
just not on the view.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
Okay, when did it get this bad as far as
not offering up any opposing viewpoints on the view? Is
it always been this bad? Or is it is it
just got worse over time?
Speaker 2 (01:46):
It really is something that we've seen like this past season,
because last season, basically their twenty seventh season, they did
have some conservatives on there. They they ended the season
with I believe Johnson Nunu, who was actually the last
Republican that they had on. It was like early August
before they went on their their summer hiatus two and
he was the only he was the last one they
(02:08):
had to defend Republicans defend Trump. And then before that,
I believe it was like September of twenty three where
they had a Nancy Mason. So basically there are these
rare instances that they'll have somebody on and there have
been some Republicans like people like the account is really
about the types of narratives that they allowed to get pushed.
(02:30):
And of those guests, it's the hundred and two guests
that politics came up and was discussed that they allowed
to have this type of discussion because they did have
Kelsey Grammar on, a actor with some Republican ties, but
they only talked with him about a book he was
discussed that he was there to pitch with that was
about his sister, her untimely passing in her life. So
(02:52):
it was like this a topic that was in politics.
And basically the study is really showing like what type
of policy discussions and who they have them with.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
You know, you're describing Kelsey Grammar conversation and that is
editorializing by omission. And all the major network newsrooms are
guilty of doing that. The Big three are constantly guilty
of doing it. None of the three major broadcast networks
did a report on that heinous brawl in Cincinnati. I
doubt if any of them are covering what's going on
with the Russian hoax right now, because that investigation continues.
(03:26):
We could very well see a former president of the
United States and a former presidential candidate being dieted on
charges by the Department of Justice. But they're not going
to report on that.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
Yeah, absolutely not. With the Cincinnati brawl, basically none of
the flagship NewsCap morning and evening newscasts though CBS, NBC,
and CBS none of them covered it. With NBC, they
basically tried to say that they covered it and sort
of give themselves like a little check mark on the
box because they covered it in CBS Early Today, which
(03:57):
is their show that runs like after Mind and in
the very very early morning when nobody's really up and
in that on the first day after, like the Monday
after the weekend brawl, they did nineteen seconds on it,
and then the following Tuesday they had a two minute
and twenty five second report that they re aired a
(04:17):
few times on their streaming network. And their streaming network
is not that not that widely watched either, so they
do at least with NBC, they're doing like just enough
to just sort of check the box off of like
we put up reports about it, but they're not showing
them in any of their flagship newscasts that have like
the big ratings.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
Yeah, I've talked about this so much, almost making myself sick,
But I need to ask you about this one last
question as well. Nicholas. Then that is, at what point
in time do the network say to themselves, well, we
have no ratings, we've lost advertisers, we're heverrhaging money. CNN
seems to have finally gotten to that point where they
feel like they have to do something about it. When
(04:55):
does ABC, CBS and NBC decide they have to do
something about it or said it's never going to happen.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
I feel like they're, at least with ABC, they realized
that something needs to change, because just a few weeks
ago we had them fire Terry Moran for some of
the wild statements he was saying as a journalist for them.
And I feel like at some point, stuff like this
is gonna like that Terry Moran standard that they've said
is going to have to get applied further down the
line with other people, maybe the View and maybe it
(05:24):
maybe they'll keep the View around because it does get
the ratings for them, but perhaps it's like we're going
to start swapping out cast members when they're with the
Terry Moran incident. Basically, his contract was up, so they
didn't want to renew it. So perhaps when contracts come
up for some of the view stars, we'll get some
of them dropping as well.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
All Right, Nicholas, thanks for your time, appreciate it. That's
the associate editor at NewsBusters, Nicholas Fonda Caro. It is
six twenty eight
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