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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Well, as I've been saying all morning, it wasn't really
an apology last night. It was one of those. And
we've all done this right, we all recognize a non
apology apology, which is, well, if you felt that I said,
or that I had meant this, that I'm sorry, which
(00:21):
is not really an apology. In fact, I only think
he even used the word sorry in that non apology apology.
Nick Lindquist joins US political strategist and commentator. I don't
think I saw him cry a little bit. Jimmy Kibbles
known to cry, Nick, but I think he was crying
for himself. What do you think?
Speaker 2 (00:41):
Yeah, I absolutely agree, Jimmy. I was watching that kind
of in awe. But you know, part of me kind
of expected the response that we got, which was a
rehearse breakdown, really forced an unnatural said some thing he
should have said the first time that the night that
(01:04):
he got himself off the air, which is political violence
isn't the answer. But he also refused to acknowledge that
the shooter had ideological motivations. He basically said, oh, I
don't know why people do this, and then went right
back into what's killing Late night TV? To begin with
which is just bashing Trump, blaming Trump for him being
(01:27):
taken off the air. You know, it's really quite a
spectacle to see and it just exposes his lack of
self awareness. And you know this is the case for
a lot of people on network television.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
Still, Well, it's an echo chamber because everybody within their
world believes that. Everybody in Jimmy Kimmel's audience last night
believes the stuff he says, So it's an echo chamber.
The problem is is that echo chamber seems to be
getting smaller and smaller and smaller. And if you're on television,
you survive on ratings and revenue. And if you make
that echo chamber so small that you can no longer
(02:03):
make money for whatever network is carrying you, you become
very expendable.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
Yeah, especially with high budget programming like Late night TV.
I don't think people until you know Stephen Colbert got
canceled and then you know this happened, I don't think
people realize how expensive these shows are to produce and
they don't really yield any benefit for the networks. And
another interesting thing about that shrinking echo chamber is even
(02:31):
though Jimmy Kimmel returned to the airwaves last night. Next
Star and Sinclair affiliate stations, which makes up about a
quarter of ABC's reach, refused to air it still. So
I'm interested to see how that plays out. And I'm
also glad that these affiliates are standing up and saying no,
this still isn't right. We're not going to do this.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
Yeah. Well, last night he only mentioned Charlie Kirk by
name once. The first time he mentioned he said that
young man that was killed, and it was like, what
young what do you mean young man? We all knew
who it was. He mentioned Charlie Kirk. Layer claimed that
he had sent a message to the Kirk family. That's
one of the demands that Sinclair broadcasters had is they
(03:14):
wanted a direct apology from Jimmy Kimmel to the Kirk family,
and then they wanted some sort of a donation for
one of Charlie, you know, for whether it's Turning Point
or or some other charity that Charlie Kirk was connected to.
Don't I don't think he handled that last night, to you,
I don't think he made any effort towards that.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
No, there was no apology. You know, he may have
reached out to Erica Kirk, but I didn't see that.
I'm sure a donation was not made, and I think
that he purposely did not meet the demands of these
affiliates because he's a bitter person and he still thinks
he did nothing wrong. He fundamentally doesn't. He hasn't learned
(03:57):
the lesson that this was supposed to teach him, and
I don't think he'll ever learn that lesson, because again,
he he doesn't think he did anything wrong. He thinks,
you know, normal Americans, those those you know people took
me off the airwaves. And Donald Trump's responsible too, and
it's just a NonStop blame game. But the thing about
(04:20):
today is it's different from ten years ago, and he's
not immune from being taken off the air permanently. And
I you know, his contract is coming up in a
couple of years, I believe.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
I think at the end of the year, I think
what happened. I think in January he's contract is up,
so he may he may be out of work as
soon as January.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
Yeah, I mean, you know, I've been saying this to
others who've asked me about it, and I don't know
that they will renew that contract. After all of this,
it's an expensive program. Disney's you know, not doing very
well in general, so they're not going to make risky
investments anymore in terms of their cable properties.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
And Disney has not helped themselves at all in this either, Nick,
Thank you appreciate your time. Nick Linquist, Political strategust and
commentator at seven twenty seven
Well, as I've been saying all morning, it wasn't really
an apology last night. It was one of those. And
we've all done this right, we all recognize a non
apology apology, which is, well, if you felt that I said,
or that I had meant this, that I'm sorry, which
(00:21):
is not really an apology. In fact, I only think
he even used the word sorry in that non apology apology.
Nick Lindquist joins US political strategist and commentator. I don't
think I saw him cry a little bit. Jimmy Kibbles
known to cry, Nick, but I think he was crying
for himself. What do you think?
Speaker 2 (00:41):
Yeah, I absolutely agree, Jimmy. I was watching that kind
of in awe. But you know, part of me kind
of expected the response that we got, which was a
rehearse breakdown, really forced an unnatural said some thing he
should have said the first time that the night that
(01:04):
he got himself off the air, which is political violence
isn't the answer. But he also refused to acknowledge that
the shooter had ideological motivations. He basically said, oh, I
don't know why people do this, and then went right
back into what's killing Late night TV? To begin with
which is just bashing Trump, blaming Trump for him being
(01:27):
taken off the air. You know, it's really quite a
spectacle to see and it just exposes his lack of
self awareness. And you know this is the case for
a lot of people on network television.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
Still, Well, it's an echo chamber because everybody within their
world believes that. Everybody in Jimmy Kimmel's audience last night
believes the stuff he says, So it's an echo chamber.
The problem is is that echo chamber seems to be
getting smaller and smaller and smaller. And if you're on television,
you survive on ratings and revenue. And if you make
that echo chamber so small that you can no longer
(02:03):
make money for whatever network is carrying you, you become
very expendable.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
Yeah, especially with high budget programming like Late night TV.
I don't think people until you know Stephen Colbert got
canceled and then you know this happened, I don't think
people realize how expensive these shows are to produce and
they don't really yield any benefit for the networks. And
another interesting thing about that shrinking echo chamber is even
(02:31):
though Jimmy Kimmel returned to the airwaves last night. Next
Star and Sinclair affiliate stations, which makes up about a
quarter of ABC's reach, refused to air it still. So
I'm interested to see how that plays out. And I'm
also glad that these affiliates are standing up and saying no,
this still isn't right. We're not going to do this.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
Yeah. Well, last night he only mentioned Charlie Kirk by
name once. The first time he mentioned he said that
young man that was killed, and it was like, what
young what do you mean young man? We all knew
who it was. He mentioned Charlie Kirk. Layer claimed that
he had sent a message to the Kirk family. That's
one of the demands that Sinclair broadcasters had is they
(03:14):
wanted a direct apology from Jimmy Kimmel to the Kirk family,
and then they wanted some sort of a donation for
one of Charlie, you know, for whether it's Turning Point
or or some other charity that Charlie Kirk was connected to.
Don't I don't think he handled that last night, to you,
I don't think he made any effort towards that.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
No, there was no apology. You know, he may have
reached out to Erica Kirk, but I didn't see that.
I'm sure a donation was not made, and I think
that he purposely did not meet the demands of these
affiliates because he's a bitter person and he still thinks
he did nothing wrong. He fundamentally doesn't. He hasn't learned
(03:57):
the lesson that this was supposed to teach him, and
I don't think he'll ever learn that lesson, because again,
he he doesn't think he did anything wrong. He thinks,
you know, normal Americans, those those you know people took
me off the airwaves. And Donald Trump's responsible too, and
it's just a NonStop blame game. But the thing about
(04:20):
today is it's different from ten years ago, and he's
not immune from being taken off the air permanently. And
I you know, his contract is coming up in a
couple of years, I believe.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
I think at the end of the year, I think
what happened. I think in January he's contract is up,
so he may he may be out of work as
soon as January.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
Yeah, I mean, you know, I've been saying this to
others who've asked me about it, and I don't know
that they will renew that contract. After all of this,
it's an expensive program. Disney's you know, not doing very
well in general, so they're not going to make risky
investments anymore in terms of their cable properties.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
And Disney has not helped themselves at all in this either, Nick,
Thank you appreciate your time. Nick Linquist, Political strategust and
commentator at seven twenty seven
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