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Speaker 2 (00:00):
All right, five point fifteen.
Speaker 1 (00:01):
Now, as mentioned, Thadeus Cleveland, Terrell County Sheriff joining us
now with reaction to the news that Texas isn't going
to fund a border ball anymore.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Sheriff, Good morning, How are i sir?
Speaker 3 (00:11):
Hey, good morning, Bob. It's great to be back home
with you. Guys. How are you.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
It's good to talk to you. We're good, Thanks very much.
So what do you think about this? I mean, we
know that during the four years of the Biden administration,
they had no interest whatsoever in border security. They stopped
any of the construction of the border wall that we
had begun under President Trump, and then started selling off
some of the materials so that none of them could
be built.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
And Texas stepped up, right.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
The state government stepped up and said, well, then we'll
build one ourselves, you know, to the extent that we
can in counties like yours. But now they're not going
to anymore. Your reaction, yeah, Bob, so hey, it's not
a bad thing. The state's not going to build fence
any longer.
Speaker 4 (00:51):
Governor Abbott and the state certainly stepped up during the
last four years when, as you described, you know, the
federal government didn't want anything to do with it. But
now got you know, a president back in there under
President Trump, that's one wanting to re engage the border
and put in more security such as walls and other technologies.
So you know, Texas stepped up, but now it's time
(01:13):
to let the government get back in and do the thing.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
Yeah, and it's pretty amazing even without a new wall
or fencing or what have you. Since President Trump took
over in January, some extraordinary results. Ninety nine point nine percent.
I think was the last thing that I heard, fewer
crossings and I just I think it was yesterday they
said the numbers for May came out and zero, literally
(01:36):
zero illegal aliens were allowed into the country in the
month of May, compared to sixty two thousand that were
released into the United States in May one year ago.
What do you think when you hear numbers like that here?
Speaker 4 (01:50):
No, of course Taryl County being down on the border,
our numbers have been like the rest of the border,
I mean near near zero crossings. And when you talk
about that number as far as people being led in
the United States, that's another promise that President trumpet has
lived up to. No more catch and release, which means,
you know, somebody's caught and then under a special circumstance
they're allowed to come in the United States. So you know,
(02:13):
we're going to continue to see those numbers low. But
now it's time for Congress to do their job. President
Trump's done his part. Congress has to step up and
do theirs to finish building the wall and fund other
parts of border security.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
Yeah, and that's, of course, is going to be in
the big beautiful bill.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
And it's of course hung up on a whole lot
of other things, including spending and other issues. But it
should not be any issue whatsoever to get this thing
done with respect to border security, because right now, I
would imagine the folks down there in Tarrell County are
loving life without this massive influx. Can you tell me,
do you talk to your residence, what have you heard about,
(02:50):
you know, the way their lives are different over these
last six months compared to the way they were over
four years.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
Oh, yes, sir, most definitely.
Speaker 4 (02:57):
And of course, but before I retired from the Border
Patrol took over. Sure if I actually ran the station
in Tarroll County, the centers of Bord Patrol Station, and
and you know the last four years, like other locations
along the border, I mean, we had record levels of crossings,
but our landowners were the ones that are primarily affected
because Tarroll County, even though it's the tenth flares county
(03:18):
of the state, we're very rural and we'll have a
lot of population. But you know, the good thing is
we're not We're not going out into having to correspond
to people crossing the border legally or even deaths. You know,
we had a lot of death in Tarroll County due
to the hut and remote area that it is. So
all all around, it's been very good.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
Yeah, and I would imagine all of your ranchers and
those you know who own property in Tarroll County. Again,
it's seeing fewer numbers of people coming across, and you know,
as he poured out, you know they are putting themselves
in harms way obviously in the in the in the heat,
in these rural areas, and you see a lot of deaths,
but they also do a lot of damage to the land.
They do a lot of damage to the property. Uh
(04:01):
is there on their way up through to get into
another area. Are they are the ranchers and the folks
down there in Terroll County talking to you about that.
Are they reporting fewer, fewer incidents, fewer amounts of damage
and so on and so forth as the migrants worked
their way up north.
Speaker 4 (04:18):
You know, Bob, that's a great point that I did
leave off because again, you know, the the ranchers are
the ones that that suffer the most, if you will,
because of the tracks that's left behind, and it's hormful
to their their livestock, whether it's you know, the domestic
livestock or the wildlife in the area. And then you
have to talk about also their infrastructure, their their water lines,
(04:39):
and their fences that get damaged. So no, definitely it
has been less impactful on them. And again even when
it when it was at a higher level, the state
again stepped up and created a program to help reimburse
that owners that do have damage to their properties such
as cut fences and cut water lines. So you know,
(05:00):
they're definitely have been relieved of that at this point.
But my thing is always how again sustain this because
if President Trump, you know, is able to continue to
these keep these numbers down low, the next president that
comes in, are they going to also you know, focus
on border security so again, that's why I say it's
(05:21):
time for Congress to really enact and fund border security
and let's get this thing wrapped up.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
Amen, And that's that's what the big beautiful bill is
all about. It's a huge part of it anyways, about
that border security, so that it isn't something that can
just be undone by the next president by way of
an executive order.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
I can't tell you how I app.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
I am for you and every resident in a border
city or a border county because of all of the
you've had to endure with that massive invasion over the
course of the last four years life. There's got to
be so much more peaceful and safe and secure down
there because of this. So we're so glad to know that.
And Sheriff of Cleveland, thank you so much for coming
on and sharing the news with us.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
Thank you, Bob, God bless you.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
Bless you too, sir, thank you, thank you. That's that
is Cleveland Taroll County Sheriff. It's five point fifty seven.
Now this is Houston's Morning News.
All right, five point fifteen.
Speaker 1 (00:01):
Now, as mentioned, Thadeus Cleveland, Terrell County Sheriff joining us
now with reaction to the news that Texas isn't going
to fund a border ball anymore.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Sheriff, Good morning, How are i sir?
Speaker 3 (00:11):
Hey, good morning, Bob. It's great to be back home
with you. Guys. How are you.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
It's good to talk to you. We're good, Thanks very much.
So what do you think about this? I mean, we
know that during the four years of the Biden administration,
they had no interest whatsoever in border security. They stopped
any of the construction of the border wall that we
had begun under President Trump, and then started selling off
some of the materials so that none of them could
be built.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
And Texas stepped up, right.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
The state government stepped up and said, well, then we'll
build one ourselves, you know, to the extent that we
can in counties like yours. But now they're not going
to anymore. Your reaction, yeah, Bob, so hey, it's not
a bad thing. The state's not going to build fence
any longer.
Speaker 4 (00:51):
Governor Abbott and the state certainly stepped up during the
last four years when, as you described, you know, the
federal government didn't want anything to do with it. But
now got you know, a president back in there under
President Trump, that's one wanting to re engage the border
and put in more security such as walls and other technologies.
So you know, Texas stepped up, but now it's time
(01:13):
to let the government get back in and do the thing.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
Yeah, and it's pretty amazing even without a new wall
or fencing or what have you. Since President Trump took
over in January, some extraordinary results. Ninety nine point nine percent.
I think was the last thing that I heard, fewer
crossings and I just I think it was yesterday they
said the numbers for May came out and zero, literally
(01:36):
zero illegal aliens were allowed into the country in the
month of May, compared to sixty two thousand that were
released into the United States in May one year ago.
What do you think when you hear numbers like that here?
Speaker 4 (01:50):
No, of course Taryl County being down on the border,
our numbers have been like the rest of the border,
I mean near near zero crossings. And when you talk
about that number as far as people being led in
the United States, that's another promise that President trumpet has
lived up to. No more catch and release, which means,
you know, somebody's caught and then under a special circumstance
they're allowed to come in the United States. So you know,
(02:13):
we're going to continue to see those numbers low. But
now it's time for Congress to do their job. President
Trump's done his part. Congress has to step up and
do theirs to finish building the wall and fund other
parts of border security.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
Yeah, and that's, of course, is going to be in
the big beautiful bill.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
And it's of course hung up on a whole lot
of other things, including spending and other issues. But it
should not be any issue whatsoever to get this thing
done with respect to border security, because right now, I
would imagine the folks down there in Tarrell County are
loving life without this massive influx. Can you tell me,
do you talk to your residence, what have you heard about,
(02:50):
you know, the way their lives are different over these
last six months compared to the way they were over
four years.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
Oh, yes, sir, most definitely.
Speaker 4 (02:57):
And of course, but before I retired from the Border
Patrol took over. Sure if I actually ran the station
in Tarroll County, the centers of Bord Patrol Station, and
and you know the last four years, like other locations
along the border, I mean, we had record levels of crossings,
but our landowners were the ones that are primarily affected
because Tarroll County, even though it's the tenth flares county
(03:18):
of the state, we're very rural and we'll have a
lot of population. But you know, the good thing is
we're not We're not going out into having to correspond
to people crossing the border legally or even deaths. You know,
we had a lot of death in Tarroll County due
to the hut and remote area that it is. So
all all around, it's been very good.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
Yeah, and I would imagine all of your ranchers and
those you know who own property in Tarroll County. Again,
it's seeing fewer numbers of people coming across, and you know,
as he poured out, you know they are putting themselves
in harms way obviously in the in the in the heat,
in these rural areas, and you see a lot of deaths,
but they also do a lot of damage to the land.
They do a lot of damage to the property. Uh
(04:01):
is there on their way up through to get into
another area. Are they are the ranchers and the folks
down there in Terroll County talking to you about that.
Are they reporting fewer, fewer incidents, fewer amounts of damage
and so on and so forth as the migrants worked
their way up north.
Speaker 4 (04:18):
You know, Bob, that's a great point that I did
leave off because again, you know, the the ranchers are
the ones that that suffer the most, if you will,
because of the tracks that's left behind, and it's hormful
to their their livestock, whether it's you know, the domestic
livestock or the wildlife in the area. And then you
have to talk about also their infrastructure, their their water lines,
(04:39):
and their fences that get damaged. So no, definitely it
has been less impactful on them. And again even when
it when it was at a higher level, the state
again stepped up and created a program to help reimburse
that owners that do have damage to their properties such
as cut fences and cut water lines. So you know,
(05:00):
they're definitely have been relieved of that at this point.
But my thing is always how again sustain this because
if President Trump, you know, is able to continue to
these keep these numbers down low, the next president that
comes in, are they going to also you know, focus
on border security so again, that's why I say it's
(05:21):
time for Congress to really enact and fund border security
and let's get this thing wrapped up.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
Amen, And that's that's what the big beautiful bill is
all about. It's a huge part of it anyways, about
that border security, so that it isn't something that can
just be undone by the next president by way of
an executive order.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
I can't tell you how I app.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
I am for you and every resident in a border
city or a border county because of all of the
you've had to endure with that massive invasion over the
course of the last four years life. There's got to
be so much more peaceful and safe and secure down
there because of this. So we're so glad to know that.
And Sheriff of Cleveland, thank you so much for coming
on and sharing the news with us.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
Thank you, Bob, God bless you.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
Bless you too, sir, thank you, thank you. That's that
is Cleveland Taroll County Sheriff. It's five point fifty seven.
Now this is Houston's Morning News.
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