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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 2 (00:17):
Reporting live from the Energy Epics Center here at Sarah
Week where the brightest minds and the boldest ideas.

Speaker 3 (00:23):
And the energy converge.

Speaker 2 (00:25):
Today, I'm diving into cretic little conversations with two powerhouse leaders,
former Senator Mary Landrew, a Democrat from Louisiana, and former Rep.
Tim Bryan, Ohio. Both members are the Leadership Council Natural
Allies for a Clean Energy Fusion. So thank you for
joining me on the Energy Mix Radio Show.

Speaker 4 (00:47):
Thank you.

Speaker 2 (00:49):
So let's beak in by telling me a little bit
about the mission of what you guys are doing as
far as with the Allies with Leadership Council for Natural Allies,
we're clean and yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:04):
We're you know, basically an organization of industry leaders, unions
and more and more groups joining that are really talking
about the marriage between natural gas and renewable energy that
it doesn't need to be an either or conversation. It's both,

(01:26):
and we're primarily trying to focus on talking to Democrats
about the importance of natural gas to reduce carbon displace coal,
and partner with renewables to have a real American energy
system moving forward.

Speaker 2 (01:40):
Can you tell me is this what type of organizational
structure is it?

Speaker 3 (01:44):
Is it an after nonprofit? How long it's a nonprofit?
It's been around for about five years. It was the
vision of Alan Armstrong, who is a CEO of Williams Company,
which is a one hundred and fifty year old company
of the United States. And Alan woke up day and said,
we've got to do a better job of telling Americans
about the power and the possibilities of natural gas to

(02:07):
reduce emissions, strengthen our economy, grow jobs here in America.
And so he created Natural Allies And his tim said,
so we've grown, like, you know, beautifully over the last
couple of years, not just by you know, companies that
are in the oil and gas business or in the
gas business, but let's say, for instance, our partner, American

(02:29):
Clean Power, which is the largest clean power association in
the country, and they have joined with us because we
have a common message America needs more power. We want
it to be as reliable as durable and affordable. And
so having this marriage, if you will do a natural

(02:51):
gas which is reducing missions and renewables which also reduses emissions,
it's a beautiful marriage. And you know, it's a beautiful
union for a country that is literally desperately in need
of more power.

Speaker 2 (03:09):
How long is the organization been around? About five years.
Let's talk about high energy costs and the pressing issue
for many Americans. How do you what do you? First
of all, do you see the root of the problem
is what's causing this? And then how do we address
it effectively?

Speaker 3 (03:26):
Go ahead, Okay, Well we and that the science and
economics will show that one of the rude causes is
a constriction of access to energy by not having enough
natural gas pipelines flowing into your region or to your state,
not having enough transmission lines. So when you constrain access

(03:47):
and you limit supply, prices build up. I mean it
is the you know, supply and supply and demand. So
that is one cause. That's also what's causing prices to
go up. Are in our view, unrealistic green energy policies
that push aside the more affordable options for more expensive

(04:11):
new technologies that drive up the price and energy. So
right now today in America, people in California pay an
average of fifty one cents to kill a lot of
hour for their electricity. In Louisiana and in places like
Ohio we're paying thirteen to fifteen cents. So California is

(04:32):
rapidly pricing itself out of the market, not only for
people to afford to live there, but as importantly, businesses
can't afford to do business there because high energy prices.
Same things happening in New England. So the solution is
not to give up on our climate goals, but to reassess, recalibrate,

(04:54):
and put the economics squarely in balance with climate goals.

Speaker 4 (05:02):
At the same time you're constricting supply, demand is going down.
So AI overt at this conference from almost every speaker
has talked about AI reindustrialization of chip manufacturing, its electric vehicles, batteries,
all good stuff, which is why we're for both of
these things. But we want to see an increase in

(05:22):
the supply through the pipelines and permitting reform to meet
the demand. So the question really is do we want
to lead the world in artificial intelligence. Do we want
to dominate that industry and reap its benefits in healthcare
and education and building a construction and all of the
other areas that it's going to be helpful in or not,

(05:42):
Because if we don't get the energy thing right, we're
not going to be able to meet the demand for AI, blockchain,
these other things, and they're going to go offshore and
they're probably going to end up with places like China,
which will put us even in a more significant disadvantage.
And if you don't do that, and you ignore the
EV battery market, you'll see that to China too. That's why,

(06:04):
you know, Mary and I have said a many times
we're at a really critical stage in the country's history
right now because we get it wrong, we're going to
put ourselves with a significant disadvantage. To get it right,
we can lead the world economically and culturally for decades now.

Speaker 3 (06:19):
It's really an important inflection point. I mean, we don't
want to be overly dramatic or over state, but seriously,
we had not seen an increase in energy demand like
this in this country for the last twenty years. So
we're seeing instead of flat growth, not just one percent
a year. We're seeing three, four or five percent a

(06:40):
year in electricity demand. Like Tim said, we either get
this right and ride this wave and lead this economic renaissance.
Well we will, you know, we will seed the opportunity
to competitors like China who are just waiting to take

(07:02):
advantage of lives to make this mistake. And we're not
going to make this mistake. So our messages to Democrats
focus on the economy, focus on the affordability issue, focus
on building real jobs in the communities, and that's going
to take all of the above, no, eliminate any foolis,

(07:22):
and focus on reducing admissions and so increasing supply. And
it's very, very important, and we're challenging the democratic orthodoxy
on this. I mean, that's why Natural Allies was created
primarily to bring the message of the benefits of natural
gas national security benefits, economic benefits, climate benefits to the

(07:47):
Democrats who had really, I think, either stopped listening or
maybe the industries stopped talking to Democrats. I don't know.
To what you're thinking a little bit of both.

Speaker 2 (07:57):
You Well, well, let's talk about that, because it interesting
that you both are from the Democrat parties and passive
administration with somewhat hostile post but also in favor of
other energy screen so or when those types of and
Trump seems to President Trump seems to be the opposite. Finally,

(08:19):
there's a Secretary of Energy, Secretary of Interior that actually
has an understanding of how energy works pertaining to oil
and gas. My question specifically is policy measures of how
should Congress and federal agencies prioritize to make energy more
affordable for all, especially when we're talking about such a

(08:41):
vast change so quickly from a Democrat party. How does
your friends in your party, how are they receiving this
in the way. I mean, we understand how important natural
gas is. It's clean and bridge fuel necessary and as
there's an a bund in spite the lack of insight

(09:02):
and education has really been like even.

Speaker 3 (09:04):
So, let me let me just say one thing. I mean, yes,
President Biden in our view, in our view, was missed
the opportunity with really in all the above strategy and
and wasn't as open to natural gas as I think
could have been and should have been. And of course
the energy pause was a terrible political mistake as well

(09:25):
as an economic mistake. But I'll also say, President Trump
and his call against wind is also sort of equally like,
you're either we are truly all the above will win, solar, nuclear, gas,
thermal confusion, we need it all. So both neither party
has been actually completely correct on us, but with the

(09:47):
Democratic Party clearly the message from this last election is
the country is saying to Democrats, we believe please focus
on bread and butter issues. Please focus on the economy.
Please focus on price and cost of living. You can't
focus on that without focusing on the energy mix. The

(10:09):
energy mix is the anchor, the foundation of our economy.
So if your energy is too expensive because of policy
actions you've taken, then that doesn't you know, put you
in a good position to be able to reduce cost.
That's what people want. So what we're saying is build
more natural gas pipelines in pay attention to permitting reform.

(10:31):
We need to reform NETBOT, national you know, environmental you
know protection Associate, I mean national environmental statues need to
be reformed. And so those are some of the policies
that can be changed. And then also citing and you know,
being more open to putting these transmission lines and pipelines

(10:55):
in the ground. We hope our message is getting out.
We hope people can see the benefit of it, because
the consequences of it are pretty dire. I mean like
we will lose the academic race to China. The prices
will continue to go up, inflation will continue.

Speaker 5 (11:11):
To go up.

Speaker 3 (11:12):
It will not be a pretty sight. I would say,
you're absolutely correct. It's a shame.

Speaker 2 (11:17):
That's sire a week is not public to help everybody see.
Some of the tracks today and yesterday have really been
built around how important it is that we stay competitive
in China. When we're talking about being able to answer
all of our energy will be the one that is
actually leading it versus potentially losing it to China. So

(11:38):
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Speaker 2 (13:00):
And we're back. You're listening to the Energy Mix radio show.
Let's talk about permitting reform. It's hot topic. And so
what would a bypartisan bill look like for energy reform
that would be perfect for you?

Speaker 4 (13:13):
Yeah, well, I don't think we'll negotiate that right here,
but I think that the two main pieces of it
are what are you going to do for the transmission lines?
What are you going to do for the pipelines how
Those are the two main areas obviously that we need
to focus on. And then the question is how do
we have a reform, How do we use AI, how
do we use new technologies to speed up the process.

(13:36):
So we have you know, Mary tells a story about
a fifteen years.

Speaker 3 (13:40):
Fifteen year MS trans Weston transmission line took fifteen years.

Speaker 4 (13:48):
In that fifteen years, China put on hundreds of coal
fired power plants, right, So that's kind of the problem.
It'll take seven years on average eleven agencies, So how
do you stream line that process? And I think that's
part of what we're talking about that Democrats need to
embrace reform. This is not working, whether your for transmission

(14:10):
lines for wind and solar or your fur pipelines for
natural gas. Either way, it's messed up pretty bad and
the system is broken. So before that, and I think
that's you know, judicial review, and they'll go through all
kinds of different, you know, versions of it, but at
the end of the day, it's got to speed up.

Speaker 3 (14:30):
A building.

Speaker 4 (14:31):
The building of transmission.

Speaker 2 (14:32):
And so let me ask the question of both of
you guys, because I know we have a limited amount
of time. Your group Natural Allies for Clean Energy Future,
how is it going to influence public opinion? Any ideas
on that? I know y'all mentioned reaching across the aisle,
talking to your party, trying to get them involved in
understanding the importance of this bridge fuel and how it

(14:52):
plays apart well.

Speaker 3 (14:54):
Our strategy is to talk to Democratic leaders. You know,
we don't have I wish we had a multi billion
dollar budget, but we don't. We have a significant budget,
but we can't get on television radio pay for the ads.
So our strategy is to go and talk to Democratic governors,
to go talk to Democratic members of the Black Caucus,
that Hispanic Caucus, Democratic members of Congress. We've made presentations

(15:18):
to the leadership of state legislators. We've approached and spoken.
I just recently spoke at NEHRU, which is a National
Association of Utility Commissioners. So our goal is to speak
to Democratic leaders in hoping that they will process this
new information and also from us. They're also hearing from

(15:39):
their constituents at home that are saying my utility bills
are too high. I need want to see them lowered,
or we would like to have more high paying jobs
in our community. What can you do to get us energy?
So when we that's our strategy. I hope it's working.
But to be honest, I'll tell you it is as

(16:00):
proud as I am of the work that Natural Allies
has done and will continue to do. What's really waking
people up. I wish Tim and I were the one,
you know, getting them excited. But what's really waking them
up is this extraordinary increase in demand for power. And
these public officials are getting their doors knocked in saying hey,
I want to come to your state. I'm happy for

(16:22):
the land and everything, but I need power. And they
look up and they're like, oh, well, where are we
going to get it from. Well, you've got gas, you know,
but you've got to either put in a transmission line
to move the power to them, or you've got to
put a pipeline in. And that's what's waking people up.
And we're like, please, Democrats, pay attention to this, get
on the front side of this. Don't lose out on this.

Speaker 4 (16:43):
This is a real opportunity for our party, and one
of the things we did is we've partnered with Press
Policy Institute PPI, and they did a study of New England,
primarily Boston, where you can't get a gas pipeline in there,
and because of New York Democrat governor says no, Democratic
governor Massachusetts no. And so who's paying the price on that?

(17:08):
The consumer? The consumer? And primarily in our research, on
our research in black community census tracks, they have an
increase what's called an energy burt on cost and everything
else in the black community. So here again we're trying
to challenge the current Democratic orthodoxy on energy. You're saying

(17:32):
you're a Democrat, You're saying that the black community is
a major part of our coalition and has been, and
we have respect for this community, but yet your policies
are out of step with reality in some ways. And
who's paying the price for that the black community is, right,
the Latino community, the poor court Yeah, so it's it's

(17:53):
it's hitting the working class, the poor, which we say, well,
you know, they should vote for Democrat rats. And it's
not a coincidence that in that same census track in
Boston you saw the black community move some voters towards
Trump because he was talking about economics and what they
perceived as a common sense energy policy, and the Democratic

(18:18):
governor there and others are saying no, and they're they're
paying the price for So when we're talking to Democrats leaders,
we're trying to get the message to them like we're
hurting the very people that we're supposed to be help
we're supposed to be and it's it's kind of a
little bit maddening.

Speaker 8 (18:36):
We have to do that.

Speaker 2 (18:37):
But well, there are some very great books that I
have read in helping me understand the energy dynamics as
I'm not born into the oil and gas industry either,
just reporting on it too. A moral case self fuel
right case book also feels by all exceptein is great.
It gives an example of how countries, thirboral countries, how

(18:59):
if you're an energy poverty, you're not you're in poverty.
Lives are shortened corrects. They don't have accrued short lives
right when you don't have that absolutely, And so I
don't think it's a matter of Democrats and Republicans if
we look at it as much as you know, if
they can understand that the way out for their constituents

(19:20):
is through having an abundance of energy, which we have here.
That's that's the solid way out. And there's some great
research and then there's also some great books that just
kind of push it out there and show them that
it really is for the constituents.

Speaker 4 (19:34):
Well, as you move up the economic ladder, one is
you're producing your wealthier, your healthier, You're less of a
burden on the system as a whole. You also have
less kids, you know. I mean, it's not it's a
way to address climate kind of a bank shot, but

(19:55):
it's also again lifting people out of poverty. That's more
people around to solve our global challenges that we have.
They're more educated, yeah, and they're just you know, overall,
they're doing better on living better lives. And so we
can say, yeah, let's export it to Africa and lift
up the forest people in the world, but let's also

(20:16):
get it to Boston and New York in Los Angeles,
because if we want to be a competitive country, they're
going to move up the economic ladder. They're going to
be more skilled, more educated, help us compete against China.
So this is tied to everything. In marriage very articulate
about saying this how this is the almost the foundational
issue in the country because it does lead to growth

(20:39):
and development and upward mobility for people.

Speaker 2 (20:42):
Thank you both for coming stopping by our studio and
not gooes about what you guys are working on and
good luck. Let us an persent that we can help
you with.

Speaker 3 (20:48):
Thank you, Thank you, I appreciate thank you.

Speaker 2 (20:51):
So let's take a quick break. You're listening to the
Energy Mixed Radio show and we'll be right back. And
we're back. You're listening to the Energy Mixed Radio Show
and joining me in studio as we cover Sarah Week
is the president of the Hispanics and Energy along with
a few key people in this organization. I want to
like Hosa to welcome you to the studio along with

(21:13):
Nicholas and James. Let's begin, gentlemen, introducing yourselves. Tell us
a little bit about who you are, and then we'll
get into what we're covering here at Sarah Week and
who we just finished listening to. Let's say, tell us
a little bit about you and the mission of Hispanics
and Energy.

Speaker 5 (21:26):
Thank you very much, Kim, and for this opportunity great
to speak to the public of this I am the
president of Hispanics and energy. We're a national nonprofit group
and our mission is real simple, and that is to
increase the Hispanic presence in the energy set.

Speaker 2 (21:44):
And Nicholas tell us a little about yourself too. You're
with Exonomobile.

Speaker 5 (21:48):
Thank you. Kem extraordinary that we're sitting today, Sarah. We
hear Secretary Bergen because really gave us a snapshot of
provision of the new administration. Who's putting energy dominance that's
priority for our country. And he really spoke about the
balance sheet of our country. I mean that balance it.
We got resources, we got people, and on the other side,

(22:11):
we got liabilities and wether debt, we get national security concerns.
And we believe that energy and he said are very
clearly is going to be that catalyst that it's going
to put us in control of our destiny. And really fascinating.
I've been coming to Serve week for nearly thirty years,
by being an exit model for thirty three, I've never
heard somebody speak sore readily about the priorities that we

(22:32):
have as an attering. I heard for the first time
mentioning growth, new opportunities, new fields from Alaskan all the
way down to the southern state. It's going to go
of America, and I think it's exciting for every American
from the world that we're going to play in getting
to the end energy dominance that we need in order
to put America as the world leader that we are.

Speaker 2 (22:52):
Absolutely, James, tell us a little bit welcoming. James, Please
tell us a little bit about You're from the Commonwealth
of Virginia. Who's your boss us and what brings you
to Sarah Week.

Speaker 9 (23:01):
So currently my adoss is Governor Glennie Younkin to the
Comwealth Virginia. I serve as the Deputy Secretary of conin l.

Speaker 4 (23:08):
Shrake.

Speaker 9 (23:09):
Energy is my portfolio prior to that, I shave Trump
administration as this is the secretary to the Department of Energy.

Speaker 2 (23:16):
So we have in studio today the President of Hispanic Chamber,
Hispanics and Energy. We're also happening a long time executive
with exceon Mobile, and we also have an elected official
representative here. I think this is a very different, diverse
group of gentlemen here and how you guys are going
to see We just finished listening to Secretary of Interior

(23:38):
Doug Bergham, who had a lot to say I was
very surprised, pleasantly surprised. And Nicholas, you told us a
lot about your thoughts. Let's say, and James, please tell
me what your thoughts.

Speaker 3 (23:51):
What did you pick up.

Speaker 2 (23:52):
From Burgess's secretary Burgus's discussion? What grabbed you?

Speaker 5 (23:56):
Well, lots of praptists and even before today, because his
Banks and Energy actually officially supported the confirmation of Secretary
Burden to be Secretary of Interior. So and we participated
in the confirmation here we can senate. But the reason
we did that is because the President has laid out
of vision which was articulated today by the Secretary, that

(24:17):
makes energy dominant dominance for the country of the United
States here in America. And what that means for us
is that since our purpose is to increase the presence
of hispanis in the energy sector, we're looking at a
four trillion dollar business. That means he's going to double
to an eight trillion. They have twelve million workers right now.
That means that the industry is going to have twenty

(24:39):
four million. If you look at the population group where
twenty percent of the national population and our kids already
represent twenty five percent of twelve well, gets who the
workers are going to be. It's going to be lucky
his banks, and so we're very excited about that. What
that means is we've got to coordinate with our community.
We got to get our people prepared for those jobs.
We've got to get our business owners to get ready

(25:00):
for the business opportunities that are going to present themselves.
And then we have to start is to learn about
the marketplace and we have to develop. We have a
larger number of cars in their homes, We use natural
guys at home for cooking, and we use electricity for
our homes. So that means that are the value chain
in the marketplace is incredible for inspects.

Speaker 2 (25:21):
James, what was your thoughts on Secretary of Burgs and
his speech today?

Speaker 4 (25:26):
The Secretary was very inspiring.

Speaker 9 (25:28):
I thought that the overall message is all the above energy,
it's our economy. Energy is our economy. It really divides
the habit appcots. I love the priority keeping the America
reliant and sustainable and reliable on energy, and that is
probably one of the cruci most crucial things that we
could be is making sure we health the energy economy,

(25:50):
because again it is our economy. Completely without energy, we
cannot do the advancements of AI in all the data
centers coming from the COMMAK Virginia. We have a huge
move of generation need and unleashing our energy resources, at
leashing everything that we have in our country within our
borders to allow us to be energy secure, energy dominant,
an energy exporterer is a huge, huge issue, a huge

(26:13):
advantage for our country. We have it here within our borders.
We have to do a better job. And here in
his message show of optimism and creating less barriers for this,
such as cletting down regulations, allowing the businesses to thrive,
allowing us as a country to be successful in what
we do best. That's ingenuity, that's that's creating opportunities, and

(26:34):
that's that's helping the rest of the world eventually. So
it's really important that we have energy as a cornerstone.
And you can see within his voice his passion and
of course the President's you know, mission and make sure
that we're not again energy stable or energy dominant. I
think it's very important for us and caring forward.

Speaker 2 (26:49):
So let's take a quick break. You're listening to the
Energy Mix radio show, and we'll be right back. And
we're back you're listening to the Energy Mixed radio show.
Let's pivot and switch and let's talk about Hispanics in
energy specifically, Nicholas, you work for Exonomobile. This is pretty

(27:11):
much your entire job is to look at diversity. You're
Hispanic as well. Tell me the importance of the role
that Hispanics and energy. First of all, we know that
they took a huge voting pool voted for Trump. That

(27:31):
was something that is near. But Hispanics in energy, the
numbers don't support and we have a lot of diversity
when we talk about energy. You are actually a part
of this organization. Your thoughts on how important is this
organization to Texas, how important is this organization in energy?

(27:51):
How do we increase those numbers? And then we'll say
you'll be next.

Speaker 5 (27:56):
Oh, thank you, thank you, Kim. Look, Latinos are and
as Americans right, we're looking for the opper candies. And
a lot of what we heard today was about to
high paying US, high paying jobs. My career at X
and Mobile has been a lover of the world. South
America could do the least to Russia and Alaska. And

(28:19):
I heard today the Secretary talk about opening new frontiers
that we thought were closed. Latinos will be central it,
just like every other American will be to I mean
you look at the Permian base, which is the most
prolific basin that we had. It's nine out of ten
students in Midland today but are graduating from high school?
Are Latinos? Are Americans that we need to make sure

(28:42):
they play a role in the energy dominance that the
President instituted. Googles forward right. So early in my career
at X and Mobile, I started the Latino Employee Resource Group,
the Global Organization for the Advancement of Latino Akino Speaker
at last year despite the care of Japan's was Hoose,
and I introduced Jose to my Latino network. I remember

(29:05):
when we started that organization more than twenty years ago,
there were twenty of us that don't say it was
able to witness about a thousand of us that were
there in person, was virtual throughout the United States. That's
the power that our community with the wings, our community,
like all Americans, will play a fundamental role in taking
doc dominance into reality. And I couldn't be proader, you know,

(29:29):
to be here. It' cheer week. I hear the secretaries
Victor Bars that we've been asking for years, because for
years Latinos have been saying, we want opportunities, we want jobs,
we want new pipelines, we want new ways in which
we can produce oil and gas that can make the
America and energy the world rather than importing from other countries.

(29:51):
It's the energy that we need. We want to export
to our allies, right, I mean, look, I spent half
my career working abroad. What better way than to actually
produce the energy here at the United States so we
can expert of support our ways.

Speaker 2 (30:06):
You know all well, So let me ask you. You
are the president of this steamed nonprofit organization, give me
the numbers. You may not have them exact, but how
much in the energy sector, rather it's up mid down.
How much is actually covered by Hispanics? Do you have

(30:29):
those numbers? Are we represented well.

Speaker 5 (30:32):
In what you said gas sector, it's about twenty But
as Nicolaska just mentioned, a lot of them are in
the shell place like Freminium Basin that's in West Texas
and the southern part of New Mexico. If you look
at the shell place all across the country, Hispanics has

(30:53):
gone to those jobs because they're well paying jobs and
they're better than for they keep up a lot and pleeve,
we're not or a farm or they were working in mechanics.
They were working in vocational occupations.

Speaker 10 (31:09):
Uh.

Speaker 5 (31:09):
And the unions have come to us and they both
Our workers in this field are increasing with the Hispanics
because they're they're now starting to elect officers of the
unions in their states because of the large number of
Latinos that are coming into the business as workers. The

(31:30):
challenge for us are in the energy stem occupations of professionals,
account of the scientists.

Speaker 2 (31:37):
That I was going to ask you, how much has
representative in the executive management in energy sector?

Speaker 5 (31:43):
In the energy sector told there's three thousand energy companies
in America and we have twenty five Latinos eos today,
but when we started his banks in energy twelve years ago,
we had zero. So they're making some good job. We're
making jobs.

Speaker 2 (31:59):
There you go, James, let's switch to you and take
it from an elected official standpoint, Your boss, how important
is the Hispanic population? I mean, I know you're going
to tell me it's vital, but for what reasons and
grounds do you think that the Hispanics electric Christians are
looking at this population and really taking notice that we

(32:21):
have a role to play, not just as voters, but
if you're specifically here and we're talking about energy, what
ways are elected officials looking at this group and figuring
out how to utilize this best to grow especially in energy.

Speaker 9 (32:36):
You know, I think I think you know on and
thank you for the question. You know, it's something I
also did a lot at the Marget Energy part of
my job you over there. It's vital that we increase
our spasion of Hispanics, all groups within energy. First of all,
it's a growing economy. Second, if you look at k
through twelves I was, I said, but jury minority soon

(32:58):
as a natural security issue to actually include more and
more of the populations within the fabric of energy or
else we're in trouble. We can h one be out
of this issue like we have done in Silicon Valley
for instance, in some of the other industries. This has
to be home bred. We have the talent here, We
have our diverse communities, you know, within Texas, within the

(33:20):
United Stations in general. The voter base of course always
accorded with all politicians, but the real importance economic power
and gateway to opportunities. Energy is a gateway for opportunities
unseated before in other areas. We can't mess what I
mean by week, Thepanic community cannot admits this opportunity to
be on this trade. It's right now. It's more prolifically

(33:42):
it has ever been. You know, go back twenty years
ago and you would hear much about energy outside of
the conversations that were common. Now it's everything because of AI,
because of the data center, it's because of the environment,
because of the opportunity, it's because of other areas needing
more generation. In every front page, very newspaper, it's in

(34:02):
all the news programming, it's in conversations every day amongst
this kitchen and kitchen table conversations. It is vital that
we actually aim to braying Thispanic community because this is
our country and this is an ability that this spans
can play vital role, a necessary role into throwing the

(34:23):
energy economy. So it's important in all aspects, and it's
something that I believe that everyone is taking note of.
And also everyone is putting at premium onond exclusions.

Speaker 2 (34:34):
Yes, absolutely, Joe, Let's take a quick break. You're listening
to the energy Mix radio show and we'll be right back.

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Speaker 2 (35:48):
You're listening to the Energy Mix radio show. Can we
talk a little bit about pipelines, the development of pipelines.
How do you envision the Great City of Alaska the
energy future when we talk about pipeline.

Speaker 8 (35:59):
Right, we have a normal amounts of gas that we
want to monetize, and it seems like every year we're
finding more gas in the state of Alaska. Well, our
Asian allies need gas, they need reliable gas. They need
American gas, to be honest with you, so they have certainty.
Alaska actually pioneered LG export in the Western world nineteen

(36:19):
sixty four. The first planet went online in Algeria in
nineteen sixty nine. Alaska was exploring gas that Japan. We
did that for fifty years reliably. And so Alaska has
a tradition, a history of shipping gas to Asia, Japan,
but now Japan, Korea, Taiwan, Vietnam, Thailand, Philippines, we're all

(36:39):
looking for a gas to diversify their gas and Alaska
is a perfect opportunity for this to happen again. It
also helpens in it helpens helps Alaska in state with
our own residents, but more importantly, our Asian anallies can
rely on America for decades and decades and decades clean

(37:00):
elastic gas.

Speaker 2 (37:02):
Let's talk about carbon capture as well. What do you
see in the way of carbon capture and storage for Alaska?
What's your energy strategy there?

Speaker 8 (37:10):
We can store estimated at least one hundred and fifty
giga tons of carbon one hundred and fifth thousand giga
tons of carbon in both cook Inlet and on the slope.
And for example cook Inlet, which is a completed oil
and gas field, this is where we sent the gas
to Japan for fifty years. There's incredible horse space there

(37:30):
and we've we passed the law with the regulations have
done as well on the ability to sequest their gas there.
So we are in discussions with some outfits in Japan
at doing just that. Incredible opportunities to sequest the CO
two again, both in cook Lit, cook In Lit and
on the slope and in other areas of Alaska that
we still have to map out. So carbon, whether it's carbon,

(37:53):
whether it's oil, whether it's gas again, whether it's minerals,
whether it's timber. Alaska's got it all.

Speaker 2 (38:00):
Talk about the environmental groups that are opposing full projects
everywhere as a seasoned elected official or used to dealing
with them, or are we ever really used to dealing
with them? But how are you going to take on
some of these projects now in light of the new administration?
Are any plans you have to try to maybe build
a bridge between these groups so they can see the benefits.

Speaker 8 (38:22):
I think they're very smart groups, the people evolved. I
don't think it's an issue of education. They know that
we can develop resources in America and Alaska better than
anywhere else in the world. They don't care. They want
to shut down in America. They want to shut down
in Alaska. And when you do that and you send

(38:43):
it overseas, you just degrade the environment even even more
so absolutely in your jobs, opportunity to national security overseas.
So you know what I've learned over the years is
I've thought, like you just mentioned, that these groups just
needed more facts, more figures on facts and figures. They
just want any of this to stop in America out

(39:06):
And you know, I thought they were environmentals.

Speaker 2 (39:09):
But what's the purpose of this?

Speaker 3 (39:10):
Do we have to know?

Speaker 8 (39:11):
That's the essential question. I thought they were environmentalists. But
if you willingly know that when you ship this stuff overseas,
that you're going to wreck the environment overseas, there's no protections.
You're going to support dictatorships through these actions. You're going
to ship jobs over national security over you're going to
You could care less about child labor or minorities being persecuted.

(39:33):
They don't really care about that. They care about shutting
down this country. And that's what the rest of us
have to accept. It's not about making the environment safer.
We do it better here than anywhere else in the world.
It's about killing these industries in this country and social
engineering this country. And there's something that doesn't resemble today.
So there are actually I have commanded respects the enemy

(39:54):
of this country and they need to be dealt with.

Speaker 2 (39:57):
How how much thought and discussion has gone into the
new administration on looking at how to help Alaska. I
know that spin some announcements with you.

Speaker 8 (40:08):
Again, the executive orders they support for the big natural
gas pipeline. President Trump mentioned this in the State of
the States of Beach two State of the Units Beach
the Congress. He has mentioned that Alaska is a solution
to many problems, and see rather than try to kill
a number of birds in one stone it's not just
about resource development, but it's about how do you tackle

(40:30):
this thirty four trillion dollar debt that we have and
these debt payments. You can't just keep praying money. So
he understands basic economic you have to produce something of wealth. Well,
in Alaska's case, that's loyal that's gas, that's minerals, that's
rare orbs, that's timber. So right now, if you don't
produce that, there is really no value in the ground.

(40:52):
But once you start to produce and develop with those resources,
you create new wealth. So you're not borrowing money off
of our kids and our grandkids. You're creating a wealth
now to help pay down debt and do help service
all that you know, the goods and services that America
runs on.

Speaker 2 (41:09):
So I'm going to circle back around because I have
one last question after this question. Your scheduled to speak
at Sarah Wis to us in two days from now.
Anything you want to share with us in just a
little bit of what you're going to discuss.

Speaker 8 (41:21):
It's surely what we just talked about, but that this
is going to be Alaska's We think the next fifty
years really the Alaska centric because of the Pacific. We
are closer to Japan, for example, than any other state.
We are a thousand miles closer to Australia, even in California.
So we're Western Pacific sovereign, We're a Northern Pacific sovereign,

(41:45):
and we're an Arctic saw. So with the melting of
the Arctic, with the political alliances that were strengthening in Asia,
and with the world looking at gas is the underlying
fuel for data farms, electrification, Alaska is going to be
at this center. That's what we're going to talk about.

Speaker 2 (42:02):
So I would like to end this show with the
Permanent Fund vivid it. Can you talk to us about
what that is?

Speaker 8 (42:11):
Sure is it?

Speaker 2 (42:12):
Sure do seem like a wonderful thing for the residents
of Alaska. And it's all driven by, of course, good
old energy.

Speaker 8 (42:18):
Yeah. So, when oil was discovered on the North Slope
and we knew it was going to be a huge,
enormous find over the last decades, some enlightened politicians and
others developed what we call the Alaska Permanent Fund and
they put put it out to the vote of the people.
Saw in nineteen seventy six, the people voted to put
this fund in the constitution so that politicians couldn't touch

(42:38):
the port with their fund. Today, we have about eighty
billion dollars in the fund. It's arguably the second largest
sobber and wealth fund in the world for capita, and
it has paid out a dividend tens of billions of
dollars over the years to Alaska's about approximately today, approximately
six hundred and sixty thousand Alaskans get a dividend from

(42:58):
this fund. So it helps the pay for government and
it helps the pay for a Dibden. And again, the
idea behind that was to turn a non renewable resource
such as oil into a renewable resource for the people
of lastep for forever, quite frankly, through investments, and so
far it's worked really do.

Speaker 2 (43:17):
So what my research reflects, it's not completely verified. Twenty
twenty five, just to give our listeners an idea, each
resident received one seven and two dollars. Yeah, and that's
a lot of money.

Speaker 8 (43:29):
Yeah, and in many ways it could be larger too.
The legislature decided to put more of that money into government,
but nonetheless, the residents of Alaska and the economy of
Alaska donefy greatly from the firm your Fund and the
Dividend No Doubt.

Speaker 2 (43:45):
Governor Dan Levy, thank you for joining me on the
Energy Mixed Radio Show.

Speaker 8 (43:49):
Absolutely thanks for having me.

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