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Speaker 1 (00:03):
It's that time time, time, time, luck and load.

Speaker 2 (00:11):
So Michael Very Show is on the air, and now
a totally random week in review from the past. Take
a guess when this was.

Speaker 3 (00:23):
This song is so bad that Peter Stara turned it down.
Peter said, Tara said it was too sappy.

Speaker 2 (00:36):
Just we're gonna give it to Brian Anna give it
to him. That sucker to do anything hard to say
I'm sorry and glory of love. But this this is
the line too far. But you're gonna have to do.
You're the inspiration. Ah Man.

Speaker 4 (00:55):
Please say a mother is accused of shooting our thirteen
year old sons, We're gonna argue.

Speaker 5 (01:00):
According to Precinct fort, they say around five point thirty
they got a call saying that the mom and the
son were fighting each other and let's go a verbal
disturbance and ultimately let her to fire her handgun and
striking the child.

Speaker 2 (01:11):
I mean, I don't think the average mom wants to
shoot her thirteen year old son. And a thirteen year
old kid can drive a mother absolutely up the wall.
I know. I certainly did my mom hit me with
a broom one time, I mean walat me with a broom,
and I had a bruise the next day.

Speaker 6 (01:28):
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one beer.

Speaker 7 (01:33):
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Speaker 2 (01:41):
Ultra, raising Cain. No s he don't own it. He's
raising Cain and Mitchello. Oh, Mitchello, Ultra.

Speaker 8 (01:50):
You and me the dark, counting the stars.

Speaker 2 (01:57):
The worst day of fishing is better than the best
day at work. And I'm one of these people's like
to cast more than I like to catch. Fitch Why
I can't fly fish? I like to throw it out
there bringing in. That's why I don't hire guides anymore
because they'll go, uh, you do a wire cast? Won't
you let it sit down for a minute? Oh no,
I need some action. Constant Gramona, you're using the in

(02:18):
word constantly, and I'm using it even more often. It's
the new inward. Ashani Mufuku by a vowel Lady, is
a self described cultural competency coach. That's always cute. You
get these people who run around white people love to
hire black people to tell them how awful they are.

(02:41):
She's a cultural competency coach, confident communications strategist, and the
host and producer of The Anti Racism School is in
Session podcast. Well, she has a list of words and
phrases that are just as bad as the IN word,
and I fear that I use them all so as

(03:02):
an anti racist. Apparently she's anti Michael Barry. Here is
her list and ramon, we'll just I'll just ask you
to give a dean on each one of them. If
you think I use that word often. Okay, these are
the new in words you awfuol people out there. She's
telling you what words you cannot use because they are
the inWORD.

Speaker 9 (03:21):
Ten ways you say the N word without saying the
N word. If you use any of these terms or
phrases in reference to black people, you are just as
racist as the person that actually uses the N word.
Here are the words thug, ghetto, welfare, queen, lazy, race, fader,
race s grifter, threatening, angry, dangerous, or you say that

(03:41):
we're playing the victim or we are a diversity higher.

Speaker 2 (03:44):
What you actually mean to say is the N word.
Just stop it.

Speaker 9 (03:48):
If you say these words are phrases, you are calling
us the N word. If you say these ignorant racist
terms or phrases around your children. You're also teaching your
children to be racist just like you. So I have
good news and bad news for you. Here's the bad news,
you're not as non racist as you thought you were,
and you're certainly not anti racist.

Speaker 2 (04:06):
Here's the good news.

Speaker 9 (04:07):
You can unlearn all the racist crap you've been taught
and reject white supremacist ideologies that you've believed.

Speaker 2 (04:14):
For your entire life.

Speaker 10 (04:16):
But can I pay you for the privilege a Shani?
Will you lecture me? In the meantime? I bet some
people will put put a ball a ball gag and.

Speaker 2 (04:32):
A leather skull cap and dog chain and have a
Shawnee lead them around and whip them and tell them
how awful they are and what racist they are for
all the phrases they use to describe the racist like
Ashani Mufoko. What's funny is half of those words she's
describing she's engaged in right now, race drifting, race baiting,

(04:56):
victim syndrome. Anytime you start with somebody being a cult,
vital competency coach and a confident communication strategist, I think
you're none of those things, lady. I think you're a
fraud and a great What do they read the thing again?
And let's stop them with each one. Here we go
ten ways.

Speaker 9 (05:13):
You say the IN word without saying the N word.
If you use any of these terms or phrases in
reference to black people, you are just as racist as
the person that actually.

Speaker 2 (05:21):
Uses the N word. Oh okay, here are the words. Thug. Yeah, thug.
That's a good one. That's a good one. It's actually
a word that came from India. Believe it or not. Yeah,
a thug is a word that came from India, And
I think we all know what a thug is when
we see it. It's good to have such words because
otherwise people might refer to someone who is a thug
as a black person, and every black person is not

(05:45):
a thug. So you got a thug who's a thug
and he's engaged in thuggery. So when that thug is
thugging and you say, yeah, there was a thug, you
have to have a way you can say it that
isn't related to the color. So when a thug is thugging,
nobody's calling you a thug. If you're not a thug

(06:08):
because you're black, so no, all right, next ghetto ghetto.
Oh you're guilty again. So Ray s Grifter says that
saying these things are the same as the N word,
But that's not true.

Speaker 8 (06:20):
It's wrong to make fun of people, you know, but
it's so fun sometimes. I've written for some TV shows,
and you know, on a major TV show, you have
to be careful about what you say about people because
a lot of people can get offended, or so it has.

Speaker 2 (06:31):
Been explained to me. I was once. I'll tell you this.

Speaker 8 (06:35):
I was writing for an awards show once and I
got into some trouble. I wrote a joke for this
awards show that had the word midget in it, and
someone from the network came down to our offices and
he said to me, hey, you can't put the word
midget on TV. And I said, I sure would like to,
and he said, no, midget is as bad as the
END word. First off, no, no, no, it's not. Do

(07:01):
you know how I know it's not, I said to him,
is because we're saying the word midget and we're not
even saying what the N word is. If you're comparing
the badness of two words and you won't even say
one of them. That's the worst word. Also, I don't
mean the gloss over, but like little people have.

Speaker 2 (07:21):
Been through in this country.

Speaker 8 (07:22):
But you cannot compare the plight of midgets to African Americans.

Speaker 2 (07:25):
That is outrageous.

Speaker 8 (07:26):
Midgets were never enslaved unless you count the walka factory.

Speaker 2 (07:33):
So we get into this argument. We're going back and forth.

Speaker 8 (07:35):
He goes, you can't put that word on TV.

Speaker 2 (07:36):
And I said, I want to.

Speaker 8 (07:37):
And he goes, if you put that word on TV,
there could be a protest of midgets on this building.

Speaker 2 (07:42):
And I said, promise.

Speaker 9 (07:47):
The term intercourse on your program, Michael.

Speaker 2 (07:50):
Barry if it's a story for journalistic purposes. Department Assistant
Secretary for Financial Markets, and he is our guest, Luke,
I guess the first question is what exactly is this account?
Who qualifies for it? When does it begin? Yeah, So
the Trump Accounts.

Speaker 6 (08:11):
Which are going to go live on the fourth of
July next year, are really a transformational program that are
going to open up investment accounts for children under eighteen
starting next year to allow them to build you know,
real net worth for their futures, allow them to harness
the power of compound growth, and give them a stake
in America's future, and so as america and economy grows,

(08:34):
so does their net worth. And so these will be
broad based investment accounts that will be investing in US
stock indices, ensuring that, you know, families and children's get
simple and transparent and affordable growth.

Speaker 2 (08:45):
Options for them.

Speaker 6 (08:47):
But it will be essentially an investment account that they
will have and let it grow. Their parents and their
parents employers will contribute to and once I turn eighteen,
it'll for traditional wroth or traditional rather.

Speaker 8 (09:00):
You know.

Speaker 2 (09:00):
I've talked on their in fact as recently as yesterday
about the fact that growing up in a working class home,
parents didn't go to college, nobody in our family ever had,
and the idea of you saved your money, the idea
of investing was not something that was ever discussed. And

(09:21):
I realized as I got much older that if you
will start putting money in the earlier the better. A
little money consistently over a lot of time turns out
to be a great deal of money. And there is
this idea that you earn it and you save it,
but investing is how you create real wealth. And I

(09:42):
love the idea of encouraging people to understand that sooner
rather than later. You're exactly right.

Speaker 6 (09:51):
And if you think about it, those first formative years
when a child is growing up, if they have money
sitting in a savings account from their parents since not
being invested, that they're losing out on a lot of returns.

Speaker 2 (10:03):
Since ninety fifty.

Speaker 6 (10:03):
Seven, the S and P five hundred is delivered an
average annual return of ten point five percent.

Speaker 2 (10:09):
I mean, that's a lot of money.

Speaker 6 (10:10):
And if you think about it, even this thousand dollars
seed which children born between calendars twenty five through twenty
eight will get, that alone, compounded at that rate for
sixty five years is six.

Speaker 2 (10:20):
Hundred and seventy four thousand dollars.

Speaker 6 (10:22):
I mean, we're talking about a lot of compound investment
over the course of their life. And then when you
think about the engagement that children will have with these accounts,
learning about what is compounding, what is investing, and how
do I plan for my future so I can have
a nest egg for when I'm older and ready for retirement.
This is this is a profound and powerful paradigm shift

(10:42):
we're about to witness here.

Speaker 2 (10:44):
Luke gets It's amazing. Luke Pettitt is our guest. Treasury
Department Assistant Secretary for Financial Markets. I started a Robinhood
account for my kids when they were in middle school,
and it was fascinating to me how all of a
sudden they were interested in investing. They wanted to talk
about particular companies and their stock future and disclosures that
they had made that might potentially harm their stock price,

(11:05):
are new announcements of products that they were launching. They
began to understand how capital funds deals, and how capital
is liquid and how it moves, and how capital gets scared,
and how capital gets excited and sometimes that exuberance can
be silly, and sometimes the fear can be nonsensical. But
understanding that this is the underpinning of how our economy works,

(11:29):
particularly as regards public companies, it was amazing to me
how this was the best thing. You know. You know,
you try to explain these things on long driving trips.
It's not until their money is at play. I started
them checking accounts and gave them access, and it was
amazing how all of a sudden, when they had to
pay for their own things, things that made sense. Before

(11:49):
you know, Crockett was having his sports team over to
the house and we've always done raising canes for all
the kids. And he said, I don't think we need
to have food for it was for his young life group.
I don't think we need to have food for the event.
My wife said, well why not? We always do. I
don't think anybody likes it. Well, he didn't want to
have to pay for it. So all of a sudden,
money makes sense. There's a cost to things, and I

(12:11):
think the earlier that kids can learn these things the better.
That's right, It comes down to ownership.

Speaker 6 (12:17):
In these programs, these Trump accounts are going to give
every child an ownership stake in the American economy, American companies,
and a first hand experience with capitalism and markets in
a way.

Speaker 2 (12:29):
That would be hard to deliver otherwise.

Speaker 6 (12:31):
And so it's filling a gap that I don't think
people realize needed to be filled until President Trump really
leaned in in the working family and tax cuts that
we saw past earlier this summer. And like I said before,
we're about to see a transformational shift in how children
are viewing capitalism, the markets, and their stake in the
American economy.

Speaker 2 (12:50):
I love it, I absolutely love it. We're talking about
children born beginning January first of this year. So if
you have a baby that was born in this calendar
year and that goes through the end of twenty twenty eight,
so December thirty, first of twenty twenty eight. It is
a pilot program. That's who qualifies. Look, how did you
end up in the Department of Treasury. You know I was.

Speaker 6 (13:14):
I had the pleasure of being nominated by the President
to fill the role for Assistant Secretary for Financial Institutions.
Secretary Bessons places trust in me to fulfill this role,
and as part of that, I've been tasked with helping
ensure the Treasury Department, which is leading the implementation of
Trump Accounts. You know that we have a successful launch
on the fourth of July because of how important this

(13:35):
program is.

Speaker 2 (13:37):
But by the grace of God.

Speaker 6 (13:37):
I got here, and I'm honored to be here in
this building working for Secretary Vessin and for President Trump.
But one thing on your point earlier, it's not just
for kids who are born in January first, twenty five
through the end of twenty eight any children can create
these accounts. And you know Michael Dell's historic announcement on
Tuesday six point twenty five billion dollars. That's two hudred

(13:58):
fifty dollars per child from twenty five million Americans. And
that expands the scope of eligible children who can not
only create accounts, but also receive a seed an investment
to start and to base their investments off of.

Speaker 2 (14:12):
You know, it's amazing. I saw a chart the other
day that if every person would contribute from when they're
a child one dollar into an investment, what that number
will be by the time they're thirty forty to fifty sixty.
You're talking about retirement level dollars. And we can each
set aside a dollar. That's easy enough to do. It's
amazing to get people to start thinking in terms of

(14:33):
not just saving, but investing and putting your work, your
money to work, and creating more wealthe I love the concept.
Look Pettitt, Treasury Department Assistant Secretary for Financial Markets. Thank you,
good sir, thanks for having me to day. The first
I've been destroying the black community is to dismantle the
black family. Michael Barry, Joe, why don't we ask missus

(14:53):
Willie Brown?

Speaker 8 (14:54):
If Kamala Harris cares about black families.

Speaker 2 (14:57):
I just ask the mom Ramone does all the music
sound everything like that while we're live on the air.
Chad Kunda Jim work on the off air stuff, including research,
building the parodies. But Ramona is the one across the
glass were lived and it is his prerogative what we

(15:21):
come back from the breaks with, which is what's known
as a bump. The bump music and bump music's are
more important to our show than probably most only because
music is very important to us, and that's part of
what we do. We enjoy sharing music with you, creating
moods with music. And I just had a very odd moment.

(15:44):
I asked Ramone for presence of the Lord by Blind Faith,
and he kind of furrowed his brow and I said,
you know that song? He said no, So he went
to find it and he said they only have like
ten songs. And I said, but surely you've heard that song.

(16:08):
He had never heard that song. I love that song.
I mean, it shouldn't be a shot when you've got
Steve Winwood, Eric Clapton, Ginger Baker, and I guess I
should add Rick Gretch to that group. I mean, he
wasn't in traffic. So it's such an interesting time because Clapton.
Ginger Baker Wynn would gretch, this is just after Cream

(16:30):
breaks up and they only did one album. I think
they only went on one one. I think they did
one like a whole summer tour. That was it, and
that was that was their body of work. But I
think I think they're fantastic. I love that song. I've
always loved that song. I'm just happy because it's the

(16:53):
kind of thing that Ramon would know, and it somehow
slipped through the cracks and now now you know, and
I know he's gonna listen to it one hundred times.
Makes me happy. Democrat Senator Tammy Duckworth from Illinois was
on CNN with Dana Bash and she wants to criticize

(17:17):
the Trump defense of our country by stopping the Narco boats,
and so she wants to whatever Trump's for, She's against.
If Trump's for Christmas, she hates it. And that's what
he does. He puts them in this. He comes out
strong for things, and then they have to be against it,
even though the American people is for it or for it.

(17:39):
So Dana Bash, I mean, it's almost it's almost an
ounce of journalism here. She simply asks, have you seen
the video, and then she follows it up with she
says yes, she says, you have seen the Classify video

(18:00):
because she knows she hasn't, and Tammy Dutworth is in
an awkward situation. Does she lie as they always do,
or does she tell the truth and undercut her whole
point that she can't actually pass judgment on this issue
because she doesn't know what happened.

Speaker 11 (18:22):
Senator, have you seen the video?

Speaker 12 (18:24):
I have seen the video and it is deeply disturbing.
I am mostly concerned with the fact that we are
putting our American servicemen and women in jeopardy here. We're
putting them in jeopardy in case they ever get shut down.
We're putting them in legal jeopardy. They were up in
international criminal courts, and so what we're doing here is
taking those professionals or utmost professionals and putting them into

(18:48):
harm's way. And that's what bothers me the most about
what Pete Heck said is doing. He is the least
qualified security defense in our nation's history, and he's very
cavalier about doing things. The fact of the matter is,
only Congress can decide that we can go to war
and there was no such declaration made.

Speaker 11 (19:03):
I just want to make sure that I get this accurate.
You have seen the classified video of this particular strike,
the first strike and then the double tap as it's known.

Speaker 12 (19:16):
No, I've just seen what's been available in the media.
I've read the food report, but I've not seen the
actual video.

Speaker 2 (19:24):
Ohn. So you disapprove of something that you don't actually
know what happened with, Well, that's okay. Most Americans were
lecturing their neighbors about how cops are evil because they
murdered George Floyd, and they never actually watched the video

(19:48):
because if they had, they would have known. Did George
Floyd was saying I can't breathe long before he was
on the ground when he was in the backseat of
the vehicle because he had ingested fentanyl and we all
know it. Senator Tom Cotton, Democrat from Arizona, from Arkansas,

(20:09):
did I just say Arizona was on meat depressed? With
Kristin meet the depressed as was depressed? What Rush called it?
Or maybe Mark Levin came up with the one with
Kristin Welker that even that nasty? What did the Trump
call that nasty one? And it raises a very interesting question.

(20:31):
Listen carefully.

Speaker 6 (20:33):
States doesn't shoot people at the border who are bringing
drugs into the country.

Speaker 2 (20:37):
Why should it be different at sea? Are you saying
we should start shooting people at the border.

Speaker 1 (20:41):
We're going No, I'm not Kristin, but we are going
to the source where we have large scale votes that
are trafficking hundreds, if not thousands of pounds of drugs
that could kill thousands of Americans hundreds of our Kansas
a year. It is a highly effective and efficient off
way to stop these drugs from reaching our source.

Speaker 2 (21:02):
Okay, let's ask questions. You're saying you support the president
shooting these narco boats because they're bringing large amounts of
drugs in. What if we see someone bringing large amounts
of drugs across the border. If you're comfortable with the

(21:29):
use of fatal force, why mortal force? Why wouldn't you
be comfortable at the border. And besides, we've told you
don't come in. Here's a big sign in every language.
Here are officers standing there to prevent you from coming in.

(21:54):
I'm asking you a question, how long would it take
that nobody would try to come in if, in fact
we defended our castle we treated America as the prized paradise,
our home that it is, and we actually started using

(22:18):
lethal force for people who came in. How long do
you think that would take? I think that might affect people. Well,
but Michael, they come from poor countries. I understand. That's
the very argument people use when they break into stores
and steal their stuff. We don't buy that either. You've

(22:39):
got Michael Berry's show. This is a longer clip than
I would normally play, but well, I'm not gonna be
defensive about it. I found it to be interesting and
this was as short as we could get it. It's
five minutes, and it's on the subject of now, why

(23:01):
are we talking about slavery? Well, I think slavery is
a worthwhile discussion, not as much as we talk about
it in America, but slavery is used as a cudgel
by people who want power over you. They want to
control you, and they want to make money using our government.
And they also knew no, there's a lot of guilt

(23:22):
in this country over slavery, a lot of guilt, and
so if they can keep bringing it up and make
you a really bad person, then they might get something
out of it. And then you've got politicians who will

(23:43):
promise them that they'll take your money in the name
of slavery. They'll take your money and give it to
people who, in almost every case were not actually the
descendants of slavery. But what does it matter. It's a
free give away, and what they're giving away is decency

(24:05):
and honor and truth and dignity, because nobody's left with
any dignity. You ever actually watched Black Friday the day
after Thanksgiving to watch people crash through the doors at
Walmart and act like a complete fool for what a
cheap item? Really? What price your dignity? Good grief? Anyway,

(24:33):
I hope this is John Stossel, who I think does
a real good job, comes at things from kind of
a libertarian perspective, but he's also a guy who I
feel like. I feel like he's a guy who is
a seeker of truth and that he follows it wherever
it may go, and I like that about him. This

(24:54):
is a discussion Stossel had with author Wilfred Riley, and
I've listened to it a few times now, and I
decided it was something that I was going to share
with you because some folks don't know your history, so
you get scammed into being told that you should be
ashamed of yourself when you don't need to. The original

(25:17):
sin of slavery, the original sin of slavery.

Speaker 4 (25:20):
Today Americans are taught when it comes to slavery, America.

Speaker 2 (25:24):
Was the worst.

Speaker 9 (25:25):
The Atlantic slatory from Africa to the Americas was different
from any other type of slavery.

Speaker 6 (25:29):
The United States didn't inherit slavery from anybody.

Speaker 4 (25:32):
We created it. American slavery was worse because.

Speaker 2 (25:36):
The slaves were reduced to property, to the channel of property.
No other system of slavery did that, except of American slavery.
That's complete nonsense.

Speaker 4 (25:45):
Wilfred Riley is a political science professor and author of Lies.

Speaker 2 (25:49):
My liberal teacher told.

Speaker 7 (25:51):
Me generational slavery like if you're the son of a
slave or a slave, that was extraordinarily common. Slavery around
the world was slavery folks like this Unfinished nation.

Speaker 2 (26:03):
Slaves in Africa were kept unfree only for a fixed term.
No is the short answer.

Speaker 7 (26:08):
Most of the slaves taken by these sort of players
would be either kept as slaves for their entire life,
or more likely sold to the whites and the Arabs
in two years.

Speaker 4 (26:18):
Today, partly thanks to the New York Times sixteen nineteen project,
students are taught that America's slavery was unlike anything that
existed before.

Speaker 7 (26:28):
We're the worst society ever. We've done things that no
one else has ever done. And sometimes there's nothing wrong
with acknowledging your historical mistakes.

Speaker 2 (26:38):
I mean, I'm Black, Irish, a bit.

Speaker 7 (26:41):
Native American, at least per the family lore. I mean,
those are three people that have experienced a great deal historically.

Speaker 2 (26:46):
Nothing wrong with acknowledging that. But it's extremely.

Speaker 7 (26:49):
Odd to focus only on the negatives of your society
and to exaggerate those.

Speaker 4 (26:54):
Americans are taught that slavers caught people in Africa and
ship them here, but few were taught that most slaves
were not shipped to the United States.

Speaker 7 (27:03):
Between ten point seven million and twelve million slaves from
Africa went to the New World.

Speaker 2 (27:09):
We got a little under four hundred thousand.

Speaker 4 (27:11):
Under four hundred thousand out of ten million.

Speaker 7 (27:15):
The extreme focus on slavery in the United States. Why
did that happen? One reason is that a lot of
black people survived here. Slavery was harsh, but it is
a lot less harsh than clearing the Brazilian jungle.

Speaker 4 (27:26):
All right, but American blacks are at a disadvantage. They
have less capital, financial and educational capital.

Speaker 2 (27:35):
What's the harm and pointing out how abusive white people were.

Speaker 7 (27:41):
The harm is that pointing out how abusive white people
were is not going to get Black Americans anymore capital.
Most of the problems of the modern black community don't
have anything to do with.

Speaker 2 (27:51):
Historical ethnic conflict. One hundred and sixty years ago, a.

Speaker 4 (27:53):
Great Society asked not how much, but how good? Riley says.
Most of the problem began when wilfare began.

Speaker 7 (28:02):
Crime in the black community every time I've tried to
break this out increased about eight hundred percent between say,
nineteen sixty three and nineteen ninety three. Racism didn't increase
between nineteen sixty and.

Speaker 2 (28:11):
The modern era.

Speaker 7 (28:12):
You're looking at the impacts of the Great Society, the
welfare programs.

Speaker 4 (28:16):
Riley argus, it's better to teach the truth than Almost
every society had slavery. The as Secs, the Persians, Egyptians, Greeks, Romans, Vikings,
and most of all the Arab world.

Speaker 7 (28:31):
The Arabs were probably histories premier slave traders.

Speaker 4 (28:34):
Sometimes they captured poor whites from Slavic countries.

Speaker 7 (28:38):
The Muslims, many of whom were dark skinned or even black,
took so many blond slaves out of this region that
they gave the world slav slave to the global slave population.

Speaker 2 (28:47):
Many slaves were forced into harems.

Speaker 7 (28:50):
Sexual slavery was a very much a part of slavery,
like if your group was defeated in war, the men
would probably just be killed or they'd be sold as
farm hands. The women would often be sold as hareem
girls or prostitutes.

Speaker 4 (29:02):
More than a million Europeans were enslaved, but Muslim slave
traders took more people from Africa.

Speaker 7 (29:08):
The Arabs targeting Africa took out about seventeen million people.

Speaker 4 (29:12):
The British and then the Americans were the rare people
who moved to abolish slavery.

Speaker 7 (29:18):
So yeah, the British Navy, in a story almost no
one now knows, sank something like sixteen hundred slave ships.
It freed one hundred fifty thousand people that were enslaved
at the time.

Speaker 4 (29:31):
Because the Brits objected for moral reasons, they had enough
of it. Saudi Arabia only abolished the slave trade relatively recently.

Speaker 2 (29:40):
Well, it's another inconvenient fact, right.

Speaker 4 (29:42):
The Global Slavery Index estimates that, even now all those
slavery is officially illegal, there are more than seven hundred
thousand slaves in Saudi Arabia, where.

Speaker 2 (29:52):
There were no Westerners. You'd have a lot of slavery
for a long time.

Speaker 4 (29:56):
And you knew American slavery was horrible, but it was
Is it unique? Our culture would be healthier if we
learned about that. And schools dwelling on America's evils hasn't
helped Americans get over them. Gallup poles show that after
schools started focusing on oppression, race relations got worse.

Speaker 7 (30:17):
The idea of generational slavery, the idea of slave trading,
none of that was unique to America.

Speaker 2 (30:23):
And another thing.

Speaker 7 (30:24):
You don't need radicalism to critique the worst excesses of
an existing system.

Speaker 2 (30:30):
All you need is incrementalism and honesty.
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