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December 16, 2025 31 mins

Tex-Mex quirks, mortuary madness, NFL draft dreams, and holiday hilarity—Michael Berry brings you the stories that make life interesting.

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Speaker 1 (00:03):
It's that time time time, time, luck and load.

Speaker 2 (00:11):
The Michael vari Show is on the air, and now
a totally random weekend review from the past. Take a
guess when this was. I go into Text Mex restaurant
and it blows my mind wrong and they don't have
chips and sauce and you have to ask for it,
and I'm like, by God, the Russians have won. A

(00:32):
good Text Mex experience is to walk in and there's
some guy who doesn't wait table. He's about four or eleven.
You sit down and he slides that basket of piping
hot tortilla chips in front of him.

Speaker 3 (00:46):
Oh yang Man was stabbed at a mortuary in southwest Houston.

Speaker 2 (00:51):
He said.

Speaker 1 (00:51):
Beliefs say that he went to look for his mother's body,
only to find several others lying in the.

Speaker 2 (00:57):
Open discover their deceased love. One was left deep closing
in a room with no ac She described conditions as deplorable.
They have nets, they have boxes. A confrontation broke out
with a mortuary worker. Tamara's brother was stabbed and rushed
to the hospital. Did he go in the back and
get the night? Oh? Yeah, you wanna fight me? I'm
gonna stab you and guess what when you die, your

(01:18):
famili's punishment is, we're going to do the funeral. No,
not that too.

Speaker 1 (01:22):
Kale King wipes away its year as she rides along
with Katie Kerry and four other fellow astronauts to the
launch pad for launch.

Speaker 3 (01:31):
Yeah, baby, go for launch.

Speaker 2 (01:33):
My favors.

Speaker 3 (01:34):
When I hear people say, oh, it's just a rich
people saying, you're not looking at the bigger picture of
what is happening here.

Speaker 2 (01:40):
The concept of being an astronaut. These guys were the
best of the best. They were mental giants, they were
physical giants. And now we've got this cosplay of Gail King.
Anything Yale King does is therefore necessarily not impressive. We're
the prize patrol of the publishers playing now, and we
could to prize you now. Publisher's clearing house, it's filing

(02:03):
for Chapter eleven bankruptcy protection. You know they were still
around that whole setup. Man, I'm slogging. My life's miserable,
but maybe I'll wait the publisher's in clearinger. Happy Easter.

(02:25):
Let me walk through paradise with you. Take my head
and read April eighteenth, what's the date? Of erring, which
means that would have been the week preceding April eighteenth.
A desperate farmer ran up to me and he said,

(02:47):
I've got sixty eight sheep, Can you round them up
for me? I said, sure, seventy. Well, I used to
be skeptic of chiropractors. Now I stand corrected. What do

(03:08):
you call karate for people with one arm? I'm not
gonna tell you, because that to be audi. The pervasive
culture of corruption at the City of Houston kPr C
TV's Amy Davis. You know, I think the best investigative
unit in town today is Channel two, Mario Diaz and

(03:31):
Amy in terms of the material we're getting. I don't
know who's at eleven these days. The Jennifer Renn is
not an eleven issue she used to be at two,
or her finance wherever she is, is worthy of investigation. No,

(03:52):
the Channel eleven used to have Jeremy Ragalski. I don't
watch local news anymore. So what I know of the
local news is what Chad poll for us to use
the next day. They used to have Jeremy Rogowski, and
they used to have what's our what's our buddy's name
that found the Elbert wood deal, skinny fella. He's also
the one that sent us the uh huh no no,

(04:13):
Ted Olbert was Channel thirteen audios, mofo. Uh, what's our
buddy's name, Skinny skinny fella? He went to the DA's office.
But I'm sure he's probably not there anymore because he
was there under Kim Ogg. What happened to him? What
was his name? Skinny little fella, kind of bald headed,
great guy, journalist, journalist? What was his darn name? I'm

(04:38):
gonna tell you in just a second. It's very compelling radio.
While I sit and try to think of a person's name.
It's on the top of my It's on the tip
of my tongue. Damn it. Channel third. Who's doing investigative
work at thirteen these days? Do you know it's not

(04:59):
Wayne dolta Fino? Although I'll tell you something. I can
go over to do Ta Fino's site and just watch
about five in a row, get my fix. He's he does.
He gets the storytelling angle of it all. He gets
he gets the story telling. How much you figure he
makes doing that? I bet he makes a pretty good coin.
What do you think? I don't know he's got a

(05:19):
I know he's got a big crew. See, poor people
judge other people's income by how many employees you got
and whether you got a nice office. That's a dumb
way to that's a dumb way to judge. But that's
how we judge. He does some good videos, though. You
do it, man, I'll tee what. When I was on
city council, it's a horseshoe shape deal. And when dontcha

(05:44):
Fino would come walking in, he'd have this really really
mischievous smile on his face because he was about to
burn somebody. And I knew I missed your self righteous.
That went out of my way not to do anything wrong.
So I just sit there and watch. I knew I
wasn't in trouble. But there were people that would go
to squirming and and there's a there's a door to

(06:05):
the back, and there's like a cloakroom in the back,
and that's where you go out there and talk about
all the crazies and but that's where the restroom was.
So I'd sit out there and watch, and I'd try
to figure out who he was gonna nail this week.
And uh, sometimes you go in the back and then
be debating. Well, I think he's you know, he called
his staff, called my staff, and they wanted to know this,
this or this, And it was always fascinating to watch because,

(06:29):
uh it was it was waiting for the other shoe
to drop, because Dolfino had shown up at city council
and somebody was going to be in trouble. Jeff McShann, Yes,
how'd you find it? Somebody called, probably Jeff mcschan. I
want to make sure he got his due. He was
whose roommate? Is that true? Where'd they go to college?

(06:52):
His roommate for four years in college? Roommate? Roommate is
a good dude. I wonder where he ask his roommate
where he is now? I'm wondering what he's doing now. No,
I'm saying that because I know he went to the
DA's office. He left Channel leven went to the day's office.
I don't know what happened when Kim oug left. I

(07:14):
think he was still there when she left. The one
I always liked was Phil Archer. Phil Archer was one
funny dude. Because Phil Archer, I think Phil Archer watched
a bunch of movies about being a journalist and he
just cosplayed being a journalist. Phil Archer would walk in
and there was a little there was a little media
desk right next to where I sat. Phil Arch would

(07:34):
walk in, he'd be sitting there and we'd be in
the middle of the meeting. His phone would go off
and he'd I think he was half hard a hearing too,
because he was older by this time. He'd put it up. Yeah,
but I'm not saying, counsel. No, I've not done anything.
And we can all hear him, right, everybody hearing. Clear's day.
It's deadly quiet, and we just stopped talking. No circle jark,
you know, going around. You know, everybody's congratulating each other

(07:56):
and Phil, we're right here. He was so cranky, just
awesomely cranky, and never in a good movie. He'd have
his cup of coffee. He looked like you just smoked
a cigarette out front of him, know if he smoke,
But that was what I imagined an old grizzled journalist should
be like. Now they're just sitting here congratulating each other. Yeah,

(08:19):
I see if he wrap something up and get back.
But about Thornton, is uh, his father, well, his wife
actually ex wife, that hot blonde says you know it's
not right. Your dad's at this old hotel that's a
old folks home. He doesn't have many sunsets left. He

(08:42):
just sits out and stairs at So we're going to
bring him here live with us. So they go get
him and he's sitting out back and Bill about Thornton
is leaving for the day to go into the drama
that his daily life, and he says, you know you
sit out here. So what I want to do? He said, well,
you just watch a TV show like The View, And

(09:05):
so his dad, played by Sam Elliott, says, I don't
know what the View is? What's that? And Tommy, which
is Billy Bob Thornton's character, says, he explains it thusly,
quote a bunch of pissed off millionaires bitching about how
they hate millionaires and Trump and men and you and

(09:26):
me and everybody else. They got to be up there
ass about it's pretty funny. Is that great writing or what?
Here's this guy that works like a dog all day
every day. So he's cynical about everything. He's got to
drive for words and drive the Midland and drive Odessa.
Stuff's blowing up, people getting killed, drama, his kid's trying

(09:47):
to marry this one. It's all, you know. His wife's
trying to host these fancy dinners and he just wants
to come home. So he goes to the patch it
has a beer, just have a moment of peace and quiet.
The company's bankrupt. Yeah, I watched the view, dad. What's
the view? A bunch of pissed off millionaires bitching about

(10:08):
how much they hate million I'm sorry, A bunch of
pissed off millionaires bitching about how much they hate millionaires
and Trump and men and you and me and everybody else.
They got to be up there ass about. It's pretty funny.
That's classy, right there. Have you seen women? It's good?
You see any of it at all? Oh my goodness,
it's fantastic. I love it. I'll have to hear about

(10:30):
it from some repressed lady that'll say, oh my god,
I can't well. Ay, those women are so salati. They're fine.
I don't care what you say. They're nice to look
at fellas like to look at pretty women. I don't care.
Apparently that's sinful or awful or whatever else. They're sexy
as all get out. And any guy who doesn't admit
that uh is lying. Michael taff has declared for the

(10:53):
NFL draft. Well that ain't worth a damn but you
know what, good for you, buddy, you earned it. I
hope you get a big payday, a big what plush
protections number sixteen? Yeah? I think his dad played I
know his dad played college ball. I think his dad
played pro ball as well. What's that? Yeah? You declare?

(11:13):
Ramon has declared, well, what's your height? Weight? What you're
looking at? Six foot? Well you ain't six foot, diego Povia?
You maybe five point ten? What's your weight right now?
Two forty? You are two twenty? Off season? You're not
on your fighting weight? Okay? All right? The pound a
pound here that down here is not bad? Eight ain't
three eighty? How about that? Yeah? Slim down? All right?

(11:35):
Off season? Yeah, if it's third and a mile, we
won't give it to him. Okay, and then, uh, what
are your what are your vitals? What's your forty time?
Would you guess? Jump pretty high? You a good article? Okay?
What about your forty time? What would you say for that? Eventually? Okay? Yeah,
I like that, that's good. What is forty time? Eventually? Okay?
All right I like that. How about your bench? What

(11:57):
do you wait? Oh, wouldn't one? Okay? All right? And
how about your dead lift? What do you got on now? Yeah? Yeah,
acuse secrets? Okay, all right? Were you O line or
D line for the sting of rease? You did both?
You were too too okay, but yeah, okay. How many
wins did y'all have your senior year? You don't remember?

(12:19):
Was it any? And it was? Okay? Two years later?
You want state? So once they got rid of you,
once they got rid of the dead weight they is
that true? Your senior year you dumped football, the one
year you could have had some glory, and you choose band.
What was your instrm? You were on the drum, weren't you?
They always put the big boy on the drum. Hey,
you're fat? You do the drum? Wait a second? What

(12:42):
you could carry it? Yeah? Okay, you already carried enough weight.
Like here, here's another one. You had the big one
to boom boom boom. Oh you're on the xylophone, ain't it.
I know I'm not making fun of you. I think
that's cool. That. Good on you, Good on you. What
do you call that? Is that the snare, the big,
the big, the based. Okay, that always felt like it
would be fun, right at first, the ba boom boom

(13:04):
and you're coming in everybody. That's the one thing everybody
in the whole stadium can hear. Ba boom boom boom.
But it seems like after all that'd get real old.
And then when the band is at rest, there's always
that guy over and he's holding it up. Yeah. When
I was in high school, we had something went through
the band. I'd never seen this before. They decided they
were going to start passing out, and so the principal

(13:26):
had a like a meeting after the third or fourth
game because we had members of the band that would
pass out and it was becoming a huge distraction. And
is that yeah, I guess because they locked their knees
or it became a cool thing to do or something.
Give them some water or something. How about y'all, y'all
not go out there if you're going to do that. Ramon,
are you a show band guy or you a military

(13:46):
band guy? Show band me too? Oh, Ocean of Soul
is something else. You're not just saying that because they're black.
My goodness alive. That is that's something to behold. The
halftime show of the T s U Band. Forget the
football team, that is a show. They stopped fighting in
the stands during halftime to watch it. That's how good

(14:07):
they are. That's true. If there's a fight or whatever,
they're like, hold on, hope own. The band's about to
go on, and that band will show out. I always
like my brother was in band, so we would always
go to the band competitions, and I actually enjoyed it
even though it was always hot. That's what I mostly
remember about being a kid is everything was hot all time.

(14:27):
And Orangefield had a show band and my brother always
had a solo so we were very proud of him.
And they did. You'll never walk Alone one time and
there he is a he's a trumpet teer and he's
wrapping it off. But the military bands the first time
you see him like a really good one. Even today,

(14:49):
if I see a college universe here watch A and M.
That's something else, man, that's who that is top tier
right there, Michael Barry's shows. I'm trying to figure out
why Taff announced for the draft. If he is a

(15:12):
red shirt senior and Chad posited, maybe he has an
extra year of eligibility because of the COVID season, because
there are guys who qualified for that. I don't know,
it's just a guess somebody out there knows. No, don't
call Matt Thomas, he won't know. That's not his area
of expertise. But pretty impressive run for the kid from

(15:39):
walk on from was it Westlake to All American, I'd
say that's a pretty big deal. I'd say that that's
a pretty good run. Did you know his dad? His
dad used to be a law partner of Tony Busby. Yeah. Story,

(16:01):
and he went to Austin Westlake and walked on to
University of Texas. No small deal and obviously now an
NFL prospect, smart player too. But Chad's theory and maybe

(16:21):
something to this, well, I don't know why they would
announce that he's declaring for the draft if he is
a senior with no eligibility left anyway, unless he has
an extra year of eligibility, and so this is his
way of telling the team, go recruit somebody for my position.
But Ramon pointed out at the end of the last game,

(16:42):
he was sitting down at the end of the end
zone and they were sitting there. I can't remember who
he's with, and they were taking it in. The announcer said,
this is the last time he'll be in this stadium.
He's just taking it all in. And that was the
Aggie game and they went out with the win over
the Aggies, which for him, obviously you'd rather make the playoffs,

(17:03):
but that would be a feather in his cap. He
would be happy about that. Speaking of great University of
Texas Longhorns B Jean Robinson eighth pick after the twenty
two season Doak Walker Award Absolute stud Before I play
this clip, were too keen to cancel people for saying

(17:29):
things that happened to be true. So let me ask
you this. In your neighborhood, wherever you grew up, whenever
you grew up years in the past, did you have
a game where you would take a football, although it
didn't actually have to be a football, could have been
any kind of ball. The football was where it originated,
and you would hand the ball or you would have

(17:51):
the balls. Whoever grabbed the ball would run and it
didn't require a lot of organization because whoever had the ball,
everyone else would tackle him. And the most common name
for that game, and then once he was tackled, he
threw the ball up whoever got it. Then they began

(18:12):
to run and it would just carry on until the
last person was so exhausted they couldn't stand up. Right.
What did you call that game? I can tell you
across the country what I suspect the number one name
for that game was well Vijon was On was On

(18:33):
after he had a monster game. He was asked after
the game Thursday Night Football. He described it as like
that game. Here's the moment you had when he threw
it to smear the queer. Okay, if that is offensive

(19:05):
to someone, First of all, I don't think the word
queer is actually offensive to anyone. I think the people.
The problem is, there are people who try to make
a name for themselves by creating a tense moment, and
the Internet makes this much worse. They just run around
trying to cancel people, trying to create this drama. Hey,

(19:28):
so and so said this over here because the doings
of the real world are not interesting enough. They want
to be the moment. They want to be the one
who caught someone saying something bad. Was Bjon Robinson in
some way insulting things insulting homosexuals. No, he wasn't. By

(19:52):
the way, he's black, so stop being racist. That is
a term that was widely used and I don't need
I don't even think anybody meant it to be an
insulting term. We could ask gay Dave, but gay Dave's
not offended by anything ever, but he could pass muster
on it. So anyway, that's what kids in the seventies

(20:15):
and eighties called the term. I saw somebody post on
a sports feed like Tiger Droppings or one of those,
and said, what did y'all call this? And there was
a video of it, and smear the queer was the
number one reference to it, and number two was kill
the man or something else, and that was also used

(20:36):
pretty pretty commonly. Okay, all right, so maybe people won't
call it that in the future. Although anyway, so b
Jon Robinson issues an apology as if he's done something
horrible for using the term as it was used back then. Whatever, Well, anyway,

(20:59):
that's all we're going to talk about. That. That's just
absolutely stupid, speaking of far left nut jobs that just
want to be upset over everybody. Let's check in with
our boy, Timmy wats On this week's podcast, Timmy.

Speaker 3 (21:12):
Wolf, Timmy Walston, It's the Timmy Walt PODCASHO, Hello America,
it's your boy, Timmy Walls.

Speaker 2 (21:22):
And boy am I in a tiffy? So listen.

Speaker 1 (21:26):
It's the holiday season, and of course I'm in my element,
snacking on some walnuts, drinking my wastle, watching the Hallmark Channel,
and then I flip over to my favorite sport like
the old ball coach tends to do, and that's football.

Speaker 2 (21:40):
But did you see this? Yeah, I'm looking at you,
Bjeon Robinson.

Speaker 1 (21:44):
Santa Claus is coming to town, and he's got a
big o' lump of coal and your giant stocking.

Speaker 2 (21:49):
Mister. Yeah, did he have a big game? Check? Was
he player of the game? Check? And did he say
something that rubbed me the wrong way? Well? Check, check check.

Speaker 1 (21:58):
Listen, Bjeon, a big, bad, beautiful football player. But what
you said makes as much sense as a penny at
the grocery store. Everybody knows. The NFL doesn't smear it queer,
they embrace it. Don't believe me. Roll the tape dicks
get so much needed blow.

Speaker 2 (22:16):
Or cushion for the pushing they say. They always say
that about you. Mark. He is a thick wide receiver
who is powerful from the waist down. Everybody loves sticking
around the league. Jeff's Saturday loved the double tap. He
loved me constantly spiking him right. Oh, that's a big load.
Tyron Williams, he beats cocks deepest penetration of the night.

(22:39):
Needed too thrusts to get it in.

Speaker 1 (22:41):
That's how I do it, too, like a chain around
the back of my neck.

Speaker 2 (22:44):
That's exactly how I do it.

Speaker 1 (22:46):
Like Shane, you are bo seebe Jean told you Ruth
is in the banana pudding.

Speaker 2 (22:52):
Whoop, gotta run love. Actually, he's about to come on.
That's my fave.

Speaker 1 (22:56):
Merry Christmas, everybody, I feel it.

Speaker 2 (22:59):
I'm bak the.

Speaker 1 (23:03):
Quarterus W twenty five package and you get it all
fiberglass hood with air grabbing scoop.

Speaker 2 (23:10):
Mit the Michael Berry fucking hood. Bens Shunsmobile escaped from
the ordinary going over the moons draft stock. Bobby Crumpley says,
does Ramon have a high motor? The NFL seems to
like that. We should call at Zerlin and have him
review tape of you. That'd be as sec man. You know,

(23:36):
I've never I told him one time. I said, Lince,
I don't get you. You got the second best impersonation
in town. You got the second best character on Houston
radio behind Shirley Cue Lickor, and you don't do it.
I will never understand. Why hide your light under a bushel?
That was good? What was it Coxslaughter? What was first?

(24:00):
The guy's first name, Tom doctor Tom Man. That was
a character right there. Joe Flanagan says, Jay Ray is
indeed the traffic beauty trollope. Traffic trollope at Channel eleven.
Trollope's a good thing. I guess I watch her and
that smoking hot blonde Cheetah Craft every morning before I

(24:21):
get out of bed. Somebody else said she's at Channel
eleven as well, so I guess she is in fact
at Channel eleven. Will have to take their word for that.
The pervasive culture of corruption at the City of Houston.
kPr C TV's Amy Davis digs into the credit card
statements of city council members and finds that Edward Pollard

(24:43):
and Tiffany Thomas think that they're somehow rock stars on
the taxpayer's dollars. kPr C TV with the story free.

Speaker 4 (24:53):
Turkeys for families in a league a much needed gift
at the end of a rough year.

Speaker 2 (24:59):
We are a little bit behind on rent. We had
the only pay half because we still had some purchase leave.

Speaker 5 (25:05):
And no family should have to worry about a holiday
meal as certainly not.

Speaker 2 (25:08):
On the West Side.

Speaker 4 (25:09):
Council Member Tiffany Thomas spread the word about this Turkey
drive she helped organize for District F, but she wasn't
as eager to talk with two investigates about charges she
racked up on her city issued credit card forty five,
nine hundred and eighty one dollars in twenty twenty four,
more than any other council member, and she's leading the
pack in twenty five as well.

Speaker 2 (25:29):
So what's she buying?

Speaker 4 (25:31):
Twenty five percent of her charges paid for travel ten
flights in twenty twenty four and six between January and
July of this year DC Tampa, Cleveland, New Orleans, Mexico City,
and we noticed this charge for a flight to the
Bahamas and a stay at the Atlantis Bahamas Resort in July.

(25:51):
Thomas told me she canceled the trip because Hurricane Barrel
hit days earlier. She didn't want to leave Houston, while
most of her district was still in the dark. But
what city business did Thomas have in the Bahamas? By phone,
she told me she was asked to speak at a conference,
but she couldn't remember who was hosting it. This helped
jogger memory. Prairieview A and M held its forty sixth

(26:13):
annual alumni convention at the Atlantis Bahamas Resort. Thomas teaches
at Prairieview, and when she wasn't flying, she was smiling.
City purchase card statements show Councilmember Thomas paid dots in
photography thirty eight times from twenty three through twenty five.
This year, she paid another photographer sixteen hundred dollars a
total of nearly ten grand for pictures and videos. When

(26:35):
we asked her about the charges, she emailed that she
invests in photography services to ensure residents can see their tax.

Speaker 2 (26:42):
Dollars at work.

Speaker 4 (26:44):
Separately, her communications manager emailed Councilmember Thomas did not travel
to the Bahamas due to a natural disaster. Although the
flight was booked, it was later reimbursed. At this point,
we will no longer entertain additional scrutiny of line item
expenses based on the unfound perception that council member Thomas
lacks integrity.

Speaker 5 (27:03):
This is the taxpayer's money and they have the right
to know how it's spent and why it's being spent.

Speaker 4 (27:07):
Peter Cohling teaches public budgeting at the University of Houston
Hobby School of Public Affairs.

Speaker 5 (27:12):
Transparency, transparency, transparency. If you're going to give people flexibility
in what they're spending, I think the other side of
that coin is transparency.

Speaker 4 (27:22):
One thing that's very clear in these credit card statements
is the dramatic difference and how little some city council
members spend compared to their counterparts.

Speaker 2 (27:30):
But we just try to be really good stewards of
our tax dollars.

Speaker 4 (27:33):
For district, A council member Amy Peck charged just two thousand,
six hundred and ninety nine dollars for all of twenty
twenty four. We just try to do as much as
we can with less. We ask other departments to do
the same, so it's important that we do that as well.
Pax says she doesn't use tax dollars to travel, and
she needs to fly somewhere to represent her district. She

(27:54):
uses campaign funds instead. Other council members who didn't charge
any flights in twenty four council member Abbie Kaman, Sally Alcorn,
and Julian Ramirez. The most frequent flyer on City Council
is District Jay's Edward Pollard. Half of the thirty two
thousand dollars he charged last year paid for travel twelve
flights to d C, New York, Tampa, and a trip

(28:17):
to Guatemala for himself and his chief of staff.

Speaker 5 (28:20):
Sometimes you even go overseas to attract business and investment
and all of that, I think as a reasonable expense,
you know, make sure you're doing it for the right reasons,
not just a junket exactly.

Speaker 4 (28:31):
Pollard wouldn't talk with me for this story. His chief
of staff told me the trip to Guatemala was approved
in twenty three under Mayor Sylvester Turner for travel. In
twenty four, Pollard posted pictures of the trip on social media,
writing that he was developing relationships with the leadership at Guatemala.

Speaker 2 (28:48):
Constituents are torn.

Speaker 4 (28:50):
These flights are not benefiting our community at all.

Speaker 2 (28:52):
Is it ILLEGALP it's not illegal, then I don't see
an issue as long as it's not you know, on
her personal time to go on vacations or displays or
something like that. I wouldn't see anything wrong with it. Oh,
and you get the government you deserve. Why pay for
any travel using city dollars. There's nobody that believes that

(29:15):
there is a city councilman flying to Guatemala negotiating trade
deals to come to Houston. Really, there's a Guatemalan company
out there, and they're going, well, let's see. Hm. You know,
we're a powerhouse company, got the world at our feet.

(29:38):
Not sure where we're going to invest our billions. We're
thinking because of Chinese automation, might go there in cheap labor.
The Japanese have some really impressive systems, might go there.
There is the German precision instrumentation. We're looking at that.

(30:04):
But there's also the city of Houston, because we're talking
to a city councilman there and he's telling us that
what he can do, you know, as a city councilman
and all. He's going to come down here with his
chief of staff and we're going to really devote some
time to hearing what he has to say, because I

(30:26):
suspect he has a really good understanding of what's going on.
By the same token members of Congress should not be
able to trade stock period endo story. There is no
doubt that you have inside information, as inside information is
defined by the Securities in Exchange Commission. When you go

(30:48):
into public life, it's like going to the priesthood. You
don't get to trade stock. If you want to trade stock,
you want to be a stock trader, be a stock trader.
If you want to have public information that the public
does not have access to, then you don't trade stops periods.
Then we don't have to argue over it.
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