October 31, 2024 • 33 mins
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America first includes all Americans, regardless of their race, their gender,
or their sexual orientation.
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Why don't weliveate these United States? We're the ones who
need didn't work.
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That's the rest of the world.
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Help us barchmanchage and let's rebuild the Mary. First, our
high is bridges at fun far who's less?
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Who has been cursed?
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There's things to be down all over the world, but
let's rebuild them married.
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The first our message to Black Americans tonight is this,
we want you what we want for every American. Safe neighborhoods,
good jobs, clean streets, a country where you are judged
based on the content of your character, not the color
of your skin or your political beliefs, and watching.
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The bad who's in charge of it all?
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God bless the army.
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Got this o liberty, get down the wrist of it all.
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Give man and positionion back and away.
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Freedom is stuck in.
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First, let's get out.
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Of rack, get back on the track, and let's rebuild
and married.
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The first.
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Our message to gay Americans tonight is this, You're free
to marry who you want. If you want without the
government standing in your way.
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What'small.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
It doesn't mean that boys get to compete with girls
in girls' sports, or you do genital mutilation and chemical
castration on our children.
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Why don't deliberate these United States? We're the ones who need.
Speaker 4 (02:14):
It the most. You think I'm blowing to smoke boys,
It ain't no goat.
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I make twenty eight fifty years coast codes.
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You get ahead in the United States with your own
hard work, your own commitment, your own dedication, and that
you know what, you are free to speak your mind
at every step of the way.
Speaker 6 (02:35):
That is the American dream. That is what we are
running too.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
And that is what we get when we send Donald
Trump back to the White House.
Speaker 6 (02:47):
Little Merle Haggard, little patriotism. It's a good times. It's
a good times. Crockett now went to the Texans game
on Sunday. Texans had some rough years along the way
twenty eleven, twelve, thirteen. Right in there, there were some
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there were some good teams, but this was a startup franchise.
When Bob McNair brought the franchise back to or brought
the initial franchise because I guess technically it's not the
oilers anymore. They were rough years, and for folks that
were that were that were big fans, it was rough.
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It was difficult, you know. We we had some some
folks that stole our hearts with the Astros, but we
couldn't win a championship and you got seven straight years
of amazing teams. It's just a better feeling when you're winning.
It's a good feeling in America. The right people are
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unhappy and the right people are delighted, and that's just
it's a state of army. It's a state of balance
and goodness. It's felt like we were losing for so
long that finally we get to it feels like we
get a victory out of this now. I know a
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number of people think that we should not say that
the polls reflect Trump is winning. I understand that is
an opinion of certain people. And let me explain to
you what's going on here. There is a psychology that
you might not buy into, you might not suffer from,
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and you certainly don't understand people like to support a winner.
This transcends politics. This is throughout history, the appearance of
success engenders success. This is why con men and scam
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artists always wear big, bulky expensive watches and drive a
Lamborghini or a Rolls Royce and wear three thousand dollars
suits when they can't pay their bills, because if other
people think they're successful, then they'll give them their money.
When people feel like there is success, they want to
be part of that success. This isn't hype. There is success.
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The pole numbers really say that. And the reason we're
trumpeting those pole numbers is because our side has stayed home.
And part of what's kept our side staying home, and
this is by design, is the abiding belief that due
to fraud, you can't win, you're powerless. And this is
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a deep psychological mind hump. I'll say it's not the
word I want to use. This is a deep psychological
mind hump where a lot of America can believe that
the powers that be are so strong that we can't
possibly overcome them. The cheat will be so great that
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I don't need to vote anyway. A lot of people
have resigned themselves because the loss of agency, the loss
of self control and self determination is so debilitating, so depressing,
that what people have done to take back control of
their lives is they have aggressively, actively, openly vocally checked out.
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I don't care about this country. I don't care what happens.
I'm not part of it. I'm refusing to vote. You
can't make me care. It's the person that's been burned
in love so much that they simply won't date again.
You're not going to break my heart. That's what we
have a number of people in this country suffering from.
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But you can convince them that if every one of
you would give it your best effort, we can win.
It's possible. We're doing it. We're showing our so folks
are very upset. They don't want you telling that the
poll numbers are strong in every single battleground state. Don't
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do that, or the Democrats will cheap. Democrats are gonna
cheat no matter what. Don't do that, because then our
people won't show up. Nothing will make our people show
up more than believing we're gonna win. Let me give
you an example. You ever noticed how many New England
Patriots jerseys used to see in Houston when the Patriots
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were winning the championships. You ever notice that where were
those Patriots fans? Some of them are like, hey, weren't
you born in Crosby. Hadn't you lived here in your
whole life? Why are you were in a Patriots jersey?
Speaker 4 (07:56):
Wow?
Speaker 7 (07:56):
Right?
Speaker 6 (07:57):
Love Patriots? Really? How far back Tony Easton? What Ron Meyer?
Who was your your Patriot hero? Craig James? Nobody likes
Craig James. I just really like him. No, you liked it.
They win the super Bowl. So when you wear the jersey,
who oh, he must be he's got a winner. People
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like a winner. You saw Steelers jerseys here for a
few years. It's why the Yankees for so long? Had
people loved the Yankees. We're gonna win this thing. I
can't promise you we're gonna win Harris County, but I
can tell you we're in snipping distance. Well, Michael, there
is gonna cheat. Damn it, Shut that up.
Speaker 4 (08:39):
I got it.
Speaker 6 (08:39):
They're gonna cheat. Are you gonna try to win or not?
Because we can win this thing. We're gonna win Texas.
We're gonna win the White House.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
At Joe, can here come the garbage man?
Speaker 8 (09:25):
Yo?
Speaker 4 (09:26):
You're that Joe?
Speaker 1 (09:27):
Can here come the garbage man? Hey? Get out, Joe?
Can you come the garbage man yet? Garbage man?
Speaker 5 (09:38):
And I have to begin by saying two hundred and
fifty million Americans are not garbage. This week, Kamala has
been comparing her political opponents to the most evil mass
murderers in history, and now, speaking on a call for
her campaign last night, Crooked Joe Biden finally.
Speaker 9 (09:59):
Said what he and Kamala really think of our supporters.
He called them garbage. No way, My supporters are far
higher quality than Crooked Joe or Lion Kamala.
Speaker 4 (10:15):
Higher quality, got Joe? Can you come the garbage man?
You you're at you? Can you come the garbage man?
Speaker 1 (10:28):
You're after your cane, your your garbage man.
Speaker 4 (10:35):
Kamala, Joe.
Speaker 5 (10:37):
Call all of us and them, even them, garbage.
Speaker 9 (10:41):
I call you the heart and soul of America. You
are the heart and soul.
Speaker 5 (10:47):
You built our country.
Speaker 9 (10:49):
You built it far more than they built it. I
can tell you that you built it.
Speaker 7 (10:54):
After.
Speaker 4 (10:54):
Can you come the garbage man?
Speaker 1 (11:00):
I too?
Speaker 4 (11:00):
Can here come the garbage man?
Speaker 1 (11:06):
Get out too? Can here come the garbage man?
Speaker 6 (11:44):
Here's how it happened. Trump advisor Jason Miller says, the vest,
the garbage truck, all of it. Trump's idea and thanks
to supporters in Wisconsin. They were able in a short
period of time to turn it around and there was
Trump in the garbage truck. Oh my goodness, Jason Miller
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with the story.
Speaker 4 (12:08):
Please whose idea was the best?
Speaker 6 (12:12):
And the truck? And how'd you get it wrapped so fast?
Come on?
Speaker 2 (12:15):
Tell us.
Speaker 10 (12:15):
Well, can't give all the details, but of course it
was President Trump's ideas, and we have some great supporters
in Wisconsin.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
That's all I can say right now.
Speaker 10 (12:22):
But Laura, I think the panel is really on top
of this because it's not just what President Trump is
saying he's going to fix the economy and secure the border,
but it's who he's saying it to, which is all Americans.
That is such a contrast to Kamala Harris running this
campaign of hate and division. Is we get down to
next Tuesdays, Americans, the few undecideds that are left, or
people say well maybe I'm leaning Trump, but I don't
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know if I know, show up and vote. They see
these images, they see that he's taking it serious. They
also see that they've been personally offended by Kamala Harrison
Joe Biden calling them garbage, that they want to get
out there and vote for President Trump. Also the other thing, Laura,
you look at this schedule the next days. We're gonna
be making a stop in New Mexico tomorrow along with
Las Vegas and Phoenix, then also going to Virginia this weekend.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
There are states that are still in play for.
Speaker 10 (13:10):
President Trump where you don't see Kamala Harris on offense anywhere.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
That is a major distinction.
Speaker 10 (13:15):
Final thing I'll mention, Laura, also got to make sure
they give a lot of credit to Chairman Michael Wattley
at the r and C and Laara Trump, the co
chair what they are doing with the election integrity effort.
They are going to make sure that this election is secure.
They've already filed some one hundred and thirty lawsuits, the
big huge wins that you talked about earlier with regard
to the Supreme Court, with regard to Virginia, also with
keeping the polls open in Bucks County.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
We are not going to not gonna be caught asleep
this time.
Speaker 10 (13:40):
They have over a quarter million volunteers ready to go
to keep our election secure.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
A lot of credit goes to Mike Watley and Lara Trump.
Speaker 10 (13:47):
Where President Trump has the right message, good political team,
and We're going to make sure that every single person
gets the opportunity to vote, but just once.
Speaker 6 (13:58):
So what's amazing here.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
Is that one major misstep.
Speaker 6 (14:11):
Could have cost this election. Still could. But the later
it goes, the harder it is, the further you fall behind.
If you're the Harris campaign, the more dramatic the difference,
the marginal difference between you and Trump, has to be
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in a shorter period of time to make up. When
you're trailing late and the clock is ticking, it becomes
harder and harder. So whatever big surprise you want to dump,
instead of you now needing to win fifty two forty
eight for the remaining voters, you've got to win sixty
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three thirty seven make up the difference. You've also had
a lot of people vote early and granted a lot
of them by every measure of Republicans, and that puts
you in a situation where you've got more Democrats available
to vote. Our people have shown up to vote, They're
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continuing to show up. Got a little rain in Houston today,
but I'm getting reports at polling locations that voting voter
turnout is strong. We're also hearing across the country that
black turnout is down. Blacks are not excited about Kamala.
Reliably Democrat blacks are not excited about Kamala. And we're
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seeing blacks showing up who are saying they're voting for
Trump in numbers that can't be ignored. There is a
transformation occurring. Illegal immigration has managed to penetrate the black
community in this country, the inner city black community, and
they see in the cost in Illinois where the budget
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is now being devoted at the state and in a
city of Chicago to handling the basic needs of illegal aliens,
which has overwhelmed their budget, and that means there's nothing
left for the taxpayers and the people who live there.
It is dramatic, but what we're seeing is win after
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win after win after win after win, and when there
appeared to be a stumble with the with the pile
of garbage Puerto Rico joke, when there appeared to be
a stumble, the recovery was dramatic. Now I can't remember
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if it was this show or the Evening show that
that I told this story on, but you have to
understand where the where the Tony Hinchcliff killed. Tony is
is the name he goes by for his for his podcast.
You have to understand that the basis of that joke.
The joke was there's a floating pile of garbage. And
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then he said, well, that's actually Puerto Rico. He didn't
say that's Puerto Ricans, that is the country. Well, the
interesting thing about that is there are a series of
stories about Puerto Rico and their trash problem, and it
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is a national crisis and everybody in Puerto Rico knows it.
The landfills are overflowing, there are concerns about sinking in
certain places. It's a legitimate, real issue, like the heat
in Texas or Arizona. It's real. But the Democrats were
ready to pounce. It's not working, and in fact, Puerto
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Ricans have said no, no, no, no, no, no, no no,
You're not creating a silly distraction with a roaster. That's
what Kiltny is. He's a roaster. He roast people. You're
so ugly, that you're mama, so fat that nobody is thinking.
Trump said that, so Trump. So then Biden responds with
the only garbage is Trump supporters. That's the cardinal sin.
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Never insult a candidate's supporters. You can insult him, not
his supporter. Coming up next. Yesterday in the evening, I
played well yesterday I talked about white churches, white pastors
needing to speak up and speak out. We've got one
coming up that a listener sent to us that I
think you're gonna like.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
Everyone thinking they could actually live the American truth. The
Michael Berry Show.
Speaker 9 (18:48):
Far higher quality than Crooked Joe or Lion.
Speaker 6 (18:51):
Comeran Bible says you are not garbage. You are a
child of God, which got me yesterday early voting in
Texas through Friday, you left to check outside of Texas
where you are. But today and tomorrow the last days
in Texas, this being Thursday, October thirty. First for those
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of you listening live, which means by tomorrow you have
to vote early or you have to wait until Tuesday.
And God help you if you do, because that's the
day when all the Shenanigans, that's the day of the
big crowd. That's if you put it off till then,
and you have a problem, that's your business. Just don't
email me about it. I begged you to vote early.
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I begged you to vote early. Deer hunters, you're going
to leave on Saturday and be gone on your hunt
and forget to vote. Vote early. I talked about the
fact that this Sunday will be the last chance for
the church, for the pastors to talk to their flock
about the importance of this. And I talked about the
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fact that Black churches have a Soul's to the polls.
Used to be a pastor named Manson Johnson and Houston,
and he would do what they call the roll to
the polls. He would preach his sermon finish early. You
would go out to the bus buses that were waiting.
They would roll you to the polls early voting, last
Sunday of early voting. They rolled you to the pole.
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You would cast your vote and come back and there
was a big meal that the church provided for you afterwards.
Everybody in the church voted. And oh, by the way,
what pastor Manson Johnson would do, which I don't think
violates the law, by the way, is he had what
was known as a pony that is a list that
tells you how to vote, and they he would walk
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down down the list. He'd walk down the road and
give people that was the these are your recommended candidates.
I know this because I was a candidate, and I
know this because he had endorsed my opponent. So we
would walk behind him and pick those up and give
them my note. And he didn't feel comfortable taken away
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what I gave them. But I know what happens, and
I said, white pastors won't do that. White pastors are
scared so demand of your pastor that they speak on
the issues of the day. So I received from you
a number of folks, one called Cornerstone Chapel. But one
of the guys I heard about, or one of the
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sermons that was sent to me, was by a pastor
at First Odessa in Odessa, Texas. And here's just a
little clip of that.
Speaker 7 (21:29):
If we want to stand for morality, we want to
stand for godliness, and we want to see some good
things happen in America. If Christians do not vote, you
can hang it up because it ain't going to happen.
It happens because people will go to that election box.
So we have two people to choose from. And I
want to say this, there should be no confusion whatsoever
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really about who to vote for.
Speaker 6 (21:52):
And in fact, I will tell you.
Speaker 7 (21:53):
And by the time I finished this message, I think
you will understand it very clearly that this should be
the easiest, most clear cut decision on who to vote
for that we've been handed down to us in a generation.
In fact, I call it a no brainer because these
two parties, who I've mentioned a moment ago, are not
morally equal. They are not morally equal. What we have
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witness come forth from the Democrat Party is far more
than changing morals. It is demonic. It is anti God
through and through, and thus evil and demonic.
Speaker 6 (22:29):
They promote everything.
Speaker 7 (22:31):
That God hates. If you do not believe in child sacrifice,
then this election is a no brainer. If you do
not believe in the undermining of the family, the election
is a no brainer. If you believe that the Bible
teaches that there are only two genders, male and female,
it's a no brainer. If you believe that the brainwashing,
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sexualization and mutilation of our children is wrong, it's a
no brainer. Democrat Party is anti God and stands for
all that God hates, and it's a no brainer.
Speaker 8 (23:05):
You say, pastor prove that.
Speaker 7 (23:07):
I can prove that because Kamala Harris proved that had
her own rally when someone shouted Jesus's Lord at her
own rally. She stopped intentionally and said, you're at the
wrong rally with a laugh. There's no joke in that.
You don't laugh when somebody says Jesus is Lord, and
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you don't scorn when somebody says Jesus's Lord. That fact
alone should make the skin crawl on every Bible believing
Christian in America. Right there, it's a no brainer.
Speaker 6 (23:42):
So a listener sent me that and said, you need
to listen to this guy. Didn't give me the name.
I clicked on it last night. I went home and
I start listening to his sermon. It is hour and
forty minutes, I say, so I skipped ahead, and I said,
let me just let me just to the meat of this.
So let's say forty five minutes in. I start listening
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and there's something about this guy's delivery. It feels like
mother's milk to me.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
It's very comfortable to me.
Speaker 6 (24:11):
And then he said growing up in Woodville, Texas, in
Southeast Texas, deep East Texas. Man, did I light up?
Because there's only three reasons that Woodville, Texas exists. These
are my people. Number one is to send Kim Cruise
to the voice a little girl that could sing her
heart out ar at Seeburger's niece. Number two is to
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provide delicious food at the Picket House, and number three
is to get their assess whipped by Orangefield High School.
These are my people, Woodville is my people. So interesting
thing when you go to the website for the church,
when you go on the YouTube page. Unlike some folks
that you know in public, this wasn't the Byron McWilliams show.
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In fact, I wait, I did search to find out
the pastor's name. There's a church in town at the
motto used to friends. Pastor's friend of mine. But we
used to kid with him because the motto was where
Christ is the main attraction. And I used to say, yeah,
but pastor, your name's bigger than his on the program.
This guy's not about Byron McWilliams. This guy's about the word.
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And I can guarantee you he loses some members out
of saying that. But he's not looking at him as consumers.
He's actually ministering pastoring to his flock, and I love it.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
He's our guest coming up.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
What you have got?
Speaker 6 (25:33):
Allow me to introduce myself.
Speaker 8 (25:35):
My name is Mitch Michael Berry, Genius ibbage man.
Speaker 4 (25:42):
You can I do it? Can you got the garbage man?
Speaker 6 (25:47):
Well? Pastor Byron McWilliams is my kind of guy. A
listener was kind enough to say, hey, here's a pastor
who will speak out. Here's a sermon where he does
it much in the of my dear friend, Pastor Ed Young,
who recently retired from Second Baptist Church where he helmed
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the ship for many, many years. Byron McWilliams, in my opinion,
is living up to God's commandment to priests the Word.
And you know, I've heard churches refer to congregants as customers.
I find that very disturbing. I think they've lost the plot.
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So I love the fact that I had to go
looking for who he is, which means that his name's
not the biggest one on the marquee. It's almost as
if the Bible and the Word and salvation and the
sinners seeking salvation are the primary objective. But let's welcome
him to the show. Pastor Byron McWilliams.
Speaker 8 (26:51):
Welcome, Hey, Michael Barry. How are you doing, sir?
Speaker 6 (26:55):
I'm good so I know you're from Woodville. Let's talk
about that for a moment. How old were you. You.
You pastored two churches in southeast Texas. One was first
Baptist Church of Buna. We'll get to that in a moment,
but it was the first one in Woodville.
Speaker 8 (27:12):
No, the first one in Sperger.
Speaker 6 (27:14):
Okay, where that is?
Speaker 4 (27:16):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (27:18):
Yeah, Now, so take me.
Speaker 8 (27:21):
I grew up Woodville, and I agree.
Speaker 6 (27:23):
Take me through high school and then and and how
you end up in your first job in the ministry.
Speaker 8 (27:29):
Okay, all right, that's a good idea. I did not
actually graduate from Woodville. I moved away to the middle
of my junior year in high school. Unfortunately, we had
a tragedy in our family, and so that's why we
moved to Houston. And uh, but I grew up in Woodville.
All of my greatest growing up memories are in Woodville.
Speaker 7 (27:46):
Uh.
Speaker 8 (27:47):
But in middle of my junior we left. I went
to Spring High School. Uh. The best thing about Spring
High School was the end of my senior year I
met my what who would be my one day wife?
And uh, absolutely the best thing. Uh graduate your wife,
you met her?
Speaker 6 (28:03):
No, I'm glad you clarified that, pastor, because I was
a little confused.
Speaker 8 (28:06):
Yeah, I want to do that's right, That's right. Graduated.
Man work my way through college at the University of
Houston and got a degree in accounting. I was in sales,
and then after that I went to work for a
large old company show oil company in Houston, and I
worked there for a number of years. Felt a call
to ministry. I was going to Champion Forest Baptist Church
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in Houston at the time, and man felt a call
to ministry and it was undeniable, and so slowly began
to pursue that. As God led and one thing led
to another, I had to do all the education thing
and all that went with that. And then one thing
led to another, and we go to our first church
in April nineteen ninety seven, and that would be first
Baptist Church in Spurger, which nobody in West Texas, no
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where Spurger is so and that one.
Speaker 6 (28:52):
Year did you feel your call to the ministry?
Speaker 8 (28:56):
Oh? I was thirty one years old, so that would
have been in nineteen ninety four.
Speaker 6 (29:03):
Okay, Now did you not seminary from there or what
did you begin to do at that point?
Speaker 8 (29:07):
I did?
Speaker 5 (29:08):
I did.
Speaker 8 (29:08):
I began at the Houston campus of Southwestern Baptist Theological
Seminary and uh and it did all of my Masters
of Divinity work there and uh, then from there after
I after I came to Odessa. Actually I had to
sit because of accreditation and whatnot. You have to wait
three years before you in our doctoral program, and I
did that and then started my doctoral work when I
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got to Odessa and was able to knock that out.
Speaker 6 (29:36):
So how long were you in Sperger?
Speaker 8 (29:40):
Three years and nine months?
Speaker 6 (29:42):
And then first Baptist Church of Buna. So you're getting
back closer to Woodville at that point.
Speaker 8 (29:48):
Yeah, and then it was actually closer to Woodville.
Speaker 6 (29:51):
Oh is it really okay? But yeah, I've never been
to Sperger. I didn't know Elsberger. We played Sburger much
like what though. We whipped Burger in pretty much everything
we ever competed against it.
Speaker 8 (30:00):
And then I had no doubt.
Speaker 6 (30:04):
And then Buna. And how long were you at first
Baptist Church of Bunah.
Speaker 8 (30:09):
Just a little over three years and wonderful ministry. Loved
those people over in Southeast Texas. Man, but God was
very clear when he called us out to West Texas.
And it was a major transition. I mean, moving from
Southeast Texas where all of my roots are there, all
my family are there and packing my wife and I
kind of felt like, man, we're headed to the mission field.
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We're moving that far away. But man, a lot of great,
great people in West Texas.
Speaker 6 (30:35):
And I got to tell you, I didn't have almost
two hours because it was when I got home last
night to listen to the whole sermon. But I wanted
to see what it was about, because this listener was
so keen of this is a guy doing what you
claim you want people to do. And I said, all right,
I'm gonna fast forward on this. And where I landed.
It's almost as if God intended this where I landed.
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You were you Within three seconds you mentioned Woodville and
you talked about your mother wearing gloves up to her
elbows and that that was church. And you start talking
about your church experience was very similar to mine at
Old First Orange in Orange off of Iten just before
you get to sixty two on your way to Louisiana.
If you headed eas it's still there, just off the highway,
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and it Boy. Your storytelling, I was going to listen
to about three minutes and I ended up listening for
about twenty and your storytelling, it just felt very comforting
to me. You know, this was a similar shared experience,
and I loved the sense of conviction and fearlessness, fearlessness
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with which you delivered God's word. And I thought, man,
that is a man.
Speaker 2 (31:46):
That Wow, that is.
Speaker 6 (31:48):
A servant's heart, that level of fearlessness really, and that's
when I reached out to you. How big is that church? First, Odessa,
it looked like a big church.
Speaker 8 (31:59):
Yeah, we're we are a large church. We've got, you know,
a couple thousand members. But I mean, you know, of course,
you know how that works. Everybody doesn't come to church,
you know what I'm saying. But it's still a good
sized church. I mean, you know, and uh uh oh,
we have a television ministry and everything like that in
the area that's been here for a long time. And
so God is blessed from that.
Speaker 6 (32:21):
All right, hold with me for just a moment. I
want to talk about, Okay, why you do what you do?
Why why you particularly took that on. Because you can
preach health and wellness and prosperity, health and wealth every
Sunday and never upset anybody. But that's not your job
is to discomfort the comfortable and disrupt the bad habits.
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We get into and the fact that you do that
is very interesting to me, Pastor Byron Williams of First Odessa,
but more importantly from Woodville, Texas, from Moment Make Normalcy,
you and I need to take a triple over the
Picket House that just needs to happ
It's that time, time, time, time, luck and load.
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Little Merle Haggard, little patriotism. It's a good times. It's
a good times. Crockett now went to the Texans game
on Sunday. Texans had some rough years along the way
twenty eleven, twelve, thirteen. Right in there, there were some
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there were some good teams, but this was a startup franchise.
When Bob McNair brought the franchise back to or brought
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oilers anymore. They were rough years, and for folks that
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It was difficult, you know. We we had some some
folks that stole our hearts with the Astros, but we
couldn't win a championship and you got seven straight years
of amazing teams. It's just a better feeling when you're winning.
It's a good feeling in America. The right people are
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unhappy and the right people are delighted, and that's just
it's a state of army. It's a state of balance
and goodness. It's felt like we were losing for so
long that finally we get to it feels like we
get a victory out of this now. I know a
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number of people think that we should not say that
the polls reflect Trump is winning. I understand that is
an opinion of certain people. And let me explain to
you what's going on here. There is a psychology that
you might not buy into, you might not suffer from,
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and you certainly don't understand people like to support a winner.
This transcends politics. This is throughout history, the appearance of
success engenders success. This is why con men and scam
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artists always wear big, bulky expensive watches and drive a
Lamborghini or a Rolls Royce and wear three thousand dollars
suits when they can't pay their bills, because if other
people think they're successful, then they'll give them their money.
When people feel like there is success, they want to
be part of that success. This isn't hype. There is success.
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The pole numbers really say that. And the reason we're
trumpeting those pole numbers is because our side has stayed home.
And part of what's kept our side staying home, and
this is by design, is the abiding belief that due
to fraud, you can't win, you're powerless. And this is
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a deep psychological mind hump. I'll say it's not the
word I want to use. This is a deep psychological
mind hump where a lot of America can believe that
the powers that be are so strong that we can't
possibly overcome them. The cheat will be so great that
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I don't need to vote anyway. A lot of people
have resigned themselves because the loss of agency, the loss
of self control and self determination is so debilitating, so depressing,
that what people have done to take back control of
their lives is they have aggressively, actively, openly vocally checked out.
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I don't care about this country. I don't care what happens.
I'm not part of it. I'm refusing to vote. You
can't make me care. It's the person that's been burned
in love so much that they simply won't date again.
You're not going to break my heart. That's what we
have a number of people in this country suffering from.
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But you can convince them that if every one of
you would give it your best effort, we can win.
It's possible. We're doing it. We're showing our so folks
are very upset. They don't want you telling that the
poll numbers are strong in every single battleground state. Don't
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do that, or the Democrats will cheap. Democrats are gonna
cheat no matter what. Don't do that, because then our
people won't show up. Nothing will make our people show
up more than believing we're gonna win. Let me give
you an example. You ever noticed how many New England
Patriots jerseys used to see in Houston when the Patriots
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were winning the championships. You ever notice that where were
those Patriots fans? Some of them are like, hey, weren't
you born in Crosby. Hadn't you lived here in your
whole life? Why are you were in a Patriots jersey?
Speaker 4 (07:56):
Wow?
Speaker 7 (07:56):
Right?
Speaker 6 (07:57):
Love Patriots? Really? How far back Tony Easton? What Ron Meyer?
Who was your your Patriot hero? Craig James? Nobody likes
Craig James. I just really like him. No, you liked it.
They win the super Bowl. So when you wear the jersey,
who oh, he must be he's got a winner. People
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like a winner. You saw Steelers jerseys here for a
few years. It's why the Yankees for so long? Had
people loved the Yankees. We're gonna win this thing. I
can't promise you we're gonna win Harris County, but I
can tell you we're in snipping distance. Well, Michael, there
is gonna cheat. Damn it, Shut that up.
Speaker 4 (08:39):
I got it.
Speaker 6 (08:39):
They're gonna cheat. Are you gonna try to win or not?
Because we can win this thing. We're gonna win Texas.
We're gonna win the White House.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
At Joe, can here come the garbage man?
Speaker 8 (09:25):
Yo?
Speaker 4 (09:26):
You're that Joe?
Speaker 1 (09:27):
Can here come the garbage man? Hey? Get out, Joe?
Can you come the garbage man yet? Garbage man?
Speaker 5 (09:38):
And I have to begin by saying two hundred and
fifty million Americans are not garbage. This week, Kamala has
been comparing her political opponents to the most evil mass
murderers in history, and now, speaking on a call for
her campaign last night, Crooked Joe Biden finally.
Speaker 9 (09:59):
Said what he and Kamala really think of our supporters.
He called them garbage. No way, My supporters are far
higher quality than Crooked Joe or Lion Kamala.
Speaker 4 (10:15):
Higher quality, got Joe? Can you come the garbage man?
You you're at you? Can you come the garbage man?
Speaker 1 (10:28):
You're after your cane, your your garbage man.
Speaker 4 (10:35):
Kamala, Joe.
Speaker 5 (10:37):
Call all of us and them, even them, garbage.
Speaker 9 (10:41):
I call you the heart and soul of America. You
are the heart and soul.
Speaker 5 (10:47):
You built our country.
Speaker 9 (10:49):
You built it far more than they built it. I
can tell you that you built it.
Speaker 7 (10:54):
After.
Speaker 4 (10:54):
Can you come the garbage man?
Speaker 1 (11:00):
I too?
Speaker 4 (11:00):
Can here come the garbage man?
Speaker 1 (11:06):
Get out too? Can here come the garbage man?
Speaker 6 (11:44):
Here's how it happened. Trump advisor Jason Miller says, the vest,
the garbage truck, all of it. Trump's idea and thanks
to supporters in Wisconsin. They were able in a short
period of time to turn it around and there was
Trump in the garbage truck. Oh my goodness, Jason Miller
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with the story.
Speaker 4 (12:08):
Please whose idea was the best?
Speaker 6 (12:12):
And the truck? And how'd you get it wrapped so fast?
Come on?
Speaker 2 (12:15):
Tell us.
Speaker 10 (12:15):
Well, can't give all the details, but of course it
was President Trump's ideas, and we have some great supporters
in Wisconsin.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
That's all I can say right now.
Speaker 10 (12:22):
But Laura, I think the panel is really on top
of this because it's not just what President Trump is
saying he's going to fix the economy and secure the border,
but it's who he's saying it to, which is all Americans.
That is such a contrast to Kamala Harris running this
campaign of hate and division. Is we get down to
next Tuesdays, Americans, the few undecideds that are left, or
people say well maybe I'm leaning Trump, but I don't
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know if I know, show up and vote. They see
these images, they see that he's taking it serious. They
also see that they've been personally offended by Kamala Harrison
Joe Biden calling them garbage, that they want to get
out there and vote for President Trump. Also the other thing, Laura,
you look at this schedule the next days. We're gonna
be making a stop in New Mexico tomorrow along with
Las Vegas and Phoenix, then also going to Virginia this weekend.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
There are states that are still in play for.
Speaker 10 (13:10):
President Trump where you don't see Kamala Harris on offense anywhere.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
That is a major distinction.
Speaker 10 (13:15):
Final thing I'll mention, Laura, also got to make sure
they give a lot of credit to Chairman Michael Wattley
at the r and C and Laara Trump, the co
chair what they are doing with the election integrity effort.
They are going to make sure that this election is secure.
They've already filed some one hundred and thirty lawsuits, the
big huge wins that you talked about earlier with regard
to the Supreme Court, with regard to Virginia, also with
keeping the polls open in Bucks County.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
We are not going to not gonna be caught asleep
this time.
Speaker 10 (13:40):
They have over a quarter million volunteers ready to go
to keep our election secure.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
A lot of credit goes to Mike Watley and Lara Trump.
Speaker 10 (13:47):
Where President Trump has the right message, good political team,
and We're going to make sure that every single person
gets the opportunity to vote, but just once.
Speaker 6 (13:58):
So what's amazing here.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
Is that one major misstep.
Speaker 6 (14:11):
Could have cost this election. Still could. But the later
it goes, the harder it is, the further you fall behind.
If you're the Harris campaign, the more dramatic the difference,
the marginal difference between you and Trump, has to be
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in a shorter period of time to make up. When
you're trailing late and the clock is ticking, it becomes
harder and harder. So whatever big surprise you want to dump,
instead of you now needing to win fifty two forty
eight for the remaining voters, you've got to win sixty
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three thirty seven make up the difference. You've also had
a lot of people vote early and granted a lot
of them by every measure of Republicans, and that puts
you in a situation where you've got more Democrats available
to vote. Our people have shown up to vote, They're
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continuing to show up. Got a little rain in Houston today,
but I'm getting reports at polling locations that voting voter
turnout is strong. We're also hearing across the country that
black turnout is down. Blacks are not excited about Kamala.
Reliably Democrat blacks are not excited about Kamala. And we're
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seeing blacks showing up who are saying they're voting for
Trump in numbers that can't be ignored. There is a
transformation occurring. Illegal immigration has managed to penetrate the black
community in this country, the inner city black community, and
they see in the cost in Illinois where the budget
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is now being devoted at the state and in a
city of Chicago to handling the basic needs of illegal aliens,
which has overwhelmed their budget, and that means there's nothing
left for the taxpayers and the people who live there.
It is dramatic, but what we're seeing is win after
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win after win after win after win, and when there
appeared to be a stumble with the with the pile
of garbage Puerto Rico joke, when there appeared to be
a stumble, the recovery was dramatic. Now I can't remember
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if it was this show or the Evening show that
that I told this story on, but you have to
understand where the where the Tony Hinchcliff killed. Tony is
is the name he goes by for his for his podcast.
You have to understand that the basis of that joke.
The joke was there's a floating pile of garbage. And
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then he said, well, that's actually Puerto Rico. He didn't
say that's Puerto Ricans, that is the country. Well, the
interesting thing about that is there are a series of
stories about Puerto Rico and their trash problem, and it
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is a national crisis and everybody in Puerto Rico knows it.
The landfills are overflowing, there are concerns about sinking in
certain places. It's a legitimate, real issue, like the heat
in Texas or Arizona. It's real. But the Democrats were
ready to pounce. It's not working, and in fact, Puerto
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Ricans have said no, no, no, no, no, no, no no,
You're not creating a silly distraction with a roaster. That's
what Kiltny is. He's a roaster. He roast people. You're
so ugly, that you're mama, so fat that nobody is thinking.
Trump said that, so Trump. So then Biden responds with
the only garbage is Trump supporters. That's the cardinal sin.
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Never insult a candidate's supporters. You can insult him, not
his supporter. Coming up next. Yesterday in the evening, I
played well yesterday I talked about white churches, white pastors
needing to speak up and speak out. We've got one
coming up that a listener sent to us that I
think you're gonna like.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
Everyone thinking they could actually live the American truth. The
Michael Berry Show.
Speaker 9 (18:48):
Far higher quality than Crooked Joe or Lion.
Speaker 6 (18:51):
Comeran Bible says you are not garbage. You are a
child of God, which got me yesterday early voting in
Texas through Friday, you left to check outside of Texas
where you are. But today and tomorrow the last days
in Texas, this being Thursday, October thirty. First for those
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of you listening live, which means by tomorrow you have
to vote early or you have to wait until Tuesday.
And God help you if you do, because that's the
day when all the Shenanigans, that's the day of the
big crowd. That's if you put it off till then,
and you have a problem, that's your business. Just don't
email me about it. I begged you to vote early.
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I begged you to vote early. Deer hunters, you're going
to leave on Saturday and be gone on your hunt
and forget to vote. Vote early. I talked about the
fact that this Sunday will be the last chance for
the church, for the pastors to talk to their flock
about the importance of this. And I talked about the
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fact that Black churches have a Soul's to the polls.
Used to be a pastor named Manson Johnson and Houston,
and he would do what they call the roll to
the polls. He would preach his sermon finish early. You
would go out to the bus buses that were waiting.
They would roll you to the polls early voting, last
Sunday of early voting. They rolled you to the pole.
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You would cast your vote and come back and there
was a big meal that the church provided for you afterwards.
Everybody in the church voted. And oh, by the way,
what pastor Manson Johnson would do, which I don't think
violates the law, by the way, is he had what
was known as a pony that is a list that
tells you how to vote, and they he would walk
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down down the list. He'd walk down the road and
give people that was the these are your recommended candidates.
I know this because I was a candidate, and I
know this because he had endorsed my opponent. So we
would walk behind him and pick those up and give
them my note. And he didn't feel comfortable taken away
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what I gave them. But I know what happens, and
I said, white pastors won't do that. White pastors are
scared so demand of your pastor that they speak on
the issues of the day. So I received from you
a number of folks, one called Cornerstone Chapel. But one
of the guys I heard about, or one of the
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sermons that was sent to me, was by a pastor
at First Odessa in Odessa, Texas. And here's just a
little clip of that.
Speaker 7 (21:29):
If we want to stand for morality, we want to
stand for godliness, and we want to see some good
things happen in America. If Christians do not vote, you
can hang it up because it ain't going to happen.
It happens because people will go to that election box.
So we have two people to choose from. And I
want to say this, there should be no confusion whatsoever
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really about who to vote for.
Speaker 6 (21:52):
And in fact, I will tell you.
Speaker 7 (21:53):
And by the time I finished this message, I think
you will understand it very clearly that this should be
the easiest, most clear cut decision on who to vote
for that we've been handed down to us in a generation.
In fact, I call it a no brainer because these
two parties, who I've mentioned a moment ago, are not
morally equal. They are not morally equal. What we have
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witness come forth from the Democrat Party is far more
than changing morals. It is demonic. It is anti God
through and through, and thus evil and demonic.
Speaker 6 (22:29):
They promote everything.
Speaker 7 (22:31):
That God hates. If you do not believe in child sacrifice,
then this election is a no brainer. If you do
not believe in the undermining of the family, the election
is a no brainer. If you believe that the Bible
teaches that there are only two genders, male and female,
it's a no brainer. If you believe that the brainwashing,
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sexualization and mutilation of our children is wrong, it's a
no brainer. Democrat Party is anti God and stands for
all that God hates, and it's a no brainer.
Speaker 8 (23:05):
You say, pastor prove that.
Speaker 7 (23:07):
I can prove that because Kamala Harris proved that had
her own rally when someone shouted Jesus's Lord at her
own rally. She stopped intentionally and said, you're at the
wrong rally with a laugh. There's no joke in that.
You don't laugh when somebody says Jesus is Lord, and
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you don't scorn when somebody says Jesus's Lord. That fact
alone should make the skin crawl on every Bible believing
Christian in America. Right there, it's a no brainer.
Speaker 6 (23:42):
So a listener sent me that and said, you need
to listen to this guy. Didn't give me the name.
I clicked on it last night. I went home and
I start listening to his sermon. It is hour and
forty minutes, I say, so I skipped ahead, and I said,
let me just let me just to the meat of this.
So let's say forty five minutes in. I start listening
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and there's something about this guy's delivery. It feels like
mother's milk to me.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
It's very comfortable to me.
Speaker 6 (24:11):
And then he said growing up in Woodville, Texas, in
Southeast Texas, deep East Texas. Man, did I light up?
Because there's only three reasons that Woodville, Texas exists. These
are my people. Number one is to send Kim Cruise
to the voice a little girl that could sing her
heart out ar at Seeburger's niece. Number two is to
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provide delicious food at the Picket House, and number three
is to get their assess whipped by Orangefield High School.
These are my people, Woodville is my people. So interesting
thing when you go to the website for the church,
when you go on the YouTube page. Unlike some folks
that you know in public, this wasn't the Byron McWilliams show.
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In fact, I wait, I did search to find out
the pastor's name. There's a church in town at the
motto used to friends. Pastor's friend of mine. But we
used to kid with him because the motto was where
Christ is the main attraction. And I used to say, yeah,
but pastor, your name's bigger than his on the program.
This guy's not about Byron McWilliams. This guy's about the word.
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And I can guarantee you he loses some members out
of saying that. But he's not looking at him as consumers.
He's actually ministering pastoring to his flock, and I love it.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
He's our guest coming up.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
What you have got?
Speaker 6 (25:33):
Allow me to introduce myself.
Speaker 8 (25:35):
My name is Mitch Michael Berry, Genius ibbage man.
Speaker 4 (25:42):
You can I do it? Can you got the garbage man?
Speaker 6 (25:47):
Well? Pastor Byron McWilliams is my kind of guy. A
listener was kind enough to say, hey, here's a pastor
who will speak out. Here's a sermon where he does
it much in the of my dear friend, Pastor Ed Young,
who recently retired from Second Baptist Church where he helmed
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the ship for many, many years. Byron McWilliams, in my opinion,
is living up to God's commandment to priests the Word.
And you know, I've heard churches refer to congregants as customers.
I find that very disturbing. I think they've lost the plot.
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So I love the fact that I had to go
looking for who he is, which means that his name's
not the biggest one on the marquee. It's almost as
if the Bible and the Word and salvation and the
sinners seeking salvation are the primary objective. But let's welcome
him to the show. Pastor Byron McWilliams.
Speaker 8 (26:51):
Welcome, Hey, Michael Barry. How are you doing, sir?
Speaker 6 (26:55):
I'm good so I know you're from Woodville. Let's talk
about that for a moment. How old were you. You.
You pastored two churches in southeast Texas. One was first
Baptist Church of Buna. We'll get to that in a moment,
but it was the first one in Woodville.
Speaker 8 (27:12):
No, the first one in Sperger.
Speaker 6 (27:14):
Okay, where that is?
Speaker 4 (27:16):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (27:18):
Yeah, Now, so take me.
Speaker 8 (27:21):
I grew up Woodville, and I agree.
Speaker 6 (27:23):
Take me through high school and then and and how
you end up in your first job in the ministry.
Speaker 8 (27:29):
Okay, all right, that's a good idea. I did not
actually graduate from Woodville. I moved away to the middle
of my junior year in high school. Unfortunately, we had
a tragedy in our family, and so that's why we
moved to Houston. And uh, but I grew up in Woodville.
All of my greatest growing up memories are in Woodville.
Speaker 7 (27:46):
Uh.
Speaker 8 (27:47):
But in middle of my junior we left. I went
to Spring High School. Uh. The best thing about Spring
High School was the end of my senior year I
met my what who would be my one day wife?
And uh, absolutely the best thing. Uh graduate your wife,
you met her?
Speaker 6 (28:03):
No, I'm glad you clarified that, pastor, because I was
a little confused.
Speaker 8 (28:06):
Yeah, I want to do that's right, That's right. Graduated.
Man work my way through college at the University of
Houston and got a degree in accounting. I was in sales,
and then after that I went to work for a
large old company show oil company in Houston, and I
worked there for a number of years. Felt a call
to ministry. I was going to Champion Forest Baptist Church
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in Houston at the time, and man felt a call
to ministry and it was undeniable, and so slowly began
to pursue that. As God led and one thing led
to another, I had to do all the education thing
and all that went with that. And then one thing
led to another, and we go to our first church
in April nineteen ninety seven, and that would be first
Baptist Church in Spurger, which nobody in West Texas, no
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where Spurger is so and that one.
Speaker 6 (28:52):
Year did you feel your call to the ministry?
Speaker 8 (28:56):
Oh? I was thirty one years old, so that would
have been in nineteen ninety four.
Speaker 6 (29:03):
Okay, Now did you not seminary from there or what
did you begin to do at that point?
Speaker 8 (29:07):
I did?
Speaker 5 (29:08):
I did.
Speaker 8 (29:08):
I began at the Houston campus of Southwestern Baptist Theological
Seminary and uh and it did all of my Masters
of Divinity work there and uh, then from there after
I after I came to Odessa. Actually I had to
sit because of accreditation and whatnot. You have to wait
three years before you in our doctoral program, and I
did that and then started my doctoral work when I
(29:31):
got to Odessa and was able to knock that out.
Speaker 6 (29:36):
So how long were you in Sperger?
Speaker 8 (29:40):
Three years and nine months?
Speaker 6 (29:42):
And then first Baptist Church of Buna. So you're getting
back closer to Woodville at that point.
Speaker 8 (29:48):
Yeah, and then it was actually closer to Woodville.
Speaker 6 (29:51):
Oh is it really okay? But yeah, I've never been
to Sperger. I didn't know Elsberger. We played Sburger much
like what though. We whipped Burger in pretty much everything
we ever competed against it.
Speaker 8 (30:00):
And then I had no doubt.
Speaker 6 (30:04):
And then Buna. And how long were you at first
Baptist Church of Bunah.
Speaker 8 (30:09):
Just a little over three years and wonderful ministry. Loved
those people over in Southeast Texas. Man, but God was
very clear when he called us out to West Texas.
And it was a major transition. I mean, moving from
Southeast Texas where all of my roots are there, all
my family are there and packing my wife and I
kind of felt like, man, we're headed to the mission field.
(30:30):
We're moving that far away. But man, a lot of great,
great people in West Texas.
Speaker 6 (30:35):
And I got to tell you, I didn't have almost
two hours because it was when I got home last
night to listen to the whole sermon. But I wanted
to see what it was about, because this listener was
so keen of this is a guy doing what you
claim you want people to do. And I said, all right,
I'm gonna fast forward on this. And where I landed.
It's almost as if God intended this where I landed.
(30:56):
You were you Within three seconds you mentioned Woodville and
you talked about your mother wearing gloves up to her
elbows and that that was church. And you start talking
about your church experience was very similar to mine at
Old First Orange in Orange off of Iten just before
you get to sixty two on your way to Louisiana.
If you headed eas it's still there, just off the highway,
(31:19):
and it Boy. Your storytelling, I was going to listen
to about three minutes and I ended up listening for
about twenty and your storytelling, it just felt very comforting
to me. You know, this was a similar shared experience,
and I loved the sense of conviction and fearlessness, fearlessness
(31:40):
with which you delivered God's word. And I thought, man,
that is a man.
Speaker 2 (31:46):
That Wow, that is.
Speaker 6 (31:48):
A servant's heart, that level of fearlessness really, and that's
when I reached out to you. How big is that church? First, Odessa,
it looked like a big church.
Speaker 8 (31:59):
Yeah, we're we are a large church. We've got, you know,
a couple thousand members. But I mean, you know, of course,
you know how that works. Everybody doesn't come to church,
you know what I'm saying. But it's still a good
sized church. I mean, you know, and uh uh oh,
we have a television ministry and everything like that in
the area that's been here for a long time. And
so God is blessed from that.
Speaker 6 (32:21):
All right, hold with me for just a moment. I
want to talk about, Okay, why you do what you do?
Why why you particularly took that on. Because you can
preach health and wellness and prosperity, health and wealth every
Sunday and never upset anybody. But that's not your job
is to discomfort the comfortable and disrupt the bad habits.
(32:44):
We get into and the fact that you do that
is very interesting to me, Pastor Byron Williams of First Odessa,
but more importantly from Woodville, Texas, from Moment Make Normalcy,
you and I need to take a triple over the
Picket House that just needs to happ
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